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job, robo up 20% on the year. >> let's do humans. average allowance is $35 for kids. >> ramon gets more allowance than than charles is next. >> keeps happening, young adults living in america, turning on america. the same week this 24-year-old guns down four brave marines in tennessee, video surfaces of another young male charged with a terror plot in massachusetts saying this -- >> what do you feel about, you know the group that calls itself isis or isil? are they doing a good thing? >> yeah. yeah they are. they're doing a good thing. >> hello, everyone. in for neil cavuto. a growing thing on american soil has us asking what's go on with the kids living on american
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soil? ben, gary adam and charlie. gary k. what is going on? >> well look i think our youth are fine. i think some of our youth are not fine. i have no interest in being dr. phil in getting one of these people in a room and talk it out. the bottom line is evil is evil. if they want to get in with places like isis that all they have in life is to murder people and rape people and destroy, god bless you, guess what's going to happen? you're either going to be dead or going to jail for the rest of your life simple as that. >> i get that but ben, we're seeing images of the shooter in chattanooga lived in a beautiful house, drove by these murders that he committed, drove by nice car, i mean what is it about that kind of a lifestyle that would at the same time nurture someone to hate that lifestyle simultaneously? >> well insanity and evil no respect to persons, look we have something like 35 million
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people in the -- maybe more -- in the age group from 20 to 30 only incredibly tiny percentage of them turn out to do anything terroristic or alleged to be terroristic. our young people are basically fine people sure a lot use dope also a lot start tech companies. but these people don't represent anything but their own insane selves. >> some do both. >> here's the thing, charlie, enough of them are doing this that everyone is afraid and we probably need to figure it out. >> yeah. i mean listen we have sex education in schools, you know, we might want to address this stuff. we teach our kids a lot of stupid stuff, you know. understanding terrorism and this sort of appeal, it's starting to appeal. they're starting to try to appeal to this demographic that they believe there are ploex itable. i don't know why schools don't step up to the plate. i see why, it's too politically
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correct to do that, but that's my opinion. >> but like some of the people who knew the shooter down in chattanooga, in high school described him as not an outsider, so even interaction with people at school very often someone radicalized by a terror organization not related to the chattanooga shooter, but they're doing it on the internet where no one else is seeing what they're doing because they're on the internet that's where they're essentially living. frankly, charles, nice car doesn't cure crazy. >> i know, but i really get nervous when we say these guys are crazy, it gives them a free ride on this. maybe we won't catch some of these guy. adam charlie is saying schools should do something, and dagen saying they thought he was assimilated pretty good. maybe there's a way we all can find clues so these things don't happen as often.
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>> i know those is going to come as a great shock to charlie, but i completely disagree with him. i've got an alert here for you. >> i part? >> the isis are targeting kids or the fact that we need to teach those to hate isis? both factual statements. >> now i'll finish my point. the school -- when i went to school -- and i don't -- when you went to school roughly the same time -- i don't think things have changed schools teach current events what's go on in the world. we should teach more of it. >> you're going to let everybody correct school teachers deal with this? >> charlie -- >> hold on a second. >> go ahead, gary k. >> if we have to teach our young people that shooting people dead is a bad thing, we got some serious problem. i have news i go up to my son's college all the time. the young people this country are terrific hard workers, they want to be success stories.
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these are outlier events. but unfortunately it's starting to proliferate. >> let me finish my point. >> 60 arrests around the country in 20 different cities. that means it's out there. >> let adam finish your point. >> my point is is that these are outliers and the best that we can do is educate our children not just about right and wrong, of course we should but about what's going on in the world. we can complain all we want about social media a forum for them to discuss their ideas, that's not going to change the fact -- >> hold on. i want to bring ben in. isn't all crime an outlier? aren't the murderers in america an outlier, rapers are outlier? the idea we shouldn't be worried because it's outlier a fraction of society, it's not. it's a growing fraction of society. >> sure sure, it is -- it is such a small percentage it is nuts to think the ordinary citizen should worry about.
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why not have guards at facilities? why not have access to them more difficult? that seems like an easier solution. >> listen we teach kids to stay agra gangs. >> right. >> no offense, but -- >> it doesn't work. >> doesn't work. but -- we don't know if it doesn't totally work. we don't know the people -- >> i think there's been some success. >> we might have to look at this. we know for a fact -- which we think we do -- isis and terrorists are targeting vulnerable kids which they are, and it's having some impact on kids because you've seen a ramp up of arrests, we have to address it in schools. do we leave the liberal teachers establishment, can they be trusted to deal with this in a coherent way? probably not. but something's better than nothing. >> we have to address it with law enforcement. >> there's no reason to assume we are. >> i think the idea we don't want law enforcement to always have to show up after the scene of the crime or be the target of the crime. >> one of the great -- one of
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the great focuses of law enforcement will be what is happening in social media. because what social media -- >> i agree. twitter, for example, these individuals have direct access to terrorists on the internet. james comey, director of the fbi, described it as the devil on your shoulder all day long saying kill kill kill. >> so we identify a kid who keeps going to sites, some kid, anywhere in middle america, what do we do now? we found out this kid keeps going there, engaging with the site now what? >> surveillance. surveillance. you've had arrests, multiple arrests -- wait -- related to things that were uncovered on twitter. >> we should point out, there's a huge problem in the federal law enforcement bureaucracy. there's a huge problem. jim comey spends way too much time going after insider trading and should be deploying that resource -- >> gary k. charles if you wanted terrorists
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you let them know you'll end up with mohammed yousef. if you want to join them see you in 10 to 20 your best attempt for something like this. >> gary, these people are on suicide missions. hold on. gary k. these guys aren't thinking about going to james most die at the scene of this thing. >> look we agree this is a law enforcement thing. here's the great news. i'm mazed we haven't seen more of this. it tells you they are doing a great job. unfortunately, this is growing somebody's got to put the hammer down hopefully it's us. >> ben. >> i, again, i don't understand this wouldn't have happened if the gate had been solid concrete at the marine depot. >> or if they had weapons it would have been mitigated. >> why do we -- why do we allow our marines and our police to defend facilities? >> ben, that's an important point. but next time it won't be at a
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recruiting station. it will be somewhere else. you have to figure out how can we stop these young people who are being radicalized, how can we find them where they're being radicalized and prevent the next attack. >> having them guard is so much simpler. >> the point is they'll attack something else or someone else somewhere else. >> a lot of people -- >> hold on a second, guys. if they targeted the military the police at least we should arm them. adam what about the idea of targeting -- not targeting but looking to parents, there's some reports that shooter in chattanooga and his father one time was looked at very closely. it seems like the radicalization process begins as they grow up. though they have great things that resentment built into them anything wrong with that? taking the next step saying if a kid came to school with a bruise on them we investigate for child abuse. what if they show signs in a different way? >> what i would say is you
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know social media's an opportunity for terrorists it's also an opportunity for law enforcement and you know we -- yes, we should explore every surveillance opportunity that we can legally, legally. talking about americans on american soil here. >> let's leave it there. >> kids kicked in the rear end. >> forbes on fox ready to go. dave, what's on deck. >> with this horrific attack raising terror fears in the homeland is this any time to release funds to the world's number one sponsor of terror groups? also i go head-to-head with a surprising supporter of a higher gas tax. see you at the top of the hour. >> can't wait for that. thanks dave. first, hillary clinton pushing companies to share more profits with workers but some here say her profit sharing plan will end up hurting workers. we'll debate it. you decide. next.
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people dead 170 others injured. one of the deadliest attacks in iraq. well hillary unveiling clinton nomices plan. she can boost incomes, a corporate sharing plan with workers with middle and low income. this is a win/win. but gary you say when government tells private business what to do it's a loss for all workers. >> charles, when i hear hillary clinton talking economics and corporations having to share, two words come to mind and that's oy vey. bottom line for me is look the bottom line is -- well done,
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ben -- look corporations are dealing with 70,000 pages of tax code 70,000 pages of regulations, mandates fees health care you name it. now you're going to tell them what they have to pay everybody else. very simple if you demand mandate companies, more pay, higher pay, they are going to react in a way and it's less people working at higher cost to consumers. >> gary i don't know what the yiddish expression is for you're misleading and clouding the issue. >> oy vey. >> this is -- >> go ahead, adam. >> what -- what -- what clinton suggested was a tax incentive for companies which is a time-honored and, by the way, conservative and capitalistic practice. >> no. >> that said to these companies, if you offer this incentive,
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we'll -- >> hold on one second. >> we're not mandating, we're not telling anyone what to do. >> yes, we are. it does become a mandate. ben, head for the hills, bar the door when you start talking about government telling businesses how to pay workers, to me it's scary. it's a red flag. >> well it is a little bit scary. and i think we're going to have problems. my beloved l.a. raising the minimum wage it will drive garmin manufacturers out of town. the idea of mandating profit sharing is not a bad idea. it's going to teach people how to care about profits and they want to get in on it as much as they can by buying stock beyond whatever's mandated by the government. >> i saw this -- i just saw this -- i saw this as a kind suggestion from hillary clinton about i'm suggesting that you share your profits because if you don't, i'm going to come in and share them for you. >> i'll shoal you how to share
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them. >> the problem with the approach that was, you know exemplified in the speech and was obtuse you couldn't understand what she was saying how to would be paid how would this work. hillary clinton, right now is running the most fatuous campaign out there. >> you bet. >> republicans laying out decent stuff, donald trump going nuts and hillary clinton saying nada. >> here what happens i think hillary clinton is saying profits all-time highs and you are the reason why the average american's not making it, another regurgitation on the war on capitalism the war on corporate rate profits. the only way fund it through the corporate balance sheet. might sound like a suggestion about if she gets in office it's going to be an order. >> you know, it's interesting with the voices we hear that's what you're hearing. what i'm hearing is there's a small handful of companies in
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the country, like google have made their employees rich by sharing equity with them and there's another way all companies can share some of the profits. by the way, very popular -- >> charles -- >> popular technique. >> charlie. >> go ahead, adam. >> i'm saying this is a popular technique throughout corporate america, profit sharing plan. we have someone -- >> i'll give you a tax incentive to do it. >> think about did, we have someone who wants to be taken serious as a presidential candidate, lays out a major economic speech and comes up with these -- >> you know what -- >> -- hogwash. >> i think that's worked in the last election. it's all about politics and populism the idea corporations aren't sharing wealth gary k. >> look in my world, it's free markets and you let the corporations decide. i just have a simple problem with government day in and day out telling business what they have to do.
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and the last i looked people running the government over the last 10 15 years has created $18 trillion in debt they have no right to tell anybody what to do with their money until they get their own house in order. >> we'll leave it right there. >> thank you. >> one airline has a message before you board the plane, keep it civil but are airline policies making it uncivil? >> expedite the boarding process keeping the entry way clear until your row is called. >> hi do you mind if i squeeze through? >> i don't think so. do you want to know how hard it can be to breathe with copd? it can feel like this. copd includes chronic bronchitis and emphysema. spiriva is a once-daily inhaled
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>> that video, by the way, showing passengers trying to board a flight. airlines are making us feel like animals.
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if i ever have. >> you know what no. flyers are just mad because the planes are actually full, and they got used to being on planes when they were going bankrupt and, by the way, if you act like a 3-year-old jetblue is going to be your daddy, and that's what's going on. people act like children. >> the stock started going down. they've not been in the game of treating us all. what do you say, gary kay? >> my only complaint is prices keep going up. look i think it's convenient. i think the airlines do the best job. there's a lot of people flying. wron where ben is coming from on how bad this is but i fly just about every week. they do a fine job. >> i kind of lean towards ben on this one. i swear the next time i ride
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coach, i might walk or take a bus. what do you think, adam? >> well you're a big guy, charles. i sympathize with you being squeezed into those seats. i think they do a really good job of moving us around the world safely. i just can't -- >> it is not the fault of the airline that some tool takes his shoes off and puts his frito smelling feet on the armrest between the seats. that has nothing to do with the airline. that is -- >> yes, it does. they should tell them not to do it. >> they do. >> people behave badly. >> i will say this. you go on a flight and you see people no doubt about it but the airlines make it worse. they treat you like -- >> it's always so unorganized. >> is that organized? people are animals. >> wow. look at the time.
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