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broadcast at foxnews.com on the home page. i will see you monday! stay beautif good evening everybody. i'm lou dobbs. the first republican presidential debate just wrapping up and the debate has been compelling, at times raw and even riveting. there were fiery, heated exchanges between most of the ten men leading in the polls for the republican presidential nomination. and in my opinion, this was one of the most substantive and intelligent debates i've witnessed in my career. over this hour, you'll see and hear issues the candidates took up, issues that usually are avoided at all costs bit candidates in a presidential campaign. something special seems to be already at work in the race for
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the 2016 gop presidential nomination. and we'll have it for you here tonight. who stood up, who stood out, who stepped back and two did best? without a doubt, much of the attention focused on front-runner, donald trump. he showed off his direct manner and his plane plain spokenness. >> you call women you don't like, fat pigs, slobs, dogs and disgusting animals. and your twitter account -- >> only rosie o'donnell. >> no, it wasn't. >> like i said, something different is at work in in process. the early debate. f, social media, google and twitter chatter suggesting that carly fiorina won the debate with lines like these. >> i didn't get a phone call from bill clinton before i jumped in the race. did any of you get a phone call from bill clinton? i didn't.
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maybe it's because i didn't donate to his wooif's senate campaign. >> i would begin by reminding people that by this point in presidential elections, jimmy carter couldn't win, bill clinton couldn't win and neither could a barack obama. >> the opening moments of the debate centered on donald trump this evening. the republican front-runner, the only one of ten to raise his hand when asked if anyone on stage would not pledge to support the eventual party nominee. >> mr. trump, to be clear, you're standing on a republican primary stage. >> i fully understand. >> the place where the rnc will give the nod. >> i fully understand. >> and experts say an independent run would certainly hand the race over to democrats and likely another clinton. you can't say tonight that you can make that pledge? >> i cannot say -- >> donald trump, putting him on the responsible and his position, trump's position, not
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moving an inch. joining us tonight co-host of outnumbered on the fox newschannel, jedidiah bee la, former reagan white house -- political analyst republican strategist ed rollins and democratic strategy hank shine cough. good to have you with us. let's start with the attempt to get mr. trump to budge. he wouldn't. >> no surprises from me there. he doesn't want to have to answer to anyone. he doesn't want to explain to anyone what he will or will not do. he feels like a lot -- many don't like him. he says look, i may do this or that. they see that as a third-party run would hand over to hillary clinton a bunch of votes. he doesn't care. that's the bottom line. donald trump is there -- >> he was straightforward. >> i'm going to do what i'm going to do. you can love it or hate it. i'm not changing.
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>> first of all, i agree with you. this is one of the best debates i've ever seen and i think that brett and megyn deserve credit. anyone that says fox is in bed with the republican party, hank and i do a board and you put the candidate in the toughest environment possible. this was the murder board tonight. it's a standard that they have to meet. i think that trump's people, he reinforced what they want and like. i mean, he was tough. the other person who performed extremely well today was rubio. i think rubio of all of them showed how articulate he is, how thoughtful he is and telegenic he is. the others were okay. we had a strong field, but i would say carly fiorina belonged to this field and she would have given them a run for their money. >> she may well be for the next one. hank, your thoughts. >> donald trump did himself a disservice by waking up the conservative base in that party and things will start to move in
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the wrong direction. he's telling them he's not going to support the party at a time they want a win. they see clinton as a potential nominee on the other side, winning will be all important. >> as they say, winning is the only thing i believe when it comes to politics. let's go to the paul/christie exchange. that was riveting. they don't like each other is putting it mildly. your thoughts on that exchange. >> i think paul is right on the issue. talking about the fourth amendment and saying this is what we fought for. he's right. he's talking about -- >> government surveillance. >> government surveillance. he's talking about -- >> do we have that sound ready? let's hear that. excuse me me, jedidiah. >> no problem. >> bear with me folks, at home. this is an interesting exchange. if you will roll that. >> i want to collect more records from terrorists but less records from other people. how are you supposed to know,
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megyn? >> use the fourth amendment. get a warrant. >> senator, when you're sitting in a subcommittee blowing hot air about this, you can say things like that. when you're responsible for protecting the lives of the american people, then what you need to do is to make sure -- is to make sure -- >> here's the problem, governor. you fundamentally misunderstand the bill of rights. every time you did a case, you got a warrant from a judge. i'm talking about searches without warrants indiscriminately of all americans' records. that's what i fought to end. i don't trust president obama with our records. i know you gave him a big hug. if you want to give him a big hug again, go right ahead. >> that was a big exchange. i got to say hallelujah. we've got presidential candidates talking passionately with conviction about issues they all want to avoid.
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i can't say enough about our colleagues at the fox newschannel and hillary and her rivals in the democratic party are going to have a hell of a time to match that level. >> i think that was a win for rand paul. i would caution him, stick to the issue. there were moments where i saw him rolling his eyes. that's not going to work. when you're defending the fourth amendment and you have america behind you, america is concerned about government overreach. >> how do you think the honesty is going to play? that's what i say. >> i think the bottom line here is christie was at the bottom and he showed moments of leadership. he had some good answers. again, in that particular seg menlt he showed the bully, the aggressor. you do it my way, i think that hurt him a little bit. >> rand paul won the libertarian vote. that's not an accomplishment. he had that anyway. chris christie won no votes. how does he consider himself a
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contender. donald trump has taken his territory away. >> we'll answer those questions as we continue tonight. you don't want to miss a minute of this. talking to jedidiah, hank and ed. first some breaking news and a setback for president obama. top senate democrat, senator chuck schumer tonight has come out with his announcement, he is opposed to the president's nuclear deal with iran. among the reasons senator schumer cited that inspections can't be performed everywhere at all times. that the united states cannot demand inspections unilaterally and iran would be stronger economically, financially, better able to advance its nuclear program, presumably nuclear weapon program. the senator isn't the only democrat breaking ranks with the president. the top democrat on the house foreign affairs committee, congressman elliott engel says
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he's in opposition to the deal congress to begin debating. the nuclear deal on september 8th. up next, hillary clinton tweeting she didn't watch tonight's debate. she missed something. could have learned something, i think. does anybody believe her, by the way. we'll see when i look at my e-mail inbox. we'll have much more post debate analysis and highlights like this. you're going to love it. >> i think the big problem this country has is being politically correct. [ applause ] i've been challenged by so many people and i don't, frankly, have time for total political correctness. to be honest with you, this country doesn't have time either. either we live in a world of mobile technology,
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clinton and nancy pelosi? >> with hillary clinton, i said be at my wedding and she came to my wedding. you know why, she had no choice because i gave. >> can you imagine hillary clinton right now just spitting nails on that one. back with our panel now. jedediah bila. hank sheinkopf and ed rollins. >> when a guy brags about it on the stage, i can buy everybody. i make them do what i want to do, i don't doubt a lot of them do but that's what's wrong with the system. >> the trump household, they don't send out invitations, they send out orders. you know, on the other hand, it's exposing the rancid system that is our financial support of public elections in this country. he couldn't have been clearer, could he? >> my problem with trump, when i watch this, i walked away not knowing what he would do as
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president. the more he talks, the more confused the audience becomes, you talk about the issues, his flipflop. you walk away being highly entertained. he's great television. but you don't feel confident if you voted for him and he won that you would know what policy would come forward. >> you've got a high degree of comfort with a few other candidates. >> no, i do. >> the trump palace, that would be the first thing he would do. >> can you see that across the balance strayed? >> air force trump. >> i think the problem and megyn nailed him on the first question. he's a guy who basically if the party treats me well, i'm not going to run as an independent. it's about me. >> the question that he was referring to is this. bret baier asked everybody who will support the nominee irrespective of all and one fella raises his hand to say he couldn't.
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>> mr. trump, to be clear, you're standing on a republican primary stage. >> i fully understand. >> the place where the rnc will give the nominee the nod. >> i fully understand. >> and that experts say an independent run would almost certainly hand the race over to democrats and likely another clinton. you can't say tonight that you can make that pledge? >> i cannot say. >> i cannot say i can make that pledge. >> ego. >> that's the whole thing. part of an ego trip. i don't mean to kacast aspersio. >> first, he's not going to be the nominee of the party. i'll bet the ranch he's not going to be the nominee. >> hang on to that ranch. >> unlike you, my ranch is a very small ranch. here's my ranch right here. it's a good ranch. it fits right here. two little dogs in it. >> i think that basically, as
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hank said earlier, people serious about their party and really want to win, don't want this gun held to their head for the rest of the campaign. you make me the nominee or i'll destroy your party. >> he had a view he was being principled in that. he was saying, if he does approve, it's a matter of his principles that he would not violate. >> it's not going to work. people don't want their party -- republicans don't want hillary clinton elected. >> no one wants their party torn apart by principles. >> real issue, i'm a tactics. i do this for a living. >> you're a strategist. >> i look at this and what i see is 40 negative ads. i see them on the web tomorrow morning if somebody wants to. i see them in iowa and a target of those populations to make sure he doesn't get out of there ali alive. >> it's a tall order for the republicans right now.
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i have to tell you, there are a lot of winners in this thing. and i think each of the candidates, personally, i think each can claim a victory in parts, in shades and degrees, but overall, we'll talk about the ones who stood tallest and stepped forward the greatest distance. jedediah bila, hank sheinkopf and ed rollins are coming back in the broadcast to deliver all of those conclusions. thanks. more debate analysis. trump may be the front-runner, but other candidates such as senator marco rubio staking out some pretty strong positions as well. >> the first thing we need to do is even out the tax code for small businesses so that we lower their tax rate to 25% as we need to lower it for all businesses. we need to have a regulatory budget in america limiting the amount of regulations on your economy and repeal to replace obama care and repeal higher
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debate, but donald trump taking time to target president obama's shortcomings as well. >> we have a president who doesn't have a clue. i would say he's incompetent, but i don't want to do that, because that's not nice. [ laughter ] >> some other nondebate news to share with you. russia has carried out one of the most sophisticated cyber
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attacks on the pentagon. russian hackers attacking the unclassified e-mail system for the joint chiefs of staff. that carried out two weeks ago. a system used by some 4,000 department of defense employees. this is not the first cyber attack originating. defense secretary ash carter revealed an unclassified pentagon network was attacked and accessed earlier in the year. joining me now, fox news military analyst, general jack cain. this is getting tire some, is it not? we watched choina carry out the cyber attacks. now the pentagon suffering two instances of attacks. once we assume the first originating in china, the second now in russia. and this administration says
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they're going to respond, but they haven't. what do you make of it? >> well, it is serious. what's really been taking place here when you try to put it in perspective like you're suggesting here is china and russia, russia criminality, about 50% of their cyber attacks, china is stealing intellectual property to enhance themselves. but both of these countries are getting more bold. they're moving in on the united states government itself and even the united states military. the fact is, russia has the second best cyber offensive capability in the world. the united states obviously being number one. they've penetrated, the only country that ever penetrated our classified military network. russians have done that a number of years ago. >> as you listen to those presidential, the gop presidential debates, were you heartened by the positions and the postures of those candidates? >> i felt good about a couple
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things. certainly, one is they all recognize that the united states military capabilities are being dramatically reduced. every single person was given the opportunity to speak about it and some actually volunteered to speak about it when they didn't have the question put to them. they know we've got to do something about it. increasing our military capability to bring us back to the strength we have was something that resonated with me. the iran deal, uniformity that this is not the right direction to go and certainly senator schumer coming out and under scoring that himself as a few hur leader of the democratic party in the senate and making that kind of a statement is certainly under scores how serious a problem we have with this deal. >> listen, if you will, to senator ted cruz as he addressed exactly these issues. >> you just mentioned the iranian general the head of the force, he's directly responsible
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for the murder of over 500 american servicemen in iraq and part of this iranian deal was lifting the international sanctions on general suleman i. the day that the general flew back to moscow from iran, was the day that russia used cyber warfare against the joint chiefs. we need a new commander in chief that will stand up to our enemies and have credibility. it is worth emphasizing that iran released our hostages in 1981 the day ronald reagan was sworn into office. >> couldn't have been more vivid in making that point, could he, general? >> he's absolutely right on. for our viewers to understand, general kassim suleman i heads the force for specially funded. does not report to anybody else in the military except the supreme leader. he runs all the proxy wars
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they're fighting, lebanon, syria, iraq. as senator cruz pointed out, he's responsible for killing americans in iraq, considerably more than that. most people estimate closer to 1500 that have been responsible. >> general -- >> this is an incredible leader and we removed the sanctions against him. that's extraordinary. >> in its overall, overarching deal, much much which the united states representatives and officials haven't seen, he was personally named and removed from the list. general jack keane, always good to talk to you. >> good talking to you, lou. >> good talking to you, jack, thanks. trying to define a winner for the debate. wisconsin governor scott walker doing very well. talking strong on immigration
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the main news at this hour, the first primetime republican debate of the 2016 cycle wrapping up just a short time ago. lots of animated, spirited, passionate debate and a lot of discussion on the issues. we'll examine the winners and the losers here in just a moment and show you more of the highlights. in other news tonight, a huge setback for president obama as two leading democrats have parted company with the white house rejecting the president's nuclear deal with iran. senator chuck schumer an the ranking democrat on the house foreign affairs committee, elliott engel saying they will vote no to the agreement and russia successfully carrying out a sophisticated cyber attack against the pentagon. the russian hackers were able to
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gain access to the computers and the offices of the joint chiefs of staff. it happened two weeks ago. 4,000 d.o.d. accounts affected. the pentagon just acknowledging the effect of that attack and its occurrence today. jeb bush defended himself against criticism of his immigration policy in tonight's debate. >> and there should be a pass to earn legal status for those that are here. not amnesty. earn legal status which means you pay a fine and do many things over an extended period of time. >> joining us tonight, mark them he can, columnist for the cleveland plain dealer and cleveland.com. and david bosse, president of citizens united. a leading conservative and great to have you both with us. mark, let me ask you. in cleveland, i thought frankly governor kasich, he did quite a job. what were your impressions? >> he's played it smart from the
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beginning, getting in late in the race just in time to get himself in. he's the new guy. he introduced himself. made the point twice about his father being a mailman. that's an issue, obviously, we've heard a lot about in ohio. he need today hammer a few points about the budget in ohio and the job growth here and of course, there are arguments that could be made that ohio still drags -- >> how daye think he did? >> i think he did well. he played it fine. he'll be happy with his performance. we saw them -- his campaign tweeting out this was a success. >> when a campaign think their candidate has done well -- >> i know. >> david, who do you think did best in tonight's debate? >> you know, there was a lot of interesting lines. i thought ted cruz did a really good job. i think marco rubio had a couple of interesting lines. scott walker probably had the line of the evening where he talked about the russians
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knowing more about hillary's e-mails than we do. i think there was a lot of winners. donald trump, look, i think he held his own. i don't know what the scuttlebutt is yet. but i think he held his own. he's not somebody who has experience on a stage like that. >> forget the experience in a debate. i don't know about you guys. but to me it looked like he wasn't used to having a two-way conversation. he's more of a transmitter than a receiver. what do you think, mark? >> lou, we got a nice treat with the chris christie and rand paul exchange there. i thid of reinforced that christie personality that some voters have found appealing, which is why he's in this race. i don't think anybody lost any ground. i think trump comes closest to being trump. but as you saw in your focus groups on fox, people were turned off a little bit by the sort of strident approach and language he took, both with the host and with some of the
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candidates. >> david, i want to ask you first and then mark you. how much trouble, how much of a problem is the fact that he would not say he would support the republican nominee no matter who? >> look, i think that that is an issue that's big inside the beltway. i think republican primary voters want everyone to come together at the end of the day. but i think they're open to what donald trump, his message. that is speaking truth to power. i think he's going to over time say that he's learning to respect these men. that's what he was saying. i need to understand who is going to be the nominee. he's not a knee-jerk politician. that's what he was trying to tell the american people. >> i think we would have been surprised if he had willingly -- >> you're right. that would have been a headline. >> i think we would have said he was pandering maybe about it. >> will he play in ohio, mark?
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>> no. i don't think he will. having covered several presidential campaigns, gubernatorial and senate campaigns in ohio, ohio is really diverse, often referred to as five ohios. you have folks in the foothills of appalachia in southeastern ohio that you might see a sign that says vote the bible. they're working class, the conservative and the values, the northern part. a lot of republicans here, a huge democratic poll. he's not going to be a reagan democrat which you find in youngstown, ohio. shooting towards toledo to the west. >> how about carly fiorina, guys, carly fiorina, judged by social media, whether on facebook or twitter, she -- and in search on google, i mean, she took it away, it appears, in the early debate. david? >> oh, she was clearly the star of that first debate by the
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trends of what's going on, on social media and by the television coverage. she clearly showed her intellect, clearly just an articulate, intelligent, powerful woman who i really think is the big winner from the early debate, no question about that. >> mark, does she play in ohio? >> people will have to get to know her. i think part of the appeal and the spike in interest in her we saw as a result of the early debate is the fact that people don't know her, haven't seen her and it was someone different and new. that will mellow out over time. i think ohio voters need to know her more. >> we're out of time. but i got to ask you both if you would quickly, i said at the top of this broadcast that i think this is the most intelligent, substantive, compelling, even entertaining debate i've ever seen in my career. weigh in on it, david, very quickly if um. >> i was thinking you were going
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to ask who the winners and losers were. the losers were hard to pick because everybody did fairly well. and there was no clear loser. i think -- >> one of the best debates you've ever seen? >> it may have been. >> not for me. entertainingwise, it did. it did lack the specifics in substance and you were getting a lot of platitudes, cliches and they need to dig deeper. to really connect with voters on job issues, as you saw in your fox polls, racial issues, there are things they have to hammer >> it's a marathon, not a sprint. >> the marathon is under way, gentlemen. thank you so much. david bossie and mark naymik. thank you very much. not just about what the candidates said but their body language as well. we'll bring in an expert on that issue and was this the one moment everyone will be talking about tomorrow morning? take it away. >> you call woman you don't like
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scott walker talking about jobs. as he did, he touted his record as governor of wisconsin. >> i think most of us in america understand that people, not the government creates jobs and one of the best things to do is get government out of the way, repeal obama care, rein in the regulations and get people the education and skills they need to succeed and lower the tax rate and reform the tax bill. that's what i'll do as president like i did in wisconsin. >> did it in 21 seconds. joining us now to evaluate the candidates' body language in the debate, jeanine driver, president of the body language institute. jeanine, great to have you with us. she's also author of "you can't lie to me." >> yeah. >> i would like to get your sense as to, is there one candidate who made an egregious mistake in the way he or she held their body or their head or focused their attention? >> i think the biggest mistake i
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saw with a couple of the candidates tonight were shoulder shrugs. a shoulder shrug is uncertainty and that will kill your message. even if you're uncertain about your answer, the last thing you want is an expert like me saying this person is uncertain. we want certainty. especially the republicans are saying there's too much uncertainty. the last thing you want to do is shoulder shrug. >> i'm sorry. go ahead. >> i was going to say, we saw it with scott walker. i got to say mike huckabee was strong, donald trump was strong. we saw a lot of shoulder shrugs with ron paul tonight and bush, i felt, really laid flat today. he played out flat. he disappeared off the screen. his body language, there was very little, not a lot of oomph with him. we saw it with trump and mark rubio. normally what we see is pressure. when someone is making a point. >> you have to sit up a little tonight.
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>> that is connected to determining. it means these are the people that can increase pressure or resist pressure. sometimes that determining is what's pulling us in, right? >> as it makes all the sense in the world. donald trump, obviously you think he did very well, he was strong. i got a kick out of him a couple of times tonight because he did a shrug. he was kind of opening his hand wide and almost like saying, please, give me a break here. i love the way he talked, he puts his hand out like this. i've never seen that gesture. i don't know what it means. what does it mean? >> listen, donald trump has no problem chopping. he was the chopper. usually you see the thumb of power. america did this. i want to you listen and listen good. that's the combination. >> very good, gentleman anyone. >> this is the less aggressive this. donald trump has no problem doing this and chopping. like wait a minute, pose.
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this is what cops do. on the ground. fbi. this is what donald trump is a pro at and he was a pro here. his timing. he's able to adjust in the moment to moment timing of action, lou. he can in that moment, he's evaluatin evaluating, leaning forward. leaning to our side, rising and descending. he activates this evaluating and timing. this is why he doesn't have to memorize a bunch of answers. i'm coming and i'm being me. why? he's evaluating, weighing pros and cons. it happened for him in a moment to moment timing and action. we see this with donald trump, quick gestures. he'll have the speed to his gestures. so that's him living in the moment. the interesting thing on trump, you'll see him too, he'll lean forward or back and that's connected with the future. this is anticipating. we have a future here. now, donald trump, you know, when he was asked, it was interesting, when he was asked about, is he pro-life or
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pro-choice, it's the one time i felt donald trump became a little weak. it's something we don't see often with him. he held the microphone here. what is his belief? this indicated to me an increase in anxiety. i don't know what the catalyst is, lou. but it was the one time where he changed his behavior for sure. he was kind of rattled. when he was asked about his companies going bankrupt, we see donald trump's chin going up. the people who don't like obama, they say he's arrogant. it's this move. he was loving that question, he was prepared for that question. it's as if he looked down his nose at us. >> absolutely. janine thank you for that terrific analysis. we have about ten seconds. we're a little over actually. that little exchange, that was a big exchange between governor christie and senator paul in which they went at it, any thoughts on that? did that serve them well? at least in terms of body language and what they were
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expressing to the audience. >> listen, chris christie is going to be seen as more likeable here. chris christie, even though he can be a pit bull, right, he lean toss his right a little bit. this is evaluating. look at him. he's leaning right now to the right. we see this lean. them lean to the left. this is evaluating right then and there. it's creating a a system. what's important what are the priorities. chris christie, very interesting, he has no trouble saying here are the priorities. he comes across as more likeable. >> janine, thank you so much. we appreciate it. terrific analysis. thanks a lot. >> thanks, lou. i appreciate it. >> you bet. up next, we'll tell you who social media says won tonight's debate and what the top issue was, again, according to folks all over the country on facebook, on twitter, on everything. more highlights like this one which david bossie here a moment ago called the line of the night.
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can a a subconscious. mind? a knack for predicting the future. reflexes faster than the speed of thought. can a business have a spirit? can a business have a soul? can a business be...alive? we're back with our panel outnumbered co-host jedediah bila, republican strategist ed rollins and hank sheinkopf.
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welcome back guys. >> thanks. >> jedediah, let's start with you. i want a sense, how good the debate was in your estimation and what you expect as a result. >> i thought it was a great debate. >> for the candidates. >> really challenging questions. it forced them to explain their stand on key issues. they had to get specific, they were forced to get specific, which is what i was hoping for. if they didn't get specific, which i think donald trump could have used more specifics, i think weaknesses were exposed. this brought marco rubio to the forefront again. he produces skills. i was waiting for him to shine again. this is his opportunity to do so. i think he grabbed that opportunity. earlier in the nigh we saw carly fiorina emerge. i would love to see fiorina, rubio, let them duke it out on stage. it exposes a strong field and then we have hillary clinton over here, not so strong. >> don't forget about bernie sanders. >> i'm not worried about bernie sanders. >> i don't think anybody got
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hurt. i think bush may not have been as strong as he would have liked. i think walker wasn't as strong as he might have liked. i agree with you, rubio was the winner of the night. i think trump in the first half hour reinforced the anti-ent tip at this. he stumbled a bit when he was explaining his bankruptcies. >> i thought he did a terrific job with that. >> in the beginning. >> that's what i meant in the beginning. >> i think by the end, getting hillary to come to the wedding diminished it. christie, he started to show leadership stuff we saw earlier. i think that little spat did it. i don't think ben carson lived up to the expectation. was a very articulate and brilliant man. >> you didn't like the rand paul/christie exchange. >> the last thing he wanted to do is look like a bully. there were interesting points they could have made.
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but christie when it came down to the crunch, he wanted to smack him. >> the thing of that exchange, both men, i think you could judge to be right in the position they took. >> yeah. >> that's what's fascinating. points of view, however. one a prosecutor, one not. one a libertarian, one not. >> one a bully, one not. >> i think this is very important for america for different reasons. rubio got the shot to stand up and be who he is supposed to be. sounded cogent. he was prospective, not perspective. trump, still the gathering point for populous anger. but walker and others should have done better and should have been able to make themselves stand out were unable to do so. >> i want to share with the audience what we gleaned from social media. that is the number one issue in the debate, according to all of the chatter and the communication and social media, was immigration. and the number one name and search as well as social media
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was donald trump once again. >> sure. >> it's going to take a lot to knock him off, isn't it? >> yeah. i mean, i think his point about immigration and the reason we're talking about immigration has a lot to do with him. i think that's a fair point. i think he's served a purpose. i don't think he'll be the candidate but i think he's made them work harder and be more honest about where they stand on the issues. i give him a lot of credit. >> if he wasn't on the show, it wouldn't have been as interesting with the buildup and what have you. >> america, a lot of intake on the stage. >> americans like mavericks. he's the maverick of the moment. the question is will it last? >> it is fascinating. what a show it was. entertainment, education. like i said, i think it's the most, exposed more principles and position in a debate in my career. >> it's set the tone. every debate has to have the same kind of question.
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>> even for the democrats? >> good luck. >> the democrats are going to have a debate until the middle of october. >> i hope fox gets to do one. >> i'm sure they'll lead off with it. >> she won't even do an interview, let alone a debate. >> the whole world will be a different place. >> we hope a better place. let's keep our fingers crossed for that. jedediah bila, thank you for being here. ed rollins, hank sheinkopf thank you. time for a few comments. pauline commenting on facebook, trump is so right. he's the only one not afraid to say it like it is. >> malcolm tweeted. trump is dominating because he answers questions. >> trump is turning the gop debate into a sideshow. calling our leaders stupid is not statesman-like or presidential-like. but it's kind of like -- better not. that's it for us tonight. we thank you for being with us.
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we hope you enjoyed the debate and the analysis every bit as much as we did. ed rollins returning here with ann colter. >> mr. vice president if we don't act now it's going to be too late. >> there's a blurring between fiction and reality. because they have a political agenda. >> no new pipeline? >> no. actually this time, no. >> americans control and own their own energy. >> and recycle. >> i am so empowered. >> shut down sea world. >> are your whales being in prison here. should they be free? >> they are succeeding. >> this is

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