>> but authorities have considerable reason and evidence to consider strength something more -- strategy manage more, they are not ruling out a international connect in murder of 4 of our marines today. we're learning more about the victims, one of the marines killed was a decorated war hero, two purple hearts, the youngest was just 19 years old, all reservist, in a unit third battalion, one of the wounded it is a female sailor, names of those killed will not be released until primary next of kin are not fid by authority. >> we know age and name of the gunman. muhammad youssef abdulazeez born in kuwait in 1990, moved to tennessee, where he attended high school.

and college. at this point, muhammad youssef abdulazeez is believed by law enforcement to have acted alone, he was the certainly heavily armed, he carried with him weapons as he attacked two military fundaments, a senior government official telling us that first shooting was a drive-by. he fired from his car into a recruiting office. in a strip mall, chattanooga police chased abdulazeez about 7 miles to a second location, naval operational support center, where abdulazeez fired on marines there the assault lasted by some eyewitnesses as long as 15 minutes, police shot and killed him there, fbi is taking lead, but, there was no warning, there was no intelligence agency that had any indication of any kind that abdulazeez or anyone else, was

about to carry out these attacks. but he did have an counter with police three months ago, we explore that reporting details to you and much more ahead as we continue our report here tonight. joining us now, fox news radio talk show host todd sterns, this is a lone wolf, by all appearances radical islamic terrorism on u.s. >> what makes this disturbing it did not happen in our large urban center but in a southern medium size city, chattanooga, tennessee, i went to college a few miles out of there, i know the area well, people i have talked to ground are shell shock by this. i want to take where with that term lone wolf. we heard president say that earlier, there is no indication justity, that -- just yet that

he was alone wolf, i question that considering aim of support that is sent to chattanooga area, several hundred fbi agents that are going to assist. >> dozens of othe agents from or agents this look leak a fool on press -- full on press. i have not seen of any instance of any tragedy any domestic terrorism incident that created that kind offal move -- almost intanttainious. >> they said they were investigating this as an act of domestic terrorism. lou: this obama administration that has -- fought for years, idea that fort hood was they

described it as a workplace violence rather than terrorist attack. they had to relent. but like you say, there has been a change of tone, note and wording. >> one thing is the same with fort hood, both of these, the military personnel were not armed. i just posted on fox news.com a column calling for president to arm our armed forces, it makes no sense, that you have marines who defend our nation, on foreign soil, without weapo weas here. lou: the front door of the recruiting center. that sign right there, it is a gun-free zone. >> as i was saying it makes no

sense that marines, can defend our country on foreign oil with weapons, yet they cannot defend their own live here's on american sale, tha soil, that is unacceptable. you read reports the shoulders had -- soldiers had no other recourse but to barricade themselves inside, it could have been worse. lou: i think that you are making a en tel teligent recommendatiot will be a matter for our congress, this is a hatter of federal law. at-this-point i would say this country does not need a gun free zone of any kind we nida,ability to defend ourselves. >> indeed. lou: and a president who what he said he is going to destroy the enemy that would carry out these kinds of attacks, who mean its.

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lou: an eyewitness account my next guest witnessed the first shooting that took place in the strip mall next to the recruiting center where muhammad youssef abdulazeez fired from his vehicle, into the recruiting center, gina mull is joining us by phone, thank you for joining us here. if you will give us your car, count as to what you saw, this morning when it began. >> okay, it was about 10 before 11, i was getting the restaurant opened, i heard loud -- i didn't know they were gunshots i heard loud pows. one after that the other i came out of the kitchen, looked out the window, and then i looked out i seen -- i never saw his face or any kind of features, the part of automobile that

comes up, attached to windshield was in front of him, from my angle, i soon his arms holding a black big high power rifle, and unloading into the office next to us, there were tons of shots. lou: what drew your attention to the vehicle was the first few shots could correct in. >> yes. lou: we're looking at video of the restaurant, in which you were. when you saw his arms, you did not see his head or face. >> no. lou: how long did this take? the first few shots, that brought you out to the front window. >> first shots, it was not a minute long be before i walked n fronts of the building to looks whatever going on. i stood there and watch i was in shock, i could not -- telling me get to back of the store, i was

shocked. is this real? is this a real gun? what is going on? it happened so fast, maybe a minute or two. he just sat in opened fire, numerous rounds into the front of the building then pulled off. lou: you were near the front of the restaurant, how close would you say you were. >> i was dig nal, he was -- diagonal he was to right of me from where i was at complex, and i was rice diagonal from the car, i could have been 10 feet away. lou: how many people work in the recruiting center? do you have -- do you know how many? do you knows people. >> definitely, you know we came great friends with a lot of people who work there, there are several offices with air force, national guard, army, marines and navy, we see them all of the time. lou: it is a big facility? >> it is -- they is separate

offices and doors, so they are connected, you know next to each other. lou: and no one is -- as you were looking toward the car, you -- do you have some idea of how long he are was firing into the facilities? >> it was really quick, like i walked out of the kitchen, my attendtion was drawn to the gun, i know within a minute after he sped off whole ordeal 1 to 3 minutes. >> and did you and your colleagues did you go to recruiting center to see -- >> i did. i personally did, as soon as he pulled off, i soon him pull to main road, he pulled off i ran outside, with other military personnel there, two people that ran toward the road. trying to get a tag number.

there was no tag on the vehicle. i ran over to the office, where some other officers who do -- do not get is on the at, i opened door, and stuff in your eyes debris, inside of the building we were you know yelling, is everything okay? department see nobody right there, some military guys witness into the opposite back-end of where the cubicals and things but everyone got out of the building. lou: they were okay there. >> they were okay. at the location next door to restaurant, we had one guy who was shot in back of am leg, and everyone was okay, we were thankful for that. lou: thankful as are we all for you and er ern there. and -- everyone there our hearts go to family of 4 killed, two wounded. did you hear sirens went any short order of time after the

shots fired and assailant drove away? was there any further activity there. >> they came almost immediately, after the guy lift somebody picked up the phone they called police, and within minutes they were there. police were pulling up, sirens were coming. lou: great, gina thank you we're glad you are safe, thank you for your account we appreciate it. >> no problem. lou: our best to you. >> thank you. >> thank you. lou: joining us now, turning to fox news senior national correspondent john roberts he is in chattanooga reporting on this story trying to bring a sprawling story, with complicated details, john, your latest forest -- >> about 9 1/2 hours into this. about 10 minutes of aic 7:00, at

time ago a convoy of black suburbans,y assume they were f fbi. pulled a number of light units and jean rate or -- generators y have a night of forensic work to do. as they decipher why muhammad youssef abdulazeez came in here, and did what he did. how he did it as well. we understand too, that we added one more victim to the number of casualties, 4 marines, a police officer shot, and a marine who was wounded in leg at that first location. and now pentagon source say that a sailor, a female was wounded she is in surge retreated for her wounds. some more developments and all this, continues to unfolded, we may hear more because the u.s. attorney for eastern district of

tennessee bill killian may beholding a press conference. lou: we understand that governor may come forward here in a press conference with the tennessee emergency management agency. we're also going to be following that as well. talking with car -- catherine herridge. since 11:00 this morning they started talking -- they the intelligence agencies and federal agencies -- about this being a domestic terrorism. they were going to investigate it as that. not declaring it to be that. that is a highly unusual response, have you not found that in your experience? >> reporter: certainly given record of this administration, something that we don't ordinarily hear come out of an

official's mouth immediately. the fact that killian said, right off the bat this is treated as domestic terrorism gives you an idea they believe there is a potential nexis to international terrorism, catherine herridge reports today there was a series of tweets set odd by a twitter account linked to isis suggestions that somebody was about to happen, whether or not that was related, we don't know. federal authorities will investigate that. i should point out too, time wears on, we get clarification of events sometimes that is gain through observation, i looked at aerial picture of suspect's car. federal official said at no time he was on federal property, it is clear looking at those pictures, when he went into

facility he backed through the front gate, bent and twisted it, carried it on the front of his car. not only was he on federal property but he crashed through the gate to get on there. if you look closer, at the lay of the land there are a couple of jersey barriers you have to snake through in an s pattern. lou: john is talking about that car there. the fence in one of the barriers. that is a great point. i think as you said almost at outset of your reportings on this, the very earliest reports often have to be augmented as we learn more and learn better what

has strain powered. we -- transpired we thank you for bringing us up-to-date. john roberts we depend on you for that thank you. >> thank you, lou. lou: up next, we have continuing coverage of our breaking news out of chattanooga, officials say there is no indication that the chattanooga gunman was under investigation by the fbi or in anyway on radar of federal law enforcement or intelligence agency at the time of the shooting, how could that be possible? we take it up because there are at least one perhaps more incidents in which there was an encounter with law e enforcement we'll tell you about that as he continue our coverage right here, stay with us. when you're not confident you have complete

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lou: joining us tonight walid phares, retired major general robert scales. we begin with the saw. tion made -- saw. sumption made immediately this person, muhammad youssef abdulazeez is being investigated now as a domestic terrorist. are you surprised that there is a instance judgment, and dis position? >> let me say way that operations were conducted, this was u.s. milltary targeted -- there a previous operation in 2009 in arkansas, this fits profile of what al qaeda and

isis wants, we know that, most likely this is part of a yee had -- jihad i operation in use but what we don't know who triggered this operation. lou: one cannot help but think of president of united states, who said, months ago, last year, that we were going to see the islamic state degraded, and destroy by u.s. forces. that is not happened, it shows no signs of happening. your reaction? >> well, you are right. you know, wa - -- walid is righ, young i islamic whack jobs like thissen to go out and kill for a losing cause. the can't count the aim of people who are -- by the success

of isis in middle east. until you strike at the heart of this terrorism month leg, bring them down, humiliate them in eyes of the world these young men think they are winning they will continue to join the ranks of isis either in middle east or overseas by legion, fbi does a grade job in tracking them down but there are so many, i don't think that fbi is able too count them much less track them all. lou: do you agree? >> i do, especially that we're not raising a question, why wasn't he on a list, guess what, 80% of potential jihadists are not on a list, if they have not encountered law enforcement how can we put them on the list, this is something that administration did not want to do 92 there was a encounter with local law enforcement but there

was nothing out of the ordinary. terrible as they driving under influence is, that is what happened. he was arrested for a dui, in april in hamilton county, that is count that's surrounds chattanooga. april 20. yet beyond that, there seems to be no indication as far as we know, as this point. that this young man, was radicalized byio beyond that tw, this been picked up by their organization talking about his own if you will, despairing of world that is not yet islamic, which he economies pecking to be -- expects to be and would work for that islamic world that caliphate. that seemed to be his intent.

we don't know if he was talking in terms of specifically the islamic state ideology. your thoughts? >> well, the dui issue, if you don't count that as a. >> what we miss rights now is this information, usually comes from facebook, social media about him saying thing or traveling, that we don't have so far, my concern, sharing with you, this is unusual, yesterday, what was america debating? yesterday? iran. what are we debating today this operation. so, i look at political meaning of -- he is a jihadist most likely, but who triggers him is the most important question. >> and bob, what do you see as the response here? we're now dealing with one individual, and i have to tell

you, i could not help but be struck we're reporting that hundreds of federal agencies are decents on chattanooga, tennessee. a long with the state agencies of law enforcement in tennessee. along with the local police and sheriff offices in chattanooga, and hamilton county. one man in the result is energy that time and resources of all of these agencies, these investigators, on because of the actions of one person. >> absolutely, until you strike at heart of narrative, until you take away highwa ahope for creaa caliphate, you and convince this generation of islamic boys and men from 15 to 25 their cause is hopeless, until that happens, you will have the jihadists spring up, you know president's point that well, if we could just stop hunger, and find jobs for these young men that would

stop, excuse me? major hasan of a medical doctor and this guy with a degree in electrical engineering from an american university, you cannot type cast them, they are radicalized and committed to establishment the caliphate, until you take it down i am afraid we are not going to see the end of this. >> thank you very much. >> well we going to come right back. with latest poll, stay with us. cash card from capital one. i earn unlimited 2% cash back on everything i buy for my studio. ♪ and that unlimited 2% cash back from spark means thousands of dollars each year going back into my business... that's huge for my bottom line.

what's in your wallet? lou: we are about to hear from the governor of tennessee on today's tragic events. >> it is impressive and encouraging. the second thing is that tennessee and chattanooga

reacted to the way i thought they were, with love and support, the law enforcement says i don't know that we have seen anywhere that rallied so quickly to the tragedy that we have had. with that, i will go ahead and let you add anything that you would like to add. >> i would like to thank you, governor, and everyone for being here. our hearts are breaking for the families of these marines tonight. we also know that there are others that have been injured today, everything has been filled with community members that want to do something. i will also say that every time i hear another story about what the police officers did today, i spent several hours this afternoon doing. i am completely impressed by the

heroism that they show and we want to thank the governor for coming here. he called me after the incident very soon to talk about what had happened. i would like to thank congressman as well, i've talked to the white house many times a day and this is a tragic day for our city and certainly as the governor said, all officials have responded in the best way possible. so we thank you very much. >> i think that as in any situation as to whether how widespread it was, law enforcement took a lot of extra precaution because of that. the capital was never actually locked down, but security was heightened during that time. >> i have been nothing but impressed, i am just beginning

to get briefed on what has happened, but i can understand the congressman said that he talked with the secretary earlier today and they have been nothing but a port of and help pull. [inaudible question] >> we have not. obviously they are in charge of that at that point in time. >> i would like to just say that we contacted the white house very soon after the incident and i then got proactively called several times from the white house. they have been very concerned. during my press conference today there were four calls from the private number and then i got another call. so the president has been getting constantly briefed about this and i know that they are completely in touch with what is going on in chattanooga.

[inaudible question] >> i cannot comment on that. >> are you concerned about that we met. >> i think that this might be the most appropriate response to that. >> the police department is working with all of the local and state and federal agencies to ensure that every resource is put where it is needed. we are identifying this on an hourly basis to make sure that any identified areas that might feel horrible are addressed in an appropriate manner. all federal and state agencies are working together. across the city, across this country. >> investigation is handled by the federal bureau of

investigation. >> i need to check on my officers and find out exactly what is going on. and we have four people that we know that fatally wounded and several that were treated at the scene and also release. and that is still part of the investigation. it's a tricky thing to find out, those things can be difficult to ascertain. and i can tell you that there are no braver or selfless people than the chattanooga police department. i can also say that the officers saved many lives today. >> absolutely. if you have any information, go through the numbers for

communications departments. we have a single point of contact in a structured strain to the police department and the federal bureau of investigation. >> the chief expressing his pride in his department and in doing so with some considerable emotion. we are going to find out more about the role of the police department in stopping the gunman that took the lives of former indians today. we are joined now by bill, who is one of the top officials. a major in the national guard and formerly the fbi assistant director. the former assistant director as well, the inspector of the fbi, it's good to have you with us here today. and as i listened to the governor here, and he along with

the police chief, these guys were expressing considerable confidence in one another. some folks feel reassured and that is not always the case with the state and local folks coming together. >> for agencies, whether it would be federal agencies or state and federal agencies to work under together with joint terrorism task force and things of that nature, it is refreshing in turn refreshing. and it's hard to ever find a positive on the situation because it's such a tragedy. but it could have always have been worse. it's not for the thinking and the training of the law enforcement that has ultimately put this down.

lou: the fbi lead agency on the in negation that is now watching this unfold, john roberts talking about the fact that they are lighting this up. and we are told that there are going to be hundreds of investigative agencies coming into chattanooga. have you ever seen this kind of response to an incident like this reign. >> nothing like 9/11 or the bombing of 1993. of or is there were a lot of assets put in place there. but i think that a young marine was killed and another one wounded. and it didn't have this kind of response. there's a couple of things that i have in the back of my mind that he is talking about.

>> yes, it was. and what comes into my mind is that i wonder if there was something on the grid recently, some chatter whereby federal authorities and intelligence authorities and local authorities were trying to put the dog with another dog and trying to connect it to something and when this happens it was automatically connected. i cannot think of another reason why it would be such an aggressive response with 200 additional fbi personnel. they will send in i.t. people, additional agents. one other thing that struck me today is jim went to the white house to talk to the president about this. and i have never seen that happen. i don't think it's the wrong

thing and i don't mean to be de minimis of the activity, but i have never seen this before and those two things, i say in my mind that there's something else going on behind the scenes that we don't know yet. >> i think that bill is making a terrific argument in what is going on. and this is unusual. we focused on the fact that for the first time with most of our experiences here, to have a declaration that this is domestic terrorism from the very getting in the incipient point, it is unusual as they have been saying straight out. it may well be that there's something more going on than we realize. >> keep in mind that obviously this was made very quickly and this is an administration and past crisis of his likeness and so in addition, it is one thing

to have 200 fbi agents with the suspects at large, but thankfully it was put down and i think that that makes the magnitude of this and the size and the normandy that much greater than does make you think that there's more to this. lou: we have one other part of what is unfolding here as john roberts and the national correspondent has indicated, the two women from the house in which mohammod youssuf abdulazeez, where he is believed to have been living, they were taken out of the house by authorities in handcuffs. and so that is another part of what is unfolding for us to try to make sense of this. and this is what i want to get to. it doesn't seem different, we

are likely to get many details from the at ei which is taking the lead and we may be frustrated a little bit, and trying to get those details two. >> i think that they will give all the details that they possibly can, but as you know, they do not want to jeopardize any private investigation. taking those women out in handcuffs, they knew that something was going on about these two women and perhaps it unfolded as the case unfolded. but it was so rapid that everything just happened quickly and i think that there's more here to be thought about. the big thing is what was the trigger mechanism for this terrorist to do, and parents are going to be able to say something about that. who were his friends and was he really radicalize?

all of these things will come to life and i think that we need to have a lot of understanding and look beyond the horizon on this one to see how it really unfold. >> i think that the two women, obviously, in great detail, saying that the agents we are most concerned with is whether it might be part of this. and the other thing that is the treasure trove for law enforcement and these types of investigations our computers, desktops, laptops, electronic devices, they are taking every single thing out of that home and it's going to be interesting to see who he was interacting with on the internet, whether he had contacts, that is really what the information that they are trying to mine the next few

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lou: as i said earlier, the president did address the tragic attacks on to military facilities in chattanooga, the comic today. >> as we have more information, we are going to let the public know. in the meantime i would ask all americans to pray for the families that are grief stricken at this point. and i want everyone to understand that we will be thorough and prompt in figuring

out exactly what has happened. lou: as good as his word, hundreds of federal agents are descending upon chattanooga, tennessee, to further investigate the murder of four u.s. marines. we are joined by colonel frederick leighton. he served as an intelligence officer in the u.s. air force for some 26 years. it's great to have you with us. we are hearing a things that purport to be from the islamic state and the timeline in particular, the chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge suggesting with caution as we tried to match those timestamps up. your thoughts about the social media that we have seen so far and whether or not it did presage and attack of the sword

in chattanooga. >> the situation with social media is one in which there are some precedents for them to actually announce these kinds of announcements where they happen. and you also have the "charlie hebdo" situation where you have him social media indications that this would actually happen and there is that precedent and there are also efforts to look at that from what we call this but there are fairly easy to master cells and you want to make this before a particular

incident in chattanooga, where it occurred and you know, to hearing from the intelligence agencies or at least from government agencies relying on their intelligence of there's new chatter and groups terrorist around the globe, but we have not been hearing that reference with the chatter rising. and that includes social media and on communications includin telephonic communications and the satellite communications. >> when the number of communications increases, there

is a planned attack that is coming, but what we are dealing with is it the potential for a diffuse organization and they do so as much as they can under the radar and that means that those types of communications will not be noticed and will not come out as much as they would expect them to a case like this. lou: thank you for being with us. colonel frank layton. coming up next, we will be talking about the editor of the chattanooga times free press and she will have the latest on this investigation as well as her perspective from chattanooga. stay with us because we are coming right back. pubut to get from theand yoold way to the new,d. you'll need the right it infrastructure.

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chattanooga times free press joins us now. give us a sense of what we know now about how the killer was taken down. do we know yet who shot him or whether he took his own life? >> we do not. >> any indication about the two women taken from the residence that was either his or is that the opposition? >> it is not known if they were known by law enforcement officers and it's not clear whether they were being led away to be questioned someone else or what the question for leading him away was. but the fbi is at the house and

they have blocked off the streets around it. >> it is clear that it is a nice middle-class home, it appears, perhaps even more. this is not one that they would expect that the president uses were his administration when talking about radicalization. >> that's right, it's about $200,000 in a middle class suburban neighborhood. the shooter holds an engineering degree from the university of tennessee chattanooga. lou: again, not part of the profile, no indication there that there is, and we have about 30 seconds, radicalization of any kind in the community enact. >> no indication. lou: i just want to say thank you. you have done a terrific job today and we thank you for being with us. >> thank you so much.

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