that's it for us thanks for being with us. coming up tomorrow, formerious chief of staff john sununu will be talking about the current white house. please be with us. thanks for being with us tonight, good night from new york. . >> they were expected to uphold the rules that keep soccer honest, and to protect the integrity of the game. instead they corrupted the business of worldwide soccer to serve their interests and to enrich themselves. neil: what the fifa? now soccer is getting kicked in the balls? only a couple of weeks after deflated balls and more than a couple of years going through disappointing ballplayers? i want you to name a sport any sport and i dare to you find one that has not been singed by scandal. okay roller derby. beside that, what i heard this morning that top officials at soccer's governing body of fifa were fingered for foul play, let's say familiar tune,

something about payoffs and bribes involving countries pulling out all the sleazy stops to host world cup events. now is it up to the sleazier standard of domestic violence embroiled professional football with the likes of ray rice or ray mcdonald or adrian peterson? no. is it in the league of penn state's jerry sandusky child abuse scandal? no! or the drug scandal that bedevilled baseball and more than a dozen players over the years? no or the lance armstrong doping drama that socked professional cycling? no. is it any less a black eye part of a losing litany of bigtime players in sports organizations letting fans down bigtime. particularly young fans our kids who hold so many of the stars and organizations that support them to near idol status. who explains the constant cheating and game rigging and the avalanche of athletes who

don't care about the impression they make as much as the money they make. some of the guys are getting worse than tv anchors. that is why we're opening up with this growing appearance of impropriety across many sports. let me be clear, i don't want a few bad apples to destroy the professional sports cards in soccer as in football as in baseball as in cycling these are the exceptions but practically screaming to our kids, go ahead and break the rules. all right, to sportscaster extraordinaire jim gray what he makes of this. jim, on and on many summed it up best the producer i spoke to this morning are we that surprised with soccer? what do you think? >> i'm not surprised at all. i think that perhaps ping-pong and badminton are clean nobody is paying attention to them. it's not surprising at all, this has been not only resumeored and suggested for years and years and years across the world with soccer,

but there's been one scandal after another where they've been able to point to it, and now the head of the soccer fifa comes out and says he welcomes it. you wonder what it is he's welcoming. if he's unaware which cannot be the case of all of this going on for years and now he's welcoming these investigations and the indictments, you wonder what's going to end up? neil: what is the allegation when it came to the countries that got host or won hosting rights to future world cups, in the case of qatar or russia, that they did shelter nefarious means or update me on what happened? >> buying votes. money in return for votes to go countries and places that were not and uniquely, in the best circumstance uniquely qualified to be holding these type of events. look what they're doing in qatar? the building of all of these

stadiums, the massive amounts spent when can you go to other places, the united states was in the running for that. where all of these facilities are in play. obviously, there has to be some improvements and brought up to speed and up to date but it's massive corruption in the buying of votes and rampant, and it's been a long litany detailed lit aerngs neil, just where the votes have been bought and purchased and the corruption of it all. neil: i know these are all different cases different sports, different circumstances but a rather consistent overall theme trust placed in a sport that's broken down, europe more on top of what happened in soccer than what i'll ever be there were rumored for this quite sometime. having said all this on the heels of the scandals and improprieties i talked about, what is to stop our kids from thinking, the whole world is rigged. >> well i don't know, but i want to go back to one other

thing that you said, let's not let the very few ruin it for the very many. yes, where there is obscene amounts of money available there will be people who will take advantage and cheat the system and gain the system. be it the athlete, the owners be the officials, be it the countries the institutions that oversee them when there's this much money on the line, you will find people who will cut corners and who will cheat. having said that that doesn't mean lifting one stroke of the brush paints the entire canvas. it's unfair to label all of these people and throw them in the same barrel but the scandals are threatening to undermine these institutions. neil: you're right, you're right. jim always a pleasure, even on the phone. jim gray. famed sportscaster and taking on the guys directly face-to-face. it's not just sports between big banks corporations

and government. does it seem it's more susceptible to corruption to katrina pierson and lizzie mcdonald. everyone seems wicked here? >> you know what it seems with fifa the soccer corruption? it was surprising they stopped it and they stepped up and stopped up. stopped what was going on. in albane it's not like a series of breath taking tedious revelations, and i don't want to sound cynical, and i'm not cynical. you can never legislate out of existence corruption just like you can't install good judgment with 800 pages of say dodd-frank to clean up the banking system when it's asking for more common sense and just to know that if you do anything bad like this, you will always have the asterisk by your name and that's not a good thing. neil: i know money, i'm not naive kevin money plays a key part in the sports, and money can be tempting and pervert

more than a few. when it came to soccer when people brought me up to speed on fifa and organization and how it doles out prizes at world cup and all the rest. could this go back very, very fast. what's to stop anyone from saying any institution that gets too big for britches, it could be banks sports teams organizations you're almost inviting this? >> the government. i think everyone would agree that it really is a beautiful game. but you know -- neil: i don't know about that i think boccie ball has been ignored. >> another debate for another day. i don't think you should pick on somebody just for their size, right? in all of the cases whether it's sports government, banks, which quite frankly are an easy political bogeyman at this point it's more about the culture and takes a leader it doesn't take a politician or

ceo or commissioner of a sports league to enact change, it takes a leader. three years ago almost to the date i was covering the jerry sandusky trial and you see the whistle-blowers, the young people who came forward to take on the perverse institutionalized culture of silence were able to enact change. i think it really starts not necessarily at the top, but also at the bottom with defiant acts of courage, if you will, in order to promote a cultural change, but a perverse culture can exist at an institution of any size. neil: i wonder katrina when i hear stories like this and i hear about young people who don't trust the stock market, don't trust washington don't trust the institution of marriage, i hear all this stuff in the news they've been pelted with, and i wonder if that should be so surprising? >> it's not surprising considering it's all around us. the evidence is there, it's right in front of them, and any time the parent you try to encourage your child to get up and start a business, you look

around and you have government picking winners and losers. very hard today to deal with that. but it does start at the top and does start with politicians because what's happening all over the world with these corruption scandals and taking money this pay to play. you look at washington, d.c., and that's all there is. you have thousands of dollars hidden in freezers. political paybacks to campaign contributions, and this is what people see and learn from. in state legislatures they're cop we hadding washington, d.c. is doing. neil: that's brilliant to take this all to washington. touche there. i will say, lizzie, the only thing i worry about is we send a message win at all costs do, what it takes to win, to secure that bid, to secure that position, you know what i mean? >> yeah, and i hear exactly what you mean. we don't want our teenagers or children to be getting that message. now you know what? so what it's a little caveat to my career if i get caught.

that should not be the message. if you get caught, you are a jerk like the other guys that did the same thing. -- remember when clinton stood up and said the era of big government is over. i said wow a democrat said that. that quickly eroded with decades of government spending and it turned out we had whole towns like san diego called enron by the sea. whole cities corrupt. but i am optimistic, i think it gets cleaned out and that's the message. neil: real quickly kevin, i think we're one step away from the next scandal. i don't know what the sport is what do you think? >> it's cronyism. there is growing consensus, people are sick of the political connections and sick of the cronyism, whether it's in big sports leagues or higher education universities or here in washington. it's cronyism. neil: sick of it but katrina it keeps happening. >> we're going to hear a lot

about it. neil: katrina? >> that's up to us. everyone agrees people are starting to wake up and they're aware and want to stop it. we can end the export-import bank in washington, d.c. which is nothing but cronyism coming out of washington. neil: that is brilliant again one way or the other. thank you all very much. everything that's gone wrong with the world is why i'm working harder next week. i figure if these guys aren't going to take care of it it's up to me. because next monday we'll be moving from 12:00 to 2:00 p.m. eastern time, another hour in my day, as if i need to do this. i'll eat during the show. it's called "cavuto coast-to-coast." tracking the latest breaking stories across the country taking care of those trying to steal your money. joined by general david petraeus former nsa director michael, and john kasich billionaire investor former new mexico governor once

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. neil: so you've got all the banks warning of big trouble

ahead, ben bernanke saying no worries ahead, the former fed head seeing no extreme moves in the market money man jared levy says when authorities tell you to calm down start worrying. i subscribe to the view as well, jared he's not saying things are hunky-dory but enough of this panicking, it's not justified. i hear that kind of talk we were racing to new highs before the meltdown in real estate was a no-brainer, what do you make of what he's saying sdmout timing of what he's saying? >> always important to put things in a context. you got to remember bernanke's position he's never been a person or never been supposed to act concerned. it's not in his makeup. as fed chair you're supposed to be metered and calm you know even something as diresa a financial meltdown needs to be treated with calmness. neil: i agree he's out of

power now, so fess up and say everyone run for the hills! i guess he can't. >> his interests are aligned with pimco with citadel brookings, again, you're talking people that control a lot of money. if he shakes things up with them, and with their investors, that could be a problem as well. think about this the price-to-earnings multiple of the s&p right now, close to 19 times. now to put that into context before the meltdown in october of 2007, the p/e 17.3. we're much higher. and by the way, growth is deteriorating, when you say prices aren't high or telling me there aren't any quote, unquote bubbles, bubble might be a strong word but prices high, i see that. >> well he's not saying they're extremely high i understand why he's doing this if we were all of a sudden to moan about it he did everything he did to prevent another meltdown failed or set us up for a new disaster i can understand his not wanting to do that. i think he's going a little bit too far to pooh-pooh all the

other professionals who said things are getting heady. both for the economy and the markets. no one is smart enough with the exception of you to say that correction comes, but it would behoove him to say that corrections and adjustments come? >> and i found it disturbing that in the article they talked about how he brushed off a rate increase being good news for the market, and granted yes if rates begin to increase sooner or later, that means good things are happening, if they go up too quick, that could trigger bad things and got to keep the psychological part in mind and remember that we've all been through serious tough times in the past decade and look back in that not just with rose-colored glasses. neil: balanced presentation at that. jared thanks always. >> thanks, neil. neil: a new report saying china is creating a new billionaire each week every week another billionaire. a pace so fast, china will

surpass u.s.' total number of billionaires. we've got to pay attention to that, and if we don't we're going to get run over by that. larry, what is china doing right? one of the things you could say is there are a lot more people in china than the united states, it stands to reason that even a fraction of that population is going to eclipse the part of our population as billionaires right? >> that would make sense the odds in their favor based on the numbers alone. however, the part of the story i found most interesting was that 25% of their billionaires grew up in poverty as opposed to 8% of ours and 6% of europe. so what's the deal. was the market just so conducive over there, that everybody was able to become a millionaire or more people are able to become millionaires. it's a pretty good market and capitalistic and where we're becoming more socialistic. that's in their favor right now. or were they just so hard

working and they have a better work ethic than we do that they were able to take advantage ever the opportunities? it's a combination of those things but better pay attention and stop demonizing the rich people and start saying it's okay to go work hard, and we've got to be more in favor of business, and we're just not. neil: you know what's weird too larry, it's at its core a communist country they have capitalist underpinnings on the rest. it's a communist country, and yet those who succeed there find is a far more enticing environment i would imagine, than those here. that's a little disconcerting. in this widely considered oppressive countries they find the environment friendlier than it would be in good old capitalist usa, i don't think that's necessarily true but the success rate seems to beg that point. >> it does seem to bear that out for sure, which makes us question how hard we're being

on businesses and why our own country is not more conducive to creating more billionaires. neil: we don't like rich people in this country. in china they're okay with them, they kind of like them. >> they do like them, and i think that's part of the core problem with all of this and what we can look forward to in the future, as long as we keep demonizing rich people and we have politicians who will come out and make us believe that the wealthy are evil simply because we're not wealthy and they are, and we make it appear they earned their money dishonestly that's wrong, and that's creating a whole mind-set in our country that is not going to be conducive to us doing well in the future. neil: if you think about the victims and the argument they could make, and they don't, that's pretty scary. >> i know. neil: i know indeed, good seeing you again my friend. larry winget. >> thank you. neil: to the irs and 100,000

tax records compromised. how do you know it's not yours? two words. you don't!

. neil: you know it's one thing for target to fess up and say it screwed up, quite another for the internal revenue service, if you think about it there's a big difference between a retailer saying your credit card is compromised, than the irs saying your tax data was. because 100,000 americans tax data was compromised and unbeknownsted to the largest tax collection power on earth. we don't know what on earth got out or whose tax info got out or whether any of the folks have found out. but what we do know is tax records tend to be a tad bigger than credit card receipts and in the wrong hands much more dangerous and prone to extortion, and keep in mind, this is what we know right now this all happened months ago

and we're only learning about it now. cyberexpert ira victor says it's going to get worse. first my basic question i've raised this before why do we always find out well after the fact. with the irs it was a couple of months, but well after the fact, why is that? >> the attackers are very good at keeping a low profile. think about it neil if they want to raise red flags, that would -- if they raise red flags that would stop their attack, they need to go low and slow steal the information and get as much as they can, before, in this case the authorities figure out what's going on. >> the irs finally did, 200,000 attempts, 100,000 succeeded. do we know who the people are? do we know who is behind this or what's done with the information? >> we can only speculate, the irs has not told us what they know about the people that they think are behind this attack but we can speculate from

previous attacks that i are part of a vast underground economy, there's a whole part of the internet referred to as the dark web or the dark net. you don't get there by going to google or yahoo! you need special software developed, ironically by the federal government by the military, for communications, and cryptic communication, and they didn't want our enemies to be able to look to crack all of the data and find something valuable. so the federal government the military released that software to the entire world so that their communication would be hidden among nonmilitary communication. that dark net, that dark web is where the cybercriminals thrive. you can literally buy a hit on someone, you can buy a hitman to murder someone. so the ability to buy people's identities and their tax records as bad as that is on the low scale of seriousness of what is trade in commerce.

neil: what's scary about this is very little basic facts they got through and got a lot of this tax info, in other words the social security numbers, i guess can you guess people's passwords, but and they were in. >> it was easy. neil: i understand. but i guess what i'm asking you is what are they doing with the information? to get through are they extorting someone with it? we see the writeoffs and the contributions you're making we don't think this is accurate. >> think of it as a huge underground bazaar where you have buyers and sellers, neil you have all sorts of people saying if i had this sort of information about neil cavuto, what could i do with it? and you have all different types of criminals with different skills that will buy and trade in this information, stoked be extortion, it could be draining money out of your bank account it could be all -- no one can conceive of all

the different ways to use this rich treasure trove of information that the cybercriminals allegedly stole from the irs. right underneath their nose. neil: you are right. the irs, that's the scary part. ira thank you, good having you, even on the days like this. >> thanks, neil. neil: have you had it with the flash floods we've been seeing? they're not going to be over in a flash. hurricane season might be one for the record books. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ the ones with the guts to stand apart - join a league all their own. ♪ the real question that needs to be asked is "what is it that we can do that is impactful?" what the cloud enables

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. neil: more on the way for texas as it tries to battle these flash floods that seem constant. all this while hurricane

officials are forecasting 6-11 named storms this season. they're not always right. this guy, is meteorologist michael flackter hasn't had a chance to sleep since the winter, it's boom, boom boom. >> oklahoma, texas, louisiana is horrific flooding, it's textbook earth science, you have the old air over the plains, warm gulf of mexico waters and the air over that, and a low level jet clashing the two air masses record copious rains and fatal flooding. >> serious flooding serious rains and one that at least the forecasters is going to be around a while. >> they're at double or triple the monthly totals for the month of may and obviously this pattern looks to resume. neil: what is the pattern michael? is it just this stuff sits, the cold air sits over the warm air. >> we're locked in a pattern

like i mentioned with the cold air just clashing and lingering with that warm air and that zone is right over the arklatex region, lower mississippi texas as we turn the page to june, i see some of the storms tapering down but this is tornado season. neil: you have tornadoes hurricanes to worry about. anything disproportionate to recent years? >> well we can kind of make the link here that a lot of the storms in texas are due to the warm gulf of mexico waters and hurricanes and tropical storm love warm waters, so the gulf is warm, the bahamas is warm the northern caribbean and western atlantic is warm, if we don't get that many named storms like the government outlooks are saying, they can be strong as they head to land or be supportive in terms of them heading towards the coastline. neil: and yet california still mired in a drought. >> once in a century drought, that's the headline in the

west. actually in the northeast people aren't really paying attention too closely. the last five weeks, extremely dry, one of the driest late aprils to late mays have be one of the hottest mays in history, and that can steer the storms up to new england and the east coast. neil: is this a climate change phenomenon or something more climatic? >> somewhere seasonal some are multidecattal. a lot of the hot julys in the 50s led to hurricanes coming up to new england in august and september. so -- >> hopefully you get a break. michael always a pleasure, thank you for clarifying some of the craziness. whiney millennials now, now i'm told they hate being called millennials. millennial. millennial. i love you.

. neil: well guys like gas are giving millennials a bad name.

>> millennials never eat at very good restaurants. they don't know food. what's their big drug now? ecstasy? >> we did mind expanding drugs, most millennials are losers they're educated and student here's the thing we've got going for us the millennials are so dumb they can't catch us. neil: we call charlie our renaissance man. a majority of millennials hate being called millennials, gaspo, we have three of them here, christie, jillian and michael, so do you hear that? >> i heard that. i think cry baby boomers like gasparino might make us not enjoy being called millennials. neil: what bugs you about the title? >> the title itself is fine. neil: you are younger than millennials, right? >> i'm 26. neil: don't rub it in. that's fine. >> sorry about that. you look 26 right? you're a millennial. neil: thank you.

but what is it the constant use of the name? the negative things attached to it. >> the negative stigma attached to it entitled, lazy. neil: what do you think? >> i agree. i'm a little heated at gasparino right now. two reasons, he's a moocher he's a generation of moochers i'm going to say that because this generation has created his generation of politicians. neil: which is my generation. >> created regulatory environments that leave us without jobs. neil: my generation did that? >> the politicians, the regulators. neil: you are bitter. bitter millennials. >> i also want to say this is a generational theft, we're paying for insurance, we're paying for entitlements, and the pension liability state by state is going to cost every single one of us $15,000. i don't want to hear it how his generation is providing for

mine. thanks for nothing, charlie, and by the way you're welcome. neil: no, she didn't! >> i agree that charlie is wrong the question is millennials don't like to be called millennials. this is a generation obsessed with self-expression. >> i think you are self-absorbed. not you! >> some boomers like charlie, 50% of the generation have tattoos. neil: of your generation? >> 54% of millennials have tattoos. neil: do you? >> i do. neil: show me. >> no. neil: fine, fine. >> we don't like to be labeled. neil: you are putting labels on yourself. >> our own labels. we don't like to be called something that somebody else calls us. democrat, republican christian atheist. we don't respond to them because we don't like being labeled by anybody else. is that right or wrong? >> we're being called lazy and

entitled. neil: by the way, point out to people who are watching, you're a lawyer. >> you're favorite. neil: thank you, go ahead. >> i think that we've spoken about how rare attacking the workforce, how is that for lazy and entitled. we're storming the workforce. neil: you blame it we have stolen the benefits. >> if you look at every single chart it peaks. >> you are getting the free college. >> yeah, well -- >> what, what what what what. >> let's talk about that. neil: so did we so did i, and i paid it off. >> we are too. neil: not all of you! >> well, it happens in every generation it's foolish of gasparino to make generalizations about every generation, i happen to think he's a terrific reporter. neil: don't give him an inch. >> we check our facts we have statistics to back things and he staked out a position he cannot defend and put himself

in a position where he has to defend it. neil: which makes him a lousy reporter. >> we have to remember we're looking at a generation at the max, 33, 34, if we were to look at boomers any generation in the infancy, how can we possibly make smart decisions and smart understanding of who they are until they've grown up. we're going to change as we get older and only then look back and decide who the generation really is. neil: i want to introduce him to my lawyer. >> something else gasparino said is our generation. neil: you know what i love? you don't refer to him by his first name. gasparino. you are that pissed. >> our generation is the one responsible for electing obama. neil: this is gasparino, the man who you say is evil. he dances in his office. it's a mess. >> he dances like a boomer. neil: he does! metamucil in one hand.

i'm sorry i interrupted your fine point. >> he's saying our generation is responsible for obama, but i look at the statistics on it today. if it was a 50-50 split within our generation obama had a wide margin from other generations that he still would have been elected. you can't pin that on us. neil: you are right about that. young people by and large, liberal. >> you have seen us going libertarian most of us are heading conservative earlier than past generations. neil: is the bloom off the rose with you guys? regardless of right or left are you saying enough already? >> i'm very conservative. neil: are you really? >> yeah, grew up in a conservative household my parents grandparents, and i agree. >> i am in the middle. so many millennials feel they are socially liberal financially they are more conservative. that makes sense when you look at what we've experienced. neil: julie sounds bitter.

we have that, too. >> the fiscal policies that we've seen enacted by previous generations and best embodied in obama and members of another generation have hurt us the most. it's no surprise we are leaning toward conservatives. neil: grandparents and great-grandparents observed a depression, a world war and didn't whine like you are doing now. >> that's not whining. i'm sticking it out for my generation. >> they believed in their politicians millennials whether conservative or liberal they think that their politicians are -- . >> i want to you think, if we have the chance to show the man they've created, this is how he dances. >> wow. look at that. first bump. neil: look at office and he's got 17 lunches he doesn't know are there under the pile of booksment that's not a sound mind. we will have more after this. stick around. only nicorette mini has a patented fast-dissolving formula. it starts to relieve sudden cravings fast.

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. neil: here's all you need to know that elon musk is getting something done. consumer reports deeming his cars undrivable. spaceships are flyable. elon musk launched our national security missions to popular science one of my favorite guests is here. now to be fair to elon musk he has made great huge leaps in this, and this technology of usable rockets in infancy. he's into something, they keep look at the technology yet to pan out and saying he's not the guy. >> this is a huge win for capitalism right? elon has fought for the right to compete for contracts with the pentagon. so he's already built rockets and used them to fly supplies

up to the international space station with nasa. that is a contract with the pentagon. neil: the idea the reusable feature of that that is yet to pan out. he still flies them up. we forget that. >> exactly right. yes elon is the type of guy that has a lot of big ideas, as he's pursuing the big ideas hitting a number of milestones that are underreported and so in this case, especially when it comes to rockets you know, he is already doing quite a bit in the field. the issue here was that the pentagon had signed in september of 2014 they signed a $938 million deal with lockheed martin and boeing, and it's called under the name the united launch alliance. what elon has done is earned the right to compete for that cash. you're talking about nearly a billion dollars that's given to two companies up-front for work on military launch systems and elon is saying i just want the chance to compete for those

contracts. neil: this reminds me of a batman bruce wayne role anything that helps wayne enterprises comes back to wayne enterprises and batman takes advantage of that. is he ultimately helping tesla cars when consumer reports say the damn things lock you out. >> a good question, tesla is its own independent company. neil: would you make a big deal out of the consumer reports thing? >> no to be honest, consumer reports grades cars on a number of different tests. the tesla -- neil: maybe the guy that got locked out is a moron doing it. >> they are fuel-efficient vehicles, might give a high rating to the ford gt, that wouldn't be quite as interesting. neil: do you think the technology is sound boosting the energy capacity on the batteries, well on there all

the stuff on the site can't be hurting, right? he looks like the rocket man. >> he has his hands in a lot of different things and i wouldn't trust one person's judgment on the vehicle and also there's a lot of interesting news coming out for tesla over the course of the next year, especially in concern to their batteries that are powering the vehicles so you know, i wouldn't put too much weight in that particular review. neil: he is a remarkable guy agree? that's a mind. >> yeah. neil: and you have a great mind too as well. michael thank you very much. another court refusing to lift president obama's deportation halt. a judge says that is an impeachable offense.

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here, and not commencing deportations does that put him in violation of these edicts, and more importantly the constitution itself. back with my friend the judge, i think that's the gist of what is the argument here. if he doesn't go along -- i mean, is he risking that? >> well, he is risking confronting impeachment. i can't tell you whether or not the republicans in the house where impeachment starts and the republicans in the senate have the political stomach for it as we're approaching the primaries. neil: i doubt it. >> i think you are right. the president proposes changes to the immigration law and the congress rejected them. the president signed a series of executive orders directing people in the department of homeland security which runs the immigration service to follow the proposals he made that were rejected so basically said to five million people immigrants who are here unlawfully if you do a, b, c,

d and e, i won't deport you. he made it up, proposed it to the congress, the congress rejected it! if he does that he's going add a half a million people to our social services rolls, our school systems our emergency rooms and we don't have the money for that. just texas. texas files a lawsuit a group of states in the western is part of the united states joined and a federal judge looks at the documents and says it's a preliminary evaluation there's no trial. so the standard is who will probably win in the federal district judge says the president will probably lose, the president is probably behaving unlawfully, if i don't stop this from happening the states will probably be brpt. i'm going to enjoin the president. very unusual. the president's lawyers appeal this to the federal appeals court and the fifth circuit court of appeals, and yesterday that appellate court upheld the

injunction and said to the president, you can't do this. so your question is now what happens if he does it anyway? neil: or more to the point that he doesn't resume what was the case or presume he had deportations going on, he will argue that's not the case he would have to commence with those because he has been struck down twice trying to freeze. that i think judge is arguing i'm going to keep appealing and you heard the statement with the white house. totally disagree with all of this. what is that going to be his cover? i'm not going to budge because i'm going to take this all the way to the supreme court if need be. >> two responses to, that one is the court that ruled against him yesterday is the second highest court in the land. the court below the supreme court. he can't thumb his nose at that court with impunity. neil: even if he's saying i'm taking this to the supreme court. >> correct he's subject to the court even while application for appeal is pending. neil: he is break the constitution by not honoring the wishes of this court.

>> precisely. >> now going to seek appeal in the supreme court. next week is june the busiest month of the supreme court. i would be quite surprised if they will stop what they're doing and hear his appeal. he files appeal with justice scalia who hears emergency appeals from the fifth circuit area of texas and louisiana, my guess is that justice scalia will present it to the other eight justices or say we don't have time for this. let them litigate this in the courts. here's where the philosophical, the legal, the political and the moral question comes together, what do you do about a president who refuses to enforce the laws as they were written, who wants to enforce them as he wishes they were, and who thumbs his nose at federal judges telling him what to do? there is a constitutional answer as unpattalible and unlikely as it is that's the only answer it's impeachment. neil: still unlikely. >> yes. i can't imagine the republicans

wanting to muddy the presidential political waters at this stage. neil: many would be tempted. judge thank you very much. >> you're welcome. neil: explain this like nobody's business. thanks for watching us. see you tomorrow. see the fallout from all of this tomorrow as well. tonight. good night from new york. a hundred thousand creepy crawlers. fighters that will cover your whole face. >> all collected from the far reaches of the world. >> is it alive? >> talk about a bug's life. >> walt disney went into the museum and wanted to buy the collection. >> is there a bigger story behind this request. >> that was an interesting and eye opening experience all its own. ♪ i'm jamie co