joining us tomorrow night, congressman mike pompeo among our guests. please join us. good night from new york. ♪ kennedy: well, hello there, welcome. let's bring it right in. i'm watching curious flourish of two titans oddly tethered in their request for the white house. hillary clinton and donald trump's poll numbers, you say mimic each other as though they were doing some postmodern mime dance on either side of a fake pane ofglass? nbc "wall street journal" poll shows upper burst for egomaniacs. trump has 25% of the republican support. but that persistent and quiet storm, dr. ben carson continues to slice away at the competition

with his gentle scalpel. he is three points behind trump with rubio in third at 13%. only other elephant still in the double-digit safari. carly fiorina is running low on ink. lost four valuable points since the last "wall street journal," nbc outing. press only takes an interest in they were after solid debate performance. jeb does slightly bert. ted cruz has pixie dust in the bloated leather bag in fourth place in the poll. carly and ted they make up what i call the peloton. anyone below jeb is sadly doomed. i mourned promise of what once was, yes i'm talking to you, senator paul. in the same poll hillary is ahead 49% ahead of st. bernard sanders. she has enough of a cushion to be pushing joe biden out of contention entirely. he still may get in the race but he will have to finesse the and

massage of timing like i did when i visited a beauty parlor in laos. they have same problems with unfavorability and trustworthiness. their numbers are almost identical. in one "quinnepiac poll" clinton at 57% for being not honest and trustworthy. while trump was at 58%. they are a pair of behemoths with massive name recognition with more bag badge than a samsonite factory. both may be respective party's nominees. he is the guy a lot of people don't admit she agree with. she is no one they agree with but they can't admit there is no one better. they will breathe same hot air and in tandem until november. we have the next big thing in exercise, gillian michaels. "star wars" tickets went on sale last night and broke the internet. we'll analyze the new phenomenon and new preview.

ronda rousey is getting in on gender gap debate that j law ignited. we'll separate fact from fiction. separate from the ordinary. join me tonight. i'm kennedy. ♪ kennedy: hillary and trump are still on top of the polls. what do they have in common? let me ask three brilliant saviors of humanity i paul party panel. jimmy fale, charles cocoa author the conservative manifesto. great to see you. charles in nantucket. jimmy's suit jacket is blinding. andy i start with you. >> excellent. kennedy: why are hillary and trump's poll numbers related? what do you make of that. >> both parties get what they deserved. trump is republican id filled by talk radioesque blather

masquerading as substance. hillary is ultimate if you believe being right on issues means you're a good person you can then be a bad person which is exactly what she is. it's a very, very liberal thing. when i lived in l.a. i learned more lefty bumper stickers on car the worst driver you are. if you had, a greenpeace sticker, antiwar sticker, one about the air force and bake sales. kennedy: yeah, yeah. >> if you had all of those on your car you were making left turns from the right lane, not using your turn signals, when you changed leans, et cetera. as far as you knew you were a great person and you didn't have todo -- kennedy: my favorite lefty bumper sticker signaled a bad driver, the goddess is alive and magic is afoot. go to jimmy. shift a little bit to joe biden. what would his bumper sticker look like? >> oh, my god, joe biden's campaign slo gets arrested, biden 2016. better than a real slogan, america needs a back massage.

i don't agree with. such a creep. kennedy: wouldn't you like joe and the magical fingers to work out all the knots in your net they are regions? >> i don't think he is running. they hate hillary. they love coming up with this rumor that he is announcing tomorrow, he is announcing next day. saw today he came out of the naval observatory he saw his shad dome. three more weeks will he, won't he. kennedy: will go back looking at his belly button. >> love it. >> anyhow, charles. the democratic debate was such a joke. here were five, 15, i don't know how many people were on stage i got so bored i was sloshing back euro brand of gin. trying to make sense of the evening. why even bother having democratic debates? no one is really running, are they? >> no. i think she is only one that is running. >> we have to have more of them, don't we? >> depends. one person dropped out today. jim webb who is not really democrat in the modern sense of

that word. kennedy: we'll get to jim. hold off on talking points, charles. >> lincoln chafee is unlikely to make it to the next debate. at this rate he seemed not to want to be there. >> ah. kennedy: not likely to make it to thursday. so unstable. >> i think one of the odd things about the debate the next day "the new york times" said, adults in the room, sensible people. it was one of those perfect examples of how people on the left don't realize because they congregate in small groups that bernie sanders, for example, looks every bit as crazy as craziest republican. to the average person in the united states they look at him talking about socialism and they think, what on earth? and it was odd. he sat there and said america should be like another country. over and over again. kennedy: yeah. but that is an acceptable talking point. which i share charles offense. >> could you imagine, if it were on the right, if ted cruz, for example said i think america should be more like --

kennedy: i was born in canada, therefore canada is the prime choice for people just like me. >> about chile? be like pinochet's chile. kennedy: what about going to chile's for baby back ribs? double digits. absolutely right. senator jim webb, speaking of which, thank you, charles, he did not make dramatickic comeback as hoped following last week's democratic debate. despite impressive amount of glaring he announced he is dropping out of the democratic race. he may run as independent, he may not. here is jim in his own words. >> i'm withdrawing from any consideration of being the democratic party's nominee for the presidency. how i remain as a voice will depend on what kind of support i'm shown in the coming weeks as i meet with people from all sides of america's political landscape. >> oh. kennedy: another presidential long shot. martin o'malley appeared today on "the view." thank goodness. although he hasn't quite come to

grips with reality the same way senator webb did. >> ♪ we got bad blood, you know it used to be mad blood, so take a look what you've done, it may be now we got bad blood hey ♪ >> wow. [laughter]. kennedy: i don't know what to say. i don't know if i fly into homicidal rage? or if i, just want someone to just shut down my butt? >> i expected that is something i expect to see lincoln chafee doing on the subway, like open violin case. >> probably will next week. >> this is what has passed for election cycle in 2016 on democratic side. they're the ridiculous ones. everybody keeps saying, hillary had such a good performance. who did she beat? ohio state opens up against mcniece middle valley community college. who is knee beating? only motivation for biden to run. kennedy: who had a worst week than jim webb?

>> my god, michigan punter had better week than jim webb by far. this is really ridiculous. him, o'malley and lincoln chafee remind me from milton from office space. no one told them they got fired and showed up anyway. chafee said if they don't elect me i will set fire to the building. he is milton. >> i don't actually think jim webb had a bad week. today he drops out. the democratic race thrown into chaos. there is that. kennedy: doesn't know what to do with himself. like the house speaker race. >> exactly. i said this before, webb is throw back guy to like eisenhower, george h.w. bush and served his country and went into public service because he honestly believes in public service. that is not with we want as president in the country. only three presidential candidates were webb, rick perry, lindsey graham unless you count donald trump's little delusion he was in the military. two of those guys dropped out. other one is lindsey graham.

it used to be especially on republican side, you would see guys served in the military. you don't see that anymore. not what we want as country. kennedy: people said webb would be better off running as republican. i don't think so. i agree with andy he is one of those old school centrist democrats. >> i don't think he moves. i don't think he is malleable character. the party and country moved around him. he stayed in his own way. kennedy: like island in the stream that kenny rogers -- >> that should have been -- >> cue up o'malley. tell him to cue that up. >> he won now. he doesn't have to be president of the united states which is a real virtue. kennedy: gentlemen, we have so much more to discuss. it is, man day, although it is tuesday. coming up panel returns to talk about president george w. bush report ad strong dislike for one republican candidate. find out who he is angry about. later ronda rousey dives into the gender debate with her

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♪ kennedy: hi, there, welcome back. according to "politico" at recent fund-raiser, former president george w. bush told reports, doctors, donors, told them all, only one candidate who really gets unhis skin and that would be infection known as ted cruz. this is obviously quite rare for

former president bush who has pretty much stayed out of the fray since leaving office. let's discuss with the man panel. andy levy, jimmy faley and charles kook. -- cooke? who does love ted cruz. >> i'm with president bush. occasionally he is dishonest and crazy but he is solid generally. kennedy: like a lot of libertarians he feeds the buffet, stocks it with hearty ideas. >> on drugs for example, he wants to get the federal government out of it, good for him. unfortunately when he says anything he comes across to me as mix between midwestern vacuum cleaner salesman and joel osteen. i can understand why george w. bush who all fault was likeable. i understand why would that annoy him. he annoys me. kennedy: cruz was very adept handling it.

he didn't attack bush. honestly going after the guy who poses biggest threat to his brother. totally get it. why didn't w go after trump? >> i don't see w probably ever going after trump but this bothers me. how dare w rip cruz for opportunistically sucking up to trump when he thinks he will get trump supporters all cruz has done to opportunistically suck up to trump supporters because he thinks he will get trump supporters. i want w to jump into the fray. i don't know why. i respect him staying above it since he got out of office. i was not big fan of him as president but i dig that about him. for some reason because the republican race is so nutty add more. we need w to jump in. kennedy: why not. why not have brother on brother a banjo battle. you're fascinated by george w. bush. >> you know what fascinates me about george bush? he got a dui in the '70s.

do you know what accomplishment that is. you know how drunk you had to be dui. you could be pulled overdoing 85 in a lake and might let you paddle home in the 1970s. respect that man. he is talented. kennedy: blood-alcohol minimum that you had to have in several states. >> are you drink? no, sir. there you go. kennedy: as you were. no, but he is fascinating character. i have to agree with andy, he is not even like, a former statesman. he is just like a guy who retired, so traumaized by his job he wants to be left alone. is there anything george w. bush can do at this point to actually help his brother? >> no. i think jeb bush is continuing existence in this race is going to hurt republicans because it will lead to relitigation of all of those fractious issues from the 2,000s. this is another exam i will of it. i think george w. bush is right. the fact that we're now debating

whether george w. bush or that type of republican and ted cruz, this type of republican is right means we'll have argument we shouldn't be having. kennedy: let's call the whole thing off with our shirts off. the panel returns to discuss the "star wars" trailer. and how many dozen tickets they bought last night. i bought eight. yeah. ronda rousey and jennifer lawrence in the middle of the gender pay gap debate. i will tell you the facts and you can look the facts like back of a frosting spoon next. ♪ i built my business with passion. but i keep it growing by making every dollar count. that's why i have the spark cash card from capital one. i earn unlimited 2% cash back on everything i buy for my studio. ♪ and that unlimited 2% cash back from spark means thousands

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difficult or spoiled at time. that seemed like a fine idea until i saw the payroll on internet and realized every man i was working with definitely didn't worry about being difficult or spoiled. this week u.s. -- ronda rousey joined in with her own thoughts on the pay gap. >> i think how much you should get paid with how much money you bring in. i'm highest paid fighter and not because dina and lorenzo wanted to do something nice for ladies. they do it because i bring in the highest numbers. i make them the most money. i think money they make should be proportionate to the money they bring in. kennedy: here to weigh in, hadley heath manning, director of health policy at independent women's forum. hadley, how are you? >> doing well. thanks for having me. kennedy: so nice to have you back. now are you surprised to hear the wage gap discussion go in this direction? >> well, it is a little bit of a surprise but i think it is

reflective of the evolution of this discussion nationwide. we had a presidential debate last week where democrats mentioned pay equity a couple of times but thankfully they didn't mention the 78 cents on dollar statistic that doesn't really tell us much. statistical average. i believe these comments from stars, jennifer lawrence and ronda rousey are evidence we're moving in more honest and fruitful direction when it comes how to talk about women in the work place. kennedy: yeah. i want to talk about jennifer lawrence because she brings up a really good point and this is one of the reasons why women often times don't see pay equity with their male counterparts they don't ask for more money. >> that's right. i think there are two unhelpful extremes this discussion sometimes goes to. sometimes people say, well sexism really isn't anissue. women should quit whining. it is their fault if they're not earning enough money. on other hand another unhelpful extreme to say women are 100% victims in the situation. if women are not paid the same

as men, that is the result of patriarchy. refreshing to see jennifer lawrence i have agency andntroly career. i have the power to negotiate and power to stand up for myself. this is more nuanced discussion about pay equity but a helpful one. kennedy: she also did get paid a million dollars less than each of her male counterparts but she also worked fewer days. in all fairness she could have revealed that fact as well, to round out the debate. you're absolutely right, you talk about the 78 cents on the dollar. that's one of those meaningless statistics like the 1%. really only tells part of the story as you pointed out. hillary clinton can not stand on stage and cite that when she herself was guilty of that paying her senate staff. >> that's right. and you know, this is just another one of those moments where i'm afraid that you know, fact-checking comes in handy. when you talk about 78 cents on the dollar, this is not a

measure of equal pay for equal work. just like when you mention number of days you worked on "american hustle." when you look behind the 78 cents on the dollar statistic, doesn't take into number of hours they work per week or two fields they working in. how many vacations days. how many flexibility on job. women often want options to have more flexibility on job and work in fields more attractive to them for whatever reason. we want to have a discussion whether or not women and men are being treated in the work place. this is not partisan issue. everyone equals equal pay for equal work is value. that is not part of what we believe as americans. not something democrats favor and republicans are fence. important we bring other issues to light about negotiation and market forces. at ronda rousey pointed out. she is valuable. that is why she is so well-paid. kennedy: last thing you want to hear democrats talking about this issue, my big worry somehow they will try to force government regulations and wouldn't that be the worst solution to this problem? >> absolutely. that would be the opposite of progress.

you know there are some legislation already been proposed the paycheck fairness act of the problem with this legislation it really inverts the justice system. people in the united states are innocent until proven guilty. that is the way the justice system is supposed to work. the paycheck fairness act puts burden on employers to prove innocence. to prove every decision they have made about pay is consistent with business necessity. that is the wrong direction. it limits them to be flexible individual people value and compensation based on their individual what they bring to the table this is absolutely discussion we need to have. if we as woman want options like telecommuting working from home, flexibility, paycheck fairness act and strict regulatory schemes stand in the way like it. kennedy: no one will stand in the way of hadley heath manning. thank you very much for being here. >> thank you. kennedy: indeed. coming up "jurassic world" parity on a shoe strong budget puts half the movies out there to shame. sticking to soccer finally,

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♪ kennedy: when your sea monkeys are all dead and floating and your hermit crab escaped into the air duct, hold my hand we'll by a cute new litter of news. this is the "topical storm." topic number one, jurassic world was smash box office hit of the summer bringing in over a billion dollars but why spend millions when you can recreate it with friends for about 100 bucks and just as good? check out do it yourself parody from matthew potter and co. ♪ >> every time we unveiled a new attraction, attendance has spiked. that was awesome. >> corporate felt that the genetic modification would up the wealth. >> dinosaurs are wow enough.

kennedy: i want to see the whole thing now! well-done, matthew and friends. here is topic number two. this is typical four-year-old. all she wanted for the big b-day was a themed party. what theme you ask, "frozen," "little mermaid"? puppy party? they could eat a bag of sticks. iris wants one story more than others. she wanted her party centered around cvs. she loved it so much it drover to tears. >> i want to go to cvs. >> you want to two where? >> to cvs. kennedy: iris developed obsession with america's favorite drugstore since they built a shiny new one in her arkansas hometown. what is not to love? it is always open. and it is loaded with candy and lip gloss and toys and colored pens. people are friendly. and they don't judge you when

you come in twice a week for a hydrocodone refill. maybe you're sciatica has been acting up. we all know that stupid acupuncture doesn't even work! so maybe one likes to wash down a few per cosets with splash of martini and rossi. you know who doesn't judge? cvs pharmacists. happy birthday, iris. hi from mommy. top pick number three. this one was sent to us by redneck president who used the hashtag "topical storm" on twitter. thank you, redneck. what is the best way to get millenials excited about recycling? of course a goat mascot. that is what the city of niagra falls, new york, thought. check out the new mascot, totes my goat. he is not horrifying. totally want to separate my green and clear bottles into separate bins right now. i like this picture. see how eco-friendly and deferral not demonic boat

monster he looks. recycling glass has negligible effect on environment if not a net loss but who cares. it is adorable goat mascot. definitely not freddy krueger's pet. just remember, kids, always recycle. because if you don't, totes mcgoat will have a word with you. [screaming] boy, i bet he wish you threw cardboard stuff in its own bin. topic number four. not how many times you fall down but how many times you get back up, if you will tumble, do it adorably like this little girl. >> whoa. i did it. kennedy: that is so cute. i wish i had that attitude when they, bungled my attempt to get into the 92 olympics. as five foot eight gymnast. i was supposed to perform a vault. at last minute instead of clearing that leather hurdle i

hit a referee with my car. oops. top pick number five. bad bad enough greece is up to its eyeballs in debt with forced austerity which has the mediterranean country on verge after nervous break down where they can't handle spending cuts but you hope they take care of their injured soccer stars. he plays for my third favorite team, he was injured mid match. apparently competent medics were off that day. they set in the vaseline-fingered b-team. leonardo barely survived a trip off the field. like benny hill sketch. if he was slightly hopped up on ouzo and nescafe. poor leonardo. at least he has nice big pension to look forward to when he retires. gulp. love take him to the sidelines and drop him. you will be fine.

stop it. if you have any weird stories see in the "topical storm," tweet me @kennedynation. find me on instagram. my panel returns to discuss "star wars" the new trailer. tickets went on sale last night. the funky new three-blade light saber. land dough shows up. boba feit. find out how that works. >> don't want to hear he is good enough. not such a thing as good enough. i only want great. technology empowers us to achieve more.

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♪ kennedy: whoo. >> got it. kennedy: we're good. welcome back. we've come a few more sweet tantalizing seconds closer to seeing "star wars" episode 7.

here is the latest trailer. ♪ >> the dark side. the jedi. they're real. ♪ >> the force, is calling to you. the -- just let it in. ♪ kennedy: cute. and a tear. we were watching that and said to my husband, who is that guy, meaning kylo ren, the guy with the crosses sword light saber. he said hand solo.

internet tickets broke -- advanced tickets broke the internet yesterday. andy, you got your tickets like i did? >> my tickets, friday night, saturday morning 2:00 a.m something i have never done, going to 2:00 a.m. kennedy: taking a nap. >> i'm a insomniac. i instantly got four tickets. kennedy: how did you get them? we were up to 1:00 in the morning because fandango literally broke. we were in two different rooms. did you get them? credit card thing frozen. i didn't get them. >> i used amc theaters app on iphone. it took a while and kept shutting down. kennedy: fandango. it was -- it wasn't me any favors. going to dress up for the premier? >> we need to have rules. we're excited about it, if you are overthe age of 30, don't bring light sabre to the theater. >> how dare you. kennedy: i'm going to be padme. >> i'm going to be padme. kennedy: not only one.

>> inside out, "star wars" teaser, there was man there in storm trooper costume. daddy, what is that? that, son is loser. kennedy: unfortunately he was german. >> it got heavy and really awkward. kennedy: relocated from argentina a few years ago. >> voting for trump which is interesting. kennedy: oh, no, i wouldn't touch that with your light sabre. is this redemption. >> is what redemption? kennedy: for the prequels, episode 7 is redemption -- >> you never seen any "star wars?" >> no, i haven't. i will be odd one out here. i like the first three movies. the old ones. then the new ones, i didn't particularly like. and then with this one i'm not excited because i didn't like the other new ones and i think that it was, i'm going to be disappointed. kennedy: charles, this is the first time i ever thought your british accent makes you sound like a snob. >> no it is not. you know what my favorite movie is? "back to the future." i'm not a snob. i like those movies.

kennedy: i love -- >> everyone agrees the first three movies, first two in particular are garbage. kennedy: third pry quell. >> i mean ones from the '70s. >> the prequels. >> the prequels were terrible. so i'm not really excited about this one. kennedy: did you see them? dark. >> last hagood. kennedy: not great but -- >> because of that, maybe i will be wrong. then i go watch it. >> i'm not even huge "star wars" fan. might not use tickets. not give them to anyone. give up the great seats. kennedy: we got tickets for friday and sunday because our friday seats suck. they're absolutely horrible. >> don't go. kennedy: catching heat online about comments i made on "outnumbered" by a study that said men are intimidated by smart women. one of the coauthors of study is woman conceivably academic with phd maybe have tough time meeting gentlemen in her life and has a bit of confirmmation.

i'm not saying i know the woman or know anything about her. i'm imagining there might be cats. there might be reruns of alley mcbeale. -- ali mack beale. kennedy: my pan nell is brimming with testosterone. i got in a lot of trouble. you say you're voice aroused by pictures of ayn rand? >> no. ayn rand is pretty terrible stylist. so everyone hates me, all the ayn rand fans. i feel the opposite actually. i always found attractive women attractive. i always found intelligent women attractive. kennedy: yeah. >> i don't know what they're talking about in the study. maybe i'm not the case study that they were looking at. kennedy: no, one article, cites meek mell. >> wint for the scholars on that one. rent is too damn high busy? how did we find with meek mill.

we need men not afraid to lose a battle rap in front of the whole country. rubbish that anything guys are not attracted to is ridiculous. guys will hook up with anything that moves. only time we're bothered by intelligence is who girl who thinks she is intelligent. everybody has bonhomme with a girl wants to hear their theories existential alism. the guy whips out acoustic guitar at last minute. >> martin o'malley. kennedy: female martin o'malleys, those are the ones that you want to stay away from. is this hypothesis true? >> i think it is true as a general statement. particularly as we see what i call the rise of pseudo alpha, guys who desperately want to be seen as tough and mainly but they're scared little boise the world changing around them and think want to go home to cry to mommy. i do think a lost guys like that in particular are scared of smart women. i think that is absolutely true. i found what you said to be outrageous and offensive, kennedy. i thought about -- kennedy: my work is done here. >> i thought about not coming on

the show today in protest. >> i know. andy you are a patient and giving man. i appreciate you rising above your foaming anger. and now, according to the guardian, the amount of therapists trained to help wealthy people with their problems, that is on the rise since the world's rich feel lonely at the top and still have bummer days. so, i'd like to say whoever is watching, i will gladly come hang out on your yacht or personal zeppelin to trait about your problems over some nice caviar and, guilded toilet seat. wouldn't you love to need the kind of therapist only wealthy people to go to talk to talk about how hard it is to be the 1%? >> i feel if people got together, started drinking, let's take the first world problems concept to its logical conclusion. if you can not be happy at being in the global 1%, in other words, being probably richest people that ever lived in the history of the world, then you should off yourself. kennedy: you should bequeath

your wealth to me. sounds expensive though, this kind of therapy. >> it's a genius move. they branded this wealth therapy so they can charge them more for it. you need a wealth therapist. it is really rich. speaks to lack of self-awareness that people armplaining using humans as furniture while sitting on the couch in the therapists office. >> i disagree in part. i think while, to me it is obvious rich people can have problems. rich people can be depressed. anyone can be depressed. their unhappiness should not stem from the fact they're rich though. that's the problem there. >> they didn't say therapy for wealthy people. >> no, i understand that we're acting as if poor rich people have problems. rich people do have problems. >> of course. kennedy: you know what? if i had enough money to throw a nutritionist and facilitator at my rich people problems i would love to be filthy rich. >> there is also thing, some of these are not problems. they have upset they have to conceal their wealth. they should be concealing their wealth. we have lost this whole --

kennedy: such a silicon valley thing. that is an outrage. >> we had waspy notion for lack of a better word in the country don't talk about money because this is not classily. >> this is why i feel sorry for myself. they can conceal my wealth but i can't conceal my extraordinary good looks. i'm right at -- kennedy: so difficult. >> should have known you were going to do that. kennedy: coming up, thank you very much, gentlemen, charles, jimmy, andy. gillian michaels is here to talk about her new show. search for next big fitness phenomenon happening in moments. stay here. buddy- nice place, nice car what happened?

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michaels. >> are you ready for this. >> she is on a mission to find america's next fitness pham none. >> i see genius. kennedy: that is clip from "sweat ink." gillian's new show. entrepreneurs compete against each other with the next fitness craze. "sweat ink" premiers 10 p.m. on spike tv. that is eastern time. gillian michaels, queen of fitness. with your empire. >> i don't know about that. kennedy: i love fitness and makes me so happy. i think you have taken it to a new level, making sweaty and working a fun endeavor. how have you done that. >> oh, gosh. that is what we try to disseminate on the show. what is nature of a pham none none? part of it is giving people sense of belonging. kennedy: yeah. >> giving sense of empowerment and taking them out of their every day kind of mundane lives. all of our lives get a bit routine. kennedy: yeah.

>> you get to step into the new persona. i'm yogi and spirit alist. kennedy: so you -- soulcycle capitalized. you look at words on the wall and you're transported. >> that is what is does. it really does do that. kennedy: is there anything thaw resent about the term, next big fitness craze? is it there something about it kind of lazy like people don't want to do the work and looking for something easy to give them results they can't get with schwec equity? >> not with fitness. with diet absolutely. kennedy: okay. >> yes. with fitness it is important to constantly reinvent the wheel because it can bet boring, right? kennedy: yeah. >> you want something different. train in variety of ways. with diet there is no craze. calories in, calories out. don't eat crap, end of story. kennedy: yeah. >> fitness i'm a little more for giving. kennedy: nice thing about fitness, i heard you say this before, a lot of times people start working out, people don't eat enough. they don't eat right calories

and enough of them. actually somehow it almost defies physics because it bogs down the metabolism. >> well if you're talking about vanity pounds which can be five, 10, 15, even 20 pounds, when you don't eat enough, and you create too large of a calorie deficit, your body goes into theoretical starvation mode, wow i have too many calories out, not enough calories n it signals certain biochemical changes. more cortisol, less human growth hormone, less testosterone we tell our body, store fat. food is scarce. in that particular instance i always recommend don't create more than a deficit of 500 to 800 calories a day trying to lose those vanity pounds. kennedy: all right. so let's talk about "sweat ink." >> yes. kennedy: people looking for thing that gets people reignited about fitness or out of plateaus. how competitive is the industry? >> oh gosh, ridiculously competitive.

i don't see the show as fitness show as crazy as it sounds. i think it is competitive world, anybody who has a dream and who sacrificed, laid it all on the line will really identify with these entrepreneurs, their struggle, their journey. they will learn as these guys learn because they come under tutelage of myself and my two cojudges. it's a competitive world. you have to be willing to do the work! kennedy: yeah. >> and some do it and some don't. you will see that. kennedy: are we seeing new fitness crazes coming out of the show? >> i certainly hope so. kennedy: the next trx? >> without a doubt. there are a couple, i wish there was more of a "shark tank" element because a couple of people got eliminated. i was like when can i put money in this? i think this is a great idea. needs to give it some space. i think that, either the actual winner, of course i won't name, has a great program, a great idea. but there were several others along the way that also think

have brilliant concepts that will get great boost off the show. kennedy: all right. perhaps one day you will help them with your empire. >> really hope so. kennedy: give them a boost, take them to the next level. >> yes. kennedy: jillian, thank you so much for being here. i have loved you always. i admire your abs. how does she do that? it's miraculous. >> very sweet. kennedy: very sweet person. thank you for coming by. >> thank you for having me. kennedy: coming up more on trip on red carpet. i was in l.a., chatted with celebrities about 2016. find out who is commie and surprisingly who is not. stay right here. ♪ l long term. active management can tap global insights. active management can seek to outperform. that's the power of active management. i am totally blind. and sometimes i struggle to sleep at night, and stay awake during the day. this is called non-24. arn more by calling 844-824-2424.

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kennedy: oh, high there. i was in l.a. for new documentary, all things must pass i was talking to interesting characters about the looming 2016 election. check it out. ♪

who are you most intrigued by in the presidential race? >> who am i most intrigued by? i think bernie sanders because i don't know as much about him as i do the others. kennedy: are you feeling the bern? >> i like that. kennedy: josie davis from "charles in charge" and beverly hills 90218. she had things about the republican debate. >> i think carly fiorina kicked [bleep] on that one. kennedy: if you had to vote for woman would vote for carly over hillary? >> yee. kennedy: legendary -- got in on action. >> bernie. kennedy: i like bernie. he is interesting man. i am libertarian. i like limited government people. that makes everyone the same and ordinary and you don't want life to be ordinary, do you, rodney? >> no. i like a little excitement. ♪ kennedy: jessie hughes, front man of rock band, death metal, identified as conservative i had

some things to say about 2016. >> never wanted anyone to give me anything. i understand that pimps and drug pushers get things for free. i don't trust anyone that wants to sell me on all you can drink lemonade. sort of dictates everything i think. i want my money, my guns. i don't want anyone to tell me what to do. kennedy: who is moving him in this election? >> i only reason i tend to want trump so fervently, someone not beholden to anyone by virtue of his wealth. he failed some times at business and resucceeded if you will, in spite of those people that we all agree in cocktail conversationth america. i believe radical change is required. i think it is waste of our time to even discuss the topic of the problems of america without considering their actual creative force, 30, 40, 50 years ago. i almost feel like people who tend to vote for democrats are ones who really didn't want to clean their room, mom. have just carried that juvenile attitude into their adult life. become really big kids with a

paycheck. ♪ kennedy: yeah, jesse. thanks so much for watching the show. kennedy fbn@foxbusiness.com. fill up the mail bag. i will see you tomorrow night. luscious love of my life, farewell. tomorrow. >> a world record car collection. >> he just kept going. he never stopped. >> i believe his goal was to have one of every car ever made. >> a maverick driven to leave a mark. >> he went to the auction, bought the whole lot. >> his family promises to carry out his grand plan. >> i think there was a feeling of dread, relief, excitement, and enthusiasm. >> love it. love the hair flowing. the top down. >> but can they fulfill the patrio patriarchs dying