raising the wage rate is not the fix. i think we can agree on that one >> yeah. it's a good point >> if you think it's so great -- >> just do it right now. >> i think neil cavuto agrees with me on this one, but not covering it at the top of his show which begins right now >> we are looking at that wage issue. thank you very much, stuart, and it wasn't long ago where a lot of the employers were worried about a minimum wage. boy, they might be steeling at that now. because across the country it appears to be $15. new york state is the latest state to say you know what? we want it to be $15 for all fast food workers and soon. when i say latest, i say right now only because up to now we see the host of cities try this l.a., seattle san francisco, oakland, we've seen the university of california system. but if this goes through, and it looks like it will in new york state, it will affect upwards of 200,000 fast food workers who overnight are going to see a doubling in their pay. now, it will take over the course of a few years, but it now makes us look back at that

10/10 and say this would have been the deal of the century. and now we've got macdonald on what he makes of this. what do guys like you do do and your brother in the fast food industry do now to adjust to this? what happens? >> well, there's going to be an increase in use in technology. there's going to have to be a massive reduction in the workforce. you're going to see prices go up probably 30% on the menu board because this is going to erase the 6 to 8% profitability in franchise restaurants across the country if this goes through. this is an untenable payoff tote service workers union and they're buying boats with this. that's all this is >> and obviously make some adjustments. a lot of restaurants have been automating throughout this whole process. what makes this any different? speed up that process? because you always hear from those backing this hike you're

creating panic where there is and fears where there shouldn't be will work has how does the market absorb this kind of 50% increase or nearly a 50% increase in a minimum wage without some kind of significant over the top adjustment? if the problem isn't so much how much it goes up, it's the ability to manage it and compensate for it. it's just going to put a lot of people out of business is what it's going to do. and i believe in some aspects it's going to destroy franchising as a business model in this country. >> thank you very much. as ed as speaking, i do want to bring your attention if we can, guys, to washington d.c. in these hearings that are going on as we peek. bob of new jersey getting very sharp question, secretary of state john kerry over this iranian deal. he says shouldn't be a deal. let's listen in. >> undertake such activity. now, previously in security counsel resolution 1929, the counsel used mandatory

language where it said quote the sides that are on shall not undertake any activity related to poll ballistic missiles capable of delivering nuclear weapons. why would we accept inferior language that changes the mandatory shall to a permissible call upon. we often call upon a lot of countries to do or stop certain actions in the un, and it doesn't have the force which has consequences if you do. can you answer simply is iran banned from ballistic missile work for the next eight years? >> no. well, no. do you want to answer, senator? >> yes, i will. >> that is not accurate. >> yeah. >> the exact same language that is in the embargo is in the agreement with respect to launches. and that is under article 25 of the un. and that is exactly where it

is today in the language. but in addition to that, iran did not want it, and we insisted on it. they are restrained from any sharing of missile technology purchase of missile technology exchange in missile technology, work on missiles, they cannot do that under article 41, which is chapter 7 and mandatory, and it does have the language >> well, it seems -- >> i'm -- >> i'm reading to you from the security counsel resolution that was adopted >> yes. the security counsel resolution >> and that security counsel resolution says -- iran -- mr. secretary, i'm reading you explicit language. this is i'm not making this up. iran is called upon >> correct. >> to take -- >> that's far different and shall not >> senator that's exactly what it is today. that's the same language as is in the embargo fill out. we transferred it to this, and

that's what it is. >> not the same language as security counsel resolution 1929. i mean i don't know why you wouldn't just keep the same language, which made it clear that you shall not and because the shall not exists, there are consequences if you do. final question. i heard senator -- i don't know whether that's true or not. the whole purposes of understanding the military dimensions of what happened is not for iranians to declare culpability. but to understand how far they got along in their weaponnization efforts. general hayden, who is the cia director says we have he was that are just that. is it true that the iranians are going to be able to take the sample senator rich set? because chain of custody means nothing if at the very beginning what you're given is chosen and derived by the perpetrator >> well, as you know, senator

that is a classified component of this and supposed to be discussed in a classified session. we're fully ready to brief you in a classified session. secretary has had his team, red team that effort, and he has made some addit johns to add ons to where we are. but the iea has said that they are satisfied that they will be able to do this in a way that does not compromise their needs and that adequately gets the answered they need. we've been briefed on it -- >> my time is you up. but if that is true, that would be the equivalent of the fox guarding the chicken coop >> all right. you are watching a very nasty exchange and what makes this revealing secretary of state kerry is trying to sell this very controversial iranian deal as a democrat, one dealing with all the legal problems on his own. very doubtful and critical of

this deal, this arrangement that some on the panel are saying all give the green light to let iran do whatever the heck they want to do. and the latest here early count of "no" votes on this that seems to show 61 short "no" votes on this deal. now, if you want to override what would be a presidential, you need 68 votes, and you need more democratic senators to join the republican counter partings that would include the likes of senator menendez. but it is very very clear here that this new revelation that there were side deals done without the public's knowledge or certainly the senate's knowledge. that is not sitting well with democrats or republicans. but we just wanted to share that with you because the read we're getting from this is that secretary of state kerrie is not getting let's say a warm and fuzzy reception. we are moderateating this, but man or man. that's a pay per view popcorn at time.

now back to this wage hike. i emphasize when i say new york state, it is the first state to do this, and that will mean a $15 minimum wage over the next couple of years. and the dramatic increase is make these earlier talks of 10.10 minimum wage, and we've got attorney with us saying that the height taxes or costs unfairly on fast food. and he plans to contest it to do just that. randy, thanks for your patience through all of this >> my pleasure >> your argument is what? you can't single out an industry; right? >> correct. our core argument is that this is irrational and discriminatory decision, a rush to judgment to reach a predetermined outcome that isn't based on any rational record and it discriminates just against fast food -- >> why did they do it like that? >> exactly. i'm speechless when you ask

the question >> right. >> because it is such an obvious glaring illegallality in what's being done. it's not like what was being done in those cities where they decided every governor, mayor legislature working together to raise the minimum wage on everyone. here the governor through a wage board has decided to single out fast food franchisees. these are small businesses owners. these are not national chains. these are individually owned. many of them minority and women owners who are struggling to survive in tough times in new york state working on low margins, you just heard it here. and they can ill afford what really is a doubling of their wages over the last few years >> but one thing -- >> 6% >> no, i used to think when this first started the strategy was talk about a $15

wage to scare the you know what out of folks. 10.10, we'll accept it. now we're way past that. the 10.10 thing is no longer on the table. it better be $15; right? >> this is a one-fell swoop statewide going to be a $1.4 billion increase for labor cost >> you're saying it's going to cut a lot of jobs. if you have the case of the governor of this board had done so for -- like in l.a. and san francisco and seattle it affected everybody. i think in the morts of the plane, l.a. the leash industry entirely. but this is different. this is targeting one specific group; right? >> correct. and i have to deal with the reality of what the state government is doing. and it is singled out to these small businesses owners infairly discriminatory, you have to have a rational basis for what you do, and there is none. i have to say this. our governor, who i respect our governor said this says

something about us as a state and as people. he's got nearly 20,000 state employees on the state payroll who make less than $15 an hour. he could raise their pay tomorrow, all of them by -- >> that's a very good point >> by his decision. but instead he singles out the small businesses owners who can ill afford it. and it's going to take jobs, and cause some of them not survive. and it's bad for the state economy >> well, we'll watch closely. thank you very much. and randy did mention a very good point. when you think about it. it's easy to do the big on someone else's money; right? it's easy to say hike your minimum wage or go ahead and change over time rules that effectively means, you know, doubling the salary level at which over time would be allowed to kick in. from around the mid-20s to now around $50400 you're not paying for that; right? the proposal is a lot easier when you are not putting the bill. it's just like going out with

someone, picking up the tab at a restaurant. if you're like me, and i know someone else is doing that, i order a couple of appetizers, i order the expensive bottle of wine because i'm not paying for it. so it is very cavaliered, this is the moral and right thing to do, which is fine if that's your opinion. and then you've got to put the pedal to the metal here and say i will pay for this, i so strongly agree with this, i will pay more for a williamsburger more for fries because this is the right thing to do. how many of you feel that way? it's a condition that tim wahlberg is raising right now and it is rather arbitrary saying eat it and that's the way it should be. >> good to be with you. it's basically name it claim it. we want it to be this way so we're going to declare it done. and the comments were made in the committee hearing today from the side of the administration that said, well, employers will adjust. if they will. they'll adjust, but that adjustment for the employees

will be tough. a number of them lose a number of their jobs and as far as pay and opportunity for sweet spot. and we want so as to expansion in this economy. we want people growing in their sweet spot. have a salary that meets their needs, and also that résumé opportunity that expands their potential for jobs in the future, and we heard testimony today from the committee of individuals who had expanded by simply starting at the bottom working up >> but congressman the typical concern rate by a lot of these employers is that, well, we'll cut back the workers hours. or we'll have fewer who qualify for over time. or we'll just start dropping people. but yet we've got some signs that the economy not across the board is picking up in some places, activity sales picking up in a lot of places. and now the argument is that they need more people and they're going to have to pay them more now. what douse to that? >> well, sure. we want to see people expand

the earning capabilities. but let's do it within reason. let's suggest that now not what's being proposed in the department of labor's rule for over time. that goes way beyond reality even for new york city and san francisco. and so they're basing it upon the fact of numbers that don't fit with the real world. if you do that, you will lose jobs, you will lose opportunity, and you won't have the success stories of an individual test by this morning that started from a grill cook is now a coo of a major food corporation and owns seven restaurants himself and is training young people like he was trained to move on in life and succeed. >> sir, thank you very, very much. in the meantime real quick switch back. we're not going to dip into this now. we just want to show what's going on. it is a hot and heavy battle back and forth with secretary of state john kerry senator john among those and really raking him over the coals. many of them are saying right now that this is the deal that is a nonstarter. but what's interesting here is

not just republicans obviously relations between he and the white house are not what they were. that's a separate little story here. but what is not a separate story is that the "no" votes could be piling up and this hearing is proof of that. we're keeping a close eye on it. we hope to talk to ted cruz who this antiiran deal settlement is building. obviously this has gone far beyond politics. both now saying this is about national security. left or right? they're saying this is wrong. we'll have more after this

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>> i want to go to washington right now and, boy, they are having a hot and heavy neil: secretary of state john kerry over this iranian nuclear deal. we just got word late yesterday,

of course, there were side deals to that deal which these senators were entirely unfamiliar, and we're told that secretary of state kerry wasn't familiar, at least with all of them. that just added insult to injury, democrats and republicans alike pouncing on them and treasury secretary lou is there talking about the sanctions and how they would be rolled out and eased up. but bottom line this has turned into a very nasty atear. so if you were of that opinion that, you know there aren't the 67 volts to override what would be an expected presidential veto, maybe think again. this is where i want to begin on presidential veto. and i do want to get into other issues. but on this one, you are a "no" vote on this iranian deal now. did you hear here or have you heard from your colleagues, friends, on both sides of the aisle anything that would change their mind, your mind? >> nothing that would change my mind. i was in a classified discussions will continue today.

the senate foreign relations committee right now is having significant hearings. nothing that would change my mind. in fact, i think the more details, the more issues that come out about this deal, even the worse it looks. let me give you two quick examples. neil: sure. >> first of all, in terms of the verification process iran is in charge of collecting certain samples and providing it to the international authorities. you know, that's sort of like professional athletes collecting their own urine and handing it over -- [laughter] that doesn't quite work in my mind. number two, the signatories to this deal including the united states have agreed to affirmatively help iran counteract any sabotage measures of their nuclear program. so in other words, we're now on iran's side versus israel, not on israel's side. neil: now, these side deals, that obviously created a bit of an uproar, and i know you can't reveal everything from these

behind-closed-door meetings but that was a game changer i'm told. even among some of your democratic colleagues they just said, wait a minute, we didn't know about this. >> i can't reveal details because i don't have them. so that is certainly a point of contention. the congress, to do its oversight, needs to have everything on the table to review, and the 60-day clock shouldn't even begin ticking until we do. neil: senator, i had wanted to talk about this sanctuary city thing, we wanted to focus on this, and i would love to have you back on that. hopefully -- >> very very important that hopefully, is also moving. neil: all right. and we will have you on. >> thank neil. neil: appreciate it. in the meantime, do you remember when everything went kablooey at the new york stock exchange? well, you know, it did not go ca bluey for the nasdaq, and its ceo is here next. not necessarily to capitalize on that but maybe remind a few folks of that, after this. ♪

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neil: all right. i promise you, we are keeping an eye on these developments in washington at a hearing on this iranian deal that is not being received well, certainly not in the house we're told behind closed doors in the senate. the senate hearing going on where republican and democratic senators are questioning what else don't we know about side deals what else don't we know about maybe side provisions that were made to the iranians of which it seems even the secretary of state is either unfamiliar or not sharing. that's a sin similar that develops in these things but bob menendez, of course, the most heated exchange thus far, saying this doesn't add up. you could chalk that up to production between menendez and the white house but growing fears about a deal that some fear we're being hoodwinked. ted cruz is among the biggest critics of this deal. the presidential candidate will

be joining me in the next hour, and suffice it to say, he ain't happy. while we keep monitoring that for you, as promised, i do want to focus on these markets and what is a down day in the stock market. we're off about 95 points, but a back and forth on this and concerns about some of the pace of earnings and guidance and all of that. but, you know bob garfield does not really focus on the nuances here. big picture for him he likes markets, he likes capitalism, he's a long-term thinker and player and a couple of weeks after his friends at the nyse going kablooey with that outage he has been smiling since is. not that he relishes his colleagues' pain but boy -- well he relishes his colleagues' pape. you might recall in the middle of all of that, nasdaq was very much open for business and the world was pretty much acknowledging that and trading off of that. and in this latest earnings period, proved that he is capitalizing on that and nasdaq is doing okay. very good to have you bob.

>> glad to be here. been a long time. neil: you know, i remember when we were looking at that, at the time that they went down the political problems and the software issue, you guys kept going. and you reminded people that you kept going. and i had dick grasso in, former nyse chief, he was a little bit miffed. his view was there's an understanding among exchanges, when this happens, you all shut down. that was the gist of it. >> no. i think there was probably the understanding 15 years ago. it's not the way the markets work today. it's meant to be a competitive marketplace where we can all step in and really trade each other's shares so we gave no thought whatsoever to shutting down. neil: how much of that was just to stick it in the nyse? >> not at all. neil: come on, a little bit? >> no, we were sympathetic to their pain -- neil: maybe you were laughing. >> we have investors. we have to service their needs. the good news is, we were able to process their trades. we made a joint announcement with them last night, and the only concern that day was the

close the closing cross where the price is really discovered on nyse or nasdaq, we made an agreement where if they can't process, we'll step in. neil: part of that agreement you ironed out last night would be that you back even other up right? >> just for the closing cross. neil: what does that mean? if another incident occurred in the middle of the trading day like it did -- >> it would work like it did two weeks ago. others would step in, i think led by us, and if we went to the closing cross, we would run the closing cross, publish that. that's especially important to large passive mutual fund, you know, operators. so they would get the information they need. neil: all right. you know, we've talked about this in the past. it's been a while, but this idea that mistakes happen things go wrong, but you know the one image, bob, of what i had going on on floor of the big board and i've been in this business a little while. i can remember there used to be a lot of people on the floor of the big board, a lot fewer now. and it hit me, and maybe that's the biggest image issue for the

nyse to address that there are still very few people. trading went out without those few people. activity went on without those very few people. and it almost kind of created an image of the dinosaur in realtime. >> well, i would say this, nasdaq pioneered the first electronic market. that was back in 1971. so if you go fast forward to 2015, every single market on the planet is electronic, right? they don't really use the floor. neil: the nyse has electronic operations as well. >> yes, they do. and primarily the floor is a facade for their operation. the electronics are, you know, dominating the world today. it's also important to to recognize our customers, whether it be retail brokers, institutional money managers, they are coming in to us electronically. so the telephone is not used as a method of communication today. that's the way the world works so when the floor went down, nyse went down -- neil: how many go to your nasdaq market sites? i look in times square, it's all

big screens and all that. when you go to the nyse another tourist mecca. do you see people on the floor -- is yours just big old careens computers, but it venn rates a crowd doesn't snit. >> it generates a crowd and we use it so when you go public, you want to have publicity, and that's our method to do it. yesterday we had blue buffalo do their ipo, we had the dog-jumping contest out front we had a great party, and people were in tears because they've worked long and hard to become an overnight success, and it's a great story. so that's a good news of the facility. it gives great publicity for the firm, great admiration for the employees, a recognition for the employees and, you know, it's a fun time. neil: yeah, it's fun stuff. i used to think heck, can they make a go of this? obviously, they did. i had td ameritrade's ceo with me yesterday saying he's worried the markets won't react well to that inevitable interest rate hike. what about you? >> i would say this i think the interest rate hike has been

certainly telegraphed by the fed. it will happen. and i believe -- neil: you think it'll still happen in september? >> i believe it'll happen by the end of this year, is what i would say. neil: okay. >> and i think that action has been, you know, that action this year has been factored into the markets' thinking. neil: do you think so? he doesn't think it has. no matter how many times the fed telegraphs this, they're not so sure -- >> i understand the point because there's always the hope that it'll never happen. neil: right, right. >> so i think the thoughtful people realize that it will happen. whether it happens in septemberover december, you know, whenever we don't know. but i think it's factored in. but also i think the clear clinical analysis would be if you raise the market, you know by a small percentage, that doesn't increase the cost of capital in any material way and that by itself would not be a drag on fundamental economic -- neil: plus, it could be one and done for a while. >> could be. yeah. i don't think it will be. neil: oh, really? >> i think --

neil: continual process? >> yes. neil: bob, always a pleasure seeing you. >> my pleasure to be here again. neil: nasdaq out with much better outlook today. when we come back, more on what's going on in washington today. a very feisty hearing back and forth on this whole iran deal that, you know, it used to look like the president -- about 48 hours ago if you asked would the president survive sort of a revolt within his party on this whole deal, you would have said, yeah, his maintain veto-proof majority. now it's not looking like such a sure deal, and you can thank ted cruz for that, he's the one leading that effort. cruz in the next hour on fb, coast to coast. -- fpn. coast to coast, stick around.

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neil: secretary of state kerry, not what he was planning for, maybe a little heated, if not hostile exchange with senates on the -- senators, i do not believe he expected as much heat coming from democrats. probably not a big surprise that bob menendez from new jersey would be a little hot and heavy on this iran deal but a bigger surprise that other democrats as well have been expressing skepticism, some of them have said they've been hood winked or special provisos made that are not coming to right as fast as they want or for that matter, as accurately as they want. they just said they've been snookered on this, and that

doesn't necessarily bode bell for an administration that hopes it will have enough vote toss prevent an override of an expected presidential veto. we're keeping an eye on it. ted cruz, he's on campaign stops around the country right now. he's been a very big critic of this deal from the get go. he will be joining us just a little bit later from now talking about where this is going. but right from the beginning he said that any deal that gets u.n. muster first before it gets congressional muster well that broke everything. any possibility he might vote for this ended there. truth be told this thing wasn't going to fly with ted cruz anyway. but we're going to be talking about that with him about donald trump, but bottom line it is getting weirder and weirder in washington, d.c. which brings me to my buddy karl rove, the former white house deputy chief of staff but he's following these developments and this latest talk that apparently

karl, there is no problem with the irs, and there is no targeting of conservatives. jon stewart not offering much pushback on that. what do you make of that? >> well, of course, it's complete bologna. we saw from this recent release of 2011 e-mails from the irs that the irs was targeting the u.s. chamber of commerce and crossroads gps, an organization that i helped bring into existence. and the chamber is a 501c6, an association, and crossroads gps a 501c4, and they were being harassed and their donors -- neil: the president has to know right? if the irs is conducting an investigation and the irs commissioner has said we are getting to the bottom of this and acknowledged there was a disproportionate targeting, and shouldn't the president speak to his agency first? >> yeah. yeah. no, in fact, look, two things.

one is, first of all, remember what the agency was trying to do. they were trying to use a procedure that the u.s. supreme court disallowed in 1982 to try and sanction donors to the u.s. chamber and to crossroads gps. we were uni air waf to that -- unaware of that at the time but they were trying to do something the supreme court in 1982 said you can't do. the second thing is the e-mails involved the irs general counsel's office. there are only two people at the irs that the president of the united states in office, the other is the irs commissioner the other is general counsel. the question now is did the general counsel of the irs alert people at the treasury departmentover in the white house itself about their targeting of the u.s. chamber and crossroads gps? no liberal organizations, just two center-right organizations being targeted for this. they had no concern about 501c4s or 6s that are center-left, only two

conservative groups. but what did the white house know and, you know, did they know anything did the general counsel's office tell people at the treasury or the white house what they were doing? neil: well weird. all right, thank you, my friend, karl rove. as a he was speaking, we get all worked up in our earthly concerns and our battles back and forth. we're getting word right now out of nasa, this is wild, that is saw says an earth-like planet is discovered in what it called a habitable zone around a star that's similar to the sun. and on this planet conservative views are what is excessive as the normal deal. and liberal views are locked out. and this planet's just the opposite -- that's so weird. [laughter] all right, a little more after this. can a business have a mind? a subconscious. a knack for predicting the future. reflexes faster than the speed of thought.

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neil: welcome back. a lot of you thought i was joking about this planet or habitable, possible habitable planet in a habitable range of the galaxy and that i was making

that up. i'm not making that up. i am making up the part that it's the opposite of our planet where conservative views aren't laughed at, but that part i was just messing with you. this is interesting, this is out of cape canaveral scientists using the kepler telescope that can is see thousands of years in now, anyway, this has found a planet that apparently very closely matches earth. it's about 60% bigger than earth though. it's located about 1400 light years away in the constellation of cignuss that -- is that the name of it? i ask them how you spell moon and all of that. [laughter] anyway, scientists are very excited about this development. i don't know what makes them say it could be in a habitable part of our galaxy but imagine all the terrestrial concerns we have and everything we're talking about, and we discover there's another race just like us that settles this civilly. all right. we don't know.

but that other part is true, that nasa is on to this and this telescope just stumbled upon this and said, oh, wow, what's going on? which brings us to peter barnes. [laughter] the very, very latest on these iran hearings which are just surreal. peter? >> reporter: very contentious, neil. critics using words like fleeced and bamboozled to describe the terms that the administration ended up with in this deal. republicans and democrats are worrying this will leave iran with enough nuke lahr capability to still develop a bomb someday, they worry lifting sanctions will make iran flush with billions to support terrorist activities and increase its influence in the middle east. they're also angry about undisclosed side deals that were cut as part of the agreement. >> this deal is fundamentally and irreparably flawed. i believe it weakens our national security and it makes the world a more dangerous place. and throughout this process by the way this administration in my opinion, has repeatedly

capitulated on important items. the examples are endless. >> the way we lose is by rejecting the deal, because then you have no restraints. you have no sanctions. you have no insight, you have no inspectors, you have no diminution of their centrifuges. >> reporter: neil, as you said earlier, it's not clear if all this criticism will stop the deal. the president has said if the congress rejects it, he'll veto that resolution, then it would take two-thirds vote of both houses to kill it, and that's a high bar. but we are hearing from some democratic senators who are very concerned. so we'll see. neil: it's getting to that 67 that's to secure that right? >> reporter: yeah, exactly. neil: is it your since they're still well off from that? >> as you said earlier, they had 60 votes including some democrats to get to debate on the review process so, you know could they get, you know seven more democrats? welsh we're hearing from some --

well, we're hearing from some maybe. neil: peter barnes in washington. a man who served our country honorable captain chuck nash. i never like to go to a closing on a home and realize that there are all these ore extra fees and provisos and charges. and this kind of reminds me of that, that we're getting all these little surprises. and what really worries me, if i take him at his word, some of them were surprises to secretary of state kerry. now, i don't know what's true and what's not. i do know that what we thought was a deal might not be quite the deal we thought, right? >> yeah. and how would you like to close on that house knowing the guy who sold you the house and his real estate business was going to come under a change of management in january of next year of 20 1-7b, and if the new owner didn't like the way he sold you the house, you had no right toss that house. and that's what's happening

right now, and that was the question that senator rubio asked secretary kerry and secretary lew this morning which is okay, so say the next president comes in there's nothing binding on him from doing that. if i were a company that made an investment in iran between now and then and then it becomes obviated what rights do i have? the bottom line is those companies are out because if we reimpose sanctions or just blow away this deal, the u.s. sanctions and the u.s. regime for restricting business in iran goes right back into place. regardless of what the u.n. does. neil: incredible. captain, thank you very much on a busy news day. we'll keep you posted at home here. we're also going to keep you posted on this nasa announcement of the discovery of an earth-like planet. all of that is real, the stuff i said before, a lot of people saying there's no way you'd know if it's fair and and balanced. that was just me just being provocative with you. i was messing with you.

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neil: all right. one of my favorite guests with me right now, dr. al vida king on a new fox poll. christianity is under attack majority of christians believe -- the majority of those who aren't even christian believe it, that it appears to be that if you are christian it's not only isis that thinks ill of you. you know, doctor, how many times have we talked about this when there have been, you know, incidents and problems about how we ignored god in all of this,

but it's much more pervasive and bigger than that. fewer going to church, fewer going to any sort of service. and you say it all explains a lot of what's going on. explain. >> well, neil, first, i want to be a little bit provocative, because you were talking about this new planet with its own sun -- neil: yes. >> -- and maybe there are people that look like us. but from a christian perspective, jesus says in my father's house, there are many mansions. well, god's house is the universe. so suppose be my mansion is a planet, is that okay if i ask that question? the mansion might be a planet. neil: by the way, doctor, i didn't understand a thing you just said there, but it was so profound, i'm going to leave it alone. [laughter] i hear what you're acing, but on this, a little disturbing, no? >> yeah, yeah. it's curious. science is giving us some things that we're going to have to get our -- neil: but on the christianity thing and the targeting thing, i

often think that it isn't only bad guys that are trying to target us, they're taking advantage because they know we're not as religious, we're not as in to going to any sort of service, right? >> well, it's good and evil, and so christians -- i don't want us to begin to feel, me as a christian, to be paranoid and scared and i can't say anything, i'm under attack and people are calling me a hater. we're dealing with some very turbulent times, and the issues are so serious. so, yes, there's an attack, but we're supposed to be fighters, and we're supposed to be to victorious. so we have to have love in our hearts, that's what martin luther king jr. would say or my dad, a.d., or granddaddy. so the church is under attack, christians are under attack. but so many people are under attack, it's time for us to get off the defensive and go on the offensive. neil: but what if it continues to go down? we're seeing fewer religious service marriages today, i mean, that doesn't mean that people aren't getting married, they're not doing so through a religious

vehicle, and fewer in general getting married period? a lot of young people who just have lost faith in not only institutions like the stock market and in politicians, but in institutions like the church? and i'm wondering regardless of anyone's religious denomination if that is something bigger, and that reflects either frustration or a world that has given up on that. >> we are dealing with good and evil, but we're not supposed to be tearful and fearful. we can still be victorious in the midst of whether it's isis or deals with terrorists or lamborghini questions with baby body parts. all these kinds of things that are swirling, if we can stay focused and know that we have some answers, but we have to model it in a positive way neil, and we don't do that. sometimes we're so hateful -- neil: no, you're right. >> and we say the gift of god is eternal life. we should live like we're

victorious and blessed, and that's what christians must learn how to do. neil: it's always a pleasure. you always make us think. and i'll get back to you if we discover there's life on this planet, how's that? >> okay. neil: and we are going to get more on that discovery. this kind of stuff always intrigues me, it's always neat. many of you are saying why are you so into this, neil? when i was a kid, i wanted to be an astronaut. i looked at the capsules and realized i couldn't fit in 'em and so then i chose tv anchoring, and the world is all the better for it. we'll is have a lot more after this, including ted cruz and trump's rifle.

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neil: all right. you know, donald trump is going to be at the mexican border, i think, in about an hour or so, and we're already hearing from the border patrol union that they are not going to be greeting him, they are not part of this. he had said yesterday, that is mr. trump, that everyone would be there to greet him. and expressed, you know, glee

that he is making this a front and center issue. everyone, that is, but senator governor rick perry told me he is the one person in this race who's very serious about policing that boarder and not the theatrics he says are behind mr. trump's strategy. be that as it may, but this issue of the border, the security, this illegal immigration issue taking up now former republican senator from south carolina jim jim demint. it's very good to have you senator. on this issue, say what you will of donald trump, he has made it front and center again, and he is talking about our porous border. how big an issue, defining an issue do you think this is going to be? it brings in to mind sanctuary cities and all this other stuff. >> yeah. neil, it's good to be back. millions of americans are angry about this. i've been traveling all over the country, and americans don't understand why we don't protect our border, why cities like san francisco ignore our federal

laws and i allow convicted felons who are illegal to stay and live in those cities and continue to commit crimes. so an anger is building, and certainly trump is playing on that. but this sanctuary city issue is one that should get the attention of every american. we've seen people murdered and very little done about it -- neil: why do we even have them in the first place, senator? i can understand part of the thinking of it, but then it seems to have gotten out of control. where i sit here in manhattan, it's border not a joke. and i wonder how we got so out of control that millions are taking advantage of it. >> look, the justice department has said they're not going to enforce the law and force cities to keep the law. they still provide money to cities like san francisco to deal with illegal immigrants who commit crimes, but they're not spending that money. so the cities are more than happy to take the money without enforcing the laws. but what we see on the left from

this administration, from a number in the democrat party s a devaluation of what citizenship means. they want noncitizens to vote, they want them to be here, and americans, i'm afraid, are increasingly in danger. you've got one out of every four people in federal prisons, neil, that are illegals. more than that at the state level, probably even more than that at the local level which we have a difficulty counting. so hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens in our prisons, many being let out, committing crimes, coming back in. it's costing americans their lives and millions and millions of dollars. neil: senator, thank you very, very much. always good chatting with you. >> thank you, neil. neil: senator demint. all right, we're hearing reports now not only from the hill, but others as well -- and donald trump has threatened as much in exchanges with reporters -- that if i continue to be treated like i am by the republican party, i might just run as a third party candidate.

it's been done before, but it's about to be done now. let's see, charlie gasparino what do you think? how serious the threat? >> i think if donald thinks that he can somehow enhance his brand by being a third party candidate, i think he'll do it. i think that would be like a bridge too far for him, and i think he won't do it. that's my opinion. because i think in the end that'll alienate him with so many republicans, so many people in this -- neil: well, he's already alienated -- >> ah, not really. his friends still call him their friends, and they really want a change in washington. neil: do they want him? >> they -- i don't think so. i think what they want is someone other than hillary clinton and barack obama. neil: what do they then make of this phenomenon he's become? >> well, listen, some people think it's a plant by hillary clinton. now, these are the wall street types that i hang out with, some people think at some point he's going to pivot and start attacking hillary and he's good because he'll say stuff that the

other people are afraid to say about hillary and bring up legitimate causes like problems at the border in a very sort of heightened way which gets attention, right? build a wall, so to speak. neil: what i love about the build a wall comment is that the mexicans pay for it. >> no one else can pull that line off. most people do think this is essentially, about him and a branding exercise for him. people still really believe that, and at some point he's going to pull out. i think what's interesting about this is that he is really, you know, look, i don't agree with the statements he made about rick perry. i think rick perry's been an effective governor -- neil: no wonder why he winces at, you know, trump going to the border today and more or less saying, you know, nothing -- he was the guy, rick perry, as you pointed out, who brought 3,000 national guardsmen to the -- >> he actually did this stuff. but you look at most of the republican field, put rubio, put jeb in there, put scott walker the main sort of top-tier candidates, they dance around these sort of issues -- neil: they do.

>> -- that a lot of republican voters think are big issues. as senator demint just said. and i think trump getting out there and saying it in a forceful way has them -- neil: you say a lot of wise things, break a lot of news, but i think the most salient point you made on donald trump right from the beginning, whether you accept his veracity in this race or not, he's a junkyard dog. i love that term because that's how he's been acting, and people right now are galvanized by that. >> neil, you just have to know how he survived and thrive inside a brutal new york business media tabloid culture how he embraced it, fought through it. the guy was insolvent at one point, and he built up. neil: like you. you never forget it. >> what happens when you are left for dead, which donald trump was back in 1990, and you actually remake yourself, and i saw his financial disclosure forms, they were pretty damn dell tailed. and he's got to be in the billions. neil: yeah. >> you're going to go from near insolvency to that?

you're a survivor. neil: you dismiss and ignore the comparison i made to you and donald trump -- >> you think i'm a junkyard dog? neil: yes, i do. >> so does national review. [laughter] neil: we'll get into that later. now the aforementioned donald trump's wealth, connell's been going through it. >> we've learned he's a rich man. we already knew that. ten billion is his number that he throws around, we have taken extremely great lengths to be accurate in our reporting here because mr. trump, as history has proven, not above suing a reporter, especially when it comes to this subject. [laughter] now, the disclosure form is 92 pages long. you read through it, the problem is they did not design these disclosure forms with the likes of donald trump in mind, someone worth billions of dollars, because you don't have to give an exact amount for a property like a golf course, for example, down there. you just have to give a range. and the top range they have is over $50 million. you look at these beautiful golf courses, trump would say the

best golf courses ever. [laughter] they're worth over $50 million. how much? we don't know, 51 million, we don't know, and that's why it's difficult to do the math on his net worth. bottom line, yeah, as charlie said, in the billions. he's a rich guy. we can put numbers on his speaking fees, $1.75 million in speaking fees in the last year he had to report that. and just for laughs to some extent, we can put some numbers on something that doesn't surprise any of us. donald trump likes to put his own name -- [laughter] on just about everything. 500 some, 515 entities where he's in an office, chairman, vice chairman, 54% of those, 276, have the same trump somewhere in them. so that came out of disclosure forms as well. for all those people saying donald, you know, for years you guys have talked about there were a lot of people doubting his worth. he says ten billion, this report tells us he is worth a lot of money, it's just tough to put an exact number on it. neil: we appreciate your taking

the time to do just that because on this planet, that's how we operate. [laughter] i don't know about that other -- we check things out. [laughter] all right, thank you, connell, very, very much. in the meantime, donald trump in a little less than an hour will be at the border. we've got a former bush-quayle '92 deputy campaign director on how this issue has come forward. you know, he is drawing attention to undocumented immigrants as well who are here, and at least he has been saying -- and i know you've been way ahead of the curve on this -- that under the president's new policies here they are still shielded. they are still protected. explain. >> well, he's right, neil. and we find out now a lot of the details from the executive actions from last year through the policy migration institute. released a study that showed real details, the nitty-gritty that says there's a protected status for 87% of all illegal immigrants in the united states. so that means, to me, that the official policy of the obama administration is amnesty on a wholesale basis.

neil: all right. now, obviously i haven't heard back from the white house on this. check this sort is of thing, whether that is happening, but you are saying that they are protected in terms -- that's not just the deportation issue, that is actually the whole nation becomes a sanctuary nation that event. >> that's a very good phrase because, yeah, 87% actually have a protected status from deportation. then if you look at the other 13%, oh, my gosh, you've got 670,000 illegal immigrants have been convicted of serious crimes here in the united states. and so, you know, you have the kate steinle case, which is gruesome, but you know what we're also discovering is since 2008, since obama's been in office or a little bit before that, there actually have been 3,000 murders in the state of texas by illegal immigrants, and that's coming from the texas department of public safety, that information. 3,000 murders. so talk about blood on your hand. and so the problem is moving

forward is how many more murders of americans will take place and how many will we learn about? and it's a function of policy of this administration. so trump is right. we now have the details from the executive order to from the president last year thanks to this institute and their report released today, and there's going to be, unfortunately, a lot more bloodshed moving forward which is why we've got to secure the border. neil: i will give you credit, my friend, you were ahead of a lot of folks. >> thanks, neil. neil: we did mention border thing with donald trump, ted cruz is going to be speaking to us in a matter of moments. alz we told you about this wage hike that went into effect in new york. nothing stopping it, a $15 minimum wage for fast food workers that has been centered on just those workers in new york state is, about 200,000 of them. we had a lawyer at the beginning of last hour who said it's unfair, but the idea here is well, these workers deserve a break x they deserve higher pay. wouldn't argue that they might

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>> would you like me to respond to that? >> and let me make a second point. i are -- i recognize the folks in code pink like to hold up signs saying peace with iran. do you know who doesn't reciprocate those views? iran. >> do you -- >> ma'am, let me finish, and i'll let you speak. in the midst of this negotiation, the ayatollah khamenei led thousands of

iranians in chanting "death to america." neil: all right. ted cruz taking on critics in washington who say he should be for this deal with iran because it will prevent war. obviously, he is of a slightly different opinion as are a number of senators on that foreign relations committee that are just grilling secretary of state john kerry. we'll be speaking to ted cruz momentarily. this the meantime, to jeff flock live in chicago at a closed-down mcdonalds, and that's ahead of these higher wages they're talking about. jeff, what's the latest? >> reporter: nobody working here anymore. nobody on the other end of the drive-in, drive through order box. if you ever wondered what they look like when there's no drive-thru there anymore, that's what it looks like. a lot of fluorescent bulbs. this is right alongside the expressway here in chicago, here for years but not anymore, and there are no jobs left here anymore. take a look at seam-store sales,

i bess guess we could -- i guess we could say the positive was things weren't as bad people expected, down 2, same-store sales, and i tell you the franchisees are starting to really get, i don't know, what you'd call it other than, you know, unhappy. take a look at what some of them have had to say in a survey of mcdonalds' fran chi seizes about the declining sales. one says my numbers are not good due to new competitors. i don't see much to get excited about in 2015. another said we focused on the dollar menu for too long and made customers think that we sold cheap, not real food. 700 mcdonalds stores slated to be closed this year in total neil, the first time probably in history that mcdonalds has closed more stores than it has opened in a year. that's what a shutdown mcdonalds looks like here in chicago, neil. neil: robert maynard is a ceo, he knows the kind of costs we're talking about here.

and as jeff was speaking, i thought that's with things the way they are now. now we're look at higher, you know, starting wages for a lot of fast food workers. what do you make of that? robert, can you hear us? >> oh, yes, hi. neil: i apologize. my point was, and i know you didn't hear the beginning of that, was that's what's happened to mcdonalds is before any of these higher starting wages go into effect. now what? >> well, i don't know, it's a tough situation for these guys you know? i think the issue with this when you look at, you know, how it all went down especially with the way the governor approached it is that, you know mcdonalds, burger king they've made all this money, and the unfortunate thing is really the franchise is still going to get the money, not the franchisee. they're still going to get that 5, 6, 7% of gross sales. so it's not really the franchise or mcdonalds or burger king

that actually gets hurt. neil: this might surprise you, but i go to a lot of fast food places -- [laughter] and i see a lot of them are automating pretty quickly. there are a couple along the new jersey turnpike where, you know, you all but cook your own burger and check yourself out. so if that's happening in an environment where the wages haven't doubled just yet, it's been talked about, what's going to happen when they do? >> well, you know, people want service, you know? and like even for us we're a service-based company. we're a daytime-only café that specializes in this, you know, in basically lifestyle brands. neil: right. >> so we are very much about service, and when you actually have to go. and plug things in you don't have sewer action. you'd much rather be in a position where you can talk to somebody, how is your days, good to see you again, that's going to erode more and more as the days go on. and it's shocking they kind of bifurcated all the other sectors

and just went after the food industry, because the food industry is already -- neil: yeah, they targeted just them. all right, thank you very, very much, robert. we appreciate it. sorry for the confusion at the outset there. >> no problem. thank you. >> letter. on capitol hill, you know, secretary of state kerry must be wondering, gee, why did i show up for this baby today? he is getting grilled on capitol hill, as is the treasury secretary, lew, on this deal with iran that many of the senators on the left and right are saying is going to cost us a lot. ted cruz has been a leading critic against this deal, and he even took some heat with some of those folks behind him, some that said this deal was better than no deal. i heard a little bit about what you had told at least one protesters, that this deal is not better than no deal. explain. >> well, in my view, this iranian nuclear deal is a catastrophic deal. i'm here in lafayette park with a number of protesters who are standing with the american people to stop this catastrophic

deal, concerned women of america put this on. and three consequences will flow from this deal if it goes through. number one, if this deal goes through, over $100 billion will flow to iran, they will pass it on to hamas, to hezbollah, to the into think, without exaggeration the obama administration, president obama and hillary clinton and john kerry, will become the leading global financiers of radical islamic terrorism in the world. that money will be used to murder americans, to murder israelis, to murder or europeans. that makes no sense. number two, the second thing that we know will happen s four hostages are languishing in iran, you know, the last president to leave our hostages languishing in iran was jimmy carter, and barack obama's demonstrating the same weakness and appeasement. we're lifting sanctions on general sulemani, the head of the quds force be responsible for murdering hundreds, if be not thousands of u.s. servicemen, and yet we're

leaving a christian pastor, aha lean, an american citizen, a reporter to languish in iranian hell holes. but the third and most consequential, the most con again, result of this deal if it goes through is it will only accelerate iran's acquiring a nuclear weapon, and the ayatollah khamenei is a radical religious zealot who has pledged death to america. the odds are unacceptably high if iran acquires a nuclear weapon they would use that nuclear weapon in the skies of tel aviv or new york or los angeles. neil: all right. now a lot else going on, and i don't know where this vote goes ultimately in the senate senator, but i do know there's a separate, you know, fiery storm building up over this planned parenthood issue. nancy pelosi was saying there's no scandal -- i want you to react to this, nancy pelosi. >> everybody's calling for an investigation. let's have an investigation of those people who were trying to

ensnare planned parenthood in a controversy that doesn't exist. neil: what'd you think of that? >> you know, i would say that i think every american should watch the videos of planned parenthood, just watch them. see senior officials at planned parenthood laughing over sips of wine, bargaining over the sale of body parts of unborn children. one official was so callous and cavalier to say she hoped to sell enough body parts of up born children to -- unborn children to buy herself a lamborghini. and i would encourage americans just to ask yourself, are those my values? i appreciate nancy pelosi answering that question that yes, those are her values, apparently. but nancy pelosi watches those videos, and she feels sorry for the planned parenthood leaders that are bargaining over selling body parts. i will tell you, in the course of those videos, both of those officials appear to confess to multiple felonies.

it is ten years' jail time to sell the body parts of unborn children for profit, and both of them are doing that. there needs to be serious law enforcement investigations into whether these individuals and whether planned parenthood as a national entity has committed felonies. if the the president of justice were remotely fair and impartial, if it were not an arm of the democratic national committee, it would have already opened an investigation. thankfully, there are attorneys general and local das who are investigating. but what we should do now is we should cut off every penny of taxpayer funds. we should not be funding a criminal enterprise that is committing felonies, that is selling the body parts of unborn children. it's grotesque and sickening and that -- we should all be able to agree on that. neil: all right. they come back and say taxpayers are not funding abortions. it's a distinction that they want to bring up, but you're right, it's back and forth. senator, i do want to get your thoughts on donald trump.

he's going to the mexico/texas border a little bit later on about a half hour from now. we're told that the border patrol union that was supposed to be with him today has suddenly opted not to join him today, and it comes at a time when a lot of your colleagues also running for president are saying trump is overdoing it. rick perry, your fine former governor, was with me yesterday saying that, you know, trump is a cancer on conservativism that he's, to quote mike owe, among those who is going too far and maybe at the expense of all the republicans tucking the oxygen out of -- sucking the oxygen out of the room. you've heard that analogy. do you think that trump is going too far? >> look, donald trump is a friend of mine. i like and respect donald. you know, he speaks in a colorful way. he speaks in a way that you and i don't speak. but i commend him for focusing the attention of the country on the problem of illegal immigration, on the problem of sanctuary cities, on the problem

of the obama administration releasing hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens with criminal convictions -- neil: no, no, no, all the other critics agree with you on that. they say he's all but become a farce. you don't agree with that? >> no. neil: your criticisms have been, at best, tepid, and i wonder why. >> no, no. with respect, neil, they don't agree with me on that. most of the other candidates running have been vocal aggressive advocates of amnesty. i've been leading the fight against -- neil: no, i'm sorry, i was talking about the reaction to donald trump. i apologize for the confusion. you have not been as vocal -- >> and, in fact, to the contrary. many of the oh other republican candidates have used this opportunity to take a stick and smack donald trump. i ain't gonna do it. i'm not going to attack him personally or impugn his character. if others want -- neil: it's pretty clear -- say what you will about donald trump, he obviously doesn't share that ronald reagan

commandment. >> well, that's his choice. neil: he said he only responds in kind. if someone has said something nasty about him, he will respond in kind. but obviously that reagan commandment's been violated here, right? >> well, i'll tell you, neil, my view is not to respond in kind you know? scripture teaches that if someone visits evil upon you you should repay them in kindness, and that's like heaping coals on top of their head. if others attack me, i respond by praising them. if others want to attack donald trump, they can do it. i ain't gonna do it. i am going to sing the praises of every republican candidate in in this field, and i'm going to focus on the issues american people care about,s and jobs and growth and opportunity protecting our national security, defending our constitutional rights and restoring america's leadership in the world. [applause] neil: senator cruise, thank you very much -- senator cruz. at lafayette mark, just across the treat from the white house -- the street from the white house.

you never say never because we've got a lot of people in this race. anything can happen. getting ready for donald trump at the border, we're getting ready for, you know, an update on this hearing going on on this whole iran deal that seems to be unraveling as we speak including a number of democrats who have their concerns. and we are focusing on a discovery of a new planet. we are told by nasa, it could be habitable. in other words, it could have life. and a lot of you have been correcting me to say, neil there aren't people on this planet. still another one said, neil, if it was inhabited, i'm sure it wouldn't be inhabited by the likes of idiots like you. well, then again, you don't know that, do you? you really don't know that. maybe the planet would not like you there, and maybe i would be the one saying, hey, get off my planet. [laughter] it could be. more after this.

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neil: all right the scene last night in new york city, just around the block from us in times square there was a protest, this doesn't happen too often in this city, against this iranian deal, the treatment we have with iran an among those arrested for civil disobedience, a big new york city councilman or assemblyman. he joins us on the phone today. doug, what happened exactly? >> well the arrests was outside of senator schummer's office. there was a demonstration trying to convince senator schummer usually very smart guy.

neil: reads pretty fast, take him a decision to come to the decision on disasterous deal with iran that will guarranty a nuclear bomb for them. it is just a question of when, now or later and you know, i and a group of other people got arrested outside of his office. we're trying to convince him to do about the right thing. forget about majority, minority leader, do the right thing and oppose this disasterous deal not only for our friends in the middle east but for america. a nuclear iran, which will happen, sooner or later, no question about that -- neil: they say it won't. i'm trying to give the administration's view on this. they say, you don't know the for example, the details of this deal and that they have provisions in there to prevent that sort of thing from happening and now they are arguing this at least provides the first mechanism that we know of to police what they're up to

and absent this there is no way we'll know what they're up to. so your way is the way that is going to insure your doomsday scenario, not their way. >> neil, the stories coming out almost daily, including "the new york times" which supports the deal, story in today's "new york times" from nuclear scientist who is have been involved with the tehran-iran situation saying the hole that thing, this thing is so full of holes like swiss cheese it is just dishonest from the president, from this administration that we will know what they're doing. neil: what if it is too late though? another thing i want to raise here, let's say ultimately they do hear what you're saying, even chuck schumer says, dov is right, this is a stupid deal. i'm among those that reject it. we even get to the 67 senate votes enough to override -- >> i believe. neil: hear me out though. we heard it expressed by

lawyers, too late, because the u.n. security council voted unanimously to accept the deal which means all the country, france, britain, you know the drill, have said, all right all the sanctions we have against iran go away and iran gets tens of billions of dollars any way no matter what we do, what do you think? >> the united states is still the most important country in the world and if the congress of the united states overrides the president, and i think we have a real shot at getting that done it will be a lot of work but it is very doable, it will be a very powerful statement and also will have major rep percutions. look, most of the world, neil, they're rushing, they're on their way to tehran. they have already been there making their deals, the chinese, the russians, and some of the europeans. they want to make deals. you know, it is sort of like, i was looking back at 1938 claim birlane.

it took a couple of weeks, all the editorials praising chamberlain. this is a great deal. this will avoid war. and we all know the results of peace in our time in 1938. that it resulted in the worst catastrophe in the world. neil: all right. >> so look, look, we're in a bad situation. you have the president right now refusing all of us. if you oppose his deal, his deal, then you are like one of those people who supported the war in iraq. you're a warmonger. i'm a war morninger, you're a warmonger. hillary clinton who support the iraq thing is a warmonger. this president is unbelievable in the chutzpah. he talks about having an honest debate and open debate but if you disagree with him, you're a warmonger. it is exactly what my president said to me and to americans, most americans, who don't trust iran. the hundred -- $150 billion the iranians will get, i mean, you know what bothers me more than anything, neil?

they are laughing at us. can you imagine rouhani, khamenei, saying, what a bunch of stupid americans? neil: we'll see. nowhere near done. as you indicated in washington it is nowhere near a slam dunk either. >> thank you so much, neil. neil: i'm glad you survived last night. what makes the assemblyman stand out by the way, democrat, very big and powerful democrat, was recently a fan of president barack obama. we'll have more after this. we live in a world of mobile technology, but it is not the device that is mobile

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>> we're back here on "cavuto: coast to coast" with your fox business brief. i'm connell mcshane. we were talking earlier about donald trump and how much he is worth. nothing compared to this guy. the 43 billion-dollar man, mark zuckerberg of facebook fame is officially the ninth richest person in the world. he passed founder of ikea who you know is the richest man in sweden. big run-up in facebook stock that is actually true. the run-up in facebook helping zuck. it was close to up to 52-week high territory. in fact on tuesday facebook did close at a 52-week high. some other stocks here real quick before we go back to neil that are doing very, very well today, foot locker, cheesecake factory, people are monkery and nike and under armour we talked about a lot lately. "cavuto: coast to coast" is back in a moment with the dow down 112 points so far today.

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running for republicans. neil: oh, no he didn't. yes he did. former texas governor going tit-for-tat with donald trump. you might recall it was donald trump who first went after mr. perry over those glasses. wonder if there was glass in the glasses. and that got the governor going back at trump saying that he is a cancer on conservatism and on and on we go. but it is nasty, just minutes ahead of donald trump appearing at the border as if to stick it to the former texas positive one more time. that someone has got to do something about that border, even though it was rick perry who brought 3,000 additional troops to the border to try to do just that rand he did do just that. joe piscopo with me on how donald trump is bringing out the worst in these guys and this angry exchange. what do you make of it? >> i know donald. you know donald. he is nice guy. not a racist. got to say that up front. on radio we do it every morning.

"the donald" is a good guy. neil: you just want to host the miss universe pageant. you hadyou should be worried because he doesn't have it anymore. >> every time on this show rick perry is good guy with the clark kent glasses. we did a whole bit on show months ago. we were ahead of curve mr. cavuto, with the glasses. he rose to the top of this whole gop field -- neil: much better candidate now than he was four years ago. >> he is doing exactly what donald said. i don't agree with the way donald said -- neil: has nothing to lose doing it. why not go back it. >> i don't agree we said about john mccain. rick perry is looking for poll points now. neil: what is weird, you have to admit, why are so few of the candidates willing to take trump on? i know the reagan commandment but they are afraid of him. trump to his credit, will go right at you and he says anything nasty you said has been in response to someone saying nasty about him but he overleverages that. >> he does. he pushes buttons.

don't you think so? neil: so do you. i hear how you treat listeners. >> you do go there, what did he just say? donald is same thing. rick perry, protect tiff new york guys, jersey guys to protect donald a little bit, if texas picks on donald a little bit i don't that is fair. perry is 1%. donald is leading the pack. neil: why i think perry has nothing to lose. >> exactly right. what lindsey graham did, how great was that. that was so smart. he can thing donald. neil: the counter argument that proverbial sucking all the oxygen out of the room and candidates can't state their mind. >> it will settle down. i love it. it is a reality show. what will be watching? jeb bush, jeb bush? that was dana carvey impression. neil: your guy. >> you know what? i'm looking at now -- neil: it is christie, i can tell. >> i love the governor. neil: why? >> went back to help sandy victims today.

it is a jersey thing. it is loyalty thing. i like marco rubio. going to let me off the hook. i'm sorry, mr. cavuto. neil: you like him. the rap against him things have not improved in new jersey, but be fair to the governor, well, i'm dealing with a democratic legislature. >> that is very true. you know who took a lot of thunder from chris christie is donald trump because people like plain speak. donald is addressing issues. i don't agree with how donald said it or what he said about mexicans or about veterans and john mccain but at least he said something. neil: we joke about it a lot but, i think mainstream media has a problem with the messenger, trump the messenger they go after that. they're losing sight he has a message apparently resonating. >> that's exactly right. neil: they don't get that. >> right. they have to listen to the people. for "the donald" to draw 15,000 people in arizona. when donald goes up to the podium, i'm not condoning what he said or how he says it.

even when, i just, i can't express that enough, but he is great at the podium. he is saying things that really strike a chord. if he would, donald trump lay back just a little bit, i'll tell you what he would be the guy. he would really be the guy. neil: you think so? >> no. neil: that's good. so -- [laughter] why? what do we get out of this? joe, thank you very, very much. >> i'm sorry. neil: all the stars "saturday night live," all these many, many years, certainly the best sinatra. >> cool, cool, baby. neil: i can't even do it. you have that deep voice. donald trump speaking of whom is about to arrive at the texas border now. what is interesting the border patrol union that was supposed to join him there, they're not. we don't know whether the union was under pressure not to appear to him or appear too political but he is there. this is the trump entourage, right? if he were president he would

pay all of this himself. these are the cars and vehicles he normally takes with him. like the way piscopo arrives. >> oh, yeah. neil: there is the piscopo entourage on the way. we'll have more after this

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>> two-seater. >> that is genius analysis. i don't know, looks big to me. neil: thinking of donald trump and this planet thing and if this other planet was competing with us and leading america how would he deal with this? >> should we launch the other plane? >> we're happy that they found earth's bigger, older cousin so we'll have somewhere to ship the trump ego as gets bigger. neil: i hate to tell you, on these issues he is raise nating and pounding them again and again. >> he is also alienating latino voter more than other republican cost imagine. at a time when the republican party needs to bring the latino voter back into the party -- neil: why is he leading in the polls. >> because he is a showboater. that's y he is on television. neil: you're in that mainstream think that miss night i don't

watch his show and i'm not watching this show either. neil: what do you mean you're not watching this show? you're on it! >> i meant the trump traveling circus. that is what i meant. >> she is right to the extent, by the first person ever called dagen mainstream. neil: i'm sorry about that. >> this any way, shape or form. he is leading because he is getting a lot of attention. more attention he gets more he goes up. it will be interesting to see -- wake up every morning there has never been a morning yet where we have woken up there hasn't been something interesting to say about trump. neil: so, did the rage it is pallable out there and he speaks to it. >> right. neil: and he is also, we were talking about how he never turns down an interview. talk to everyone. a lot of candidates calibrate with whom they speak and whether to speak with certain network. >> that's true. neil: he will do, door rat explorer. there is a -- dora, the explorer. there is frankness that ignore the brass and other stuff and

little bit of ego, that is more than a short term herman cain sensation. that is all i'm saying. >> oh, yeah. >> unless he continues to insult everybody across the country. neil: don't want to rush you but to see donald trump descend. >> no one descends like i do. >> not jesus christ coming out of the plane. neil: that is not him s that a stunt double? >> pint out, neil, this is -- neil: well, he is going to be a the border. what do you make of the fact that the border patrol union that was supposed to join him today nixed it? i think someone decided i don't think it is good for you guys to be there. it is political event. >> i don't know. what do you think he will say? neil: i think you know, connell. i don't think you're sharing. >> my point was bush 43, george w. bush, made real

headway into bringing latino voters over to the republican party and it will be critical in the coming election -- you have president obama who won colorado, nevada, virginia, and florida in part because of the latino voter. neil: you don't know that he is alienated latino voters. you don't know that. he got a lot of -- >> you know how i know he has? it is not just the mexicans. it is anybody who is latin or hispanic immigrant in this country or child of one is now being targeted by the people who he has stirred up in this country. that is what i'm saying. i heard that time and again. they worry about it. neil: here's where i say your mainstream media think which is rare, i say why. there is collective dismissiveness of this guy and i think it is at great peril he is dismissed because he is controlling the agenda. he is controlling the agenda. he is controlling the lead in the polls and he is controlling the debate among the others. >> you're dismissing me for being as brash as he is not just

liking him. i'm speaking my mind. neil: i don't know what you're saying but i think you just made fun of me. >> if you're patting him on the back of speaking his mind and being frank, i'm just doing the same thing. neil: not on my planet. >> get out of here. neil: you will not do that on my planet. >> imagine if immigration comes up on that planet. neil: what, this is 1400 light years, this is wild. >> you love this story. neil: i do love this story. they have discovered what seems to be a planet much like earth a little bigger, in what they call a habitable zone or one that could sustain life. i don't know how they came to that conclusion. do you think there is donald trump version on that planet? >> the less anticipate hope. >> i hope the inhabitants look like harrison ford, not lynn farred nimoy, no off phones to him. -- offense to him. >> donald trump going up in the polls. point francis going down. that is where they are. neil: that's wild. we were wondering, i was talking

with my floor buddy. what was going on earth 1400 years ago. that is the first images we're getting from this planet. >> how was it, neil? >> right. what was going on, really? neil: what was it, roman empire. >> roman empire. >> if people want to vote for donald trump that is this country. if what he is telling you resonates with you, so be it. neil: i'm not saying resonates with my. >> not you but universal you. neil: but i think, funny, there is certain, we have fun with it and all but he is upending all of these guy's gains. >> no doubt. >> one of the main things -- neil: on this other planet they're amazed by it. that is weird. because 1400 years ago but they're getting first image. >> doesn't mean he doesn't have a ceiling, right? not dismissive of him to say certain level because his negatives are so high he can't go above. that is not dismissing him but he has a lot of challenge. >> one of the things he talks

about a 1900-mile wall. neil: that mexico will build. that i admire him. >> when is republican or conservative voting for giant infrastructure project? we had to listen to president obama talk about that for seven years that is the reason you vote for donald trump? neil: you seem angry. what was going on? are you just angry? >> what do you mean angry? i'm passionate. i'm passionate. neil: discovery of this planet unnerved you, didn't it? >> i'm excited about that. you know i'm a huge nerd as are you. neil: well that's debatable, the nerd part. connell, i'm looking at this looking at border thing, looking at this race that shows that he is the most popular republican presidential candidate for the time-being. thinking of that fox debate coming up on august 6th. >> oh, boy. neil: he will be the center of it. >> of course, of course. >> who will not watch that? >> that's is the thing. normally the first debate, let's see how it goes.

maybe somebody makes one comment that makes attention. everybody is being careful. you can't be careful. he won't allow you to do. neil: he is not being careful. but you know, to his credit he is going back, yeah, this seems to tentative. >> every time you attack him he attacks you back and get more attention. every time he gets attention he goes up in the polls so -- neil: he said he didn't attack anyone who didn't attack him first. >> trump but that is the point. >> i know you are but what am i, infiniti. >> are you doing trump or? >> peewee's big adventure. neil: i'm thought you were saying rubber or glue, that bounces off me -- >> third party candidate. you talked about earlier, so ross perot. neil: he is dialing that back a little bit, the third party thing. that is clearly a threat. republicans better be clear how you deal with him. you anger "the donald" you could be dealing with stuff. >> it's a threat but that is

exactly how he phrased it. got to be threat. if you're not nice to me, look out, i will run against you. >> by the way, john mccain insult, this has been written about, that was a chris rock joke. neil: it was, really? >> needs to come up with new material. neil: i had no idea. >> i said i thought that the line about, i prefer people who didn't get captured, he told it as a joke. it didn't go over as a joke. he just say i'm not apologizing. neil: all extemporaneous, things on the fly, things will happen like happen on the show. >> the three of us right now. let's get out of here. neil: now if we were under the 24/7 and things we said and response to reporters or doing things off-the-cuff at announcement, who knows what would happen. it happens disproportionately to him. i'm telling you, that is his allure, the draw that brings crowds in. by the way same crowds to bernie sanders. >> she just looks angry. >> my face at rest makes me look

like -- neil: you're just angry. that is what imus used to say. >> happy birthday to the i-man. neil: 75, right? >> absolutely. neil: doesn't look a day over 74. what was he going to do for his birthday? >> i'm sure he watching us. neil: i doubt it very, very much. guise, i want to look at corner of wall and broad, the dow down 75 1/2 points. much of it focused on earnings guidance. not so much earnings what they're forecasting. what they have been saying, they're not looking forward to what is coming down but they often have been wrong. what do you think? >> the stock market, a lot of these stocks have had such great runs, if you don't get 100% great news from the last three quarters and three quarters ahead you're growing to have a pullback but you still see names like starbucks, a lot of consumer names. it has been nike and under armour to name a few

hitting all-time highs. >> high expectations like companies for apple. we have to adjust to new environment where we have high interest rates. we're getting there to that point. neil: thank you, guys, very, very much we await for mr. trump to descend from that aircraft that is bigger than air force one. i now go to trish regan. trish? trish: thank you very much. welcome to "the intelligence report." texas getting trump. "the donald" touched down at the texas-mexico border. any minute he is about to walks out of his plane. you're looking live pictures from the airport where his plane touched down in laredo. he will spike about the border and border control and wall he wants mexico to build and pay for. on fox and friends, he was invited to speak by border patrol himself because the president wasn't allowing them to do their jobs. take a listen to this. >> i've been invited by the border patrols.