ll we'll leave it right there. that's it for "forbes on fox." thank you for watching. keep it right here. the number one business block continues with eric and cashing in. happy fourth of july. >> america is on alert. why you get fired up for the fireworks today. is isis looking for fireworks of its own? >> yesterday was a one-year anniversary of. of course the fourth of july, we know that there are possible -- they are possibly targeting fourth of july parades, according to the joint intelligence bulletin sent out bit the fbi and homeland security. all these things converging together create a scenario that i think is almost the perfect storm.

>> this is a day we're supposed to celebrate independence, not look over our shoulder every second. i want you to take a look at what happened at the d.c. navy yard thursday. >> there were reports of an active shooter, and thank god police gave an all clear soon after. look at the panic. will freedom ever win over fear and have the terrorists already won? >> well the administration is saying they're week and that we're in a good place, but if that's the case how come isis had three successful attacks in one day while we're sitting here worried about our safety? it's about time that we go on the offense when it comes to isis there are tobz of young naive people who are going to join isis, and the reason why is because isis is winning. these people want to be on the winning team. right now isis is. >> we are acting like the jv team. the joint task force, the fbi

and homeland security said you know bull ten, "holiday celebrations remain attractive targets. that's scary. >> it's totally scary. i was thinking about the fireworks this year. i live on the west side of the city there on the east river xshgs i can't say i wasn't a little bit relieved actually that they were on the other side. >> we can be doing better but they are out there, and you know michael hayden made great comments about this race. i can't say that we're lose but i certainly can't say that we're winning. i do think we're on the back side. >> they're also soddering manhole covers. i mean where are we? this doesn't feel like america. >> eric it's this idea of

fortress america. since 9/11 we've spent $7 trillion on homeland security and on defense, and militant islam is stronger now. it's better funded. it's more organized. these attacks are becoming more brazen. the fact we feel less safe rather than more safe on this fourth of july i think is an indication of just how ineffective not only obama, but the policies have been. >> you have a good point. listen. be fair and balanced about it. this is going on for a long time. do i really need to be looking over my shoulder at every single person that might be walking by all weekend? >> if we have a climate of fear in this country, it's -- i don't think it's deserved all the time. we are frightened of things that

occur right near us and as well we should be but if you look at the actual damage of anything since 9/11 it's been very small. >> okay. since 9/11 -- >> hang in there one second john. michelle are you in d.c. you remember the navy yard thing. that was based on someone hearing a noise, and next thing you know there's thousands of cops and swat and fbi in the area. had to cause the country and the city of d.c. millions. >> well i think that shows that isis is winning, right? the fact that we're living in fear and that we're going about our days scared that something might happen. i mean this is not something that is happening in a far away country. this is happening in auerbach yard. just this year alone, 50 people have been arrested in america trying to either help isis --

>> we need to call economies where they are. >> jessica -- >> between all of these -- >> lone wolf attacks, they're ebb couraging. >> the ideas are even more appealing for disaffected youth than a decade ago. >> let's stop talking with the state sponsors of terrorism like iran and swrab. maybe that's a first start. >> this is good transition. listen to what general hayden had to say. why we might be losing. maybe here's a way to grab the battle back. grab victory back. listen. >> we need to inflict battlefield defeats on them in

their homeland so they're not nearly as attractive it these folks globally. >> john would you agree with that? >> well that's it. we've tab a defensive posture. even listen to obama's rhetoric. we're not going destroy isis. we're going to degrade and ultimately defeat. there's this expectation now that this is going to be a decades long security matter as opposed to the notion of let's fight the enemy, let's destroy the enemy, and bring americans home. they can then celebrate the fourth of july. >> we've got sunnis on one side and shiite on the other. we should balance that power. we should support them fighting each other and killing each on or about where are why should we be doing it? that general is nuts. he wants to put americans over

there on the battlefield. i think he is skrazy. >> you have kurds in the north. they are terrific fighters. we don't need to put our people up there. we need to intli the kurds, and we don't need to do it through baghdad. we need to do it directly. if we did that with everything jordan et cetera et cetera we would be much better off. >> all right, jill. >> look we have a problem here brsh. if isis continues to advance, which is what they're doing, they're going to continue to get more recruits. we need to show that they're weak and that we're strong and that we are not going to -- if iraqa is their headquarters,

then start by leveling raqa. that would accepted a signal that the u.s. is serious. >> absolutely. i'm not sure anyone ever suggested we put american boots on the ground. you can certainly get arab boots -- when you say confront them then how? that's the problem right now. >> we had some week last week. cashin in trended nationally for the fifth consecutive week. our _#wake up america broke through the half a million mark. over 508,000 mechanicses over the last few days, and that was the top show on fox all saturday. i read all the tweets and facebook comments all of them and it helps shape this successful show. here are some of the most active friends on cashin in.

get on board the high speed train to truth. your opinion matters to us. coming up nbc, univision and macy's all telling donald you're fired. are these companies putting politics over business? we debate. you decide.

>> macy's just sfoeld d like a wet rag under the pressure. univision, well univision, i think is doing the work for mexico. it's incredible to watch. it's sad to watch. that's the problem with our country. it's so important to be politically correct. >> trump fired up the donald lashing out after being just canned by two major networks and

macy's this week. the company is upset over his controversial comments about immigration now. let me think. i think they're making a big mistake by choosing politics over business. >> he is not just a fool but he is a fraud. he puts himself out there as a businessman. he loves free trade, but it has to be negotiated. he is for the terrorists. he is for the intervention and the economy. >> where do you stand on this? >> look donald trump's show "celebrity apprentice" was the fourth highest rated show after football the voice, black list and then celebrity apprentice. he brought in millions of dollars. and he brought in millions of dollars for charity. no one seems to remember that.

>> they could fire us too. it's their business. it's -- that's what the free market is about. if trump can't survive in the free market then it's his problem. not theirs. >> i think he will survive. what about the poor models? these -- miss usa, there's 50 ladies from. >> they need to eat too. it depends on the company we're talking about. we're talking about nbc right now. nbc is the company that gives al sharpton a show. >> look i'm not a fan -- i'm not a fan of donald trump, but you are saying oh it makes sense because he is a fraud. um nbc went and backed brian

williams. brian williams is not that hones of a person, and they did it. what i'm saying is this is good if it's your brand and you are trying to protect your brand, and your brand is the company that gives al sharpton a show. then it makes sense. >> let's talk about this for a second. you may not like donald trump. >> he is number two in the latest fox news poll. he is number two behind jeb bush. >> we have a long way to go. i think this has a lot to do with name id. go to michelle's point about nbc having earl sharpton. that's the difference between opinion and ber at the same time. they hired al sharpton because he says those things. they knew what that product was. they didn't hire or support donald trump because they thought he would be saying nasty thing about mexicans.

you want to be on the right side of these issues. i think nbc made a great decision. he is bad for the brand. >> michelle. >> well i agree. i think in terms of nbc it's probably a smart decision. they don't want to be associated with him. macy's i'm not sure that was the greatest decision because i just don't see it as them having this political brand whereas nbc i understand. >> look at least wayne and john wayne first, at least is he bringing fresh new ideas. it's not the same old stale politician that is we're so used to. i can tell you the leader on both sides would never be taking a shot at nbc like this.

in that sense that causes people if you want to if you are getting ratings, if that's what are you looking for, turn in. >> i'm looking for a president who stands up for america who says he is not afraid to be politically incorrect and worry about what he is saying and someone who will stand up across the table from china and iran saying it lake-effect mazing during debates when he isotology call people out. >> there's a difference between a businessman and a president. the leader of the people doesn't make threats, doesn't fire folks with that kind of odd affect and doesn't alienate america's major corporatings.

if you want that as your president president. >> he has been doing this. >> do you not see a difference. does anyone like chris christie? >> no. >> i love him. >> flynn in the gop. it's the worst of the worst. >> what do you like about chris christie. he is not afraid to say what's on his mind. in one sense you say he is a brilliant politician, and then you can't -- >> he is practical and serious for this. >> christie has a track record. donald trump doesn't have one. >> you know -- >> maybe that. maybe that's exactly what we need. someone without the track record. especially if you look into it. i'm not that thrilled with chris christie's track record.

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be seeing throughout the day here on patriots point. we hope to hear from ow social media. back to you. >> today i can announce the united states has agreed to formally re-establish diplomatic relations with the country of cuba. we're getting cozy with cuba to the first time. the u.s. will reopen its embassy in havana, and cuba will open one in d.c. i take a lot of heat for being pro-cuba but i'm standing by it. it's a tremendous business opportunity for american

growers, the construction industry. the opportunities are limitless. 11 million new customers just 90 miles off our shores. do you agree? >> hola. yeah no i'm in favor of normalizing relations. i think we got a bad deal. i think in exchange we should have demanded that cube why put a stop to human rights abuses and allowed for political freedom. in terms of the economy, it this will be good. the fact we didn't have relations with cuba was really bad. we were losing over a billion dollars a year for our economy. they're not a military threat anymore, but to michelle's point, there's still a communist dictator ship. they still jail political prisoners and beat them up. i just don't think we should dignify this dictatorship, and we don't need to have an embassy there. we don't need to meet with castro. i just don't think we should meet with countries that routinely violent its citizens'

rights. >> are you saying we shouldn't have trade with cuba? >> i think we can have trade like we do have russia, but i don't think that we should dignify them by putting american soil that's what an embassy is putting american soil in a communist dictatorship country. >> do the math on me here. where is guantanamo bay? i think that's american as well. >> what are your thoughts on normalizing relations with cuba? >> i think it's a prisy attitude to have this moral thing about how, oh, they are communist and they're bad and this and that. the best thing can you do is always put an embassy in a country. it allows you to start a spy system and do all of the covert things that you want to do. that's what this is about. this shouldn't be about -- >> i don't think it's a prissy thing to want people to have human rights. >> i haven't finished sweetheart. be quiet for a minute. >> oh, sweetheart?

really? okay. >> to put a moral blessing on this is all wrong. this is a practical thing. >> this is a perfect thing for us to do. >> next time we'll go with bonita. you're in favor of this jess? >> i am in favor of it but i wasn't thinking so much about the money options, which i get the opportunities there, but thinking about the fkt that our policy was a huge failure here but now we have the opportunity to really push civil society on the ground and promote democracy, better human rights records just as michelle was saying. i think that we can really make changes in cuba by having access. >> what about making changes at home? we promote -- >> but that was a block. this is c block now. where he we made a deal with cuba, but -- >> you just said an opportunity to promote democracy there. that's not a responsibility. >> it is our responsibility. >> we have to go guys but

don't forget our -- you'll be -- we could probably put a million new jobs in the construction industry on that island day one if we really really tried. guys we ran out of time. i'm sorry. we got to go. coming up united we stand, divided we fall. how the white house can bring all of ame

>> time to wake up america. this week president obama celebrated the same-sex marriage ruling from the supreme court by lighting the white house in the gay pride rainbow. lighting the white house in the gay pride rainbow. look as a conservative -- i accept the supreme court's decision but many americans are upset. i am questioning the use of the white house as a political billboard, especially when the message is controversial and not necessarily representative of all americans' views. you have to admit those colors can be divisive. i had an idea. since it's america's 239th birthday a day to celebrate our freedoms and liberties, how about you light the white house with colors that aren't divisive? red, white, and blue. three colors that no patriotic american should have a problem with adorning the white house because, mr. president, rather than always dividing the country lang race lines, along jeshd lines, and along religious lines, how about just this one

time you promote some unity. red, white, and blue lights on the white house. might be tonight. you can go back to dividing us next week. the hat and it's lou dobbs, fox business, have a great weekend. lou: good evening, everybody. i'm lou dobbs. growing concerns that the islamic state could attack this country over our 4th of july holiday. americans around the country are accustomed to heightened security warnings at independence daytime. in fact, it's become almost an annual routine. but we're told this time is different. security experts say that the year long rise of the islamic state is at the foundation of that difference. leaders of the radical islamist terrorist group have been urging supporters to attack over the holy month of ramadan which ends july 17