which they should. stuart: moments from now, don't know how many moments from now, that door will open, the president will walk in and approach that podium and neil cavuto, you are going to take us through it. neil: i am ready for it. it is delayed two hours we will stay on the podium and we will never leave it. enjoy your first thanksgiving, united states citizen. be good. i love you. in the meantime we are waiting to hear from the president of the united states, we are expecting a security announcement, he is meeting with his security team, might be an update on new restrictions, warnings to look around, to be aware, to watch when you are flying, all that sort of stuff. connell mcshane on what we might be hearing from the president and what is at stake the day before turkey day. connell: we are on high alert but not necessarily a of the ordinary for president to have a meeting like the one he is having today with his homeland

security team, national security team the 4 big national holiday like the one we are about to experience tomorrow. what is out of the ordinary is to have that meeting after a terrorist attack like the one that was planned and executed in paris. officials are said to be worried, we will hear more about this, they are said to be worried about copycat attacks, copycats of what happened in paris. bolognese nothing is flash on your screen, that is white house talk for a plea to minute warning to the president. so we will see if he does that lead to minutes from now. that said the white house has been careful to point out before the meeting took place and the last couple days that they have nothing specific, no credible or specific threats against the united states homeland. in terms of a copycat attacks there were reports the visible and sent to 18,000 law enforcement officials warning them about homegrown threats saying these law-enforcement officials should be even more on

the lookout than they ordinarily would be for suspicious people who might be conducting surveillance around what are known as soft targets like the targets that were attacked in paris, the concert hall or cafes that were attacked. that is reportedly went out to law enforcement officials. as the president wraps up this meeting, we expect in a minute to come out, what americans should be thinking about, not word of the ordinary to have something like this, but with a travel warning from the state department, see if there's anything more specific we should be thinking about have thanksgiving. neil: report on what they're doing in the area to be put security, the president of the united states, what changes might be in store. >> good morning, everybody. i had a chance to meet with my national-security team including my secretary of homeland security, and my attorney

general loretta lynch, for a regular update for security posture post paris going into the holiday season. all of us recognize how horrific pan what took place in paris was and as i said yesterday many of us, the events touched the deep chord given the connection between the united states and france, the degree to which americans see in paris a way of life so familiar to us, given shocking images i know americans have been asking each other whether it is safe here, to fly or gather. i know families discuss their fears about the threat of terrorism around the dinner table, ready for the first time since september 11th. and it is understandable people worry something similar could happen here, watching the events

in paris made the threat feel closer to home. as we go into thanksgiving weekend i want the american people to know we are taking every possible step to keep our homeland safe. first we are going after isil wherever it hides. that has been our strategy for more than a year. i will speak about this in more detail in coming week but let me remind the american people what our coalition of 65 nations i doing to destroy these terrorists and to feed their ideology. military partners have conducted 8,000 airstrikes on isil strongholds and equipment, those airstrikes along with efforts of partners on the ground have taken out key leaders, taken back territory from isil in iraq and syria. we continue to choke off their financing and their supply lines and counter their recruitment

and messaging, and as america is supporting french air strikes in c rea, we agreed our countries are going to step up that coordination even further and do more of that work together. so we are stepping up pressure on isil where it lives and we will not let up. adjusting our tactics where necessary, until they are being. that is our first goal. second, we continue to do everything possible to prevent attacks at home and abroad and prevent foreign terrorist fighters from entering the united states or other nations. since 9/11 we have taken extraordinary measures to strengthen our homeland security, everything from aviation security to border security, and information sharing. we have improved upon these actions over time. anytime there is an event we learn something from it and we

continue to refine them, continue to improve upon our approaches as we speak. right now we know of no specific and credible intelligence indicating a plot on the homeland. that is based on the latest information i just received in the situation room. it is similar to the information, the briefing i received on saturday before i are left on my trip last week. as americans travel this weekend to be with their loved ones i want them to know our counterterrorism, intelligence, homeland security and law enforcement professionals at every level are working overtime, they are continually monitoring threats at home and abroad, continually evaluating our security posture, constantly working to protect all of us, their work has prevented attacks, their efforts have

saved lives, they serve every hour of every day for the sake of our security, they did so before paris and they do so now. without fanfare or credit and without a break for the holidays. the bottom line is this. i want the american people to know entering the holidays that the combined resources of our military, our intelligence and homeland security agencies are on the case. they are vigilant, relentless and affective. in the event of a specific credible threat the public will be informed. we do think it is useful for people as they go about their business to be vigilant. if you see something suspicious, say something. that is always helpful. but otherwise americans should go about their usual thanksgiving activities, spend time with family and friends,

celebrating our blessings and while the threat of terrorism is a troubling reality of our age, we are both equipped to prevent attacks and resilience in the face of those who would try to do us harm. that is something we can all be thankful for. happy thanksgiving, everybody. neil: the president saying we know of no credible threat, enjoy it thanksgiving, we got or back, we got you covered, authorities are looking at anything and everything anyone and everyone or something should go on this and if that ever escalates to that level he will let us know. reaction from former new york state's robert strain on what the president just outlined. what do you think? >> it was reassuring for the cops and special agents, military and private security people working all this weekend. he is right because everybody is working overtime, everybody is

out there 24/7 making certain this american holiday, this unique holiday is safe at such a crucial time with isis really developing and reaching out and trying to get things going around the world so it was reassuring, it was nice to hear but at the same time we still know we are on heightened alert and we know isis is here, al qaeda is here, we worry about copycat issues and things that may happen this holiday weekend. neil: a big thanksgiving day parade in manhattan getting ready for that. there is a beefed up police presence. what does that do to potential terrorists? >> it is helpful. in new york we have 1300 units for counterterrorism right here just for the parade and then all your regular police officers working the streets, very visible and clearly they will go somewhere where the cops aren't.

more cameras you have, the more police officers, more agents, the more security, the less likely these terrorists will pick, they will always look for the softest target, look where they get the most exposure and the least resistance. neil: thank you very much. not to ambassador bloomfield on the global threat here. york since having been assistant secretary of state in the early 90s what we look for in these moments? if we are safe here obviously we learn there are vulnerabilities abroad. what is the global environment like right now? >> it is similar to what we have seen in paris, thanksgiving is here. it is a holiday in america. terrorists like to get attention. the president and homeland security forces are all on alert. i am grateful to them for that but by the time you are playing

bully trying to prevent the next attack the question is how are we going to stop this in the long run? neil: in light of the global alert we know from chatter, from actual incidents, that even though we can say we are on top of things we are not, things go by, things miss us, the difference with the beat of presence 3 much everywhere, pre, it gives bad guys pause. >> they only have to succeed once and will be on 24/7 on all the media. we need to judge if we have a policy and a plan to go after isis and the country's that are supporting or enabling isis, whether their friends are or not, we need to do something comprehensive and i don't think the president is there yet. he is moving from being very passive to be more active after francois hollande was here but

this is not an all in policy at this point. neil: when the president talks about we are taking the fight isis, para freezing here, talking about these airstrikes and how effective they have been, i don't want to be cynical or jaded but they were not affected enough to stop what happened in paris or belgium or what might happen in belgium. and bragging about that. >> isis, i have not seen what you could call a decisive operation to end the isis presence in iraq and syria. i have not seen a decisive operation to stop bashar al-assad from using isis as a diversion. we of the transition under way but it is not a real transition until he is gone and the refugees won't go back even if we defeat isis. the rigor and out by bashar al-assad regime and syrian military. until we have a real transition in syria they are never going back. if we do have a transition in syria that takes the tall level

of of the regime we can persuade the refugees to create a better stereo which would be the beginning of fighting isis. iraq is the same thing. we have problems there. the sunnis have no place to go, the corruption is endemic, she at militias are driving the into the arms of isis and iran is behind an vladimir putin is guilty as well so there's a lot we have to do. we have to figure out and get serious. neil: thank you. hope you have a safe thanksgiving. when we come back, karl rove on the search for another ronald reagan. you know there were couple ronald reagans. you might not know william mckinley might have been one of them. karl rove connects in history. that is down right historic and timely right about now. i have asthma...

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neil: the president backing of a brief statement in the roosevelt room of the white house saying as we get ready for thanksgiving be careful, be vigilant, look around, we are on top of things, everything is okay. the thing is with this president, growing concern on the left and the right that she is isis strategy isn't exactly working. you here in the campaign among republicans there is a search for another reagan. leave it to karl rove to go back further to a guy, until reading karl's latest book, that there was another reagan. william mckinley was the author. not a lot to get into, parallels are interesting. this line treated me near the end of the book, mckinley would

naturally be optimistic. and settle in political conduct. if he seemed above the fray and genuinely respectable, engaging guide. >> iran at campaign unchanged american politics, gilded age politics looks like today, two political parties right against each other divided government with one party in the white house and the other controlling congress or branches of it and five presidential elections, five in a row where nobody gets 50% of the vote, two presidents elected with minority of the popular vote and majority of electoral college, when president when the electoral college and popular vote, popular vote by 7,000, mckinley win the election which is up in the air and the political system changes and for the next 36 years republicans dominate the political landscape. neil: between the capital -- >> they controlled the white

house for 28, and they only get -- neil: interrupted by woodrow wilson. >> republican party splits in 1912, control the senate for 30, 26, more governors and state legislatures than the next 90 years. neil: why is he like the rodney dangerfield of the president. by the way comes across as a little obsequious worm. >> he is. neil: you hit him. >> i like him but you got to acknowledge this man, theodore roosevelt has become an ambitious weasel to rescue his political career. is impossible for him to become the man he becomes to dominate the american political stage unless he does what he does in the 1890's 6 campaign. i like roosevelt but winced at these letters he writes. neil: he seems like a funny but wormed his way onto the ticket. >> wears his way into the good graces of mckinley and mcginley gives them, rescues him

political oblivion even though he tells the couple from cincinnati who are promoting him for the assistant secretary of the navy i do not trust your young man roosevelt, he is too pugnacious and saw in him the challenge of the future and is not the only man. he berates a letter just after mckinley gets nominated, he says he is a good man but, quote, he is weak and i worry about him in a moment of crisis and shortly thereafter one of his closest friends as we must do everything we can end when we do you must be in the cabinets. neil: everyone knows what happened. >> he is not the only exceptional young man. another one runs the campaign who by the time of the election just turned 31, the son mckinley never had a completely obscure in the '95 when mckinley put him in charge of his primary campaign in the gettysburg contest that has run his general election campaign because at 32 the comptroller of the currency

for is directed a bureau in the budget, vice president of the united states, ambassador of great britain, head of the reconstruction finance corp. and fourth american to win the nobel peace prize the mckinleys and out of obscurity and says this young man -- -- neil: karl rove of his time. we think of candidates to succeed inbecoming president as the sort of put offish figures but they deal with a great deal -- i didn't realize he was two children and then one born on christmas day. >> he called the geek who died at the age of 5 his favorite christmas present. the death of his two daughters causes his wife to spiral. neil: she sees worse in terms of stability. >> she suffers some kind of concussion or traumatic brain injury and suckers epilepsy and is completely depressed the rest of her life. neil: he stands byher. >> he was in an enormous

integrity, one of the great saving graces, people looked at him, one of my favorite lines, my opponents in congress always apologize to william before they attacked him and this was the kind of man he was and he had at unifying message in the election that brought the country together but more important than that, he took on the toughest economic issue of the times, the battle over what kind of money we would have, gold or silver and put the conservative economic case in words the ordinary working people could understand and as a results with the labor bill, the swing election. neil: very unusual for a republican, very unusual now. a message from his presidency that republican candidates should take. >> three. one is pick on the big issues and find a way to talk about them in a way that will win the middle-class. the middle class or later. second of all be involved in addition, not subtraction, first

republican president, the republican party was a lost party, white anglo-saxon protestant. he becomes the first republican candidate for president endorsed by -- explosive when the bishop of st. paul endorses him. reach out to the new immigrants, new voters in america and that those people to the coalition and the final one his he had this message of confidence in unity for the future and optimism. neil: a lot of common sense. and spectators. and the 3 million people show up and mckinley remains in canton, ohio, 750,000 americans travel at their expense 2-seat in canton and it is an industrial campaign that is hard for us to grasp, groups of people getting off the train, going to town square, marking up market

street, prancing on to his front lawn and hearing from the great man and they depart and five minutes later another group shows up. neil: amazing. the triumph of mckinley, 1896 dagen: is and you don't get into what happened with the reelection. >> they get into sex, violence, backstabbing. neil: this is that g rated broadcast. i chose to ignore that but i like the wormy presentation of teddy roosevelt. this has broadway play written all over it if you are looking at another broadway play. last time i checked hamilton is doing okay. a little more after this. jeb bush: here's the truth you will not hear

from our president: we are at war with radical islamic terrorism. it is the struggle that will determine the fate of the free world. the united states should not delay in leading a global coalition to take out isis with overwhelming force. their aim is our total destruction. we can't withdraw from this threat or negotiate with it. we have but one choice: to defeat it. vo: right to rise usa is responsible for the content of this message.

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okay. jeff. >> no, sir. not at all. i have never seen it like this. take a look at this terminal. the number one terminal, the united terminal, it looks like a ghost town compared to what it normally looks like. it is not just a o'hare. in terms of delays and cancellations, less than 402 leis and 28, i think it is 21 now flights canceled. on a good day or a bad day, you can have 20 cancellations within an hour. i spoke with two people that said chief gas. we will drive this year. we will not go through the hassle with this travel warning out there. come on down. i wish i was traveling today.

neil: okay. they give very much. i am sure there are other airports where it is a big problem. the latest now from ashley webster in brussels. this lockdown is easing up. what can you tell us? >> yes, it is. four days of a lockdown. the terror threat has not gone down. they opened some of the schools and universities in the cities. sections of the city's subway system. the terror threat. many suspect that they would like to question. they are now saying we have to get on with our life. where these other two suspects that are subjects of a massive manhunt right now.

the two men seen in the car driving before the attack. they'll jump is a bit wrapped in a mystery. it has french speakers, german speakers, dutch speakers. because of that, it is hard to track down terrorists. the two brothers, 150 yards across the square on the city hall. neil: incredible. thank you very much. ashley webster. the turks say this plane veered into their territory. we are waiting for the response from the russians. there was no intention for a war against turkey. we do not intend to wage a war on turkey.

we have questions over the action of turkey's current leadership. why the plane was shot down. they insist it was knotted turkish airspace. otherwise, they have to double down with the violets and shoot at the pilots. you know what has all transpired. vladimir putin has not been seen or spoken about it. this represented a heinous act against the russian people. more than one year and a half old video. it has led to already a lot of confirmation and activity. so far, nothing out of the pale. chicago's tried to keep its cool. a protest is planned minutes from now.

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neil: in chicago you saw the video. two years after the fact. more than a year after the fact. the shooting of the 17-year-old black male. once again, raising concerns. could we have another ferguson on our hands.

ron christie after ferguson, we all have to be cautious. good to have you. >> good to see you, neil. neil: how do they handle this? it did not give violent. >> i think that it is all about organizations. also community organizers. you have to have an avenue for those that are upset and they have their grievances. working with public safety officials to make sure that things do not get out of hand. it looks really tense. thankfully, only one person shot and killed after this. seven people shot and killed in chicago yesterday. neil: it is not like ferguson. kind of contributing to this. this is a very old incidents.

people knew about it. talked about it. obviously. >> this is nearly 16 months ago. the former white house chief of staff determined it was in the public's best interest to release this. why are you doing it now? why are you doing it on the eve of thanksgiving? neil: coming after this and saying here we go again. >> yes. you are putting fuel on the fire. why are you doing this? it is horrific. what is this going to do other than flame the community? neil: missing the bigger focus. >> where is the outrage. what is going on in chicago. september this year alone, 59 murders. a majority of those are african americans. why are they not protesting what is going on day after day.

two back-to-back weekends in chicago where over 50 people were shot. no outrage. it is only when there is a sense of why people getting down. what about black some blacks? it just not seem to resonate. neil: we will keep an eye out. prevailing everone keeps calm. more news out of turkish officials in russia. we are not going to war against turkey. the problems is with the leadership. releasing audio recording of them warning that they were nearing into the space. repeatedly doing so. they are stating that was not the case. it was not oversteering up here and now we have this indicating

just the opposite veered the pilots were warned again and again and again he had get out. they did not. we will have more after this. ♪

neil: we just told you about the russians have said whether or not it was shot down whether it was oversteering and airspace, they are saying no. we have the order to prove it. we also talked about the foreign minister, the leadership in turkey, not the turkish people. we will not go to war over this. what does vladimir putin do right now? a very tense situation.

the book is not playing out in real life form. >> unfortunately, it was unexpected. >> eight months. >> no. the united kingdom. japan. it works out. the americans know japanese or the ex- corded russian planes out. neil: -- >> this is not just an exercise testing turkish results. the north of syria. no ice is there. they need to give the russians a

second pilot. he knew the region even without a map. the right path. by the way, russian planes. they controlled by opposition forces backed by america. >> it may follow under russian foreign ministry. obviously, a bit of a pickle here. he has to respond. what does he do? >> i do not think that there will be a response. they are too strong. i think they will retaliate. some economic sanctions.

maybe. the problem for putin is it will hurt many russians. he will be contemplating. the most problem destination. a huge business. billions of dollars in trade. the best interest of russian class. at the same time, you are right. a bit of prestige. an image of a strong man. neil: that is what i am thinking of. what does a macho guy do? >> keeping turkish allies in syria. again, sticking to the original plan. conflict in the region.

let's not forget, playing straight into putin's hands. new york isn't political turmoil. it benefits him directly. cannot oppose russian immigration in ukraine or elsewhere. neil: what happened in paris and belgium and etc., there may be some unifying factors here. actually, it may, in a weird way, unite the world the putin. he has not been fighting isis. he has no interest. putin is there with a very different agenda. neil: the forces that he is gunning for, literally.

>> absolutely. it is a very strange equation there. putin and the terrorists, by the way, you should ask israelis about their reaction to the terrorist coming from groups friendly to russia and iran. i think they barely give any credit for fighting terror. it will help you to push the agenda elsewhere in europe. i expect that even more. more the conflicts in the middle east. putin needs high oil prices. he is not getting that. >> we should look at the map and realized most of the oil fields is northeast of the country. they are there in territories populated by shiite.

who knows what is in putin's mind. we will not retaliate directly. neil: wow. man, all man. chapter by chapter. he is laying out the world as it is right now. a lot of announcements being laid out before where this book even came out. all right. when we come back, first schiphol tape. unfortunately, we do not have gerri willis talking about loaded diarrhea. i am telling you, that was the issue. after this. ♪ we live in a pick and choose world.

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seriously. it is upsetting. e. coli evidence itself. it gets to be a big drop on. that is why i am sharing this with you. it is my medical duty. connell mcshane is with me now. connell: it is beyond schiphol tape to cosco. believe it or not, cosco sounds worse than schiphol tape. nineteen people infected with e. coli. this is from chicken salad. rotisserie chicken salad. five of these people had to be hospitalized. no deaths have been reported. two people ended up with kidney failure. they came down with it. it could lead to permanent organ damage. it has been very serious. stop selling this chicken salad

did at least they know what was causing it. cosco, you may remember was linked to salmonella outbreak last year. forty cases linked to e. coli, food poisoning at chipolte. again, the costco story seems to be more serious. neither company, financially, would you want it to be associated with your name. organ failure. kidney failure in at least a couple of these people. >> two very different types of chains. two very different types of food. connell: guess, you are right. with triple date, they did not really know what it was. it has been a few weeks now since anyone has been sick.

with costco, they have been able to trace it to this chicken salad. neil: talking about when billionaires try to prove who is smarter. what is going on here? >> earlier this week, privately funding and was able to launch a rocket into space. it landed vertically. it stood up. it did not fail. he tweeted, his first tweet saying it is that rarest. congrats. we have been orbiting in space. we have already had a water landing. neil: it is in orbit. >> exactly. it is a reasonable rocket. it is cheaper.

they can potentially do more on these space missions. elon mustang, oh, no. we too can do it. >> the rockets end up crashing. landing on the platform and the ocean. they will try again. earlier, dagen mcdowell had a great comment. even though they are both billionaires, their skin is still pretty thin. neil: we try not to quote dagen here. >> we love her. neil: back down to air it. this is a good thing i think for science overall. >> that is for you and your whole generation. all right. i love her. a former new jersey governor on a message on 9/11.

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. neil: all right. we were showing you -- rather than not so busy chicago airport that kind of, you know, cramps our style and theme here that everyone's nervous to fly. but i actually think as i told jeff flock, it helped our message here. people are so scared to fly be with they're not going to the airports so you don't see these long lines. so either way, this scare tactic is pretty much evidencing itself. no one knows which ended up, just that they're a little anxious traveling into this thanksgiving season, more on that. seth, what do you make of this and the president's statement not too long ago that, you know, go about your normal business, go about flying, have fun with grandma, et cetera, but just be

vigilant? >> yeah. it's certainly the alert yesterday i think of how broad it was something catastrophic is imminent but you got the sense that they confidential say that nothing out there is brewing. neil: you're a pro at this. you're experienced, you read in parts where it's closely the day before they talked about getting to the airport a half hour earlier, so i guess you have to get to the airport now a day before your flight leaves. then they started saying wait a minute. now there's this. what happened? what usually happens? >> yeah. well, remember this isn't just about airplanes and airports. i mean we're talking about just threats everywhere in the world. and what we've seen over the past decade and a half, neil, is that it's one thing to secure the airport and all of the tsa's flaws and flaws of the counterparts around the world, airports are more secure than they once were but what happened in paris, that's a threat troubles travelers

too and this is basically them saying, look, the airports in this country might be reasonably secure but we can say that something like that can happen somewhere in the world. neil: but what does that mean? when i hear terms be vigilant, it's like the see something, say something, but when you're at an airport flying, when you're on a airplane,. >> and here we see so many false positives, and that's the tricky part. you know, honestly, neil, so much of this comes down to not airport security and quite honestly people necessarily being vigilant, it comes down to intelligence, national intelligence because when you think about it, the things that have gone wrong and the things that have gone right starting with 9/11, really the successes or failures having been intelligence. 9/11, the reaction to that understandably enough was,

hey, we need stronger security at the airports but those box cutters that got through, those were legal on that day. it wasn't a failure at the checkpoint, it was a failure of these guys who wanted to learn how to fly airplanes but not land them and, you know, on the other hand there was that plot now almost a decade ago out of london where they were going to blow up all of these planes resulted in the liquids ban, there it was the opposite. that was an intelligence success in that case. they didn't find the guys at the airport, the authority infiltrated that organization, it was an al-qaeda affiliate. so really it comes down toggle more broad intelligence. i wish it was all about just watching for things at the airport. neil: yeah, we get why accidentally to your point. seth, thank you very, very much. i hope you have a safe and happy thanksgiving. >> likewise, neil,. neil: all right. he's the most impossible governor has

ever had, i'm not talking about chris christy, i'm talking about john cane, republicans or democrats respected, republicans admired and the state itself functions actually quite well. so with that impeccable going for him, no surprise that president chose him to author a 9/11 commission report to get to the bottom of what happens. break down in communication, try to get this in some sort of sense of what happened. but this idea of could it happen again? the governor with me now. i'm wondering, governor, with that, you express fears that we're missing things again or we're -- not to the point that it could be another 9/11, but we are just missing things. like what? >> well, we're not, to me, lee hamlet and i wrote a bit the other day that said basically we're concentrating so much on military that we're not putting all the other weapons in our arsenal to work and

we're not going to win this war militarily, not unless we win it on the ground and also ideological. we've got the better story to tell, we have to get that story across. neil: but men buy the line that we're evil don't hear that story. >> no. they don't and that's what we've got to remember. they've got a strategy. the strategy, for instance, when they do an attack is to hope that everybody gets scared and life doesn't go on normally and our life suffers and all of the sudden. so people living in their own life normally is a weapon against these people. they all want to say it's a war between civilizations. everybody hates muslims, we're going to be the crusaders, so every time we do something in opposition to that, every time we work cooperatively with muslims, every time we integrate them properly, that should blow against al-qaeda. neil: i was referring to your report and into the report

when i quoted -- so i apologize for that. but it must have been subliminal because both reports were ignored. more taken up in congress hamilton's the bottom line is i see communication as a huge issue, governor, and it came up in these attacks where they weren't communicating these urgencies of the guys around the land, even in boston where the local police were not aware of what intelligence were saying. i don't know who was right or who was wrong, all know in london a couple of times, certainly in madrid, why does that happen? >> it's difficult. we have 17 different intelligence agencies, people don't know that and it's so hard to corporate with each other and the stream has to be seamless. in other words, if you or i see something on the street and we tap the local policeman on the shoulder and say, hey, there's something wrong here,

if that's serious, it has to go straight up to washington and straight down, if somebody ignores what's happening somewhere in the string, there's a stop, then we're in trouble. that's what happened in 9/11. the fbi knew things, the cia knew things, they didn't work together. . neil: well, i always hear from local police, governor, of any city, any level and even in paris we're finding out that rodney danger fields, they don't get the respect and no one bothers to communicate with them, and it's even played out in tv shows if you think about it. move aside, sergeant, we're in charge here, and they feel it and they resent it. >> and they should resent it. bringing groups to washington, they take them to the headquarters and the area where we see the surveillance of all the people coming into this country, they try to bring them in on the action, and then they've got local setters, which brings most states now that brings leaders from the community together with the police, together with people from the federal level so they kansas each other and

coordinate. are they better? yes. neil: you know, people in politician all the time say better position to pounce on this, chris christy, one of your successors as a former prosecutor what he had to go through shortly after 9/11. do you agree with that that he's better positioned than other republican candidates? >> look, i think chris christy is a very, very able guy, i know of very few people who are as able as chris christy. neil: why doesn't he register in the polls? >> i think he's doing better in the polls. but there are some very competent people in here. neil: a lot of the money is going to marco rubio lately. what do you think of that? >> well, i think people see him as a young leader, i think a lot of people think he's a good contrast to hillary clinton. running against the old generation, i don't know but a lot of people are going that

direction. governor kasich like governor christy's has been an able governor. neil: an able governor, whether you agree or disagree with what they did, that doesn't seem to help you. >> no. >> but it should. neil: yes. >> the president shouldn't be the only job in the country where no experience necessary. neil: maybe not a fan of donald trump? >> i am a friend of donald trump, i'm an old friend of donald trump. he's had business experience. neil: so you would support him if he was the party's nomination. >> i suspect so. neil: you said i suspect so. >> yeah. i would have to look at it. neil: really? >> to me, this is the most presidential election probably of my lifetime. the country's in some trouble, we've got to the things we have to do things economically, we need a really great president. and the reason i haven't endorsed anybody yet, i want

to make sure i have the right one. neil: you read my mind. and personal question, governor, one of the best -- and i think the best our state's had and i say this as a new jerseyan, you got things done, it wasn't easy to do, you didn't do it with a lot of bluster or curse at people and tell them to shut up, so does it bother you at some level and i know the whole chris christy protége thing there, but do you sent the governor -- it's all politics i know but does that bother you on any level? >> well, -- neil: he's the greatest governor and you don't get the credit? >> everybody's always the greatest governor. neil: but do you think he's the first to reach across the aisle -- >> no. what i do believe that's so important. i had done a list with my three democratic senate

presidents when i was governor. and we were reveling in the fact that we got so much done together because we became friends across the aisle. neil: but you would think it's the first -- look at me. i have great admiration of chris christy. he's a neighbor of mine. but you would think he's the first republican governor to do a lot of this stuff. >> well, no, a number of -- democrats are some of them. done that too. kasich did -- neil: well, not florida. >> well, -- neil: didn't happen in florida. >> no. neil: there's no bitterness, there's no. >> no. neil: and -- neil: there's a little. i think you're hurt. emotionally you're hurt. >> the nice thing is that you've got friends in both sides of the aisle and now -- we're still friends, we still talk about it and still work on issues together that we both believe in. neil: do you think anyone could get back to the days both sides have reagan-type analogy where you work and get things done together? >> we have to. . neil: i know we have to. >> it's not a choice. we've got to -- and we should be very -- when it comes to

the general election, we should be very careful on questioning the candidates on that subject. are you going to reach out? what's more this president has more than the last president did? reach out to the other side, have them to the white house, talk about these issues together, see where you can work out compromises -- neil: did you do that? did you bring them to whatever the governor -- >> and i went to them. neil: reagan got drunk with them i'm told, did i do that? >> i never did that. neil: really? >> it's not to my memory. [laughter] . neil: to your memory. >> if i did, i probably wouldn't admit it. neil: wanted to reveal something embarrassing just completely torpedoed. didn't work. honor to see you. >> good to be here. neil: and both sides say what i said, at each others throats. gentlemen got things done. a lot of things done. all right. through all of this in the meantime it's climate change. they're going to have a world meeting, a world powwow on

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but do you think that with everything happening in paris, with everything going on right now, with heightened terror attacks, the world over, people on pins and needles, the world over, only not that many crowds in chicago, but you get my point. the world over that a climate change conference if you're going to assemble 150 countries is advisable right about now? if they're going to come, that's fine and you don't want to cancel that because it looks bad but can't you just reassign the subject and maybe table climate change for a little while? julia, i think you think it's a good idea. keep doing it. why? >> well, i think it's a good idea for several reasons, the least of which you've got world leaders in one place. i'm pretty sure it's more than climate change is going to be on the docket here. neil: i doubt it. i think they're going to talk about and that's it.

>> i'm sorry? . neil: drop climate change, there will be a follow-up meeting, right now we've got these nuts in the world ready to blow up people. worry about that -- >> but you know who the president travels with, he's traveling with a ton of advisors, some are i'm sure counterterrorism people and they can walk and chew gum at the same time. neil: i don't know about that. i don't know about that. lisa, what do you think? >> oh, i'm sure. >> well, neil, we had 129 people murdered in paris in a multibomb military style attack, 224 people killed in a russian airline, the entire state of brussels shut down for days and, you know, additionally hostages taken and murder in mali. yet we have a president that continues to prioritize his liberal and environmental agenda above the safety of the american people. just recently, neil, the former acting ci director mike

said we have avoided hitting oil targets specifically to prevent environmental damage. neil: i don't know, i didn't hear that, it wouldn't surprise me but what i am wondering about, julie, whether we send a wrong message to terrorists. if they -- let's say you're isis and you're in a cave or wherever they hang out and you hear about this big global conference they're having, it's on climate change. what do you think? >> well, first of all, i'm certainly not somebody who has been defending the president's foreign policy with respect to isis is on it's not like i'm sitting here carrying his water for him, but as i said i'm convinced there's going to be business done at this conference. if we have to use the excuse of climate change to get that done, that's fine. neil: what is it? you acknowledge this is a stupid idea. >> i acknowledge that it would be a duty for any president in this situation to simply focus on climate change when you've got so many of the counterparts around the world gathered there and he can use this opportunity and will use the opportunity, of course he'll use this opportunity to talk about more than just climate change. i'm sorry. that was on the

docket before paris, and i'm certain that it's now on the docket and even and we are the bigger components after paris . neil: final word, lisa. >> well, neil, the only rebuke of isis that the american people should be showing is hunting them down and sending them to the fiery gates of hell. but the biggest problem here is this -- this radicalization of the environments that president obama and his radical agenda isn't just to him. it's also hillary clinton, bernie sanders that are saying that global warming is a bigger threat than terrorism and this is a problem, especially when you have someone like the top democrat like feinstein on the intelligence committee rebuking president obama's plan on isis and saying that it's not working and that isis is not contained. . neil: all right, ladies, i want to thank you both. have a great thanksgiving. >> you too. >> thank you, no. neil: in the meantime a lot of reaction to my chat with billionaire who has put his cards on one marco rubio. he explained to me exactly why. take a look.

>> . neil: thunk terror issue has pivoted marco rubio to the forefront? >> i think it will. i don't think it has yet, but i think it will. neil: charlie gasparino on whether other billionaires follow and whether that makes a difference. i think you're focusing on another guy; right? >> ted cruz. if you look at the republican base and who has the best shot of making that republican base. if you think donald trump's going to followed, if you think ben carson's going to followed, it's clearly ted cruz. he appears to the tea parties, very good fundraising in texas, initially it was south texas where he was very strong, the oil money, he's now ventured up to north texas, by the way, texas we should point out is like the wall street of the south. now from what i understand is his fundraisers are making inroads to wall street. they are asking to wall street financiers to giving money. neil: is he having any luck? >> i don't know yet.

i will know in a week or so. neil: generates the passion. >> and here's why he's doing it now. his poll numbers are getting better in iowa and nationally . neil: almost even with trump in iowa. if you're trump, you're going to unload on him. >> i should point out it was an outlier state, often you have people in iowa. neil: no doubt. but it's saying something that for his surge. >> yeah. his surge is national. neil: absolutely sector and has appeals to those two broad constituencies, and he does have hooks into the establishment. the knock on him is that when he was in the senate, you know, it doesn't work people, he's kind of in transit guy, i don't think that hurts -- neil: sounds like you. >> yeah. i'm not saying there's anything wrong with that, i'm just saying what the knock on him is. neil: but i also say he's unelectable where as marco rubio is. >> they say jeb bush was the best shot. neil: very good point. >> no one knows what's going to happen. and, by the way, this all presupposes donald trump's fate. i am not convinced he will. listen, i've been very skeptical of his candidacy

from day one because i didn't think earlier wanted it. if he watches this thing and watches his mouth, he can win it. he's got to stay away from the crazy stuff because he does fire up a lot of people -- you know, it's interesting. neil: when i talk about it with anyone, anyone, let's say from the establishment part of the party, they winch when you mention donald trump as the nominee, and some will back off. >> i was out. neil: they will say, well, of course i'll support our nominee. but they will always run back and say, well, he will not be -- >> talk to -- yeah, they always say that. and all -- every one of these campaigns is predicated to o donald folding. that remember. neil: that's right. >> and i've taken my shots. i like donald personality but some of his rhetoric i have problems with. but i will say this. when i talk to base voters, i had a chance to do that earlier in the week, i had a chance to go back to my hometown in westchester, these are working class-based voters, they all want trump.

neil: and that's not a passing fad. >> no. these aren't right wing -- these are christian coalitions, working class blue-collar people, they want donald. and that is -- he could blow it. a couple more comments about thousands of people -- neil: some say he's unelectable because ruby can bring in more of a wider coalition that would be dangerous to hillary. >> that's their -- by the way, that was -- always been their theory. neil: yeah. >> but how's donald doing in polls versus hillary? not so bad. neil: yeah. >> but he's an interesting guy in the sense that he's so polarizing. i always wonder if he really wants to win this. he's going to call me and scream at me because if he wanted to win it, all he had to do was dial it back a little bit and spend some money. neil: he's doing it great the way he's doing it. in the meantime we know that black friday is coming and everybody gets excited about it, including protesters, especially when it comes to a

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neil: all right. why waste a good crowd. we'll see lots of big crowds on black friday. some on thanksgiving day itself. ck restaurants ceo says he can kind of play this out know what will happen. the protesters are gunning for the walmarts of the world, maybe some of the others, but those demanding still higher wages even though walmart already raised its minimum wage, not enough to these guys liking. they want 15 bucks. andy says that is going to be a job killer. he joins us now. andy, good to have you. >> neil, good to be here, thanks. neil: this is almost a rite of passage protests outside of stores black friday. particularly walmart. gets it all the time. what do you make of it doing so this year? >> well it is kind of strange boeing after walmart. they took the minimum wage up to

$9 an hour. invest ad billion dollars in that increase. next year they're going up to 10. they will invest another 2.billion. they are paying taking a part of hit earnings per share of 6 to 12%. the shareholders will absorb some of the hit. neil: you know, that is not $15. it is not $15. they want $15. >> $15 will kill jobs, stop expand un-- expansion. goo into walmart and retailers most of the people are behind the registers. they're not walking around the store to help you out. they're behind the register. as you know if you go to grocery store, airport, those are jobs easily be replaced by automation. marco rubio brought that up in the last debate. automation can take care of these jobs and solve increase. if they're careful what they will have is no job as opposed to job where they make more money. neil: you're a mover and shaker in the republican party.

a big backer of mitt romney. you heard the cofinance chair his money and backing on marco rubio. what is going on here? i do see a number of former romney guys who are sort of trickling on over to rubio. >> i think, when you were talking to charlie you hit the nail on the head. a lot of people view marco as very, very electable. he's young. you know, we can't win this election if we're the bigoted, anti-woman, anti-immigrant party. marco was in favor of reforming immigration rationally. he is young. he goes against everything that hillary clinton is, which is tied to the past, tied to corruption. here's a fresh face, somebody -- this is how barack obama got elected. we're going to come along with hope and change. we're still hoping and not getting the kind of change we wanted. marco rubio could maybe implement policies. he has the right idealogical background. he could implement policies that would move the country forward

in very dynamic way. i think there is a lot of support for marco rubio. there is a lot of good people out there. neil: a lot of passion for ted cruz. the establishment wing of the party for wont of a better term because i know cruz isn't traditionally establishment begins to find alternative to donald trumps or what have you and those twos guys are going to fight it out. do you buy that. >> no. one problem with ted cruz, he is brilliant guy and very articulate, the problem with ted cruz, people don't expect republicans to get along with democrats. they like it to get along. least expect it if you're republicans if republicans get along with other republicans. in the senate he hasn't been able to do that. he comes out strongly against immigration policy and it needs to be reformed rationally. one the big problems he called about self-deportation. people say, mitt was kind of

middle of the road and -- well that is not true. m.i.t. was very conservative. his comment about self-deportation, about 47% weren't comments by a liberal middle of the road guy. they were comments by very conservative guy and they didn't help. neil: yeah. >> i don't think ted cruz is as electable as marco rubio. marco rubio is much better shop. neil: you take it as given mainstream media will pounce on remarks like that. >> they will. neil: andy, have a great thanksgiving. >> you too, neil. neil: thank you very much. who wins in the strategizing how to fight latest war on terror just in the republican party? how do you think it is factoring out? we have very interesting revelations after this tucson.

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neil: all right. these protests gotten underway in chicago all in response to the video police finally released. better than 14, 15 months old of a 19-year-old male that was overkill literally. he was pumped filled with 16 bullets. it is horrifying and shocking to many in the chicago community, black and white. it is infuriating this protest orderly as things go. hopefully doesn't turn into ferguson or worse.

we'll keep on a eye on it for you. blake burman on gop candidates responding to the latest terror threats and role nsa should play, blake? reporter: neil, a vote taken back in earl june coming into focus late november as we head into december and closer to the first votes being cast here in a couple of months. there is a battle brewing between senators marco rubio and ted cruz over domestic surveillance and this just picked up again within the last hour or so. i take you back to earlier this summer, cruz, he voted for surveillance reforms in usa freedom act, that ended nsa from spearheading mass phone data collection and transferred that responsibility over to the phone companies. rubio voted against it. now a super-pac funded by a top supporter for rubio is running a tv spot in iowa tying cruz to president obama's support for the new law, saying, cruz essentially weakened national security. rubio has been openly critical,

very recently of cruz's vote as well. just about 45 minutes or so ago in south carolina where rubio was campaigning today, he took a veiled swipe right at cruz over that vote saying, we are weakening our intelligence programs. here it was. >> they were weakened by a traitor named edward snowden and they have been weakened by our own political officials, some in our own party who have taken away tools we need to find these killers before they find us. reporter: the cruz campaign ask pushing back hard on this one. spokesperson said, speaking about that super-pac ad, they said, quote, the establishment is in full panic mode. now as far as cruz goes he was interviewed last night by meagan kelly. he is trying to flip the narrative around to a different senate measure. cruz said this is all just distraction from rubio's initial support for immigration reform. >> when ted cruz had the chance to fight barack obama's dangerously weak anti-terror policies he didn't. instead cruz voted to weaken

america's ability to identify and hunt down terrorists. reporter: got the sound bites mixed up there, neil. that is the super-pac ad airing either way, cruz told meagan kelly last night he says marco rubio is basically trying to change the discussion on this. that is why it kind of pivoted back here to the the nsa. of course there is third candidate being involved here, that being rand paul. cruz came to senate floor to support paul's filibuster last june. paul felt the new law on the books didn't go far enough. you have these three candidates but for the moment clearly a rubio-cruz battle. neil: i have a feeling not just for the moment. have a great thanks giving. blake burman in washington. finding bad guys wherever they are, has to be an app for that. joshua katz, terror view founder on security app who alerts users to bad guys that might be nearby. how does it work? tell me about it.

>> neil for the first time ever people will have access to information, awareness, and recommendations by former intelligence officers through terror view they never had before. we're going through hundreds of thousands of sources of data. we're analyzing it at points by hand to make sure that people have the awareness that they need in order not to be fearful and to understand what the threat actually is and get beyond the rhetoric. neil: all right. so how would it work then? in other words if i'm punching in where i am going to go, for rome for vacation or wherever, is that how it works? you cite the dangers there or what? explain. >> we're looking for threats, mostly threats directed against america and directed against the homeland right now. we do have threats all over the world but we're looking at threats that are really going to impact and change americans lives so that we can better be informed and start to have the conversation we really need to have, with the information. neil: what are you basing it on?

on real intelligence or chatter now? i mean you would picked up with this, what was going on in paris? >> so we have, we're tracking now a whole bunch of threats. one of the threats we're tracking now, see this in the app, threat against airlines. isis is really moving to try to regain sort of a foothold here, by asking volunteers around the world to disrupt flights. that is one of the things users will see. this is chatter. stuff in bad actors own words in a lot of cases. then my intelligence officers, we do a bunch of analysis so that people can have a lot more information. neil: real quickly, then, the one place that you can at least tell us is for -- that you wouldn't go? >> i think there is a lot of places but the one thing the app does is to give you the ability to have the conversation but what your risk is and to see what the actual threat is beyond

this sort of state department travel ban. neil: right. >> we need to travel smartly. and to understand that -- neil: i know is there one place that stands out? >> there is a lot of places. obviously middle east and north africa. neil: okay. >> but i would really be careful in western europe and in parts of the american southwest. neil: incredible. the app is out. joshua is the guy behind it. thank you very much. good having you. >> thanks, neil. neil: just when you thought this whole war on christmas thing sort of died down, in staten island it just blew up. a dad, granddad, who is furious and not letting it go down. can a business have a mind? a subconscious. a knack for predicting the future. reflexes faster than the speed of thought. can a business have a spirit? can a business have a soul? can a business be...alive?

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now they pushed it outside. if you do want to see santa, you have to go by the left-wing of parking lot. between the tercel and the volkswagen. it is weird. who do i know in staten island would get fired up over something, thinking of scott mcgraf, single-handedly changed way the government responded to sandy and suing their butts off because how delayed the response is. not happy about this good to see you my friend. >> how are you doing? neil: what is going on here? no one seemed to mind that the christmas tree was there. what happened? >> it is politically correct. everybody has to be politically correct. neil: what is politically incorrect about having a christmas tree inside of the mall? >> i have no clue. 160, over 160 countries around this world celebrate some form of christmas. either father time, christmas, st. nick. neil: father climate change. >> less than, less than 35 countries in this world celebrate christmas.

christmas, let's forget about being a religious holiday. go to any kid and ask them what chris has is? it is christmas lights, santa claus, decorations. neil: where is santa claus. >> where is santa claus to the kids? neil: parking lot b? >> supposedly in the mall there, somewhere by jcpenney's shoved in a corner. but -- neil: an any's pretzels. >> right. the problem is, you have big companies like macy's jcpenney's and sears. macy's is biggest parade goer and sponsor. neil: they have trees all over their store. >> correct. they say owner of the mall. so i say, well, you don't want to hurt the business but you have to hurt the business to make the owners understand. neil: i don't understand, how it hurts the owner or the store? people of all persuasions, i would include, jews, muslims, christians, those who practice, those who don't, it is a given and hardly an offense. >> right. the problem is, they're letting

tradition go away. neil: why? what are they telling people in staten island? >> i have heard they told their employees not to say merry christmas. has to be happy holidays. neil: for god's sakes. >> that's wrong. christmas has been celebrated over 5, 600 years and it has been that way since we were all kids. you know what? just look at little kids face, ask him what christmas is? it's santa claus. they don't care what legend it. it is not offensive you tell me happy hanukkah, happy kwanzaa, merry christmas. you know what? more people enjoy when you actually acknowledge what their beliefs can be. so if you go to jewish man and say happy hanukkah, he is going to respond to you. neil: what does he do when you say happy kwanzaa to him? i guess he is a little jarred. >> whoever it is. neil: i see your point. i don't know why all of sudden it became a big issue, but shove

it outside almost says shove the whole practice outside. >> liberals in the city of new york. the same mall owners own new jersey. neil: short hills mall. >> wood bridge mall, the same owners. they have christmas stuff there, christmas trees. neil: oh really? >> they didn't take it out there. new york city, liberal state. politically correct you have to be. neil: not on our watch. >> not here, buddy. neil: how is the fight going with sandy guys? >> they're going to fight. there it is a whole different story. we have to make sure tradition of christmas stays in the united states and around the world for the children, because the children are the ones that will be our future. they need hope and have to have belief. neil: i hear ya. >> having christmas is having belief. neil: sticking santa outside of annie's pretzel shop will not do it. not on our shop. >> that's right. neil: we'll have more after this.

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neil: all right, whatever your views on santa getting kicked to the curb in staten island, that won't happen, if i have anything to do about it, what about santa rally, will that happen? charles payne, john layfield. charlie, what do you think? >> starting to happen already. we made a move. a cusp of breaking out where a lot of sideline money may pour out. good sign yesterday, dollar tree and tiffany both missed. both down tremendously. both stocks ended higher tremendous of the those are sort of tells -- neil: extreme ends. >> extreme ends of the curve. a lot of stocks are actually oversold this market. a little masked because you have 10 names holding whole thing up. there was serious carnage this year. neil: dan, that is argument for the rally to ensue because there has been serious carnage. underneath the surface a lot of these stocks have not only

corrected, they have crashed and they're due for turn around. this is the season it usually happens. do you agree? >> yeah, it could be the season. historically it happened, but right now we have a lot of, like charles has said, there are about 10 stocks making this happen. a lot of underlying stocks like you mentioned are below their 200-day moving averages and they're in downtrends but we have seen going on this military action in europe is causing dollar to get stronger against the euro currency and a lot of the money is coming to the united states. they're buying blue chip stocks that may high dividends and not putting them in the bank because interest rates are zero. as long as federal reserve keep as floor under the market that currently looks like a safe bet. but i do warn at this fed meeting coming in december, that things could change dramatically for the markets. neil: what do you think, john? are you bullish, cautious what. >> slightly bullish. i agree with charles.

i think a lot of bad news has gone out of the way. people assume the fed will raise rates now. that is kind of out of the way. retail sector warned. more of amazon effect like macy's and nordstrom. i think it has to do more with amazon than slow retail sales. they already warned. a lot of bad news is out of the way. unless you see a terror tactic, god forbid in the united states, i think retail sales will be pretty good in the united states. i think we'll see a christmas rally. neil: i'm thinking of that revised gdp report, showing barely 2% growth. that can't be a good sign for future. >> can't be good sign for future. wages were up 2.6%. savings up 5.6%. we have an american public making more money. cheap gas but they won't put to it work. it is sign of no confidence in leadership but somehow -- neil: when you see savings eclipsing spending that presages what. >> that the money is there, somehow if there is a spark. i don't know if the spark can happen while president obama is in office though.

neil: what do you mean that will not change? >> i'm saying it is not going to change. velocity of money, people are keeping money in savings. this is what happened during the japanese cycle. they're not spending. they don't have the confidence in the economy or our government right now. so the money is being socked away. that is a big thing i think federal reserve is very concerned about why they're hesitant to raise rates. >> why there is no so-called inflation in those kind of things. i'm with you on that, dan. to your point, you make nothing keeping in a bank. >> i don't disagree with you. there is a lot of opportunity. look commodities have been deflating. so people are not putting their money there. neil: gotcha. >> a lot of stocks actually high-flyers have very low or have been declining. neil: we're having breaking news. want to update you on the chicago protest, rally. it is growing and it is peaceful. but they expect it will get a little fiery as one speaker after another calls to the mic they say huging dignity on part of cops to young black men.

neil: just in time for black friday. we're hearing protesters plan to march on malls in chicago. they don't have enough to worry about chicago, they're targeting malls. what? trish: i new you didn't like shopping. neil cavuto, breaking right now. president of france is on his way to russia, to ask for vladmir putin's help in war on isis, after our president volunteered nothing. welcome, everyone, to the intelligence report. francois hollande heading to russia after his meeting with president obama, no bigger plan to tackle isis. instead obama turned the meeting into a political attack on anyone who doesn't report syrian refugees, un-american if you do so. >> on statue of liberty, a gift from the people of france, there