>> happening already. >> it is instantaneously. glad you could join us everyone. extraordinary event. history was made today. neil cavuto it is your turn, take it away please. >> thank you very much. whether you're straight or gay issue abroad for a lot of low-cals is are you alive. so our station on this particular issue seems to be taking a backseat to their fixation on simply breathing another day. in france they're trying to understand what led to an isis inspire it had attack that is left at least one dead one injured, and many on the land. you have separate attacks today in not only there but throughout much of the middle east. you have growing concerns that for example, in yemen other related areas all taking responsibility for the same attacks on three different continents that there's confusion as to whether isis is readying something else.

not only beyond the 28th killed in tunisia and bomb attack in kuwait but whether this could be precursor weakening u.s. of a. blake what can you tell us? >> hi there neil three attacks as you mentioned three different parts of the world today three different countries but first in europe. france, the second in north africa tunisia, third in the middle east, kuwait. now it is not exactly certain if these are all connected at this point. but the attacks do come after an isis leader called to make the ramadan a time of calamity for the infiddle. one beheaded and then err back phrases written on his lifeless body. attacker crashed a car into a gas factory. now the company is important hire. it is air product and couple calls. it is an american company based in pennsylvania.

tarted beach side resort in tunisia. 27 people murdered in a town that is popular with british tourists. some survivors reported having a barricade themselves inside hotel rooms and then in kuwait, a shiite mosque bombed at least 15 people killed there. attack came in moments after prayers. isis according to reports has claimed responsibility for that attack and fox's katherine reports a former pentagon official says you cannot discount at this point at least and we're still in the immediate hours of aftermath here but cannot discount attacks were connected or some level of coordination. a lot of questionings here going forward. neil. >> i do know i think it was back a couple of months ago that isis had warned of coordinated attacks that would be in france, belgium, they had to be in the united states. they didn't specify a time or a period or even an exact target. but they did say at the time that this was in response to

concerted particularly french an u.s. attacks on isis outlets. so i'm wondering now particularly with this u.s. subsidiary in france, whether that is what they're connecting now. and what they're fearing later. >> well when you go back to that, that was a propaganda video distributed earlier this year, and the countries that were mentioned neil as you mentioned u.s., france, belgium as we know this first attack happened in france today. on a company based in the u.s. and the third country was belgium. well, as this was happening, there was a meeting of european union leaders in belgium. the france, french president françois was in belgium, whether that has anything to do with it whether they connected those three will certainly be at the top of the list of the questions for intelligence officers. but that warning had been out there.

and today, we saw an a attack on an american company in france. at least it happened at an american company. only indeed thank you very good reporting. by the way i talked to french president he skipped out talks on greece before of the developments if you think about greek talks are going nowhere so greeks are up a paddle, without a paldz i should say but bottom line is that is not resolve sod that kind of development is saying nothing of this growing fear of violence and escalated isis attacks on citizens around the world. would certainly be rattling the markets. anything but today, why is that happening? >> neil, one dead in southeastern france, 27 killed at a tunisian resort town, and then at least 15 dead in that kuwait mosque attack. terror and violence part of the qortd that we live in sadly may be accepted as part of the world

that we live in. there's no explanation for why these markets are ignoring other than we've become used to this kind of terror. other than that we have already factored in economic impact of ongoing terror attacks around the world. you have dow and s&p higher today. take a look at the s&p chart all of this information came out or most of it before opening bell rang. take a look at france's stock market neil, the market ending higher on the day no rush to u.s. treasuries safety there. there was no panic buying of gold. maybe as i said before people have investors really factored in the threat of terror on the horizon for years to come. the only thing that would really rattle markets is attack that has -- does serious economic damage here, there, and maybe everywhere. neil. >> incredible reaction and keep an eye on it for us always appreciate it. all right we know a lot about

what happened in franks today. we do know that 30-year-old who was questioned is arrested soon afterwards. has a known -- very extremist writing fast on internet everything else questioned by police as being held by police, but he was known to foreign intelligence services going back to 2006. we're told that they kind of lost track of them two years ago. hard to say hard to have quantify here but we know now that there was a record with this guy. they were watching this guy among others. former director and ambassador on what he make of this and this lone wolf attack maybe not just him although questioned as you know. but ambassador, what are we to make of that somehow this guy fell through cracks or others we were looking at in the same crack. j i don't know how they lost track of him. but i don't think there's much that is lonely about these woflts. the fact that they don't go to meetings and that they

communicate via social media and doesn't mean it won't be a movement where they get day by day instructions on what to do. but this is jihaddism. most of what we're seeing so far since they're killing shia as well as westerners is sunni jihaddism and it is quite possibly a related to al qaeda or -- both. >> but with this same amount of noise ambassador is what we heard prior to "charlie hebdo" attacks including attackers, but how -- without giving away, you know, statement and national secrets, how do we track that sort of thing and then how in this case could it be that we drop it or we don't connect dots? >> well except for certain steps that are very closely held like they're planning of 9/11, a

number of hints of these things are out there in the social media. the -- we probably have more nsa people learning twitter and how to tweet these days than anybody ever thought would be the case couple of three years ago. now, i think that what we do collect is sometimes not all of that reliable thorrough but we dot best we can. but these are movements driven by a theological totaltarian genocidal side of views. >> we don't know a lot a yet but weird how all of this occurred in the same day but tunisia attack on the hotel and tour victims there 28 known dead could be many more. but when they cut things up but i'm wondering, is this the

operating right now in concert simultaneous attacks a concern for us next week around the fourth. you know the. >> well they said they were going to pick up the pace during ramadan also good to looks at anniversary whether they're doing something on 9/11 in the future or anniversary of the american revolution as some groups have. there are just a number of -- ways in which they show their determination and coordinating to and sometimes it has to do with dates sometimes with orders that go out over the internet. >> all right ambassador thank you for taking the time we do appreciate it. and pointed out heightened sensitivity to what intelligence is out there and whether we're doing enough to connect the dots out there. former white house security counsel member said we should be

doing more. james katherine says be careful about overstepping things in the name of fear you take a look at the incidents today say hey, don't use this as an excuse to start going crazy and invading our privacy essentially. >> i think it is always worth keeping that concept in mind and the moments when it is easy yition to lose sight of that are moments of crisis opinion again we're hearing similar to the boston bombings there were information already in the giant national security apparatus about these people. but we were unable to use it effectively. i think people are attempted to say woe need more information more power or using what we have. >> what do you make of that because fbi we're told moments ago is looking into this and fear the coordinated attack, implication here and you know the drill i don't know what they're looking at you think they should be free to look at a little more than they do or what? >> absolutely. every single american counterterrorism initiative is

predicated on good solid intelligence gathering and solid intelligence analysis by the u.s. government intel and law enforcement communities. these three attacks really highlight a that are tifer that has been emerging thanks to leaked and classified intel that tells us isis is much better cooperate coordinated than previously believed. now is the exact wrong moment to be backing off. >> all right katherine. you're quite right to say when we have far reaching rules in effect get records of 125 americans over phone laws et cetera it didn't stop the boston bombers. it didn't stop a lot of tax where thftion going on willy nillly so your argument is who is to say a beefed up type of security presence would change things now? >> that is right. i think good intentions aren't enough. of course when people are pushing for expanded power what they mean to do with them is make americans and others safer.

it doesn't mean there are. but asking for a analysis to price of innocent civilians wind up in no fly list and other more severe situations. >> julianne you come into the camp with chris christie rights are removed if you're dead. >> imperative to sort of protect, you know, civilian privacy, laws rubbed up against presidents imperative for national security to protect american citizens from threats abroad and at home. but the key here is that with the emergence of organizations like isis, who have emerged recently in the last couple of years were really facing a new type of dynamic threat. these people pose a direct threat to not only united states's way of life and citizens operating abroad but here at home as well. >> well that is a battle how far

you go and go far up. ladies i want to thank you both. breaking news including the supreme court decision today that made -- gay marriage legal in all 50 states. now we want to crunch numbers a little bit on this. 13 states that didn't recognize if and you're running business in that state working for a employer in any one of these given states now obligated to provide benefits to partners and many more do. how does this change the landscape? you remember that woman with the pizza shopping and she said she wasn't against gays. but she wouldn't -- serve a gay wedding. is she now legally obligated to do just that? those are some of the hard and very real financial questions people are asking, after this decision.

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>> all right and recognizing gay marriage in all 50 united states, now of course there were 13 that did not recognize it. those 13 have to start recognizing it. but what is morally you have a problem doing that or you don't want to serve pizza at a gay wed these issues have come up before this decision. what now happens post this decision? this is one with example there are a gazillion more. peter barnes with the same-sex marriage impact to business. peter. >> and neil, and the impact on work place benefits and on government benefits for same sex couples was a key part of the majorities opinion. justice kennedy writing said, quote, theses a pect of marital status is taxation. property rates. hospital access medical decision making authority. adoption rights, rights and benefits of survivor.

workers compensation and valid marriage under state law is also a significant status over 1,000 provisions of federal law. talked to lead plaintiff in this case james about this part of the decision, here's what he says. >> i'm thrilled that couples benefits by the right to marry. humbling for me to help make that happen. >> in their defense justice who oppose this decision said actually that -- expanding a work place and government benefits for same sex couples was not a legitimate legal reason to -- to do this. they said listen, this is a power that is dell gaited to the state. a constitutional issue here is chief justices decent and he writes here if you are among the many americans who favor

expanding same-sex marriages but ail means celebrate today's decision, celebrate the availability of new benefits. but do not celebrate the constitution it has nothing to do with it. neil. >> pretty feisty. peter barnes thank you very, very much. fastest among next gentleman and woman love to be the next president of the united states. jo ling kent on that. joling. >> a lot of tweets coming out lent proud to celebrate marriage equality and courage and determination of lbgt americans made it nationally grateful to the people of maryland leading the way on this important issue of human dogty and equality urnsd the law. bernie sanders tweets today the that is upon equal justice under the law. now on the other side republican candidate jeb bush releasing this statement saying, quote, i

believe the supreme court should have allowed states to make this decision. which continued in a country as diverses our people who have opposing views should be able to live side by side. now it is crucial that as a country we protect religious freedom and the right and also nondiscrimination. donald trump saying once again bush appoint a supreme court justice lettuce down. jeb pushed him hard, remember! and mike huckabee running had this statement just now. supreme court has spoken with a very divided voice on something only the supreme being can do redefine a marriage. i will not ac ac -- not retreat. and rick santorum who is also throwing his hat in the ring for 2016 says the court is one of three branches of government and they have an imperfect record.

there you have it neil a ride variety of opinions an thoughts on this landmark decision. >> joling thank you very much. business then have to decide what they're going to do about this but individuals have to as well. after the wade abortion decision a lot of catholic hospitals wanted to opt out of it they were allowed to and not perform abortions at the hospital and further more wont provide means for women to get ac sowses to that that was perfectly acceptable over the years contested back and forth. but it is by and large stuck. now, we have this decision, very different i graduate you but it is going to be appealed on many, many levels, not too high a court. no higher court although there were those who argue to higher authority but be that as it may what do you do for those who do not account any part to do with this? we have them joining us looking at businesses and what only --

obligations are basically it is law of the land. >> easier for big corporations. large corpses in this country they have offered same sex partner benefits for many years. >> even though the businesses in 13 states where this was not recognized -- they just bought them and everywhere. >> guess what now they can say you either are married or you're not an it makes it much easier for companies to do business in the states where gay marriage was already legal. you've seen large corporations do that married or nothing. we don't offer same sex partner benefits we don't offer -- opposite sex partner benefits. you go, and you get married, an you get the contract. verizon started to do that. delta started to do that already, and these states spoke from the big business and make it is much easier to administer those benefits. >> you have to wonder where we go with this, right?

because there are hidden clauses we don't know whether you like this decision or not social security benefits. other related federal benefits. leaving that aside what do your friends on wall street side say? >> for this republicans and democrats i had a interesting conversation just via e-mail. out in israel meeting benjamin netanyahu as a matter of fact. >> name dropping like that. >> no. i'm name dropping his name dropping he's with scott walker fan, he's supporting scott walker against gay marriage. but he said he's -- he's for gay marriage, and he said this actually hurts probably walker in the long run because the country reflects mostly what it would -- anthony's view point on this. >> but imposes that -- >> slightly and a so devicive in terms of favor versus oppose. 48% favor 44% opposed but opposite when you look at democrats versus republicans.

62% in favor from democrats, republicans and only 31% in favor. 57% republicans polled by the fox news channel oppose gay marriage. >> whoever survives and becomes it respect party nominees. will that be a problem for republican nominee? >> how the opposition is just supporter of gay marriage is it falls into my category. opposed to it because i don't think supreme court should be ruling on everything that founders had no intention of them to rule on. but i wonder if this was not a good issue for republicans. >> when it comes down to -- people talk about states rights, but when you bestow federal financial benefits on married couples, then you need to have when it social security, it is y people are taxed it is a state tax law you need to have a blanket national law about how

you treat the people financially. >> gay marriage -- >> bottom line. reality is here, cost is there but to wall street they don't seem to care any ore. they're making money. whether you're gay, straight, you're in the green. what the hell do you care? right after this.

neil: all right. in light of all of these fears we could be facing terror threats again on no fewer than three attacks around the world today, is it time we beef up our presence around the world? to respond to that, republican congressman from north carolina, renee ellmers on that. congresswoman, thank you for joining us on a crazy news day. so much we don't know about these attacks, but what we do know is we always seem ill-prepared to deal with them. they can attack anywhere at anytime. what do we do about that? >> well, you point out a very important situation here. you know, the president himself

has admitted on the global stage that he does not have a clear strategy, a complete strategy to deal with isis and our terrorist enemies. this is something that we have got to handle. the president, as commander in chief, needs to come forward with a full strategy so that we can get behind him, and we can send that strong message of strength to our enemies. neil: now, as part of that trade -- because this issue has become contentious in the house and in the senate. you were for granting the senate, i believe and correct me if i'm wrong, trade authority so he could submit a package, you guys in the house and senate voted yea or nay on it, but you're being challenged for 2016, and your opponent has said that you're signing on to deals that could be very bad for workers, very bad for jobs, very bad for north carolinians, but you've stepped back and said it's a security issue as well. explain. >> well, absolutely. you know, when we're talking about global and economic global

growth initiative, when we're or talking about building our market, building our country from a position of strength and building those ricks with our allies -- relationships are our allies, which i think we need to do now more than ever, then this is a part of that as well. when it comes to trade, we have to be ready from a perspective of strength at the american level. american exceptionalism should be leading the way when it comes to trade and every other issue on the global front. neil: congresswoman, thank you very, very much. we appreciate that. we're getting more reaction from some of the presidential candidates on this gay ruling today. bobby jindal the latest to say that the supreme court is now completely out of control, making laws on their own, and it's become a public opinion poll instead of a judicial body. we'll be talking to bobby jindal on your world on the fox news channel, 4 p.m. today. but among those republicans who are absolutely livid over this decision. we shall see. they're equally lifted over the environmental protection agency,

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this is a record for the epa, but it has been dragged to the supreme court directly or indirectly no fewer than eight times, the latest dust-up right now is whether the epa has the power to go ahead and exact huge fines for those who don't clean up their act and, by extension, clean up the air. now, you've heard from robert murray and others in the coal industry and elsewhere say some of these new clean air requirements are going to cost them a bundle. murray's already told me in his case it's going to lead to at least a couple of thousand layoffs, a thousand directly attributable to these new epa demands. so we thought we'd talk to mike leavitt, former epa administrator. you name it, impressive resumé. governor, on this, does the epa have this power? because to hear the likes of murray and other ceos tell it, it's going to be a big, big burden. >> well, i think it's clear that

the epa in this administration has used the tactic of pushing their authority as far as they could conceptually do can it and wait until -- do it and wait until either congress, which has not had the power to do so, or the courts push back. neil: the courts never do. the epa always comes out on top on these matters. and i guess that begs the next question. assuming the epa comes out on top yet again, the adjustments are going to be very costly, right? airlines have to do it and not slap on new fees to pay for it, big truckers, because that would apply to school buses as well. towns and municipalities are probably going to have to charge more taxes to do it. you get the idea. how far does this go? >> well, two points. i hadn't been there long as the administrator where i said to a friend of mine, there's more power in this place than a good man needs or a bad man ought to

have. it is an agency that has expansive capacity. the second thing i would mention is that the agency is populated with people, good people, competent people, but whose values really aren't focused on employment or economic well being of the country. neil: so what can you do if you say no, governor? in other words, you say, no, i'm not going to do it, this is going to kill me. you're in violation of the law essentially, right? >> that's the problem. everything they do is done with the force of law. i mean, there's essentially a man with a gun behind every ruling. and if it's pressed too far. so ultimately, the only way this is adjusted is that if you have an administration who's not willing to push this all the way to every extreme limit, or the other is for the congress to rule -- to step in. or at some point you could hope that the courts would recognize that they're pressing the capacity is granted them under law. neil: yeah.

i won't be holding my breath for that. but, governor, thank you very much. good seeing you again. >> good to see you. neil: very well. hate to interrupt all these other little dramas to bring you another drama half a globe away in greece. we don't have a deal. i hate to break it to you, in fact, it's getting much nastier. there's no market fallout, i want to stress that, here or there at least markedly so. these terror attacks superseized everything -- superseded everything from france, that prompted the french president to leave talks for that. angela merkel said i will not yield to greek blackmail. she's not budging, the greeks aren't budging on this. normally that would be enough to torpedo us. it's not happening. i don't know whether that's a sign we don't care about greece anymore or we're just so over them. we'll look at it after this.

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>> welcome back. with the supreme court ruling this morning that same-sex couples have the constitutional right to marry in this country, everyone has the right to enjoy the pain of matrimony. we have a rally in shall we call them engagement or wedding ring stocks. tiffany, signet jewelers and blue nile, some people are betting, it appears, that a lot more people will be getting married in this country. neil, save your dollars and cents, you have a lot more gifts to buy. neil: they're going to have to go through what i went through and just try to fool the significant other to think it's real and it's not. or save some money, a little magnifying glass. >> you're a cad. you're an absolute cad. [laughter] neil: dagen, good stuff. weird stuff going on halfway across the globe, greece is melting and no one seems to care. the germans have had it, the

french have had it -- obviously, the french have had far more pressing concerns with the severe terror attack. but it's quite another when you're ranting and raving and demanding and all of a sudden the world is ignoring. former u.k. parliament member john brown joins us right now, safely in the confines of west palm beach, as far away as you can get from the ills of his old continent. what is going on here? i'm looking at this and i'm saying, all right, the french are out of the talks, the germans have had it with talks, the italians are awe nowed they're even having to -- annoyed that they're even having to continue to talk. is greece on its own now? >> oh, no, i don't think so. basically, what you're seeing is the dawn of reality that has been papered over since greece was formed by the british, modern greece, in the 1830s. neil: you know, john, you always take, you always take credit or have the brits take credit for everything. and now you're -- >> well, this is not credit. this is not credit, it's created

a big problem. neil: exactly. >> britain subsidized greece until 1945 when britain was bust after the war. america took it over, and then when the european union was formed, germany took it over. neil: so what happens now? what happens now? no one wants that burden or responsibility, it seems. >> that's right. but there's two specters looming over the shoulders of angela merkel and everybody else. one is that the if greek leaves nato, the european union and the euro, first of all, it causes problems for the euro or questions which is now the second currency of the world. secondly, russia and china are anxious, couldn't wait to have a naval base in the eastern mediterranean which would be absolutely unacceptable. ask and then you've -- neil: the socialist prime minister there is playing one against the other like a free agent. if you don't give it to me, i'll talk to russia, i'll certainly talk to china, and that's what i think will ultimately bring those guys back to the table,

and he knows it. >> totally agree. when he left moscow just a week or two ago, both he and putin were smiling. they didn't do an open deal, but one never knows what happened behind closed doors to cause them both to smile. that is exactly the blackmail that merkel is upset about, but merkel has really no option. we have to keep greece in nato and the european union, and if possible, within the euro. neil: you had a funny way of relaying that, my friend, saying i won't yield to greek blackmail. you think that cooler heads have got to prevail because of the alternative of a greece that goes to russia or china or both is going to be far worse for the union and the continent? >> yes. and, of course, greece is now worse off than it was before extenned negotiations. neil: that's right. >> most of its capital have left for switzerland, business assets have left for bulgaria or india. the economy's almost bust, the

banks are illiquid with massive unperforming loans -- i believe secretly financed by the european central bank illegally, of course, but there you are. it's a much worse situation, and i think it's going to end up with greece staying in the euro maybe, but certainly staying in nato and the european union, but having capital controls which is a very difficult thing because the union allows a free flow of capital. neil: i'm sorry, my friend. do you think this is a stupid club? only germany technically meets all the requirements to be in it. so are we just sort of doing everything we can to keep a club together that's just not worth it? it was never, it never made sense on paper, makes even less sense now? >> i don't know about stupid. i think it's an extremely -- neil: idiotic, moronic, foolish -- >> vicious tyrannical thing. it's a soviet redistribution state, and they were hoping under the guise of the european union to slide money out of the northern countries, germany,

britain -- neil: that's exactly right. >> -- into the south. but now the european union hasn't come together so fast and, in fact, with britain now renegotiating, it's under big question mark. it's become open. and, therefore, very dangerous. and i think from the very beginning i've felt it was a disaster, and i'm more convinced than ever now. but this is really bad because if the euro goes, it's the second currency of the world. that would be very serious for everybody in the world. neil: we'd get over it, you know? that's just me. >> well, i think, as i said, greece will either stay in europe, stay in nato and the european union, have capital controls with germany looking over its expenditures. neil: all right, we'll watch very closely. always good having you on. thank you very much. >> is thank you, neil. neil: if this was a concern to our markets, they have a funny way of showing it on a day of terror concerns, big rulings this week from the supreme court. look at this, we're up 58

points. so this is what i've always argued about wall street, a lot of people say, oh, it's conservative, it's red or some of the big money guys are blue. gay, straight, it doesn't matter. it's all about green. it's all about making money. it's all about getting richer. all that other stuff just takes a backseat. the proof, the proof is today. we'll have more after this.

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neil: the big decision today out of the supreme court, just like it was back in 1973 with roe v. wade, and that led to decades of litigation that really continues to this day. how far to take it, how far to honor it, and what do you have to do if you are going to oppose it? there were carveouts made for catholic hospitals and christian

groups that felt they could not comply with that. employers who said they morally couldn't offer that kind of coverage even when it came to birth control, so we have allowed those carveouts over the years and those specific extensions and riders. this is a whole other matter, of course. charles payne, now on the businesses and those that have to handle this. what do you think? >> large businesses, i think, most of them have followed the rule of the law, and most of them follow the rules of the laws in the particular states they operate in, but i am very worried about these smaller businesses and the divide you've talked a lot about so far on your show between where does a family-owned business or tightly-held business get to use their own christian, let's say christian beliefs or whatever beliefs they may be that may go against this particular ruling? i think, obviously, they will be branded as bigots by the media, which is interesting because remember this abercrombie & fitch ruling just a couple of

weeks ago, that they couldn't deny a worker with muslim head gear a job. i think you juxtapose that against someone who may now be forced to make a prompt against their religion -- a project against their religion, right? you could get into the arguments are businesses people or do they deserve rights. i think businesses do deserve rights. neil: dagen raised an interesting point to me, she was saying, you know, if you're offering benefits and you don't want to offer the same benefits to gays, could you conceivably just junk your benefits because everyone suffers in that event, but all of a sudden you are not accountable on that? you know, in other words you make a carveout for everybody, you're just not going to offer them to anyone. >> i think that would be a very small drop in the bucket, you know? that would be more of an economic decision -- neil: what about wanting to -- would you be forced to serve, let's say, at a gay function? >> right. neil: all these issues will come

up. you remember that pizza opener not too long ago said i'm -- pizza owner who said i will not serve a gay wedding. >> no one -- when a small business puts their shingle up, when people walk through the door, they don't ask who are you sleeping with? they really don't care. but you force people to do things against their religious beliefs, that's why this is a real issue. you talked about it -- neil: you can get sued. if a gay couple says, wait a minute -- >> not just sued, ostracized, and in most cases you will go out of business unless you're in a real community that really, truly supports you. most businesses -- in new york city you cannot be a business branded racial or same-sex bigot and stay in business very long. and so between that kind of public pressure, there should be some legal recourse where people can, particularly, again, these smaller businesses, these family-owned, closely-held businesses that say, listen, we don't ask people who they go to

bed with at night. come in and buy a cake. but when you force me to do something i just don't believe in, we've got to find a compromise. neil: i don't carry your views on the subject, social security benefits, federal benefits, survivor benefits for those in those 13 states where gay marriage was not recognized, but for all 50 states this is now the law of the land, and all the federal benefits that have been afforded to heterosexual couples are now afforded to homosexual couples. >> right. neil: i can't even put a dollar tab on that yet, but it's got to be substantial. >> it's got to be substantial. in fact, this week there's a major economic cost to all the big rulings this week. housing ruling, i'll talk about that tonight, that's going to be forced integration and -- neil: why do you say that's forced integration? i don't want to give away your show. >> two weeks ago the obama administration talked about an ambitious plan to move poor

people into rich neighborhoods. this is the tool, just like the clean air act was the tool that allowed the epa to become the most omnipotent agencies out there, this will be the rule. the attorney general last night said this, it was lost on everything. if you are rich, get ready to have some poor people moving next to you, you know? whether you like it or not. this is how they're going to redress the imbalances or social injustice of bad schools in poor neighborhoods. i think this is the weapon, i think the supreme court just handed them a weapon, this administration, the ultimate weapon to force neighborhoods -- they will be able to design neighborhoods the way they want it to look. neil: wow. that is really -- >> yeah. neil: 6 p.m. tonight he's going to be doing that. i have a show at 4 p.m. on fox news, if i steal that issue from him, it'll be a moot point. [laughter] >> it wouldn't be the first time. [laughter] neil: oh, you son of -- [laughter] all right. charles payne, i mean it when i say, a great show, great guests,

and he sees things that others miss. 6 p.m. tonight, "making money." and meanwhile here, making himself history. [laughter] we'll have more after this.

neil: all right. we are getting more responses from the white house now on air products, the company whose french offices were hit today by that terror attack. blake burman has an update for us. blake? >> just came in in the last few minutes, neil. one person was beheaded in eastern france and had arabic phrases written on his lifeless body. the attacker also crashed a car into a gas factory. now, that company is called air products. it has headquarters in allentown, pennsylvania. the location here was in eastern france. air products just released a statement a moment ago. let me read you what they said, quote:

>> i looked on their web site, nei, they say they have locations in about 50 countries on every single continent. they have locations as well in israel, qatar and the uae, and they say they are stepping up that security. there were two other attacks today as we know, one in tunisia at a resort there, a beach resort, more than two dozen people were killed. another one in kuwait, a bombing at a shiite mosque there. the white house has now weighed in on all three of these incidents. they say, quote: >> i can also tell you, neil, according to our reporting at fox, a law enforcement official tells fox that the fbi is monitoring all three situations,

and they say at this point it does not appear that any americans were killed in today's attacks. neil? neil: all right, blake, thank you very, very much. well, all of this has heightened security alerts here, as they already were in france all those months after the "charlie hebdo" attacks. there'll be extra alert of our fourth of july weekend here that's coming up next week. so you know the familiar routine here. but what does that mean? and what are our intelligence authorities doing in the interim? former nsa official, you always have to ask what do we do in this event? as you often remind me, they have but to succeed once no matter how often we thwart them, hundreds, thousands of times. so what goes on right now? >> that's right, neil. it's a -- well, what goes on right now is they're going to go through absolutely everything at nsa and at the other intelligence agencies. they're going to determine, you know, what was missed, what

could they have done better, what kinds of things could they have seen, what indicators or were there? and they're going to see what they can do to prevent future attacks as well. so it's not just about the past and hunting down those that perpetrated these attacks and, of course, the french, the tunisians have one of the suspects right now. so there are going to be some other efforts to round up accomplices. there are going to be some ideas of working with the intelligence agencies of other countries, and they're also going to look for indicators that something else is going to happen. so the fourth of july, of course, is an area that they have to work at, and they have to make sure that with law enforcement we do as much as we possibly can to protect the american people and the citizens of allied nations as well. neil: but do you think we are at a disadvantage given not the total repudiation, but we curbed some of nsa's data collecting powers. and now you wonder whether we

might have done that too aggressively and left ourselves exposed or what? what do you think? >> well, i think there are going to be some, you know, there's always that pendulum that swings back and forth between one extreme and the other. clearly, you have to safeguard the privacy rights of individuals. what have we done in the wake of the snowden revelations and other incidents like that, i would say we probably have gone a little bit too far. but right now nsa's capabilities are not diminished to any appreciable degree in these particular tactical situations. the damage is more of a long-term situation where we're looking at what types of techniques were revealed and what kinds of things are they going to do to avoid detection. and that's going to be the most serious issue right now. neil: all right. well, out there to your point, colonel, we appreciate that. now to cia analyst fred flight. are we losing this war tracking down these guys? what do you think, fred? >> neil, i'm afraid we probably

are. we had three smuggles -- not simultaneous, but three isis attacks in the same day today, isis plots in the united states, canada, australia, the u.k. the u.s. does not have a strategy to go against these attacks. the french have a strategy, but they're so beleaguered by so many radical islamists, i think they're losing too. neil: you know, you talk about what they're dealing with, they have an influx of muslims the likes of which few countries have to deal with, but they're along the mediterranean and maybe since the fall of libya, 40-60,000 muslims descending on southern europe, and many of them targeting -- hoping to find havens in places like france and italy and a host of others. and i'm wondering now since they open their arms to all of these people -- and most are good people -- whether they've also let in nefarious elements already plotting the kind of attacks we saw today? >> i think that's inevitable. and we also know that when muslims cross the mediterranean

and enter through italy or greece, they're going to france because that's where the largest muslim community is. that's where they know their compatriots are. so whether they're possible -- neil: fred, it's not like our situation along the mexican border. what happens? how does it happen and how do the french control snit doesn't look like they can. >> well, this is a consequence of the european union open borders policy. neil: right. >> all these guys have to do is to get into one e.u. country, then they can work their way into france. neil: and part of them will argue that they need a safe haven, and the europeans are very sympathetic to that and, of course, many of them have been victims to this sort of thing in the past in their own government, so they're very understanding. you argue too much so. so i guess the question now is what do they do in the face of this very real threat? i know it wasn't too long ago the homeland security president was saying there are cells in all 50 states, i imagine quite a

few more are in europe. >> well, i mean, the french have a strategy. and i was listening to your last guest, the french are actually going in the opposite direction of the united states. they're trying to implement programs similar to the metadata program that was shut down durgd snowden leaks to fight terrorism. and there's other things like a terrorist hotline that france set up after the "charlie hebdo" attack to try to combat this threat. neil: weird. it gets weirder every day. thank you, my friend. very good seeing you. thanks for clarifying a couple of things going on around the world. some threats closer to home, at least almost a month now since those two guys broke out of that upstate new york prison. we told you they were less than a couple of dozen miles away from canada. indications they may be there already or headed there. after this.

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neil: well, that did not take long. we're already hearing some alabama courts are issuing marriage licenses to gay couples after the supreme court ruling that legalized gay marriage in all 50 states. this was particularly addressing the 13 states, including alabama, that did not recognize these ging ay unions. -- gay unions. now they are following the law of the land. lizzie macdonald has been looking at this from a dollars and cents issue on a federal budget issue. what have you been finding out? >> well, it looks like, you know, when you look at what the cbo has said and other studies have said that gay marriage, gay people may pay more in taxes if they file jointly due to the marriage penalty. but when it comes to things like social security, yes, now gay couples in those 13 states can get things like survivor benefits. say their spouse dies, they can get their spouse's higher social

security, even if they divorced and were married for ten years -- neil: just like heterosexual couples. >> yeah, that's right. with other programs, things like medicare and other social security programs, there is means testing, so their higher income will bump them out of those programs and, you know, obamacare exchanges, they won't get their tax credits because many of them do have higher incomes. it's that marriage penalty that'll hit them -- neil: dagen raised a good point with me during the break that, well, they've paid into this. they've just never gotten this before, now they will, and that's fine. but now that further depletes social security funds beyond what they were getting depleted or potentially -- >> well, yeah, that's right. neil: even though legally they have every right to it. >> dagen makes a good point -- neil: with my spin and her point was mediocre. that's enough out of you up there. [laughter] >> yeah, dagen. neil: yeah! >> by the way, this study is some years old, but a billion

dollars in net tax revenues from gay couples into the system. but the one thing i will say is now gay couples can get -- if they work for the federal government, they can get health benefits and other benefits -- neil: they didn't already have that? >> now they have been getting it. that will take -- neil: in other words, it's too early the tell right now how big a dollars and cents impact this will have in terms of more are getting something out of the system even though they've been paying into it, but now they can finally get something out of it. early to quantify. >> yeah. a billion dollars net over ten years, i mean, that could change. gay couples are pretty smart. they could rejigger their taxes, because that marriage penalty is the thing that dings them the hardest. neil: yeah. marriage in generates are going down can, right? >> yeah, i would think so. if you have the same salary and you file jointly, you're going to get pushed up into the higher brackets, lose some deductions and personal exemptions as well. neil: isn't that weird that you

would have to base a union on whether it's cost effect incentive. >> it's a business decision, i guess, for some people. neil: almost doesn't matter. >> that's right. neil: sad. >> you have a marriage license now, so -- neil: yeah. okay. thank you. [laughter] west virginia attorney general patrick morrissey is here right now. attorney general, it is, as we say, the law of the land right now. you've heard what alabama is doing. what happens now? obviously, the argument is you can't collide with the supreme court. morally a lot of folks, catholics, have been saying, well, we do answer to a higher authority. here's a legal question i have for you. if i don't want to acknowledge this, i'm a business and i don't want to acknowledge it or offer benefits to gay workers or those who want to get married, have i violated the law? am i in trouble? >> well, i think what we're seeing right now is that there could be significant implications from today's decisions. if you go back to the oral arguments before the supreme court, solicitor general

verrilli was asked almost that exact question, what could happen to tax-exempt organizations? and what we're seeing is that this decision could represent a real threat for religious freedom. and we don't quite know the full implications of it yet. but you're a tax-exempt organization or if you're a school and you still want to maintain your religious beliefs, there are some serious issues that will be percolating up over next few months. i'm hopeful that we can begin to develop a consensus to hold the line for religious freedom. neil: let me ask you about that because we did make carveouts and exemptions and special riders after the roe v. wade abortion decision that a lot of religious groups, catholic hospitals and the like wanted, got and to this day enjoy. even though some have been taking those away hen it comes to issues -- when it comes to issues like birth control. i know this is a little bit different in the regard that it doesn't involve individual lives, but it is going to raise

a question. and i wonder from a legal standpoint whether you can even make that comparison. because a number of those who are opposed to gay marriage are going to make that argument on religious grounds. it's one thing with abortion, is it the same with this? >> well, i think that there really are very strong religious arguments that could be raised here and for a couple different reasons. we know there are a lot of individuals that hold religious beliefs that are really rooted and protected under the first amendment. so i think, you know, there may be some questions that arise about interpretations from today's case which really invokes the 14th amendment and then the first amendment which really allows people to practice their religious beliefs freely. i think that the jury's still out as to how far sweeping this will be, but the next step's clearly going to be looking at those tax-exempt organizations and churches and schools. and that's something, once again, it's a little early to know exactly how it will play

out, but i think that there are strong first amendment defenses to moving the line further down. neil: by the way, as you're speaking, attorney general, texas now serving gay licenses and the first gay couple to marry there getting a license in dexter county, texas. again, these are among the 13 states that did not recognize gay marriage but within hours of this decision are, in fact, granting licenses to those gay couples. separately, another development on the canadian border right now. authorities seem to have coronerred or believe they know where those two prison escapees are. they found additional dna evidence at another site not too far from the canadian border. i don't know the exact town from which we're getting some of this video that's just coming into us here, but it is the very neck of the woods from which they escaped almost a month ago. but authorities have a high level of confidence, quoting an ap wire story here, that they are in this area. of course, they've said that before, and they've been wrong

before. they're not identifying this additional dna material they got or from where they got it, but they're confident they're closing in on them. we'll keep you posted.

neil: we have live video coming from -- it isn't live, right, ralph? it's close to live, but it was taken a short time ago around the lake placid area, upstate new york, where they believe those two prison inmates who escaped a little more than three weeks ago are hiding out. if true, it would be not far from the prison they escaped from. we're told they found another site with their dna, this is not the same site they found in a cabin that was used by, ironically, personnel that worked at that prison. this is a different site, we're told, and would seem to indicate a pattern or route of escape that is again showing their dna.

how did they get to this point anyway? a former mobster did time in that same prison, said he paid off guards in a number of ways to get things he wanted. that was then. he's doing the good thing now. very good to have you with us, sir. thank you for coming. before i get into those details, where do you think these guys are? i mean, you know the area a little bit. what do you think? >> yeah. so if i was in that prison for about a month or so before i was transferred to another one, but i was in there, and it was right near the canadian border. neil: right. >> what i would have done is i would have immediately went for the canadian border. why waste your time trying to get into new york city or cross 50 states to get into mexico? you go to the closer place to get away, and that would have been the canadian border. there's a count time every four hours in these prisons, so if i was looking for these guys from the very beginning, i would have said they're never going to get on a highway even if they have a

car, which they didn't, but they wouldn't get on a highway -- neil: well, we're told they could have had a car, but you know the story, she either got cold feet or whatever, but they didn't get the car. they could have taken one. >> that's why i said, let's -- yeah, so let's say, neil, they did get a car. i would have said they're going to stay -- criminally-minded guys know after a heist, after thinking you do you avoid highways, major highways. there could be roadblocks, helicopters. what you want to do is stay on back roads. even if you have a car, you're going to stay at a 45 mile-an-hour speed limit, you can get off the road and make a run for it. what i would have did was said four hours from the the last count from when they left, 45 miles an hour, my dragnet would have been 180 miles and put my resources in that area: neil: i want to know how it is they got the help they got on the inside. finish. >> it happens every day.

neil: how did you do snit how would you try to coax a guard or what would you do? >> these guards, to start with -- just to get an idea of their character -- they're not bad people, they're just easily corrupted. and part of the problem is they're inside with murderers. and when your safety is at risk every single day and you're exposed to murderers, you want to be nice to them. you really don't want to be a big mean guy to them knowing there are shanks all over the prison. neil: but what can they offer you in prison? how do you entice someone -- >> well, to start with, if it's a female guard, just as a lonely woman can be manipulated outside by a charmer, the same thing could happen inside prison, and that's what happened with this woman. if it's a male guard, it could be just exchanging favors. it could be, hey, you know what? i have some connections on the street. or i'm the big honcho here in prison, and if you're kind of chose with me, you know, everybody's going to make sure that they respect you. and those guys' life is on the line every single day, especially in a max like clinton, and you can't forget

that. now, i'm not excusing any guard from being corrupt, i'm just telling you the root of the behavioral problem. neil: now, i understand, and in this case it was alleged that a male guard helped out, he was secreting to them -- allegedly -- all the weapons they were using to saw themselves out of there in the meat that was served in the prison. now, i don't know how -- at what point they got the weapons, the saws out of the meat. but -- >> yeah, i'll tell you how that works too. we had a number of guards on the take in metropolitan detention center in the mid '90s, and it was called operation bad fellas when they got busted. we literally had over a dozen guys bringing us in food every single day, and basically how we corrupted them was money. these guys weren't making a lot of money, and we were able to flash some big bills in front of them -- neil: how are you able to flash big bills in prison? >> you get visits every day. neil: oh, i see. >> you tell the guy, meet my buddy on the outside, at the

corner of king's highway and whatever it might be, and they meet. and they exchange money, and they exchange also -- neil: i understand. in the case of secreting in the stuff that you would saw yourself out of there in the hamburger meat, now, they weren't necessarily on a good behavior award, but they -- because they were deemed less threatening and they were on the up and up, at least appeared to be to guards and prison authorities there, they were granted a few more freedoms than other inmatessing right? -- inmates, right? who else would see the meat before these guys were? i can just picture i'd be chomping down on a hamburger, there's something metal. >> yeah. neal neil what happened? >> if nobody's looking for it, you're not going to find it. just to remind one second, you've got murderers, neil, you've got murderers that are on good behavior -- neil: i don't understand how that happens, you know? >> exactly. i mean, like, give me a break.

these guys are on in an honor bk because they've been nice? they chop people up. there is no honor block for these guys. and i'm an advocate of certain people getting reduced sentences, but the bad is the bad. you want to kill somebody, you want to chop 'em up in pieces, you spend your life in a crap cell. that's what you do. and that's the way it's supposed to be. there's not supposed to be an honor block, any privileges for those guys. neil: while i've got you, we had before and after pictures of these guys of what we think they look like now. we have the before pick churks ralph, if we could -- before picture, this is now the picture how we think they look now. there's absolutely zero difference. but my point is -- it's a little bit of difference, a little bit of growth. but don't authorities know that? they would obviously have to come up with clever or more clever disguises, right? >> yeah. what i would think also too is

these guys are geared towards self-preservation. they're hardened conflicts. everybody's treating them like thelma and louise, they're making this glorified run for freedom, are they going to split up, not split up, every time one of those guys takes a nap, the other is saying should i blow his brains out now? neil: you think they're still snot. >> they may be, but i would be sweeping those woods with a cadaver dog too, and they're crazy not to. you take a cadaver can dog with you in case one of them killed the other already, and at least you find the body. the worst that could happen neil is you sweep those woods for the first and last times, and you may even crack a couple of cold cases and find some bones. if you really gut lek key, one of -- let lucky, unone of them may have killed the other. neil: they have found dna, but they didn't indicate whether it came from one or both former pridzs. that's a very good point. >> and, neil, if they're going

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neil: you know i know these are high times of urgency but sometimes we put out warning that are so self-evident and obvious what is the value? we're showing types square around in new york around the corner. the homeland secretary in a statement that law enforcement should be prepared ahead of the july 4th holiday. i'm thinking to myself, you want us to be vigilant and want us to be on the look out? some of this tough is very obvious. given the latest development for france and clear the isis-inspired terrorist.

27 killed in an attack in tunisia and not surprising. these warnings are much like warnings you hear all the time. if if you see something, say something. look around. may be too obvious to say it. they're getting ready and fearful that something could happen a week from now. we're passing this along. we're hearing that chris christie will join the presidential race and depending who you use here the 13th or 14th. i include the former irs commissioner mark everson among them, other agencies do not. regardless how you number them, i would say not all but most of the those candidates taken the know tax hike pledge which is insisted by one grover norquist that candidates stick to promises like that because promises like that matter. they send a signal to voter that you wouldn't even entertain hiking taxes.

i guess, grover, by that you're saying want them to sooner talk about cutting spending than finding a way out by hiking, r taxing right. >> absolutely. neil: has chris christie taken this pledge? >> he has not yet. i understand he will take it as a presidential candidate. he just cast his fifth veto, five years in a row the democrat state legislature tried to raise taxes and for the fifth year in a row he vetoed their tax increases. so, he has a good track record on saying no to tax hikes. neil: we should explain the democrats dominate the legislature there have been urging a tax on the upper income, i think going from 8. the 7 to 10.8. they would say it would fade out after four years. i don't remember a tax magically retired itself. you're right, he rejected it. jeb bush, what has he done regarding your pledge. >> jeb bush says he is open to a tax increase.

that during the debate 2011-2012, about whether the republicans would agree to a tax increase with obama, they said no. bush came into washington, d.c. said, he would agree to a tax increase as part of the deal. because the republicans signed the pledge and kept it, we got 2 1/2 trillion in spending restraint. no tax increase so -- neil: is he only one? is he only one now who has not signed or only let's say prominent one? >> only prominent one right now. i think that eventually he will make, make it clear that tax increases will be off the table if he is president. he didn't raise taxes as a governor. so it is a little odd that he won't make the commitment. but if you don't make the commitment and you end up with a democratic senate, they will break you at some point because they know they can. neil: mention a key distinction. jeb bush did not raise taxes as a florida governor. he cut them repeatedly. so why does he have to honor a

promise when his record that comes before it proves it? >> well, first of all he had a republican house and senate. so nobody offered him a tax increase. and second, there is all the difference in the world between not raising taxes and say you will never do it. most people can fail to raise taxes in given years but when the crunch is on, there will be real pressures to put tax hikes up. he has said out loud he is open to a tax increase. neil: okay. >> he needs to walk that back. neil: i got you. thank you very much, grover. always good seeing you. two quick things before i get to trish regan. -- simply too harsh a proposal on the table. mainly greece must respond in 24 hours. the clear implication is no, take this proposal and shove it. we're not going to honor it. second on the gay marriage ruling, the third state that once didn't offer gay unions or sanction them, now, south dakota.

printing gay licenses as we speak following the likes of alabama and texas. there were 13 states did not offer this right to gay couples. they are all going to honor the law of the land. will start doing so today. in fact in texas we've already seen a marriage as a result of that change. so that was fairly quick. trish regan has been following the obligations businesses have post this ruling. trish? trish: neil, think about it from a business's standpoint. if you're a big business and operating in a bunch of different states this is actually you could say good news for you because if you're in new york and you want your employee to row locate to texas, if that employee is married to another man or it's a woman married to another woman they will not necessarily get the same kind of treatment in texas and they will resist that. they will not want to move to a state where their union is not recognize. so a lot of people in business were actually for this. we've seen business really be a champion of this. a lot of companies out there

offering same-sex marriage benefits before even their state necessarily recognized it. neil: you have to go down the ladder to small and medium-sized businesses. many don't have generous packages as it is. now they have a new wrinkle. trish: now they have to pay for it. neil: many may opt to say, you know, it is not worth it. trish: i fundamentally believe marriage is good. have written. marriage is good for our economy. every new household generates roughly $145,000 in what they call a ripple effect, buying things in the rest of the community. all those trips to best buy, for example, start to pay off when there is new household formation. so you know, it is good from an economic standpoint in that sense. you're encouraging marriage. you're encouraging a union. and you know, businesses, yeah, they will have to maybe pay a little bit more in the way of benefits but, so be it, right? these people are married and

they will have to deal with it. neil: we shall see. trish regan, thank you very much. we've been telling but the pressure the greeks are under. we just heard from a top greek official that the latest offer being shoved down their throats, he didn't say that but clearly the impression it was being shoved down their throats, they hate it. they don't like it at all. this tussle back and forth between the greeks and lenders continues. it could go into the weekend. we're told a new saturday deadline is imposed. this is like one of those bugs bunny and he will medical if you had cartoons. where they cross a line again and a again. ben stein on this next. [dad]i wear a dozen different hats

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what is going on half a world away. they don't like the onerous provisions european lenders are throwing at them. a number of top officials said no, we'll not be going along with this but a top greek finance minister whose name is all consonants, so i won't better pronouncing he just said we can get something done. until these greek authorities come up with a easier way to pronounce their names. cyprus -- sign tsipras i can get him. tomorrow they think they can cobble together a deal. i know how to pronounce this guy's name, ben stein. i will go forward and say something will get done, it always does. we kick the can down the road and revisit same soap appray. where are we going with this? should the european future have a future. >> i never understood what the purpose of it was in the first place. i still don't understand what

the purpose of it was. i don't think it add much economic growth. something will get done eventually. they will go up to the edge. they will yell and scream and go up to the edge again. an awful lot of life is about kicking the can down the road. that is what the u.s. government situation is, kicking the can down the road and making ever bigger deficits. neil: i'm sorry. kicking the can down the road, i never thought the european union made sense. it is a club only gem r germany qualifies to be in. they were trying to make it the equivalent of a united states. we're states that answer to the same government. i don't know, it just seems on paper if it were to go kablooy i could imagine it would be very disruptive but i could imagine life would eventually go on. >> it would very much eventually go on. europe is an incredibly, productive, powerful set of nations economicsly, no longer military. of course life would go on.

maybe we should end the drama, saying greece drop out, default. people will make money buying the bankrupt bonds. eventually there will be some payment back of it life does go on. the economy of a free market society is extremely supple and resilient and it will be this time too. neil: the fear of portugal, even france could follow. what do you think? >> france is a terribly rich country. i don't think it could happen to france. spain is recovering incredibly well from its problems although still has a lot of unemployment. portugal i don't know anything about. but i think the point here is, if there was no great urgency to make european union in the first place, if it falls apart there will be no great catastrophee for it or rest of the world. the world will go on. it is a very, very adaptable people as human beings, very quickly, ben we have another deadline ticking down that is on the nuke deal with iran. iranians following the supreme

leader saying you will not be able to police our stockpiles, whatever it is we want to check on. so we can trust them but we can't do the ronald reagan thing and verify them, right? so is, isn't that the makings of a bad deal right there? because we seem to want a lot more than they do? >> think behavior by mr. obama regarding iran is the worst bee trail in terms of defense and foreign policy that the united states has ever done. it is incredibly disasterous deal. there is, i can not understand what motivates mr. obama to be so eager to make the deal. we know no good will come of it. god bless him if he wants peace, we all do but how will this get us to anything but nuclear armed iran is impossible for me to see. neil: ben stein, thank you as always, my friend. great having you. >> thank you. neil: you heard ben mention president obama. he is expected to deliver the eulogy at the south carolina funeral for the state senator and pastor killed among nine

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has changed our perspective not only on racial issues but a certain confederate flag. that is a separate issue. jonathan serrie on a very big day and one very big eulogy. jonathan? >> yeah, it is, indeed, neil. in fact the president is on his way to deliver the eulogy. we believe at the top of 3:00 hour eastern time. a eulogy for the reverend clemente pinckney, who was the leader of this church, known as mother emanuel church in the historic district of charleston. there has been so much interest in this funeral that it was moved from the church to td a reason ney which seats about 5400 people. even so it quickly reached capacity. the city of charleston opened five remote viewing location. two of them are already full. many are making reservations at local restaurants to watch the service on tv.

clementa pinckney was the lead pastor at this historic church but went to politics. earlier this week his casket was on display at the south carolina capitol. he served in the state as a representative at age of 20 three and four terms as state senator, a position he held untiles his untimely death at age of 41. the reverend was gunned down along with eight other parishioners at this church, which was supposed to be a routine wednesday evening bible study, neil. neil: thank you very much. took note of south carolinaians response to this crisis and particularly family members and friends and victims of this crisis, an example of god forbid how you should respond to crises and message you send to the world. to your point there has been no violence, no rioting, no hardship none of it.

if anything warranted it, if you think anything would warrant it would be this. >> sure. an overriding point i tried to make in that piece it represents tremendous progress in race relations in this country. neil: you don't hear that everybody but clearly the case here. >> it does. i think the facts speak for themselves in how far we've come, who is mourning this event. how quickly the individual was caught. you can just go down the line. and then, in terms of who responded. we had twice-elected black president respond by sending the second black attorney general of the united states to a deep south state, run by an asian-american woman with a black senator. we've come a long way in this country. neil: would it have been different had the family members been outraged? >> i, perhaps. i don't know. i do think though that the response, i did expect. i mean i, i wasn't that surprised.

this is what americans do. i mean this is typically what happens. neil: does it make a difference that the white leadership community, locally, and statewide was just aghast at this? and didn't play racial games on it. it was just a horror, period, done? >> i think it did make a difference. i think these individuals stepped up. and that's a good thing. i mean, it is unfortunate in this day and age this will be politicized. you're going to see other agendas dragged into this. i think these folks deserve to be mourned as individuals. neil: absolutely. >> not viewed as characters in someone's political narrative. that inevitably will happen, because that is the nature of america today. neil: very good observations. excellent column. jason reilly. there is a way to deal with this they proved it in south carolina. we'll have more after this.

neil: all right.

you are going to be looking at some very angry greeks right now in athens. mike, if we have this, this is outside of, the capitol. they're rallying again. very, very angry about the austerity measures. they always have to give something back, give something up. they have had it. don't get any carrot for all the stick and much more. trish regan. trish: their very much. our government reminding everyone to be on high alert especially as we head into the 4th of july holiday. the department of homeland security out with a statement, that today's terror attacks in france, tunisia and kuwait are a reminder of evolving global terrorist threats. we stand, it says, in support of the people of those countries and mourn the loss of those killed. the death toll up to 37 in tunisia. two people killed in france. at an american chemical plant there, an 25 is now the death toll being reported out of kuwait after a bomb exploded at