both. lou: we gotta run, real quickly. thank you. >> thank you. lou: that's it for us tonight tomorrow former army vice chief of staff general jack keane, thanks for being with us tonight, good night from new york. . neil: by george now george, too. former new york governor pataki the latest republican to throw his hat into a crowded presidential ring. if you throw in rick santorum who announced yesterday, that is nine official republican presidential candidates today and i'm not including the big guns set to pull the campaign trigger in the weeks ahead. including this guy who presently polled ahead of them all. wisconsin governor scott walker. governor welcome good to have you. >> good to be with you, neil. thanks for having me on. neil: that's a crowd you're on top of the crowd for now. looking at the numbers and thinking is it possible whether you jump in you're in with, this are we going to have a

nominee by cleveland time, convention time? >> it can go far into next year that's the exciting thing. republicans are excited out there. not just a chance to have a new president but a new dynamic reform minded conservative president who can work with the house and the senate and move the country forward that's the exciting part. neil: you don't think mitt romney will engage in the slingshot back and forth it dragged on. >> governor romney was really the front-runner from the beginning to the end, so one at a time, you had people be the counters to that. in this race it's wide open. neil: four or five of you, 10% in the latest poll. do you feel the pressure when you are out of nowhere and now on top of the polls. do you prefer to be the little engine that could behind them? >> i ran track, my coach would say i would win by whipping around the end that last quarter lap there. neil: me too, me, too. i was in a car. >> there you have it. he'd say scott it's a lot easier if you are ahead the

whole time. in the end there are ups and downs that's exciting about the process. i haven't announced whether i'm a declared candidate or not. we'll do our fifth and sixth year property tax relief and make our intentions known to the public. neil: a lot of money types in the party that have given to you hand over fist as they are to jeb bush and marco rubio we could have many candidates staying in longer because they'll have plenty of money to stay in longer, and you as the proportion of the delegates unlike the states are winner take all, what to you think? >> the party anointing is going to be tested. we have to try out ideas for those of us who may or may not get in. state our case make our argument strong. it's exciting. you've seen me you've been there firsthand in wisconsin during the recall election.

we've won four years for the first time since a president not since 1984. what they're looking for is someone who's going to fight for them fight and win every single day for hard working taxpayers. neil: you argue this debate is good for the party, maybe it is, i just wonder when rand paul says isis exists because of gop war hogs. what do you think of a statement like that. you question rand paul's filibuster like performance in the well of the senate, that it was counterproductive, i'm paraphrasing here. so i'm just wondering how divisive that is? >> i respectfully disagree with senator paul, and i believe the reason that we're facing troubles and not only that region but the world is the lack of american leadership. when you see it not just in syria, not just in iraq, you see it going down the path towards a supposed agreement with iran, you see it with

putin creeping into the ukraine, you see it with islands of sanding in the south china sea, there's a consistent theme around the world, that is as people who are friends or foe look around and see an absence under this president and not just under the obama doctrine largely under the obama-clinton doctrine that's going to make it impossible not difficult. we need to establish leadership, that doesn't mean looking around who to blame but have solutions. neil: that's severe to say isis exists because of gop power. >> i think he's wrong on that. unfortunately -- i respect senator paul i'm a fan of him. neil: and you could support him as a nominee. >> there's a lot of good things about him. he's wrong on this one. this is one republican or democrat i'm not going to criticize them personally but i think there's a tendency for certain candidates to go after

people on personality base. the facts are clear, americans are worried about security here and abroad worried about having a commander in chief having to protect the national security interests of this country, and now more than ever. neil: therein lies the second part of that rift, paul and others in the party over the whole nsa issue and the patriot act. you had claimed that again, back to what i was saying for rand paul to try to compromise that was a mistake and what he did. his people immediately got back a spokesperson saying of you, it is a shame to see that the washington machine has co-opted governor walker on this crucial issue. what do you think of that? >> it's one of those where you're going to see something different from us. we're not going to take cheap shots not going to attack other candidates. we're going to lay out facts. facts are clear anyone who's seen the videos of the egyptian christians beheaded or shot

anyone who's seen what's happened in france and belgium and canada. neil: what does that have to do with the nsa? >> ties together. growing trend, now more than ever, this is something that's not just happening over there. france is a good example. people look at what happened in france and say that was because the french government was tracking individuals like this, for a variety of reasons, financial and otherwise. now you see overreaction what some argue may be overreaction in terms of the people in france to go further than the patriot act because of what they saw there. we need to have a responsible way that is legal and constitutional but a way we can make sure if someone is an enemy combatant of the united states and the people of this great country we've got to have the tools we need to prevent another accident to happen. neil: would you be okay in the future if the government wanted to collect 120 million americans' phone records to be safe? >> this is where the balance has got to be. >> you think that part was a

mistake. >> i think there's a way to put in place appropriate checks and balances to ensure we protect the civil liberties that american men and women have fought for for so long in the military, but do so in a way that doesn't concede ability to track enemy combatants and those who seek to do harm. neil: switching back to your state, you made mandatory ultrasound in the state. sometimes when you see ultrasound of your child, talking about your own sons in this case that it's kind of cool. i knew what i meant by that, but obviously that was not the reception that you got at planned parenthood whose president put out a statement. women are very clear that forced government ultrasounds are not cool. what do you think? >> this is a typical example of the left not just leftist organizations but the left in the media take out of context comments. you're right, i talked about my kids are 19 and 20in toette

and i have the first ultrasound picture we took. matthew had the side of his head turned so you could see his hand and his mouth, what appeared to be sucking on his thumb. neil: that's so cool, mine had an iphone. the weirdest thing. stay out governor, this is none of your business. >> they're pushing back and say it is cool. they are cool. mischaracterize our law, if someone goes in for abortion we require that whoever is providing the procedure has to provide access to traditional ultrasound because we believe someone who's pro-life i believe if someone has access to seeing the information, if they can look at it if they so choose, if that's available chances are they're going to pick the life. i think it's a great thing. if they don't under the law they don't have to. the reality is those on the left are afraid of people actually having information. they say they're pro-choice but don't want an informed choice.

neil: do you get a sense with the race the way it is still early on that you have to pick and choose battles. i think of florida because that could be a winner take all state delegates haven't decided that. you raised eyebrows when you consider the possibility of skipping out on that you should run for president. and i think jeb bush and marco rubio fight it out. is that true? >> just to be clear i said a friend of ours laura ingraham on the radio, there's not a state we can't play. in i said iowa, new hampshire south carolina nevada if we were to choose to get in. candidates pick and choose which ones, i said we could play anywhere in the country. the point i made was the exception of saying what state win in? it's a challenge in a state. neil: if you enter the race are you saying you would compete in florida? >> i'm going to be with my friend rick scott in florida next week. neil: see you there. >> we're not conceding anywhere.

i'm pointing out jeb bush and marco rubio will have a distinct advantage. neil: you think one of them is going to whip that state? >> i think we'll make the case anywhere in the country including florida. neil: you're not nicking it? >> no. in the end if i run and if i become the nominee florida is critically important, it's a state my grandfather was a machinist, spent last retirement years in ft. myers to go fishing. neil: not a bad place to do that. on the august iowa straw poll, are you going to participate? >> we're not committing to anything until we make a decision whether we're in or not. anything that requires -- neil: many are dropping out. >> i guess many have said that. we'll make a decision whether we make an announcement what our intentions are. we're not committing to forums and straw polls. neil: you can't win on this one, you lead in polls in iowa if you nicks that iowans might

be offended. if you participate, you don't do well? >> they want to hear from you personally they want you to show up. i was in iowa a weekend ago back in the future, we're going to be back often. i spent seven years of my life from 1970 to 77 in plainfield, iowa. town of 450, my dad was a minister at the first baptist church. we'll be going to plainfield and dubuque and cedar rapids and sioux falls. >> sioux falls is in -- >> it is just outside. redefining the labor movement itself, and it was a right to or not be part of the union. something happened today that transcends this debate. i'm going to pick this governor's brain on that right after this.

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. neil: do as i say not as i do unions in a precarious predicament, labor leaders in los angeles are looking for a union out or exemption from the $15 an hour wage pushing on the part of service workers in the region. governor scott walker back with me right now. they really pushed all of this but want a special carveout for unions. what do you think? >> the audacity and the hypocrisy, like obamacare, some of the same big government labor union bosses who pushed obamacare pushed this president, the liberal leaders in california are asking for a carveout. it's good for politics and political muscle, not good when it comes down to practice. i don't support changes in the minimum wage. i think the better approach is you give people the skills, the education and training they need to succeed with jobs that

pay far greater two or three times the minimum wage. neil: does it bother you if you were the party's nominee and running against clinton or another that you're the anti-work candidate, you're not for the common folk. >> one of the exit polls showed 40% of the self-identified union households voted for us why? defy the logic of what the media are telling them, they saw what we did, it was pro-worker pro taxpayer. we took the power away from the special interests, the union bosses, the people involved in the hypocrisy in l.a. and put it firmly in the hands of the hard working taxpayers. i don't care whether you work in a factory or small business or employer out there. we want people who are going to fight and win. neil: would you fight for higher minimum wage. rick santorum said we should have a higher minimum wage. mitt romney said a higher minimum wage. >> the better answer is fight for getting people the

resources, where they can invest in the programs i've invested in as a governor, just in the last couple years, we put more money in apprenticeship programs, technical colleges to help people get careers in advanced manufacturing and health care and i.t. that pay three or four times what they're proposing the minimum wage. neil: you've addressed the fact you technically don't have a college degree 3 1/2 credits shy. we've had nine presidents that don't have college degrees. a powerful democratic donor john morgan who said of you that you're a dumb, rhymes with bit. you would be the first president without a ged. but we cannot have a dumb bit as president and he is a total dumb bit. what do you think of that? >> i hope that's the last attack, should we get in and fortunately be the nominee.

not only does it not resonate with over 60% of americans in the same position it's the disconnect from everyday americans. i was in college, i had the good chance to get a great education going into senior year i was offered a full-time job at the american red kroshgs unlike my friends who have degrees and no job, i didn't have a degree thinking i would go back. i met my wife we had alex you had all your time and money spent. neil: you knew you were going to marry her from the first date? >> first date may 1st, 1992 took her a little while later but to your point, i've got two sons, matt and alex are in college we are helping out with tuition. neil: how would you feel if they were in their second or second semester and dropped out. >> they want careers they think require a college degree that's why we're helping out.

we need to make sure we don't look down that we understand we should lift up americans who choose to go for careers that require a two-year associate degree or apprenticeship it would be nice to have a president that acknowledged that. neil: do you think hillary clinton should apologize or tell him he should apologize for the remarks? >> i'm so used to the attacks. i think in the end, the better distinction would be to say what are we going to do to lift up every american. i'm tired of this president and tired of having a third term of this president. it would be nice to have a president that lifted us all up. neil: pit you against governor chris christie, it's a lot harder doing what he's doing because he's dealing with legislature in the opposing party. easy for you because have you republican control of all bodies of government there. you say what? >> we went from a state all democrat to all republican, and we got the job done. that's exactly what we'll be able to say on the next president.

we know we're going to keep the house short of absent a meltdown politically more challenging in the united states senate. i think the next president, republican president is going to be able to bring republicans in the house and senate together. exactly what we did in a state that hasn't gone republican since 84. neil: you tweeted senator rubio 44th birthday. today you are 47. am i looking at the next ticket who would be on top? >> dispute depending whose side you're on. i said happy birthday from another 40 something. neil: did he tweet back to you? >> he said thanks see you in a week in iowa. i'm going be on a harley like via the home. there is something exciting. people want someone new, fresh, someone from outside of washington. most importantly they want someone who can do more than talk, they can deliver. neil: see you next week in orlando. we'll be there with it. >> exciting.

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. neil: all right i know this is not a fox flash but clear that scott walker is running for president just like it is pretty clear after all is said and done maybe two dozen other guys will be running along with him. does the size of this field mean republicans risk delaying their nominee if they have one by convention time but leaving her or him badly wounded for the election. time to address the impact of all of that. we have lizzie macdonald and nick schaeffer and noel you delay a conclusion to the race? >> competition is healthy i'm all for competition, what it does do i'm looking at the money side of it makes all these guys compete for a lot of

the same dollars. when i say a lot of the same dollars, the big bundlers, the pacs. that's going to be a huge competition and race to get the dollar. neil: will we have a nominee by cleveland? >> i hope so. >> i know you hope so i'm saying you don't. >> i hope we do. neil: okay fine. dan here's why i say we don't and it has nothing to disparagany of the candidates simple math six of the guys have 20 million dollars, maybe secondhand smokes that could keep them lingering on through the primary process, and it is conceivable we don't have a standard bearer by cleveland. is it such a big deal those from brokered conventions in the past have gone onto win but it's an attention geter? >> wall street doesn't like uncertainty, it's going to throw uncertainty into the stock markets and the bond

markets and the currency markets and what the candidates say about foreign policy? there's been a lot of issues with the current administration about trade, and a lot of that might be unraveled. so this will change the dimension of the markets. i think that we'll see a lot more volatility from the market point of view as we get to the convention and as the front-runners are there. the bottom line is it's going to be based on how much money is raised and who's going to push forward. some of the policies are going to affect a lot of people. >> i wonder if you look six, seven years ago with the emergence of barack obama and told people that the markets would have doubled and would have seen improvement, obviously, from the basement level that we're seeing today, is it a given that it's disastrous if let's say hillary clinton is the nominee and wins? >> who knew the government is going to flip the switch on 6 trillion in spending the senate reserve is going to do what it did. i think that gop really needs to buckle down and get a

candidate. remember -- >> is it dangerous if they get there and not quite have one? >> watch what happened in 2007. at this time in the case rudy giuliani was the presumptive front-runner and then it was a match gravel and john mccain came in. hillary is cementing her policy positions. the gop rainmakers as the point is made don't know where to put their money right now. where does the chamber of commerce money get spread around? yeah, scott walker seems taylor made for the iowa caucuses and all of that. i think the points are well taken that we do not yet know who the gop contender, is the front-runner, is you don't know what the policy is just yet. >> the argument is none of the guys is well known as hillary clinton but that to get to know him is to like him, and that if you got to know scott walker, if you got to know jeb bush, got to know marco rubio better you'd be that's the republican hope.

you think that registers? >> yeah people are hot on scott walker. neil: is he in your eyes the front-runner. >> i will tell you i've gotten e-mails from big bundlers in texas and florida stating they are having roundtables and get to know scott walker fund-raisers. neil: allow bush and rube grow fight it out? >> he could, but who knows. neil: they like him, they like walker. >> starting to put their money where their mouth is and starting to hold get together so you can get to know him. that tells you something a lot of the donors you think would have gone to bush. neil: dan, wall street is not monolithic not entirely right wing but among those who are and looking at this base, where does walker stand? >> walker stands as a conservative. he's almost like a reagan in essence that's what he's trying to emulate and i think wall street likes. that the problem i see is the trust factor in this cycle is

does wall street trust the government? and one of the theories i'm following is the market is going up, the art market because people are placing their money out of government investments and going into the private sector for safety purposes that could happen. neil: what do you think? final thought? >> i don't read any forecaster you read one, you read them all at this point. we don't know where it's going to end up. if it's a walker-rubio ticket, that's powerful. neil: or rubio-walker. >> either way. neil: young guy, who knows. i'm not the only one who thinks the ugly solar panels on the roof are a joke. apparently ronald reagan did, and guess who does now? exxon that's a shock, right? not.

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. neil: all right, i don't think exxon is a big fan of solar panels. exxonmobil's ceo thinks that really they're not the

affordable energy source that everyone thinks. renewable energy quote only survives on the backs of government mandates that are not sustainable, we on purpose choose not to lose money. to howard and mark who says basically renewables have not proven profitable. on that count you say mark, he's right. >> he's right, this is basic business economics. exxonmobil is a fossil fuel company. neil: gets a lot of tax credits and benefits. >> we should end those. renewables they're not a profit center so he's speaking reality. as if we were to say to mcdonald's you're experts at burgers and fries let's see how the business economics works out. neil: they did and it has not worked out. howard, what do you make of that. i'm not surprised this is the head of exxonmobil saying this. he's saying i always say if they find a nickel they would do, it obviously, exxonmobil

explored the alternative technologies to little avail. what do you think? >> i think you look at their largest competitor out, there which is shell. shell is heavily investing in this space, they view it as a hedge. so to say it's not -- we're not in the business of losing money. neil: that's an excellent point. >> not only is it misguided and misinformed, dissimulating true opinions or ignorant thing to say for a ceo of a company like that. neil: do you think, mark, on that level alone, the shell thing is a good example would it behoove him, even iran is spreading bets even going to nuclear energy. do you think there is something to be said of what would it hurt? you generate a lot of money, put a little into this? >> perhaps over the long-term. take a look at portfolio of the country where does energy come from.

39% comes from coal. he sees coal on the decline nuclear staying about steady and what do you have after that? natural gas at 27%. room nar to grow. the industry invested a trillion dollars over nine years in extraction. in fracking and other means of extraction. they're putting money where they're going to get the greatest return. neil: howard -- >> but that's completely not true. >> go ahead. >> the fact is that 17% of the energy that's produced in the country now is renewable fuel source. last month alone 100% of energy was renewable and 85% of the new energy in 2015 produced was done through renewables. keep look at the market. >> it includes hydro you're not talking about solar. solar is a tenth of 1% of our power. >> he said renewable. >> 4% of our power. long-term we should have renewables, make investments if

they see a return on the investment they will in the long-term we're going to get a bridge with natural gas with, nuclear, with hydro and other methods wind and solar are not going to provide a return. >> but why do you need that when basically the argument was it's too expensive, it's a job killer. both of those things are not true. it's not too expensive. solar is a parity in places and it's a luxury job creator in coal. neil: take the credit where the credit is due, may the best man win oil has a significant start. you will acknowledge that, right? . >> sorry? >> absolutely. it has a head start, put the investment where the return's going to come from. you can't get a return out of it. neil: i tell you my only -- when we as a nation say we're all in on all energy week should be all in on all energy. what's exxonmobil going to do? that's their business.

all in on everything, right? >> exactly. the fact is i'm not condoning more fossil fuels, if you look at his clientele or potential customers, the millennials, they're saying we need a mix of everything. he's not saying that. >> consumers are taking in the cost. >> and oil and coal and fossil fuels aren't? they're rolled into our taxes. neil: both argue your points very, very well. >> we fought for a losing position. neil: look at time. the collapse after the collapse. was lehman's bankruptcy just the beginning for dick fuld? charlie gasparino had a chance to quite literally bump into the ex-ceo. see how that went, after this.

. neil: all right, charlie gasparino trying to talk to dick fuld today, the man many say caused the lehman brothers collapse. charlie you're reporting he's not doing a lot of good right now and unanswered issues right

now what happened? >> we should point out dick fuld is coming out for the first time since 2008. neil: why now? >> 6+ years, the statute of limitations on potential charges against him for any alleged possible improprieties and how he managed lehman brothers is coming to an end, and might not face regulatory scrutiny. he's itching to say something, he spoke at microcap conference. what's interesting is he didn't say much about lehman. he had bland remarks about it, but didn't say much. why is that? if you look at my report on foxbusiness.com today i discuss what he's been doing since he left lehman involved in a lot of sketchy risky deals including one deal that blew up, and one of the people involved in the deal committed suicide as fox business was reporting it. and in that story, you'll see i looked at his brokerage

records. he has pending cases against him. he can't say much, and i think that's one issue faceing. >> how is he to you? did he acknowledge you, you obviously chased him for years? >> he's always liked me. i've always been fair to the guy. he came out with a scowl on his face. you don't really see this. when he saw me he smiled and went like that. neil: we're the same way here. charlie's in. >> it's one of the half smiles. but here's the thing the other part of the story is, this neil, most people involved in the financial crisis are doing well, john mack of kkr funds. look at what he went from lehman brothers to penny stocks. fascinating down fall. neil: great stuff. >> and great millennial stuff. you have seen the latest one. neil: wait until you here this before the cowboy saddles up it's time to meet a letter if it's like your own don imus

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. neil: finally, forget dave, did you hear about dom, when i broke the news on fox news channel, you were shocked. david letterman calling it quits, they started asks why the media wasn't make a deal out of don imus quitting. don imus isn't leaving the business, just fox business, tens of millions of fans will hear him after tomorrow, they won't be able to see him. the original shock jock behind one of the most popular radio

programs in american history will be shocking and countless broadcasters will be copieg and no doubt not a one of them crediting the only difference is don imus will be shocking them all from texas not for a new gig but don and his long suffering wife deirdre. their son, who's something of a high school rodeo star and for whom don and deirdre are devoting lives to making a bigger rodeo star. not one of the best, the best. that's the way the imus' do it. i don't doubt they'll succeed or sacrifice they are making for their beloved teenager but back to me because i do not like it. you see my friends, i'm not taking this well. full disclosure unabashed imus groupie a faithful that it sickens don himself. he's told me. what is worse i've been this way since i was a kid. he's that much older than me

and i caught the outlandish things this guy was doing on the radio, long before anyone else. by the way my dad was a fan, he was italian. my irish mom, not so much. but back to me because imus leaving fox business is about what this is doing to me. it's changing my whole morning routine, i know, i know, i can still hear don and the civil-like snakes and multiple personalities that are rob bartlett or tony powell or warner wolf or bernard meggerk i can't see any of them much like the incredulous reaction very unusual questions don gets and jarred. and more remarkable revealing when they are. that is what makes don imus the star i think he is not his biting humor but the biting interviews. he catches every word, that's why i'll miss all the fun he

provide at fox business. yep, even when he was giving us and especially me the business. ♪ my friends, it's the reverend billy! bill, my brother, cavuto. i can't go on forever with 66-inch thighs. i need a banana. what's the problem there? >> we're all having to watch. >> this is a problem every morning. >> rob bartlett appearing as deirdre imus. >> the army jacket like you are in the service and trying to tell people that you know everything. it's stupid! please! >> when you say stuff about people, and then run into them how does that go? >> i never run into them. >> you don't? >> i'm never invited to anything. [ laughter ] >> you're the governor of new jersey, if you're not pulling down a lot of money, then

you're not in a great tradition. >> breaking tradition, don, and not taking the envelopes of cash. >> i don't go around and pretend we know you very well or hang out. >> you know me pretty well, don. >> the affordable care act is going to be a deal. >> i think it may collapse. >> what are you doing? drinking something? >> i was drinking coffee. i apologize for that. >> i was wondering what you were doing. i was having a sip of my -- >> what is this the hanoi hilton, he can't take a sip of coffee. >> i thought you were havingoy pop this morning. >> what are you going to do torture me? [ laughter ]. >> i can't tell you. >> sounds like a drug transaction. >> no no sometimes i give people a hard time you know. >> i decided i was going to do with you, not give you a hug.

>> good call on that. >> behave yourself all right? >> yes, sir. >> did somebody say to you, you don't wear a coat and tie when you go on the show. >> when you're not running for everything and going to be on a radio show with a cowboy. i didn't expect to you have a velvet jacket and a black tie. >> it's cord roy. >> how's the bout with cancer. >> i had an accident this morning. >> what happened? >> i was taking a shower and stepped on my [ bleep ]. >> well you're an old hand but for me i want focus. everybody we're doing a show, the don imus show. >> son of a bitch. welcome to the show tom. i haven't had coffee. >> come on! no, no don, not so much. not so much. >> are you kidding me? [ laughter ]. >> it's 412 degrees. >> come on. >> what's the matter with him? >> those are bedroom shoes,

ernie. >> what? >> those are terrible. this is literally turning into a nurses home. >> my foot's killing me wham i supposed to wear? >> knock knock. >> who's there? >> the elephant man. >> i don't want you to know that's why i wear a sack over my head. >> i'm best sportscaster of the country. did you know that? >> i was saying that like it's an upday i'm not that fond of you personally. >> connell connell, how would i know that? what's wrong with colin. who's idea is it when connell, what's the guy's name? >> connell. >> you screw everyone's name up! [ laughter ]. >> clint eastwood, you got a problem with that? >> get him another jelly

doughnut. >> that's lovely. >> i'm not demeaning. >> i'm not buying your nonsense. >> wear a helmet. >> you are such an idiot! >> how does that sound fat so. >> cavuto should get hit by lightning when he's at denny's bacon run or someone should attempt to show a movie on his forehead. or should be mistaken as a bob's big boy statue and the manager tries to staple the daily special on his chest. i'm going blame the people in new mexico. i swear to my grandchildren, i will not be the one to break the peace we've made today. >> i'm going to murder neil cavuto. i'm going to sneak up on him, like the godfather movie in the bar walk up behind him in the piano wire. that's what i'm going to do to neil cavuto. >> don imus will agree to never be mean to neil cavuto or bo dietl as the sheets will almost likely be wet, he might

not notice for a while. [ laughter ] >> very good.. >> i'm here trying to raise money. >> i just shut her mic off. you know why? because i can. >> because you can't at home. >> here's what i want to do i want to install a mic you on at home. so i can just -- [ laughter ] >> what were you saying honey? >> you're unbelievable. >> you are very funny and you're very, very self- -- >> jump off of it. >> i only say things to get to you dump the call. that's it. [ laughter ] >> hello, i'd like the fettuccine with tomato and fresh basil and then i want to start with two -- is this pommela? hello. >> i don't know what to -- i don't believe it.

you know daggan and the family's all at the beach. >> yeah i know. >> at the big family reunion. >> and i'm wondering why you are not there? >> i wasn't invited. >> oh. did you say hi to your sister? >> yes i said hello. i won't touch her, because you don't know where she's been. >> she doesn't seem all this friendly. >> we're not that sdmrees all right. >> she's jealous of me. >> from brian wilson. good morning. >> i'm brian wilson, how are you? i'm fine. the santa ana winds will level a malibu beach house like that. [ laughter ] >> he was up until 1:00 in the morning last night. >> great job neil. >> must have stayed in town, huh? >> i was at your place. >> i wondered what the big lump was. [ laughter ] >> are you there? >> yeah sorry.

>> what happened there? >> catching up. [ laughter ] >> obituaries no don imus! >> what button am i supposed to push? >> oh no. >> you fat bastard get out of there. >> wait a minute i got it! [ bleep ]. >> that's not it. >> thank you very much this is it? you were on for 12 minutes. >> 12 minutes i'm never getting back. >> nor is the audience. [ laughter ] ♪ imus in the morning ♪. neil: you than really does sound like an obit package, not at all. that's why i feel compelled to remind you one of the funniest and most engaging importants is alive and well born at a time the world was going to war and pretty much fighting with

everybody ever since. don imus not yet dead. about the only good news i can find in any of this for now.

. >> i was holding the books up and screaming like a kiddie schoolgirl. during the war period like a superman 17 with superman beating the snot out of hitler.