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>> no. greece weighing heavily on the market. we'll look at the fed heavily next week. in the meantime, while markets wait for tomorrow. here's everything you need for tomorrow. the trade showdown on capitol hill. democrats delivering a stunning below to presidential obama's agenda. blake burman is in d.c. with the latest on this story. blake: hi, there melissa. the way forward is certainly at a halt for a moment. the president after an unannounced stop at the capitol, was unable to convince his fellow democrats to get trade legislation passed and on his desk. the white house this afternoon though was suggesting the failure here is temporary. josh: to the surprise of very few, another procedural snafu has emerged. these kinds of entanglements are endemic to the house of representatives. >> the president has been lobbying democrats
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for months to give him his authority. yet today, he did not even gain the support from nancy pelosi. now, it's possible this trade promotional legislative authority gets taken up next week. pelosi signaled in a letter to democrats this afternoon that tpa's future could be tied to a highway bill. several potential avenues are at play here, but for now, the vehicle driving the president's trade agenda is at a red light with the emergency brakes on. >> thank you so much for that, david. david: our next guest voted for both trade votes. charles joining us now from capitol hill. thank you congressman for being here. good to have you here. this is obviously defeat for the president. but my question is, who is now setting the agenda for democrats? because clearly the democratic party has lost a rutter hasn't they?
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>> this is a black eye for the president. clearly the democrats and the house are in complete disarray. nancy pelosi, the leader of house democrats is going to have to make a decision. is she going to side with her president and do what's right for the country in this instance and move the trade agenda forward, or will she tried with trump and labor unions. this is an ugly mess on the act of the democrats. they need to get their act together. this trade is vital for future growth in this country and prestige. we will see this coming back to the house floor. the president has to get to work. get pelosi in line and get these votes lined up. >> any idea which side hillary clinton is on? >> no, i don't. i don't know where she stands on this. this is a very big issue of national importance. she should weigh in on it. >> her husband famously took on the unions whether it was na naptha or
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other free trade agreement. will she govern more like bill than elizabeth warren? >> i think that's an outstanding question. and i don't know the answer to it. it's unfortunate the labor leaders are selling out american workers. american workers want access to these markets overseas. they want a level playing field. right now, goods can come into this country, but we have blockage in getting our goods into these other countries we're trying to negotiate with. we're trying to level the playing field and open markets for american workers so that we can sell goods and commodities into those markets. it's good for america. it's good for the american worker. i think the labor leaders have taken the side against the american work force. against what's in the interest of the country to grow our economy. (?) and this has broad geopolitical considerations as well. >> it does as well.
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congressman, we'll be talking about those coming up. i have to ask you about republicans. we'll be talking to mike huckabee who will be running for president. the question is whether you can convince him or other republicans who are against this free trade agreement that it's a good idea. >> well, i think everybody on the republican side of the aisle considering the presidency should be considering the trade agenda. this is vital. in the legacy of ronald reagan. this is republican policy. for those considering to take a side with labor unions, that's not a republican viewpoint. >> is it a deal breaker if there's a republican running for president who is against this trade deal? would that be a deal breaker? would that shrew exclude him for running under the republican banner? >> i think that would put a republican nominee in serious trouble. it's critical for the american party, this trade deal. it's best for this country. in terms of restoring
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american growth. economic growth, that is. job opportunities. and most importantly, american prestige abroad. it suffered too much. these procedural hurdles and bumps we're seeing with this hurt our prestige around ar around the world. people are looking. they're watching what the congress does. i for one, am not ready to relinquish our leadership in the global area. the leadership the united states helped to create. david: thank you very much for being here. and coming up, don't miss our exclusive interview with presidential candidate mike huckabee the former governor slamming the president's trade agenda. not all republicans are happy about his position. and uncertainty in washington. greece weighing on stocks today. the dow closing triple digits. the nasdaq wiped out its gains for the week. let's head to the new york stock exchange where our adam shapiro is standing by. >> david, that's right. the dow, the s&p, the
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nasdaq, all in the red. nasdaq wiped out its gains for the week. dropping 30 points for the day. let's talk about the losers. cisco. american express. in particular, intel, they're supposed to come to market to raise $15 billion. they had to put off their bond offering because of the uncertainty in europe, tied to what's going on in greece. the fluctuations with the euro. that was on hold. investors did not like that. there was no flight to safety, by the way. treasury prices were flat. dollar gained a little bit. oil closed down. dave, back to you. david: adam shapiro, thank you very much. melissa. melissa: two escaped murderers still on the loose now. the link between prison worker joyce mitchell and two escaped convicts in upstate new york is getting closer. prosecutors said she gave them a legal item. the manhunt has stretched now into the seventh day. david lee.
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david: that's right, melissa. this was a significant development. we heard from the district attorney today. he confirmed, joyce mitchell did bring into the prison a number of items that were contraband. he would not however say what those items were. the list of banned items in the prison -- joyce did not provide the inmates. that was the powered tools they used in the escape. >> joyce mitchell, based on our investigation has not provided power tools. she has not provided any form of power tools to either sweat or matt. >> a source confirms that mitchell did agree to provide the transportation for the two inmates, but at the last minute changed her mind. in another development, authorities are looking into the possibility of joyce mitchell also bringing contraband into
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the prison. he's described by authorities as -- and i quote now, a person of interest. meanwhile, a number of new clues are being looked at. authorities are looking at two sets of footprints found at a gas station near the prison. the footprints were found in the vicinity of an area where there are no foot paths. authorities have received more than 700 leads. they have the use of helicopters. more than 800 searchers on the ground. they have sniffer dogs.
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so far they have not seen the fugitives. they did tell us that the situation in his words could change in an instant. back to you. >> david lee miller, thank you very much. it's amazing. it will only be another 24 hours. here we are on day seven. >> it's a brilliant escape. i know they had a plan of what to do once they got outside of the prison. that's what's going on. no deal inside the beltway. democrats delivering a huge defeat to president obama. president's trade agenda failing on capitol hill. exclusive reaction from mike huckabee. moments away right here on "after the bell." >> talk about strange bedfellows. iran is helping the taliban in the fight of isis and afghanistan. you can't make these things up. >> the battle to raise the minimum wage. a dire warning. the pay hike will eat into restaurant's profits coming right up. ♪
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david: it has been a week now since news broke of a massive cyber attack in a federal systems. questions like who is responsible. the white house may have some answers. they aren't disclosing a lot. elizabeth macdonald has been following the story. what's the latest? >> the fear of government officials is that espionage is at the heart why china or another country hacked into personal management. the fear is that security clearances for these individuals. a lot of details on those forms. what's at issue is our very own doug asked the press secretary who else was hacked. how high a level did the hacking go? did it hit the cabinet level with cabinet secretaries, the fbi, and the secret service? here's what the press secretary had to say on that. take a listen. josh: and i know that there's a
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substantial amount of data that's maintained at opium. we'll see if we can get you details of what's there. we won't be able to discuss in much detail about which data or how much data may potentially be affected in this particular incident. >> so the bottom line there, melissa and david, is the fact that the press secretary does not know whether cabinet secretaries, the fbi, or the secret service were hacked. we're talking to cyber security experts. it's like when the plane crashes. you're trying to find the black box. they don't know how to hack a kurd as well. the government is fighting this one. they're on the attack of the federal agencies here. the biggest government union has been saying to the federal government, you have to let our government union workers log onto their private email accounts in order to fix their personal breach into their records. those emails, those cyber security experts have said also carry computer malware and viruses.
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back to you. >> very interesting stuff. thank you very much. melissa: what a mess. twitter shares falling back to earth. hitting a new low. the change in the -- is enough to get them back on the path on growth. jack, dick costolo stepping down. would you say he's a failure? only five years. >> twitter hasn't delivered on its promise. ultimately you have to blame someone for that. you have to blame the boss. this is a company that hasn't become more than a niche product. they haven't -- the growth in users is not what it should be. it's not what investors were expecting. so, yeah, i think you have to take the blame. it's time for them to try something new. >> the stock is down 20% since going public in september 2013. so there you go. meanwhile, creator jack dorsey is stepping up as interim ceo. will he stay on for the long-term. >> it's possible.
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jack dorsey is about minimalism and drama. he helped create the product. he's a cofounder. he has not addressed whether he would not be interested in the job. of course, piques everyone's interest that he could be. there are candidates that could be good. adam bane, he's the president of global revenue. he's done a good job taking revenue from basically zero to a little bit over it. melissa: something. >> (?) then you have the google senior vice president. chris cocke, the head product guy at facebook. also a name. he will be very hard to lure away, especially to a a smaller venture like twitter. just about 302 million monthly active users. >> this is from when you go from entrepreneurial ceo to needing the person who can carry it. what do you see for shares of twitter? >> they go lower. there is a bottom. there will be endless speculation of the company getting bought.
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the stock rocketed after hours. today, after open, up a few percent. it gave that back at the end of the day. people are seeing three to 4% user growth. that's half the rate a year ago. it could be a lot worse. why would he be leaving now? they could be giving up users now, some are saying. this is a company with a tenth of the scale of facebook. you need more scale to be able to vie for advertising dollars. twitter doesn't look to be heading down that path of gaining that scale. >> what about joe -- >> jack dorsey and dick costolo both said, we're willing to stay in this game. we'll entertain any offer that comes across the desk. they still think it should be operated as an independent company. it is a niche product, as you say. it's not that broad appealing product that would attract all the advertising dollars that they need because of the street expectations here. i'm sure there are lots of companies excited
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about what twitter can do. it -- which could be monetizable under a bigger umbrella. >> all right. absolutely. thank you so much. david: melissa denied after making a personal appeal to democrats. the president's trade agenda is in tatters. mike huckabee will give us his thoughts in an exclusive interview coming up. you don't see this every day, and you probably wouldn't want to, why this plane actually went vertical. you got to see this. you total your brand new car.
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several republican candidates have supported the trade bill. joining me now is mike huckabee. 2016 presidential candidate. and former fox news host. governor, thanks for coming. why are you against the free trade bill? mike: i like free trade. but i don't like trade that is only free for one side. since 99, our trade deal1990, this deal iskept moren any deal than in north korea is not the way america needs to do business. most of the people who are voting for this -- senator jeff sessions found many things that were problematic with it, including the governance of it. the fact that you lower the vote threshold down to a simple majority rather than two-thirds. there are many reasons that this is one more example where the donor class drives the political class at the expense of the working
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class. david: well, i understand the secrecy deal. a lot of people are against that. both republicans and democrats. in terms of whether or not trade deals have been good for the country, we have stats that differ very dramatically. our exports to trade pack countries rose 64% since 2009 until 2014. the rest was 45%. so we actually do better economically when we have these trade deals. mike: we've seen a big loss in american wages and american jobs though, david. 5 million manufacturing jobs lost since 2000. 60,000 manufacturing plants closed. american wages stagnant for 40 years. we haven't enforced the trade deals on both sides of the bargain. we have allowed our trading partners like china and south korea and japan to manipulate currency so that it hasn't always been good. david: well, again, governor, you mix in a lot of things. i agree there's been a
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lot of currency manipulation here as well with the federal reserve board. we're against that. but, on the other hand, there's been a technical revolution that has changed the way we do business. it's not just the trade deals that has led to a loss of jobs. mike: no, i think the tax deal is another. i support the fair tax. putting the tax on our consumption, it levels the playing field for all kinds of jobs. and we should be spending our political energy on getting the fair tax passed. getting rid of the irs. changing the regulatory and the litigation environment of america rather than pushing a trade deal and giving president obama more power. david: again, i understand the power bit. as i said before, the deals, the secrecy of the thing, the president loading it up with stuff that doesn't have to do with trade, like climate change. but the idea of free trade, we just had
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congressman bayou bustani on. on the trade portion, he's very bothered. i asked him whether your being against the trade deal would be a deal breaker for him as far as you being the g.o.p. candidate. here's what he had to say. >> i think that would put a republican nominee in serious trouble. i think embracing a trade agenda is critical for the republican party. it's a legacy of ronald reagan. it's best for this country in terms of restoring american growth. david: how do you respond to that, governor? >> well, ronald reagan would have enforced the trade agreement on both sides. i don't think he would have allowed the chinese to dump huge amounts of steel. decimating the steel industry in this country. and furthermore, if it's such a great deal for the republicans, how come almost 70% of the american public is opposed to this trade deal? if it's this good, how come you have people as disparate as the unions
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and phil united in opposition. (?) i don't think anybody says jeff sessions from alabama is the liberal. david: it has made the strangest political bedfellows that i've ever seen both for and against it. >> but who is for it? largely people who admit they have not read the bill. i find that very problematic that republicans who chided the democrats for not having read obamacare would now go and vote for a trade deal that they admit they haven't gone to the secret room to read. david: nevertheless, some are doing it. and some would oppose you as g.o.p. nominee because you're against it. we appreciate always talking to you. governor huckabee, safe travels. mike: great to talk to you. melissa: the first word from president obama on his trade deal failure in the house. in a statement, he's urging the house to pass a fast track trade bill
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and a trade adjustment act as soon as possible. about 100,000 workers will be hurt unless the house reconsiders and votes in favor of the trade adjustment aid. well, coming up, the staggering price of war. a new report on the billions spent in america's battle against isis. plus, hillary is set to hit the streets of new york for her first official campaign rally. wait until you hear who the star of her speech is going to be. ♪
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♪ melissa: the mounting costs in america's war against isis. we have spent more than $2.7 billion since bombings began last august. $9 million a day just in case you're breaking that down. this as we learn that the obama administration is looking to add bases and troops in iraq to fight isis. here with more is christian whiten former state department senior adviser and president of the hamilton department. and chris. chris, let me start with you. we're hearing more details with this. what they're calling the lily pad strategy. there are different outposts to support on the ground. sounds like mission creep. at the same time, it seems like people are needed on the ground in order for this to go better. what do you think of this decision, chris
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harmer? >> it is mission creep. we have guys in the combat situation. personally having spent a lot of time in iraq, i don't see a difference between advising and combat. there's no useful distinction except from a policy perspective. in terms of the efficacy of how you fight isis, we have to set up lily pads. the iraqi security forces aren't up to snuff. they've been defeated every time they've gone up head-to-head with isis. if we want to defeat isis or significantly contain them, we'll have to put more troops. that lily pad strategy from a military perspective will work pretty well, i think. melissa: will it, or is it not enough? it's like getting into ice cold water very slowly. rolling out bit by bit by bit. in many ways, are we setting them up for failure? >> yeah, i think that would be a recipe for failure. a couple billion, $3 billion is not a lot by military standards. it is a lot if you're wasting it. we don't have a strategy
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to defeat isis. that's not even our announced intention. he just don't have the factors in place there. there's nothing approaching anything like what we've had with the surges. where the sunnis were ready to turn against the radicallist. the white house maintains that this is a unified country. (?) it's really three different countries. until we give the sunnis something to fight for, they won't risk their life, to replace that set of tyrants with another. it's not something you're hearing more and more from the region. even some democratic congressmen are saying this now. tulsay, representative of hawaii basically saying we need to take that approach. melissa: we're seeing worrisome reports that they are supplying them with cash. the us is considering a nuclear deal with iran. chris harmer, let me start with you on this story. we say iran is a state
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sponsor of terror. they're working exactly against the -- the president is trying to exit this area. they're propping up the taliban as they would be otherwise collapsing. they're trying to make a deal with them at the same time. how do you sort through all that? >> well, there's not a lot to sort through here. it's not as if anybody is surprised that iran is a state sponsor of terror. there's no secret. they've been a state sponsor of terror for 30 years. in terms of the nuclear deal of iran, i've been consistently opposed to any nuclear deal that rationalizes their ability to enrich uranium. we can say we will place restrictions on uranium. as long as they have the ability, the technical ability to enrich uranium, they have all the other aspects required to turn this into a weapon breakout scenario. i'm opposed to that deal. iran supplying the taliban is evidence they're an international state sponsor of terror.
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melissa: what should the president's response be today, given all this? >> we should kill isis and destabilize iran. if we're going to fight and it's worth putting us troops on the line, we should fight to win. american people will be generous if the president has a strategy. we will be willing to pay any price. we need to kill isis. it's an evil army. getting worse by the month. iran is pushing on open doors. it's not just with the taliban. it's in yemen. it's in lebanon. it's in iraq. it's throughout the region. it has two proxy armies on each of the borders, north and south, with hezbollah -- we need to push back. not give it access to hundreds of millions of dollars. but by supporting dissonance within iran and pushing back with various things throughout the region. >> thank you very much. >> meanwhile, a few other stories on our radar. american'snetamerican's net wor,
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nearly $85 trillion. new record. new report from the fed. the reason it's so big. the gains are driven by rising home values and that booming stock market. have you seen this? a boeing 787. look at this, coming straight up. this is a vertical takeoff. >> that's amazing. >> it's a tease for the plane's appearance at the paris air show next week. this is the new 787. boeing's latest state-of-the-art plane. capable of traveling nearly 10,000 miles before it has to refuel. and finally, back on the ground, ditching his benz, humble pope francis taking a step closer to fitting in with regular folks. a hyundai version of the pope vehicle. from the higher priced mercedes benz that has been preferred by prior popes. >> he's not fancy. he's one of us. pope francis, he's one of us. >> he's still one of us. >> however he travels, i like him.
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why the operator of several applebee's franchise is shrugging off the minimum wage. more on the slap of fellow democrats on the president's trade deal. what comes next as the house prepares for yet another trade vote? we'll fill you in on the details next.
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♪ >> breaking update on the search for two escaped convicts. vermont state police saying there is no evidence that the men are in vermont or ever went there at all. they have followed up on 28 tips so far. all coming up empty. the search for the two men wrapping up its seventh day. they used power tools to break out of prison just 30 miles from the canadian border. david. david: these guys are hard to find. presidential candidate mike huckabee just sounding off moments ago, the president's stunning defeat of trade. the panel for more reaction. james freeman.
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rich lowry. and fox news contributor. and democratic strategist, jessica with show and consulting. thank you for being here. jessica, big question, what side is hillary on? is she for this trade deal or against it? >> i think. i'll have to go the bernie sanders way. it's a cop-out not saying anything. i think she must be against it at this point. she was an architect of this to begin with. david: she was an architect of it. we have to remember, her husband, bill clinton, when he was president went against the unions in favor of several free trade agreements. is she more like bernie sanders or like her husband, bill clinton? >> i think fundamentally she's more like her husband. david: well, not on this issue. >> we don't know. maybe we'll find out tomorrow. i think it's a bad idea to side with obama over her husband in terms of how she's running this campaign going forward. david: what we do know about mike huckabee is he's against it.
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he's not in favor of many free trade agreements. we just had him on. we were talking about ronald reagan and whether or not he would be -- because he was a big free trader whether he would be in favor of it. mike: if it's such a great deal for the republicans, how come almost 70% of the american public is opposed to this trade deal? david: how will the split in the republican party work out? >> huckabee is in the minority. fifty or so republicans voted against it. that's not a lot. i think the secret nature of the deal itself allows both the left and the right to project their worst fantasies and suspicions and paranoia on to the underlying deal. that's part of the problem. david: james. >> there's really no secrecy. the bill they were debating has been available to everyone for a long time. if after this, a trade agreement comes forward, the president has to put it online 60 days before he agrees to it.
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then after that, congress would agree -- david: a lot of stuff in it doesn't have a lot to do with trade, like climate change. >> the problem is -- we'll see after -- okay, the bill that's being debated now, which is public. david: yeah. >> once that enables a trade agreement, we'll see what it is. >> the bill itself is available. but it's locked in a room somewhere. >> and it's also -- >> the underlying trade deal. that's what people are -- >> okay. a negotiation happens. so people go back and forth privately. and then they come out and they say, here's the deal. david: hold on. let me just -- excuse me. gentlemen. let me let the women in here for a second. >> i wish we had time for a time-out. david: we wait for a couple of days, if not weeks, and bring this up once the issues about secrecy are resolved. >> i don't think that's
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possible. the tpa bill will come back on the house on tuesday, as far as i understand. there isn't any time for obama to wait on communicating how he sees what the deal is and what it will bring to americans. that's the problem. he hasn't articulated why -- david: hold on. hold on. if the secrecy issue is resolved, if the whole thing is put out there, would you then be in favor of this deal? >> no. i'm in favor. politically both sides have hit because of the relative secrecy. this is how the process always works. i agree with james. we find out what the final deal is after you vote for it. it's no doubt it's hurt it politically. david: thank you very much. melissa over to you. melissa: a new warning over the fight to raise wages. a 10.10 minimum wage will hit profits of restaurants by 4%. here is zane. the chairman and ceo of apple metro which operates applebee's in
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the metro area. you're operating in this business. does that margin sound right to you? >> it did. it sounds about right. you know, i'm not really sure. it's all projecting into the future. here's what we do know. we know that any ceo, myself as applebee's, the woman at general motors, ge, whatever, the single most important job of any ceo is the deployment of its assets. where it gets the best return and maximizes its value. whether i'm building restaurants or they're building new plants or they're going offshore. if you raise one of these components that contributes to your deployment of assets, i.e. labor to a level where it's beyond what people don't understand -- what politicians don't understand, that employers have alternatives. we have approximately 4,000 people. i'm desperately concerned about all of them. all of them. but there are alternatives.
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technology is an alternative. cutting back on generally in terms of your people is an alternative. offshore, if you're a manufacturer, we've seen that dramatically. we just heard that early on -- is an alternative. melissa: the technology you mentioned. applebee's, we've heard about using tablets on the table instead of wait people. is that something you would do more if wages rose? >> well, if i had an option, which we have. applebee's has signed a contract about a year ago, two years ago, we did not. we refused to do it. if we get to a point -- melissa: why did you refuse? >> i refused because i thought that our business, our space really needed to have the service component and not be so sanitized as using a tablet. having said that, having said that, i'm along with the cbo, congressional budget office, that people will lose jobs. cbo says there will be at least half a million
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jobs lost. so for people who get the increase. that's just wonderful. for people that's unemployed, think about that. i'm not really -- i don't think that's a good tradeoff. in addition, we lose these entry-level jobs, which is getting on the escalator of life, if you will. you learn how to get up in the morning. you learn how to talk to people. you learn people skills. and you move on up. we're taking all that away. we're hollowing out people. we're moving people toward government dependence. i.e. you look at the government for your health care. you look at the government for your wage increase. there was a time -- and i'd like to think, still is -- where you increased by your skills. by your will. will or skill. and here's our problem: we have people in washington, we have people in new york city, we have people in los angeles, who are flying this airplane by a manual. and i don't know about you. but i don't want to get on a commercial jet whose pilot it's the first time landing. he turns the page.
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landing, landing. none of these guys have been on the ground and had to worry about a payroll. these guys are flying a plane with passengers, with passengers, which is our workforce by manual. >> zane, i hate to cut you off. you're saying wise things. i appreciate it. i hope you come back soon. >> i understand. i understand. >> over to you. >> zane needs his own show. he's magazine. we love him. lori rothman with a look at what's coming up the next hour. >> coming up on "risk & reward," no one loves going to the doctor and getting a shot. right? those days may be ending. the inventor of a needleless vaccine. one step ahead of the hackers. the new technology banks are using to try to keep credit safe. looking to break it off with your loved ones, but hate confrontation. breakup beans. we'll explain. tell you all about them next hour. >> wow. >> thank you very much, lori. >> good tease. good tease.
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hillary takes to the streets to kick off her first campaign rally. she's drawing on some maternal inspiration to pick the star of her speech. we'll be right back.
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>> new yorkers get ready. hillary clinton is set to appear at a campaign rally tomorrow. she's looking to her late mother as her inspiration to kick it all off. showing voters a sort of side of hillary. veronica dagher of the wall street journal. joins us. so she tries this back in 2007. she had an ad that included her mother. her mother had a tough upbringing. i guess she was abandoned by her parents when she was 14. sent to live with her grandparents. she worked as a housekeeper to pay her way. she's weaves that in. veronica, what she's
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dealing with is a likability problem. this is her mom. i don't know if it works for her. >> there will be questions about it. you feel bad for the mother. what she went through. some voters will think, what does this have to do with the presidency? how is this going to affect her performance as a president in the future potentially? i think she's trying to appeal to the human side. go to people's emotional brain, rather than their rational brain. appeal to that middle class folks. a lot of the middle class people will hear this and say, what does your mom have to do with my issues of undergo to, lack of wage growth, issues with my student debt? melissa: jessica what do you think? more relatable, more likable, how does she do that? >> i'm not sure. i think using her late mother's memory is important. it shows a human side so far as that. she can talk about a lot of causes that are important to her. like defending children. gender equality. education. et cetera. i think this election will be about policies.
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and hillary needs to be talking about her policies more than the american omemory of her mother r any other family issues. they know who hillary clinton is. at least they feel they do. 52% are calling themselves independents. she needs them. she needs to tell them why her policies will work for them. melissa: we're talking about people in the margin. almost every person out there has their opinion about her one way or another. you think how she will vote on things. you think you know what person she is. you like her or you don't. how does she inspire that last person on the margin to go out and vote? >> it's hard to redefine yourself. melissa: impossible. >> it's always good to talk about your mother. hi, mom. how important mothers are. republicans went through this in 2012. constant debate about how mitt romney was going to humanize himself. melissa: it didn't work. >> when you have a candidate that needs to humanize themself, it's not self-evidently
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obvious how -- >> i think mitt romney was a lot worse than hillary clinton was. i'm biased towards her. but, i mean, yeah, i think binders full of women. hillary hasn't made comments like he did. >> the clinton foundation is the number one example lately. benghazi. lack of emails from her tenure as secretary of state. so many things that voters will want to know about and know the answers to. that's her -- her talking about her mother doesn't have anything to do with it. melissa: we'll leave it there. thanks to all of you. david: facebook unveiling the new oculus rift. three years after a prototype made its debut. it will go on sale early next year. no word on a price. oculus said when paired with all the pc needed to run the headset, it will sell for about 1500 bucks. we'll see it if sells.
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>> we have a breaking update on the search for the two escaped convicts. a local sheriff saying he's been told the prison worker joyce mitchell is set to be arrested and arraigned tonight. clinton county sheriff dave dabro saying this will happen within the next two hours. the charges unknown. joyce mitchell helped the men escape saying one made her feel, quote, special. >> geez. special. pauline just celebrated her 100th birthday in pennsylvania, she's spilling the beans to living a long life. it's not eating or exercising, a little bit of booze! drinking alcohol. >> i love it! >> a man credits his longevity
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to drinking one beer a day. you know what that means. >> it's happy hour right now. >> i'm going to live 200 years, i have at least two beers a day. >> that's fantastic. >> that does it for us, have a great weekend, here's lori. >> cheers, dave and melissa. as data breaches become almost daily news, things are embracing technology to try to protect you. the days of needles at the doctor's office could be a thing of the past. and a new risky investment trend in the tech world has some saying a bubble. another bubble is here. "risk & reward" starts right now. . >> and warm welcome, everybody to "risk & reward." i'm lori rothman sitting in for deirdre this afternoon. here's a look at our top stories. major breaking news out o

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