building to building though authorities say the lone gunman has been taken down. we don't know whether he is alive or dead. melissa: no, we don't. gerri willis joins us. she has latest details as we know them. >> that's right, melissa. still no word how many might have died in this tragic, tragic shooting. now being told by the sheriff's office seven to 10. there is little narrowing on the number but we don't have a real number yet. as you know, david basically broke down the timeline how this all went down, starting at 10:35 west coast time, 1:35 east coast time. in the interim, the shooter going from room to room, classroom to classroom, shooting indiscrimminantly and ultimately a tweet from one of the students, who said this, students are running everywhere. holy god. so now the situation under control. the shooter, in custody, as i understand it, we don't know the

shooter's condition. but we are looking to find that out of course. we're checking all of this. the local fire department telling people to stay away from the area in a tweet. it has been an amazing day for the response teams there. we had 75 police cars. some police in their police cars, some in their own cars coming into the area. helicopters above as you saw. even the bureau of alcohol and fire and tobacco coming in trying to save the day because this is a very rural area. david said there are 3300 full-time student the there are 11,000 part "time" student there. this is a little bigger than you may have first imagined. 16,000 part time students. you see what is going on the street as people wait to find out more details. i will be right back as soon as we get some. melissa. melissa: gerri willis, thank you so much. david? david: we should mention by the way that about an hour after

this shooting occurred of course a lot of parents, not only parents of those at umpqua community college but parents of kids who were at other schools, at public schools, around the area, they received automated phone calls, they were sent out to parent at roseburg school district, referencing the shooting, saying that all schools are safe but parents, not only the parents of those at the community college but all around were very concerned about what was happening. we should also mention that the students, one tremendous relief is now that students are being contacted by police directly. they had been in a lockdown situation. they had been, a lot of them just cowering in their closets, hiding behind locked doors. those doors have now been being knocked on by police who assured them they are safe now, for whatever reason. we know the shooter has been incapacitated. whether he is alive, in custody or dead we're not sure. we're getting those details. we will be getting more this

hour. our own blake burman is in washington, d.c. blake, what is the response from the federal government? >> reporter: i can tell you, david, president obama has indebeen briefed at this point. he was briefed earlier this afternoon by homeland security advisor, lisa monaco. it has been a busy day for those two as monaco briefed president earlier today on impending storm in the atlantic. as far as it goes with this tragic shooting in oregon, according to a white house official at the president's request, he has asked lisa monaco his homeland security advisor, to continue to give him updates, at least folks from the administration throughout the day. as this was coming in, the white house press secretary josh earnest was up at microphone giving his daily briefing and he was asked if he had information about what he might know. in all fairness to earnest this was unfolding as he was up there at the podium.

so he couldn't really give any sort of information or any sort of details. he saying incidents like these continue to be of great frustration for the president. as far as federal law enforcement goes, no such response. we're couple hours into this. so far nothing along the level from federal law enforcement as to any potential involvement they might have or what they might believe at this very early hour. david? david: blake burman, thank you very much. melissa. melissa: all right. joining us now on the phone is oregon state senator jeff cruz. thank you so much for joining us. is there any additional details you can give us right now? >> well, first off as far as law enforcement response, i have good information that oregon state police and the county sheriff's office along with roseburg city police really done an outstanding job in response

to this and the situation is under control. so what we know at this point in time, basically the only solid number we have, number of 20 injured. number of casualties has ranged in reports i have received anywhere from seven to 15 and, so, you know, it is just speculation to know what those real numbers are. we know it is no longer an active shooting situation but lives heard reports that, that shooter either in custody are or he is down. so, quite honestly, from the perspective of law enforcement at this point in time while -- investigation is probably -- [inaudible]. too much information until they have certainty in what it is they are releasing. melissa: and as we read more about this school, the number of

students at the school, there is about 3,000 full time. 16,000 that are part time. what can you tell us about the student body lear? >> the student body, find a lot of part-time student and even some of the full time, douglas county is a timber county and we, we are basically in about 25% unemployment. so a lost student at this college, people going back to try to get retrained for other jobs at this point in time. so it is probably an older student population than maybe normal school wld be. it is a very rural setting. it is on the banks of a river. there is a lot of space between the buildings, one of the reasons it is taking them a long time to do the triage and go through all the buildings because there are a large number of them with a lot of space between them. david: senator, i don't want to

get in the a gun control debate, god forbid, i want to know if the particular area where the community college is where a lot of hunters walk around with guns, somebody if they had openly carrying a weapon, whether that would be unusual or not, allowing somebody to get it on campus? >> i do know that umpqua community college is a gun-free zone. so you're not even supposed to do conceal carry there. so, as far as hunting, there is no hunting goes on the college campus. there are a lot of deer there but no hunting that goes on there. so it is really not, it is not a hunting area and, like i said it's a gun-free zone. which tend to be invitation for a lot of people. i don't really want to get into the politics of that. david: no, no. i was just curious in terms of evidentiary background of the thing whether it would have been

unusual for somebody to be seen carrying a weapon since it is a gun-free zone answer is presumably yes? >> absolutely, absolutely. it is easy to conceal a gun, isn't it? at this point, i'm assuming got to be, with that many shots in a short period of time, got to be automatic weapon i would think but we don't know any of details yet. and, i fully respect state police lieutenant and sheriff this charge of this situation, they're really good at their job, and iuite honestly don't expect to get a lot of detailed information until they have done all of their background check with everybody involved. melissa: we've watched video of student leaving campus on buses. we've been told that they have been told to leave their cars behind. that they're going to the douglas county fairgrounds.

about how far is that from the campus? >> the fairgrounds is about five miles from the campus. so, it is a short ride down to the -- [inaudible]. basically only place you can to triage a population that large. david: i'm wondering what, tell us about, you mentioned that these student are generally speaking older students. some, because many of them have gone back to school because of their unemployment situation. is it, are there however a lot of parent that live in the community as well, parents of the students and how are they being contacted? >> there are, and, obviously, you know, now that the all-clear is being sounded, i think, one of my employees, his daughter is in college. she doesn't have a phone. so, she is on pins and needles

themselves. i'm sure at this point this time, most of the students have had the opportunity to contact their parent by cell phone. david: i just have to ask, i assume this has never happened before but have you heard of any shooting at a school in your area before? >> yes, we have. we had in 2006 there was a shooting at a high school. that was a sgular incident. nothing like this. melissa: all right. senator, thank you so much for joining us. we appreciate your time right now. we'll lt you get back to your community. david: appreciate it, senator. let's bring in tom ruskin, former nypd detective. and a former army special forces officer now with the heritage foundation. the schools are among the most open, vulnerable environments in our country, no? >> yes, absolutely. most of them like this community college looks like you could

roam between the buildings there. is no sense of security and no form of security like in certain high schools in the country where you have magnetometers, security officers, police officers, manning those magnetometers. when you deal with a school or high school of this proportion or sandy hook where you can move from building to building to building pretty free, it appears this shooter could come in with multiple weapons and use them to hurt all these people that they have hurt today. melissa: tom, at the same time, you know it feels like we hear about these didn't a lot. in fact fbi statistics that there have been 12 episodes of active gunmen in higher institutions between 2000, 2013. feels like it happens a lot more than it does it is so shocking. in my own childrens school they now drill for this. >> you have to do this. our company now works with

schools around this country to do active shooter scenarios. and to improve their security standards. so, in schools in westchester and surrounding tri-state area what they're doing now, is not only having these drills, but they are improving the security methods in the school. they're teaching the kids to huddle in the corner. to lock the doors. the doors are being more secure. they're having a way of notifying the children and the teachers when it's all clear. that is what i think we're seeing in videos now. as we're seeing this overhead video apparently from a chopper, we're not only seeing the police are clearing the parking lot and having kids leave their cars behind to possibly check the cars for any kind of weapons and or explosive devices but we're also seeing that they're clearing each building one by one. david: steve, we have the federal government chiming in with various notes of condolences over twitter and

other sources. i think back to the virginia tech massacre when george burke was president. there were 32 people killed at this particular juncture and the federal government came in in several instances to tighten security around the country. can you tell us about that and whether that was kind of a fruitless endeavor, or whether it actually has led to live being saved? >> i think the federal government has a role in insuring that there is some standard that there are assets available to schools when they need them, to do the kind of improvements that my colleague was just talking about. everybody realizes we've got to do better. we need the training. federal government can help with that. if in no other way just to provide examples proof training that schools -- david: pardon me, steve. you can only help if they ask,

right? you can't enforce this upon the nation? >> they shouldn't. there is a big difference between the preparation levels in some areas than others. you don't want to go in and pest with something that is already effective. so you let those community make the requests. you let them tailor it for their particular situations and the problem is we start getting ahead before we have the information. i'm glad the federal government hasn't said anything but condolences yet. we don't know what the situation is. why this guy did it. what happens he used. none of that is publicly known yet. it is time to wait. let the investigators do their job. let the first-responders take care of the victims. deal with the families, then start to make the decisions on how to make things better. melissa: we're hearing now there will be a press conference in just about 15 minutes, 4:30 eastern i am. we'll hear governor of the state

and oregon state police. real quick before we go, tom, how do you training in a school? my kids are in kindergarten, third grade, they have been through it, how do you do it without scaring them? >> it is grade specific and school specific and to steve's point, which is a very good point, the federal government and state governments have to free up money to allow these schools to protect themselves and to allow the schools to take the proper precautions. you train the children in a way that's, sort of friendly to whatever age they are. and if they're older, you can go into more detail with them. if they're younger, make it sort of a game. you train them periodically in this game. melissa: yeah all right. thanks to both of you. we'll go to our own jo ling kent. she is in the newsroom and looking at response in social media where these things happen this is how word and response spreads most quickly. jo, what have you seen?

>> getting responses from federal government and presidential candidates weighing in on their resack actions. -- reactions. jeb bush tweeting, praying forum quo community college victims and families. douglas count sheriff tweeting this. counselors are available for students and staff and families if they need them at douglas county fairground in douglas hall. they're sending students and staff and families together to perhaps with first reactions and thoughts to horrific tragedy. we have a photo from michael sullivan on ground. senator ron widen saying,

oregonians want them to know we're praying for all of them. jeff merkley, my hearts and prayers are with the victims and family the just a note, according to theorg say, every town, this is a 34th time since sandy hook and newtown, that some some students, either one or more have been killed by gunfire. this is the 45th school shooting this year so far. guys? david: jo ling kent, thank you very much. by the way the press conference will be in about 12 minutes from now. we will have the oregon state police give us details of the criminal investigation in all this governor kate brown of the social aspects of all this the governor and the oregon stout police coming up in just a moment. the mass shooting at oregon community college, umpqua community college. many fatalities. many injuries. details and a press conference coming right up. ♪ ♪ their beard salve is made from ♪ ♪ sustainable tea tree oil and kale...

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>> mass shooting at a college campus in oregon. our own gerri willis has details. gerri, what have we learned? >> melissa, unbelievable. ap reporting that former president where the community college took place, killing at least seven people. they say the school had, he was only security officer on duty at the time. so when the shooting took place, the former community college president was fellow who was on duty as the only security officer. he says, the man's named, joe olson, there was big debate on campus whether the school should have armed security officers. the college had three training exercises with local law agencies in the past two years, saying, this is a quote from the

a. , the associated press, you can never be prepared for something like this. he was not armed at the time. not armed when the shooting took place. just, one other quick update, i will get back to you here, melissa, we have update on the number of folks at hospital. in springfield, oregon, six victims, two women, four men. one of the women is 18. locally, at roseburg mercy medical center there are nine patients. so 15 folks at the hospital now, and we're just learning that the only security guard on duty had no gun. back to you. melissa: wow. gerri, tell us one more time, the security guard was the former president of the university? did i hear you right? >> so, this is community college, right. 3300 folks who were there full-time. 11 who were there part time. he was retired at his position

at umpqua community college. working as part-time security guard. he was only security guard working at time of the shooting. he was carrying no firearm. there was big debate on the college campus. david: wow, for good reason it was a big debate. melissa: that's amazing. jeff, are you with us, retired fbi agent, jeff lanza? >> yes, i'm with. >> what is your reaction? did you hear that report? >> yeah, i did. around the country most security departments at colleges will not carry guns. that is fairly normal. if you have campus police at larger universities and colleges, they will have guns obviously because they're law enforcement officers. to put guns in hands of all security departments around the nation, is not feasible, nor is it something that's really recommended by law enforcement. david: but it clearly became an issue jeff at the community college. it was discussed and apparently debated, fact they only had three training exercises the past few years?

>> right. well,. >> there is a whole lot more to it than handing a person a gun. you have to have training. make sure the persons are qualified to use a weapon. all the security officers are. a lot of people, especially a place, you're not near a big city. you don't expect something like this to happen. you never know when it is going to happen but you're not expecting in that type of environment that you're going to need to have armed security officer. david: you're not. on the other hand they had a shooting at a high school back in 2007. it is a gun-free zone. i would suspect vulnerability of gun-free zones. you have criminals or murders, worse, come in know there is nobody or law enforcement security person there with a gun? >> well, that's correct. gun-free zone is merely a suggestion for what --

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good idea, did you only have one shooter? where he or she was shooting from. and what happened and the trail of this carnage that happened at that university. david: when you're in the teens, tom of the number of fatalities, does that automatically assume an automatic weapon? >> semiautomatic weapon most likely and probably multiple weapons because, the chance of someone being able to reload that quickly, to kill that many people, is, greatly diminished. david: by the way, we just had former fbi guy on suggesting that it was not unusual to have just one security officer, in this case, an unarmed security officer, also in this case the former, the retired president of the community college which you say what? >> i think it is time that former law enforcement, former military, used to carrying a gun and are trained in how to carry a gun and protect themselves as well as other people, start

being hired by these universities. that the universities somehow get federal money to be able to better protect themselves. melissa: i want to remind folks that are watching right now, we are awaiting a news conference from the governor and from local law enforcement. we'll bring that to you live as soon as it happens. it should be getting underway any minute. meantime jesse jane duff is standing by as well. what is your response or reaction to what you've heard? >> first of all i think every american has the right to defend themselves. and when you're in situation where you can not defend yourself, you are defenseless, it is easier for me to carry a weapon, a gun to defend myself, than for me to carry a police officer with me. i believe it was not fair statement to say that we don't have the capability of training these security officers. there is 194,000 united states marines. every last one of us was trained in weapons, from the day we joined till the day we get out, we qualify and we learn weapons

safety. to suggest that a security officer is walking around with a shirt and a badge, what does that tell me? that he or she can not defend me and i have to defend myself. david: jessie, this was, this was a gun-free zone, this entire community campus was a gun-free zone. >> yes. david: therefore it would be impossible, unless there was some kind of special provision made, for anybody to carry a gun, even the security officer on deck there. so, will this, will this make people reconsider the idea of gun-free zones, as places where people are too vulnerable? >> i wish that would be the case but unfortunately our white house is usually had a history of coming out, now discussing making stricter gun laws. instead of allowing people like myself to defend myself, they decide that they have to have stricter gun laws so people like myself can not defend myself. what it boils down to, citizens who are honest, who have integrity and clean record should have the capacity to

defend themselves while going to school on campus. i don't care what the remote location is. even more so, because it takes longer for law enforcement to show up to save their lives. nobody in this nation should be defenseless or helpless. we should be able to protect our own life, the most sacred gift god has given us. melissa: tom, your response to that? >> i you know, i understand gun-free zones. i have no problem with gun-free zones but that doesn't mean we shouldn't have security people trained, law enforcement, trained, former law enforcement, trained military to jessie jane's point, former military could be hired. give them jobs coming out. military to protect these types of institutions. by the way what we're looking at on left-hand side is crime scene. on the right-hand side we're looking at setup for the press conference. it was expected to start about four minutes ago. you can understand in the chaos of the situation why this might have have been delayed.

or gone state police making a statement as well as governor of oregon, kate brown, talking about specifics. we're still not clear as to condition of the shooter, whether he or she was killed during the course of a confrontation with police or just incarcerated by police or detained. we still don't know the exact number, but we're hearing now from 13 to 15 people killed. although these numbers are constantly changing. we're getting numbers from various sources including the associated press and others. all details, a good number of them will presumably be answered at the presser. >> tom, let me ask you, you have people at home watching this, parents who watch with their kids in school and teachers and principals and school officials watching, what is the first thing that you would want them to do in reaction to this tomorrow? everybody wants to stop it from happening again or at their own school? what is the first thing you tell them? >> start to drill. train the students and teachers

what to do in active shooter scenario. basically do, security surveys of their campuses, of their schools, to determine where they're weak. and how they can strengthen it. then try to get monies, either through a federal grant or other monies to be able to accomplishing these goals. to continue to drill. it appears this community college, even though it is in a rural area was not properly protected. and could have contributed to the lives that were lost today. david: let's bring in bo dietl. he of course former nypd detective, fox news contributor. bo, we're doing too much of this, too many damn school shootings. you heard, i don't know if you did hear, one security sister they had on this particular campus was retired president of the community college who wasn't carrying a weapon. in this day and age, what do you think about that? >> well that is most ridiculous thing. we're starting to see now every other week, shooting, shootings. times have changed.

this, look at this college. 3,000 student in the middle of nowhere. who would ever think that would be suck jack of one of these mass killings, but could be anywhere. could be isis or deranged individual wanting a body count. if you have some sort of a weapon there you could stop the person from killing. no one can stop them if you don't have a firearm. everyone is against firearms. the whole facts are security, preparing yourself for something happening in any school anywhere in america now. the hospitals preparing themselves for disaster. also, the security surveys, assessments that you do on colleges, lock down in the room. how you lock those doors. there are cop zinc, technologies where every off-duty cop could be notified immediately. something going on, you can have the response of retired off-duty officers, everybody could come a running. there are a lot of different

things you got to do. we have to deal with it. it is real sad day when you have a college like this, when your children are going to college you figure they're the safest they can be. but it is shocking and scary when it happens middle america. we have to call it middle america because it is in the middle of nowhere. if it can happen there it can happen anywhere. melissa: tom ruskin, your response to that? >> i agree with bo, i think it is time for schools to start training and locking themselves down. time for people not to be scared of people who are trained to carry guns, carrying guns and protecting themselves and their neighborhoods in their communities. david: by the way, before we leave, tom, you were involved in at least, investigating if not shoring up the security at a school that had been involved in a shooting. can't say exactly where that was for security reasons but what did you do with that school after the shooting? >> what we did is they found money after a shooting.

they have basically secured their school to the point where if anyone tries to in who is unauthorized will not get n they have alarm systems throughout the school. they have a lockdown system and clearance system. so the police can watch on real-time video, remotely of where a shooter may be in the school, and they drill about every month. it is not announced drills. it is spontaneous drills that they just done a moment's notice. melissa: okay. >> yes. melissa: stay where you are. we want to go back to gerri willis right now. she has an update from the newsroom. gerri, what do you have? >> melissa, i've been following the the or gone i don't know blog. it has -- oregonian blog, it has been updated all afternoon on the story. almost aside, quoting 9/11 -- 911 dispatch, they report that the shooter was shot and shot dead. they also report that the shooter was male and acting alone, that he may have only been in one classroom. now i'm going to repeat, a lot

of these initial reports are wrong. i mean it happens. we'll certainly know more after the press conference, presumably the identity of the shooter which we haven't heard anything about, but this is being reported on the oregonian blog. presumably folks getting the information first-hand. i want to bring it to you because we've had dearth of information, absolutely nothing on the shooter. that's what i've got. david: tom ruskin, there are reports, i have seen them before i arrived on set, in fact all the shootings took place in one area but it appeared we were looking at shell casings outside on one of the walkways. didn't it appears that way to you? >> it appears, you see yellow-tinted things, indicate to me they are numbers. numbers normally indicate shell casings. what the police will haven't did i do, not only photograph the scene for crime scene purposes, for evidentiary purposes and learning purposes down the road but they will also, test those

shell casings to see if the same fingerprints are on the shell casings. david: conceivable, if the shooter is dead and shot dead by the police it is conceivable those could have been shellcations from police weapons, correct? >> either there or someone could have assisted this person. what happens if you find a second fingerprint on some of those shell casings which finds someone loaded magazines. you may have someone assisted person before the shooting who may still be in the wind. melissa: bo dietl let me bring you in to react to that. >> tom is exactly right. during the investigation, even though you know the guy is dead this is only the beginning. this will be tracked down. all his social media will be checked. all his computers will be checked, his cell phone. on top of that you have to make sure there is not a conspiracy involved in this. if there is another shooter involved with this right now kind of mass confusion. the death toll 15 down to seven, back and forth. this is all preliminary stuff. this will be fully investigated.

but i think the bottom line from everything we get out of this, we're dealing with something today we have never dealt with before with all these mat shootings in schools and all that. they have to be dealt with. i mentioned before this cop sync. unbelievable thing. letting cops no in real time what is going on in a school facility. letting police have on the smartphone, exactly what is going on, where the location is. there are so many technologies we have to spend people to spend money to enhance security for our kids, especially in our educational facilities, whether it be schools or colleges. this something you have to deal with. people don't like to spend money on security because it is a non-tangible thing. but, these are peoples lives. you have to minimize it. melissa: tom, you talk about the school you were at and lockdown procedure they put in place and cameras they put around. that is reasonable in an urban setting where things are locked in but as you look at pictures

of this campus and all the open space and not even a fence in sight best you can possibly do is lock outside of buildings but at best students need electronic card in order to get in, you will never truly be able to lock down a sprawling fcility like this. >> correct. melissa: i'm sorry. answer that in a second. we'll listen to the sheriff right now. >> douglas county emergency communications center received phone calls from the college reporting an active shooter in one of the classrooms at the college. officers from around the county immediately responded to the college and upon arriving there, they located the shooter in one of the buildings. officers engaged that suspect. there was an exchange of

gunfire. the shooter threat was neutralizeed and officers continued to sweep the campus, looking for other threats. we have confirmed that there is, confirmed injuries and there are confirmed fatalities. at this point it is very active scene. it is a very active investigation. that is really all at this point i'm prepared to share or i can share. >> oregon attorney general said 30 tine dead, can you confirm that? >> i can not. i heard varying numbers. i don't want to report on a number that is inaccurate. i can tell you that we have got a tremendous amount of law enforcement help. i have the oregon state police assisting. we have all the local agencies including the roseburg police, some of the other smaller municipalities, the sheriff's office, the fbi, the u.s.

marshals service. a lot of support in this investigation. >> can you tell us anything about the shooter or what weapon was used? >> at this point i can not. i can tell you the shooter was a male subject and i have no further information beyond that. >> is the shooter alive or dead. >> the shooter is deceased. >> how many wounded? >> i'm sorry. >> can we confirm how many wounded? >> i can not at this time, no. >> what is it like for your deputies in community of this size where everyone knows someone on the campus? >> i'm sure it is very frightening for a lot of people that were responding. you're right, this is a small community. it's a community college, so a lot of our friend and family attend this college. and it was a situation that was, there was no answer for quite some time. i personally know of a number of

people that i work with that had very strong concerns about the welfare of loved ones that are going to school there. >> can you firm that there is post on facebook page warning this might happen, stay away from school? >> i haven't heard that comment. i can't comment on that. >> was this contained to one classroom? >> at this point i can't tell you that. it is under investigation and i don't know. >> can you tell us where he was shot? what part of the campus? was it in the classroom where the shootings occurred? >> where he was -- >> shooter was shot. >> i don't know at this point. i know officers engaged him somewhere near a classroom but i can't tell you if it was in the classroom or outside of a classroom. >> do you know if he fired on police officers? >> my understanding he did. >> does the 13 dead include shooter or -- [inaudible] >> i didn't, i didn't say there was, how many fatalities there were at this point. i don't know. the shooter is deceased.

>> can you confirm -- >> i can tell you again, i have the district attorney here and we have activated the major crimes team. and so, alongwith the major crimes team and other agencies i mentioned we will be conducting a thorough and i'm sure it will be a rather lengthy investigation into why and how many and all the answers that we can possibly determine. >> can you tell us are those helicopters taking people to the hospital or? >> no. i believe they're press helicopters. i don't know. >> one more time with the type of weapon, are you saying rifle or handgun or anything like that. >> i don't know. >> sheriff hand lynn, was in the science building or majority of it? >> i don't know about that. >> national spotlight suddenly on roseburg, people not familiar with the community, can you talk a little bit about roseburg so

people nationwide can understand what kind of place this is? >> sure. douglas county is a timber community. we have roughly 107,000 people that live in the county here. umpqua community college is only higher education facility that we have in douglas county. there are other community colleges in surrounding counties and of course the university of oregon would be closest university to this community. there is a lot of students that attend the college that are either in their first couple of years of higher education or a lot of misplaced employees that have gone back to school to learn new trades and get an education. >> is fairly peaceful community? very friendly, low crime rate. >> it's a peaceful community. we have our share of crime like any small community but,

certainly this is a huge shock to the entire community to have this level of crime and incident occur in our college or school system. >> are you happy with the response of law enforcement in this situation. >> i am extremely happy with the response. i've got fellow sheriffs here that have been through similar situations up in the valley come to provide support and assistance. like i said the oregon state police have provided us with a tremendous amount of resources and i couldn't be happier. >> how many people do you think are on campus trying to investigate the situation? >> superintendent, do you know? >> i couldn't -- >> i'm guessing i'm guessing we have well over a hundred detectives and officers, uniformed officers out there. >> were any officers injured? >> no report of any of the officers injured. >> what do you suggest the public do right now. >> i'm sorry?

>> what do you suggest public do right now? should they avoid the area or? >> my suggestion that they think of the family of the victims and , be aware of their anguish and think of them first, the families of the victims are the ones that are going to have the most difficult days ahead. >> -- on campus when the incident occurred or was osc first on the scene? >> i'm not sure which officers arrived first. there was two or three of them i believe arrived about the same time. >> -- think there might be explosives or there was a reason to sweep the whole campus? >> that is part of the investigation to try to determine if that's a threat. we haven't had any indication that it is at this time. >> is there any indication that there is anyone else involved in the shooting?

>> that, it is too early in the investigation to make that determination. >> do you have armed security guards on campus. >> do what? >> do you have armed security guards on campus? >> no, i do not. >> [inaudible] >> we have a tactical response team, yes. >> were they the one who is shot? >> no it was responding officers got there first. >> have families been starting to get notified about the deceased in this incident? >> that i'm not sure at this point. >> do you know whether shooter was student at community college. >> sorry? >> do you know whether the shooter was a student at community college? >> i do not. >> are local hospital handling casualties or are they going elsewhere. >> that is question for them. i haven't heard how overloaded they heard with injured. i heard a rumor a couple of patients were shipped to other area hospitals or out of area hospital. >> practically, do you have a pio or another presser scheduled after this. >> i do.

corporal hudson is here in the crowd and he will put out more information as it becomes available. >> what kind of next up for the investigation? >> currently we've got, we've got more of the compound to do a thorough search of. we have to process the scene or scenes where the shooting occurred. we have a parking lot full of vehicles out there that we have to process. and search. obviously we have just a ton of interviews to conduct. >> just a moment. my pio wanted to -- >> 3:00 back here. >> still to early to know all of the facts. i'm joined by my fellow oregonians and americans in profound dismay and heart break at this tragedy at umpqua community college. facts are still emerging. we know now there were casualties and confirmed

injuries. our top priority now is the medical treatment for victims and the security of the campus. we have confirmation that the shooter is deceased. he is a 20-year-old male. our thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families. we are holding the community of douglas county in our hearts today. the work that first-responders have done is heroing. to our first-responders, thank you for your work as this community reels from grief. i am leaving now to head to roseburg to be with the community there. oregon state superintendent rich evans is here to make additional remarks. please take care. >> the first 911 calls came in, in the roseburg area at 10:38

this morning. all law enforcement in the area responded immediately to the campus. the active shooter was engaged by law enforcement and later confirmed to be deceased. our number one right right now is make sure the scene is secure and the victims are treated and making sure we have a complete crime scene and that we continue to make sure that the there are no additional threats. the oregon state police is combining with all the local law enforcement including the douglas county sheriffs office making sure we are doing all the things that the community needs to us to do. we set up a command center. we set up an additional area for media relations. our pio is there, lieutenant bill fugate to assist you in the future. we're working through a family unification center. as we know the families in these type of events become very

fragile. we make sure we're communicating what we need to with them as we move forward. these, i would like to remind the media these scenes are very dynamic and they change. our number one priority making sure all victims are safe. additional information may take some time for to us make sure we get that information accurately to you but our number one priority right now is making sure we take care of victims, families and the community of roseburg. i would like to thank the first-responders that were responded today in a timely manner and thank you. >> sir we'll not be able to take anymore questions today. so there is a command center in roseburg. hopefully we'll be able to talk with you there. thanks. david: all right. that is the situation from oregon. we first heard from douglas count sheriff john hanlin giving details what we know which is very sparse at the moment but we did get confirmation that the shooter is 20 years old and he is dead. he was shot in shootout with

first sonders described as heroic in responding to this. they got there after multiple deaths as many as 13 deaths. we heard from kate brown and oregon state police both confirming essentially what the sheriff said. for a small police department, melissa, to respond as quickly and as, with as deadly force as they did, was very heroic. melissa: some of the other details that we got from both of those press conferences, it is too early to determine if there was anyone else involved. we were told by douglas county sheriffs to think of families and victims, to be aware of their anguish. think of them first at this time. they described it as generally peaceful community. tom ruskin has been standing by and listening to this with us. he is a former nypd detective. what stuck out to you from what you heard? >> well, i mean that it is an active scene and for the sheriff to know all those details now is quite soon and as bo and i both

side it is going to be an active investigation for a while. i don't know what the resources of that local department is but they will have the help of the state police, atf, the federal government, in assisting them in any investigation, or any forensics that have to be done. they're going to go through this person's house. they will get a search warrant. they will go through the computers, cell phones. they will see if there is any postings. is there anything law enforcement can learn in the future from this shooting. as we were talking about before, it looks like there were one or two or three different shooting scenes from the evidence we've seen from the overhead helicopter shots. david: all right. we have to take a break but again, the details that we know now are scant. we do know that there were at least a dozen deaths according to the people on the ground there and we also know that the shooter involved in this, 20-year-old male, is dead. all of the latest on this tragic situation as it unfolds in oregon. a lot of questions unanswered.

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enforcement officials. tom ruskin, thank you very much. this story is far from over. so many questions, so few answers at moment. we'll unravel some of those answers for you right here on fbn. keep it here. "risk & reward" starts now. deirdre: a press conference just wrapping in oregon. we do have new details on the tragic shooting at a community college. what we know now, a lone gunman, 20 years old, shooting at umpqua community college in roseburg, oregon. that started around 10:30 a.m. local time this morning. i'm deirdre bolton. with me more details, more context. my colleague, gerri willis. you were listening at same time i was to the press conference, what stood out? >> i have to tell you we were very curious about the shooter. the spokesman confirming that the shooter was neutralized. sounded like