wow. you wow. look where we're ending day. look first, at all the dow. melissa: looks ike we'll not break below 16,000. that is one of the main things we're looking at. right there. david: just settling 300 to the downside. the nasdaq is the story. i don't know if you put up nasdaq numbers on the screen right now. look at that we're over 3% down on the nasdaq. i mean dow jones is nothing to write home about, except for bad newsletters. down about 2%. a full percentage point operator greater to the negative side. oil is down. gold,. come mint from the head of new york fed.

scott shellady, the tjm investments from the cme. monica mate at that. managing principle at 7th capital. adam, first to you. we were down going into the market as it opened. but then came the words from dudley. that seemed to put the nail in the coffin. right? >> that was part of it. he was saying we could have a interest rate increase before the end of the year. at any fomc meeting. last week, i'm talking to traders who said they wanted to see the interest rate increase. today not so much. they don't want to see the interest rate increase. wasn't just dudley talking, david. giving conflicting message. don't need to see interest rate increase before end of the year. that kind of lack of clarity and direction that investors and traders do not like, kaboom!, we sold off. we're just hovering at 16,000 mark on the dow right now. nasdaq is the story. look at that, over 3% to the

downside. scott, this disillusionment, coming about with regard to not only federal reserve but central banks all around the world. you and i were talking about this a long time. they don't believe in concept of free money is stimulative fact are to. doesn't exist. no such thing as free lunch. have the markets caught up to that fact? >> they're waking up to that fact but they haven't caught up to that fact. i could be a little bit sarcastic can't believe we're off, after qe1, qe2,qe, expanding balance sheet 2 1/2 trillion dollars. we're chucking along. i think we're doing fantastic. market is wake up to the pessimism and sarcasm. only thing free money did was inflate asset prices. i don't think middle class is better off than they were in 2009. i don't think anymore than upper one to 5%. that is the problem. commodities have been rolling over last six months, eight months.

they're telling us more to come. i still think the market has more legs to the downside. david: monica, almost seems like end of a pyramid scheme. whole thing, central banks, has been pyramid scheme. insiders got rich at beginning, a the love folks are getting it. doesn't it seem like end of a pyramid scheme here? i think there is selling and marketing coming to qe. i don't think the public completely understands savers have been squashed over the last, six, eightñr years. versus people who hold assets as your last guest said. my biggest concern with the rate increases, how this will impact homeowners, vast majority of consumer wealth is tied up their homes. people that wealth effect when they feel that their house price is up. and as rates go up, affordable will go down. you will not be able to afford as big after house getting a mortgage. my biggest concern in terms of waning off qe will be impact to mortgage interest rates and how

that impacts consumer sentiment and mentality. david: adam, one thing to keep in mind, one thing the federal reserve said, they will not sell off huge portfolio they have. yes, they will not buying anymore but rolling over what they have. they still have the enormous portfolio of what, about $4 trillion. >> in excess of $4 trillion. so, if they can hold on to it, they can hold on to it for a good long time indeed they will. the thing to keep in mind with the federal reserve and conflicting messages janet yellen was telling us some of the metrics they look at they might look at them completely different. for instance, inflation. they talk about 2% inflation target, we don't even have that consumer spending in august was up .4 of a percent. we should have some kind of inflation. but they don't see it at wage level. so there is no clarity what they're going to do based on, they keep changing the metrics by which they make decisions.

david: right. scott, finally will it be easy settlement? you say we have got more to go. but will we see a real pop to the downside? i'm avoiding word crash. we don't like the word crash around here. >> no. david: is it possible we level out in a u? >> i think you're right. i think that the general investing public will wake up and say, hey, we've had 0% interest rates, our 7th year, and we don't have inflation. we've seen oil come off from $100 a barrel to $45 a barrel, nothing flowing through to retail sales. if we had interest rates this low this long, wouldn't you think housing market would be double ortriple? david: that's right. >> all things tell me the economic engine is broken. people are still talking about a rate hike. i don't get it. david: we'll talk about something positive. thank you very much. when i'm talking positive, i'm talking about taxes going down. that is always a positive thing, melissa. melissa: there you go. donald trump and ben carson

running neck-and-neck in 2016. carson according to the latest poll is 1% behind trump. as biz man billionaire unveils most ambitious tax plan today. joining me with details peter barnes from washington. peter, break it down for us. >> melissa, trumps plan one million lower income workers, pay at least some income taxes. individuals earning less than $25,000 a year and families earning less than 50,000. would cut top rate for higher income earners to 25% from 39.6% but eliminate a lost deductions and tax breaks for them, and cap tax breaks for upper middle income, upper middle income class workers. would cut the corporate tax rate to 15% from 35% now but eliminate a lot of tax breaks and deductions for companies. would tax companies overseas earnings at 10%.

they pay no u.s. taxes on those earnings as long as they keep them parked over there. on capital-gains taxes he would cut the top rate to 20%. from the current 23.8%. >> talk to the. >> deaf significants or he said it will cost him a fortune. over again. >> you're right, fighter, thank you so much. tom says he would eliminate income taxes for millions of households. all without adding to the

federal deficit. will the plan actually work? joining me now, todd buchholzs, former white house director of economic policy under george h.w. bush. thanks so much for joining us. could this be revenue neutral? >> we don't know. donald trump stood there in front of his escalators, i notice the escalators were fixed, they were not moving up or down. frankly we don't have much more detail how he will get revenue. the only thing he did say he would eliminate carried interest which is something that jeb bush already spoken in favor of. and other republicans have. he does have this detail about taxing american companies on their profits abroad. which could actually lead some american companies abroad to leave america in order to avoid this trump tax. for rest of the details we don't know. melissa: let's back up a little bit. he is talking about the idea,

the tax code is where donald trump lives. there is nothing he knows better than as a corporation how to deal with taxes. i think what he is talking about the repatriation tax is trying to get incentive for them to bring back revenue this one time this is something that a lot of different candidates talked about which would be stimulative. he doesn't want companies to have factories and jobs overseas. clearly he will try to create a system to have them bring it back. you don't think that would boost the economy. >> in fact there are two aspects apparently what he said. one of them is repatriation. i think that is solid idea and one echoed by other republicans in the race of the other ones, details are very skimpy seemed to suggest that he would tax american companies on new profits earned abroad. which is different from the sort of territorial approach that other candidates have spoken in favor of. melissa: but the great unleashing of the economy that would occur as a result of lowering taxes on everyone, you don't think there would be enough growth there to make up

the loss in revenue. not only that, how much would it hurt the other piece of this we had to cut government spending in order not to balloon the deficit? i mean that should be the second piece anyway? >> i'm in favor of tax cuts in favor ever slashing government spending. rile not trump plan. the real question is the trump, that is can someone who is so petty, i'm surprised he didn't call the irs commissioner ugly in his discussion, can someone who is that petty and bombastic get this plan passed? it is not a bad plan. it may very well be a excellent plan. melissa: what pettiness has to do with any of this? this is time he laid out actual details for people to look at. especially close loopholes and limit deductions, a lot of people feel like simpler tax code, unclear what the net-net result would be, if you end up paying more or less, once you saw the loopholes closed.

isn't this is step in the right direction? isn't this what so many republicans fought for? why wouldn't they side with him whether he is a pan in the ass or not? >> far superior to the status quo. far superior than anything being proposed on other side of the aisle. it is picking and choosing from what marco rubio has already proposed, what chris christie already proposed. this is not revolutionary plan. this is donald trump coming to the microphones pretty much last and i got to choose what he felt was good. melissa: i don't know picking and choosing. seems like hitting beneath them on every single thing. he is not picking and choosing, better everyone else. i'm lowering even more and unleash business entrepreneurs more than anyone else. >> for instance, melissa, he hasn't made clear, again i'm not criticizing so much for the details. it is questions he hasn't answered so, for instance, senator rubio has proposed

eliminating dividend taxes capital-gains tax, immediate expensing for countries purchasing equipment. mr. trump is aisle len on that. maybe he will come out on senator rubio's side, and maybe he won't. so far we don't know the answer to that. melissa: i'm sure we'll get a lot more details. todd, appreciate it. david: e. >> good to be with you. david: rubio's top rate is 35%, donald's 25%. big difference between the two plans. "the donald" bagging a major endorsement from billionaire investor carl icahn. in our interview with neil cavuto. >> sounds like trump is your candidate. >> oh he is, he is definitely the best by far. somebody could come along genius in business maybe, you know, or maybe you don't. hey, i disagree with trump on certain issues. i will talk to him about it but right now definitely my pick. there is nobody close. david: so there it is. officially speaking.

we hadn'tcation of this because "the donald" was talking up carl icahn for the past couple month now but you can watch the rest of neil's big interview tomorrow at 12 noon eastern time right here on fbn. melissa: so the cheating scandals has rocked volkswagen now expanding to other big names. this as germany launches an investigation into the company's former ceo. jeff flock has been following the story from very beginning. he is standing by at at volkswagen dealership in illinois. jeff, you are learning the embroiled former ceo is it still within the copany, is that right? >> reporter: amazing information that has come to our attention today, melissa. martin winterkorn, who last week resigned from vw, we thought he weighs gone. no, he remains as chairman of holding company that controls vw. look on their website. you see it. he remains chairman of executive committee, superior to the

fellow allegedly succeeded him last week. that would thigh was muller. mr. winterkorn may be gone but not that far gone. german authorities report he is under investigation personally in connection with the emissions fraud. so, there you have it on that one. in addition, today the probe expands vw to audi. we have now eight different audi models that have been implicated in this. a1 through the a 6. suvs, q3 and q5. diesels and tdi. three vw senior executives put on suspension according to reuters. this thing continues to get bigger and bigger as it goes, melissa. melissa: thank you, jeff flock. crushed by a crocodile. beaten by a parrot? injured at opera house. there is actually a medical code for all of that, thousands of

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strategy in syria. >> when a dictator slaughters tens of thousands of his own people, that is not just a matter of one nation's internal affairs. >> translator: we support the legitimate governments of syria and it is my deep belief any actions to the contrary in order to destroy the legitimate government will create a situation which you can witness now in the other countries of the region or in other regions. melissa: with the two leaders on opposite sides of this, and many other issues with can we expect in their first face-to-face meeting in about two years? here to weigh in, major general jack keane, also a fox news contributor. thank you, sir for joining us. >> pleasure to be here. melissa: for this today, first is the meeting between these two gentlemen, and second what should be done in syria. let's start with the meeting. they can't even agree who called this both sides are saying that the other side approached them about the sit-down. why do you think they are

sitting down right now? what do you think the real main topic is? >> well, certainly there is a lot of distrust to be certain. that is why they can't even agree who called the meeting. but, the reality is, putin, in conducting the build up in syria is propping up the assad regime because the assad regime last year is slowly losing ground to the rebels and lost political support from the alawhites which are his base. putin will not let assad go down the tubes so to speak because this is his foothold in the middle east. that is primarily this is what this is about. the president is concerned what is going on here. you have establish ad fighter base. what is your intent? where is this going? is this going to further detablize the situation in syria or in the middle east at large? so, they clearly have opposing views on syria. melissa: so there are a lot of

people out there saying putin wants to go in and back assad in order to take out isis. why would we not allow that to happen and worry about the rest after that? what do you say to that? >> the primary reason he is there is, is to prop up assad. isis, while it has some impact on assad regime has nothing by comparison to al news remarks which is a radical group and also some of the other moderate groups should have impact on assad regime. is is a false narrative this is about isis. he will use that to be sure, because that is the cover story. that gives them the, what he believes is justification. assad is standing up against radicals. remember, the civil war in syria started because people were in the streets demonstrating for political justice, social reform. melissa: right. >> and equal opportunity. not for jihad. not for radical islam. he systematically began to kill the unarmed people. that began the civil war.

melissa: before we run out of time real quick. it is a disaster, a mess. neither assad nor putin respect us right now. what do you think is the best move? a lot of people throw up their hand and say, what is your best play? >> well, you know, you can throw your hands up and say the middle east is destablizing. countries are becoming failed states. what we should do is stay out of it. that reminds me of 1938 in europe when hitler was on the rise. isis is not, will continue to expand and continue to develop a worldwide following unless they are stopped. and we have to stop them here. we need an effective strategy. we don't have one, melissa. melissa: yeah. >> i'm hoping that the president is beginning to put together something that makes sense so we can stop this barbarism and put in place something that is realistic. right now we're failing. >> general jack keane, thank youals always for your insights.

>> thank you, melissa. david: what a scary situation. raul castro is addressing the u.n. for the first time. his brother did it many times starting back in 1960. this the is first time raul has been addressing the u.n. as president of cuba. assessing donald's tax plan, does all the math add up? what about the political dimensions to it? we'll take it to our panel. melissa: warren buffett as you have never seen him before. you have to stick around for this one.

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david: so with donald trump's tax plan get this economy moving again? his big ideas unveiled in massive tax cuts. take a listen. >> we're going to cut the individual rates from seven brackets to four. simplification. 25%, 20%, 10%, and zero. david: now supply-siders have been slow to endorse trumps plan until they saw the details. now they have seen it, they got to admit they like what they see. has trump got support of folks who last week were running ads against him? joining me, jeff myron, harvard economics professor. mary kit, a former speechwriter for president george h.w. bush and julie roginsky dem strattic strategist. ronald reagan brought the top

rate down to 28%. donald trump down to 25%. just about the same. >> there are some sim laters for sure. and things in perfectly good direction. eliminating amt is great. eliminating death tax is great. lowering rates. there are odd things. it increases rates in other ways, steeper phaseouts of deductions and exemptions. it does on corporate side is mix of good things and bad things. there is a lot to digest. david: bottom line, mary-kate, it gets things way down from where they are. united states used to one of the best places in the world when it comes to do business, but now it is one of the worst rating by tax rates. last week the club for growth, conservative supply side group, ran a million dollar campaign against "the donald," saying he is not pro-growth. they will have to eat their words now, aren't they? >> i would say so. this is conservative pro-growth

budget plan, economic tax cutting thing that is not very different from anything jeb bush had put forward or paul ryan for that matter in the past. and this is exactly what people were waiting for from donald trump instead of popping up with insults to put out a plan. i think they have got to say they are very pleasantly surprised. this would pass the house and senate. david: what make this is different from the bush plan or marco rubio -- first of all, the top tax rate is lot lower than the rubio plan. what makes it different, quoting charlie gasparino, he can sell it. this is the donald selling a tax plan very strong supply side, very pro-growth, nobody can sell stuff the way donald trump can, you know. >> riddle me this, republican base. same people complaining about the lower quartile, if not more not paying their fair share in taxes how poor people don't pay fair share in taxes he wants them to make them pay nothing i want people there to eat their words.

david: wants to make sure people in the lower rates move up to the higher rates because there is so much incentive. >> i'm happy to hear this. hilarious to me the same people, one side of their mouth talking about fact that poor people don't pay anything in taxes everybody has skin in the game. suddenly we're endorsing this plan. david: hold on a second. professor, what is not funny the fact during the first four years of the reagan administration, after the tax cuts kicked in, that was 1983 on, we had growth rate of 4% a year as a result of the supply side-effects of those tax cuts. we haven't had anything near that with obama. that is what donald trump could run on. >> well, maybe. maybe not. i mean, i certainly agree with the point -- david: trust me. no maybe about it. he will run on it. if he is successful, that is what he will run on, trust me. >> may i jump in. >> i'm sure he will try. i'm questioning whether it is so convincing. he has done a bunch of things in this plan i think are not so

particularly pro-growth and controversial or other reasons. david: mary-kate wanted to jump in. >> rates at zero -- >> i think in addition to mainstream voters, otherwise like you were pointing out had been slamming him i think he will bring with him, trump, continued media coverage of what a pro-growth again -- agenda is. that is great thing for american people to start hearing about. you're absolutely right he is one guy that can sell it. david: he will sell it with everything he has got. thank you very much. guys. we appreciate it. melissa: houston, we have discovery. nasa releasing evidence of flowing water on mars. fox news's steve harrigan is in miami with all the details. you know what? science nerds myself all around the globe, loving this news today, steve? >> reporter: melissa, a lot of people are excited. they are touting as major discovery.

evidence of orbiter, showing flowing saltwater on hills in mars. narrow in the winter and wider in the summer. for years and years evidence of flowing water. this means that the mars they thought was hostile to life might actually be able to support life. >> did life arise on mars, once? can we find out. lots of intriguing clues about that story. the discovery we'll talk about today, really is most exciting because it is suggesting that it would be possible for there to be life today on mars. >> reporter: this possibility really opens up a great deal of hope in the future when you travel to mars you might not need to bring as much because water is already there. if you do send a manned mission to mars scheduled for 2030, might not only drink water but irrigate. manned mission to mars could be real possibility in the next 20 years. melissa. melissa: wow, steve, thank you so much for that. david: you will love that movie the martian?

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david: every been bit by a crocodile? how about crushed by a spacecraft? believe it or not these are two of 56,000 brand new billing codes that doctors will have to sort through in order to get paid. this all starts on thursday. hospitals and doctors already spent billions getting up to speed on new codes. so how is this going to make health care better and cheaper? here with me is fox business's own gerri willis. former new york lieutenant governor and health care expert, betsy mccaughey. and paul howard.

gerri, i don't know about you, but i'm worried about crocodiles in manhattan, no? >> this is most ridiculous thing ever seen. 68,000 new codes. the medical professionals, doctor, hospitals they all have to know this, if they don't use the right codes they may not get paid. your health care could get held up. you have to ask for the money ahead of a test. going to have done or procedure if you don't get that right away. maybe you have trouble. it is a really incredible bureaucratic nightmare. look, if obama care didn't kill your doctors office, these codes will. david: betsy, that is the point. these thinks are so picayune and so, they're multiplying like rats all these new regulations. donald trump says if he was president this is the sort of thing he would get rid of. play sound bite on 6 "60 minutes." >> government saves so much money on the other side. for the most part it will be a private plan. people will go out and negotiate great plans with lots of different competition, with lots of competitors, with great companies.

they can have their doctors. they can have their plans. they can have everything. david: some people say this is the same kind of pie-in-the-sky salesmanship we heard from president obama. >> absolutely not. i had lunch with donald trump's campaign manager. he laid out the health care plan for me. and i'm not going to reveal it today, because that is the candidate as job. but the fact is, it is very good. it has all of the proper components to unleash free market forces and relief americans of things like these new codes to get government off of our backs and out of our doctors office. david: paul, the fact is, a lot of doctors are shutting their offices right now, saying we just can't continue. the cost of doing business as a doctor, of course is same thing happening with all hospitals. could donald trump come in and straighten this out? >> well, look, up to 50% of physicians don't accept medicaid patients anymore. lots of doctors opting out of obamacare because it is such a

big headache. one of the things donald said the government will pay for this. also we'll drive harder bargains. i want to know what the difference is between that and price controls. idea of market competition, absolutely support that. we need more details how this will operate. david: i want to know who it is comes up with the crazy ruse and regulations that are stopping the whole system, putting doctors out of business? >> centers for medicaid and medicare. that is who put rules in place. talking to doctors for years the old rules required lots and lots of study. all kinds of time spent trying to come up to speed. i don't know how they will do think, look at new rules. betsy has it with her. >> 159 million hours a year of paperwork imposed on the american public by this law alone. >> especially small doctors and small hospital groups literally taking out loans because they're worried about you will at headaches. david: always the small folks hit first by the small and middle sized folks. thank you, gerri, bet sir, paul, appreciate it.

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>> out of the fray. here from another angle. david: look at this, foles. washington nationals season began world series hopes. a new low. superstar bryce harper and jonathan papelbon get into physical altercation. papelbon was suspended four games without pay because of scuffle. joining us for reaction, a former pitcher and fox sports 1 analyst, cj nikows ask. i. have you before been in this position? >> it happens. i never called out a guy for something that happened on field and challenged him to a fight. this is not uncommon occurrence in major league baseball but it is when it happens in the dugout. this kind of thing usually happens behind closed doors maybe in the clubhouse. sometimes happens on the team bus or team plane. guys get angry. david: both of these guys are saying hey, look, more like brothers quarreling. we got over it. it was in heat of moment. yet there is suspension.

should there be suspension if both guys are saying this is just like two brothers fighting? >> first of all, make no mistake about it, these guys do not like each other. that is not going to happen if there was already animosity between the two guys. i did not like the suspension of jonathan papelbon. what that does for me, washington nationals have picked sides. we're on the side of bryce harper and not on side of jonathan papelbon. they probably both deserve blame. when i gets to the dugout, you have to be kidding, you have to be kidding. do you want to go, i will fing go right knew. they went after it. they both deserve equal blame. one guy getting suspension is not right. david: how does this affect rest of the season? >> washington nationals are done. they had a huge disappointing season. they were expected to win the division. they did not. it has completely fallen apart. we'll see how it affects off-season what they do with the manager and some of their

players. david: cj, thank you very much. appreciate you being here. >> pleasure. melissa: donald trump and media are taking turns attacking carly fiorina's record as ceo of hp, carly fiorina has been climbing in the polls. in a new "wall street journal" poll, carly fiorina tied for third place behind fellow anti-establishment donald trump and dr. ben carson. do voters really care about the nuances of carly's corporate record? judy miller, manhattan institute adjunct fellow joins. mary-kate and julie roginsky here on the set. let me ask you guys. this is one of those things first impressions mean everything. the public sort of forms their idea about what they think about a candidate and then once you parse the details after that, it almost doesn't have as much of an impact. judy miller, let you go first. i don't want to argue whether her tenure as ceo was great or not, because you look at the record, people could cut it both ways clearly. >> well they, maybe you can put it both ways but the academic

and business communities are savage in their assessment of their stewardship. melissa: does it have impact? voters have in their mind she was powerful ceo? >> eventually has impact when you get down to really looking at someone's record. they're just looking at carly fiorina, thank goodness, republican woman are looking at that line of men in blue suits saying thank goodness there is a female face there. melissa: julie, judy said when you get looking at a candidate's record, i don't think most voters do that. >> what is interesting? remember dan, "that '70s show," content and originality. nobody cares about content, or. ben carson a brilliant surgeon, saying bizarre things on stump. donald trump, exhibit a. carly fiorina i'm impressed by as candidate, she is erudite and

impressive and drawing contrast with hillary clinton other men empty public republican field can not. even when she is saying about planned parenthood, nobody seems to care. melissa: i don't know. there was a lot in there that i didn't agree with. let's stay on topic. mary-kate, when i say a narrative gets established about a candidate it is very hard within that campaign to change it. you know donald trump, big show which guy. carly fiorina, powerful feisty ceo, even if you drill down on details tell the public, here is what she did wrong, shares weren't down, oh, numbers. i know she is strong, powerful ceo. >> chris christie in the last debate hit exactly what you're talking about, listen to you two, arguing about your resume's. we don't care. we wan a pro-growth plan going forward. my advice to her, be more precise in her answers, be more careful with the facts when responding to these negative stories because she hasn't been

so far. second, i think she do what donald trump did today and put out a pro-growth plan for the economy going forward so she can say you people care about the past. i'm looking at the future. melissa: okay. >> that would be a smart move i think. melissa: meanwhile both hillary clinton and carly fiorina sat down with chuck todd on "meet the press" yesterday. they weren't exactly treated same way. >> reminder, there is whole conspiracy theories out there, there are no limitations to this interview. you know. >> as far as i know, that's true. [laughing] >> footage you described as best is reenactment. videos, people that made videos admitted stock footage but you wept along said plan the paint hood. >> chuck, chuck, chuck. do you think this is not happening? does hillary clinton think this is not happening? melissa: so, you have two candidates that are both under attack for pretty serious things about what they have been saying. there is even some similarities. they're both being attacked for not being truthful.

but, attitude of the questioner seemed to be totally different. julie, do you agree with that? >> i don't know. he went at her pretty hard, hillary, server obfuscated, went at her with her weakest point, trustworthiness with respect to the server. did exactly what chris wallace did on fox, called her out for inaccuracies continues to say about the planned parenthood videos. i think he was pretty hard on both. melissa: judy, do you think he was tough on both? >> i think he was tough on both. we heard part of the interview. carly fiorina said leadership is performance. she is female version of donald trump. she does better than hillary on responding to barbs like that. melissa: mary-kate. final word. >> she is the shiny new object the press goes after. they want to show they're tough and stand up to her to see how she does. he was tough on both. melissa: thanks guys, interesting. david: for the record, i don't

think he was tough on both. warren buffett suited up this sunday. not for investor conference. we'll tell you who the billionaire was all in for this weekend.

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>> warren buffett suited up this meeting you may think it was for a board meeting when b actually for a miami dolphins football game. >> the billionaire went all out in his pants, he was rooting for the defensive tackle for the dolphins. he mentors this guy for off the field financial advice. just signed a $190 million deal, ain't bad to have warren buffett when you have that kind of money. >> i wonder what he's paying buff photo commission. >> i don't know. by the way, -- >> maybe he wanted the uniform. that was the payment. >> with a market like those, and just take a look.

got slammed and look at the nasdaq people's no. down over 3%. is warren buffett going in there and buying? i just think -- i don't think we've seen the end of this but that's just me. >> i don't know i bet he's got some favorites that pick up at certain prices. that's what the big guys do. anyway prehistoric and reward starts right now. >> stocks got crushed today. the dow at this key level you can see closing below 16,000 my colleague adam shapiro has information on the new york stock exchange. so, adam, five days down in a row, what are the stocks that sell the most. >> well, some of the sectors we saw, the s&p 500 fall health care was a big loss. i mean when you look at what happened like valiant today, they got hit because of an alleged subpoena from congress over price gouging for their pharmaceuticals. this is more of what we saw