remember you can take it with you. right now lou dobbs, the best in the business right now on fox business. lou: good evening i am lou dobbs, a national debate on whether confederate flag is a symbol now of division, and hate and oppression has been building for days in the wake of the charleston church murderers, but big business took action to resolve the issue of the confederate flag on its own. as a result, flag appears to have been rendered a civil war cart fact is now headed to -- artifact is now headed to dust bin of america's history. retail businesses have announced they are banning sale of

confederate flag merchandise from store shelves and web sites, walmart ajohn a-- amazon ebay and sears among those. and those demanding the removal of aye confederate flag. where it has flown for 15 years at a for confederate soldiers. the debate quickly moved beyond south carolina. fox news senior national correspondent john roberts has the report. >> bring it down now. >> reporter: at a rally outside of south carolina state capital leaders and politicians gather to urge them to remove the confederate battle flag from

capital grounds. >> there are hate groups that take this flag as an emblem of their hatred. >> reporter: a measure was introduced to allow hem them to consider removing the flag. >> for south carolina's future, our economic future, and our ability to move forward as a state, in a productive fact we have to cross the threshold of removing the flag. >> reporter: debate over confederate symbolism has spread beyond south carolina borders virginia governor banished flag from specialty license plates, walmart, sears amazon and ebay removed them from web sites, and valley forge stopped making the flag, and in mississippi, republican speaker of the house called the confederate symbol oc offensive the flag may be just the beginning in tennessee

lawmakers' to remove a bust of confederate general and ku klux klan message from the state house, in texas joaquin castro is backing students who want to remove confederate statues including one of jefferson davis at university of texas campus in austin. in baltimore people debated whether the stat a should stay. >> i think it is fine, it is part of my heritage. >> this is a time for us, to reevaluate our monuments. >> reporter: in washington d.c. maybe confederate statues in the capitol building under scrutiny. harry reid telling telling fox news, moving one or more something to think about. senator gramm disagrees saying that the idea of rewriting who we are as a country is difficult at best, but a confederate flag is a good place for consensus. lou: thank you john.

>> on capitol hill, president trade agenda survived a key test. the republican control senate voted 60-37 to advance president's bid for so-called fast track authority to negotiate international trade deals, that means legislation will likely pass when a final vote is taken tomorrow, 13 democrats had to join with republicans to advance the bill, in what majority leader mitch mcconnell called a huge win. >> of all that we've been able to work on, on a bipartisan basis during obama years, this is probably the most significant accomplish am for the country. lou: 5 republicans voted against it. the united states has a long standing policy we do not negotiate with terrorists. but president obama is changing

that. president obama is expected to announce tomorrow, that new rules that would make it easier for families move ans to negotiate -- hostages to negotiate private ran pry ran shop payments. they will no longer face threat of criminal prosecution for doing so or paying a ransom. u.s. is sending major military equipment overseas to detour russian threats sending about 2 theft tanks 1200 armored vehicles and self-propelled howitzers to sites in bulgaria. carter speaking in astonia said that the move will allow nato allies to train and stopped more quickly to any aggression by russia or terrorist groups. >> when president obama visited here in september he said to the people of estonia i quote you lost your independence once

before with nato you will never lose it again. that is because the united states and the report of the nato alliance are absolutely committed to defending the territorial integrity. justs we're committed to defending all nato allies. lou: defense secretary's announcement is a day after he fledge u.s. weaponry, aircraft, and forces as needed for nato rapid react force. another scandal for secret service agency, this time a secret service officer had his gun stol en from his car after he parked it outside of his girlfriend's house friday night in washington.

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lou: president obama using the charlestoncharleston -- charleston church massacre to preach tollerrism in many people personally don't know someone who is muslim. they hear about muslims in the news. >> president will deliver a eulogy friday for reverend pink pink ni. joining us, is jackson berb

upgraded to have you about us. >> president claiming we're unwelcoming to muslims. the president says that racism is in our dna the president delivering a eulogy friday. >> i have to say i wish this president would 11 from people of charleston -- would learn from the people of charleston, they have been gracious, loving, forgiving, and christian in their response to what happened. who could imagine how you would stopped to a tragedy like that when your loved ones are taken

by a violent killer. having said that, what in the world does that have to it with islam, and america needing to be cured? we're sick now? we think year sick. hillary clinton said, this is not isolated -- it is. it does not happen all over the country. we got to deal with the retal -- reali of who we are. lou: we are a great people, i believe dr. keith ablow. shared a to me a thunder clap of a revelation he analyzes president's motivation for making a statement about this country. for castigating us all he said this president finds his power in the country's -- in claiming racism in claims that we're

notticexceptional, finding fault with us as a nation, he finds his power in that, i thought that is a horrible thing and we're putting up with it because we elected him president. >> you never heard him say islam needs to be cured. hes ised that is not -- but one incident then all of a isn't this is authentic america and america needs to be cured? this is sad someone so successful in our great country does not have a better vision, and understanding of who we are as a nation. he went to harvard law school, so did i, i think he drank the kool aid i did not. lou: god bless you. you know, the great thing about this country is we produce a senator like lindsey graham doing the right thing today saying in my opinion saying time to take the flag down from state capitol.

but he has bp a senator from south carolina for a long time he just discovered that flag, what it means to some people, this flag has become to me a shiny object. no question, it is time it is going to be consigned to the dust. and south carolina haley has seen to that for this -- i don't know this political conversion that we're watching here on the part of so many people, that flag has been around a very long time, for them to suddenly find out it is a object for some of great offense. >> it was politically untouchable for a long time, now it is politically touchable. this may be a moment saying look everyone who flies that flag is not a history it is a part of our history. it does not need to be a symbol

of our government. our government is supposed to bring us together. i love the american flag that is what should be flown over the state houses and country. lou: i will tell you something that occurred to me today as quick as some have been to express griefence at sight of that confederate flag, i have seen very few people express their appreciation, gratitude to that great american flag, you just referenced for freeing those slaves, and the 350,000 americans who gave up their lives to free slaves it is too often a one sided expression of emotion not always the best emotion that is expressed. >> lou only one nation that ever existed is proud of its founding all men are created equal. my ancestors were slaves but they became heir to his wond

wonderful words, that is something to celebrate, that is what unifies us, my organization motto one nation under god not a nation divided by race, culture and class, but one people. all fighting for same values. lou: would be a joy if this president had a epivny about that. >> we're praying for it. lou: again a men, thank you so much. >> vote in our poll do you believe nfl should lift 4 game suspension of tom brady? not the burning issue of the day. but there are so many heavy issues we thought we would take one of the small fragment of the audience on a day we have so many issues. we'll continue with those, cast your vote loudobbs.com, coming up an author of a report that blows holes in that nfl report to brady it is amazing.

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lou: u.s. and chinese officials meeting in washington dc for talks about cyber security to chinese aggression in south china sea. about 400 chinese officials are taking part in the talks. 400. hosted by secretary of state kerry. treasury secretary jack lew and vice president biden will be there. this morning saying they want to find areas where both countries could familiaring it beside cyberspace. >> this is not lecturing we do not fear china's rise.

we want to see china rise. to continue to rise in a responsible way that will benefit you most. lou: just looking out for the chinese, how nice of him. some might argue he could have been more forceful about the largest ever cyberattack against the u.s. but that perhaps -- well unrealistic in way of expectations. a few thoughts, on those massive chinese cyber attacks we learn today from national security that number of people afebl affected by the cyberattacks could go as high as 30 million. including job applicants and references. don't blame the obama administration. they say clearly they don't know what happened or how.

but the head of the office of personnel management, agency, that was attacked doesn't what everyone who works for this administration that been taught they know and said today to congress, no one is responsible. >> no one is personally responsible. >> i don't believe anyone is personally responsible i believe we're working as hard as we can to protect the data of our employees. i take it seriously. >> wow. she does. but no one is personally responsible. it would shock those people to learn most people are paid to be successful at their jobs, no matter how sincere or emotional they are about it. they are still held accountable when they fail. let ming is suggest a list of folks, department of homeland

security. that is a good place to start. they are not securing the homeland. nothing is secure when secretary johnson is in charge. they should change the name of department from homeland security to something like, how about welcome wagon across your borders when you want, take our federal government servers out for a spin when you want. how about firing heads of fbi nsa, cia as well? what are they doing? how is this that china can do as it wishes with our servers and data on them? secretary johnson, homeland security department, briefed senate on cyber security this afternoon. a long side, the director who said no one is responsible. that must have been helpful.

what benefit i ask are these folks to our national security? what did the national security council? just yesterday white house acknowledged it is downsizing the national security council. i guess because the president thinks these are just jv hackers at work, all this part of his legacy. and how about private sector where are they? the quotation of the evening from ronald reagan. >> who said, we must reject the idea that every time a law is broken society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker, it is time to restore the american present. that each individual is accountable for his actions

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lou: recapping top story a nationwide push to ban the confederate flags in government building retailers also joining in saying they will stop selling confederate flag merchandise. >> a severe weather system hitting midwest and northeast tornado destroying homes in iowa illinois and michigan. >> tom brady appealing his 4 game suss -- suspension. nfl gave brady 4 hours to appeal his case. he has not been scenics iting nfl headquarters, i will talk with -- with a man who coauthored a report that throws nfl's case, in particular the wells report, in to question. joining me, art lapre.

great to see you and the economy is doing well? housing picking up. we're seeing a lot of strength in this economy. you must be delighted. >> i am, it is picking up from a very low base. we have a long way to go. this is a first step. lou: and at the same time, fast track authority has been given president article 1 section 8. house overcome contusional principles and giving fast track authority to president at same tie they sued him in federal court for abuse of his executive authority. would you reconcile for us -- >> sure. lou: that little minor contradiction. >> it is not minor there are so many concenter ticks con-- contradicts

in washington. lou: just that one. >> fast track authority lasts for 6 years. lou: can i ask you what makes you think that any of us draw comfort from the fact that a republican president would have that authority? this is part of the imperial presidency la this is what american people should be constraining not advancing. >> the congress still has right to vote up and down. lou: that is so generous, they don't need that amendment. >> thing well from ses you may be right -- legal process you may be right we do need freer trade, we disagree on that. >> we need what? >> freer trade.

nontariff barriers. >> what is the most concerning trade barrier that exists to you in say china. >> in china you know, i think currency manipulation is. but in china -- >> we have been complaining about it for 12 years. >> we have not fixed it. >> what makes -- why would we think we can fix it now with mexico? because, we have been since 1993 in a free trade zone with them. yet, their human rights abuses rise to level of malaysia, why should we think that is a -- >> well,. lou: 250 too china's hegemonic power in the region. >> let me ask you a question. lou: you might as well you you are not answering mine. >> well, it is hard to answer, you -- >> you don't, you are right why should we worry about workers.

>> we should worry about worker. lou: wait, i am confused. because if we're -- >> i think so. lou: yeah. >> just saying. lou: if we offshore production, and offshore jobs of american middle class workers and outsource the jobs 3 1/2 million of those jobs. >> yes. lou: you know, that is how trade affects us. >> let me, if i can just one sentence. lou: can i ask a question. >> sure. lou: do you concede trade deficits slow economic growth? >> no, i think that trade deficits are a clear sign -- the way we get capital. lou: you don't see a correlation you don't think there is an impact on economy growth. >> i think that trade -- >> no impact on saving rate. >> i'm having difficulty getting the answer out. lou: i apologize. >> you know, we were in tact cut

came into play in end of 1992, trade balance went into deficit because capital and real resource were flowing in u.s., to increase output employment product productivity, that was not a consumption shortage there was a capital movement into u.s. trade deficit can be wonderful. now, with regard to worker conditions. lou: i am writing that down, wonderful. >> please do. let me do the other one -- worker conditions, in other country, imagine if we did not trade with them, do you think they will one better? my argument is that with you is that yes other country treat for worker poorly some do, those country should change those conditions however our trading with them puts pressure -- them to make better worker conditions. >> we have been an amazing job. >> look at north korea. lou: absolutely. >> what -- you think our sanctions on north korea has made them better? their people nicer?

no. lou: because you don't' to return over world's richest consumption economy to those who'll not open their economies to u.s. goods does that the mean that you endorse sanctions. i hope that you would accept that. >> well -- >> other. >> i would say sanction are ultimate in protect implement and when you look at the country, these country they make my call fee products at low -- my quality products at low-costs, without china there would be no walmart. lou: that would be a shame. >> have you been to a walmart it is spectacular. lou: how did we ever survive without walmart. >> and you don't like foreign

cars or french perfume or german hamburgers, what do you like lou, that is not american, i love everyone too by the way. >> you hedge up on that perfume. >> my family came from foreign countries. migratemy -- you want to a cool one. he brought works of freed rick schuller a prize book collection that book was published in philadelphia in america in old german script he brought it, of it free trade back then it is great. now wore all from everywhere, we -- >> you mean not justin vented with world trade organization? >> no, adam smith and ronald reagan. jack keane dee you are coming to my side soon, i know you are i am waiting.

lou: i'm going to say it has been great. thank you. >> you are a great friend. i do enjoy this show very much. lou: i'm not putting up with any more $18 million trade deficits. 30 million people out there right now who would like to be part of middle class. and have jobs, paying what they did 30 years ago they don't. >> that is not a trade problem. it is regulation, and restricts and requirement and government spending. >> thank you. >> a massive solar storm up next details of manhunt for two country most wanted fugitive. >> and the close encounter no

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worker joyce campbell -- joyce -- >> a lot of trouble. she went through this planning that took weeks and weeks to get material to the two men did all that then she i guess only thing in her favor, she had a panic attack and went to the hospital before she could pick them up. i think that prosecution is doing, right now is really trying to squeeze her get any information they can from her. because, idea is they, charge her with many more charges. they are not doing that yet because they want more information from her. lou: emily? law enforcement and correctional system in new york they look bad here. it looks like corruption goes beyond joyce campbell. >> you are right the corruption but the accomplice web it huge,

there are things smuggled into prison that are rendered with assistance of outside help, i agree they are squeezing her for information they will keep squeezing her until they are at a point they can send a message there no way that d.a. or the government is going to stand for this any further. >> the idea that this could happen. one way they escaped they rumpeled up clothing put sheets over it, so it looked like they were in bed. are you kidding those are from movies in 50s 92 how. lou: how about 30s. >> okay, 30s oh, lou. lou: they smuggled in power tools, frozen churches -- frozen chunks

of hamburger meat. do you notice that governor cuomo is not in those press conferences he has disassociated himself. >> if you look at correctional officers in there if you have a felony you might not get the job job. lou: turning to dylann roof in south carolina. deranged. he has become focus of outrage. and anger. the truth is this is taken on a life of its own. we're to me, seems focusing too much on this young man.

it is frightening to me we're making so much of him in this horrible act. >> well, i think that it right to recognize that this individual committed a heinous unspeakable crime. i do believe correct that we should deem his responsible for his actions, but moving forward what is going to be interesting this could be a historical event where feds might take a step back and let south carolina prosecute this crime on the racial and the really significant issue it is, let them take care of it, traditionaly fed has stepped in these crimes, and will prosecute, and for this severity but here, i believe that south carolina wants to step up to the plate, and to be able to prosecute their own. this is is their young man. >> south carolina should take this case, feds may get involved involved. >> all right lis wiehl and

emily thank you. >> some sharks don like having their picture taken a video of divers off of coast of florida one shark went after a scuba diver. the diver did not want to part ways with the equipment he held on as shark dragged him a couple feet before he had the bright idea of letting go. and the shark took off with the camera. >> up next could tom brady appeals his deflategate suspension we talk with author of a new report says that science used to indict brady of shoddy and the conclusion of the wells report are unsupport able. we're back with him in a

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tank says the findings report that it contradicts testimony from the referee indicating what was used to measure the footballs the ae i could not replicate the data from the report when they tried to use their methodology. also the wells report fails to consider any other reason for deflation in the football and also to take up the report author of the report good to have you with us. what a remarkable piece of analysis. >> eight you for having me. >> but it was contradictory

from the referee. >> one big week is that they went to into the day ready to measure the pressure or they don't keep track of what gauges they used or the ball pressure it is a mass. >> though wells report other possible explanations do exist are below the prescribed pressure. which did not even consider those other possibilities. >> it only looks at the difference of a pressure drop even though the patriots bubbles were at the pressure you would expect after spending half of the game outside in the called. but they did not compare them to the called football's that they measured at the end of halftime after they warmed

up. >> analyzing your report i frankly see so many holes in the wells report i cannot imagine first of all, brady and the players association attorneys would not use that with his appeal but will they? to make a have their own technical experts but they will certainly look to our report in the work of other people for confirmation. is there any doubt in your mind whatsoever, tom brady should be able to move on with his life and career without further interruption by the nfl?

>> the scientific part is weak enough i would not want to punish someone based on that. but i would not want to base anything on it. i don't know what a way to go with says. >> is a astutely reading your report there are so many flaws and would not want to base a judgment on that either. would you concur? >> there are other parts we did not let catlike the suspicious bathroom visits. lou: but that does not amount to a hill of beans if in fact, if there was no malevolent effort to deflate the balls. >> we're not trying to prove beyond a reasonable doubt.

it is preposterous of the evidence and who knows what that means. [laughter] lou: who knows what more likely than not means. that is the craziest standard i have ever heard applied when you have discrete judgment use a conclusion. more likely than not. >> it is meant to reflect of the upper province of the evidence. but that shows you how iffy that standard is. lou: why did you get interested in the case? >> with the politics is a sight of something to do. lou: it had to be sullen and it was fun to read the report. and i never would have believed until you said of the other hand. [laughter] i appreciate you being with us.

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that is set for a misheard. tomorrow thank you ford being here tonight. kennedy: i cannot stand i hate to the confederate flag controversy not because i have a long held a deep conviction in either way but it is an issue that's that's, should result pragmatically but because the flag itself has outraged in the motion is nearly impossible to have a practical discussion about the historical significance in the modern context. but it niki haley flanked by a confederacy and allies addressed the vision of history and fadeyev that has engulfed the