do you have a "strange inheritance" story you'd like to share with us? we'd love to hear it! send me an email or go to our website, "strange at 6:00 p.m. if you can't see the show, dvr it. tomorrow, big guest, lee cooperman. we'll see you. lou: good evening, everybody. i'm lou dobbs. it's now clear why most of the congress and senate appears adamantly opposed to the obama iranian nuclear deal approved by the u.n. and clear why there was cheering in the streets of tehran when the deal was announced. the international atomic energy agency will not be allowed to inspect iranian facilities and bases but will allow iranians to perform the inspections of their own nuclear facilities and self-report to the iaea. the iranian site agreements don't approach the standard of trust, but verify and certainly

don't contain anything remotely close to the promise 24-7 inspections any time. the obama negotiating team has basically, it seems, thrown their hands in the air and yielded unimaginable, unthinkable power to the iranians. we take up why critics are calling the so-called deal a document surrender on the issue of a nuclear iran. former nato supreme allied commander admiral james stavridis and james demint here tonight. as the broadcast long suspected he would, president obama today spoke longingly of a third term. it seems mr. obama can't get enough of being fawned over by the mainstream liberal media and entertainer activists like jon stewart, who act as agents of president's agenda. and the nfl commissioner surprised a few people.

the nfl considered the nfl's report paid for by the nfl, and chose to support the nfl, upholding the nfl's four-game suspension of new england patriot quarterback tom brady. we'll take up why that does not appear to many to be fair and balanced with some of the best attorneys in the business. lis wiehl and mercedes colwin. what's next for brady and the nfl? our top story, new reports the obama administration's nuclear deal with iran is a little more than what could be a tragic joke. officials confirming to the associated press tonight that iran refuses to permit u.s. inspectors in iran that the ayatollah wants instead iranians to collect their own soil samples and international inspectors apparently have agreed to that incredible arrangement. the revelation as the president's top diplomat was on capitol hill trying to sell the nuclear deal to skeptical lawmakers.

fox news correspondent doug mckelway live at the white house with our report. >> as i've said many times, nothing in this deal is built on trust. nothing. >> reporter: a new controversy erupted today that could further jeopardize the approval of the iran nuclear deal, it involves two side letters between iran and the international atomic energy agency that escaped the scrutiny of the p5+1 negotiators. the side letters might allow iran and not iaea inspectors to collect soil samples in iran's parchin facility. >> have you seen it? >> absolutely not, i can't. >> you cannot confirm it? >> i cannot confirm it. >> reporter: republican senator tom cotton and congressman mike pompeo learned of the side letters during a visit after a deal was struck. they want to see the letters. >> clearly two secret side deals between the iaea and iran and u.s. law demands congress

have access to the deals. these go to the heart of the inspections regime that the administration hopes to impose on iran. >> reporter: if true, the side letters would blow apart a talking point that the 24 hour day delay before inspections can be undertaken does not impede effective verifications. >> like a police officer calling a drug dealer to say we're going to raid your apartment in 24 days so they can clear all the evidence. >> as i've said in unclassified and classified regimes, we have extraordinarily sensitive ways of finding minuscule amounts that are left over from using the nuclear materials. >> reporter: moniz's argument would be moot if it collected its own samples. the justice department today announced the parole of convicted israeli spy jonathan pollard in november, ending 30-year sentence for conspiring to sent classified defense secrets to israel.

secretary kerry left critics with another warning father deal is blocked, iran's centrifuges will start spinning again. while today's house hearing may not be a ratings blockbuster in the united states, it garnered tremendous interest in iran where it was televised live. live television coverage of anything happening in the united states is extremely rare in the country ever since the islamic revolution of 1979, lou? lou: interest picking up with the announcement of the deal which apparently the iranians will be doing their own inspections and not permitting u.s. inspectors. a unni devopme tod, do. repter:ndee somhing elseo chr abt the. lou:oug,hankso mh. dougckely. the obviously organized efforts to derail the rapidly rising campaign of donald trump. "daily beast" trying to make headlines with a savage attack

on donald trump based on decades old allegations, part of a nasty divorce from ivana trump in the early 90s. for their efforts, trump's imperpetuity and trump's former wife ivana made it clear she thinks donald trump should be president. fox news senior correspondent mike emanuel with the report. >> reporter: with the monmouth university poll showing donald trump building on lead among likely primary voters in new hampshire, attacks on him are getting more personal. the "daily beast" reported his first wife ivana used rape to describe a 1999 incident with trump and felt violated. trump responded today. >> it never happened. it was total nonsense, they know that. and maybe it was a lawyer tactic or something, i don't know where the hell it came from but certainly didn't happen. you would have heard about that many years ago. >> reporter: trump's special counsel michael cohen told the "daily beast" --

cohen has since apologized and ivana trump says the comment was made during a stressful time in their divorce proceedings and, quote, incidentally i think he would make an incredible president. as for the new monmouth new hampshire poll trump has a 254-12 lead over former florida governor jeb bush in the granite state and revealed new candidate ohio governor john kasich tied for third with scott walker followed by marco rubio and retired neurosurgeon ben carson. today walker was in philadelphia, the pennsylvania primary could be critical. >> you want to make a case in november 2016 you care about people's votes, you can't show up a couple months before it. you got to make the case early on. we're here to fill it out, pittsburgh and other parts because we care about votes here in the state of pennsylvania. >> reporter: while walker was in new jersey, governor chris

christie's backyard, christie was on the stump in new hampshire doing a wide-ranging town hall meeting with 150 voters. in the latest monmouth poll, christie is running eighth in the granite state and ripped president obama on his nuclear deal with iran. >> some people think the president is naive. i don't. i don't. i think he suffers from a much different disease. he suffers from the disease that believing he is the smartest person in any room he walks into. >> reporter: governor kasich is seek the capitalize on his strong polling in new hampshire. kasich put out a brief web video today saying this is what momentum looks like and invited people to join his team and make a difference for the country. lou? lou: kasich can speak about momentum, just joining the campaign and making it official. carly fiorina has moved up. there's movement here? >> no question about it, everyone is trying to get on the stage for the fox news debate next week.

a lot of jockeying for position. lou: mike, thank you very much. mike emanuel. a reason president obama's seventh interview with "the daily show" host jon stewart last week was a lovefest. there's a lot of love. here's a reminder. >> the media, you love them, they love you. so is your frustration sometimes with the media? is the media, myself included, are we focused on the wrong things? demanding too much of you? demanding too much of government? >> i'm issuing a new executive order that jon stewart cannot leave the show. [ cheering and applause ] . lou: i think heart felt altogether, according to politico, the president secretly met with jon stewart at the white house on at least two occasions. seven interviews, two secret meetings. the first in october of 2011 when the president was engaged in congressional budget battle. i can't believe we're reporting

this because this is a hoot. and the second meeting was in february of last year, hours before the president was to warn russia against intervention in ukraine. how did that work out? and stewart who seemingly worked in concert with the white house said this on his very next show. >> russian forces storming ukrainian bases, that is blatant naked aggression at the very least, disturbingly shirtless aggression, yeah. [ laughter ] >> did he make light of putin or the russian invasion of ukraine? well, it's always good to have comedians on your side especially when they're helping push your agenda. we're coming right back with much more and much more about the agenda, stay with us. a dangerously bad nuclear deal with iran just got a lot worse. >> secret deal between the iaea and iran. >> there's no deal. >> we've never seen this, are

you going present it to the congress. >> no secret deal. lou: we don't have it and, of course what we don't have congress can't see. that is dangerous indeed. that story coming up. the folks at red bull thrilling us with snow in the push your enterprise and you can move the world. but to get from the old way to the new you'll need the right it infrastructure. from a partner who knows how to make your enterprise more agile, borderless and secure. hp helps business move on all the possibilities of today. and stay ready for everything that is still to come.

. lou: nato pledging strong solidarity with turkey tonight after the country called a rare emergency meeting with nato about the threat it now faces from islam sta terrism. but tto ficis arcallg up tury toot u exssivforc figing between the turkish military and kurdish rebels is also escalating, turkey launching strikes in iraq and syria against both the kurds and islamic state of recent days and granting the u.s. access agait thislac ste. muchore tod's ergen natoeeti andhe nlear al, inedy foerato supre aled cmand jam stridi od thaveou wh us. t's rn fst ttheeeti natto sporturke whatoes at mean?

bad news for the islamic state and the kurds? what in the world is the result? >> i think it's bad news for thislamic st the fact that along its 500 mile border it has a clear and present danger, a serious threat from the islamic state. i'm very hopeful we can all, nato, the united states, encourage the turks to focus on job one which is clearly the islamic state. lou: are we in any position, jim, excuse me, to encourage anybody to do anything? this administration said it would degrade and destroy the islamic state, it has withdrawn, it has not moved forward with attacks against the islamic state. >> i think we are in a position, in this particular case because of the extreme threat of the islamic state, lou, so what nato needs to do is team with turkey and mountain air campaign as well as encourage the turks and put boots on the ground across the

border creating a buffer zone, a no-fly zone, that's the beginning of the end for the islamic state. lou: what does it mean for the kurds? if they have boots on the ground, that makes the turks a clear and present danger to the kurds who have been the most effective fighters against the islamic state, right? >> yeah, lou, you're putting your finger on the complexity here. what we have to do is move turkey back to where they were only three months ago which is at the negotiating table with the turkish minority. 18% of turkey is kurdish. over the long throw, turkey is going to make a deal with the pkk and the kurds. we need to encourage that. again, focusing the turks on job one, clearly the islamic state. lou: we've had an administration again who said that that's job one, destroying the islamic state, and has in point of fact reduced, not raised the number of sorties

and attacks against the islamic state, its positions and in fact we have a subsidiary role in any offense to reclaim territory captured by the islamic state? >> lou, i agree. we have not done what we need to do against the islamic state, and it's not just the air campaign, today we only have 3,000 u.s. advisers in country. we don't need 150,000, but we certainly need about 10,000 more to get this thing moving in the right direction. it's going require more focus out of administration. much more than we've seen thus far. lou: jim, i've got to get your views and judgment on the revelations today that the united states will not be permitted inspectors in iran, that in fact, the iaea would permit the iranians to carry out their own inspections and if you will, self-report an honor system with middle east

nuclear power in the balance. is there any chance in the world that this agreement will in fact, go into effect? >> unfortunately, first of all it is a very bad agreement because of the verification regime, but also lou, what i'm really concerned about is dropping 100 to 150 billion into the iranian economy which is only 300, 325 billion. this would be like the united states getting a $4 trillion capital injection. this is very bad for the general state of affairs. will the agreement go through? i think the congress will vote it down. the question, is you might ask senator demint whether or not congress can sustain over a presidential veto, which is clearly coming. lou: well, that's one of the questions that we will put in the hopper, and a good one it is, jim. thank you very much for being here. good to see you. appreciate your views.

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since then. and today a new poll putting him up with a huge lead in new hampshire. so when will the donald be taken seriously by the gop? here's what ann coulter had to say last night. >> i want to know, i want these other candidates, are you going to run a third party candidacy if trump wins the nomination? he will be president before the rnc acknowledges him as one of our own. i love how trump is responding. he has come under relentless attacks. we expect republicans to come under these attacks, especially when they're strong and can beat a democrat, as trump can. we expect it from the left, from the media. you don't expect it from your own party. and they're all attacking trump. lou: ann coulter breaking out, and i think can you put her down as safely a supporter, an avid supporter of donald trump. tomorrow, congressman lee

zelden joins us here, we'll take up the issue of trump's rise with the voters and where the republican party is headed among other issues. and now a few thoughts about our president abroad and his musings on life after his presidency. a man trying to come to terms it seems with the constitutional reality that, well, he can only have two terms. >> i love my work, but under our constitution, i cannot run again. [ applause ] . >> i can't run again. i actually think i'm a pretty good president. i think if i ran, i could win. but i can't. >> well, i'm a little confused where the laughter came and where the support really was? but first, i'm a little disturbed that our president found it necessary to see three times that he can't run again. that seems to be a fellow struggling with a frustrating

reality, it seems to me. then a little taken aback by his claim that he's a pretty good president. i should be more grateful that his claim isn't more grandiose than pretty good. mr. obama hasn't been pretty good, you can argue he's been very much the opposite, the opposite of almost everything he said he would do and would be. the opposite of the image he projected as a candidate. mr. obama put down mr. bush, as a unilateralist. yeah, mr. obama has proven himself to be a greater unilateralist, expanding executive power, taking the presidency from the emperrial to the authoritarian. president obama vowed to regain respect from the world, yet his administration is a laughingstock all around the world, being played for a fool by iran, russia, china and the

rest of the hemisphere. in his campaign, mr. obama presented himself as a great uniter. he's turned out to be the great divider. during his tenure, race relations have profoundly worsened, 6-10 americans say race relations in this country are bad. mr. obama promised his administration would be the most open and transparent. it has been the least such, defying congress and the news media and denying access to government records at an unprecedented rate and level. but his most frightening statement today, his claim that he could win a third term. why is it so frightening? because it's so much closer to the truth than anything else he said today. mr. obama and our national liberal media are allies, and 40% of the electorate follows obama, it seems blindly, all of whom seem to care little about the direction in which he is leading us all. the constitution is all that stands between this president

and a third term, and frankly, i've never been more afraid that our constitution is in peril. our quotation of the evening, as you might suppose, on the constitution, and the words of abraham lincoln who said -- i have another theory, there seem to be so many such men. we're coming right back. stay with us. guess who is crushing the competition in a critical primary state? guess who leads national polling in the race for the republican nomination? that story coming right up. treasure hunters strike it rich. >> all right! >> but there is a catch. isn't there always?

. >> the main news this hour, the obama administration has effectively given iran a license to cheat by allowing it to collect its own nuclear samples for international testing by almost anyone other than americans. the nfl players' association saying it will fight the nfl's decision to hold brady's four-game suspension, brady's agent saying the appeal process is a sham. we'll take it up with the legal

panel later in the program. trump has twice the support of his nearest rival jeb bush. joining us national review investigative reporter jillian kay melchior and "new york times" best-selling author. donald trump, the republicans are loathe to call trump a front-runner. he is obviously that, is he not? >> he's doing things that are resonating with the american public. he's chosen his issues deliberately. lou: wait a minute, you make it sound like he's cheating. >> any politician does that. if you look at his tone as well, americans are sick of the very offended political culture where you don't say anything out of line. i think that has resonated. lou: i've got him down for he thinks and he talks about what voters are interested in. >> indeed. but i think, you know, with a competitive primary season

there's a lot that's going to come out about his past. lou: the "daily beast" told us about his divorce proceedings effectively. not so effectively last night. i mean, would you call that a smear campaign, a tack article on the part of the beast? >> i don't think it was terribly fair. lou: you don't? you wouldn't call it an attack piece. >> i would call it an attack piece. that particular article doesn't negate things in the past that merit questions. significant support of the democrats, support of the clinton foundation. trump university which are two lawsuits alleging he defrauded 5,000 students enticing them to pay $35,000, a scam run by an illegal university in the state of new york. those are things that should and will come out. lou: well, you just got them out. you don't have to do any more reporting. daniel, what are your thoughts about trump? front-runner? fair game, obviously?

>> yeah, look, everything is on the table as it should be for any candidate. hillary clinton, we should have questioned barack obama a lot more. everything is on the table. he should be able to defend himself, if not, he'll fall in the polls, if he does, he will soar. he has gotten to where he is by talking about immigration, immigration, immigration, trade and the debt. lou: how dare you! you make it sound like these are immaterial issues. >> no, i'm saying that's fantastic. and broken all the rules to do so as jillian was alluding and it's great, shaken up washington. voters are saying we have big, big problems. we could go to the bushes. we could go to the clintons to solve the problems. lou: that's not worked out so well when we've done that. make it a clinton or a bush, that's a brilliant idea. >> yeah, it opens up this whole new person, a whole new way of dealing with things, that's who donald trump is and catching on

fire and that's great. lou: what happened to rand paul? >> rand paul can't be the most interesting man in washington when the most interesting man in the race is clearly donald trump. rand paul lost his allure because there is somebody who says more things more clearly. they're saying things he's more intriguing guy. lou: can't the idea that john kasich, a few days into the race is in third place, 7% in the new hampshire poll. that's amazing? >> i think that's a bit of a bump. with rand paul in particular, he's got two major problems. first is he is typically more of an isolationist. and with the threats of ukraine and isis that's a difficult stance to hold. and trying to navigate the libertarian divide in the republican party, that's a tough game to play. >> that's just it. lou: let me ask you, this looks

like a conspiracy we've got to examine carefully. jon stewart secretly at white house? >> shows how much the president is afraid of ridicule. lou: daniel, you get the last word. >> you can't blame jon stewart for meeting with the president. embarrassing for the president to rely on a third rate comic for advice how he covers this country. lou: come on, now. even i find him -- he's funniesa the dickens, come on. >> he has a team writers. is he personally funny? lou: there's another person thinking, preparing, organizing. what are we to do with these people! >> we need more rule breakers. lou: we've got plenty of those too. anyway, a point of view, and we respect it. daniel, jillian, thank you so much. >> thank you. lou: a store owner sending a clear message to would-be burglars, watch as armed

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. lou: breaking news, california authorities ordering people from their homes in northern california. another wildfire firing up. this wragg fire has been burning in sol marc morano and napa counties for nearly a week now, it was thought to be mostly under control, and then high winds from the north today, fanning flames, the wildfire jumped to containment and back on the lines. deputies going door-to-door telling residents to evacuate. joining us tonight, former senator jim demint, jim, great to have you with us.

and delighted to have a talk with you. i've got to ask you first and foremost, the revelations about the iranian deal negotiated by this administration that we just learned today. your reaction. >> well, this is probably the worst foreign policy decision of my lifetime already, just from what we know. we know there are some side deals, and what came out today is a part of what's going to be revealed over the next month or so. hopefully we'll know most of what's in agreement before congress has to vote on it. as you know, lou, this is going to release over $100 billion that we know iran will use for terrorism. it will guarantee it end up with a nuclear weapon. it will spark a nuclear arms race in the middle east. i can't imagine a more foolish policy from this president. lou: admiral james stavridis, the head of the fletcher school diplomacy and law on the

broadcast earlier said similar to you, that the part that concerned him most is the release of the estimated $150 billion in funds to the iranians. talking with a former senator, i've got to ask you, ted cruise, a flame thrower, outspoken and conservative. did he go too far calling the majority leader a liar? >> well, i saw that speech, and i thought ted did a good job, a thoughtful and a civil job, and frankly the facts i understand i think his talk was accurate. and i'm upset by what's been going on in the senate. i haven't been there, so i can't comment specifically what's been said and done, but the heritage foundation said several weeks back that we couldn't support a tpa agreement because we knew a deal had been made to buy votes. so lots going on that we consider unsavory right now.

lou: the house you have to appreciate, then, kevin mccarthy saying it wouldn't take up the bill, the highway transportation bill, which ended in effect a lot of the -- whatever they thought they bought in the senate was just stopped in the house. >> i hope all americans will thank kevin mccarthy for standing up here because part of the deal coming up from the senate keeps this big government crony bank called the xm bank that died last month and trying to resurrect it. i appreciate the leadership we're starting to see in the house. lou: and the sanctuary cities, legislation moving forward to defund federal funding in law enforcement at least to all sanctuary cities. i imagine you support such a view. >> i do, it doesn't make sense for taxpayers to send money to cities to implement immigration policy if the cities are creating a sanctuary for

illegal immigrants. a quarter of the federal prisoners right now are illegal immigrants, and we've got eeven more than that at the state and federal level. hundreds of crimes have been committed against americans and we have 150 and 200 cities that have sanctuaries for those who come here illegally, and many commit crimes. so this is a ridiculous situation. we still have people flowing across the border. we can't have a country if we're not willing to have secure borders. so it's creating a very dangerous situation for many americans. lou: jim demint leading the heritage foundation, an organization working hard to preserve the nation. always good to have you here. thanks so much. former senator jim demint. on wall street stocks snapped a five-day losing streak. the dow up 190 points, the s&p up 26, the nasdaq up 49. how about that? a big day rallying on the wall street. 4.1 billion shares.

heavy trading. home ownership dropping to the lowest level since 1967. more americans are now renting with vacancies at a 30-year low. and a reminder listen to my financial reports three times a day coast-to-coast on the salem radio network. treasure hunters finding a million dollars in gold from an early 18th century shipwreck off the coast of florida. among the items they found, an extremely rare coin called a trisent enl royal, it is worth an estimated half million dollars. state of florida gets 20% of the haul for museums. quite a find. up next, tom brady set to challenge the nfl's decision to uphold his four-game deflategate suspension in federal court. we take up the case with two of the best attorneys in the business. stay with us. we're coming right back.

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. >> the commissioner's decision and discipline has no pretty in all of nfl history. nfl players' association announcing it will appeal goodel's latest decision on brady seek an injunction and legally kick tail. joining us two of the best attorneys in the business, lis wiehl, mercedes colwin, both fox news legal analysts. my goodness! >> it wasn't evidence, they didn't ask for the phone, there's no such legal way. >> he has the law here. brady said to his assistant destroyed cell phone. and he said he does that because about every four months he gets a cell phone. >> lou, please! >> are you kidding me. >> no. >> but on the other side, you know, they have no obligation

to give the cell phone. >> are you defending him? lou: i got to interrupt. >> i am not defending brady. >> the nfl commissioner just sided with his direct report executive vice president, troy benson who ruled there should be a four-game suspension based on an nfl financed report which was torn to shreds by the nfl players' association. >> wait a minute, wait a minute. lou: we're not through here, we're not through here, madam attorney! >> i'm dying to talk. i hate the patriots! >> not objective, prejudice. >> recuse yourself. lou:. >> this boils down to evidence. if evidence goes into court. forget a court goes into a proceeding where there's sworn testimony, where there's evidence and by the way, oops, i destroyed it, your

sanctioned, obviously, you're not sanctioned here, sanctioned by getting a penalty. lou: there's no legal constraint on brady whatsoever that phone was never sought as evidence, it was not once requested. >> it was requested. it was requested. >> not subpoenaed or anything like that. but it was requested. no legal obligation. i want to go back one step further. lou: let me explain when i say it was not requested. ted wells never asked for it. wanted a third party to go through it. >> that's the same as a request. lou: do i sound like one of you now? >> yes, you do. >> go back to the original report. what they said is it's more probable than not that he had some information or knew about the deflation. >> i just want to you help me out here. how can a principal in the dispute, be also the arbitrator

and the nfl report, the result in suspension and act like that's fair? it's idiotic? >> that's what the rules and regulation say, that's the way it works. change the rules. lou: this has never happened before. the only other time which there was no cooperation with the nfl is brett favre, and he was fined 50,000. >> did he destroy evidence? destroy text messages, did he destroy the phone? lou: that's the nature of the noncooperation. >> but it's a game-changer. >> that could be termed if you were in a court of law, that could be destruction of evidence. >> sure. >> and you get in a lot of trouble for that. that's a felony to do that. lou: a felony? >> absolutely. lou: now you got tom brady going to jail! >> no. >> are you a colts fan? >> i am biased and i don't watch. >> go seahawks. >> no, go giants. >> go seahawks. lou: it's an action that you think the nfl financing a

report with an nfl attorney who had done previous work for the nfl finds that in his judgment it's more likely than not. >> that's the report. lou: lis, the issues remain, the footballs, according to brady's science and defenders could have been explained by cold temperatures. by the way the facts are dismissed. >> what about the text messages between the equipment employees. they were saying are you going to give me the autograph yet? dude, is that dude going to do this? back and forth certainly implicated. >> the rules apply, do the rules about the footballs manipulating them. >> right. lou: do they apply to equipment people or apply as well to players. >> i'm going agree with you. i'm going to throw myself in front of you two. i agree with you that the initial report was flimsy that

probably -- lou: okay. we got flimsy. >> he got in trouble with destroying evidence. >> you got me recused. >> it will be upheld. it's going to be overturned. lou: no junction against. >> no, the injunction is a little different. >> they'll try to get a stay. the two things are an injunction. he may get a stay. it goes into the court. lou: which means that the court, there's a very good chance, is that not. >> irreparable harm. >> if you can't make, it there you go. lou: we have the counselors on the record. thank you very much, appreciate it. mercedes colwin and lis wiehl. time for a look at our online poll results --