down gold is up bonds or rep, interest rates down. the price of oil is $44 a barrel the news of the day the downside move in the price of gasoline lasted. it is over. it went up a fraction over night. with that i give you neil cavuto. >> you are incredible. you cheapskate army are worried about gas. after church, young man. thank you area, very much. marked on capitol hill today. fair and balanced. he made overtures to liberals. not that the pope was thinking that but he made nine references that liberals would like. he made nine references that conservatives would like. you talk about an equal opportunity fair and balance bastion of the left.

after reminding both sides the bottom-line duty is to improve the lives of constituents. when all is said and done it is about looking after the betterment of mankind which really does cut to the chase with one of the oldest churches in the area. he is now feeding the poor and sending a reminder that this is something better than addressing and having lunch with congress. and again, it is in keeping with the theme of being the people's pope. but when i made reference to the things the left like to hear that was so cheaply politicized, he did speak in reference to climate change again but not like he did yesterday. he also talked about the sanctity of the human family and not to let that slip away and

also the value and sanctity of life itself. i could go on. as i said it even when it came to a fair and balanced critical read on this country of issues near and dear to the left and the right. we have six of them in the area he's got a busy day ahead before moving to new york later on. father robert, on the message of the pope and how it is translating, something must be inspirational because in the course of his remarks we learn president obama and vladimir putin will be meeting face-to-face at the united nations. i don't know if he was the divine inspiration for that. what are we to make of the pope's remarks of the fact he was in a bowl opportunity defender? >> i think you're right about that. like you i am reluctant to analyze this in the political

sense, that it invites a political analysis of this sort. i think he was very balanced. the scaffolding of the speech hung on for americans. lincoln with regard to the party, martin luther king with regard to inclusion and rights for all people. dorothy day with regard to social justice and merge with regard to dialogue which is a phrase he used repeatedly especially at the beginning of the speech. these are interesting characters, all of course americans. two of them are catholics, two of them are protestant and catholics are converts to catholicism. it's an interesting blend of personality. to be fair the stealth of the progressive end of the scale if you want to satisfy your political lurch. neil: no you're right about that. he also addressed the ap is

some for the better part of 12 hours. if you want to pray for me give me a good wishes. the family to say of her and take a chill pill here. >> you know he's in a country that separates church and state a lot of respects we are far more religious nation and those that have the church and state that a period he was warmly received in the moment he walked in. everyone was spontaneous. the most sustained applause, the most energetic applause in the longest applause when he first came in was what he made reference to the responsibility to protect life at every stage of the development. he immediately barely took a breath and linked it to the abolition of the death penalty. neil: so he's going to hit a lot of people's buttons here. do you get a sense that he seems very gentle, but this feeding of

the poor he's going to do he skipped a lunch with congressional leaders to do this. we are now told the fiat car he's been tooling around in was his idea. he didn't want the traditional motorcade vehicle we provide when any leader comes to town. he wanted to make sure he had that as a symbol of who he was. no doubt he's the pope. but he is insistent on that image. why? >> that is just in. i think the media times makes more of it than there really is. where he lives in terms of the rooms there, the equivalent of all of professionalism. the kind of thing like the fiat or his car at home this is him. this is a guy who collected retro men's every month and returned them to the newspaper kiosk for them to reuse.

neil: that sounds very stuart varney. >> if you want to get how to interpret him and it is very individual and focused on the people he's with the circumstances he is and. even if you look at him on a line of people he's talking to one or two people right in front of him. that sees it tough in his policy is. for the poor he says welfare isn't a great dane. you may need it in certain places, but the real thing we need to do is support people and neighbors and brothers and sisters. neil: very well put father. thank you. good seeing you again. now with us, republican mimi walters while the pope is addressing it. one thing that stood out is

famous welcomed immigrants, treat them as you would want to be treated. do you think he was trying to urge you and your colleagues to resolve one way or another this illegal immigration madness because it is inhumane the way we deal with that? >> i think the pope wanted us to see his job is to bridge people and bring men and women together and open a dialogue and remember we need to live by the golden rule. treat others as you want to be treated. that was the message she was trying to bring forward today. neil: i know there is a great temptation for specifics. you and your republican colleagues say we are open to immigrants but we have to have a procedure for this and that has gone way away. i am just wondering does he

appreciate the magnitude of the problem or is the same at everybody and because this keeps coming up not only mr. marks at the white house but again today going back even in remarks now talking about st. joseph's. being an immigrant, being a guy without a place to sleep a place to go. i wonder what it's telling you to do. >> i believe the pope is telling us, listen, the country of america was founded on immigrants. both sides want to have immigration reform. democrats did come republicans do but it's a matter of how we get the reform and what it looks like. the pope is saying okay we need to open up the conversation and find common ground to take care of people come into the country because they want a better life. >> you also talked about the dangers of religious extremism.

that seemed to be a cross purposes with carrots nurse who could slip through border and slipping on the refugees and some of these other parts. do you think he appreciates the inherent contradiction in that? part of addressing the serious religious extremism is to wreck at some unholy moment trying to slip through the immigration cracks. >> that's absolutely correct. we need to be careful because there are people who use religion for evil reasons on the pope was trying to get the message out what we need to embrace immigrants, we need to be careful and make sure people are not coming to the country who want to harm us. neil: was a true we were told rules on out that there would not be spontaneous applause and furthermore, no one if you were to touch him shake hands?

>> there's a certain amount of respect when the pope is in the chambers. i didn't see those roles, but i believe we should have all respected in. i was so awesome to have him. it was an historic day. i carry my rosary beads to read the whole speech and i'm grateful to have the opportunity to be here today. neil: thank you, congresswoman very, very much. not when it came to some references of this historic city. take a listen. >> -- 50 years ago as part of the campaign to fulfill his dream of all stable and

political lives. that dream continues to inspire us all and i am happy that america continues to be the land of dreams. [applause] neil: assured the news of martin luther king like that particular reference eshoo showed. i was also thinking this is another reference to the immigration issues we have in the dreams and opportunities inherent as a citizen of this country our goal is to keep aspiring to. that is essentially what jesus would've wanted, what your dad would've wanted. do you agree with that? >> the beautiful latino accent pope francis has reminds us of

the commonality of brotherhood and sisterhood. he kept saying we have to be brothers and sisters who live together. his reference to my uncle is very touching. i loved his reference to the sanctity of life. but it was amazing. you said he had nine on each side of the stage and is very valid. i thought that was marvelous. neil: i don't know if i missed a few in there, but i was making a point because the criticism he got yesterday, i don't think i was entirely fair because he did tweet the president on other issues in his remarks. it was said to be a left-leaning speech about the environment of climate change when in fact he did call the president on other issues. today he made a point of only making passing reference to the climate issue and more in the bigger picture of god's environment.

i did want to get your sense of whether you think he didn't want to leave america. we don't know what he will say new york or philadelphia is a conservative pope or liberal pope. he seemed genuinely surprised on this flight over that he's been told. what do you think of that? your dad and uncle would try to avoid those labels as well. >> it seems as though he has the heart of a parent. a father watching all over his children. i put the same amount of peas on every plate and i would stop and count that nobody with think they're plate is better than the other play. he is trying to bring us together with a commonality of love and compassion. the life issue, merit to family he cares about the environment as well.

i believe he's balancing all of that. i had a chance to write him a letter. i told him i like the pope of veal. he's a man of the people. so i really believe he cares about everybody and is trying to get us to stop fighting each other and sit down at a common table. that's the message from daddy, granddaddy, the table of brotherhood and sisterhood. i genuinely believe he's sincere. neil: jory very different. than mine. i like my sons to gang up on each other. it is good to start young. anyway one thing i want to leave you with and one of the things that's been said and the fact he's skipped the produce shoes that were well known part of his predecessor, 30s living

in such a thing that he prefers simplicity. there's a story only a couple weeks ago. he snuck out to get some high glasses and he was very kind of turn. he said his friends were fine he just wanted new glasses. in other words i have a feeling he walks out walk. he doesn't want to show off and seems to have a problem with those who do. we get to wonder where he gets that anti-capitalists label. that is what really gets a lot of the wall street types here. he doesn't trust them. what do you make of that? >> i believe that it's just part of his personality because i travel with a group sometimes but i'll carry my own bag. give me a minute and i'll slip

away by myself for the moment. it could be a part of his personality. i don't think he found others who like a little more fanfare. i can understand not want. neil: i don't know about that. i understand how that influenced this is thinking, but he says business is a mobile vocation, especially that leads to jobs. once again, putting the onus on those who have more to give a little bit work. we do a lot for charity. and they feel unappreciated. this pope simply doesn't like them. >> i believe he's saying the more you gave but more will come back to you. that is a song we used to sing at church. the more you give out the more you receive. many people understand not and many of the philanthropist who have that, they just get more and more.

the more they give away the more they get. the pope is shot by pushing us towards that. neil: it's always good evening. by the way young lady i do what you carry your bags. >> it's not too heavy. but chiropractor says stuart. neil: always an honor. now we've got dagen mcdowell on the pope's approach today. dagen, what do you think? >> it was enough to make everybody think it left everyone out. he did it thoughtfully. he did it respectfully. he did it deliberately and slowly and absolutely perfectly. when it made everybody think in terms of what he said you need to respect life at every stage. i'm posing the question, how can you be for abortion but against

abortion and for the death penalty. everyone should take batman. neil: by the same token he said unless you address this. >> what he did, no other foreigner who certainly spoken before congress. any foreigner spoken about americans, he nailed the american spirit. he got the dreams of americans who come here looking for the tram. you use the word respectful. his kindness and respectfulness of americans in terms of praising americans the way he did. not falsely, not with any sense of pie-in-the-sky dreams but in a real practical way he appreciates the american spirit and delivered the appreciation in a more risk artful manner than i've ever heard it delivered before.

neil: what do you think? >> it was a good speech. the damage is done in terms of this pope and what he stands for. listen, you don't go to the white house and talk about climate change but the president sitting right there, while christians are being murdered in the middle east. that is a fact. >> he also talked about religious freedom. >> there is a factoid missing here. neil: what you think about for balance for charlie gasparino. >> i don't think the reverse is -- neil: you are a pope hater. >> if you are a leader of the christian world and you have iraq obama sitting right there, don't you say something? neil: you don't think he has spoken out quite a bit? >> the president was right

there. >> there is a time and place for everything. >> he knows that and he has said that time again. >> your outrage -- [inaudible conversations] >> kindness and civility. >> people are being murdered right here. neil: i do want to focus on something going on right now. have an opportunity to have lunch with congressional leaders for something annoying the establishment folks in washington to rub poverty in our face by feeding the homeless there. of course that is not his goal. again, it does prove to be consistent with his approach. he will battle some cages here.

a lot of people are critical of this do you really have to do this? dagen: yes, i think his actions on that to send a message to everybody. if you have a few hours that are free, you should be visiting with the homeless and working at a soup kitchen. if you don't make a lot of money, you do have some time in your hands and you can help people. i think it's trying to lead through example. i will point out and this is kind of what we see in the political discourse. a lot of insults, a lot of yelling. he got a message across today quietly deliberately slowly in a way that more people listen to him. >> i agree with you 100%. >> one other thing he said in the pointed this out with

dr. king. he said business is a noble vocation director to producing wealth in improving the world. others are rico is notable because he started some thing called the aspen institute that promotes the free market and says the free market is a source of creativity and while for most people and it can bring people from poverty into the middle class and above. it looked as though the pope was taking a cue from the message. neil: i always think the pope sets the freedom of not speaking specifics. you should be aware. we do know that but we have an illegal immigration problem and we can't let everybody in. he was critical of the way it is handled and the syrian have landed there. you should welcome everybody in. he assured them the details of how you do without, the violent part because he did refer to that. >> i don't think americans need

to be lectured by the pope on charity. where an incredible, charitable country. we let thousands upon thousands of people in here. >> americans for the charity was the beauty of this message. dagen: i grow up igra panay baptist church. this is not a lecture. this is a man trying to the people of the id. the right way based on god's teaching. when i was in a baptist church, and they would yell at you and point you in telling you you're going to. neil: here we go. here we go. we are going to take a break and then work on excommunicating charlie gasparino. he is feeding the homeless right now.

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neil: a look at the dow down 186 points. to lead this country with the markets higher than when he arrived. let me stress that because three predecessors did just that. on average john pope was second with seven visits. those are the ones we met with the u.s. president. an active market trading days on average rose more than 2%. they went on when he first came some 40 years ago. they were up in the vicinity north of 1%. the big winner that is the record to be.

you are not doing it. we were down about 200 points when he stepped into the voting and we are now down 180 points. he left the house at the market at 253. is there any meaning to that? none at all. zero. why am i mentioning it? he is doing something far more important. he is stating the homeless. charlie gasparino does not care about that. i am going to try to save him sometime in the next hour and a half. help me america. in the meantime, john boehner is prone to tears. are we all? nevertheless been in the audience of the leader of christianity in this world come

out they certainly the catholic church can expect over the globe consciousness if you will. got him crying. that is not unusual. what is this what actually caught speaker bother crying. there is a coup in the making. there are a number of conservatives disappointed in his cage the president on his wishes. he said i think even the shine of the pope isn't helping. >> first of all i didn't know you were trained in exorcism. >> i've got to do it. >> john boehner is in the midst of a mood. he is a subject to the current mood of the republican party. republicans upset with the political collapse are looking upon her and upon her insane you are either with us or against us. if you need democrats you are against us. if you are not blocking barack obama's agenda come you are enabling his agenda.

that is a big problem. neil: maybe he is doing with the pope would do not to be on your way or the highway. ironically that approach doesn't work. >> he hasn't done that. neil: well, he has. he is criticized those who forced their way onto and end up not getting what they want anyway. it's critical to push the government to shut down. >> what kind of negotiator is it? it shouldn't because this is a deliberative body. ronald reagan was a man of legislature. john boehner should be setting the tone setting out the object is and is not doing that. he started saying we don't want to shut down the government. why not? how about for a day, three days. neil: you would really use that?

>> we shut down every saturday and sunday. and survived. neil: you are playing with grenades. >> 88% still operates. neil: but you are playing with grenades. >> ted cruz was criticized for it in 2013 and republicans took over the senate a year later. neil: u.s.a. and boehner should appreciate the wisdom of that and colleagues who say he should be more forceful. have to be gentle because he would argue i'm trying to do with the pope says ensign common ground. >> is barack obama say that? are they demagogue and shut down and demonizing republicans. >> i'm thinking of exorcism and trying to get past that. we have to draw the line

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neil: somewhat times we get the poll said.

the still young campaign here. connell mcshane says don't always buy them because they are snapshots. since joining gasparino we have 18 and will get those numbers as quick as we can. let's go through this. beginning with republicans in what is interesting here is not so much donald trump is fleeting. it is to second third fourth. and carson has gone up by six points from our last 18. carly fiorina and marker rubio. those three really seem some movement here. where we are seeing some movement. hillary clinton on top of the race in a comfortable fashion. double-digit lead certainly. if you go back to june, that was

about 60. he has double supports and then. she has come back. vice president biden is not in the race officially. so we are seeing some movement. that said, we do have perspective. this is 2007. who is going to be the next president? they thought it was here 44%. rudy giuliani was never president, 6% of the voters and has served nearly two terms. by the way mitt romney was in 2% of the poll. there is your much-needed days. in the meantime, you can under his hand by the popularity of candidates who don't quite fit the traditional candidate bill is the case. a new fox news poll shows republican voters in particular

feel the trade republican party establishment. the guys they counted on, they can't count on? >> they have a couple different problems. you have to take a look at how hard grassroots efforts have worked in 2010 and 2014 midterm election. then people in washington d.c. change things. a whole host of different candidates with really good things in town hall meetings against obamacare against president obama's executive and the unplanned parenthood even. data republicans feel like the agenda hasn't been stopped and have been able to push through more despite working hard to take back the house and senate. neil: they know a praise that he is for raising tax on the wealthy and haas companies that

hire overseas. they are opening up the factory in china. were they so angry they will try anyone even if they don't fit the traditional dna? >> it's a combination of both. they do not know donald trump's real record when it comes to punishing people who speak out against them and companies doing something he disagrees with. people don't know those details but the reason why people like donald trump is they are angry and sick of the culture. when you go ask people questions tea party meetings they are just heard frustrated with politicians claiming they want to be there to change things and saying and doing all the same things as before. neil: thank you very much. good seeing you.

i always love to read the media impressions of what they say about what the pope had to say. i generally like these guys. the pope urges congress to find fixes for immigrant environment problems. i'm thinking to myself, he also said he is concerned about marriage and family as a fundamental relationship called into question. he also said we are losing side at every stage of the development. business is a noble location and -- but i heard the entire speech. all i'm saying is quote him on everything. everything about the environment but the rich and the obligations of business as well as the reward of business as well as the religious

extremism because he said that the white house as well. that did not get much immediate attention. that is not fair and balanced. that's why on the show and throughout will tell you everything we said. some of you on the right what you hear. and keeping in the pope should focus on fewer than 18 different items today nine which could rattle conservatives. nine that could probably rattle liberals such as slaves. -- such is life. it is not fair and balanced when the media looks at that and pretend nine things didn't happen. they did.

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tree into even the pope can't say it came in as a big contributor is announcing is going to see at least 5000 jobs cut. data is spread to the entire economically sensitive data stocks. and they had into a slowdown. they attempted don't say that those develop ends out of caterpillar didn't help matters any and had a big chinese leader ahead of what will be a big status or tomorrow outside the white house. jerry lee beyond that, ryan tate on that and you are speaking briefly. you have the chinese leaders saying a bit of disruption under control. i am paraphrasing here. i'm thinking myself, their

economy is falling now. >> well, the emperor has no clothes on. they devalue currency. they make up numbers and predict before the numbers come out and show up on american soil and bring a whole lot of money and to what's really happening. sadly, the beautiful part though is that proves how important america is and we are still a player in the global economy. >> you would know given the fact of the leader when he is here. i understand and believe me i don't like to go inspiring trade wars here. all of these high-tech ceos who are brown nosing with the

chinese leader when in fact their country has been the one cyberbullying none. and they condone it. it's an economic codependent spirit call them frenemies or whatever you want. china is in a tough spot appeared in august they sold $94 billion worth of foreign exchange to raise money. it wasn't about starting a currency war. they are in deep, deep trouble. $3.6 trillion of foreign exchange reserves, all different countries selling a lot of that. the bottom line is right now the president should take that into consideration a note into consideration and note their back is against the wallabies the opportunity to stop the intellectual property.

china needs us. other countries as well. it will get worse before it gets better. neil: he and the president have established a relationship. it is a relationship that is an equal. if you had a meeting in you or president, how would you do it? >> first of all, it's hard and i can't believe i'm saying this, but i would fall in line with some of what donald trump as saying. these guys have been taken advantage for a long time. even the way they did devalue the currency, our guest is right. a comment as to the standpoint of taking a senator bean highly competitive. they are hiding something. the changes in the 2% of valuation is not to go out and help export import. neil: you also mention --

they've made up the numbers that we can't force the markets change and they can't forcibly get people to buy stocks. >> that's right. when you have someone to give the ropes, and ashley talking about the global economy, let's go back, let's win. and you don't want to do that. they need us a whole lot. but we need them as well. neil: do you agree? a 21 gun salute, all of that. we are going to go to town. >> it is one of those things. i'm sure obama will set out. reset this guideline guideline ago after cybercrime. you are talking millions and millions of people used to living and acting a certain way, conducting business a certain way. you'd have to enact wide

sweeping reform and regulation that would further kill the economy. the reality is we will go after, but to see it happen is a far cry. i don't think we will see much change. now it's time to put the heat on. if you are going to work with us, do us a little bit of a favor. make a showing. neil: guys, i want to thank you does very much. still careers in the wires and newspapers, how they are framing what the pope said today. the other one i like -- anyway, listen to this. pope francis calls to embrace the senator. but it was a small part of what he said. it would embrace the traditional family that they respect life at all stages of development. i'm not saying these are good or bad issues, but other ratios

seem friendly to the right. some might interpret remarks in which he kind of bash kind of -- kind of bash business society hates business for many when not to say say it's a noble vocation that leads to job so it seems to be a somewhat favorable view. he was worried about what is going on with traditional marriage in the fundamental relationship called into question. some might read into that the views that we are moving and other support that i don't care if you're pro or anti-gay marriage. these are issues where he's seeking both sides liberally. you can't pick and choose your ratios. jesus would do the same thing. so quit picking and choosing issues near and dear to you and make penalties of your stories or headlines and ignore all the other stuff. look at facts. look at facts. thanks.

neil: i know you will cause call me crazy. but in media reports watch the same event and i did hear this talk about things the left likes in the left hates in the right likes on the right hates. this is on "the new york times" website right now. it goes on to say in the first paragraph, francis issued a call to action largely favored by liberals on the excessive capitalism and offensive immigration. but wait a minute, no reference to the fact that he wants and urges everyone to respect religious freedom or the fact that he met with the little sisters of the poor and it was important to send a message to all the power that those who have the religious problems with laws forced down their throats quoting the pope.

that is one of america's most precious professions, all called to be vigilant to preserve and defend freedom that would threaten to compromise yet he went on to say we must live and work to protect and defend human life at every stage of its development. "the new york times" or the washington post for so many other entities on the same speech that i'm monitoring, were they even listening to the same set beach. he did talk about immigration to sort of lumped into say there is no distinction and the worries be felt globally on how out control to that. all i'm saying they mention all the things this pope said. not some of those that go to your ratios. even when it comes to issues like family values and whether the pope might be thinking those in this country who are moving the clock of history too

quickly. his sentiment, not reflected at all in the media. don't pick and choose your facts. sometimes the pope points out what are his reported, fair and balanced. more after this. ..

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only issues. "usa today," urging action on immigration. not nearly as much in climate. he did talk as well about the dignity of human life and how we should protect human life. he did go on to talk about religious freedom and how ignoring it compromises values. he did say he remains one of america's most precious possessions when i say we kind of shouldn't screw that appeared he did go on to say we must protect and defend human life at every stage of development from the beginning to end of me must not forcibly and the life against capital punishment. he said all of this stuff, get all the headlines and revealing have painted it is just these two issues. we said he said that, just as we reported yesterday he spoke to the need to adjust climate bills , treat our fellow man with

respect and dignity and provide opportunity. he also said taking these issues to extremes and talked about the religious freedom is so important to those not following this when it goes against religious values, it is something they are entitled to as well. they were battling the president over some of these new requirements that have now been placed into law. i'm not saying he is right where they are right or the left is right. all i'm saying is let's do what is right. don't pick and choose your right-wing or left-wing views on the subject. the pope was careful to mention no fewer than 18 items in his address before congress today. nine were friendly to access the right, nine were friendly to i guess the left. i think he was trying to be fair and balanced. so don't put sentiment in his mouth.

don't interpret what he says. right or left, i will go right down the center and relay what he said. if you were to follow these headlines, you'd think that's all we talked about and that is dangerous. that is very, very dangerous. david drucker right now, "washtington examiner." you and i have been briefly chatting. it's almost as if they were watching a different beach. >> well, neil, i think you make a lot of good points. a lot of worldview bias if not political bias. part of it is a novelty and it's new to have a pope who is so out front on position the left can embrace. we've always talked about the american political sphere about a pope being against abortion are against same-sex marriage. democratic catholics and the first time we've covered a pope

whether climate change or how he looks at the economy has given the left something to embrace. >> there's nothing wrong with that. here comes into the papacy and has who am i to judge. it's a breath of fresh air for him to reassess the arcane institution and whether they should add a scarlet letter for the rest of their life. the catholic doctrine has not changed. there has been no change so i welcome all of that. i think it is fair game and understandably many are impressed with that. it is most unfair to say all of a sudden he's not talking about the many in the mainstream media might find it. >> that is true. i did listen to the speech and i watched it. i was actually struck by the apolitical time, the respectful tone he took.

train to apolitical. >> he knew he was speaking to an audience of conservatives and liberals in a country of conservative liberals people don't classify themselves as any political persuasion. in that way he was able to communicate quite effectively even though some of us chose to look at the manner going one side or the other. >> what worries me is people will take away -- pakistan have to get in the weeds and details. they don't have to acknowledge the enormous, costly challenge we face with millions of refugees trying to enter countries in europe. just the retreat within dignity as everyone would want. but then we look at this and say we also have to have a sense of how we go about this and the devil is in the details obviously. two more or less say one side or

the other is good or bad or right or wrong, obviously talking about finding a good humane way to do with these problems. the trouble is coming up with a way to do just that. i don't think that's appreciated in the media. they say let them all and or worry about whether any of them are dangerous later. that's not what he said. >> the pope's job is he is a moral leader. his role is that of a moral leader. he really give a tip of the cap to american politics than our political system and how good it has been for the world over the course of the last 200 years. that was sort of the big take away. the fact he was willing to mention lincoln surely is not lost on the pope despite his views currently about conflict in the world and western war and

all of that, he does present lincoln fought a war to end slavery and keep the union together. that tells you a lot of complex thinking that comes from the pontiff that sometimes we don't do justice because we're trying to get things into 140 characters in a tweet or clickable headline. these are complex issues in unison that be the best of yourself and to some degree left it up to us even if he made his agenda very clear. >> are praising lincoln, he recognized rare times when you have to reach our two unspeakable wars and unimaginable violence to rectify any quality in some horrific situations. he spoke of the butchering of christians worldwide. whether he was tipping his hat to say go after isis was anyone guess. i'm not smart enough to interpret what he meant.

when he made a reference to welcome migrants, treat them as you would want to be treated. no one on the right or left would deny that. to say he was trying to lecture congress to do a deal, he was lecturing us on a humanitarian way, but not to finger one side as blocking it. i know i may be going off too much on this, but it is a classic case of how the media misses a fair and balanced presentation of the big problem. >> is a relic or a point. let's not forget it was the republican-controlled congress knowing what his politics are and how he looks at the world. the white house and congress work together on this visit. it is probably not the correct thing to do to put our own politics into what he said, but we are in a high political season already in high gear and

it's hard for a lot of people in washington and myself not to go when what they political lines without tapping back and realizing the pope has a greater purpose here and probably is trying to speak above american politics, even though clearly there is a political element to everything he does and says. neil: absolutely. i want to stress here -- i'm not taking sides. i just -- i listen intently on everything you said and came across this 18 items. 90 and favorable to liberals. jesus came back today. i think he would say all the things and he would talk about respect for life and dignity of family and talk about being very, very careful when it comes to treatment of the poorest in the least among us. he would be skipping a lunch with congressional leaders and

feeding the homeless. but he's straddling both sides cages. when the media reports on not, by all means, but would he kill you to also mention the times' bradley and the life. again, that is just speak. jo ling kent on a guy who's rattling a lot of cages, the leader of china. he's having dinner with the president of united states. a big celebration for him. all of this comes when we are getting news the chinese were behind especially for cyberattacks. >> there's a very complicated network of individuals who are part of that technically the chinese military but maybe different units of the underpass to have been found to be part of the cyberhacking and cybercriminal game. the chinese always deny it and you can frame that is their

belief that they are directly sponsoring it but they've not say that is participating. the issue here is this has been brought up with some of the best, smartest, richest people. neil: they really bring that up. >> close to her many throughout the record and we don't have access to it. but it was with jeff bezos warren buffett, mark zuckerberg, bill gates had a private conversation with xi jinping. we probably will do business but there's some significant hurdles. president xi jinping remarked he will eliminate some of those so they can have their businesses in china but it's complicated. neil: whether we are letting china off the hook in handling this. you look and follow this country very closely and the raptly get is we are a bit too much. >> certainly in this case -- a

product this has gone on for a long time. i don't think we'll ever go to get china on the hook for certain things within the cyberdomain. neil: why are they so about it? >> we do. we have to be cleared the united states is trying to drive line between what is traditional espionage activities, meaning being able to spy state to state and a clear differentiation between that and what would be considered as intellectual property or commercialize fast. at the end of the day, we can have meaning to make these agreements, but we will never achieve the cybertime for china. >> would you have a big shindig for him tomorrow? >> to be honest, i would. at some point you have to have the conversation.

neil: all of the stuff that comes with the state affairs. >> walk softly and cover a hammer. it is a new battlefield like the deserts and mountains i fought on. with the potential to do more disruption pound for pound than anything we saw. neil: it's good to talk. >> having a conversation with one of her largest trading partners is never a bad idea but so much of the market in the u.s. economy is tied up with the chinese economy. there's no doubt about it. neil: you are not on the donald trump approach. we have to realize china needs us more than we need them. >> look at bowling. 50% of the aircraft are flying in china. >> pages sold 300 warplanes yesterday. it's not to say the state dinner should or should not have been. you have to realize what is the chinese government about?

if people are all about symbolism. it depends how you frame it. if you see this state visit as honoring the people of china and using that to your damage could be, according to some a good strategy to take. and then there's the more critical part. it's much more complicated. >> this comes at a time we'll say you're the president will have a meeting separately with vladimir putin. that was back and forth for some time. we are told vladimir putin one of this meeting, got this meeting. there is nothing wrong with talking. to elevate talks at the dinner and everything else. what is going to come about? who has the upper hand?

what do you think? >> yes, we absolutely need to focus on those issues. the technicalities ... it's about the meeting came about are important. ultimately the russians asked for this meeting and a lot of back-and-forth with the white house and the greater policy community about what was going to happen. they decided to accept the obama administration has made their policy very clear from the first day of their campaign and that is on foreign policy we believe it is better to engage with adversaries whenever and wherever possible. do i just worry without a doubt. >> let me describe a scenario that is very probable. we have russian jets with russian unit and service to air missile unit. we have american jet and american pilots.

if i had put in i had to ignite a bomb in a roomgentleman asked the one question asked. what are you going to do a disservice to air missile unit targets and locks onto an american jet? what is going to happen? right now because yes they have her number. we put out memos. gary says implicitly at the end of the day we have no historical show in our actions. and what are we doing. this has the ability to be a foreign-policy and national security catastrophe. neil: do you get a sense feels he has a diplomatic edge here? >> the white house insists that is not going to be up on the table for discussion. they are only going to talk about ukraine and enforcing the peace accord terms. the white house doesn't want to

talk about isis, doesn't want to talk about the military buildup in syria and a single issue here. we will not see much progress or much action on syria coming out of this either way. i believe we should police the issue of the larger framework and hold them accountable for other behavior. this is the way the administration is going about it. we are talking about the syria incursion perhaps by the president and putin will talk about it next week at the u.n. neil: thank you, guys, all of you. appreciate your patience with the breaking news development. what if you were to meet with them put them on the room together. do you think he would be as meek and mild as he was today? is rattling more cages with his low-key style that many guys with their farmers bellicose talk. he is actually getting more attention to donald trump and it's killing trump.

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neil: i love what we do analysis on the show to get certain rights back off. you right wing, anything to defend your cause. he writes kudo, this is a fair way. robert writes, quit being in the presidente pocket. the poconos that liberals are evil. okay. i'm trying to be very patient here and point out the only purpose of my remark was to say you can't pick and choose.

nine were friendly to liberals nine were friendly to conservatives. a far smarter person in the territory on your take away. >> i don't think either political side can lay claim to the moral authority of what the pope said. it's about basic human decency. the attitude is about the same blessed are you if you vote for h.r. 62. many catholics don't follow what the pope does. you really think congress will follow what the pope says for the president? people look for their own special interests. neil: i agree with that. my only thing is the pope is not in the weeds. i'm sure if jesus were to come back he would not give in the weeds of people here do a talk about the broad duty is to look after each other. they look at the sacred nature

of the human beings to protect life in all stages. they recognize as he said early on he was very sympathetic and understanding and who is he to judge. but the doctrine has not changed overnight nor some of these thorny issues, but the decent human beings. >> cannot be polarizing. he warned about fundamentalism and religion and using that to excoriate people that i am right, you are wrong. he said he is against people using -- one person was so funny. they are in a joint dating right now in congress right there anyway. why not pass the budget? to reach out to each other which includes our relations and

how we talk to each other. liz: he didn't get into the excess of unbridled capitalist. neil: i'm telling you, we just invent stuff. liz: he didn't use the fiery language. neil: i do like how he told charlie gasparino.

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neil: all right. selling escalating on wall street. the dow down about 229 points right now. caterpillar big contributor at get-go. it will get rid of 5,000 workers and maybe more. talking about global weakness. markets want to hear as things are slowing down as they appear to be what does that say where we go and economically dependent companies are going to go? caterpillar stock was north of 6%. it had been down 11%. a hit is a hit is a hit and that is disproportionate hit on the

dow, under intense selling pressure even though we did hear good economic news, including home sales, 6% up tick, highest we've seen in bert part of two years, bringing back to levels we haven't seen two years. very littletonic for these markets. back to mixed messages and how both sides try to capitalize on one pope francis. we have democratic strategist and and a daily caller's vince. i'm enjoying something hillary clinton and can not, i'm in the audience of one of the most revered figures in the globe and even if i say nothing and do nothing, that counts for something, do you agree? >> i think so. this is the first catholic vice president, which is big moment for joe biden. he has been pretty up front this week about his faith, going so far he thinks life begins at conception. neil: i saw that. i was amazed just number of prominent catholics from

nancy pelosi obviously to john boehner, joe biden as vince pointed out, 130 some odd congressman and women. almost as if the pope was saying can we get on the same page and do something? fair and balanced arbiter. he was kind of synching both sides. you don't see that in the media presentations but i think that is what is was kind of saying. >> one, the pope has unbelievable approval ratings across the board, democrats, republicans, independents. he has slightly lower approvals with republicans than he does with democrats but still above 70%. when you look at somebody like say, congressman gosar who said he would boycott the speech -- neil: childish. stupid. >> totally childish. just politically stupid because he is going against someone who is more popular than he is. neil: you know, vince, looking at this, pick apart what he said by talking about family values

talking about clearly abortion talk about life and respecting at all stages. that is something they would like to hear. talking about the environment and you have to be a good steward of that, echoing what he said yesterday at white house. that is something liberals would like to hear. you don't want to label these things. what he is saying life is not party aligned or political philosophically aligned. i think what he is saying if you want to move forward with issues like immigration, all this, you have to find a way to do that. we're not doing that. >> right. >> i think in that case a pox on both your houses. >> find the common ground and common good i think that was his message. i was reading with transcript and, there were times to understand. there go back and get the transcript to read the whole thing. he mentioned institution of marriage. took a glancing blow at that.

by the time he concluded that sentence, all of congress the joint sentence was standing together. in united states anybody who talks about the institution of marriage you get half the room so stand up. neil: i think pope is speaking to broad platitudes agree. -- all human beings agree. we all want to look after our fellow man. we want to advance ourselves and see that our kids can advance theirselves in this world. we all at a core be treated decently like we ourselves would be treated. there isn't anything new. the devil is in the details. how far you go. popes don't have to get into a lot of the specifics. that i know, christie, what he is saying is, you are nation of immigrants. you come from immigrants. welcome immigrants. treat them as you would want to be treated. no one denies that. he will not get any details how many you let in and how you work

out the cost or those that might slip through might be dangerous and work the details out. don't get in the respective corners, fold your arms to ignore each other. >> it was really powerful juxtaposition yesterday. best image other than the pope's address on the lawn itself was that image of that five-year-old girl, sophie cruz, coming up to the pope giving her letter. neil: yes. >> exactly. while we have congress deadlocked on issues of immigration, here's the pope with outstretched arms with this little girl. neil: excellent. >> it was amazingly poofier you'll. neil: it was amazing. i want to stress to people that i think the goal of popes is to to be conscience, be a world conscience and get under everybody's skin. here is proof to the pope's success. he got under everybody's skin. you know what? at the end of the day with the speech before congress, they were okay with that. they didn't mind him getting untheir design. one brief shining moment, they

were all on the same page. let's get something done. let's do something good. we're down 222 points. no the everything is up to script. more after this.

neil: all right. it is scandal, whatever you want to call it that doesn't go away. jeff flock with the latest on ongoing volkswagen saga. saga it is. what do we have, jeff? >> reporter: can of worms, neil. all the worms have not yet

crawled out of it today. implications this goes well beyond vw. it could implicate many major automakers. report from europe, automakers like bmw, mercedes and gm's opal unit, they could, they will be looked into potentially being guilty of messing with the results of what are in europe the equivalent of epa tests for pollution controls. vw just recapped where we are with this, 11 million vehicles worldwide, they have admitted they put defeat devices in there, something that would fool the tests. today also, we get reports that vw will have a new ceo. the board meets tomorrow. it will be, we think the head of porsche, the current head of porsche. i tell you, neil, this one has a lot more legs to go on this. it's amazing. neil: amazing is right. jeff, thank you very much. however the company tries to resolve this, trust has been lost.

it is not easy to win that back. corporate history proves that. dagen mcdowell, gerri willis, charlie gasparino, who you can trust. more with charlie and his satanic leans. >> yes, my son. neil: exactly. on this trust level, volkswagen can't get out of its own way. >> they have done so much in so little time though. what has been a week. you have already had the ceo resign. they have set aside more $7 billion to take care of this. we should expect that the head of the u.s. division, michael horn also gets kicked aside. two other senior engineering executives expected to lose their jobs as well. i say, germany is concerned about this. this is the most important company in germany but big picture, volkswagen is doing everything it can and very quickly to win the trust back. let's point out, there are deaths associated with this

alleged fraud, unlike general motors at least 124 deaths related to ignition switch problem which gm essentially hid for about a decade. gm sales are doing just fine now. neil: what do you think, gerri? >> dagen covered it. she got all the high points. i think what is going on with volkswagen they're doing very much what tylenol did back in 1982 when they had a big embarassment. neil: they were not responsible. someone was breaking capsules. >> that's right. that is a big difference. they had 37% market share when that started. they could slowly regain over time but they don't have it. takata is very, very different. neil: airbagses people. >> this is the airbag people the japanese company. produces some of these airbags in mexico, all over the world. and their explanations what was wrong there changed over time. it showed a complete disregard for producing safe products. there was gum in these little airbag machines. you know, the material that was

ignited the airbag and blew it up, that was mishandled. over and over again we heard more and more what was wrong with the airbags. it showed that takata was not paying a bit of attention to quality. neil: but how proactive. johnson & johnson and tylenol were very proactive spending a lot of money to rectify a situation they didn't cause. >> i will step back, as you should do with the pope. the pope makes one big speech you guys are swooning. neil: did you watch coverage yesterday? >> one -- neil: did you watch the coverage? we pointed out some other things. >> i remember what i said. >> i listened to him as a christian. >> wv does one good thing -- neil: we do have something coming in from the vatican regarding charlie. do we have this? did we get this in? [laughter] there we go. >> there's me. neil: there's charlie. we hope that works. we hope that works. >> that is a little what it is

like to be on set with him. neil: it is cold here. >> reality. vw does one good thing. >> we're not excusing them. neil: reinvent -- >> put into context, somebody went out and okay, and it is not like they made a mistake. somebody went out purposefully put in a device that changes emissions. that's insane. that is criminal. >> were you watching the show yesterday? >> no amount of backtracking works. neil: you don't think they can get out of their own way? >> they're not back tracking. they are getting rid of people responsible. >> put them out of business. >> put them out of business? oh, because they didn't kowtow to the greenies? they didn't bend down to the epa? we love the epa, don't we. >> did bend down to the epa. >> no they didn't. >> yes they did. they installed a device that fakes the test.

that is bending over to them. neil: why do you bring out charlie, the worst in us? >> i'm bringing you back to reality. >> here is the reality. it is diesel. we don't care about diesel. neil: you noticed this too. you noticed this. charlie walks by a mirror, doesn't see reflection. >> by the way, the pope, you know what? we'll do a whole special on bernie sanders how great he is. why don't you do a whole thing on bernie sanders because the pope is bernie sanders. reflections of etch either. >> if you held up a cross in front of him i might run away. power of christ compels you! >> i'm trying to avoid the pile on. media piles on. toyota, sudden acceleration, how many people pressing accelerator -- neil: yeah yeah. >> media piles on when people purposely does something stupid. >> it is diesels. neil: there you go. that is all you need to know. >> exactly. neil: thank you, charlie

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including ones you're looking at, lowest level in at least a year. some examples include consumer stocks, macy's tiffany's coles hitting -- kohl's new lows. cvs. industrials hitting new lows. some examples are shown here. caterpillar, joy global. whether it is some confusion about fed policy or maybe something else entirely, what is happening in the market, we're seeing a pretty steep selloff. we know it is not the pope. we're comfortable saying it is not pope. neil coming back for nor kos to kos in a moment. "coast to coast" in a moment.

neil: so are they feeling the love in congress after feeling feeling -- hearing from the pope? loretta sanchez, congresswoman from the fine state of california. congresswoman, how much love are you feeling towards your fellow congressman and they to you? >> i am one of those democrats that actually get along with most of the republicans. we work on a lot of issues together. i didn't need a pope to tell me let's get down to work and work together but i'm glad he came. i am glad he came. neil: do you think he was saying, look, we have this big pressing humanwide problems and we have to find a way to deal with them?

he was kind of egging you guys on to get past your differences to do just that? >> neil, absolutely. he understands that the united states has to lead. that he was speaking to the leadership of the united states in that chamber. he basically, i believe was saying, guys, come on. get together. sit down. these are big issues the rest of the world is hoping that you will take leadership on these issues. and they're pretty important you know. making sure that the climate is around for generations to come. this migration of people whether it is because of war or natural disaster or lack of economic opportunity. i mean we really do have to grapple with these issues. neil: what do you think of what he said we have to protect and defend human life at every stage of its development. >> absolutely. as a catholic, i understand that. and as somebody who follows the united states constitution, and its freedoms and its rights, sometimes that is in conflict but i certainly understood -- neil: as a catholic when you're

hearing the pope essentially say life for me begins at conception, you can respectfully disagree but nod your head in agreement. >> exactly. i can understand because i was brought up in that faith and i am part of that faith but, when i walk into the chamber i walk in as an american, representative of the people who send me there and someone says i have to look at the constitution. that is my role. neil: all right. congresswoman, very good having you. good seeing. >> you thank you, neil. neil: official read on this, it doesn't count until we get his read on this, you heard from one of the most revered men on the planet, the pope. it is time for piscopo. ♪ (vo) what does the world run on? it runs on optimism. it's what sparks ideas. moves the world forward. invest with those who see the world as unstoppable. who have the curiosity to look beyond the expected and the conviction to be in it for the long term.

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neil: my buddy joe piscopo, he is great comedian. one of the best talents "saturday night live" ever produced. he has a great radio show. you know what makes his radio show great, i mean this all beautifully, with dignity, respect. doesn't tell anyone to shut up. doesn't chew anyone out. he gets a lot out of them. you know why he get as lot out of them? because he is like the pope without the ropes. i was thinking of you. here is the pope saying essentially to both sides, i'm going to unnerve both of you both republicans and democrats. but i would like you to try to understand that i mean it for the best so we move on to get things done. can we do that. what did you think of that approach? >> i don't know. this guy is true dispipe self christ. i'm a godfathering guy. i believe in the saints. neil: does it shake, that was funny with charlie gasparino, if the power of christ compels you.

neil: doesn't he double for linda blair. >> i go to church. this pope is great. he is very christ like, i don't need to hear, i agree with charlie on this. i was very careful on radio to say how much i admire catholic church, catholic charities. neil: environment. we're steward of god's earth and not ours. >> i will give you that it is god's green earth. neil: saying more than a lot of news organizations forgot, pushing religious freedom clearly later on met with the sisters of the poor, you can't force things down their throat. >> that is very true. when you talk about income inequality and ask me to do a second collection when i go to church on sunday, i don't understand that the catholic church is biggest real estate owner, in the world. and i'm in church, oh, it is bishop's appeal. what? how much can i do? neil: sanctity of human life talking about the value of the

family, kind of thing maybe some conservatives like, that doesn't get much play. i think he was trying to balance it out today. >> i guess some his english was very good. neil: very good. >> tough support the guy. it is so nice. don't do the politics. neil: he is not doing politics. why do you -- you and charlie. he is saying we're stewards -- you can accept climate change, man-made. what i think he is saying stepping back, we're stewards of god's gift and got to take care of it for our kids and grandkids. >> i think it is remarkable. one of my dear friends was the late great, yogi berra. i think yogi is reincarnated through pope francis. they look remarkably identical. neil: this is the best you could do? if you were talking on very holy day. >> we're contacting the pope to make yogi a saint. i will put that in the works with the catholic church. neil: you, sadly, yogi left us at 90, that this pope is trying to leave us think, right? >> it's a great question. neil: you're not answering it.

>> i don't think so. i just want, i like when he went to the little sisters of the poor. neil: yes. >> i like when he talked about the sanctity of life. that is what we're all about at catholics, don't tell me -- neil: go ahead. >> don't tell me about income inequality when pope benedict is in the summer mansion you have to get to by helicopter 20 minutes away. that i don't understand. don't close another catholic church -- neil: he tools around in fiat. i couldn't sit in that car. why don't you lighten up. you and gaspo are joined at hip. >> we're die-hard catholics. neil: talk to it. do my best pope. >> forgive me, father, i havetirement sinned ualize them. then, let the principal help you get there. join us as we celebrate eddie's retirement, and start planning your own. we live in a world of mobile technology, but it is not the device that is mobile it is you.

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wall street not liking it. stock under pressure. concerns the whole world will go kaput. that is not helping things. meanwhile "new york times" reporting still in the pope's address he opened wounds and urges congress tilting to the left. what world are we living in? theirs or this? here's trish. trish: thanks, neil. republican voters. they're fed up with the status quo. they feel betrayed by their party. according to fresh fox poll. i'm trish regan. welcome to "the intelligence report." anti-establishment candidates top newest poll, ben carson, donald trump, carly fiorina. they have support of more than half of republican voters with jeb bush hitting a new low. here is the reason. nearly 2/3 of voters feel betrayed by their own party. those in congress are not doing enough to stand up to president obama. democraticside, hillary clinton has hit a new low. while joe biden's numbers,