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teaching kids how to live a healthier and longer life. david: meanwhile, let's take a look at major averages ending the day. the closing bells are sounding on wall street. it is a negative day. sixth day in a row, barring some miracle in the next few seconds we see a triple-digit loss on the dow jones industrial average. melissa: that would be quite a miracle. [closing bell ringing] david: ain't going to happen, folks. melissa: no. david: we have a streak going, very negative streak going in all of the markets. oil is down again significantly. melissa: while markets wait for tomorrow, here is everything you need to know now. it is exciting day as we await much anticipated faceoff between gop hopefuls in the first republican debate in the presidential cycle. thousands are set to pack the quicken loans arena as america prepares to hear these candidates answer the issues that they find the most important. according to a "fox news poll," 30% of voters say the economy is
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the key issue facing the country. so which candidate is best for the economy? let's bring in steve hayes with the "weekly standard." he is a fox news contributor. brad blakeman is former senior staff to president george w. bush. chris kofinis, is democratic strategist and former chief of staff to joe manchin. thanks to all three of you for joining us. steven, let me start with you, i was amazed to see that according to one of the most recent polls, a "gallup poll," the american people, if they were running the debate tonight their number one question would be, how would you propose to fix the economy ahead of everything else? no matter what anyone in washington saying about the economy being fixed, that spin isn't selling to the american people. who do you think would do the best answering that question? >> boy, that is a good question. i think whoever can provide a substantive, solid answer in 60 seconds is going to do well. among the people i would say would probably be ted cruz,
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marco rubio, i think would have, would be able to answer that question in a compelling way. the real question in the debate whether donald trump will be able to answer that question. if you look at donald trump's background you would think he might be able to but he hasn't done that yet in answering questions in interviews and elsewhere. that will be a big test tonight. melissa: brad, who do you think will be able to fix the economy? you look at their records, jeb bush has a good record on the economy. look what he did in florida. he did decisively lower taxes across the board. you know he did, he was called vito corleone because he vetoed so much spending. a lot of people say he is not most exciting candidate, but when you look at his economic record he could be somebody that improve conditions in the u.s. >> he is solid but so is john kasich. american people look to governors. why? because governors are chief executives of states. states are microcosms are exactly what the larger american global economy is as well.
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look to governors who managed budgets. remember governors have to create budgets on time, by law, by constitution. something that the federal government doesn't seem to be able to do even without an obligation to do it. melissa: yeah. >> but look to governors who balanced budgets, who cut taxes, created jobs. those are people to watch. melissa: chris, who do you think could best fix economy of those on the stage tonight? >> not surprisingly i will say none of them. melissa: can't say none of them. you have to say someone. be a good sport. play our game. >> okay, amongst the candidates, governor kasich comes across most reasonable. if i was a democratic candidate running general election i think he is, he has being a governor as brad said advantage. he took a more balanced approach, as balance as you get i think amongst republican governors in terms of addressing medicaid and other types of issues. he kind of complicates i think
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standard approaches democrat would attack. i think he is probably best. melissa: good for you. >> and i say trump is near the worst, him and cruz. melissa: you had to get that in. >> sorry. i had to do it. melissa: you played our game. did a good job, you had to get it in at the end. thanks, guys. david, over to you. david: i like chris. we're learning russia may behind a sophisticated cyberattack against the pentagon. the senior u.s. defense official telling fox, quote, the incident bore the hallmark of a state actor. fox news's national security correspondent jennifer griffin has very latest details from the pentagon. hi, jennifer. >> hi, david. officially the defense department is remaining mum but a senior u.s. defense official tells fox news they strongly suspect that russia is behind a recent cyberattack on the joint pentagon's joint staff email system. this is unclassified email system. the news was first reported by nbc.
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the second defense official told me the incident bore the hallmark of a state actor. that leaves china or russia. the attack was on july 25th. the entire email system has been off-line ever since. nearly 4,000 dod employees were affected by the cyberattack. this is the not first time this year russia has been implicated in a cyberattack n april, secretary ash carter blamed russia for separate department of defense cyber breach into unclassified defense computer network earlier in the year, david. david: jennifer you have exclusive details on an incredible story. iranian general defying travel ban to go to moscow. tell us about that. >> reporter: absolutely. fox news learned exclusive i that the iranian quds force commander who we heard so much talk about in the iranian nuclear deal he wept to moscow to meet with rush's defense minister and vladmir putin and
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despite travel ban and u.n. security council resolutions barring him from leaving iran. july 24th, 2015, one week before secretary of state john kerry testified about the iran deal to the armed services committees, general sulimani arrived in moscow for two days of meetings. not immediately clear what the leader discussed. the news comes as u.n. and e.u. arms embargo against iran is slated to be lifted in five years as part of the controversial nuclear agreement. david: we're so focused on politics here we missed what is going on but the world continues going on. turning to the markets tesla shares diving on does pointing outlook. -- disappointing outlook. delivering fewers cars. scott martin and jack hough senior editor at "barron's." jack, might this be a good time getting or is this catching a
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falling five here? >> not yet. i would wait until it settles down. this is what happens when a stocks priced for perfection delivers anything but perfection. this is difficult to do, to ramp up a production. this is not expected. i'm not sure this is tesla screwing up or anything liketa. this is happens with pricey stocks. a little bit of disappointment means a big drop in share price. david: scott, the two biggest things i see against tesla, one the price of gasoline which will stay low for a long time apparently, and two, the fact that they seem so dependent on government support for success. >> they do, david. their success tied to issues with states like new jersey and texas played some hard ball with tesla which hasn't been great. you talk about the gasoline price which is interesting and gasoline price fallen last couple years, guess what tesla's stock price has done?
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gone up. jack is right, disappointments hit the stock hard but you're buying a long-term growth story if you're in this name. i've bought it earlier in january, been very happy wit. these days are entry points early to own. not sell it. >> people david, buying the car with prices are not buying it to save couple bucks on gas. david: scott, i think you're selling your book, gas prices people think they're staying low. other car companies having trouble selling electric cars. melissa. melissa: shares down 7% after hours. there you go. see the stock there, as yeah, shares really sinking there in after-hours trading. all right. gym chain, planet fitness making weekday boo on new york stock exchange. no judging. shares fell over 10%. stock ending the day flat. fitbit also losing steam a day
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after the reporting the highest quarterly revenue growth in its eight-year history. investors were wanting more new products and stronger margins. what do you think, guys? this one a fad? >> i certainly don't think it is worth buying here. one of the problems with the financials is that this company gets a lot of money up front when they have new franchise locations open. they sell equipment to them. that growth is one-time in nature. it doesn't repeat. think actually this is what an eye -- ipo is looks like if you're seller. they are getting top dollar. nowhere for the stock left to rise. they're selling you bigger economic stake in voting shares where you have class-a shares where you don't have a full say. melissa: scott, do you agree with that. >> sort of. the other story is the fitness one which i don't think is a fad at all. i think problem a lot of these stocks are a little rich. in planet fitness's case, issue with them they have 1,000
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locations out there. that is tough from real estate standpoint. if you sitting watching us you're doing working out in your life. statistics show more of us work out and eight healthy you about real estate as specific of planet fitness is something i don't like. melissa: david, back over to you. david: oreo and ritz crackers. bill ackman taking five 1/2 billion dollar stake in their parent company mon today less. looking for growth or cost cuts or sale to one of rivals like craft heinz. starting with scott what is your take on this? >> david, i like it. ackman is a great investor. got some publicity with the herbalife tussle with carl icahn. reality his numbers are pretty good. but the mon indolee-z.
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he is rounding out portfolio. david: scott pronounced it correctly. mon dough lose. it is pronounced delicious. good stuff. ackman also been pretty vocal against herbalife. but jack hough, herbalife was up way big time on earnings. has he got that one wrong. >> who to know. what a dramatic stock that is. it is not for me. if you're looking for excitement and potential of a dramatic move in which direction we're not sure, that is the stock for you tomorrow. melissa: shares of keurig green mountain coffee plummeting 30% at one point. biggest drop in the stock over three years. this was a big story, after reporting a big drop in sales of at-home brewers and lowering annual earnings and revenue forecast. jack, what's your opinion on that one? do you like green mountain by the way? >> i do not. melissa: i don't either. hate to say that.
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>> i've been a coffee nerd, roasting my coffee at home. melissa: stop it. really. >> i have. melissa: wow. >> let me tell you something i think this is company in some trouble going forward because of potential market share losses at the office. give you an example. here at news corp we have coffee packs where you push one button and make it. on different floors they deliver fresh roasted beans in bins. everyone wants to fresh coffee. nobody wants packet. they are delivering how to deliver fresh roasted beans. it is better product. melissa: you need to write down which floors have the beans. nobody toll us about that obviously. scott what do you think? you like k pack, clear rig, it is getting too hard. what sure a opinion? >> i don't think the coffee taste that good i guess to jack's point. i like starbucks still long term here especially with delivery service coming to a city near you at end of the year. melissa: they're very inventive. think of something new.
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when you think there are too many starbucks out there and they have one product. >> so crowded. go into starbucks. everybody is there. >> going to be the biggest restaurant in america soon by market value, take over mcdonald's. melissa: thank you so much. great stuff. david: which do have to get the jack hough deal on coffee. my coffee is weak and cold. meanwhile, who will you call? don't ask trump. the hot water the billionaire stepped in just in time for tonight's debate. we'll tell you about that next. melissa: the most anticipated jobs report of the year. what wall street is looking for as the fed considers taking action. we'll have numbers ahead of tomorrow's big report. david: what do mo town and die yet snap tell have in common -- diet snapple. the debate pregame rituals coming up. >> what is megyn kelly going to ask at the fox debate? >> let me check on that.
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trump prepares for his big showdown tonight new information has come out about a conversation he had with none other than than bill clinton. picture that. bill clinton urging donald trump to get into presidential race. our very own peter barnes is on that story right now. give us the details, peter. >> hey, melissa. the details of this story come from the "washington post" this morning. it reports that as trump was considering a run for the white house this past spring, former president bill clinton encouraged him to play a larger role in the republican party. :to inaide says the two men never specifically discussed the 2016 race. was just a casual chart according to the post but the timing of the call and former president's advice are interesting of course because president obama's wife, hillary, is running for president. they have been critical of each other on the campaign trail. if trump becomes gop nominee and she becomes democrats they will be running against each other. here is what her communications director said about the call today. >> my understanding is that
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mr. trump reached out at some point to talk to president clinton. president clinton returned call. they are acquaintances. they exchanged pleasantries. mr. trump told him he was think about president. president clinton wished him well but didn't give any advice. >> trump has come under clinton on past donations to the clintons and their charitable foundation. trump campaign declined to comment on the call as did the former president's. david: turning to hillary, talking about intrigue. new york post reporting that fbi investigation into clinton's email situation is indeed criminal. fbi is not denying comment on story they confirmed to our own petitioner barnes, yes he is everywhere today, report. here is the quote. our investigations are all criminal.
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something that the hillary camp denied. for more, evan thomas, author of, being nixon. chris kofinis a democratic strategist. evan, what do you make of all this. >> well it is not the crime you go to jail for. i don't think. david: hold on a second. petraeus was called to account for it. >> he was. i think she could get a wrist slap for this. she has a very good lawyer named david kendall working on this. david: he is the one who had all of her emails on the thumb drive, right. >> yeah. i mean, look she has got problems, not just here, in all sorts of places. so i'm not saying she doesn't have a lot of legal problems. i just don't think people should get on they were tippy toes expecting her to go to jail anytime soon. david: chris, think of everything she said that is wrong. putting best face on it just wrong, plain wrong. first she said she had only one mobile device. that is why she needed special server. wrong. she had several or at least a couple. she used a server set up by her husband, bill clinton. wrong. she use ad server she set up for
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the 2008 campaign. third, she said none. information was classified. and apparently that is wrong, according to the ininspector general. this is hurting her. by the way we have "fox news poll" among democratic primary voters and her slippage there is significant. she has lost 10 percentage points since june, largely because of this. >> well, i think there are two things to look at. one, the folks that will sit there and focus on the email issue, i hazard a guess a lot of them were probably not going to vet for her anyway. david: hold on. i quoted to awe poll of democrats. these are not republicans. these are democrats. >> i know. i was going to point two, right, point two is, i think because of the way they have handle it, i think not being as direct in terms of addressing it, it is starting to now spill over beyond just republicans and becoming an issue for independents and democrats. when that starts happening, that's a problem. david: right, right.
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i think it is fair to say, a third of the people hate her. a third of people lover, would vote for her no matter what. and independents the third in the middle she has to worry about, right? >> that is where i would start getting a little bit concerned you have to come out to be much more direct what is going on and what the answer is. listen, these emails will come it. david: we don't have much time. we'll get you back, chris. i have to go to evan one more thing. >> sure. david: which is the trust factor. your book on nixon which ace great book. i am not saying that just because you're here. it's a great book. when you lose public trust in issues such as she is dealing with, that is what happened to nixon, all the great leaders when they lose that trust, they lose a lot politically, don't they. >> she is not nixon but she has got problems. these are not going away. she has a lot of different problems in a lot of different places because of her husband's foundation, because of benghazi, all sorts of things. that will gradually chip and eat away at her standing. david: evan, chris, we'll bring
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you both back. thank you very much for being here. melissa? melissa: parents who only focus on diet and exercise when it comes to teaching kids how to live a healthy lifestyle may be neglecting a very important factor. we'll tell you what that is. what do you wan to hear from the candidates in the debate tonight? we want to know. tweet us your thoughts. we'll be right back. ♪ technology empowers us to achieve more. it pushes us to go further.
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that is what makes it important. even with the labor participation rate stuck at levels not seen since 1977. scott martin and jack hough are with us right now. i don't know if a lot of people realize, fed considers 5.2% unemployment at full employment. we're looking at 5.3. they could step in and say job done, looks great out here. jack what do you think of that. >> the fed has to begin raising rates. think of the signal it will send if they don't. we've had rates at 0% since 2008 and it hasn't work. we can't raise them yet. this would have devastating effect on mood of investors. think will find a reason to raise them late this year. i'm not sure the strength of the economy really supports it. melissa: scott martin, i guess the point i'm trying to make, they feel like their job is done and they should raise rates and maybe they're right about that. for moist americans out there -- most americans, especially when you see response during the
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debate, economy is not fixed. >> not at all. melissa: a lot of jobs we hear about are part-time jobs. people working part time for economic reasons, meaning they can't find full-time work. think of jobs added tomorrow, 223,000, they don't separate out how many are part time. >> they don't and they don't separate out those marginally attached, if you work the numbers still in double digits. down from where it was in '08 when we were in the doldrums. tell you what, maybe i'm missing something. i don't think the fed will raise rates in september or -- i agree with you. melissa: really. >> the jobs number, we're due for a stinker. i don't think it is all that strong. wage growth is 2% year-over-year. that is so weak. melissa: that is interesting, you think we're due for a stinker. jack, what do you think of 223,000? that number higher or lower. >> last couple numbers came in okay. i wouldn't be surprised if this number comes in decent.
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hard to tell about any one report. when i look around economy broadly, i'm worried what we're seeing in commodities prices. weakness across the board. that is often early warning about weak demand which leads to weak earnings and weak employment and hiring. i'm a little worried about some of the warning signs in the economy right now. melissa: i agree with you. >> no earnings growth out there. melissa: absolutely. thank you so much. don't miss, special coverage of tomorrow's big jobs number live on "mornings with maria." that is 8:00 a.m. eastern. they will drill down on the numbers to see what they mean. david. david: stocks seem to be in a summer slump. big names on wall street seeing red. melissa: debate moments that have killed a champion. the risk factor at tonight's debate. we all remember this awkward moment, from can you believe it, 15 years ago, this was. of the take a look. >> tell us what your philosophy and what is your position on issues but can you get things done?
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prins and brad blakeman back as well. byron, when al gore tried to physically intimidate george w. bush, this is what happened. >> what's your position on issues. david: we're looking -- we're looking at now. there is al gore. bush just gave him a little nod. with that nod al gore lost, didn't he? >> just perfectly played by george w. bush. you have to remember, that you need one person to make the mistake and other person to exploit the mistake. and, george w. bush did that back then. and now, with this debate coming up, every candidate in the prime time debate has to have a donald trump strategy. and i don't think you're going to see any of them try to physically invade donald trump's space. david: no, i don't think you will see that nomi, that was an occasion of strength winning out, strong, silent strength winning out. sometimes strength can carry over into arrogance.
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we have a klym from the debate between hillary clinton and barack obama. he won the election. some people say he went into the arrogant mode. let's play that clip. >> i don't think i'm that bad. >> you're likeable enough, hillary, no doubt. [laughter] >> i appreciate it. david: likeable enough. wasn't that a little arrogant? didn't that work against him? >> yeah i think it did. that was time which hillary was polling very well. certainly contender there. he definitely came off as arrogant. with respect to male verse sure female element which is something hillary has and he was looking for. so it didn't actually stick with him as things go on. i think in tonight's debate, what's going to be important is to show leadership. showing leadership is about not necessarily being negative or retract tiff of your opponents and showing yourself in the best light and that is something americans will be looking towards. david: or somebody revealing
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something about one of their opponents not in a favorable light. that leads me to wonder whether we have repeat of 2012, rick perry attacked mitt romney, suggested that he hired illegal immigrants -- i wonder if anybody points that out about donald trump? >> it could. politicians have records of governance. business people have records of being a business leader. trump tried to dodge this issue whether or not he hired illegals. look i engage contractors, independent contractors. no, the buck stops with donald trump. it is your building. it is your name on it. if given the opportunity, donald trump has got to account for his business acumen and his business procedures and how he conducts himself. that will give indication how he will be as president. david: that leads me to today's news, the political piece, jeb bush, everybody thought they would lay back a little bit but he used pretty colorful language to describe donald trump. do you think he may actually take on donald trump tonight? >> wow, that was really something.
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jeb bush reportedly said these things privately. didn't come out and publicly slam donald trump that way, but, jeb bush is under some pressure to show a little fight. maybe not against donald trump but against somebody. you know, there was this event a few days ago at the urban league and, in fort lauderdale. hillary clinton is speak. then jeb bush speaks later. hillary comes out and attacks jeb bush quite specifically and at length. does bush come out to respond to it? no. he didn't say a word about it. that disappoint ad lot of conservatives to see him come out fighting. david: it will a lot of fun. gang, thank you, appreciate night thank you. david: we're letters than 30 minutes away from the first gop debate. starts 5:00 p.m. eastern time. only 20 minutes from now. the prime time debate will begin at 9:00 p.m. iron time. back on fox business, our own lou dobbs will be live 11:00 p.m. eastern for postdebate coverage and analysis. melissa: turning back to the markets right now, hits keep on
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coming for shares of twitter. social media network hitting another new low, 27.23 per share. look at that chart. it is ugly. media stocks being pummeled. blame it on disney. a weak outlook for the cable business is sparking fears of cord cutting across the board. viacom slumping to a four-year low on ratings decline and rising programing costs. call it a sign of the times. one company direct beneficiary of cord cutting, netflix. see it there on your screen. shares of video streaming giant jumping 1% on a down day and on track for a second straight record close. there you go. lifting weights but pinching pennies, our panel weighs in on the money, with what will millenials face ahead? plus the summer of love getting a second chance. the hollywood couple checking out of heart break hotel. hmmm.
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david: whether it is on wall street or main street mere is who is making money today. "people" magazine, they snagged exclusive photos of jennifer aniston backyard wedding. guests were thinking they were coming to a birthday party. maybe this is not summer of divorce. steve jobs life will be chronicle ad whole new way, a opera. 2017 premier of evolution of steve jobs. it will touch on jobs's career as well as personnal journey. peeps are not just for easter anymore. the sweet treats are joining in on pumpkin spice phase. other flavors are candy corn and caramel apple. melissa: i thought i never met a people i didn't want to pete.
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-- peep. those sound disgusting. next generation and uphill climb. the good news they will be healthier, just not financially. according survey 13% of parents believe they will be better off financially. on a brighter note, 66% believe that at the will live a healthier lifestyle. isn't that interesting? scott and jack are back along with hadley manning, independent women's forum senior policy analyst. that is a mouthful. jack, i'm going to start with you. because we were talking during the break. you were shocked by this only 13% of people think their children will be better off financially. why are you so surprised about that. >> i don't understand it for the life of me. one thing to be pessimistic about the economy or your own financial future. if you don't think your kids have a shot being better off than you, then something is wrong, you're doing something wrong. it is not about rich or poor. doesn't matter how poor you are. with your children that is where your shot is to make something
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better. look, my kids will be better off than me period. it is no the about optimism. i will work hard my whole life and dig and grind, spend less than i make. that is not optimism. that is just work. melissa: hadley what do you think. >> this survey didn't surprise me. i think it tracks with other questions, like do you think the economy is on the right track or wrong track. that is generally what people thinking about. thinking about next generation than their own children when they answer the question. melissa: what do you think about what jack said? jack said he will not accepting it. i will drive his kids into the ground and tiger dad and whip after them and outearn him and support him later. that is exactly what jack just said. >> they will be golf professionals. >> he wants to be supported melissa. >> some people think my kids will be fine but their generation will not be as well off as my generation. things like the entitlement system. national debt, health care system. some problems we face as country, public policies we've chosen, that is part of their
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calculations when they think about whether or not their children inherit better future. melissa: scott, i think they're thinking in this current economy it is damn hard to get ahead. that is what i hear on twitter. the government is standing in your way. taxes are high. there isn't a chance to get ahead. that is what they're reflecting. used be toe a country like marco rubio side you come and work and your kids are better off. you provide a better life. a ladder ahead an now people don't feel that way anymore. scott. >> i feel their pain. my kids are four and one still living with me. [laughter]. watch out parents, jack hough is coming for you. tell you funny thing. baby boomers when they didn't live with their parents. they didn't support their kids like kids are getting support now. one out of every two groups of parents, single parents are supporting their adult children. melissa: yeah. >> financially. that is scary. melissa: that is even scarier. other bad news. good news your kids will be healthy irthan you. no it is not. mines -- >> they live longer.
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melissa: right. they don't have any savings. system of entitlements is collapsing in on this good news in this survey everybody being healthier and living longer, jack hough, is even more bad news. take that on for me. >> make sure i make my kids are healthier than me, i go pretty hard on pizza beer, doughnuts. >> what about the coffee? melissa: i can't believe you give your kids pizza beer and doughnuts. >> people are looking more about bad guidance, federal government given people on nutrition. they're starting to change guidelines. i think it will improve from hire. melissa: thanks, guys. david, we solved that one. david: get the 4-year-olds out to work. presidential gop debate just moments away. tune into fox news channel, 5:00 p.m. eastern for that. what do you want to hear from the candidates in tonight's debate. we want to know. tweet us your thoughts.
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see car insurance in a whole new light. liberty mutual insurance. melissa: we are just moments away from the start of the first presidential gop debate. jeff flock is out on the streets of wheaton, illinois, talking to voters to see what they want to hear from the candidates. jeff? >> reporter: in the heart of dupage county, melissa which is kind after republican bastion in typically blue area of chicagoland, illinois, talked to folks, put together a panel from radio talk show host, to republican state representative, a obamacare critic, guy run as think tank, asking serious republican voters what they want to hear from the debate tonight. here is what they told news i
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want to see differentiation from 10 candidates, particularly on economic. >> we need jobs. we need jobs in the midwest. i'm looking for scott walker to deliver on that message tonight. >> i want to know what is your position on the roll of government in our lives? what is america's role in the world? >> reporter: and so there you get some flavor of it. you know, serious voters. we make a lost jokes, maybe, melissa about a lot of democrats that will be watching tonight, hoping to play a drinking fame or something but there are a lot of serious voters out there will be listening to what these guys have to say. melissa: all right. no doubt. jeff, thank you so much. david? david: bring in the panel. guy benson, ton hall.com political editor. wrote about this nomi prince of demos. author of, all the president's bankers. evan thomas, author of, being nixon and "newsweek" editor-at-large. guy, a specific policy issues
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than kind of a general feeling what is happening in the country these days. that is where people want to hear where the candidates stand, don't you? >> that's right, david. a couple of things, the people we heard from in that package, are high information, very plugged-in voters. i think there is massive tune in factor from people not particularly political across the country and frankly across the world because of donald trump. say what you will about him, like him or dislike him, i'm not a huge fan, buzz and interest he brought to the race i think eyeball tune-in will be massive tonight. that gives every opportunity, every candidate on that stage, a opportunity to introduce themselves to a vast audience. david: in that case, evan, i'm thinking trump has already won because if it is just matter tapping into jent sentiment of the public, trump has already done that. >> trump has made a splash but i think voters want to see if he is for real. he is good being a blow hard. he is really good at that i think people in the debate will
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want to see something else, is he presidential? can he calm down? can he look authoritative and look like he can lead. that is different thing than he has been selling. david: nomi, there is specific policy thing and that is jobs. tomorrow we get a jobs number. it will be very important jobs number so we'll watch that last segment we were talking about how your kids are doing. most people's expectations for their own kids are lower economically. i know people in their 70s, who their 40-year-old kids have come back home because they can't find a job and can't live in their own home. somehow tapping into that sentiment is going to be important. >> i think that's actually crucial. i think the people on the street around the country, whether you're republican or democrat watching for a drinking game, the point we need better jobs, more higher quality, less part time. also idea of longevity of financial stability so people aren't coming back home in their 40s. so they have the possibility of being a better generation going forward. so they don't have so much debt
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when they come out of college. we have a trillion dollars worth of student debt and rising. so they have the ability to be better citizens in america. think they will want very specific plans from individuals. i think what trump has to say honestly, i think is less important than what some of the other candidates say to differentiate themselves on issues of jobs and economy to elevate the nation as whole. david: part of the problem with trump he said some things are contradictory. in the past he said one thing on taxes, guns or health care. now he is saying something different. when it comes to specifics he will be called to account but from what i'm hearing right now from you guys it will not come to specifics? hold on, that is for guy. go ahead, guy. >> i was going to say when you have a two-hour debate and 10 people on stage it will be interesting to see how many specifics anyone can really get into. i do agree with what evan said, i think people want to hear more about donald trump.
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there is a curiosity factor. will he behave himself or throwing round houses? we'll see. david: what do you think, evan? >> i don't think it is about substance at all. it is all about style. whether trump or anybody can look presidential to look like they can lead the country. that is what people are looking for. david: nomi, are we getting any policy issues at all? is anybody saying this is how we get to that point, this is how we turn the country around, this is how we make sure our children are living better lives than we're living? >> a lot of people here don't think that will happen but the individual that can show their leadership and as well as give specifics in the short amount of time everybody is al lout lotted will be winner of the debate. david: what is the scuttlebutt, guy, particularly in like of what is happening, bush's comments, colorful comments say about donald trump? >> yeah, look i was just in the media filing center hours ago and it was already jam-packed
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with media from all over the world. there is a palpable buzz about this debate. i don't know if you call it the most anticipated primary debate on the republican side in a number of cycles but got to be up there. people are excited. david: i don't think since nixon and kennedy have we seen anything. guy, nomi, evan, thank you very much. appreciate it. >> thank you. melissa: it is game on for the gop. the candidates breaking down their predebate rituals. >> before a debate i normally call my mom to get advice. hey, mom, i can't say that on television. you are looking at two airplane fuel gauges. can you spot the difference? no? you can't see that? alright, let's take a look. the one on the right just used 1% less fuel than the one on the left. now, to an airline, a 1% difference could save enough fuel to power hundreds of flights around the world. hey, look at that. pyramids. so you see, two things that are exactly the same have never been more different. ge software.
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there's a small one. didn't use it today. >> are you down with the gop? candidates are ready to rumble in cleveland are partnering with ig review to share predebate rituals. >> before a debate i say a little silent prayer and drink a diet lemmon snapple iced tee. >> i like to be mentally focused but relax. i play solitaire. >> take my new phone, thanks to the donald. listen to motown to mellow me out. i like that. david: keep going on. >> carly fiorina. >> jeb bush. >> i think pretty funny they participated. you have to have a good sense of humor. david: you do, but i just don't think tricks are working anymore. i don't think, the cuteness or whatever, i think nowadays, what you got to do is hit them hard. that is why donald trump is winning. >> curmudgeon. david: i know. i know. trump is winning with a message, simple clear message. this is the way things are.
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this is the way they should be. we've got to get there. that is why he is winning. >> we'll see tonight. if nothing else it will be darn entertaining. deirdre bolton is here to take you through the next hour of fox business with "risk & reward." deirdre: proof of go big or go home. thank you very much, melissa. fox confirming with the pentagon, victim to a sophisticated cyberattack against its joint staff unclassified email system. now a defense official is telling fox that russia is strongly suspected. the hack occurring sometime around july 25th, affecting 4,000 military and civilian personnel. this comes after the colossal 21 1/2 million government worker data breach back in june. retired lieutenant colonel bill cowan is with me now. so, colonel, you say the administration has a big problem on its hands. what can be done at this juncture?
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