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from tel aviv. melissa: first stocks fighting back on wall street. the dow down 240 points after the low of the day. [closing bell rings] as the closing bells sound on wall street, we're down 179. down 20 on s&p 500. that is almost a full percentage. look at russell getting hurt there as well. david? david: let's talk in more detail what is happening with the markets. we have leif mardell and chad morganlander join us. chad, first to you, we have the chinese numbers which essentially say they're not exporting a lot of stuff because the rest of the world is not buying a lot of stuff. is that why the market is down? >> absolutely. they're not importing either. you have global growth decelerating. one has to keep in mind, 75% of the global growth comes from emerging markets. so what we're expecting for for
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2016 is global gdp rate far lower than what imf is stating. our expectations are 2 1/2%. that with the convergence of the federal reserve raising rates in december or january, not so stellar news on s&p front, you get this kind of market gyration. we believe the markets overall until the end of the year will be flat to somewhat down. david: leif, if we do have interest rate hikes, even small interest rate hikes, higher interest rates and mediocre growth, that is the worst of both worlds? >> well, look, you about the rate hike cycle -- david: hold on. that's for leif. that's for leif. >> okay. >> sure you could have thesis say yeah, the market doesn't like higher interest rates or another thesis is, we're beginning really a technical correction. let's face it s&p 500 has rallied over 10% since the september low. we have to do a correction before we go higher.
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we're looking at some support levels below we're at today. fibonacci 1/3 retracement. 155 for initial support. 1 1/2 a percent would be 122. let's see a little bit of a correction and pullback before the market can go higher. david: chad, we're looking forward to the debate tomorrow night. what does the market hear from these guys? >> they want to hear political unity from both sides, fiscal discipline as well and perhaps a plan in place so you can get the actual united states up and running where corporate spending based off of good tax policy will be generating economic vitality within the united states. i don't believe that will come to fruition tomorrow night or after the election. we believe gdp growth for 2016 and beyond will be roughly 2, to 2.25 and 2 1/2%.
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david: leif, we have only five section. one thing markets want to hear from these guys? >> there is a plan. we have unity and know they have a plan where they want to take america. david: thanks very much, gentlemen. melissa. melissa: fight night round four, republican contenders set to take the stage. fox business's blake burman is at the debate site in milwaukee. blake? reporter: good afternoon, from downtown milwaukee as we count down to tomorrow night's fox business debate at the stage behind me. one. big headlines is dr. ben carson and scrutiny he is facing about several accounts, personal accounts of his story as a younger kid some decades ago, really 40, 50 years ago. this began last week first with the story that cnn investigative report they featured. followed up on friday a piece from "politico." questioning a carson's account in his book, "gifted hands," a meeting with top military leader and a scholarship from west point.
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carson had to account for that. i want to read you part of it, wrote in his biography. sergeant hunt introduced me to general westmoreland and i had dinner with him and congressional medal winners. later i was offered a full scholarship at west point. dr. carson was on with maria bartiromo this morning and maria asked him were you indeed with the general at that time. carson's answer seemed to add a little more confusion to the topic. >> i don't remember if i was with him when the offer came. the offer was not, as i recall from him but there were put pell other officers around. there were several things that i was insited to, because of my status as the city executive officer, and general westmoreland was at one of them. reporter: cars son has largely wiped away all of this saying this is nothing more than distractions. he says the media has focused
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more on him than then senator, 2007 senator barack obama. the white house was asked about that today. they pushed back on carson's claim saying essentially you are a presidential frontrunner, scrutiny abounds, deal with it. back to you. melissa: that about says it all. blake, thank you so much. ben carson strikes back. carson taking swipes at media. in a string of appearances over what he feels is unfair treatment by the press. >> i have always said that i expect to be vetted but being vetted and what is going on with me, you said this 30 years ago, you said this 20 years ago. this didn't exist. you know, i just, i have not seen that with anyone else. if you can show me where that has happened with someone else i will take that statement back. melissa: fox news contributor and author of, a slobbering love affair, bernard goldberg has written extensively about the media relationship with
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candidates. he joins us whether he thinks carson is right. parse that statement he just made there, he has gotten more scrutiny than any of the other candidates we've seen out there. is that true? >> i think it is, to this extent much. i have no problem with the media questioning dr. carson about his past, especially since he's running on his life story. so his life story matters. my complaint, this is where i think he's right, my complaint is that the media 10 to slobber a lot more and they salivate a lot more when going after conservative republicans than liberal democrats. so hillary clinton, for instance, used to, one easy example, she was exposed as a liar at the benghazi hearings a few weeks ago. she said that what happened in benghazi was the result of a video. we all know that story. but what we found out is that she told her daughter and told the prime minister of egypt that it was not a video. that it was -- that's an old story.
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how did the media handle this? they said it was the best weeks of her campaign. that she was presidential. the republicans were just out to get her. melissa: you know what i think the difference might be though? >> that was not important to them. melissa: i think difference might be ben carson's brand is truth and decency. >> absolutely. melissa: that is his calling card. so this strikes at his fundamental brand, in the case of the clintons they have stretched the truth for a long time. people are used to it. it doesn't undermine their basic brand. >> hold on. it is legitimate to go after him because, as i said, it is his life story that he is running on. so to examine his life story is perfectly legitimate. but if the argument is, that he is running as a person who is honest and clintons don't run as people are honest. melissa: right. >> so we shouldn't expect much from them that is not an argument i would buy. melissa: i say why it is causing more damage. in terms of damage --
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>> no. that may be one, that may be one reason but another reason it es causing more damage us because he is a conservative republican and she is liberal democrat. that is at the heart of this. melissa: okay. >> i have no problem when they go after any republican. that's absolutely legitimate. that's the role of the press. but when they show more enthusiasm going after republicans than democrats, that's where the double-standard and their hypocrisy cops in. that's what i can't tolerate. melissa: i hear you. bernie goldberg, thank you so much. love having you on. thank you. david: sometimes bloodlust. i've seen some of that. by the way, did you know there is fox business republican presidential debate? melissa: oh? david: gop candidates are gearing up for their fourth faceoff. joining me moderator of tomorrow's first debate, author of "the intelligence report" on fox business. anchor of "the intelligence report."
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>> i write most of it anyway so author is good. we know, trish, the candidates are preping up right now. how are you prepping up? >> for weeks now, david, i have been looking at the differences and the nuances between all of these candidates and their economic policies, looking where they stand on taxes, where they stand on trade, where they stand on jobs. you know this is going to be a very substantive debate with a lot of serious questions being asked just exactly how they are going to get america back to work again. we're living through as you well know a pretty challenging time. you have got anemic growth. you've got jobs, some jobs being created, face it, the wages aren't there. they're not great jobs. there are a lot of questions, david, how you move in this transition from what is historically and most recent times a manufacturing society to increasingly technological and services based society. what do you do as you're coping with this transition.
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i think that is a lot of where we are right now. there will be very important questions asked about how they intend to get at to this next growth level. david: all of what is happening with the economy you laid out so perfectly there. the fact is people don't feel good. they don't feel the economy is doing what it should do for them. >> you're right, david, they don't feel like there is opportunity. face it, this is what made our country so historically great. this belief in the future. this positive sense i can get ahead. this sense my children can get ahead and i think this is missing right now. it comes down to the next leader to take us forward, to help america believe in the values and traditions that have made us historically great. david: yeah. >> so this will be a big part of hopefully what we hear on stage tomorrow night. you know one interesting point i should tell you about we have put forward a larger platform for which the candidates will
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have to answer questions. instead of traditional 60 seconds. they will have 90 seconds, which as you and i know is like eternity in tv time. david: yeah it is. >> the 0 seconds to answer questions. they will get an additional 60 seconds in follow-up. our goal is to hear from them. american voters deserve it. david: unfortunately our 90 seconds has ended. see you tomorrow. >> see you tomorrow. david: it starts 7:00 p.m. trish and sandy will be on first deck and part two of the debate coming up after that. you don't want to miss it. president obama meeting with benjamin netanyahu for the first time since their fight over the iran nuclear deal. former israeli ambassador dan geller man weighing in on this meeting coming up. melissa: senator marco rubio hopes tomorrow's debate will give him a boost in the polls. his biggest challenge with voters who can't tell the
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david: president obama and israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu breaking the ice today after months ever tension. the two leaders focusing on israeli-palestinian arrest on first meeting since the iran nuke deal was signed a deal israel strongly opposes. we have dan gillerman, former ambassador to the israel and to the u.n. this nuclear deal with iran was supposed to increase the liberalization of iran. allow for more democracy. instead we've seen just the opposite.
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we've seen an american businessman arrested. we've seen a crackdown by hard-liners on iranians. i know the prime minister is too polite to rub it in with president obama, do you think he will at least mention it? >> well, i'm sure the prime minister brought up iran and horrible threat iran is posing not just to israel and the middle east, in fact to civil situation as we know it and to the united states, that still considers the big satan. the iranians have not changed. iranians are on a quest for nuclear weapons. the iranians are still main engine and perpetrators and financiers after terror around the world. i think when they were left alone in the room the prime minister certainly made that in his opinion, of this deal very clear to the president. david: rather than things just being the same, things have seemed to have gotten tougher.
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the hard-liners seem to have more control than ever. am i wrong? >> no, you're not wrong. iran is not changing for the better. it is changing for the worse. this deal which they negotiated in very masterly way because they were faced with the united states that wanted this deal at any cost and europe that was dying to do business with them is now feeling much more confident and wants to really impose its rule and its sovereignty over arab and muslim world. david: yeah. >> it is continuing to be a terrorist threat and it is not getting better. in fact getting worse. david: ambassador, i have to talk about what is happening in israel. violence increased over the weekend. we saw some dramatic examples of it. a palestinian woman pulling a knife out at a checkpoint trying to stab, i believe she did, not fatally thankfully a man who shot her. who is behind all this? who is encouraging, who is
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directing the palestinian people? i mean, i understand they say it is all spontaneous but i suspect there is some direction underneath, is there not? >> well, don't believe anyone who tells you this is spontaneous. that is a direct result of horrible, horrible incitement and palestinians in their mosques and their homes and media are raised on in the textbooks. ongoing inciteness to kill jews and martyrs and 72 virgins waiting up for them in heaven. this incitement is causing this and i believe, you know, something we've seen over and over again. today we're seeing much more of it, incitement is getting worse. palestinian authority is weak and does not impose the rule of
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law. israel has to do everything it can against the horrible terror. this extreme system threatening not just us but every democracy around the world. we've seen this in new york. e it in europe and unfortunately all of the world. david: our prayers are with you, ambassador dan gillerman. >> thank you. david: thanks for coming on. melissa: tomorrow's fox business debate is coming up and republican national committee chairman reince priebus tells us what to expect after the last debate debacle. presidential hopefuls hope to make their comedic debuts on "saturday night live." we'll explain. ♪
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the fox business/"wall street journal" debate tomorrow night. a lot of pressure ridings on this event. the first debate will put focus on key economic issues facing all americans. reince priebus is chairman of the republican national committee. he joins me now. let me ask you, has the dust settled from the last debate as we look to get started this time around? >> yeah, i think so. but it could, the dust can reignite depending what happens tomorrow. no, i think it will be fine. here is the thing with cnbc. the reason people were up in arms there, it wasn't because of the green rooms or what was there, you know. it was all about whether something was delivered that was promised or not. that was the problem. ii have a good feeling tomorrow night and i think it will be great. melissa: we'll definitely deliver on business. >> good. melissa: one of the keys for people out there looking should be who really can beat hillary
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clinton. that is one of the main underlying issues for republican. >> of course. melissa: you said if the republican doesn't win in 2016, we're cooked. why do you say that? >> well, because i think you're right. it is all about winning. we have to win. good news, number of our candidates can win and up to primary delegates to decide who that is. despite volatility on our side of the aisle, the fact when you look at head-to-head polls, many of our candidates are already beating hillary clinton head-to-head. that is what it is about. but the reason i say we could be cooked -- melissa: why do you say your party could be cooked if you don't win this one in particular? >> very difficult at national level to run a nationwide, year-round, infrastructure, ground game data operation if you're out of the white house 16 years straight. the infrastructure it take, money to compete at national
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level, hundreds of millions of dollars. if you have a hillary clinton in the white house for another eight years, obviously that means that we're not going to be able to raise money we need to raise. people will say listen, we've become a midterm party that doesn't lose and a presidential party that has a hard time winning. that's a conclusion that we can't get to. i don't think we will but, we're going to have to be really good to win in 2016. i think we will. melissa: speaking of that, who do you think has the most momentum going into tomorrow? >> well, you're asking the wrong guy. those are type of questions that can get me into trouble. melissa: no kidding. >> we have a varsity team. that is one thing about this field of candidates that is very true. these are accomplished people. whether they're polling at top or they're polling, more in the middle or at the bottom, the point is everyone of these candidates have done a ton with their lives and they're great leaders. so i think it is really hard for
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people to decide who should be the nominee. melissa: do you think there has been too much shooting inside of the tent on republican side? you look at latest dust-up with ben carson? >> i don't know. i don't think our candidates necessarily going over the line. i think there are some jabs and some polks here and there. i don't think anything out of the ordinary or terribly troubling. i think it's a matter of making sure that we have fair media and when the media's not fair, i think it is really important that us as republicans shoot back and say listen this, is out of line. you guys need to get your act together which is what you've seen really over last couple weeks. melissa: chairman priebus, thanks so much for coming on. >> hey, look forward to tomorrow, thanks. melissa: absolutely. david? david: we have another treat. our own charlie gasparino, what do you make of reince priebus? >> he called cnbc a bunch of liars. david: you've been telling us
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that for years, but go ahead. >> getting down to the debate couple weeks ago. they proposed one thing to them. when the candidates got on the stage, cnbc delivered something else. that is stinging indictment of that network but, that caught me. that was kind of interesting. and, i think he is, way he handled question i think it was completely appropriate one. i've been up since 4:00 in the morning. somebody asked -- david: what else is new? >> no. i had to get in early, david. david: all right. see you in the gym, remember but go ahead. >> someone asked him about the jabs is that hurting the party. david: right. >> or infighting is that hurting the party. he described it as jabs. i would say it is not jabs. i think one of the interesting things that donald trump has done is he we're not done with this campaign. he almost obliterated jeb bush. raised the notion marco rubio is too immature to be president. basically called ben carson that
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guy that makes stuff up. didn't call him a liar. david: it is not just trump but counterpunches from other people. i wonder per the debate will be different? we're focusing on business, business solutions to economic problems of this country has. do you think because of that focus, maybe we won't have so much sniping at each other? >> you want a little sniping because you want some action. we'll get some of that. david: that's true. >> they will have to differentiate. one of the interesting things from economic standpoint, all these guys kind of agree on same stuff. they believe in lower taxes. they believe in less rates and closing loopholes. they all believe getting rid of carried interest deduction and favorable tax treatment that private equity executives get. they all believe that stuff in the context of tax reform. it will be interesting to see in context of that they try to differentiate themselves. david: charlie gasparino, go get a little catnap before the debate. >> i will.
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david: thank you very much, charlie. good to see you. have fun. melissa: night before the debate, there is no sleep for the candidates. last minute preparations go head-to-head with our own neil cavuto and maria bartiromo. plus absent policy proposes. what the presidential hopefuls are missing on key issues that matter to you and your money. jeb bush: we do not have to be the world's policeman.
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jeb bush is with an event outside of milwaukee with governor scott walker. fox business's blake burman with details of that. hi, blake. reporter: hi, david. it starts to feel real once the candidates get into town. that is the moment we're at right now. a live look down the road from us, 20 miles to our west. this is the town of waukesha. this is where jeb bush will hold a education reform rally. he is headliner. he will have a special guest this afternoon, that being scott walker, current governor in state of wisconsin. also a former presidential contender. just down the road from bush, literally just a couple miles away eller today was marco rubio. he is here in wisconsin as well. he held a rally there, pretty much a standard fare stump speech from what we were able to gather. rubio and bush will be linked together forever for several reasons politically. one of them, at least for the
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moment could potentially be walker. he is by bush's side this afternoon. rubio we can tell you, reached out to walker late last week, trying to get his support but so far no endorsement on any end from the governor here in wisconsin. also linked together at least for the moment, donald trump and dr. ben carson. they sit one and two atop every single poll you look at, whether at national level or state level. we got yet another reminder this coming from south carolina. but a little bit after change there, in the first primary state in the south. you could see it is carson on top of the poll there, by one point ahead of donald trump that is the first time since late june that carson, that trump, rather, hasn't been on top of a poll in south carolina. a little bit of a shift there possibly. dade, i leave it to you with this, absolutely beautiful weather here in milwaukee. david: listen, i love the horse race. it is an exciting -- i have
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never seen a campaign like this in my lifetime. very exciting campaign. glad to be a part of it. reporter: back and forth, back and forth. great. david: blake, thank you very much. melissa. melissa: we'll be focused on top issues on minds of americans. economy, jobs, taxes, policies that affect our jobs and security. here what they will listen to the candidates, stephen hayes, ashley pratt, and fox news contributor julie roginsky. thanks to all of you for joining us. steve, let me start with you. who do you think that can really excel in the format. we know the it will be a taxes, entitlements, spending, who do you think shines out in the forum of this group? >> anytime you focus on substance the candidates who know issues the best will obviously do the best. in this context you're looking like marco rubio shown himself to talk in detail, but detail without losing his audience. melissa: right. >> ted cruz.
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jeb bush i would say the three that can talk in greatest detail on those issues in particular. melissa: see, ashley, a very tough needle to thread, because we kind of face this every day on the network. you want to ask detailed questions. how exactly will you pay for that? how much will you cut? at the same time you don't have a bunch of time. candidates don't want to lose the audience going too deep in the woods, but the weeds are what americans need to know about. who do you think makes the message compelling and really tells you true facts on the economy. >> i at this at this point where jeb bush is so good at. that is where he has a more of a problem. he has treated it as conversation he is trying to debate but everyone else wants to throw rocks at each other, he just wants to talk about his election as governor. this is anomaly, someone with a executive with great conservative record as governor has not been able to get that message out there. tomorrow night will be a chance
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for those who, not normal outsiders but outsiders in the sense they're the one who is are now outlyers in poll where people like trump and carson are leading and they're considered outsiders. it's a weird phenomenon. i really do think tomorrow night will be chance for people like jeb bush and marco rubio and for ted cruz to get up there to have the moment they have been looking for. melissa: julie, what do you think? who steps up and has the moment in this debate tomorrow? >> so far marco rubio has been the person best able to thread sounding substantive with actually being able to communicate his message effectively. this is make-or-break debate for jeb bush in the following sense. ashley is right, he is very good communicating message with a time to do it. the problem with a debate you don't have time to do it. 60 or 90 second sound bites is not good forum. he has to be able to do that. if i were in his shoes i would not be gala haven'ting around with scott walker. he needs debate prep in order to
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communicate his message tomorrow. melissa: we'll leave it there. thank you. david: economic issues dominate the conversation on facebook ahead of tomorrow's big debate right here on the fox business network. jo ling kent is here with us. you would know that if you were on tweet, exactly one minute ago i will be on with david and melissa in one minute. we love your tweeting. what are people most passionate about on internet now? >> facebook is gathering data the past week, dave and they're putting it all together in this exclusive deal. the top trending gop candidates, start with the big picture, no surprise trump starting at the top. he is dominating conversation across the country. he is followed by carson and then cruz. rounding out the top five, bush and paul. we want to switch over to look at the issues, what are people starving to hear about? the economy is certainly among the top five, coming in at number two. but government ethics. every since benghazi hearings and questions surrounding
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secretary clinton emails that has been dominating conversation on facebook. rounding out the top five, government assistance, religion and guns. this list is -- what do trump, talk about and what are they needed about? what are their top issues? i am my sprayings and economy, yet again. campaign finance, racial issues and religion. very much focused on the jobs and economy. very much in the minds of facebook users. facebook has a billion daily active users logging on to every single day around the world. all eyes on data and debate. >> not just numbers and passion, but intensity with which people in the internet use that medium. jo ling kent, good to see you. >> sure. melissa: case for senator rand paul. the kentucky senator under
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i'm curious, since only guys who do that, who achieve that, why don't you make more hay with that? >> i think rand will use the stage tomorrow night to talk about his tax reform plan. it is a big, bold plan. it scraps the tax code. it replaces crazy quilt with a flat rate but also deals with payroll taxes which is the most regressive part of the tax code. all of this, i think, represents what's unique about rand. he is is an outsider but he understands policy enough. he is actually developed plans on everything from tax reform to entitlements to balancing the budget. and, in a stage where there's less bickering that expertise will come out. david: he is an outsider even though he is inside the senate. he came to power, i don't know if people remember, going against establishment. he went against the buy mitch mcconnell wanted, leader of the senate. i'm wondering if because of
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that, because he came in sort of against the establishment, whether they still hold that against him? do you see any of that? >> oh, i definitely think that there's wings of the republican party inside the beltway fear more than anything else a rand paul candidacy that is successful. but i think that is exactly why rand is going to break out of the pact. there are two aspects there. he represents grassroots america. he was very popular with the tea party but he speakses to independence and libertarians and young people, people we need to join the republican fight. david: matt, which is more powerful at this point? power is politics. is the tea party constituents which is all over america, broad based but is that now more powerful than the republican establishment? >> well, i think in primaries particularly in caucus states, where it is all about enthusiasm and your willingness to show up to talk to your neighbors, that was the key to the tea party.
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i think that is also key to the broader liberty movement. that sort of rand's special position within a crowded field. he has constituency that is working on the ground in states like iowa. i'm obviously in nevada right now. i think these are places where rand will perform well. david: matt kibbee, who knows the tea party well. you've been wit from the start. great to see you again, matt. >> great to see you, david. david: so long. melissa. melissa: donald trump's highly anticipated "saturday night live" appearance turned out to be success bringing in highest ratings in three years. get this, trump was only shown for 12 minutes. deirdre bolton joins us now. that is an important number, right? >> it is very important number, melissa, i don't know if you caught it, one where he is rapping with drake is probably my favorite part of those 12 minutes. you said it, that number is important. when hillary clinton went on, i wrote this down, she had three minutes and 12 seconds. but under this equal opportunity
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clause of federal communications clause, if you're running for office, you the right to equal time. so essentially we're not just talking about debate equal time now. we are going to be talking about equal time for candidates even when they go on comedy shows, when they participate in sketches, "snl" in particular. essentially any candidate can request same amount of time donald trump did get this last saturday night. melissa, nine million viewers for "snl." we liked show. we talk about it a lot. but they haven't seen those ratings in many, many years. melissa: that is sword that cuts both ways. for the other candidates who demand to be on for same amount of time and do a terrible job and, right, or they make fun of you the whole time. you're signing up for who knows what. it will be interesting to watch that deirdre, thank you so much. look forward to seeing you at the top of the hour for "risk & reward." david? comes up, attack.
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david: republican candidates eyeing candidate gaining more support from voters an donors. marco rubio tomorrow's debate could be a chance to set himself apart from the pack. steve hayes is back and her shades slay -- mercedes schlapp lap, former george w. bush spokesman. they're both at 11% right now. they appeal to a very different
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constituency, don't they? on one hand cruz, very much of a tea party outsider where rubio is much more of an insider. >> sure, as cuban-american i can appreciate both their sets of talents, i tell you that much. but senator ted cruz is more confrontational, tea party, grassroots type of movement, you see this very much in the social media, where ted cruz followers are very strong, very out there. i think for senator marco rubio it's a little bit different. he kind of can fall on both lanes. could fall into the more moderate, establishment type inside, the republican ranks. sort of outsider as well. again, senator marco rubio does also come from the tea party movement. he has a 98% rating from the american conservative union. i mean again, he is no moderate himself. david: right. >> probably one that has broader reach. david: cruz gets more passion from the tea party constituents
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than rubio does. steve, i have to point out something. it is funny that you have the democrats always labeling republicans as the all-white party, anthony immigrant party, here are two cuban immigrants and all the democrats are white folks. >> three of the top four republicans are in fact minorities. there is some irony in that. i don't think you will hear much. david: i don't think it is ironic. i think it is hp hypocrisy of the democratic charge. >> not just the democratic charge, but mainstream media. this is meme we heard from the mainstream media, republicans have difficult time reaching out to minorities. they can't communicate with minorities. while that has been true that republicans have struggled on the presidential level, in the past two campaigns, it is not true overall that republicans are having a tough time with minorities. i think mercedes is right.
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marco rubio, it is important to remember, in 2010 he was face of the tea party in many respects. i spent about a month in miami in october of 2010 covering his campaign. and that was the charge from both democrat in the race kendrick meek and charlie crist, incumbent governor at the time. rubio has a little tea party in him. he sought to change the system from the inside and cruz has sought to confront it and disrupt it. david: i think marco moved to the mainstream, frankly saw more donors there and more green space than what cruz had. he established himself as such an outsider. guys, we have to leave it at that. will be fascinating to hear your comments what happens tomorrow. steve, mercedes. appreciate it. >> thank you. melissa: the questions you want to hear at tomorrow's debate, fox business took to the street to find out. have you seen this? a daredevil climbing the eiffel tower without any visible ropes? david: aye yi yi. melissa: u.k. advent you arer james kingston had to hide from security guards in order to complete this stunt.
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david: we'll be asking questions but depend on you. we want to hear from you for tomorrow night's debate. gerri willis has been talking to folks on the streets. gerri, what are the folks concerned about? reporter: guys, recession ended in 2009 but couldn't prove it by a lot of americans. people i talked to had serious questions, about jobs and health care. listen to this. >> i want to know how are americans going to continue to be competitive if we do try to keep jobs at home? how will we compete with the rest of the world economically? reporter: paying a lot out-of-pocket. how do you afford it? >> i work harder but i'm not saving any money. reporter: this is affecting your retirement savings. do you have an emergency fund? reporter: i'm going through my emergency fund right now because my son was in the hospital. reporter: lots of trouble with americans with their wallets. they have serious questions. what they want, guys, is details.
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>> absolutely. david: go through -- there are some people, who has you found out are actually going through their, dipping into their retirement fund, their emergency fund. this is very dangerous position. reporter: that's right. david: thank you, gerri. that does it for us. "risk & reward" starts right now. deirdre: the fox business republican press debate is tomorrow. we're gearing up today. welcome to "risk & reward", i'm deirdre bolton. the event kicks off in milwaukee, wisconsin. 7:00 p.m. tomorrow night is the time it starts. candidates arrive as we speak. peter barnes with me from the debate site. peter, are you tracking the candidates? are they there? reporter: we are, deirdre. we have two candidates here that we know of already. one is marco rubio, the florida senator. he was here for a rally today as well as fund-raising event. i think we have a little video

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