it has been waiting for 37 years. stuart: giving all his money made from that race to children's charity, good man indeed, great guy to have on the show. my time is up. neil cavuto is next. neil: thank you very much. big doings in new jersey today if it could have national implications. you may have heard earlier, new jersey's highest court ruling in the governor's failure that he did not have to make good on a payment to the state pension fund, many in the union movement in new jersey said this was the them when they made concessions to him. some of you may recall the governor had said conditions had changed markedly in new jersey and revenue deteriorated markedly and the $1 million payment in abundance, he promised that ahead of time, couldn't be made. does this affect the presidential race in a dramatic way? no but it removes one big problem for the governor.

the back-and-forth of what happens with the bridgegate scandal is an entirely different matter but for now, focusing on the numbers here, at least for now he is out of the woods. at least some of the woods. liz: that is exactly right. this is a major blow to new jersey's public pension system and the workers for the state of new jersey basically losing at the new york state supreme court level. chris christie and his administration will not have to make the pension problems and solve the pension problems for the state of new jersey. chris christie had campaigned on pension reform and in his state of the state addresses he said is motto is road map for other states and getting fiscal sobriety into the pension system. the state of new jersey's $83 billion pension hole is triple the state's but according to the governor. in 2011 he signed a law for pension reform saying he and

subsequent governors had to make the pension system hole. in a reversal, he has fought at the supreme court level 3 first funding for the pension system for the state of new jersey. right now on his watch the state of new jersey has been downgraded eight times and its rating is the second lowest, only better than illinois. back to you. >> we got a skater from the governor saying this is an important effort not only for taxpayers to cannot afford these unsustainably high costs but for a limited constitutional government that recognizes the proper role of executive and legislative branches of government. the court's position is clear it is time to move forward and work together to find it tangible long-term solution to make our pension system and public employee health benefit costs affordable and sustainable for generations to come. in light of today's decision iredell interested parties to come back to the table and partner with me to finally solve this problem once and for all.

a lot of you are no doubt following what is going on and wondering what would have happened if this had not happened? what would the governor have to do? he would have had to make good on that $1.5 billion, the state is effectively out of money right now and he would have to hike taxes or cut spending more aggressively which could have been a problem and would be a problem next year similarly obligated to fork over $1.8 million to keep this going. two gentlemen following this closely, including that fellow next to me, big chris christie backer, has been for years, former new york stock exchange chairman. a lot of view are saying three tiny americans on the set. there must be a rule against that. on my show there is not. i want to thank you for coming. three for the governor. a big victory for the governor. >> big victory for the american

people. we can't afford, this is not just new jersey this is every state in the union. we are about to head off a cliff for promises politicians make it get votes from the unions which can't be paid but he made promises to them when he got concessions. he proposed promises. >> didn't break and. the circumstances changed. what he could afford then he can't afford now. >> why should they went back to negotiate with him if they know he can break a deal? >> everything is subject to change. how about what the government did with the general motors bankruptcy where they said the union claims came ahead of the senior creditors king general motors is turned upside down to accommodate the unions. >> you support what he did? you don't think this looks like a guy broke his promise? >> not at all. >> your backing him for

president. >> we got a long race coming. nixon got on stage in 1962 after he lost to pat brown and said you won't have me to kick around anymore, six years later he was president-elect of the united states of america. you weren't even born. you were a baby. neil: a lot of people saying it changes the dynamics because this was the cloud over his head and his presidential prospects, still ongoing debate about bridgegate but i always thought this was a bigger issue only because it -- reforming pensions, getting into control, what he wants to do with social security. do you think this green lights his presidential campaign? >> it takes away a large opportunity on the part of his opponents on the republican side and conceivably the other side of the aisle from throwing all

sorts of hand grenades about him breaking promises. liz: he did break a promise. >> put it in perspective. new jersey has $80 billion hole. this is $1.6 billion. the big question. neil: that was a payment into the pension system that addresses $80 billion total. so it is a drop in the bucket. s.a. of execution on that but the end of these obligations remain. >> the larger question for pensioners and for the state of new jersey as an employer are they going to honor pensions, not pension contributions? are you are retired new jersey police officer or teacher or firefighter are they going to fulfill the promise made to you in your last union negotiation? that is not true. diane: that exact promise, you won't get what you thought. >> that may not be the case and

that is what everyone is missing about this discussion. $80 billion hole is not going to be filled by $1.6 billion. neil: can they pick, you said early on, politicians have to be aware whatever promises and obligations were made can't be realized so do those police and firemen and teachers, republicans are out to get us? >> let me take a moment and explain to you why i am for him. neil: more than just the italian thing. >> it helps. the fact that he has got his name, his mother was grasso rights, he might have been related. neil: on many levels. >> america needs, not that america is ready, america needs the truth. 71% of the federal budget is in title quince. unless we address entitlements

in america we are not going to fix our problems, not going to do. we are getting older, living longer, getting sicker as we get older. to is going to take? take a guy out 40 miles, commander a tree and 7 nights-and go to heaven? the fact of the matter is here is what i want this guy to be our president. he is going to tell it like it is. he made it clear, we haven't got the money, we can't do it. goes to new hampshire and what does he say? we have got to do away with entitlements for guys like ken lang don't. i should pay my own health insurance, i shouldn't get a check, my wife and i get almost $4,000 a month from the federal government. i give it to charity. we both give it to charity. neil: when you talk about social security, i think what you are saying was to your point, part

of what he was saying is social security, raise retirement, that wasn't new, he was offering tough medicine. more than excluding billionaires' like yourself, it was a lot of other folks. >> never thought i was a billionaire. neil: i never said you were. >> i am glad you know about my finance is better than i do. neil: by excluding someone like you, that is a no-brainer. he went down the line. when mike huckabee tells me that is a dangerous route to go. >> the third rail of politics, this is what we need, not what we want to hear but what we have to hear. we have got -- guys making a couple hundred grand year that known two homes and getting a check from the government every month, time is out. neil: would bring a couple hundred grand year. >> i may go lower. i don't know the numbers. i haven't studied them but we have got to fix this.

neil: tough love message with you agree or disagree with what the court ruled in new jersey today it is going to be what? you agree that guys like yourself and maybe much lower according to the map, and generous entitlements of the past. >> couldn't agree more. the country can't afford the tides of obligations that were created in a different environment. when social security was written, the expectation was you would live to 65 so no one was going to get paid off. now people are living longer, healthier, in some cases, shouldn't be. you should means test and you should basically send that money to where it can be best used, not with ken lang go digresso. neil: you are the financial exception. >> there are a lot of people, when you start crying all the

people that need to contribute let me begin. you buy fire insurance, you don't proclaim and thank god you didn't have a fire. does the insurance company give back a premium because you didn't have a fire? we all bought insurance, call it whatever you want when we started working. turns out my house didn't burn down, i don't get a premium back but the guy who didn't have the good fortune i had or the opportunities or whatever to the heat where i am, make good for him. neil: many of you pay under welfare and food stamps and we don't get those so at this to another entitlement. >> collectively overall start with the obvious and work down. neil: we will work through the break and a lot of comments back and forth, with john mack. was responding to this big pile on yesterday and who he is surprisingly backing for president of the united states. i will give you a hint.

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national protection. neil: may at remind you, $8 billion a year for taxpayers, that is neither here nor there. money is the problem. if more money we would not have this problem. >> i couldn't disagree more. i king competence is the problem. i think the t s a with all the wonderful people that i joined end was put together on the back of 9/11, it was a rush job, i don't know whether they have got the right management, whether they have got the right recruiting programs or the right training and accountability, stories every day about stopping 6-year-olds to basically frisk them coming through the airport and the gao or the ig, walks through with plastic explosives. neil: whether it's this or what happened in baltimore, the multi decade award on poverty we need

more money. >> let's take a obvious scandal, the va, look at the waiting time, people that served our country, people who protected a sand came back horribly wounded. the issue is not money. the issue is the wise use of money. we go into these different programs, business people who know the bottom line, you will elevate the service from lower-cost. with all due respect to the senator who i don't know, i have never met, i king she is 100% off base. neil: how common this theme is. >> more money is the whole point. look at the results we have now on all these programs. neil: republicans are always on defense on this issue. >> it is not a populist thing to say if you are on the democratic side or the progressive side those vicious republicans are taking away funding to keep this

eighth at airports, meanwhile the agency itself has seen major major falls in their ability to detect. neil: was created by republican president. on the same issuer gets to a bigger issue about the government's role, how far the government goes after fat cats or businesses. it is a theme that came up, back to morgan stanley's ceo who was responding to the bank pylon, listen. >> bankers are still targets, attentive billions paid in fines, not enough. what do you think? >> i'm not surprised at all. neil: are you now anti-democratic presidential candidate? at these the prominent ones are singing from the same thing. >> to me it is all politics, trying to get elected, get the nomination.

neil: you know who iniki is supporting? hillary clinton. she is the one who said topple the 1%, she is in a party with a prominent candidate saying we have to get those bankers and profuse in jail. more rules, regulations on banks as if they don't cost enough and he, a prominent player in the financial community. >> she has gotten advice from pollsters, she can believe what she wants, she has done well in the short amount of time, a $400,000 a speech, she is trying to spin herself as a populist in favor of all the things, i argue with her that by virtue of what home depot has done to create 360,000 jobs, good paying jobs

with career path opportunities, that is success. egos to universities it pays half a million bucks, one thing we do know about hillary, she likes many, like a whole lot. let's go back to those hundred trades she made in commodities, never had a losing one. i would mitterrand my side for six months because who will make enough in six months and never have to work again? neil: maybe this cynical or realistic, he doesn't believe she believes this anti at cat theme but she is going along, gets the nomination, she wouldn't be that type of precedent. >> i can speak from my experience with her she was junior senator from new york and she understood very very well the role of new york as of financial capital. she understood capital markets. i think what is happening is she is taking a page out of a playbook the says in the

primaries you went to the left hand in the general you know damage to the center which is where the country is. neil: half of the 1%. >> popular to say. absolutely. put them all away. until the general election is over and she understands the vital role capital markets play. neil: i can't miss a chance to make a pitch. what i said about chris christie grabbing the third rail of pot tested -- politics. if john these that i feel bad. of he is saying she is saying things i don't believe in very frankly is the johns of the world that allow these people to mislead us to get elected to do something totally different than they said favored going to do. this is what is wrong with politics in america. i think people -- neil: you just trashed him. >> i took what he said. neil: just trashed him. >> sean is my friend. neil: doesn't need anything. you just trashed him.

fine american. >> put back on what he said. he said point blank she is saying this doesn't mean it. he is acknowledging there for insincerity. neil: are acknowledging his insincerity. and you are calling him -- >> you can admit -- i am only kidding. >> the guy in that -- neil: we are watching that the president is talking about obamacare, we have no plan be in case the supreme court were to squelch those subsidies that are key to keeping the affordable care act affordable. of boards of 10 million americans. do you believe that if the supreme court shot that down do you think he did not fill it up a backup plan to keep this thing going? he says no. what do you say? i am almost afraid to hear. >> is an abomination. the whole thing is an abomination. neil: we will go to a quick break, more after this. (actor) when you work for yourself, taxes get complicated.

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king neil: welcome back. i was telling you early on, the t s a hearing going on about how these problems keep cropping up. ironic on this date they had to clear the hearing room. i don't know if the t s a warrant them about that. warning of some harm. the room is empty out. and a metaphor for security and to keep our security today. all right, i have been telling you about this battle about entitlements. we started the broadcast with chris christie in new jersey to rain these indictments in a little bit in the highest court in new jersey has ruled he can go ahead and stave off pension fund that was part of a broader meal to get control on these

costs and that seems to be a big victory for chris christie but it comes at a time when all of the nation's entitlements are facing the same big question. what do we do about them. i talked to mike huckabee for a big presidential summary. it came to social security. >> of all the republican president's stand on one side of the stage and say they will cut social security and cut medicare benefits after they pay them for 15 years of work and i'm the only one on the side of the stage saying i won't do that are happy to be -- and the government honor its promises to people. >> the government should honor its promises to people. that will be a familiar refrain among those who say do not touch social security. senator alan simpson, co-chair of the president's debt commission on deck with us right now. what did you make of what mike huckabee said, not on my watch.

>> first heard your comment about the gene they're being cleared. i knew senators who could clear an empty chamber. i remember that very well. neil: i don't know. >> what mike huckabee is saying is absurd. he is a sharp cookie but his ideas are absurd. you don't say this guy's ideas are nuts. you attack them personally. what he is saying is zoowhen, trustees and telling us, democrats and republicans, well-regarded people, 2033, you get a check for 23% less in he can't raise the retirement age to 68 by the year 2015 when all ready you can retire at 65 and the age was 63, mortality at 70,

get a life, go take a math course. it is critical. neil: democrats are doubling down, many of them saying we need to beef up social security, expand social security. obviously when it comes to that entitlement dino many people ball get the notion of being an entitlement but say what you will. the math doesn't favor its longevity. >> bernie is no fool but bernie is saying expand it. with what? come john. stepped up to the plate and be honest. if anybody can get up and they do nowadays can say it is a terrible problem but we can cure it without touching precious medicaid or medicare, precious defense and social security, get on your hind legs and say it is

a terminal logical inexactitude. neil: i understand that. one last thing. when you took over the debt commission to try to hammer out a way to address long-term debt did you have any idea that the president would just turn his back on a health food law? did you get a sense than that nothing was ever going to be done? >> when we did our work and turned the baby in december of 2010 he thanked us, gave us a pat on the back and headed to sumpter overseas but every single democrat did the same because we slaughtered every towel on the field. america got a lot of trouble but let me tell you, there is not a soul out there getting something from the state, federal or local government bitching every day about that government and getting something from it in the

form of but tariffs or credit or tax expenditure, give me a break and people say what you did, except for that one part, that one part they would kill for is what is happening out here. it is selfishness and greed beyond -- neil: always good having you, appreciate that. thank you, my friend. the hearing that was going on, empty chairs, they had a security threat, bomb threat, some sort of threat that emptied the room pretty fast but all this was meant to talk about the future of the t s a and whether it is dealing with the nation's security so just a metaphor of the times, the room is cleared out because the fear is for everyone's security. welcome to washington 2015. more after this. you are looking at two airplane fuel gauges.

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americans who have now health care coverage that they wouldn't have had before. mike lee on the administration now does have that backup that should shoot down subsidies. sounds like he does not. but what if the supreme court were to shoot this down, senator? >> i'm not sure where we go from there. but i do want to know neil, that it is with a bit of irony that president it been gauges in this type of court bullying i'm not sure what he expects to accomplish with this but overlooking the irony of the moment but there was a law that was unconstitutional and two suspects and for the supreme court's decision to rewrite it. not just once, but twice. a couple of years ago we wouldn't even be here. we wouldn't be dealing with this. so it is odd that he's bullying the supreme court again rather than -- for the law. >> bullying was a word but

condescending saying i don't know why they took the darn thing up paraphrasing here but telling nine that preside on cases that they're going to discuss that they were idiots for discussing or even taking this particular one up. so thinking about it might have ruled in fifer and announce that next sunday. he said let me see that decision again. then he heard his argument but appearing to condescending. >> i'm not sure that we heard it one way or the other but the supreme court by the time we get to june has already decided how it is going to rule. i think it is very unlikely that he's going to influence. >> rule in favor of the subsidies because if they're in favor this thing is a train that is well along the tracks, right? >> i'm not certain what it will. it was more like lie than not after the oral argument couple of monthing ago i flipped that prediction and now more likely

than not that the court leave this is issue alone. [inaudible] >> the subsidies if they know they can't do it. can't do it, then what? >> if you can't do that, then i think you're going to see a lot of republicans coming forward with some of the plans that have already been offered others right now. variations of which tried to replace obamacare with free market reforms, rather than re entrenching as a top down model where medical decisions are made by government bureaucrats in washington instead of patients and their doctors. >> senator thank you very much. i want to bring in my colleague kind enough to stay through the hour. >> can i say something first i want to thank him for all americans, enormous service he provided -- i had a chance to be -- >> from before? >> i had a chance to be with him and thank him in person. but i think these two men did an

enormous service. it was a thankless task. than god they have the courage to do it, and i think it had every changes skdzing through bipartisan effort. we all u have a serious problem. >> someone has to lead. democrat has to lead and health care for example, with subsidies thing, it is not shutdown. then it is fair to say that this health care law goes along and it is at that point? >> the court rules in the president's favor, i think affordable care act is with us forever. >> if the republican president 2017 couldn't -- >> it is very difficult to tell people we're going to take away that which you have enjoyed over a period of time years. i think it is, in fact, the court rules against the subsidies. i think the republican leadership in both the house and senate have a major problem on their hands. >> actually more damaging to them the potential. upon that -- >> absolutely if they don't fix it quickly, neil when the public

goes to the polls in '16 you can guarantee a democrat will be elected. >> but that is an interesting point. themen people for the most part think that republicans control both chambers house and senate. i've had recent meetings with republican senators while we can't do it because of closure. guess what, we control it. let's be creative. let's shut closure down right now, let's get all of these bills passed we have to pass. sound to the president let him do what he wants with it. put closure back in. >> so put him on record you voted against this but they're saying we tried. >> that is all. argument is we can't do that. it is unseemly welcome it is guess what -- the democrats for judicial appointments up to the supreme court did away with closure. all right. the american most american people if you stop them on the street, what is closure? what is -- i don't know what closure is.

all i know is that republicans are 54 senators, and other guys have 46, and where i come from 54 is more than 46. they understand that. they don't get the thing we couldn't do but saying that it doesn't matter. guys like me worked like hell last year to get a republican senate. and we're getting nothing for it right now. this is foolish. let's show some courage and creativity so imagination. this is i'll tell you right now. ultimate solution to all of this, term limits. you be amazed the other night from the senator well we cant do that because then staff will run the government. guess what then you're a weak senator i say iftion elected you wshts. you're doing what i wanted but not what you want me to do. >> let me jump back in here because the american people, the affordable care act that is voided by the court's decision. the american people are going to look for a quick remedy -- >> what are you doing?

>> what have you in the house and senate done? and if they don't do that, you know, a bold try if you will putting on a president's desk. you know, prior to last saturday no one remembered the name aladar but affirm the last triple crown win or i tried but i didn't succeed. i wouldn't have to run on that next time around. >> i agree. but you brought in the horse analogy here that could be regrettable if you think about it. you know. >> the thing of horse -- >> by the way, one of the companies i have an investment in bought the pants. do you realize a number of impressions all over the world. unbelievable. >> here's a glaingt is a lot more with both of these guys. of course he was brains behind home dee pow dirty little secret, he's not remotely ending. so he goes in like we go there. but what is this for? how great is this country? more after this.

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>> all right we're still under this, hearing this suspicious package found in a building where the hearing hearing of wag on. what happened. us in. >> turns out there's a phone call, a phone call was made to capital police or someone in the capitol about a suspicious package. capitol police have not identified or found or located a suspicious package. but out of an abundance of caution, capitol police ended an cleared hearing room homeland security committee hearing room on tsa -- practices ongoing here because of this phone call a law enforcement official tells one of our fox news colleague they don't put rei kre dense room but ousts office building cleared

out. >> in the peage time to the white house where they're expected to hear the white house backtrack from these comments. take a listen. >> we don't have a complete strategy because it requires commitments from a part of the iraqis as well. >> no strategy for isis -- nick back with me. no strategy. what do you think of that? >> tragic one of the greatest threats in the history of our countries and he hasn't focused on it yet. that is what no strategy means. we've got to have a plan. look, this is a serious, serious thing two things that scare me, terrorism, are you ready -- and this terrible gap between income we have to fix that. we have to fix the income inequality gap. >> first about the terror threat pressing right now. president was saying others have agreed that it is getting iraqis onboard what they have to do, that hasn't happened yet. and try as we might they don't

seem up to the fight. is there something to that do you think the message is that without them getting a handle on their own, we can't fix those? >> well, i think first and most importantly it is not just a problem for the country of iraq. it is a problem for the world, and for the president -- >> world is up. >> exactly. for the president even if we have no strategy, you don't announce that to the world. i happen to believe weft greatest military the world has for known. okay, and they have a strategy, the question is will the leadership from the political side allow them to deploy is tht strategy i think we're quickly growing to the point where the countries that are immediately effected geography wise in the region are going to have to come to a discussion that they're going to empower a private effort. i think there's an opportunity

here five to ten thousand private operators quell trained, well compensated to go in and end this stupidity. >> duke it is too late when the president might be saying is what john mccain said. waiting to hear in the white house press conference how they're going to take themselves out of this. but what he's saying is -- look i never was for being in this region. i was against not only getting into iraq but expanding beyond, and aiding all of the types, so i'm just going to bite my 18, 19 months and leave for the next guy. >> hold it for a guy that didn't want to be in the region he worked hard in 2008 to get to be elected president of the united states which automatically put him in the region. okay. look, we can blame plenty of blame to go around. plenty of blame. that question didn't embrace the iraqi generals and put them back in place. that we -- we did all kinds of

things to alienate the populous of the country, but that is the past. you can't -- >> blame game has to stop. >> we have to fix it. that is right. >> no longer about the renal neil, it is about an ideology that so wants to ends the american way of life. the free market if you will, democracy around the world that is a problem and world has to come together. we have great, great operators in and outside of the military, this group whether it is 40,000 strong or 60,000 strong, could, ever possibly defeat a well-trained well equipped, well financed army of 15,000. couldn't happen. >> guys going to take a quick break here another little surprise, the white house is expected to announce. all right i don't think this -- gentleman, but a new ruling on overis time. who qualifies for overtime up to 52,000 a year, that could affect

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>> all right we're hearing now credible threat, but it, obviously, was emptying out the room abundance of caution threat. talking about the tsa hearing thaftion interrupted by suspicious package or threats. bottom line it isn't a credible threat so maybe saunter back into the room. [inaudible] >> not so jaded. >> wait for me to do the interview. two powerful icons in the financial community. giants in new york and politics as well, we're talking about nothing the president wants to do overtime for salaried workers

that could affect a lot more than than benefit from a minimum wage. what do you think? >> little people get punished when they put the 30-hour rule in i mentioned earlier if we have a guy working part-time at home depot and worked 30 hours and had unexpected bill go to the manager say look can you use me another 8 hours if we need it we give them extra $8 no more. we've got the help we need on the floor. this poor man, these are the people who get hurt. >> count productive. >> another one of the sounds good sugar high it is that has a very, very negative effect. >> business on the short end of the pr stick here if they look like they're indifferent to people's needs. >> look at where home defoe created weft -- we have 3,000 kids. >> i'll say it again, we must address income inequality one of the biggest single threats. >> the idea you cough up --

help out here. come on. >> up to pay taxes that dunts work. >> or you're just cheap and don't want to help. >> say what you want about me. >> one thing you cannot call senator is giving to charity but i digress. >> look what wal-mart is doing this year spending $1 billion -- as education -- all right. >> upping minimum wage. i agree because it is if they were unions tomorrow, world would get awesome. [inaudible] >> you guys would. >> you're in the media what the -- >> you're a guest in my home for an hour and i love having boats of you but very rude almost like that varney guy. >> i love what varney did yesterday. he's my hero. [laughter] >> you don't like it -- terrible what they did. >> great american. i agree. >> he's from brooklyn. did you know that? >> varney. he has a phony accent.

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. neil: all right. i don't know where to begin with those two after they were here. but i think it's fair to say that not happy with matt. listen. >> if john believes that, i feel bad for john. she's saying things she doesn't believe in, then very frankly it's the johns of the world that allow these people to mislead us to get elected to do totally different than what they is they were going to do. this is what's wrong with politics. >> john is what's wrong with politics. >> no. i think people -- neil: you just trashed him. i heard what you just said. you just trashed him. >> john is my friend.

neil: oh, really? we were having fun there, but oscar like that former ceo of morgan stanley said even with all the bashing of which he is a prominent member, he still likes hillary clinton and he will support her for president because he doesn't think she believes that. that is not neuronal that kind of talk, but economist steve more says it's got to stop. what do you think he's saying? that kind of talk, that kind of acting. >> congratulations that was a great interview and i watched almost all of it. look, i think he's onto something. a lot of us don't know who the real hillary clinton is. is she a bill clinton moderate? if she's, that could be good for the economy. but no question about it has been hard left, you know, toppling the rich that businesses don't create jobs. and it's a mystery i think to a lot of people about who is the real hillary clinton. but the fact that she won't go

out there and talk in favorite of free enterprise and the entrepreneurship and talk about how important wall street and the banking system to our country instead of going out and bashing the rich, that's unsettling to people. neil: do you think that maybe it's a sign of our times politics has become, don't believe these can'ts either far to the right or democrats when they went far to the left to avoid the rebellian or this questions their party credentials. but this is so glaring and so transparency forming, it does make you think; right? >> well, first of all, this is what makes mourns cynical about politics, you can't believe anything that they say. and, by the way, one of the that things people are really looking for in candidates, and this is not a ideological

statement, they want someone sincere who mean what they say, and republicans and decembers are with both guilty and was this as you just said, neil, moving way to the right to appeal to the tea party voters that they have to win the primary, and then pivot back to the center and change my tune. i don't think that's going to work this time. i think people do want someone who is genuine and authentic. neil: i think if you're on wall street and somebody is talking about you're greedy or no good or some of your friends should go to jail. that might be the last party i supporter. >> you would think so. but, you know, what's so surprising is that there are so many people within, you know -- neil: yeah. >> where you are right now, neil, i will bet you that hillary gets more wall street money than any republican doe. neil: well, at this stage, i think you're right. >> well,. >> all right. thank you. . neil: we're always waiting to hear the response to the no

isis strategy comment, they got the president knee-deep in some concern of trouble with his own defense. we had former defense officials that says no strategy, even if you don't have one is a hell of a to thing admit to the world, but he acceptability admitted it to the world. what now? >> well, i don't know what now because, you know, frankly, neil, it's a hell of a a lot more dangerous to not have a strategy than to tell somebody that you don't have one. you know, this is the case that we've gone in, done things, not very much and it's not working. i mean you don't have to tell the enemy that you don't have a strategy. they can get that. and when you're looking at our so-called air campaign, we're flying something, like, 50 saudis a week when we're supposed to be -- if we're taking this sellers just, for example, and i think in 2003 when we were doing the whole iraq invasion, we're flying 1,000 saudis a day. so that kind of tells you where this thing is. the president doesn't have a plan. to me this really is not a serious fight and probably not

ours to start with. neil: well, maybe that's not so subliminal message here, and there are many americans that would agree. in the g7 can't come up with a coe inherent strategy and they always dependent on us, if those in the neighborhood can't come up with a strategy in deal of that, then why is it always on us? there are a lot of folks that agree with the president no strategy on our part might be a good thing. let them decide. you say "we" as the world undisputed leader should have one. is that the gist of it. >> well, my gist is really that we should have one, but not necessarily include us doing anything militariarily, we should have a strategy that, hey, guys, this is your fight, put boots on the ground, airplanes in the air, and get this group beat and they're a threat to you much more than us. neil: but they come on and the white house makes a statement, of course we're working on a strategy, we just don't know

what it is. they're not going to say that. so we have a game plan, they might avoid strategy, but they don't. so what can they say in the next few minutes that will ease concern that we don't know how to deal with the most horrific group of terrorists this world has seen ever? >> well, i think quite frankly we don't have a prospect of them coming up with anything. the g7 is not interested in it. the nato nations are not interested in it. they're not going to put boots on the ground and airplanes in the air, and that's what it's going to take. and if they're not willing to do it, isis is just going to do what it's going to do it. and we're going to have to face up to the point that standpoint at some point in time they are going to be a threat to us, and at that point we better act. neil: thank you. always good to have you on to clarify real concerns out there. and another concern is marco rubio. twice in the last week we've seen "the new york times" devote a lot of attention to

what seemed like unusual issues last week of course the speeding tickets and his wife left foot. and now reports that the couple has had financial issues over last few years, you name it. to media critic who really can't believe it, but i guess it is a sign that you're a threat if they drag all this stuff up. i'm just surprised how this becomes newsworthy. >> yeah. i think most couples -- neil: had these issues but your take. >> i think we've just done the perfect segue from one crisis to another. we just focused on isis, now let's get to talking about marco rubio and the fact that he's had four traffic inhibiting 18 years. i kid you not, neil, that's what's going on right now. "the new york times" first does that ridiculous story and then come up with another one. it has to do with marco

rubio's financial problems. this is what we learned in it. that he was a young man at age 28, and he, like, maybe everybody else had tribunals making ends meet. we learned he had a mortgage. we learned he had student loans. we learned -- and hold the press here that he bought a boat. and that's it. that's all we know. and the great thing about it was that that this story that was commissioned to with a financial advisor who called it a staggering issue -- and, by the way, he has no debt. that was a staggering issue. it turns out he's a barack obama supporter and the new york times never told anyone that. neil: chris christie who at the time was a rising party figure and by all means, the issue, but the balance be just as aggressive going after hillary clinton and her

finances and any of the other democrats rich or poor alike. but i just find it -- >> yeah. but the issue with finances. he has no issues with this. . neil: yeah, -- it's a negative mark did not have wealth and then to borrow after your 401(k). >> damned if you do, damaged if you don't. if he makes money, then it's going to be back, feds make money, it's going to be bad. but, neil, this what we saw in 2012. we've talked about it many times. my colleague and i burrito wrote a book on this. every single republican has a -- and this time they've got about 20 targets choose from, and that's all that's going to happen. and i think the public is on to it. and i want to repeat. 4 it traffic tickets in 18 years. . neil: i think i've gotten 4 traffic inhibiting 18 months. but anyway fluff about me,

marco rubio letting his kids play now, you said the rain, and if that's true, we are on it. we're also on netflix, that stock hitting another new high today, why exactly that's going on. >> well, it's interesting, netflix is an interesting company toecap, neil, for a number of different reasons, and one is the rising stock price and the other is brad pit. now, this stock has gone up 87% this year, but any time a company that has performance, you say what are you going to do next? well, netflix has already taken on and changed the way we've watched television and a movie that will brad pit is and using will start in the next year called the war machine. it will be released exclusively by net flex. they're going to put it in a few theaters, but have brad pit's no, i have netflix so another avenue for a company that's already doing good. neil: yeah, it was a good deal when spacey came in there and

now they're all coining it. >> very good show, by the way. neil: very good show. for a irish guy. in the meantime we're still on that manhunt that is underway here. but we've got the guy that knows one of the guy very, very much. very dangerous. and known for three decades what richard is up to, what he's all about. what he always knows that richard has a weakness. a daughter who he wants to reach out to right now. after this

neil: all right. oil is -- it's over $60 a barrel right now. it's up on at least concern in a good way i guess as the economy is picking up. gas prices ambling about 2.75 a gallon, ther there is a

drag on this sort of fortunately, but gas prices are up 11 cents over a month ago. still down about 90, 85 cents from what they were a year ago, but you know how does goes, gas quickly follows and forget about that trip with the kids. disagree with the exaggerating, the point. and sam's club, we're told that walmart is sniffing around, that these could be tossing stuffers, if you can fit in them, but they've gotten to be pretty good news. you're falling out of those. >> because there are not enough ways for for you to injure yourself or your loves ones over the holidays. let me give you a drone as a christmas gift. that's what's going on. . neil: everywhere. >> they are everywhere. it's becoming a legal headache in places across the country, i'll get to that in a second. so sam's club said that they found that this one drone they were selling online, it was nearly $100, extremely

popular, so we're stocking up over the holiday season. they're going to have a dozen drones priced from $100 to $4,000. the $4,000 ones come with a high def camera, and others, like, target. neil: who is buying them? to spy on neighbors? >> it's not just spying, spying is a concern, but enthusiasts, i played with a rocket growing up. neil: why. >> because rockets are awesome, and drones, you know. neil: what did she, you know, you care me on a lot of levels. >> rockets were great. neil: sure. >> with the little end of the . neil: yeah. understood. >> the issue is they are becoming so popular they are dangerous; right? you have them flying near airports, that's not supposed to happen. . neil: right? >> but you have 17 different states that have passed laws to govern rockets, the faa hasn't approved the commercial rules, you're looking at 28 other states looking at

legislation, it's a mess, i'm just saying have fun but if you come near me with your drone, i'm come to your house and driving through your garage door. neil: and someone did something like that with and now there's a big court over the it. we're going to talk about that in your portion. >> way to plug your show. you'll have the video and it's a big dude with a glitter take the report rocket. thank you very much. >> thank you, xoloitzcuintli meanwhile the manhunt is still on for those escaped conevicts who broke out of the prison, and what's interesting is that, david, in your case as a retired detective, you know there might be a way to get his kansas. explain. >> yes. richard loves the

glory, and he's going to come to a point in time where he doesn't what an to do. and if that time comes and a plea was made to his daughter, if you were to call his daughter and have his daughter turn him in, she could get the reward, and he's always said that he wanted to do something for her financially. that could be a way for him to come out. . neil: yeah, but -- obviously just worships his girl and, you know, pains him to be in jail and be away from her. so she might be an important link here, and somehow she could get an idea that she would be financially awarded that would help turn him in. he might do that. do you think earlier would or do you think that he's so bad, that this is a guy that i think he killed and chopped up a detective; right? he's not a nice guy. but this might be a link to get him back to where he was. >> absolutely. he -- i believe he's bipolar,

and there are good sides to him, even though it's hard to believe, the horrible things he's done, and the horrible things he's capable of. and i do believe he loves his daughter and if someone told him that she could turn him in, i believe he would do that so that she would get the $50,000 state reward and maybe he would even hopefully turn in his buddy. neil: where do you think they are right now? i know it's just a guess, with but where do you think they are? >> i wouldn't doubt if he was right in the city. if not, he's with some girl somewhere. he has a way with the ladies, and i'm sure they're taking care of him and my whatever. neil: what do you mean he has a way with the ladies? >> cleaned up he's a very handsome guy, and he really knows how to treat women, and he's always attracted women. he's just one of those

figuring. neil: and there are reports that he might have wood a female worker at the prison. do you believe that. >> absolutely. absolutely. she was some kind of seamstress i understand. neil: right? >> and she must have had probably physical contact with him as well as verbal. and as i said, he was a ladies man. neil: that's interesting. appreciate it. retired detective who knows this particular prisoner, the link to the other fellow on the lose, but, again, it would be worth considering and for authorities trying to contact that daughter, we shall see. thank you very much. i appreciate it. >> you're most certainly welcome. neil: all right. by now you've heard about this expanding i go nippings switch problem over at gm that first they thought maybe a dozen deaths were attributed to this, now it's supposed to be over 100. and now we're told that the government could be poised to

fine gm. big time fine. i'm talking toyota type fine. after this

>> we should be locked down stay in place. >> we're clearing the floor. >> we're clearing the floor, so if you could, exit as quickly as possible. >> all right. that was in the middle of that tsa hearing that was halted and canceled now for the rest of the day because what appeared to be a terror threat, a bomb square. it amounted to nothing, but they're not reconvening, and tom, the founder father of the tsa on what they had been learning prior to that. and a lot of people are arguing back and forth as you know, tom, that spending is the issue. we had center among others saying that maybe if we give the tsa more money, they wouldn't have been in this problem where bombs are not

being detected nine out of ten times in a test with security agents. what do you make of all of that. >> well, neil, i wouldn't to show you provide more resources at this point. what we've got here is an $8 billion agency or thereabouts, about 6 billion of that money is spent on what goes on at the checkpoint. 50,000 transportation security officers, the technology in all of that. i think that is actually plenty of money until we find out where the mismanagement is. why this is happening. what's wrong in the culture, and why there seems to be such widespread complains complacency. . neil: maybe we're having these agents chase too many threats. they would be making it a bigger deal and meanwhile the terrorists who they didn't realize it was working behind them, goes away. so do we have their priorities screwed up? are we having them chase the

wrong threat? should we get them to repriorities here? >> well, i think we should. we should have them look across our society and understand that we've become too complacent, and complacency affects the tsa, and what came out in the hearing today is you have a priority of keeping the line. you have a priority on filling up the precheck lines, expanding precheck, customer service is beginning the thing that we care about the most and we're moving too far away from the security priority. we see that management is based upon the performance standards of how many grievances do you not get and how many of these glee eeoc complaints down the get as opposed to those kinds of problems. neil: yeah, i don't know. i don't think they have to worry about customer service being something that they're doing a job with already or that it should be a concern because right now the customer service part does not seem to

be a priority for them. but i could be wrong. you're saying that we just have to look at how they prioritize their job period; right? >> i think you have to look at it the same way you would look at any other management problem. . neil: fair enough. >> we've got an agency we're paying $6 billion, the most of it is budget to try to conduct security operations and by all testing, all fair testing, it's not happening. we're getting too many prohibited items through, and we're -- lacks background checks. something is wrong in the management, and that's you don't need stop. neil: very well put, tom, thank you very much for taking the time. >> thank you. neil: and stressing concerning those ignition switches, it seems that the government is to get something more. >> yeah. wire fraud charges, that's what's on the table right now, the u.s. attorney looking into this. same level of charges brought against toyota in its sunday

acceleration issue. $1.4billion fine for toyota. they're determining what they would get out of gm. gm at a corporate culture of cover-up, that's the heart of this case that they're building and that gm effectively new back as early as 2003 about the ignition switch defect and covered it up and looked the other way. neil: so deliberately made misleading statements and that's a no-no. >> yeah. neil: trying to be as transpor transparent as we could, and that's after the fact. >> yeah. and making those misleading statements. so toyota paid 1.2 billion. that's the way wall street is looking at it right now. back in the day were criminally charged and led to the, you know, failure of those companies. but right now companies are paying massive fines to defer prosecution. cripple charge wow.

your company is going to be in trouble. that's not what's happening right now. we're in a new era right now of companies criminally charged but paying to defer the prosecution. neil: do you think it will stick. >> i think it will stick. gm has $25 billion on cash on the balance sheet, so that's what wall street is watching. the stock has been trading in the same territory it was over 10 years ago. it hasn't really moved in that trading range. . neil: chrysler, nothing. >> yeah, that's right. . neil: wow. already, thank you, liz. >> sure. neil: all right. when loud angry italian ceos start going after entitlements, it's believing a matter of time before ben stein reacts. ben stein is next

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>> 71% of the federal budget is entitlements. unless we address entitlements in america, we're not going to fix our problems. not going to do it getting older. living longer, sicker as question get older. who is going to pay for it? >> all right that was from ken, former home depot cofounder billionaire in his own right says he doesn't need social security doesn't want it. candidates who ignore severity of it are making a big mistake opinion ben stein hearted that will to react to that. what do you think, ben ?rchg one i rope republican party doesn't make an issue it have a sure fire loser. issue of the baby boom getting

older is beginning to stop. baby boomers are die and don't have to pay them social security anymore and people don't cut entitlement in terms of age old benefits or medical benefits where there could be savings in terms of the payments to intercity people poor people in rural yores. there's so much cheating, fraud in that that has to be stopped. fraud in medicaid but people are legally entitled to these things should not be cut -- large for anyone who works in any city will tell you. >> i think what they're saying is look at the math money coming in. number of beneficiary versus those paying into the system unsustainable, maybe not the guys here right now. but down the road that is what we have to do, because if we don't we run out of money. what do you say? >> we're not going to run out of money because federal reserve

print more money. >> anything, right? >> yeah, exactly right. all of the laws of economics have been turned upside down all of the things we learned in graduate school and economic school and government can print money all they want, and it doesn't create inflation. so all of that math is whrong, and they can prints money. now maybe in the long run that woapght be true. but for now it is true. >> for now the idea is that you're right. that it is holding a grenade hoping that it takes laibts f a little bit longer once they remove the pin. >> maybe not at all. >> might be right but the reality is that we're piling up so does ben stein think that we just ignore it? performance ben stein thinks we go after fraud in an aggressive way. thinks that people like me who is a tiny fraction of his wealthy as he is i don't need to get social security. i don't think we need to get medicare we can buy our own insurance but we're a tiny slice

of the population they deserve their social security, but fraughted is a giant issue neil, it is a giant superissue. >> slots say we were to address fraud and means testing part of it. would that be a step in the right direction? >> it is but there's nowhere big enough step to overcome deficits. the deficit started when our friend mr. bush whom i love and campaign for and loved a lot started cutting taxes and giant way. mr. clean ton who likes girls and i admire that about him, he put us on an even footing in terms of budget balancing. mr. bush -- tore that apart and blew it to pieces. now can we add raising tax we can if we want to. can we cut benefits elderly americans absolutely cannot. plul -- you say when bush cuts back bad thing to do. but if any candidate republican of the house talk about doing the same it would be right thing to do?

>> no, i'm saying when bush cut taxes politically popular, it turns out to be a fiscal disaster. tbhowt as much of a disaster as they thought it would be. now no one can talk about raising taxes, it just can't be done. taken the day off long together except they're wealthy people. republicans did that. we republicans did that. >> a lot of hands in the cookie jar. ben always a pleasure my friend. thank you. >> always a pleasure to see you. >> all right ben stein. meanwhile i want to let you know all clear on capitol hill unattended lunch cooler. thinking to myself that has to be a big lunch cooler i was nowhere near washington today. anyway -- all is green, all is fine. threat averted life goes on, more after this.

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if you think about lebron james, a big samsung spokesperson doing something else. >> love this story. because it confines business an sports and well stupidity all in one story. lebron james. >> patrick -- >> could have run with it. so yeah you're right so lebron has been with samsung since 2012 now celebrating the fact his team in is nba finals say let me get my teammates a present, an apple watch got him in trouble. >> but a comparable device? >> yes they have those wearable devices that they were ahead of apple with those. >> nah done this before. either he doesn't care. not thinking about it too much. and he did it with samsung in the past done it mcdonald's in the past he has a galaxy phone with samsung but went deeds on him once and he tweeted angry --

tweeted about that. so that he quickly deleted it. but then a funny story earlier this year with mcdonald's that makes me laugh one of the athletes endorsing mcdonald's. but he was and step there had too because he asked about his body and whatever seemed like nefs in better shape. but you know, earlier in my career i used to eat mcdonald's all of the time and then he ratessed someone asked howrch do you eat now? every morning i have my egg mcmurch every morning. getting out of here. >> getting rid of them right? >> of course not any time you can get lebron biggs name in sports. question is, you know, when you think lebron and business you think nike and nike is him in a lot of ways he's biggest name so curious when he fen doorses if he has the same effect. when people think of corporate sponsor an lebron james they

think nike i don't know if they know that he was with samsung but they do now. [inaudible] >> had a pretty good one. >> thank you very much all right white house briefing going on right now, and they have addressed its issue of whether the strategy for dealing with isis. take a listen. >> the president has been very clear with his team that we need to be carefully examining this strategy and refining and optimizing to capitalize on lesson it is learns of best practices. >> what? >> do you ever find yourself in a situation like this what would hercules do? especially knowing that i have kevin as my next guest known for so many things but prominently for playing hercules. a role they were going to give to me last second they thought better. where's kevin. he's the guy to do. good to have you and a real honor. we appreciate it. what do you make of this i know you have spoken about -- you know, america, this country,

our equipment commitment taking a bite to the bad guy that put you out of step with some. not all in the hollywood community but this has come back to bite the president a lot -- is he handling this right? >> it is amazing to me, you know, he comes out and says that we don't have any sort of strategy at all for defeating isis no strategy. it has been two years when does strategy take place? it is incredible we used to be the greatest superpower in the world. and to quote one of my favorites movies all greatest of the incredibles. incredibles said if somebody is super then nobody is super. >> that is very profound. very profound. you don't get one thing on this whole dust up here all kidding aside is if you don't have a strategy you don't have a strategy talking getting in sync in the world with the strategy -- on the strategy but it is pretty clear we don't know the strategy

that may be we're running out clock that is something else coming up with a strategy to give the president too who is never keen in being in this region of the world con vipsed getting involved more in the reefnlgt world. should we be surprised when he said yonts have a strategy, for dealing this region of the world. end of story. >> if you want to have a strategy i believe you can have. part of me thinks he doesn't care that is more sad to me. what are we going to do? i don't know. you look at one time before world war ii ranked 27th in the world of military strect we gets bombed in pearl harbor brings to world war ii not only do we fight a war over in the south pacific and japanese we fight against the nazis we were stopping both sides of the oppression and movement and what do we do after that? we went back to those countries and we rebuilt them and worked very hard to bring countries back to where they should have been prior to being oppressed by

nazis owned by powers of japan. what country does that today? no country does that today. only one that used to do that with any problem in the world. who do people call? they still call us yet falling further and further behind if america stopped doing that, ho is stepping in russians are you kidding me. talk about occupying countrieses that is what they do. look at putin right now. with the eye on ukraine look beyond that. look at the chinese moving up there with philippines and japanese as well from china. >> so changes, though, kevin if we were attacked like we were in 9/11 our sentiment and attitude could change but that is is what it would take. >> it would, but you look at everyone in what do they do to america? same thing that pearl harbor did unfortunately -- but don't want to see that happen again noshing that has to make us finally come together. i think some common sense and some brains and some pure guts comes to washington to start making a change that needs to be meads. >> kevin that is very, very well

put you have the hercules part and i didn't. but that is okay opinion i'm over it. kevin, but thank you very much. seriously i appreciate it. another guy who did not get that hercules role. i wonder why. charlie gasparino fight with millennials that is coming back to hit him right over -- it's a highly thercontagious disease.here. it can be especially serious- even fatal to infants. unfortunately, many people who spread it may not know they have it. it's called whooping cough. and the cdc recommends everyone, including those around babies, make sure their whooping cough vaccination is up to date. understand the danger your new grandchild faces. talk to your doctor or pharmacist about you and your family getting a whooping cough vaccination today. you wouldn't take medicine without checking the side effects.

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>> all right, this boomer press continues right now. now to views taking aim at our bitter boomers in "the new york post." i quote here look in the mirror before you bash millennials because she told us to stop it with wining about them wining,

julianne is here, and the bitter boomer questioner is here gasparino that you were trying to say is chai cloor lee is the winier. prchg not only winier but generation of moochers if you look at marine y'all compare hem to baby boomers -- you have it coming but if you look at everything from social security -- there[laughter] to pity. but i mean if you look at everything from social security to health care premium under obamacare to underpension liabilities this is something that millennials are picking up tab for your generation so i don't have a lot of patience for you coming on tv saying that we're moochers it doesn't add up. >> what do you think of that? >> see seems like a very young lady. i would say that question of to look at, you know, yes -- boomers, but who is putting boomers in charming it is

millennial who is want freebies, they want free college education. they want -- >> you're wrong on this, and -- let's talk about 2008. let's talk about 2008 -- if half of millennials had voted republican in 2008, your vngs generation supported obama dinner >>. >> a lot of fuss by percentage wise you're part of that obama coalition that is destroying the country. >> why making this specific? >> you're much more of that coalition than anybody. >> majority of boomers those voted for the president. >> yeah. but there's more. percentage wise. >> millennial. >> not just criticizing you for that but for a lot of things, and maybe you're the exception and jack fowler a good friend of mine your publisher over there says you're the exception. but you know -- >> not lastly. trashed her because she wasn't

here. >> i thought her column i thought i read it 15 other places no offense. i write some crummy stories. >> you are -- reporting. >> you're very nice, nice gal that column was very derivative. i read it all. 100 times did i need to -- [inaudible] >> patronizing. spoken down to you. >> i think i got extra twitter followers from that. >> i did too. you have -- >> twitter followers for me. >> give me a great gift with this. i don't think you're a nice man and i look forward to writing your obituary. [laughter] >> i take pride in not being a nice guy. i've been a jerk, listen read my playboy interview when people. >> i don't to. nobody reads that. >> they're getting it online because you millennials read

porn onis line that is why the foreign industry is so big. >> mind expanding drugs. >> listen -- what do you think mollies? >> i don't think anything. i think this is -- this is distracting, though, this is distracting from the fundamentals debate that we have beginning on which is your assertion millennials are moochers, irresponsible. >> not backing that up -- doesn't back that up. >> you don't have a good sense of humor either. >> one of the more boring segments that you guys ever appeared on fox business complaining about me. so boring, and -- >> one of the most -- [laughter] >> of course referring to me by the last name inconsiderate. >> one of the most livelyist thing is the twitter exchange you brought up the jocks yet again i don't understand your obsession with this. but also wrnght you saying this this was joe lewis tweet in

favor with your boston and you can't keep your boxers straight. >> listen i come from a generation that use jockstraps. >> look at the time. we have to go. we have to go. i want to thank you both. we have a wonderful door prize for you. commercial, commercial -- more.

>> i love having both of you but you're very rude. almost like that varney guy. >> by the way tell i love what varney did yesterday. getting a lot of reaction from the two new york city icons, financial giant both on what they think has to be done. and to turn this country around bluntly ed tweeting more going he makes for got t another from pauly tweets neil you get the big dogs to tell the truth with a great sense of humor at the same time. oh, get outside. anyway we're going to have a lot more reaction to that at 4 p.m.

and george comes by to say if you're supporting hillary clinton, because you don't think she believes any of the stuff she's saying about bashing banks under 1% what does that say about you? he's not letting go of this. that is coming up on your world eric bowling this boy doesn't stop walking in for trish. >> don't throw off the set don't ever do that. it gets to be hell in the green room if you do that. thanks neil. general motors justice department reportedly considering criminal charges against the automakers faulty ignition switches linked to 100 deaths. meanwhile mary bharara revealing fiat chrysler sents her an e-mail proposing potential merger and korgts "the wall street journal" sought help from some of the same corners of wall street associated associated wie takeover. the fox car report and fox business of jeff