headquarters and his bracelets all over the place, 150 wholesale distributors around the country, they team up with good evening, everybody, i'm lb. hillary clinton has been spinning her e-mail scandal for months now and now she seems to have spun herself into a spiral from which she may not recover. as the justice department takes possession of her private e-mail server, she insists she did not send or receive communications that were classified at the time, as she put it. and for the first time mrs. clinton is not the front runner in any primary or caucus state. the latest, she's now running behind senator bernie sanders in new hampshire, but the republican front runner remains unchanged, donald trump still leading in the polls and he is

heading next to new hampshire working to turn those poll numbers into votes. donald trump our special guest had this evening. conservative commentator and beth selling author ann koulter joins us as well, we will be talking of course about the 2016 presidential race, her thoughts on hillary clinton, clinton's fate and my interview with donald trump. we take up all the issues. our top story tonight new calls in congress for a full criminal investigation of hillary clinton and her e-mail server. powerful house judiciary committee darryl isis saying tonight the only way forward is a criminal investigation, the fbi now has her server and three thumb drives containing tens of thousands of e-mails, some of which it turns out are top secret. the inspector general for the intelligence community has also asked the state department to turn over those 30,000 e-mails could it can conduct an independent review of hair contents. the state department is refusing

to cooperate with the request, it says it needs more time to go through the e-mails. a state department spokesman today defended their actions and the clintons. >> where we are at in this right now this process is we're working with the director of national intelligence to resolve whether am in fact it this material is actually classified. it's also important i think to emphasize that -- that these e-mails were not marked as classified at the time they were sent. >> that remains very much in dispute. sources tell fox news that the director of national intelligence, james clapper, is so concerned about the state department's refusal to turn over those e-mails, its continued stonewalling that he is ready to personally step in if that stonewalling goes on. >> my first guest tonight is leading the polls out of iowa and new hampshire, joining us now on the phone donald trump, the billionaire rel date mogul republican shall candidate and

front runner in the 2016 race. donald, good to have you with us. let's turn first to the polls. these polls showing you in the lead, but weakening somewhat. your reaction to them. >> well, i think they're really good. i wasn't leading in iowa a month ago and now i'm leading and that was an honor because, you know, i've gone actually up in iowa, i think i was 10 and now i'm 17. in new hampshire we've been doing really great from day one we've been doing great there. there are some people that are sort of coming up a little bit behind, but i think the relationship i have in iowa, new hampshire, south carolina, even nationwide, i mean, the nationwide polls have been incredible. so we're very happy. your friendly competitor cnn, a place you know very well they came out with one today where i was at 22 in iowa and leading by a very wide margin. i'm honored by the polls i must tell you. >> i think you have actually shown a lot of keof kept partic

who you are and what you are capable of. i also want to turn to a number of policy statements you have made. as of today china with the second valuation in two days you said that the actions of china and the peoples bank of china here are devastating american workers. expand on that thought, if you would. >> well, the currency devaluation that china has been playing this game for a long time and we have never had a president or a politician or group that even understands what they're doing. they're brilliant people that know there has never been -- and you know this very well from years of covering this kind of stuff -- there has they ever been anybody that devalued better than china. what they are doing -- they are a major abuser of this country and what they have ton is the biggest devaluation that they have had in two decades, which is hard to believe. they'ring doing it because they feel that obama is either not watching the ship, incompetent,

for whatever reason they it did it and people were shocked at the size of it. what it means is they're going to take more jobs and po more money out of the united states. it's as simple as that. it's impossible for the united states companies, for companies within the united states to compete with this kind of currency devaluation. it's a serious problem and we do nothing about it. >> we do nothing about it as you say and president obama, his treasury secretary, the federal reserve, actually none of them willing to say that this is direct intervention by the chinese government and the currency marketplace and that it is manipulation of the juan, their krensy. by the way, that goes back to, as you know, president george w. bush who was also. >> that's true. >> -- extremely reluctant to even raise a moment's caution with the chinese. the middle class in this country get kant attention by the republican party. the republican party in too many homes across had country is

considered to be the party of business business and to have sold out basically to the business round table and the middle class. you're talking about families, you're talking about our middle class. that is almost an anti-establish m posture to take. are you going to carry that theme throughout your entire campaign? >> well, to me it's very important. i don't worry so much about the rich guys, you know many of the rich guys and they are doing just fine and frankly they are doing maybe better hand they should be doing, you know, they get lucky and pick a stock and all of a sudden they make tens of millions of dollars if they an to be running a hedge fund. it's the middle class that is absolutely getting -- i mean, in a certain way there is no middle class right now, we are losing our middle class. we were built on the middle class as a country and i will bring that back and we will bring it back roaring back. we have to give incentives, we have to bring jobs back. the jobs are going to china, to mexico. i look at -- i was in los angeles two weeks ago, i looked at these massive ships, lou,

coming into los angeles and the number of cars coming in from japan, it's just staggering to see these boats. i have never seen anything like it and just pouring off the boats, the ships. we have to bring -- we have to make the cars here. mexico is building right now they're building ford a $2.5 billion car plant, manufacturing plant, in mexico. i want it built here. it doesn't help us. i went to the wharton school of finance, i can tell you, it doesn't help us. they don't pay tax, they don't pay max, they make the cars and bring them over the border we get nothing out of it except closed factories and closed manufacturing plants. we're going to change that around i will tell you. one of the people that you respect is carl icon, i'm going to have dinner with him right now, he wants to get developed. you know if i say, carl, you take over it, you take china, you take maybe china and japan,

we can sit back and just watch, he will be fine. you understand. >> a formidable -- i have to tell you i wouldn't mind imagining what that conversation would sound like. >> that would be a beauty. we could make a movie out of that one. >> turning to foreign policy, the islamic state. this is a president who said he would degrade and destroy the state, now there are a handful of sorties being married out, newly taebd relations with turkey permitting us to go fly from their basis. what would a donald trump presidency do about the islamic state? where would you come down on russia and its current aggressive is posture particularly in eastern europe? >> well, as far as isis is concerned, i would hit them so hard at their source of wealth, which is largely the oil. now, you know i r -- they also get a lot of money from saudi arabia, from iran, all over the place but a major source of wealth is the oil and i would

hit that oil so hard. you know the he can i don't know folks, they can build it very quickly, i have seen this happen, but i would hit them at the wealth because you would see them start to wither. as far as -- and i would to it fast and hard. as you know, i was never had in favor of going in. i told you years ago, going into iraq was a huge mistake because you are going to destabilize the whole middle east. i am the only one. they have major articles in 2004 in reuters, in fact, in july of 2004 and i am the only one that's running that is of this. bush made the big mayes mistake he didn't know if it was a good thing or bad thing. as far as when you think of the ukraine, it's at a point -- we have to rebuild our own country. if germany and the folks from europe aren't going to take a more active role, why are we leading every charge, whether it's ukraine -- everything we

do, iraq, who is taking -- we spent all of that money, china is taking much of the oil out of the iraq. they didn't spend ten kebts, we spend $2 trillion thousands of lives, wounded warriors who i love all over the place and china goes this and starts taking the oil out of there. same thing with afghanistan. chinaen o the other side of the mountain you have china taking all the minerals out in the meantime we spent fortunes and lives and everything else. with the ukraine, we're leading the charge, we are always leading the charge. why isn't germany -- we will be with them. you know the old expression, go ahead, we will be right behind you. they are the ones that are affected by this much more so than we are, why aren't they taking the lead instead of us always. we're run by people that don't know what they're doing. >> and on the issue of illegal immigration, you've been very straightforward, you want to build a wall, i think as you put it maybe i'm not quoting you precisely but a big glorious

door in the middle of it which i inferred was a metaphor to suggest you would bring people into this country. >> legally. right, legally. >> absolutely. there are a host of issues about which there's some curiosity about where you really stand, so-called wedge issues. social issues. i'd like to go through just four of them very quickly. >> okay. >> let's start with baier, repeal it, amend it. >> totally. no. no. repeal t replace it with something much better. obama care is going to be the death of the country. it really doesn't can i can in -- you know this, but post people don't -- it doesn't really kick in until '16 and obama is going to be probably playing at dorrall at that time, playing golf at dorrall and whoever is president is going to have one hell of a time. it's too expensive, the premiums are going through the roof, they're raising 45, 50, 60%.

so it doesn't work, it's too expensive for both sides and we have to change it. so i want to repeal and replace it and we will do it with something great. we have to take down the artificial lines, we have to get competition going. it can be a great form of insurance and much less hundred. >> broadly the issue of abortion, and more specifically planned parenthood. as you know some controversy around the way in which you articulated your position. clearly on planned parenthood your view. >> i'm totally against it as long as they have abortion. if it's an abortion clinic in any way, shape or form i'm against, as you know i'm pro life. i'm just against it. now, with that being said if that can be separated out and i mean literally i would not give as long as they are doing abortions. they do work -- they do other work which is they helpful in terms of women's health issues and that's good stuff. the problem is i will not be able at all to get over the

issue of planned parenthood as long as they're providing abortions and that's what they're doing and they're doing it pretty readily and it's not good. i would absolutely defund. they have to get over that issue. that's a big problem for me. >> gay marriage. >> gay marriage, well, i wanted to see the states decide and i wanted very strongly to see that and the court so ruled. if something can happen, most people think it can't at this point, but i would have loved to have seen the states make the decision, lou, and let it be that way. the court took it all the way and came down with a decision. if anything can happen i'm all for it, but right now that decision has been made. >> and the second amendment, gun control. >> totally in favor of second amendment. i am a big second amendment person. my sons are -- and so am i -- member of the nra, but my sons have been there for years and they are great shots, great harks man and bit believer. i'm a big beaver in the second amendment. >> trump, it's always good to talk with you and i appreciate

your time. come back soon as we try to better understand your policies and positions. we enjoy talking with you. i hope the same can be said from your side. >> well, i love your show and i watch it all the time and i appreciate it, lou. i also know that you've been very nice to me, even if i'm wrong on something you've been nice. that's even better, right? >> i'm the nicest guy you are going to see on television. >> you are a great guy actually and i appreciate it very much, lou. >> thank you. donald trump. good to talk with you. >> thank you. >> much more ahead, stay with us. we're coming right back. did i mention ann coulter? she's going to be with us, too.

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back with us now, political commentator, syndicated columnist ann coulter, her latest book "adios america." the trump shows him -- >> killing. >> he's doing exactly that. but we're seeing governor walker, we're seeing john kasich, ted cruz, there are a

group of people starting to huddle up there and create truly a top tier. is he going to be able to maintain this position in your judgment in a si significant -- with a significant lead? >> well, the ones you mentioned, huddling in the top, really are kind of huddling at the bottom of the top tier. it's amazing what trump is doing in the polls, it is not to be discounted. i keep seeing people say on tv, oh, well, at this point in other election s howard deen was winning. >> it's the thing people are saying when it's not their candidate at the top. >> i looked it up and two years before an election, before anyone has announced, yes, there are wild card candidates. once candidates have announced these polls are totally meaningful. they may not pan out, but do not poo poo these polls. i went back and looked before the 2012 election to see what polls and when was herman cane

and michele bachmann -- it would be one tiny little straw poll and every one was excited because romney was losing one tiny straw poll of only republican leaders in iowa, for example. cane i think did it in florida. this is very impressive and i think there is absolutely no we that it is because of immigration, it is not just that he is straight talk. if it were straight talk chris christie would be at the top, john mccain would be at the top. >> what is your feeling of chris christie getting into it with rand paul is it? by the way, donald trump saying today after rand paul insulted him again it's sort of what people do in the consumer product business, whoever the leader is, that's the one everyone else goes after and once -- wants them to take notice. >> that's true, but another thing they do -- >> but anyway -- >> you look at the leader and you imitate them. >> right. >> imitate him, republicans. they won't. >> trump said -- had this is

worth me finishing, i assure you -- said he has had it up to here -- i thought it was an interesting -- >> that is funny. >> with rand paul. >> man, he has good insults. >> so as we watch this, i mean, he is not -- everyone is trying -- not everyone, but nearly every candidate is trying to insult him so they can get his notice so he can put their name out there. i think he is being more jaw can dishes in the way he respond. >> it's not just that it's so that he can get the donor pun. we are seeing with trump a separation of the mice and the men here. it is immigration, republicans have refused to respond to voters as have democrats on the burning hatred of immigration in this country. trump comes along and does it and the other thing you do when one product is ahead is you imitate the iphone, you imitate a late night tv show. they are controlled by the big donors and that is obvious to people on the issue of immigration.

>> i have to tell you i hesitate to think, though, about having a wheeled of billionaires who are beholden to no one. >> no, just say what the voters want. >> that disturbs me. >> but they won't. >> i want to turn quickly to bernie sanders. senator sanders is now ahead in new hampshire. she is not ahead in a caucus state or early primary state. that's got to be -- they've got to be going nuts over this there at the campaign headquarters. >> well, i wish box news would go a little easier on hillary clinton she is the one we want to run against. could you guys just back off? i peel like i'm -- >> we barrel mention this -- >> we used to say, oh, the am next president isn't going to be a guy named barack hussein obama. the next president could be bernie sanders if you people keep this up. >> i respect your judgment but we are kind of beholden to inform our audience when a former secretary of state is accused of sending top secret

e-mails through her private -- into it doesn't have to lead the news. you don't have to keep chattering about it. we love hillary. she is a terrible candidate. i want donald trump running against hillary. >> there you have heard it from ann coulter herself. >> thank you. >> up next, a few thoughts on the obama administration officials missing in action on a day that the world's biggest global competitor shocked the world by dee val ewing its krens kree.

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a few thoughts if i may on the latest from china. china today announced that it was devaluing its currency causing the juan's biggest one day loss in two decades a devaluation of 1.9%. global markets plunged on the news, wall street caught flatfooted. most traders had accepted the expressed pru of the peoples

bank of china that there was no plan on the part of china to dee wall u the juan, but if wall street was surprised the obama administration was shocked and the white house could only squeak out a tepid almost trembling response to the china move. the treasury department released a statement some 16 hours after the development saying it's war too early to judge the implications of the chinese devaluation. i can tell you here tonight poppycock. we know exactly what most of those implications are. the state department response equally tepid and inn accept bid, two words i seldom use so closely together. >> we have seen them take some -- what we believe are positive economic reforms. we want to see continued progress, but i'm going to refer to treasury, i'm not going to speak to the broader issue. >> to help the boys and girls at state and treasury department out a devaluation is by definition intervention and government intervention in a

market as in this instance the currency market is in the least favorable connotation manipulative. china's move comes just weeks before president obama will be meeting with client niece president pinning in washington. today's yawn devaluation adding to the tensions with the chinese following their territorial claims in the south china seas, their cyber attacks against the federal government to which there has been no response by this government, this administration. but china's leaders are anured to decades long american protests about their currency manipulation. to support its manufacturing industry and mercantilist trade policies at the expense of american jobs and our middle class. the obama administration blocked efforts, has done so several times to punish china for that manipulation, referring to ignore it all together. earlier this year they threatened to veto even fast

track trade legislation over currency manipulation language against the client niece. morgan stanley is now warning that a weaker juan and stronger particular could cause china's yofrts to rise and margins of its trading partners to drop. that's us. all of this comes as president obama pushes his has sieve trade deal, the trans-pacific partnership a deal that already threatens to hurt american jobs and lower wages which obviously china fears as well and the chinese as a result felt no need to give notice to us or any of our european trading partners. or even entertain the idea of preserving anything resembling a premarket in the yuan. where is treasury secretary jack lew when you need them? if fed chair janet, yellen sp? don't know. we can presume they are

monitoring the situation and telling our president all about t we know where he is, thank goodness, he is back in martha's vineyard. now our quotation of the evening this one from scott adams, the creator of the cartoon strip dilbert. there is no one outside our reach for wisdom. and tonight it's scott adams. he said, be careful that what you write does not offend anybody or cause problems with the company. the safest approach is to remove all useful information. which appears to be the option chosen by the entire obama administration when it comes to china or for that matter for russia or the islamic state or iran. you get the idea. we're coming right back with more useful information. stay with us. >> up next, republican presidential candidate governor scott walker will join us. nationally he is in the top three of republican hopefuls, number two right now in iowa. how does he land to get to

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donald trump maintaining also his lead over the republican field in iowa after last week's debate the front runner garnering a 19% level of sore in iowa. karly fiorina surging to fourth place with 10% according to the latest ppp poll. my next guest is tied for second place in this latest poll and

joining us now republican presidential candidate, the governor of wisconsin, scott walker. good to have you with us. you've got to be awfully pleased with where you are in had these polls, not only these, but a national set of polls, you are running strong. >> yeah, we are. we're less than a month in, we announced on july 13th, so just a few weeks into the election we're feeling good. i think part of it hopefully is because people have seen that while we've got a great group of republicans, in fact, fox did a nice job of highlighting not only in the late debate but the early debate the incredible group of republicans running. hope people see what makes me unique is i fight, i win, had not just winning five times in a race for governor in a blue state, we fight and win and get results and to it without compromising our principles. >> i think a lot of people hear you say that, winning three elections in four years and some people scratch their heads do do not follow politics closely, but

you effectively -- you were the first governor to survive a recall election in this country and did to against what many considered to be outrageous odds and being seriously disadvantaged. that was a race that some saw as a race between yourself and unions and you are talking about working men and women, every day on the campaign trail. i have to tell you i am heartened to hear a republican candidate talking about working men and women and their families. are you getting good feedback on that? is it having an effect, your strategy? >> absolutely. it effects everything that we do. it's part of the reason why i won those three elections. we wom not only with republican votes but 11, almost 12 point margin and a lot of blue crass families like the fact that we helped the private sector, the people, not the government create more jobs.

we put more money back in the people's pockets, we lowered property taxes, income taxes, reformed mention, helped improve manufacturing in our state, did things that help every day american workers in the state of wisconsin, i believe we can do that for america. when we talk about big issues like immigration, everybody talks about securing the border, we have to do that, i do not believe in amnesty, but when i talk about issues like that i talk about giving priority when it comes to legal immigration, giving priority to american working families and their wages in way hall improve the american economy. everything we do it talks about making sure how we help that typical family put more of their money back in their own pockets and find a better way to raise their families in this great country into it's a stunning place that the republican party has arrived at where many people, broadly the voting be public, believe that the republican party is the party of big business. multi-nash malls who are begging illegal immigrants to cross that border, pushing back from k

street against congress in the senate, any voice that says we've got to worry about the quality of life for american citizens and their education. it's a peculiar mindset and strange place for the republican party to be in the public view. do you agree with me or do you want to see that view on the part of the republican party if you are to be carrying that nomination for 2016? >> well, certainly there are o some in washington who might have said that on the republican bill but that's why i'm so eager to talk about hillary clinton because i think the example you gave with a great contrast. hillary clinton believes in the top down government is best approach, i believe in the approach that says we are going to build the economy from the bottom up in a way that's new and fresh and says we don't want

big government, big unions. we are not going to side with big business, we are going to side with every day americans. as long as you go out and don't violate the health and safety of your neighbor, go out and start your own career, build your own business, live your own life. that's freedom, the freedom that's the cornerstone of the american dream. we want to help everyone live their american dream, helping them get the education and skills they need and careers that will pay far more than the minimum wage. it's a great country and we are a great country, we just need to start acting like this it again. >> governor, well said. thanks for going being here. scott walker. a daredevil risking his life in a death defying stunt 900 feet had in the air. he is called a slack liner, the word hardly makes sense until you realize that's a slack line that he is bouncing around on. sprintser see brooke traversing a slack line 200 feet long

between cliffs in british columbia, the daredevil losing his balance a number of times but fortunately he recovered in time and finished his stunt. in so doing set a new world record. now, that's a world record, i think it's not worth having, but congratulations to him nonetheless. a lot of courage and ability. a drone photographer learning a levin about flying too close to some birds. a wedge detailed eagle coming face-to-face with a drone in australia. take that. the eagle suffered no injury in the impact using its at that loans to tear the drone to pieces out of the sky. the drone, however, required a number of repairs, we're told it was then able to fly again. the eagle is waiting. violence, shooting, looting return to ferguson, missouri. the city is out of control. what should community leaders do? milwaukee county sheriff david clark with us tonight. ♪

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quite a different tone were the attorney general that she took earlier. your thoughts. >> bravo for attorney general lindsay lohan, a lot better than we heard from her predecessor. it is this is a return of the scene of the big lie from this phoney movementer, this this black lives matter movement. ns where it this false narrative started. there's nothing to commemorate or celebrate in ferguson, missouri. this is in the selma, alabama in the 1960s, this is not montgomery, alabama. mic brown is not a civil rights movement. this is an insult to the civil rights movement. i'm glad to see that the county executive declared a state of emergency early. i hope that they have a good plan, i hope that they have the proper resources so that when am i looting starts, think criminal activity it, the rioting starts it will be crushed and i mean crushed because you have to send a message on behalf of the good

law abiding people of ferguson, missouri, the business owners that you are going to protect life and property and going to react quickly. that's what needs to happen here. >> and what has happened, sheriff, is that the police department has been pulled back from the front lines. the st. louis county law enforcement police department is moving forward to take up all of that -- that role. again, it is a de facto statement that the police department is the problem not the young demonstrators, agitators and protesters, some of whom surely come from the community and are there in good faith. >> whether it's the st. louis county police or the ferguson police, look, these anti-cop individuals, these cop haters they see one thing, they see a uniform, they see a badge and that's all they see, it doesn't matter what agency or municipality it comes from. that's just the way they feel about law enforcement in general. look, this war on police has

been devastating for these major urban senters it, not just ferguson, baltimore, chicago, new york, my hometown milwaukee where violent crime and homicides are off the charts. >> they're out of control right now. >> right. a bee league erred american law enforcement officer right now is hesitant in terms of self-initial rated policing and the criminal element has seized the day in many of these cities. the good law abiding people of these communities, the overwhelming amount of law abiding people are paying for this with their lives. this movement should have gone to ferguson to do one thing, they should have gone to apologize to the good people of ferguson, apologize to the police department and maybe held a fundraising for darren wilson to help him put his life back together. >> it is -- i was going to say interesting. it's a heck of a lot more than that. but it is notable the number of politicians who haven't got the

guts to say precisely what you have said before it this kind of violence and this continuation of tragedy in ferguson because nothing in the facts suggest any support for some is of the noble words that should be applying to any effort like this to commemorate a one year anniversary. least of all in the life of michael brown. why is everyone so scared to death, our elected officials, to talk straight, honestly and forthrightly and deal with these issues and actually seek resolution? >> because it's more politically expedient to score cheap political points at the expense of the american law enforcement officer. look, they know the law enforcement officer doesn't have a voice in this thing. all right? they just put on the uniform, go to work every day, keep their head down as it relates to the politics of it and they don't have the backing of the political class right now. i've heard some of the candidates running for president

pander to this movement as well and i find it sickening. i sat up will and listened to martin o'malley first say all lives matter, which is true and then was shouted town and came back and apologized for saying all lives matter. he meant to say black lives matter. that's the kind of pandering that you see right now. >> we should give credit where it's due, martin o'malley, democrat, running for president actually apology for saying all lives matter in this country. that's where we are. sheriff, it's always good to talk to you. >> state of things. my pleasure, lou. >> it's astounding. thanks for about with us. american overseas the targets of a new wave of terrorism, the u.s. consulate in turkey attacked. two leading experts on national security, clifford mai and kt mcfarland with us here next. ♪ i built my business with passion. but i keep it growing by making every dollar count.

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joining me now fox news national security analyst kt mcfarland, foundation for defense of democracies president clifford may. let's start with the taliban right now in afghanistan, kt, turning to you first. what's going on? i thought we had negotiations -- negotiations underway, all was well. >> no. negotiations aren't underway and all is not well. afghanistan sadly now finally has a good president, but it's too little too late. the civil war in afghanistan has

begun and there is nothing that is going to stop it. the united states is there but it's not going to prevent the return of the taliban. >> the taliban returning, actually again, de facto something that was accepted by this administration if in leaving afghanistan, right, cliff? >> yes, that's right. the taliban has never been defeated. fact, i would say we have not defeated any of the jihadist or hill tant islamic groups that we have been fighting over the years. sometimes they are not most in the news, but al qaeda has actually expanded it's oregon b -- orbit and isis we know thereabout that and the republican of iran is being he enriched and made more powerful by a agreement. omar who has been the head of the taliban has been dead for two years, did our intelligence not know about that? if they didn't how good is our intelligence in places like

afghanistan or iran. >> i don't know that we want to test that and come up with a strong answer because we might be very, very disappointed and deeply afraid of our enemy because apparently much of the taliban, kchl t, did not know that mullah omar was dead as well. >> the taliban is a second generation of jihadi fighters. the older generation, the osama bin laden generation, that first generation that was there when september 11th happened they have now moved on. there is a second and third generation that has followed that. what this shows is the enduring inability the united states and our allies has of defeating radical islam. they now are in second, third generation leadership. we say we've killed the senior leaders but there are more every day. >> it became a hip thing, did it not, for the geniuses in washington and the pentagon and intelligence community to talk about a generational war, it has bled over to the white house

where the president likes to talk in terms of generation nl warfare but as kt just said, it's generation after generation and somewhere this generation of americans forgot how to fight, how to kill and how to defeat an enemy. >> and how even to identify its enemy because we're fighting violent extremism in all its forms. if you don't understand the idea yol of your enemy, if you don't understand your enemy's goals, aims, what he thinks about you it's hard if you don't know your enemy to defeat your enemy. that's true of the taliban, isis, al qaeda and the islamic republican of iran. >> let's turn to the iranian nuclear deal. i want to get your views both of you quickly here. the president seems to have the support in the senate for his deal, he's moving forward and i just do not understand where everyone who is concerned about our allies in the middle east whether it is saudi arabia, it is kuwait, whether it is israel,

whomever, we're blindly moving ahead as if there is no judgment, discrete judgment outside the white house about whether or not this deal makes sense or not. >> well, the president has assumed as has kerry that iran is not going to cheat and by the time they get nuclear weapons they will have changed. if they're wrong we are in the worst of all possible words. >> why is isn't that clear to our congress and to our senate and particularly senate democrats in this country? >> well, i think that's interesting to see why senator schumer has said now in a had very thoughtful explanation why he is going to vote against this -- >> but he is not whipping votes. >> well, the problem is barack obama is going to be long gone, john kerry is going to be long gone by the time these people have to face the electorate again for having given iran nuclear weapons and allowing a nuclear arms race in the middle east. >> clifford may last word. >> i'm not convinced that we

won't see a fairly strong bipartisan majority in the congress, senate and house, disapproving of it had deal. not enough to kill it, but disapproving of it which means most americans and most of hair representatives will say what senator humor says, as kt it says it's a very good and thoughtful insight that this is a bad deal. i haven't given up on senator schumer at least trying to educate those of his colleagues that are educateable and there are those that haven't made the decision and had he may decide i can't approve this deal i know it's bad >> i take no comfort whatsoever in us being able to say at some point as a nuclear explosion takes place somewhere in the middle east, you know, we came so close, we could have overridden the president. >> yeah. >> if this is the best we can do, the best is not enough in my j umt. >> we are not the middle east because i see the ends are not meant to deliver nuclear war heads in the middle east they

are meant to deliver them to other couldn't ments. >> but they don't get them for another five to eight years you should take comfort in that. thanks so much for being here. kt and general jack keane as well, and senator mike lee. good night. >> objection. >> overruled. john: america's legal system is a mess. politicians pass too many laws. >> they can cite me or arrest me. john: also because prosecutors want to look tough on crime. >> big bad john. john: innocent people go to jail. >> they lie saying that all this evidence. john: some cops bully people into confessing crimes they didn't commit. >> the system failed us. john: their friends try to help them. >> it's over. >> i'm never getting out of here. john: and sometime they succeed. >> i'm now a free mess. john: the legal mess. that's our show tonight.