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traded to dallas congressman ron desantis talking about the massive government that led 22 million people losing social security numbers and a whole lot of things including more faith in the administration. neil cavuto, take it away. >> and a few more details on what they are trying to announced in greece right now and that could explain we are up on the doubt. i'll be going to connell mcshane in just a second. some of the details are concessions much bigger than early the case in greece. the very thing a week ago is something by comparison today. we are told that greeks are willing to consider a higher vat tax that may be substantially higher for richer folks but cannot hire hotel and related leisure industry that would directly affect vacationers. oddly enough that would include german vacationers.
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higher real estate taxes on foreign buyers fear higher fees to buy greek properties. all of this at a time the european central bank is considering a 3.5 alien dollars got us over the hump loan. greece has to make good on that. if they don't they were in default although verbally they've been in default for some time here. the details that matter is they are close and could avoid sunday. it's way too early to tell. tell that to the guys here we have a big uptick on the day. connell mcshane with us now. if this is a deal that isn't done yet or optimism, there's other underpinnings. connell: could be. it is back-and-forth we go.
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the chinese market now falling apart. we like to rally and the market of spell out spirit you and i were talking yesterday about how the greek prime minister alexa is a tsipras if he was going to cut a deal he would have to go against his own party and austerity measures because he is adamant in saying we are not for austerity. they will have to make concessions are the reports he's doing just that and the germans have to break a little bit. we are in bailout mode right now. neil: you've got a sense and you follow this, celebrating may be the wrong thing. we will get into this in the show a lot today that we are celebrating essentially massive government intervention here. connell: sometimes we associate the market rally. i don't know if they are happy
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one way or another. their own personal lives may be again what happens when governments or companies or anybody gets bailed out. but then they look a portfolio since i am not in support of this but it doesn't matter. make a few bucks on it. that's always been the case. going back to 08 when back to a late planet with our bailout happening here happening here from t.a.r.p. on down. they knew they could make some money by making the right bid on it. neil: it didn't hurt anyone in the process. thank you, connell mcshane. looking up what is going on here, if it is rescued on the idea we will get certainty out of the region of the world that is anything but certain, we've got dave on this. i am wondering whether we are celebrating the wrong thing and that is that this should be an deal far more onerous to the greeks and the one that overwhelmingly reject it a week ago.
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are we getting ahead of ourselves? >> i don't know. when i think markets, the idea of making a deal or reaching a bailout deal makes them feel that anytime there's a really big problem, the government will swoop in and salvage and take away the risk factor. same thing watching the chinese government desperately try to do the same thing in china. the ultimate result of the guys on wall street is to say somebody there with a government -- will step in the going gets rough. if so, that means i can take more risk and this so that means that the prices are fundamentally higher. >> our conversations over these many years do you don't fight the fed, you don't fight governments trying to help. to call most earlier point, so be it.
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>> exactly. i think what we are celebrating, we've got in the mode is something we started to celebrate the last 20 years. the celebration of kicking the can down the road. for the next five, 10, 20 years, we don't have to worry about that. the point you are implying is here we have all the entitlements ending that we just kind of ignored. the problem with greece is they are overspending i doubt will go away, the corruption. the problem with countries paid to the euro is only going to get worse because spain and portugal and france and italy are still tied to it. but you know, my gosh, we don't have to worry today so let's buy. neil: you know, one of the things i saw in the details as they do a lot of this through higher taxes. a higher vat tax, but they are looking at higher cable related
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taxes, higher real estate related taxes. they're looking at lifting pensions or the eligibility age from 61 to 63 in some cases. but the bottom line is much of the burden will be dealt with for higher taxes. i don't know if that is such a tonic. what do you make of it. >> i don't think that it's a tonic at all. a nonproductive economy in which it is for roddick and feels like it is hard to get ahead a new gadget tax for it. why work harder, why take risks, why go put in a steel extra hours or that second job. the result is no vibrancy, no animal spirits making the greek people rush forward. will take the more out might not be a problem with the european
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union but it's not going to solve the problem with the soul of the economy. neil: thank you votes very, very much. i also want to keep you updated. the fed chair will be speaking to the cleveland economic clout. people wonder whether what is going on in that part of the world is going to give pause to think in the federal reserve will increase rates in the fall. we have comments. i know the answer. i am not sharing it with you. i want you to keep watching. for my libertarian presidential candidate gary johnson. the ipas who put off in the world is going crazy, governor. raising interest rates. by that definition we can never raise interest rates. what you think. governor, can you hear us? >> here is the situation -- can here me? neil: there is a slight delay.
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>> you've got politicians that are promising the moon to people and you know what, the kitchens come home to roost and that is what is happening right now. somebody has to pay for that point and this is of course the euro to collapse the greece may be forced to leave the euro. that situation may be a portend for what is happening in the country. neil: when you look at the crop of presidential candidates, to keep you updated there are 212. do you ever look at them and say not one is talking about the real gut decisions we have to make, the stuff you're advocating. >> not one of them is talking about the tough calls. not one of them talking about the issues and what we really have to face up with. it is just amazing. what is amazing on the
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republican side right now, the fact that you may have three settings than others, governors that are going to be included in the debate, which is really something phenomenal. we would like to hear, america wants to hear about tough love and what they ought to do is set up a form not where all the republicans get a minute and 30 seconds to make their case as opposed to a debate for a debate where you come up with certain percentage to get in the debate. ultimately it is not fair. the name familiarity rules the day. you've got jeb bush and donald trump that have that name familiarity. >> can you imagine the cockamamie network that came up with those rules. wait, that is us. governor, thank you. good to see you again. just to update you on greece to get together a deal, new year
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the july 20th deadline for the greeks have to pay the european central bank 3.5 billion euros, $3.8 billion on sort of a financial lifeline payment. technically missing the payment would impair in the fall. this is all semantics. to ashley webster and not the investor how close they are. ashley webster, there's great time another time and every time i get close to this we turn out to be not so close at all. what is your feeling? reporter: it's very frustrating. beginning to understand what it's like in your creditor. one promise after another. everything happens at the last minute and sometimes not at all. the debate goes on inside the parliament building
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10:00 tonight, 3:00 p.m. eastern they will vote on the proposal that has been sent to brussels. certainly if you remember the referendum last sunday it was this dollar 61% of people saying no to more scary, no to the european creditors that are making our life absolutely miserable. we have a rally starting behind me in a short time. what good that will do at this point i'm not sure. they are handing out flyers because greek is a little bit rusty. the measures are unacceptable. we must drop out of the euro zone. the greek government doesn't want that to happen. assuming the measure is approved here, they will look in brussels and get the once over from several groups and may be approved by tomorrow. if that happens you can forget the e.u. summit set for sunday but all 20 nations get together. they love to have a meeting. they have meetings to discuss when they will have the next
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meeting. neil: if i understand you correctly, supportive enough today going into tomorrow there is no point. all of that stuff is unnecessary. >> absolutely. the eurozone finance ministers given a look at the ecb and they say this looks good. they may end up with the leaders delighted to do. neil: ashley, thank you very much. great reporting as always. this will come out in stages. also let you know we will be keeping ni on genocide five. she is speaking in cleveland to a lot of people a lot of people facing anonymous pressure. i am not saying do not raise rates in the middle of this. we know you are talking about it. we don't think it's a good idea given everything occurring in the globe. she is addressing that in 18
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mass has been on fire. she's not up to the task. the scene at the white house right now getting ready to address the press. we will keep going live to the podium. just to show that if we go to a voting, something big is about to happen. they say it is 22.1 million. now how widespread is this, what kind of data did they get. 7% of the u.s. workforce. he's not pleased with what he hears. as a hacking expert extraordinaire, you know what they could get their hands on. but he can take up their hands on here? >> certainly backgrounds for those of us who work in government in terms of social security numbers, any type of personal information about family, any account numbers, just imagine as much detail keeping a security safety about.
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been available >> anyone that extends way beyond of the job. >> even though it's turned on one reason or another might have another job at information exposed. so much information out there. there's a 21 million aside and think of the data on the black market right now. there aren't enough organizations, not enough bad guys to sell it. it is like having a commodity that is huge and not having organizations or people get rid of it. this is backed up and stored for years. neil: i understand a lot of eager parties about to get their hands on this stuff. it begins with hackers. but then china, north korea, isis could buy this stuff, get
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this stuff. and then what? >> i fear it is used in the wrong way. this is all out there on the black market. it is all for sale and there's not enough people to buy. if you were working for a foreign government you want to get someone in the u.s. to have them cooperate with you to be a spy. you'll start to threat their family and expose issues in their past that could have a negative effect on their life for their family's life. these are the things we worry about in government. just look on the private side just as bad. personal medical information is all over. >> that is what we know now. but 22.1 million that were more than 8 million a year hundred week ago. >> last year was 27% of u.s. companies lost over a million dollars all in. 50,000 to 1 million over
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1 million by 7% and 50 to 100,000 with 19%. 27% lost something accountable last year. that is just business. all of our governments, infrastructure, business, we are at risk. neil: robber, thank you very much. we are showing you can mention some of the heroes of the government for when they first report sent in and they have just get worse and worse. it will probably get worse or not. in the meantime, jeb bush is raising a great deal of money. that you know. this is unheard of. what if i told you he doesn't have total control of that. why can be a good thing and a bad thing. we are all over this.
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neil: we are bac neil: we are back. market rally time per year in the fox business network following what is an optimistic day on wall street with hopes that we talked about earlier that there will be a bailout worked out for the graces that is what all indications of ashley webster told us at this point. the top 220 points. s&p 500 wrap up today. nasdaq sub by 1.5%. technology shares in general have been doing well today. apple downsized sessions in a row. technology stocks doing well and there's a look at netflix also to the upside. china of today's in a row. optimism about greece in the midst of a healthy market rally to wrap up the week. neil: connell, thank you very much. let's go live.
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[laughter] we will keep you posted there. we've got fox business. charlie gaspari now with us on not only about the jeb bush. how much money jeb bush is racing now north of 150 billion. a lot of money. >> there was some point the "washington post" that he wasn't going to come close to god. i was wondering why they would do something like that out when you know and talk to donors in new york and washington, wall street corridor that there's so many wall street guys lining up to give money. >> even as others were emerging, they cap -- >> what i heard as fundraisers
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for telling people to back off. save your gunpowder for later. he basically could've made double that number. i know he told people to back off. save your gunpowder. thus the word out by now. that underestimates the amount he can raise. attractive candidate for wall street. i'm not saying jeb bush -- he's a nice guy, a good guy was a very good governor. his ties to walls or eight, need to be explained. he worked for lehman brothers, catalyst of the financial crisis. he actually was a small part of their internal laughter to survive, bail themselves out. he had a conversation with the mexican billionaire about saving the men and some way. neil: for that purpose or to talk about his speech? >> =-equal-sign .-center-dot.
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just so you know, here is what really has me concerned. when i approached him with this, they gave me at least five bs answers. it's not like i haven't covered this stuff. it is possible they are. neil: they don't like you. >> but they are hiding something. train to it is not all directly under the bush campaign's control. the outside groups that can do what they want, when they want, advertise what they want. always generally helpful to the candidate. but not all the time. mitt romney in the past has complained about pacs that work on his behalf they didn't put the money where the campaign was. it's not a problem for bush? >> it could be theoretically. sometimes he used that to your advantage. a pac came out with a horrible
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ad about mitt romney blaming him and his company for taking insurance away from some guy who basically they pac that did the commercial, that blamed mitt romney for some workers. that was very good for president obama. is beyond my control. remember these wild dog attack ads, you don't want to completely associate with yourself you can use that to your advantage. >> often times they put the money with the campaign thinks it isn't wise. a few years ago mitt romney was just about to go not over rick santorum are emerging as a threat that the pac on his behalf was much more attention
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than newt gingrich and campaign operatives were told no, no, no, we want you to help put away this guy santorum. >> it's really tricky when you have a republican primary. if jeb bush was running unopposed benches almost seven straight credit. if there was jeb versus hillary, it would matter. you wouldn't have to make a strategic decision. neil: it's better to have the money then not. >> wouldn't you -- right. it also shows he can match hillary dollar for dollar. neil: it's interesting what you said. he could've raised a lot more. charlie gasparino, thank you.
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we've been pointing out about 226 points us to miss them that they are closing in on greece. china seeming to ease a lot of fears rampant earlier in the week helping matters as well. and then all the attention in cleveland as to whether she feels the pressure and heat from abroad and development to stable hiking interest rates. peter barnes out there. >> despite the economic turmoil internationally, europe and china threatening the u.s. economy. janet yellen says for now that keeps her on track to start raising interest rates in the second half depending how the economic data rolls in. she will say based on my outlook i expect it will be appropriate at some point this year to take the first step to raise the federal funds rate and must begin normalizing monetary policy.
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i want to emphasize the course of the economy remains highly uncertain and unanticipated development could delay or accelerate the first. they will be watching. she added the recent decline in on employment rate masks continued problems such as millions of workers employed part-time for economic partners who want full-time work. they have to be reasonably confident they race back to a two to 3% target. as for the global economy while europe's economy is on a firmer footing the situation remained unresolved. she does not mention slower growth in the stock market correction in china one of our biggest trading partners. neil: still steady as ago. thank you very much. we're also hearing "the new york times" and reuters among others
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that the office of personnel management director, catherine parker led a highs resigned. the massive data breach has now affected north of 22 million largely federal workers and those for government contracts that grew in cap mushrooming way beyond the first reporting getting bigger and bigger. when she was questioned on this, she more or less told critics to buy off. now she is now. more after this.
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. neil: all right, i don't know if this news has anything do with it, take a look with the dow up 1 9 point, up 235 points prior to news janet yellen speaking in cleveland. she is inclined to raise rates later this year. that contrary to popular belief and the pressure from the imf and the global economic ministers alike jawboning her to cool it on raising rates. now is not the time given the instability certainly in greece and everywhere else, and particularly the volatile nature of the chinese markets. she seemed to indicate at least in this planned speech that is not going to happen. she is steady as she goes for a possible rate hike in the fall. that took a little bit of the wind out of the sails today. also, we are getting reports out of the new york sometimes and reuters and ap
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that katherine archuleta resigned, she was in charge of the office that revealed in dribs and drabs, upwards of 12 million federal workers and federal worker applications had been compromised as a result of just falling into the wrong hands. we don't know whose hands, so many affected by the government harks she has heeded to the pressure. some republicans yesterday were saying you are out of here. today she appears to be out of there. that is the latest on that. i do want to get to boon pickens and what he makes of the developments before we discuss oil. boon, on some of the developments, first on higher rates, still set for later this year. what do you think about that and what janet yellen is saying? >> i think you're going to have higher rates is what's going to happen. neil: okay, well, that answers that. the next item, this whole thing with opm and the compromised
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records at 22 million workers, those who apply for federal jobs. does it concern you? get back to the idea we're getting this stuff in the hands of the wrong guys? >> i don't know. that's not my area. let's talk about oil and gas. neil: okay, there was a point to this, because you scared me there, you answered that very rudely. my point was -- [ laughter ]. neil: my point was, in all seriousness, you think we should not leave ourselves exposed to opec, you worry about the way the nature of the world is getting. so many hackings and stuff going on, doesn't that speak to the oil independence, gas independence to which you opine. what do you think? >> well, that's what i've been after for ten years. neil: that's what i meant, if you listened to me, that's what i meant, you slapped me down in the beginning. >> okay, okay. but we -- here we are with more
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resources of oil and gas in the country and that's a true story, but there's not a question to debate that. but we, you know, get off the opec oil and quit paying for both sides of the war is where we are. neil: i see your point, it's a very good one. you succeeded, you started saying this a few years back and spent a lot of your own money to push this one, better than $100 million, this is a signature issue of our times. now did it almost get too good. fear among oil producers and the gas business, hey, wait a minute, fracking and everything else and our ample natural gas supplies, the price of these things go crashing down, over supply, a big problem, you're saying $70 oil. why? >> well, $70 oil, neil, you've
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got thousand rigs laid down now, and you have inventories coming down. good. and consequently you're going to roll over. have you on the bakken, it's now declining, also eagleford, west texas will do the same thing. what you're going to have is you have demand. demand is excellent. we're right on two million barrels a day for demand for the year, and consequently you're here -- two, three months, you're going to get tight for oil and pressure comes back up and you'll be at $70 barrel for the year. neil: are you looking at economy picking up? i look at greece and the swings and extremes in china this past week, i'm not so sure, what do you see that maybe others don't? >> i'm not afraid of china, and greece is not a factor, and you
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are going to de-- demand is good, we're halfway through the year and on track for two million barrels a day. we started off at a million five, and there's no question cheaper gasoline gets higher demand for oil you. >> also mentioned it's important to take advantage of this, i don't think those are your words, but the brief interim where we have the low gas prices, low oil prices, certainly the low nat gas prices. what did you mean by that? to leverage off of that and do what? >> i didn't hear the last part about the natural gas. >> the natural gas prices are very, very low or lower, and we should, in this environment, energy prices are lower, that we should be seizing on this. did i get that right? >> well, natural gas prices are, you know, you're so oversupplied in the united states with natural gas, that you have, you know, priced
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$2.70 in mcf. neil: what is mcf? >> what is that? neil: mcf, what is that, i'm sorry? >> $2.75 a million cubic feet of gas. neil: of course, of course. >> that's what you're natural gas is priced at right now. >> okay, and you think -- >> let me give you a comparative figure. neil: sure. >> okay. parity with oil is 6-1 natural gas. so oil at $50 a barrel, natural gas would be $8 parity. $8 in the mcf, and here we are $2.75. so you are, you're well, well below parity with oil. neil: why is that the case? >> too much natural gas, we are overwhelmed with natural gas. we're 75% cheap or natural gas
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than the rest of the world. we're 15% cheaper on oil than the rest of the world, and half the price of gasoline. so you have the cheapest energy in america than anyplace in the world. neil: you know, you dismissed earlier the drama over greece and maybe you're right, i know, people say in economic terms it's like oregon in the scheme of things to what we make a big fuss about it. the fears are it's part of a contagion and bad and europe is vulnerable, et cetera. do you in largely dismissing that, you see the greater world economy as doing okay, right? >> i do, sure. world economy is pretty good. is it booming? no. the united states is not booming either. but i can tell you a lot of -- you've had a lot of people go out of work with the price of oil at $50 a barrel, but those people are finding jobs pretty
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quick. so our economy is okay. neil: you still like jeb bush for the republican nomination for president? >> jeb bush is who i'm -- and we're going to win, we will win in 16. neil: why do you say that? the economy is doing -- if the economy is doing well, wouldn't be that the wind at hillary clinton's back? >> i don't think so because if you look at what happened to obama when he came in, he had the house and senate, he's lost them both now. he's set up to lose the presidency, and historically, you know, two times for any party in a row and out the next time. so no, i think hillary loses. neil: interesting. boone, always good seeing you, thank you very much. >> one more thing. neil: sure. >> you didn't ask me about my orange shirt. neil: i didn't want to embarrass you, but go ahead. >> from a state night at the ranger park, and i will throw
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. neil: yesterday at this time, republicans were demanding she quit. today the opm director did just that. blake burman in washington with the very latest. >> reporter: hi, neil, remember the white house yesterday as well when they were asked by reporters, they were standing by katherine archuleta yesterday. she told reporters as well she would not step down. here we are at 12:45 friday afternoon, and katherine archuleta has done just that. according to archuleta and the white house, the director of the office of personnel management resigned earlier this morning, the president accepted that resignation.
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of course, this all stems from opm saying yesterday that the hack believed to be by the chinese isn't 4 million people or even a little more than that, it's actually about 22 million people, and not just government employees, folks who tried to get security clearance over the last 15 years from the opm. we can tell you that beth kobeert who works with the office of management and budget will step into the new role, and archuleta ends in a few hours from now, at the close of this. neil? neil: thank you very much, blake burman in washington. keeping an eye on the markets right now, you heard the news that as far as the federal reserve is concerned and janet yellen inclined to raise rates this year, despite treaties from europe to cool them on that. stave them off, she is not inclined to do that. that's janet yellen. see how it's affecting a tense trading floor. let's go live at corner of wall and broad on this incredibly
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. >> in terms of the bond market bubble that everyone is talking about, how worried are that you that has implication throughout global markets? >> quite. just think about in terms of the issue the concern everyone has about the level of debt. think of what the level of debt means when interest rates move. the interest costs because prohibitive. neil: i think that was alan greenspan telling maria bartiromo another case of irrational exuberance into the market and ahead of itself, and any slight uptick in rates will
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be a big kablooey for a lot of folks, quarter point increase on $18 trillion debt, you do the math, it automatically builds it up close to 19 trillion at the wave of a wand to. cato analyst ann mitchell how great it is. especially when we hear the present federal reserve chairman janet yellen is inclined to raise rates later this year. that might mean longer-term rates over which he has no control come down, it's all a moot point. but clearly janet yellen is wrestling with the bubble issue as well, right? >> i think there are two things we have to be concerned about. first, if rates do go up with all the existing government debt we have, that's going add to the fiscal burden on taxpayers. secondly, if we have a bubble and that bubble bursts, that causes instability in financial markets. either way, i think the lesson we should be learning is maybe we shouldn't have had artificially low interest rates in the first place that encouraged all this debt.
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neil: and no easy way to unwind that or slightly back away from that, right? even when janet yellen, she doesn't hint, she all but says now that the rate hikes are coming. there is no easy way to calm the markets with that reality, is there? >> i'm afraid not. i wish i had great answer to that, but here's the problem, you're blowing up a bubble, the bubble is getting bigger and bigger, stopping is going to be painful because all of a sudden the people counting on riding the bubble say wait, where's the easy money? give us a couple of hits of booze or something. if you blow it up farther and farther, when it bursts another year in the future, the economic damage will be that much greater. i'm sympathetic to what yellen is trying to do. she's saying maybe we should cut ourselves off after seven drinks instead of eight drinks. people in the financial markets are nervous about that. neil: i like the drink analogy,
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i understood that right off the to. as we get close to the top of the hour, the federal reserve indicating still on track for a rate hike later this year. didn't specify then. she would -- it appears despite everything in europe and everywhere else, it ain't going to happen. stick around, you're watching "coast-to-coast." more after this.
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. >> breaking news on "cavuto: coast-to-coast," connell mcshane talking about cybersecurity stocks. this time the head of the office of personnel management katherine archuleta has resigned from her position as the data breach that we've been reporting on, and neil's mentioned this a number of times on this show, has just grown into something a lot of people didn't see coming. 22 million americans affected by all of this. as that's been happening, not the only story related to this in the news.
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as that's been happening, the cybersecurity stocks on the board almost like acting as an advertisement. the stock up 50% year to date. many 30, 40, 50% year to date. and today, along with the rest of the market, i think it's fair to point out they are having a good day, some better days than the broader market. those have been, neil, the stocks to watch in general because the news headlines are reminding people you need a lot of protection, and the story reminds us of that yet again. neil: connell, thank you very much. we are waiting on the better white house explanation of everything that's going down fast and furious on the opm resignation. first to charles payne what he makes of the market response thus far. what do you think, charles? >> a good response, this is what we wanted. i had a chance to interview several congressmen pushing for this. i think the american people want a whole lot more. this is good, hopefully this -- ms. archuleta won't be assigned
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somewhere else, given more duties. we have seen this too often. if you went to the website, office of personnel management, mission is to recruit, retain and honor a working class force to serve the american people. you just did a major disservice to not only those people but all americans. 7% of our information is out there. china has it selling to the highest bidder, personal, critical information. neil: i don't know getting rid of the head of that agency solves anything, as you and i discovered in the case of the va abuses, no firings going on. the fact of the matter is these kind of things keep happening, no matter who's in charge. it's the institution itself oftentimes that doesn't seem up to the task. >> it's the institution itself but also an aura. earlier this week, a basketball player who could have made 12 million dollars opted to make 1.5 million to play with a winner. he wanted the aura of playing with the winner. i hate to pick on the administration.
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we have drifted in this country, and you see dissatisfaction among secret service agents and fbi, dissatisfaction rightfully so with fighting men and women and the aura that -- tsa, it goes on and on. the thing where people don't have the pride or commitment and management, the upper levels, and drifts out to the folks who work for them the whole thing stinks. >> i always think there is thirst to take someone's head, and some satisfaction on a brute level to say we fired her, she is out of here in this case. others in other cases. but the sins continue. overlap continues. the lack for strength continues. >> the marching orders have to be different to your point. neil: and heightened sense of urgency about this. >> oh, yeah. to your point, if this is good enough, symbolic and ultimately means nothing to 22 million
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americans today, probably means nothing to an american general. if you don't change the aura and mission, get back to what you said on the website, if you don't make that true, we don't believe you. neil: connell was touching on this, started with 3 or 4 million and upped it to 13 million, now 22 million. we know that number too will be raised here. and a lot of times this is a result of hackers who sell to the highest bidder, could be china, iran, russia, could be all of the above. could be isis, we don't know. bottom line it's in people's hands who we don't want it to be. >> health records have been showing up on the internet for sale, 500 bucks. your information, people can get it, buy it, they can do a lot of things with it, get insurance with it. impersonate you. on sale on the internet around the world. doesn't matter who's selling it, it's your information they will have in your hands. neil: i can't stress enough, those who applied for federal contract jobs, even if they didn't get it.
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that application, the answers are all there. >> that's how you get the number. 22 million. neil: exponentially rises. if you could do a little more this week, i think you should pull your weight around here. >> someone was talking to me about that. neil: the men's room is a mess. we're not going to the commercial. tonight get the reaction from former covert cia operative, valerie plame. this kind of thing is always a perennial problem, i don't care whether it's republican or democrat. institutions that fail us and leave a lot of americans wondering what else are they screwing up? she's out of there at the opm, is that going to change things in your eyes? >> thank you for having me. well, it's a start to. they she did not inspire confidence i think is an understatement. but your previous guest is absolutely right, it's clearly systemic. we don't have faith in our institutions, right, because
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when it first -- the news first dribbled out, 4 million people, bad enough. now up to 22 million. but from my former cia operation perspective, this is catastrophic. not only are people's personal information available for sale on the internet. that's terrible as it is, identity theft. but through the perspective of counterintelligence, if indeed, we don't know for sure, if indeed china is behind this, they have access to all sorts of personal information that can be used against us for blackmailing, to make it easy, much easier to identify our covert operatives overseas. it is a huge national security problem. >> you mentioned, valerie, china, that name constantly comes up, north korea as well. but once they have the data, whether they were behind it or not or whether they buy it on the black market, they can do a lot of stuff with that.
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you mentioned covert operatives we have around the world and you compromise their security. it goes wider than that, right? could you explain? >> indeed, because all the information that they have, it's apparently not only those that applied for and acquired federal positions. it's their family, it's their friends. that is gold. working as a cia officer overseas in a covert capacity, which i did, that information is absolutely precious because that's how you exclude it. that's how you find out what people's proclivities are, vulnerabilities, weaknesses and move in hopefully to target and recruit them. now whoever is behind this, again, i'm reluctant, we don't know for sure if it's china. whoever it is, it's clearly there for sale, and bad news. neil: bad news is right. valerie, thank you very much, valerie plame wilson on the fast breaking developments.
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the opm director resigned. josh earnest is addressing questions on this very issue right now as to how many other americans' records were compromised. you hear this 22.1 million figure and you think they are all federal workers. they're not. they could be contract workers or those who applied for government contract jobs, private citizens records could be compromised, medical, financial, you name it. it's dangerous stuff. all right, to greece right now, ashley webster how things are going there in athens. right now they could have the measure on the table that looks closer to something that they like, that is both sides like, of course, we've been this way before, ashley. but tell us where we stand. >> reporter: we have, things got a lot noisier outside of the greek parliament building. let me pull aside and show you the very large crowd that has gathered outside. these are mainly trade unionists, organized by the communist party who are
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apparently furious with the proposal that the greek government has put forward, which does contain some very harsh austerity measures, harsher than the ones in the no vote last week. they are calling for a no on the current proposal and for greece to fall out of the eurozone. so that message i'm sure could be heard in the greek parliament building just off to the side of this large crowd, neil. but the vote on the proposal inside the parliament building here expected maybe in the next two to three hours, and it is expected to pass. i have a feeling this crowd is going to get more angry, but the biggest story is will the eu creditors accept it? will they believe the greek government can put the reforms in place? they promised before and they've broken the promises, neil. we'll see what happens. certainly this crowd tonight making a lot of noise. >> i know it's very loud, if you'll indulge a question from me.
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sounds like these measures are tougher than the ones voters rejected just last week, and yet the greek officials are pushing this with the lenders, they agree there is no more referendum, it sounds like the folks behind you are against it have to swallow it, or does that mean this whole thing is a bigger social nest because the greeks don't want anything to do with it? >> reporter: yeah, that's a good question. i mean, yes, they will have to swallow it. are they happy about it? absolutely not. you're going to see a lot more of the demonstrations, that's for sure. the last time i was here, neil, there was a lot of riot police and tear gas and a lot of violence. haven't seen one bit of that this time around. all civilized, vocal, and very calm, and tonight even, they're upset but no means in a combative mood. we have riot police hiding behind bushes. i guess not to antagonize the
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situation, but they are going to have to swallow it and not going to be happy, and that may be a challenge for greece's prime minister alexis tsipras, he's under a lot of pressure to stay in government. and there is a belief he may be replaced if the deal goes through. neil: incredible. thank you very much, ashley weblwe webster. another fellow watching closely, not too far, a few miles east, would be vladimir putin in russia. of course, he and the greek prime minister have had a number of meetings, right, gary? i guess the prime minister feels he could always talk to vlad, right? >> we know that putin has been supporting radical forces in europe both on the left side and the right side, and russia has been supporting the other party, the ally of the ruling college in greece. the first person to visit
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tsipras after he was elected was russian ambassador. the first person tsipras called after the referendum was vladimir putin, only after this call he called hollande and christine lagarde, the head of imf. naturally in his own interest. even tsipras recognizes that putin is not going to save greece, it is to split europe. neil: you think they're at the stage, the european lenders and creditors are at this stage with tsipras because of the fear of putin? >> yes and no. i think this is when we look at the international scene now, we recognize that if you show weakness and we can talk about iran first in the negotiation, if you demonstrated no bottom line, that you wanted it so badly, have you no leverage and you are on a losing streak. so chancellor merkel shows strengths and demonstrated
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clearly that germany would walk away. so she made clear to greek government that's the end of the story. up to the go as putin? good luck. neil: and calculated the greek people, the same ones protesting out there would much sooner stay in the euro than befriend vladimir putin. >> the big charitable conference, doing promotion. my feeling was as much as they hated the historic deal, they did not want to leave the eurozone. greece belongs to europe. they're part of a very, very powerful international community. neil: do you get a sense, though, that if this is forced down a lot of these greek protesters's throats, something that was more onerous than something they overwhelmingly rejected last week, this is not going to be accepted, happily, contentedly or peacefully?
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>> yes, but at the end of the day, they have no choice, you have enough people in greece that recognize it. neil: you don't think tsipras tries to play the vlad card? >> tsipras tried, but merkel recognized the bluff. that's the difference. that's why i want to compare the negotiations in greece versus -- >> i understand, on iran, talks delayed, they think they're close. iranians think we're giving them the runaround. where do you think this is going? >> i believe russia has been sabotaging the talks in the beginning. neil: how so? >> russia helping iran get out of sanctions. russia has iran as part of the axis. neil: he talks about, oh, this is a good thing if we have a deal like this? >> don't forget, if iran finds a good deal with america and walks out of the sanction zone, the oil prices drop. having putin inside of these
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negotiation team, you know, it was a fundamental mistake, and we were shocked to hear time and again that this administration keeps repeating. we could deal with russia and iran in other issues. at the end of the day, having russia inside can't mean russia is going to help you. and a very, very brief comment about the big story of today's news about stealing this sensitive data from millions and millions of americans. that shows the fundamental flaw of obama foreign policy. weakness is not respected in the world these days. weakness is being punished. america looks weak. america looks pathetic. and that's why china, whoever, they believe they can go, you know, after millions and millions of files, steal them. neil: without repercussions. >> absolutely. neil: divine ignorance, they say we didn't do it. >> they know obama is in office for another 500+ days. this is the time they can go after america without being
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afraid of retaliation. neil: garry kasparov, thank you, you make people think. let's take a look what's going on in the stock market. despite all the worries that garry very, very nicely laid out here. buyers are still buying, stocks are still a bargain, and they see what's going on in greece despite the disruptions, it's a sign it will put the unsettled development to rest. the trouble with wall street and the trouble with the thinking of the financial community as it goes from crisis and crisis and wants to put them to bed for the moment to get uncertainty out of the way. what happens is uncertainties can be temporarily put to bed. they cannot be permanently put to rest. stick around. much more after this. ♪ i built my business with passion. but i keep it growing by making every dollar count.
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. neil: all right, take a look what's going on downtown, network, city hall, had ticker-tape parade, and the united states winning women's soccer team is having a powwow here with no less the mayor bill de blasio. he was among those pushing hard for the ticker day parade. he didn't have the $2 million to pay for it. we're told companies kicked in maybe half a million dollars but new york city taxpayers are on the hook for the rest. i'm sure today most of them don't mind at all. and certainly to celebrate the winning team here, but for de blasio this is pr gold, and for the players, of course, deserve recognition of their incredible achievement. i understand winning a world cup is a pretty big deal. but you didn't hear that from me. switch to what's going on in greece, you hear how they are very, very close to a deal. i should outline part of the deal isn't what you think, though. some of the provisions are to
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raise taxes. we go through some of the key elements of this here. a lot of people are looking for concessions out of the greeks. they are raising taxes. they are hiking the value added tax, they are hiking hotel tax, most tourists would be most adversely of this, the very country integral to this aid package that greece is really depending on. all of this is built essentially on tax increases, which is what bugs geena louden, conservative columnist, entitlements, the big benefit programs that have been the bain of greek's existence and ours are not addressed in a big way, what do you make of that? >> not addressed at all, neil. this is mitigated greed, a
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byproduct or precursor of socialism. what conservatives are constantly trying to warn, it's happened here, look at detroit, what's happening in california. we have something to learn from what's happening to greece. if you take simple things, neil, like just any inflated wages, any inflated pensions that the unions scream about, and everyone says, oh, raising the minimum wage sounds so good. this is what happens when it runs amok. we better take note right now. neil: do you get a sense they think lenders screw this up too, gina, cut, cut, cut, or raise taxes, raise taxes but rarely offer a carrot to the stick. something is partial loan forgiveness. something that would make the greeks want to address the pension system, that would make the greeks want to rein in the other stuff. otherwise the greeks are like anyone else, if someone is sticking it to you, you're going to stick it back to them.
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>> yeah, i mean, we can't fantasize that lenders are going to get forgiving in these particular situations, and the bottom line is, neil, we all just need, in the whole world, but especially in america to take note what's happening in greece. we need to be responsible for what we work to earn, and quit demanding things and depending on others to pay for things that we want. greed always ends in disaster. you have greece, the land of plato and philosophers on their knees. neil: it's one of the things and the people who are protesting outside parliament are saying just what you said. we're beholden to these guys? no, thank you. i think what's interesting here and a lot of people are debating this for sometime to come, assuming this is the deal they cobble together and greece avoids default for the time
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being, it will kick the can down road. other governments are in similar disarray, they say if this is the world greece has to deal with, sinus up. it might trigger the lacks behavior that is such an issue. >> this is how whole civilizations rise and fall. this is why those of us so passionate about economics and capitalism and look at simple concepts that the world can understand, like supply and demand, working for what you're worth and what you earn, that's why the concepts and those so passionate about it are so passionate. this is what happens and how civilizations fall. neil: it is scary stuff, it is ongoing, gina, thank you, have a good weekend. >> you, too. >> all the concerns notwithstanding, the dow is up and the frenetic activity on the floor of the new york stock exchange is up as well. you could tell that these guys
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neil: all right. i want to take a quick peek at athens, crowds are building outside the country's capital here. they're very, very concerned about a package they say is going to be more onerous than the one they overwhelmingly rejected last week, but that is the package we're told the greeks will offer and creditors will accept, and these guys are going to have to deal with that. the president has not involved himself in this too much outside of saying he was hoping and is hoping the europeans can settle this, that he feels for the greek people. among the republican presidential candidates i've talked to, to a man -- and in the case of carly fiorina, one woman -- they had said they would not be in any way looking to bailout greece or to support what they call their profligate
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spending ways. so this is dividing along political lines. who better than to touch on the impact of this than author evan thomas, one of the best historians i know. evan, you're hearing this, watching this, seeing this drama play out. no surprise, republican candidates are saying, no, no, we don't do anything for them. but there is the contagion fear, right? >> yeah. i mean, you know, instinctively i agree with the republican candidates, we ought to cut them off, but i don't think that's going to happen. i think they're going to get bailed out. i think my man, richard nixon, would bail them out too, to tell you the truth. he talked tough, but when it came down to it, he could be expedient. and if he thought it'd buy him some votes, he'd probably say yes to it. neil: he reached out to china when conservatives in his own party were aghast.
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he surprised people a lot coming up with the epa and wage and price control, very liberal stuff. but saying all that, how would a richard nixon handle what's going on there right now? >> well, on the good side, he'd be informed. nixon was an internationalist. he was a republican when the party was isolationists, he was internationalist. that's the good side. but nixon could be expedient. this is a republican president who put in wage and price controls. neil: right. >> 1971. that's practically socialism. and it worked, you know, it was great, felt good short term, worked great, but as nixon himself said, the piper must be paid. in his memoirs, nixon admitted that it was his biggest mistake. it was an expedient politician reaching for the short-term goodies and putting off the long-term hurt. well, there was long-term hurt. so nixon could be an expedient politician, he could. neil: you know, i'm -- when i read your book on nixon and all that, i'm thinking the newspaper
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you used to work for, washington post, you might still work for them, i don't know, and they had it out for richard nixon, and he told david froths i gave him a sword -- frost, i gave him a sword, and so he did. when i watch the media today going after marco rubio or really going through with a fine-toothed comb the financial records and amounts raised by jeb bush, who is their hated guy right now? without taking political sides or media slap shots. is it jeb bush? who? >> nobody hated like richard nixon. [laughter] i mean, i was there. they really hated nixon. neil: that really was the agenda, wasn't it? >> and they got him. it was a war. nixon was trying to take away their tv licenses. nixon wanted to bankrupt "the washington post." they were at war. this was as close to physical war as you can get. neil: but do they get today to the jeb bushes and scrutinizing his financial transactions and
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now, you know, in the case of "the new york times," i think sometimes getting a little desperate looking at marco rubio's driving record or what have you, can they go too far? >> sure. i mean, i think now it's mostly just knee-jerk, you know, there is a liberal press bias, i've said this a million times. i don't think this is news to anybody, particularly fox news. but there is, i don't think, a huge liberal bias, but it exists. i think -- and there is the general journalistic desire to get the politicians. i mean -- neil: what about donald trump? what do you make of what a richard nixon would make of his populist success? >> nixon would laugh -- admiring it to some degree, because trump knows how to hit the populist buttons, and nixon knew how to do this, he sort of invented it in a way. neil: you're right about that. >> nixon was great at stirring up fear, he was. but nixon was crafty. he was running to the left of george wallace and, you know -- neil: that's right. >> and he found it convenient to
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have somebody further to the right, more crazy, more kind of scary than him. that allowed nixon to look like the reasonable guy. neil: evan, you might have a future at this, you know, historical biography thing. [laughter] evan thomas, "being nixon" is his latest. just an impeccable writer and makes you think. more after this. (trader vo) i search. i research. i dig. and dig some more. because, for me, the challenge of the search... is almost as exciting as the thrill of the find. (announcer) at scottrade, we share your passion for trading. that's why we rebuilt scottrade elite from the ground up - including a proprietary momentum indicator that makes researching sectors and industries even easier. because at scottrade, our passion is to power yours. new york state is reinventing by leading the way on tax cuts. we cut the rates on personal income taxes. we enacted the lowest corporate tax rate since 1968. we eliminated the income tax on manufacturers altogether.
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guess who is going to the taylor swift concert i guess in new york tonight? none of the bitter boomers. [laughter] this guy. what are you thinking? connell -- >> it's taylor swift. you want to go? neil: beautiful, lovely. >> the two of us will go. my kids, come on. neil: come on, tell the truth. it's not about your kids at all. >> yeah, i'm going by myself. i am. [laughter] neil: does your wife know this? that was a nervous laugh. [laughter] i digress. >> talk to those old people. [laughter] >> hey! neil: whoa, all right. so we'll keep you posted on exactly where he's sitting -- knowing connell, he's got backstage passes. >> yeah. neil: all right. now to our aforementioned boomers who are disappearing to hear that lawrence welk apparently died. laugh steve lee, charlie gasparino and liz si macdonald on everything that's going on, early retirement -- not for
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them, but for the greeks. apparently, that will not be affected by anything we see going on in greece right now. a deal that's predicated more on tax increases, lizzie, than on -- >> yeah. i tell you, now the imf is saying 66 billion -- according to david asman, he did the reporting -- into greece? that is more than 25% of its entire gdp. so, again, the eurozone is footing the bill for a quarter of greece's economy. neil: but they are raising taxes and doing that. boomers love that, right? >> and the greece legislature still has to vote on these proposals. raising the retirement rate to 67 and hiking taxes was anathema -- neil: why do you always have to look at the half-empty glass? >> millennials love tax increases. this is true. if you talk to any millennial, they love tax increases because they don't make a lot of money -- neil: that's what connell said. >> and then they're all for raising our taxes. >> right. but, you know, there's something that's missed here, neil. i mean, and the more i look at this data, the less sympathy i
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have for greece. neil: or those that go to a taylor swift concert. [laughter] >> i'm an old boomer. i grew up in the '60s, and i have sympathy for poor people in general, though i've become much more conservative. some of this data is crazy. neil: what happened to you, by the way? when i first started talking to you, you were to the left of karl marx. >> i know. and now i'm to the right of i don't want to say who. [laughter] i'm not joking about this. listen to these numbers, this is just one of many -- neil: just one. we just need one. >> okay. [laughter] the bottom 20% of the greek income distribution, those people living below the poverty rate in the u.s., do you know how much -- what percent of social service income they get? neil: please tell us, just tell us. [laughter] >> 4%. 4 or 5% per capita, one-quarter -- neil: but here's what, you know, young people say when they hear this, how, this is about money,
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money, money, money, they don't want to share -- >> you know what they want? they want to go see taylor swift. that's what they're obsessed with. neil: taylor swift is one smart businesswoman. do we have that video, by the way? >> think about all the morons who go see her. neil: she's not -- whoa! that is most unfair. >> spend money on her -- >> she's doing that come hither look again. oh, taylor, behave. [laughter] what do you make of this? we always say tough luck, tough luck, tough luck. i always think with these deals we put too much -- not enough carrot. we don't give them an incentive. >> it's the takers versus the makers. right now the takers are the ones who are voting and who want the handouts, the makers are forced to foot the bill. and what you're see ising right now in europe is 150 years of socialism playing out in -- neil: but it's worldwide. you argue it's worldwide. >> but watch this. hang on. 49% of the eurozone is the government. 49% of their gdp is government. look at france, 57%. denmark, 56%.
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>> you guys remind me of millennials because you're missing the story, i'm telling you. neil: at least all the men here are wearing ties. >> think about it. they're raising taxes -- neil: what is this bobby vinton thing -- [laughter] very, very nice. gold chain -- >> taxes are not going to go the poor people in greece. the taxes will go to the richer people, and that's the whole idea. >> that is going to hurt the economy. >> social services from the government is not beginning to the poor -- given to the poor, it's given to the rich. >> right. i agree with that. neil: conservatives and liberals alike, the way we do this the same way each time. i think if you're going to get the greeks to change, you're going to have to give them an incentive to change. and there's no incentive. >> but there's no incentive -- >> there's just no incentive at all. neil: you wouldn't do anything for them, because you're not a generous person, right? >> no. i would force them to at least be, you know, fair to their poor people that they keep showing us on tv every night. because they're giving them
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nothing. the poor get nothing in greece. neil: yeah, yeah, yeah! >> at least in this country, in germany it's divided -- neil: what do you say to that! yeah, yeah! >> go to the poor. neil: right. >> i'm just saying that it is sort of, it is counterproductive to be raising taxes right now. >> it is. >> when they're mired in -- neil: you just make a bad situation worse. you don't even have to agree with that, charlie, and you're the biggest tightwad -- >> just get rid of some of the fraud. >> that is a good point. >> 2% of the population was blond, so they could get a $400 payment -- neil: they were what? >> blind. oh, i thought you said blond. back to taylor. >> legally blond? neil: stop it. >> i'm heading there tomorrow. [laughter] neil: guys, i want to thank you all very much. >> [inaudible] neil: that reminds me, we're getting a lot of updates on the tension this has created on floor of the new york stock exchange can we show that, guys -- [laughter]
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neil: welcome back, everybody, i'm neil cavuto, continuing on "coast to coast" here. you notice the confluence of events that bear watching. the role of the government this week that has been very big in china trying to stabilize their markets, very big in greece just trying to work with lenders and those governments trying to work with greece to control their markets and economy. and then think about how things are done here. that our government has, essentially, propped up this stock market through the federal reserve and many argue obscenely low interest rates to say nothing of stimulus and a lot of big government initiatives. so in a way, isn't the whole world dependent on government, and doesn't it balk and scream when government doesn't get the job done, and they want to see it do more? well, adam lashinsky is a big fan of government intervening, ben stein maybe not so much.
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so, adam, you argue what we see in the government, particularly in china, maybe to a lesser extent in greece, that's, well, well done, right? >> no. i mean, i'm, i wouldn't -- i agree with everything you said, neil, up until the intervening in these types of situations. think what the chinese are doing -- neil: wait a minute, you're with me or against me. you agree with what i say or didn't say. [laughter] >> and they want me against you. look, i would rather emphasize the good things the government does. [laughter] neil: all right. so let's talk a little bit about china trying to stabilize its markets this week. >> yeah. neil: i mean, very aggressively, all but outlawing margin calls so investors didn't have to worry about that nonsense. isn't that a little too much? >> it's a dumb move. what the government, what the regulators would have been better off doing in china was having, you know, well-enforced and clear rules on margin in the first place. that would be a good role for the government and for a
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regulator. what they're doing right now is completely ham handed. neil: what they're doing is propping up the market, and the last couple of days it's working. so, ben stein, my fear is -- and i understand why they're doing it, maybe the same impetus what we are doing after the meltdown and what we continue to do with the stock market to keep it going with quantitative easing and all that stuff -- can you set a bad precedent and then do people depend on that precedent? >> i don't think quantitative easing was intended to prop up the stock market. that was, undoubtedly, an effect. there's no doubt about that, but i don't think that was the intelligent. look, the chinese government are very smart people. many years ago they had a market meltdown. the chinese bought in, they propped up the market, and they wound up making tens of billions of dollars on the rebound. i think they'll do it again this time, and the chinese market is not like the u.s. market. it's much more chaotic, there are many more possible ways for it to meltdown. neil: ben, shouldn't they just stay out of it? >> ah, that's a very good,
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that's a very deep question. neil: well, thank you. i come up with many. >> well, you do, indeed. china's not a stable, solid government like the united states. they are worried that their government can teeter and possibly have real trouble if there were a market meltdown n. the u.s., we have a stable, solid government. basically a two-party system. we basically don't have any mistrust of government except in small ways. china has to prop up the market. we don't. they're going to make a fortune on it, and i guarantee you people who bought in at the bottom are going to be real happy about it. neil: all i'm saying, and both of you know, we're all big government sycophants now really. >> no, not 59 all. -- not at all. neil: yes, we are. >> but we have been for a very long time. i actually think ben is confusing the giant surplus -- neil: he just agreed with you. take that and run with it, what are you talking about? [laughter] >> okay. i'll agree with him. what the chinese are doing is blatantly political.
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what we did in 2008 i don't think was political. we were trying to save the global economy. i think that was a good move. neil: oh, please, please. >> i agree completely about that. i know, you don't like t.a.r.p. >> it was a great move. neil: i don't know. >> it was a great move. neil: i find both of you tiresome. but you can catch these geniuses -- [laughter] seriously, they are geniuses on our weekend network and fox news. in the meantime, we have got trish regan on this big resignation in washington over all these hackings. i wonder if that's going to solve anything. >> finally, finally some accountability, right? we've talked about target and the ceo losing his job right after that had all happened, and nothing, no one had gotten fired in washington. finally you're seeing a response here, neil. let's not forget, originally four million people being hacked, then it was 14 million people being hacked, now 21 million americans may have had their data compromised?
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i mean, who knows what the number ultimately is going to be here. neil: a lot more than that. trish, thank you very much. trish regan. again, do you think greeks have bad blood? connell mcshane sure does, no 40 doubt. ♪ ♪ do you want to know how hard it can be to breathe with copd? it can feel like this. copd includes chronic bronchitis and emphysema. spiriva is a once-daily inhaled copd maintenance treatment that helps open my airways for a full 24 hours. spiriva helps me breathe easier. spiriva respimat does not replace rescue inhalers for sudden symptoms. tell your doctor if you have kidney problems, glaucoma, trouble urinating, or an enlarged prostate. these may worsen with spiriva respimat. discuss all medicines you take, even eye drops. if your breathing suddenly worsens, your throat or tongue swells, you get hives, vision changes or eye pain or problems passing urine,
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neil: no, it wasn't. >> ymca was. neil: you're taking your kids. >> yeah, my two daughters. >> and your wife's going as well? >> she better be. [laughter] neil: now, how close are you to the stage? >> i don't even know -- neil: you know exactly. >> no, i don't. [laughter] neil: you're actually doing a number with her. >> i'm starting to think these segments at the end of the show are just to fill time. neil: earlier in the week with the beard, it's just a moment that you make possible. [laughter] >> you can thank me later: you knowness i had to miss the women's soccer parade today to appear on your program. so you're welcome. neil: that's a big deal. we're all going to be stuck with the bill. >> you're sounding like a bitter boomer again. complaining about, oh -- neil: you're okay with it. you're not even woodstock, and you sound like you came from woodstock. it's okay. now, will you treat the kids tonight or tickets are so expensive, you're not going to get -- >> one time i took them, years
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ago i took them to a baseball game, like, by myself, and my wife said, well, 40ud you take them to the bathroom? i just didn't give them any water at all, the whole time. [laughter] that's true. they didn't have any water. i didn't know what to do at the time. they're older now. neil: what a dad. well, that's a fox dad for you. [laughter] >> i don't know what to do, so i just didn't give 'em any water. neil: i think that's a very nice thing for you to do. any thoughts on the markets? >> no. i feel like we shouldn't even show up for work sometimes because we're, like, back where we started. neil: i know. >> it's up and down. we knew this would happened. we didn't know it, but you could have predicted it. neil: do you feel better that the new york stock exchange is back in business? can we go live to the floor, ralph? let's go live here. >> oh, my god. neil: there we go. marry that with taylor swift -- >> those guys will be out there too. neil: that's what's going on now. they're open for business. they're all outside the
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neil: quick shot of athens. throngs not happy with something they say is shoved down their throat and they don't like it. trish regan right now. trish: tens of thousands of people protests on the streets. we're watching markets. we're up nearly 200 points right now on the dow as we watch all of these headlines pouring out of greece. fed chair janet yellen wants to raise rates. she admits she probably can't. we'll discuss that. final a head rolls at office of personnel management. after it reveals, not four, not 14, but 20 million americans were hacked by cyberattack on government computers.
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