time right here in the united states. yes, sir. reporter: [inaudible] >> well, i like scott walker, always liked him, and i supported him. i liked his money, i liked his drive, and he actually came to my office six months ago, gave me a beautiful trophy, a plaque, and i thought that was very nice, and in the end, i think people see that what's happening in wisconsin, i love the people of wisconsin, i know people in wisconsin, have friends that live there. they're incredible people. but if you look at what's going on in wisconsin, i think people saw they have a $2.2 billion budget deficit. supposed to be a surplus of a bill. they're borrowing to a point nobody thought possible. they're ranked number 38 in the

states, which isn't exactly a good ranking, better than others that are running. frankly it's not a good ranking and they have a lot of problems and there's a lot of division in the state to put it mildly, and i think people, i do like scott, but i think people have seen what's happened in the state. and he was. when i first announced i was second and he was first, i was at 10% and he was at 22%. now i think i'm at 22 or 24% and he's at 6%. i think what's happened is people have really looked seriously at what's going on in wisconsin, and that has not been helpful to him. unfortunately. yes. yes, go ahead. reporter: [inaudible] >> i do read tweets. to a certain extent, i think that's right. you want me to say no? i retweet, i retweet for a reason, go ahead. reporter: [inaudible].

>> reporter: is there anywhere in the bible that you can relate to that you look up to. >> nobody they would compare to. it's such -- it's a great question. i love the bible. i love the bible, i'm a protestant, i'm a presbyterian, i went to sunday school. dr. norman vincent peel was my pastor. one of the great speakers i have seen. you hated to leave church, you hated when the sermon was over. marvel collegiate church, and i had a church in jamaica queens when i grew up in queens and it was possible. first presbyterian church of jamaica and i was there for years, and that's where i went to sunday school. and one of the things that's so incredible about the new hampshire numbers is i lead with everybody, i lead with old, with young, as you saw, you saw it, everybody.

but one of the groups i lead with substantially evangelical. and in iowa with the evangelicals. they are incredible people that are really smart and want to see our country thrive, but the beautiful thing, because it was such a comprehensive poll in new hampshire, and they just went over everything. tea party, like leading by a lot. moderates leading by a lot. everybody, literally, i think, you'll correct me if i am wrong. i think i led with every single group, by substantial numbers. i was honored to lead with the evangelicals, i love the evangelicals. good, absolutely, good to have you back. reporter: [inaudible]

>> why do you say that? >> you cannot do that. >> well, a lot of people think -- no, no, excuse me. a lot of people think that's not right. that an act of congress can do that. it's possibly going to be tested in courts. a lot of people think if you come and you're on the other side of the border. somebody, a woman getting ready to have a baby, crosses the border, has the baby, for the next 80 years, we have to take care of the people. no, no, no, i don't think so. excuse me. some of the greatest legal scholars and i know some of the television scholars agree with you, but some of the great legal scholars agree that's not true, that if you come across -- excuse me, just one second. reporter: [ inaudible ] i am answering, if you come across for one day and have a baby, now the baby is an american citizen.

excuse me, there are great legal scholars, the cop, that say that's absolutely wrong, it's going to be tested. >> reporter: [inaudible] >> very easy, i'm a builder. i can tell you what's more complicated? what's more complicated is building a building that's 95 stories tall, okay? >> reporter: but the time and money. >> you think so? i don't think so. a lot of people don't think so. >> reporter: [inaudible] >> i don't believe that. you're right, i don't believe that. and the drugs come, they have pictures, they have everything, crawling over the fences, which are by the way, this high, have you fences that are not as tall as i am. but coming many different ways, the primary way of coming is right past our border patrols who by the way are tremendous people. they can do the job but they're told not to.

>> reporter: [inaudible] >> here's what we're going to do. >> reporter: are you going to bring the army? >> in a very humane fashion. i have a bigger heart than you do. do it in a humane fashion. >> reporter: you are all over the place. is there one question i ask to move on. >> okay, the one thing we're going to start with immediately are the gangs, and you agree there are bad ones, do you agree with that or you think everyone is perfect. no, no, i ask you a question. do you agree with that? we have tremendous crime, we have tremendous problems. i can't deal with. this listen, we have tremendous crime, we have tremendously -- no, we have very bad ones, you would agree with that, right? there are a lot of real bad once. they looked at some of the gangs -- excuse me, they looked at the gangs in baltimore, in chicago, even in ferguson, they have rough illegal immigrants, do you mind if i send them out?

do you mind if i send them back to mexico? no, no, do you mind if i send them back to mexico. those people are out, out so fast your head will spin. the rest we're going to do, remember you used the word, illegal immigrant. >> reporter: i didn't use the word. >> you should use it. that's what the definition is. >> reporter: no human being is illegal. >> when they cross the border, from the standpoint of america, they are illegal immigrants. i want these people, the good people, i want them to come back, and i want them to get documentation and get so they become legal. you know what it's called? management. you're not used to good management, you're always talking about government. let me just tell you, wait, wait, wait. government is incompetent. guys like bush and some others that i won't name, they're incompetent people, they don't have it. i agree, they can't do, it but i'm a great manager, i know how to manage things.

i hire unbelievable people. when i look at the vets, when i look at the va -- excuse me, when i look at va, we spend billions of dollars and people are treated horribly, horribly. that will work great. what we're doing here will work great and we want to get good people back in, and let me just tell you. reporter: [ inaudible ] i've given you specifics, great management and they hopefully come back in very soon. okay, another question? wait, go ahead. yes, sir. >> reporter: is there any specific changes of law [inaudible]. >> money and politics? there should be frankly more transparency. because i see a guy like jeb bush with 114 million which is higher and nobody knows who put the money in, and they all control him like a little puppet, okay? i know half of the people, i can't find it out, as soon as i do, i will know most of them. they're friends of mine, i used to be the king at that.

okay? i know the system better than anybody. the fact is that whether it's jeb or hillary or any of them, they're all controlled by these people, and the people that control them are the special interests, the lobbyists and the donors, and they're controlled. you know what the nice part about me? i don't need anybody's money. if the woman sends $7, that's great, because she's investing in this country, in a proper way, not an improper way. i don't need the money. if somebody says i don't want ford building in this case, in mexico, i want them to build here, i am not hit by the ford lobby and by all the other lobbies that you know who they are better than i do. they're not going to hit me because they didn't give ten cents to the campaign because i don't want their money. so it's very important.

>> reporter: [inaudible] >> i don't know about the limits, the most important thing is transparency. you have to know who you're dealing with. and they don't. a lot of my friends put money into pacs, many friend some, enemies too, by the way. friends put money into pac us and need tranparency. you need to know who's putting up what so when they start making deals in a year or two years or three years, you know what's happening. one more question. go ahead. >> reporter: [inaudible] >> no, not at all. i either said that. no, i think most of them are good people. i love that question because hopefully maybe somebody -- i think most of them are very good people but they are here illegally, and we're a country of laws and we're a country of borders, we have to have a border. we'll have a border, and we'll have a wall, and the wall is going to have a big beautiful door where people can come in legally and we can bring

talented people. we need that in the silicon valley, when somebody goes to harvard, yale, princeton, the wharton school of finance, as soon as they graduate, we send them out. it's ridiculous. they want to be here. they go to their country, whether it's asia, mexico, wherever it may be and compete against us. i don't want that. how about one more. yes, ma'am, go ahead. reporter: [inaudible]. >> in where? >> reporter: in wisconsin, in the latest poll numbers scott walker is leading among republicans 25%. >> in wisconsin? i really don't know. i would think we'd win wisconsin, i have a great relationship with the people of wi wisconsin. i don't know what the poll is. i know this, in florida, they just came out with a poll, and i'm at 28, and bush is much lower and senator rubio, who is the sitting senator is much,

much lower. so i don't know, i think i'll do very well in wisconsin, i think so. yes? yes, sir, go ahead. go ahead. go ahead. reporter: [inaudible]. >> he came up, he wants to support my campaign, but then i said, gee, he said negative things about me, and comes up to my office want ands to a part of my campaign, but he's a hedge fund guys, and honestly, maybe the hedge fund guys won't like me too much. i know a lot about hedge funds and i know how they're taxed, better than he does. so maybe they won't because maybe they won't like me. you understand. he came up, he wants to support me. he wanted to leave walker to support me, but i didn't make it so easy for him. okay, go ahead. reporter: [inaudible]. >> i don't know, look, i have a lot of respect for roger, we'll see. you know, maybe, maybe not.

i really don't know. look, i think they cover me terribly. fox news, i think they cover me terribly, and i'm winning by double digit on every poll. maybe it matters, maybe it doesn't. i don't think i get good treatment from fox, they certainly cover me a lot. well, i'm being covered by everybody. i don't know, i don't think so because i think they give me very bad treatment. i think fox treats me terribly, and a lot of the people that like me think they treat me terribly. why? do you think i was asked nice, easy questions. the other guys are saying what are you going to do about jobs? the others saying do you love god? i get these questions like what's going on here? and yet i won in every single poll of the debate, i won. i won from drudge, i won in "time" magazine, i won all the -- everybody thought i won the debate. i certainly had the worst questions, the most unfair

questions, and you know, i like fox, i like it, but i think they treat me very poorly. yes, go ahead. i'll do that. i'll do that, sure. >> reporter: the twitter fight, the late-night about megyn kelly and lindsey graham. >> takes two seconds, do you a couple of tweets when. people treat me unfairly, i don't let them forget. maybe we should have more of that and the country wouldn't be pushed around so much. reporter: [inaudible] >> i think so, i'm going to bring the jobs back. >> reporter: univision, 75% -- >> how much am i suing univision for? no, no, do you know the number? tell me, down the number? and you know you're a part of the lawsuit. how much am i suing univision for. >> reporter: i'm not reporting. >> it's 500 million. okay? good, and they're very concerned about it. i'm very good at this stuff.

yeah, go ahead. >> reporter: 75% of the -- >> i don't think i will. >> reporter: no nationwide. >> i haven't even started. do you know how many latinos? >> reporter: [inaudible]. >> do you know how many latinos work for me? do you know how many mexicans work for me? they love me. do you know how many hispanics work for me? thousands, do you know how many worked for me over the years? tens of thousands. >> reporter: do you know how many have a negative opinion of you? >> once i win, they want jobs, that's what they want. in nevada, did you see the poll of the hispanics in the state of nevada? excuse me. big hispanic population. i wiped everybody out. hispanic. i won the poll. >> reporter: nationwide -- >> excuse me, i'm talking the only poll i saw. the one that came out which was in the state of nevada, i wiped

everybody out, i wiped them out with hispanics, you saw that, did you see it? wait, did you see it? he's an honest guy. now i like him. you and i will talk. we're going to be talking a lot over the years. we will, we will. okay, thank you, everybody. i think about it myself. very interesting, a lot of people have been asking me, in alabama i got very high marks for a speech. and i honestly feel, and it's one of the things i'm going to talk about, i'm always on live television. if you're on live television every three or four days, you got to say things different. i think about my speeches and i don't believe in teleprompters, it's very easy, would you like to stand up and read a speech for a half hour and just leave. but you know what happens? you wouldn't have sold-out crowds like we have outside. you wouldn't have 30,000 people like we had in alabama. you wouldn't have the crowd

like we had in new hampshire. it's not the same. i jokingly say if you're running for president you shouldn't be allowed to use teleprompters. i think about my speeches a lot. i think about what i'm going to say but i essentially don't use notes and definitely don't read the speeches, i think it's much easier, but you know what happens, you don't have the same vibrance, you understand. >> reporter: the other night on twitter, you write those by yourself. >> i do a lot by myself, you'd be surprised. people are shocked how smart i am, right? >> all right, there he is donald trump wrapping up questions reporters in iowa. good evening, i'm tom sullivan in for lou dobbs, joining me jedidiah bila and pulitzer prize-winning columnist michael goodwin, there's another big dose of donald trump. he's a magnet.

he draws you in because i just want to tell you the questions i'm asking you are really great. [ laughter ] >> i'm really good at this. >> i would caution him there's a fine line between confidence and arrogance, and one of the people don't like about president obama is he's incredibly arrogant all the time. i find the same people oftentimes that don't like the trait in president obama like it in donald trump, maybe that's because he's outside the political sphere, maybe that's because they agree with him on a bunch of other. i would caution him about the late night twitter rants, i think this takes away from the debate. it's beneath the office of the presidency to dig into fox news, and look, donald, the questions are supposed to be hard. megyn kelly gave you hard questions. it's not supposed to be easy for you, it's supposed to be tough. accept the challenge. if you can handle it, handle, it be above that criticism. i don't like the politicians that criticize the media.

either you can handle the heat or get out of the kitchen. he's the guy that can handle it. i don't know why he's stooping to that level. it's beneath the office of the presidency that he seeks. >> we all get criticized. why did you say this? why did you say that? i'll use a term the president used about the crazies, the whack jobs that go after you over and over and over again, there's a different too about politeness and being -- you can be non-pc, that's the cool thing right now. but shouldn't thereby politeness with being non-pc? >> an old saying in journalism, tom, no such thing as a stupid question, only stupid answers. i think donald trump is his own worst enemy as jedidiah was saying. he has seized on his fight with fox, with megyn kelly and with other people, too. he can't walk by jeb bush without punching him in the

nose. he brings up scott walker almost all the time. before that it was rick perry, john mccain, it was lindsey graham. so he's always picking a fight with somebody as though that's how he shows how tough he is and how he's going to stand over them like muhammad ali at the end of the night. i think at the same time, we have to acknowledge that what he's doing so far is working, certainly more than i thought it would. >> it's because of the discussion, the topics, what about that 14th amendment. what about the anchor baby? that's something i haven't thought about before. immigration, immigration by the way, the polls for the last few years, it's always been very, very low. people are much more concerned about jobs and the economy but all of a sudden immigration is number one because donald trump made it number one. i don't give him credit for bringing these points of discussion. it's just it's so rough edged.

will people still embrace him a year from now? >> i'm not sure, i think part of his appeal is people on the right see republican candidates as coming off weak. i agree with him on jeb bush, he's a weak candidate. scott walker gave weak defense of obamacare alternative. i'm waiting for republicans to give a strong delivery, there are many things he does well. i've been defending his charisma, defending his ability to engage in audience. i think that taking on another candidate's policy and going hard for that and making jokes how jeb bush is putting him to sleep is very different than personal attacks against a news anchor. >> that's key, come after a person for their ideas, for their comments for whatever they're saying, but to call somebody a bimbo is to mock your competitors about how few points they have compared to yourself, gets to be tiresome.

>> i think you are absolutely right. the tests come in the long run, does he have another gear? a second act? or we see the same show over and over and over? we don't know yet. it is remarkable that he is doing so well in the polls and he's right, it's happening everywhere and i have to say it seems to me that we keep judging him as we judge all politicians, we assess them on a set of metrics that we use for every candidate and every campaign, and certain ways they behave, and we check the boxes. he's blowing up the box, tearing up the scorecard, and i've never seen anything quite like it certainly at this level, but at any serious office, i've never seen a candidate run so far beyond the boundaries and do so well at the same time. >> which is very entertaining, we all admit this is very

entertaining. but at the same time, the problem is the bench, a lot of people that love this look at the other 16 and go is there anybody there that will stand up and show some something? >> i keep saying to the republicans look alive. give people something to be excited about. you can have obamacare alternative. sell that. i saw bobby jindal and scott walker all talking about obamacare. if i weren't completely embedded in the political scene, i would have changed the channel. the thing is no one has been able to steal the microphone from this man. what remains to seen is the other candidates to property their cases in a policy and a way that makes people excited and want to leave the tv on, people will shift attention from him over to them. >> i don't think they can do that right now. i think he's getting all the

attention, will continue to get all the attention, all they can do is survive. they're now in a -- >> waiting for him to trip? >> there will be a moment when the camera will come to them and they will be able to talk and they'll be heard because people have given up on him but it may not happen. >> michael, then the candidate is going to pretend they're more real than the real donald trump. and the problem with this is everybody looks at washington whether democrat or republican, doesn't matter, that's why bernie sanders is doing so well is because they all seem so scripted, they all seem so phony, they all say i'm for you when they're in it for them. so this is a guy, that's venthough he's outlandish in what he says, it's okay because he's being genuinely honest. >> i would tell them be yourself. ben carson trails him, in some states he's right behind him. and ben carson is the complete antithesis, he's soft-spoken, i

want him to be loud or the issues. he's being true to who he is. people recognize authenticity and able to pick the people on the stage they feel aren't regurgitating talk points and true to who they are. if those candidates accept the way to success is to be he and to carry that through and resonate with the audience, somebody might steal the mic possibly think. >> of those two people, neither one have been elected to anything. donald trump and dr. carson. you have a revolt against the establishment against people who have been in politics. even if they've done great things, they're thrown out with the trash because of the jobs they hold. tough environment. >> i am with you, ben carson is genuine but he's not being heard. he will, anyway. >> we'll see. >> jedidiah and michael thank you very much to both of you. donald trump tweeted out personal attacks about fox news's megyn kelly and in

response to those attacks, our boss, chairman and ceo roger ailes issued this statement --

we're coming back. we have much more, stick around, stay with us, we'll be right back.. so much for turnaround tuesday, great hopes this morning but not by the closing bell. when will the volatility end? fox business' liz mcdonald and moody's chief economist john lonski join me. and the saying what goes up must come down applies to human towers. you won't believe how many folks get on before the tower topples. what super poligrip does for me is it keeps the food out. before those little pieces would get in between my dentures and my gum and it was uncomfortable. just a few dabs is clinically proven to

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. tom: i'm tom sullivan in for lou dobbs. the main news at this hour, dramatic reversal for u.s. stocks in the final hour of trading. much more on this in a moment. also court documents revealing that disgraced irs official lois lerner used a second personal e-mail account to conduct agency business. the account was set up under the name koby miles which sources tell fox news is the name of lerner's dog. hillary clinton plans on leaving her $100,000 hampton's beach rental tomorrow early to head back to the campaign trail. clinton made a couple of quick stops in cleveland and minneapolis and back to the hamptons for another week. on wall street, it was another wild ride for stocks today. the dow erasing a 442-point

gain in the final hour of trading. we closed sharply lower, suffering the biggest reversal since back in the terrible 2008. the dow finished down 205 points, the s&p down 26. nasdaq lost 20 points. the reversal on wall street comes after china cut its interest rates in an attempt to counter the sharp market sell-off in increasing concerns about economic growth in china. economy certain to be a topic of discussion when the president and his advisers travel to beijing later this week. fox news chief washington correspondent james rosen has the report. >> reporter: in its first two hours of trading, the dow jones industrials surged 400 points almost erasing monday's losses, wall street's early thumbs-up to moves by china's central bank which cut interest rates for the fifth time in nine months and reduced capital

reserve requirements but china's main index continued a four-day slump. japan's nikkei and the shanghai reported further losses and by day's end, the dow lost the 400 points and 200 more. analysts split on what it all tells us about america's economy. >> if you look at service sector, about 70% of the economy, the last ratings have been very, very good. the economy is growing at a subpar rate. >> if you take the stock market out of all the number, gdp, i don't care what number you want to use, everything is not on all cylinders and after keeping interest rates at zero and this is what we got? >> reporter: aides again touted his economic stewardship, concerns remain over china's uneasy mix of political repression and potential to contaminate other economies. such that the white house is sending national security adviser susan rice to beijing

this week in advance of next month's state dinner. >> we need to speaking out about china. >> reporter: governor scott walker of wisconsin urged the cancellation of the state dinner for xi in citing the massive cyberattacks against america. militarization of the south china sea, continued state interference with economy and continued persecution of human rights activists. >> obama weak on china and russia because he wanted them on the deal for iran. >> reporter: the state department said the dinner will go forward as planned. >> secretary kerry is personally involved and looks ford his participation into making sure it's a success and there's no plans to change the visit. >> reporter: now the white house was able to point to two bright spots on the economic landscape today. first new home sales rose by more than 5% in the month of july. as well consumer confidence shot up this month, highest reading in seven months.

tom? tom: thank you, james rosen of washington. joining me fox business stocks editor elizabeth mcdonald and moody's chief economist john lonski. there was a sign yesterday that the company that did the closing bell yesterday was cash advance, which owns pawnshops. i thought that was an indicator right there we should be careful. >> that is funny. tom: john, start with you, the market started off a little better, they gave it all up in the final 20 minutes. >> i was hopeful we would finish higher by a couple hundred points. the opposite happened! we're down couple hundred points, 1% for the day. lot of shock and volatility, no depth to the earlier rally and we have to be prepared for a rough ride ahead. tom: as an economist and that's the point that has to be drilled home here is that the market is one thing, the economy is another. >> ah! but if the market remains volatile, that is going to

eventually adversely affect the supply of credit to businesses. of late, we've had quite a widening of what's called the high yield or junk bond spread. a difference between junk bond yields and treasury bond yields. if this gap continues to grow in response to high level of stock market volatility, at some point banks are going to become much more selective when it comes to lending to businesses, and that implies that would be less in terms of jobs growth and less capital spending. >> there is another part of this, liz, which i think is the wealth effect. the psychology. that if the joe and jane consumer keeps hearing my gosh, the stock market crash, plunge, this, that i don't know anything about it, we better not buy a new car. >> yeah, when you consider the estimated $2 trillion. this is painful. wipe the out in market values of portfolios in the united states, from u.s. market

performance, and note receipts, that's a lot of money. 209% correction in the market signals that the u.s. is in recession. it's not in recession. housing, there's bright spots, existing home sales hitting 8 year highs. home builder confidence back to 2005 levels before the collapse. so i'll tell you something what we're talking about now is the fact what we're hearing from wall street, they can't hang anything what's going on. we're in a news information vacuum. in between phase. yeah, china and the 19 countries in the emerging markets problems are washing ashore here. but the u.s. economy is a somewhat of a bright spot for the rest of the world. tom: the job recovery numberswise, john, has been legitimate but the problem i've always had with it is that the jobs weren't the quality jobs that were lost. lower paying job, people having

a couple different jobs. what's your take on that? >> in part, that's because of increasingly skilled and always cheaper labor from emerging market countries. in the past, it was just manufacturing that would suffer from stepped-up competition from abroad, but now because of advancements in telecommunications technology, u.s. workers in finance, data programming, radiology find themselves competing with a much less expensive workers. >> this is really important, getting back to what's going on in the markets and we were talking to chad and hilary, market pros, something else is going on. there could be a big sovereign fund that is rapidly liquidating as oil prices continue their plunge. last year oil was at 103. it's breaking down below 40. if you have a government or country heavily reliant on

pressuring down, something is liquidating. >> not just oil falling in price, industrial commodities in general are lower. base metals price index dropped to lowest level since july of 2009. the first month of the now more than six-year-old economic recovery. tom: all of this needs to be regurgitated. every time i've been through one of these things, taken a couple of weeks for the roller coaster to get in the direction, but the direction doesn't feel good as we're sitting here. i've got to run on this. but it's really, this whole point about the stock market, i just think it's going to take a while to get out of this. but i have to thank you and move on. thank you elizabeth mcdonald and john lonski. trump is holding a rally in iowa, let's go to it. >> immediate election, go out and buy her book, a very good book. very importantly for iowa,

anybody ever heard of the corn kernel poll? we were at 36%, won very easily. we had four from the state fair, and i tell you what, last week, i came to the state fair. i came well equipped in the helicopter, and took the kids for rides, and those kids loved me. and i love those kids. but we had an amazing time. my pilot said is that enough after going up and down like a yo-yo. nope, keep doing it. that means a lot to the people here, and having got that vote it's incredible. here's what's happening, a little with different situation than has happened before. a great journalist called me, somebody that i don't know but somebody that i have great respect for. one of the major newspapers and he said could i ask you one question, mr. trump? what? how does it feel?

i said how does what feel? he said this is the summer of trump? how good is that for my ego? he said -- i mean and he's really one of the -- who is it? who is it? but one of the really top people. not even necessarily a fan of mine but i think he's becoming a fan rapidly. he said how does it feel? i said why do you ask that question? i got to win. it's one thing to have the summer of truchlt doesn't mean anything unless we win both the nomination and we got to beat hillary or whoever is running. whoever is running. otherwise it doesn't mean anything. if you lose, what does it all matter? he said it doesn't matter if you win or not. what you've done has never been done, nobody has seen what's happen here, with the polls and the enthusiasm and the press and the ratings, and you know

why the cameras are all red lighted? because of ratings. if i didn't get ratings, they wouldn't be here, they wouldn't be here. they're not nice people, they don't care about me, about you, they don't care about anything, the only thing they care about is ratings when. i did the "apprentice," which was a tremendous success. i was hosting "saturday night live," and loren michaels came up to me, it was bedlam. the show is number one, and i'm hosting "saturday night live." my mother and father would have never believed this. and loren michaels says this is great. i said you know, loren, it won't always be like, this someday the ratings won't be good and nbc will call me and say mrierjs tru -- i'm sorry,

mr. trump, but the ratings are no good. he said no, they won't even bother to call. it's true, they won't bother to call. and you know the "apprentice" was a tremendous hit. nbc renewed it. i may be the like the only one or one of certainly like, you can count them on your hand that turned down a major renewal. in fact, mark burnett said you got to be kidding, you got to be kidding? you're turning down a major renewal. he called it a renewal. he said you're turning down a renewal. nobody turns it down. and i turned down a renewal for many, many shows, and do you see the kind of money they paid me. remember you had the certain anchor who said he doesn't believe it, and then had to apologize. a lot of money. i told the heads of nbc, the head of comcast, amazing guy, great guy. we'll just call him steve.

he's a great guy. the head of nbc, the head of reality television. they came to my office five months ago, sat in my shares and said donald, we've already renewed the "apprentice," we want you, we love you. they don't love me so much anymore, i have to be honest. and i said to them fellas, i really want to run for president. i want to make america great again, it's very simple. i want to do it. [ applause ] >> and they didn't believe me. they didn't believe me. and i said honestly, i'm going to do it, and they had the up-fronts, the up-fronts is when they announce the show. we're announcing we're renewing the "apprentice" with donald trump. i can't believe it. nobody believed me. and my wife actually said to me, she said you know nobody believes you're running, because i looked at it serious, mostly last time, i looked at

it but very unseriously, but last time i looked at it seriously and i said what do you mean? she goes if you ever actual lie announce, you're going to go -- she knows people like me, i'm a nice person. nobody knows that. it's true. i tell people i'm a nice person. in some ways it's not good, now we're going to talk about china and negotiations, i don't want to be a nice person for that. i am. i love helping people, and my wife said to me, milania, she said if you run, you're going to win, but you have to announce, if they take polls nobody is going to say you're running. right? and i said, well, i don't know. and i'll tell you what, it takes courage to run. it really does. you're really exposing yourself. right? [ applause ] a lot of the press, especially

the political press, you know the financial press has been pretty good to me over the years. in "business week" magazine, they named me awhile ago, the best -- >> there's a little more of donald trump, in dubuque, iowa in a rally on his campaign trail. up next, president obama brands opponents of his nuclear deal crazies. and the obama administration finally reacts to russian aggression in ukraine, but is it too little too late?

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to defend themselves. like a dr. jekyll and mr. hyde, we're going to tell the russians standing with nato but at the same time, the ukrainians where all the fighting is happening, we're not supporting them. probably do the opposite. tom: what's the policy? >> there is no policy. tom: the air force secretary is sounding very hawkish about getting military equipment in place and bringing air force equipment into the area, and what are we going to do with it? is it a show of force? >> a show of force, and reinforcement. ukraine has always been an economic story. it's all about business. if ukraine cannot have the political stability to be able to attract foreign investment, and to fix this economy, ukraine is eventually going to collapse. i look at what's happened in the rest of the world, the chinese markets, all of the refugees flooding into europe, the europeans are not going to be able to invest in ukraine, if they wanted to, they don't

have the money and they don't have the bandwidth. at the end of the day, i think that ukraine will end up not being a member of nato or the european union. tom: also not a subject that anybody cares about so far. the presidential candidates are not talking about it. people go it's their problem over, there not our problem. so we basically sit back and watch. god knows what's going to happen in that part of the world. >> the problem with that is there could be miscalculations and putin could be a desperate guy, but watching that donald trump press conference and speech, i was struck by a couple of things. one, president obama he criticizes americans calling him crazy, warmongers, on the other hand, trump is rangry as our opponents overseas. almost like one guy has his elbows out at home, and the other guy wants elbows out abroad. i think i like the guy with the

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whether it iswhether it is target or ashley madison, class-action lawsuits are being talked about. the fact that ashley madison should have kept this information private, but nothing is really private anymore. >> hillary clinton learned that the hard way. that's important to remember what they ultimately need to establish his negligence. everyone is scratching their heads that these adulterers are now claiming this 3rd party website responsible for damages for inflicting emotional distress when there the ones who actually breached there own legal contract, the marriage. >> getting into this whole question about, we see those little -- i don't know how long those things are the say you accept the agreement of this website, but, no one reads those things.

i presume in they're and says he will hold us harmless. >> that's a great point. not only does it say that, but there are things that explained that no site can guarantee there will be a breach. every one says it differently. that is a real problem, and we can't just say yeah, but no one reads the agreement because that is where fineprint is. especially in light of continuing hacks and hijacks , we have a responsibility to read that because words matter and ultimately the success of some of these class actions is going to hinge on what exactly was said and whether the users agreed. tom: let me go back to you, who want to sign up for the lawsuit if they are already embarrassed or don't want their name out there, how

would a law firm get anyone to sign up? >> you're talking about 40 million users. i don't think that there will be any huge 40 million person listed we will be released and i'm sure the law firm will send out a form. you probably won't pay heavily involved. >> i presume this whole area of digital laws will become even bigger. we are all kind of leaving our financial information. the financial more than the embarrassment part when it comes to other department stores. >> i tell you what, money talks when it comes to the damages you can prove and how you can be compensated.

what distinguishes them is the kind of information that was compromised, not just finances, sexual fantasies. >> i am sure this is not the last we would here of this. that is it for us tonight. thank you for joining us. lt.us. lieutenant colonel ralph peters and political analyst ed rollins among our guests tomorrow. for now good night from new york. ♪ kennedy: hello there. joe biden still on watch inching closer to a white house run with the president's reported blessing. thank you, lord, but not the president's endorsement and joe has a pocket full of intrigue and frustrated donors still feeling quite fussy about horses on the track. still confused tongues are wagging. we all no they are