sensitive to what the left wants you to believe. stuart: that is monica crowley getting all fired up earlier on this program. i time is up. neil cavuto, it is yours. neil: is crowley not a fan of president obama? >> that is not debatable. >> we are going off a little bit on what stuart is talking about. mainstream media and what they were saying about the muslim proposal. i told you it is not the end of the world. he would do well. when did you remember this? >> he slid off in the polls. he may go down in the mainstream media polls. i think with this he will go up. guess what happened. he went up. i seriously doubt it.

he is surging. after the crucial state of south carolina. that is just among some of the polls. he is a surging in all of them that are coming out. blake with all the latest. >> i was watching you, by the way. donald trump has been grabbing the headlines from these controversial headlines. there really is a second story lines that have been going on the past few days. paying attention to the poll numbers. outstanding poll numbers both in the states and nationally as well. the latest fox news poll. looking at south carolina. also the first primary in the south. trump has 35% supported voters there. that is 20 points ahead of the next group. you can beat carson and cruise and rubio.

the search appears to be, at least in part, linked to his stance on muslims entering the u.s. trump released that on monday afternoon. monday and tuesday. and now poll, a 38%. those that were asked on saturday and sunday at dirty percent. the fox news poll pretty much runs parallel to a national story released today. again, back 35%. the fox news poll after trump's comment. yesterday we felt they would make the controversy. i would also submit to you really quickly. nationally. there have been polls nationally and in the states. all across the floor.

>> voted in his favor. thank you very, very much. following this very, very closely. i am not again surprised by this. they predate -- they predicted it would go up. the main stage in a general election. he would suffer from those comments. >> i want to know whether that video was doctored. neil: that is not necessary. >> i just wonder. >> i am very upset at you because you hurt my feelings. >> i am not trying to hurt them. >> you have never let go. that is mine. that is mine. what do you think?

>> up or down. [laughter] i am just wondering. i will take your word for it. >> looking at this thing, unsure of month the republicans and conservatives. these blue-collar types. preaching to the choir and loving it. he would tumble. that is what they are claiming. what do you think? >> i do not think he would do particularly well in a general election. i do not think that this is the reason why. what we're learning about the killers in san bernardino, that part of this is probably popular. that could help donald trump. i think you have to separate that particular issue from the overall question of whether donald trump could win aid general election.

>> characters and philosophies. looking at the way ronald reagan is treated. i can remember a lot of the carter folks after bush senior. going all the way to a nomination. far more difficult to beat in this clown ronald reagan. who they thought the month before. ronald reagan saying trees cause more pollution than cars. we all remember that. do you think that donald trump would do the same? >> well, if you learn some lessons from ronald reagan. you know, one of the wonderful things about reagan, his sense of humor was so self -- he even joked about the comments. he joked about a lot of the things that he said did people got a sense of him. they appreciated it. i want you to be honest.

have you ever heard donald trump -- >> he did the bucket challenge. very funny. you should do that. >> that is not funny to me. not funny at all, neil. >> my point is, you do raise a good point. they tend to have a good sense of humor. you can argue barack obama has a dry sense of humor. do you think that there is a candidate out there, if it's not donald trump, that can pass this trump surge, whatever you want to call it, who could fill that void? >> well, right now he has to worry. trump has to worry about ted cruz. ted cruz could easily win iowa. if he does it win when i well, that changes the calculus almost

instantly for south carolina. i don't know what it does for new hampshire higher. i can see crews doing well there and then you go down to the fec primary on march 1 which has all those details, including he has a good shot there. >> some enormous will go room. so many issues. >> that is the difference. >> have a merry christmas. charlie gasparino. charlie was on this idea very early. something to trump that goes way beyond mainstream media picked. >> what i love about donald is the political correctness. he does a good job.

this comment is very interesting. they will tell you, why not. >> that is what resonated. tom brokaw and all of those. sending just the wrong message. this is not the america we want to be. >> it is very calibrated. i will say this. >> there are three candidates that are emerging right now. larry would tell you. crews, donald and rubio. rubio got another endorser last night. he is becoming the establishment . stuart: scott walker. >> taking him down. now you will have a battle. ben carson will be by the

wayside. a paddle between cruzan trump. neil: all you guys don't have a chance. it out-of-the-way. find an alternative. >> if the party does not want the established. donald and ben carson together. neil: their establishment choices have done so well. >> i make one thing clear. the ceo of a major wall street investment bank. that is very significant to me. not just a potential mcdonald. but it potential crews. >> endorsing hillary clinton. you would see the banks grow tons of money at hillary clinton. >> wall street connections. his wife is a broker.

the republican party. the libertarian scaring the hell out of the establishment. you will see a lot of those establishment types. >> asking me a question. >> i actually have sources. i have people that talk to me. the guy that makes the pumpkin spice latte. neil: he loves me. the sausage vendor. >> who is he? neil: he is right over there. say you know me. [laughter] >> real italian sausage. neil: i do not know. i will look. on january 14, that is where we will be for the second fox

business presidential debate. we had so much fun the last time in milwaukee. you could not find a friendlier more receptive crowd. i will be doing standup as well. [laughter] neil: you get it? next month. i think it is five weeks from today. five weeks from today. be there or be square. >> why can't they do these debates in vegas. i want to hang out in vegas. neil: why don't we just tell gasparino that it is in vegas. >> or miami. beautiful views. on the beach. neil: trials in demo right there. much more right after this. stick around.

neil: are right. the mover and shaker. the president ceo of the religious group putting his support behind ted cruz. his pick for president in 2016. this is a very influential fellow. iowa, his early pick of rick santorum helped rick when that state years ago. mike huckabee prior to that. he is detailing exactly why he went for crews. gaining steam in iowa as we speak. he will grant his first television interview to was on fox news channel at 4:00 p.m. today. the power broker among the religious rights. not only in iowa, but throughout the parts. in the meantime, i had at that, we are hearing word now that a top financial officer within isis was taken out by a

coalition. this happened in recent weeks. do not know how he was killed, but he is dead. he is dead. we have a reserve naval intelligence officer. what do you make, first of all, of that news? >> isis is a terrorist enterprise, obviously. they rely on money to make it happen. neil: they have a lot of it. >> arn territory. it is a big neil. threat finance is a big thing to stop terrorists. neil: take him out. he gets the funds. maybe provides the means by which that black article oil is distributing. he is out. >> of course. this is what we want. in afghanistan, al qaeda, keeping them on the run, they

are thinking about where my going to sleep tonight. we want these guys to be on the run. >> desperate parts of this. much like they did in paris and california. since we're going after their money, all the attacks have come relatively cheap. >> relatively cheap. they still need money. you cannot just roll over and let them have it. >> what do you do with this money? >> cash is king. it is not necessarily hard to come by, but it is hard for them to move. to get it to europe to fund these things. >> what you think about the argument that the president used against playing into isis?

a lot of troops on the ground responding the way we did originally. we do not want to do that. that is exactly what they want. >> i think that isis could be defeated today if we wanted it to. once isis goes, they hold a significant amount in syria and iraq. if they go, there is a vacuum. where does it go? >> some other crazy group taking over. >> absolutely. i am not even sure what that actually consists of. i think i think we can eliminate them. what comes next? neil: thank you very, very much. we are wondering if the terror group, if it was not isis, would it be somebody else? the couple behind last week's attacks in california.

ashley webster now with the latest with what is going on. >> so hard to unravel this mystery. getting through all of the layers. focusing on the neighbor. marquez. twenty-four years old. a security guard that live next door to syed rizwan farook for many, many years. he is the one that bought the rifle's back in 2011-2012. two of those rifles were used in the attacks in san bernardino. we understand he is being very cooperative with the fbi. sharing everything that he knows. the question is, will he be charged? it is likely that criminal charges will be coming. obviously, taking it while to get the full picture here. his role in this horrible, horrible shooting. he did. in his face book right after the shootings in san bernardino, i

am very sorry, guys, it red. he went on saying it was a pleasure. obviously, it is a complicated one. another. twist to this. married to a russian woman whose sister was married to syed rizwan farook's brother, if you can keep up with that one. never did live with marquez. she lived with another man. that whole thing was a scam. it just gives you an idea of how difficult it is to peel away the layers to figure out who knew what and why and what kind of role they played in all of this. we are waiting for charges against marquez. neil: think of all the phone calls back and forth. the wife was speaking our vic. the sun getting completely radicalized on the internet. talking to someone. who. they do not know. you have heard by now that mark

zuckerberg made an offer in support of muslims and muslim users. muslim everybody. a safe haven for you to communicate online in a very friendly environment. all right. what about the safety of 1 billion users. some of them, a lot of film are very afraid of a lot of those muslims. take a look at donald trump's poll numbers. someone is agitated. ♪

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neil: you have probably heard by now that mark zuckerberg over at facebook has said this pile on muslim and donald trump banning them into the country is a little bit too much. he took to facebook that muslims specifically have a home here. you are welcome here. dagen mcdowell on that.

we can look at some of the statement. standing up against the tax on all community. you are always welcome here. we will fight to welcome the rights. he said we have to be careful. easy to succumb to cynicism. that is a great thought. what he is missing our thoughts to the dead in san bernardino. thoughts for their families. particularly given the fact. i will point at him. these murderous pieces of garbage were posting on his very creation. right before committing these atrocities. something that he has not addressed as a founder and ceo. what about the murders in san

bernardino? something that we see over and over and over again. people worried about anti-muslim sentiment. not worried about radical islamic terrorism and the people who are killed by it. neil: a lot of responses. also saying you are looking at the muslim users. that is great. what about us. many of them feel potable and violated. a middle east media research institute. that was part of it. this frustration that, yes, by all means, reach out to everybody. only reaching out to muslims. >> social media is a massive social security issue. of the social media companies, facebook has done a much better job than the other companies. neil: i know when someone says something -- they do not go to

the next level. do you think you sent the wrong message? maybe the right meaning, but with the wrong message. >> we do not know exactly how they go about it. they are doing a better job. extending efforts in that regard. it is hard to pick someone else a moment after they pop on and say something. >> i respectfully disagree. saying you are better than others. it is not as if they tripped over themselves a whole bunch. being pro- act is. they are not trying to balance it. the privacy issue. the security issues. i do not know. dagen: they want to be a

platform for free speech. that, of course, we admire that. they in fact are not. we see other types of speech being policed. getting away with murder and turning people into that. they were caught on an open mic on the sidelines of the un luncheon. speaking to him saying we need to do some work on anti-immigrant post about the refugee crisis. are you working on this? mark zuckerberg applied in the affirmative. the implication was we are trying to censor that on the website. they need to do a better job of censoring the hate that you get from these groups. >> the attorney general's

office. any of the anti-muslim bias. all good. not as much on just protecting us. >> right. i think what these companies have failed to do, they have great policies. they have not done as much to actually enforce those terms. that leads to a backlash. perhaps the government needs to step in. >> where do you draw the line? everyone stumbles on outline. >> it is a tough line. we think that they have drawn a pretty good line themselves. they have banned calls for violence in general. >> i can tell you, about one year and a half ago, when the beheadings by ices were really increasing in number, you could go on twitter and bear it easily find videos and photos of the beheadings. they were everywhere.

only after twitter got embarrassed and called out by the media that they started doing something about it. i think that this is a terrific sentiment. what you heard from mohammed ali, there is always so why now. we need to hear from these leaders. they are responding to trump. that is what is so objectionable. neil: just a few minutes ago. confirmation that an ices bigwig taken out. i did not even know. well, he is dead. ♪

neil: all right. airline stocks. the company now is saying it thinks that u.s. travel advisory, remember after the terrorist attacks, it may have affected bookings last month. expecting other airlines to the stay the same. the point being, anyone wanting to get on a plane in that environment. expect more. meanwhile, fox business or any

other. not a fan. natural gas, oil, you name it. not in the future. we know now, however, it is not necessarily the path to the future. those are two back-to-back not surprising alerts. seeing this since we've been keeping track of these numbers. a percentage of the population are now a minority. jonathan homemade on that. what they make of it. what do you make of it, jonathan? >> the middle class is the country's energy. its lifeblood did independent

spirit. what created the middle class in america was capitalism. creating the jobs, the wealth. the consumerism that is booming. essentially creating american capitalism. seeing the economy become less free over the last two decades and 10 years in particular. that is what is continuing to this day. neil: bottom line, the middle class has grown in the aggregate. it is now a smaller part of the makeup. you know this better than anyone. that has shot the middle class down the ladder. how bad is this, do you think? >> this is a trend that has been growing since the 70s. the economic health of our

economy. the middle class can use a shrink. the poor get poorer. every politician loves to talk about it. no one has brought a solution to it yet. the great recession. a lot of families in the middle class took a big hit. their mortgage was upside down on them. that really hurts their income values. those guys begin to get their assets and wealth back. neil: go ahead. >> the solutions are always the cause of the problem. always more reduced aviation. the cost of oil whether it is the federal reserve. the very wealthy. something as benign as the minimum wage which keeps young people from having the strength to heal that wealth. the more we do to intervene,

only economic freedom that they can once maintain. >> there are two big indicators that we need to be looking at here. the early '80s of the financial markets. we sold massive decline in the u.s. the only groups that really weathered the storm were older. older americans. sixty-five plus that had safety nets like social security and medicare. two things that help them from having catastrophic failures. >> they got hit the hardest. there is something to be said and it is pointed out in the study. neil: it has gotten worse. are you saying without the government it would be even worse? >> yes. harder to find jobs. >> absolutely.

>> it did fall further. the strongest period of economic growth for everyone in this country, the so-called middle class was before any of these so-called made the net -- safety nets were enacted. what we know is being the middle class. i wish the financial markets, i wish that they would be deregulated. that is why this continues to grow. >> both of your points brilliantly. thank you very, very much. reading a little bit lower from the epa. believe me, that is how she is playing this. i want to play this quote. it just floors me here. we know in the u.s. that we are transitioning away from call.

one of the cheapest fuels, one of the most efficient fuels that we have. we have clean and natural gas. we have opportunity for low carbon sources. lowering energy demand. this rips a new one. it is what is providing the jews for the utilities that provides the means because when you plug them in, those cars that everyone seemed to like, they are all powered by utilities. it is just weird. i think that that is epa's way of saying that. did you get that? [laughter] more after this. ♪

neil: look at this. smith & wesson. the shares are at an all-time high now. almost 70 years ago. high inning the sense of urgency. a lot of people want to our -- arm each other. banning guns to anyone on the no-fly list. very good to have you. >> it is great to be with you. neil: concerned about this because the no-fly list is arbitrary. the stories. others who may have had to for work snafus.

you are going down the wrong path. what do you say? >> there is no question that there are performs that need to be made. suspected terrorists not being able to buy guns. first offered in 2011. actually trying to push this legislation. i was cosponsoring this legislation. i am a cosponsor of it today. we have to take a step back and say why are we here? we are in the midst of a war on terrorism. the war on terror, again, they are not on the run. they have said that they want to come to the united states. we also see what is happening in iran. the state sponsor of terror in the world. we need to step up and address it. this is one step forward that we can be doing.

they are not able to purchase weapons. >> you know better than i am up and down. the time, the year, the moment. a lot of your colleagues have said, that is a slippery slope. look at that list and use it as a metric to prevent you to buy guns. what is next? >> i am a supporter of the second amendment. i do think we need to have performs. the due process is very important. we need to make sure that that is part of the legislation. neil: i agree with you. due process, forbidden to fly. you could separately fight being on the list. maybe get cleared off the list and buy a gun.

>> absolutely. we are looking for common sense solutions. able to, again, make sure that they are not able to purchase weapons. i think that it is somewhat hypocritical. the building has been around since 2007. my opponent that was here before did not even cosponsor this bill. something that the other side was trying to use. >> all sides have been playing paletta goal football. >> i appreciated. >> neil, thank you so much. neil: getting more news. 141 boston college students have reported to have nora virus symptoms. 141. not e. coli. you feel pretty sick.

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neil: all right. enough about me. what did i tell them to do? you have to make purpose all day. you do. and they did. a lot of you are doubting that i said this. i want to roll the tape. >> mcdonald's, you should have practiced the whole day. [laughter] that is up to you to decide whether i really said that. again, hey, make donald's. all right. in the meantime, one company is going one way. on the today show.

you decide whether this worked. take a look. >> a very unfortunate incident. i am deeply sorry that this happened. the procedures are so above industry norms. we are going to be the safest place to be. neil: it seems to be. i should point out that we just got news. for the time being, that number, the boston college number of students that were reported the nora virus symptoms, jumped to 141. 141. i have dagen here. i have connell here. dagen. >> needed to get out in front of this and send a message to the public. they had one, i mentioned this yesterday, in southern

california earlier this year. when you have that many people in one restaurant getting sick, it begs the question. >> the stomach bug. >> you should get over it. >> do you want to tell people why you said that? >> what happens. it is better. i am wondering if you are the ceo. there are grades of sickness here. they arguably are not too reassuring. >> i thought that it was really interesting the way that you handled it. his argument, behavioral economics things. just had this huge recall. the safest place.

not just playing the odds. >> talking about crowds. they are just telling. dagen: to connell's point, they have not identified the sources of equal light. neil: it could be -- dagen: that is for norovirus. neil: i want to move onto diarrhea. connell: what is wrong with you? neil: you get very sick, in both cases. i would think it would be a more immediate concern for this reason. neil: it is one restaurant.

if you do not go to that restaurant, you are okay. that is a bigger worry, i think. >> this could have been anywhere. this restaurant was cited for some health inspection problems. >> the prisoners. the distance. it is a risk that you take. it has not happened -- lou: the bigger question is, will the business recover from it? the answer is yes. the ignition switch problem. people were dying from that. toyota, the first nine months of the year. neil: reports that 141 students. all of these norovirus symptoms. how soon do they get over that?

>> a couple of days. >> yes. i bet a bunch of them do at some point. connell: to the guys point, to the ceo's point. dagen:'s a friend of mine e-mailed me and set said i.e. there every day and my building. today i did not. i went across the street to the deli. i highly dow that it is any cleaner at the deli. dagen: hashbrowns forever. neil: okay. i did say that. a remake of the tape. stick around. more after this. ♪ wow! you can't breathed. through your nose.

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neil: all right. want to take you to chicago right now, everybody. glad to have you back here. they are planning more protests today in chicago to kick off protesting what is a city

seeming to fall out of bed. jeff flock, i guess it started with the release of this video of gunning down of a 17-year-old african male. that was some four 10:00 months ago. to add insult to injury all the economic troubles, city all but bankrupt. you explain? reporter: yeah, the mayor certainly under a lot of pressure. mainly as a result of the whole issue around the police. the mayor saying yesterday that he is apologizing. saying he will do better. protesters not liking that, it got kind of crazy again. it wasn't as crazy as black friday but it's building. now to get rahm emanuel to resign as mayor, i've known rahm emanuel since the clinton days. he is not the guy who will resign anytime soon. there is bill introduced yesterday in the state yesterday that would provide a mechanism to recall him.

there is no such mechanism right now. we'll see where that goes. chicago is in a state of flux. neil: if you could stay there, buddy, pushes to get rahm emanuel to resign even after he apologized for the whole shooting incident. it happened under his watch. but it didn't do much good. bring in jessica tarloff. deroy murdoch, charlie gasparino. jump ball for anyone. i will attempt to start with you, jessica. this idea when it gets so bad that they're telling the mayor to quit, doesn't matter -- >> 51% of people. neil: they're furious, right? >> they are furious, yeah. over 50% now want him to resign. 64% saying they don't believe him, that he didn't see the video. neil: this is bigger than the video. do you think it is -- >> i think overall crime level. it's the sense that he probably saw this video. basically covered it up because he was facing re-election. if come out during re-election

and would have lost black vote and lost city hall. i think this is huge part of it. i don't think it is just this, but sense of corruption which is synonymous with chicago. >> i say you have to put in context what was chicago before this occurred right now? it was one of the murder capitals of the united states. it was a city that lost its investment grade bond rating. it is now rated junk by moody's investor service. city is heavily indebted. pensions are underfunded. economy is really bad. there is no real mechanism. they will have a create a mechanism to remove him. governors you can recall. i don't know if you can recall a mayor without the specific mechanism. when you have both the left and right critiquing you, i don't know if there is anybody right in chicago. you have the far left -- >> at least five. >> far left and moderates. you got a problem. because his base was moderate liberals. they're going after him.

reminds me the cnbc debate in this sense. everybody thought they sucked. really came out of it. neil: like how you related it. >> right-wing hated it. liberals hated it. neil: when you talk to people the growing frustration we're a city without money, without police who are backing us up and throwing their hands up in the air and saying to hell with it? >> well, you know, talk about the right and the left. you know if you guys all lived in chicago you would have all voted for rahm emanuel for mayor last time because he is about as right as it gets in chicago. he is a guy who has investment community roots and he was looked upon as guy who could, if anybody could straighten this out in chicago he could. well the problem is, there is a lot of entrenched problems here even a person progressive thinker like emanuel is not making any inroads. >> i am old enough to remember the new york city fiscal crisis. i remember just how bad the city

was in the '70s. i remember how long it took rudy giuliani to become mayor to straighten a lot that up, a lot of that out. what was different from new york city, bill lucky, "national review," a civic leader and ran for mayor. we had a new york state and city conservative party. we had manhattan institute. "new york post" in beginning of 1980s. post used to be very left-wing. mr. murdoch bought it and became more centrist and right-wing. guess what we had debate. there is no debate in chicago. you have left and leftist. bill ayres, rahm emanuel. that is city that you have. neil: they do have deep dish pizza. what i want to know, know deroy, how bad does this get? not as bad as it is like puerto rico. what happens. >> this bond situation is bad. this gentleman here wrote a good piece.

neil: don't egg him on. >> unemployment rate is not all that bad 5.1%. the economy could be better but not total disaster. neil: did he cut enough? wasn't that rap against him he was more inclined to raise taxes instead of -- >> taxes cut in indiana and wisconsin. a lot of businesses saying why are we here sticking around. when you have crime overlaid. not seeing more businesses moving in but more moving out. i think there is great opening pour republicans on this issue. this is all democrat city. how are black people served by democrat government in thick choe. ferguson, run by democrats. baltimore, run by democrats. you have police misconduct under democrat rule. neil: jessica, are you proud of yourself. >> yeah. because i destroyed chicago single-handedly. but to your point, i do see that there is a republican opening to make that argument. the problem is though, when the right doesn't seem to want to

acknowledge the "black lives matter" movement at all, i mean i think it's wrong obviously people chanted police officers, when they go after them. we need to respect law enforcement why the -- let me finish for one second. neil: let her finish. >> but at the same time, if you're not speaking directly to the black community about how they're feeling, what their needs are, and doesn't matter, necessarily what the reality versus sis. 88% of blacks -- no i understand. but the chances of chicago voting republican is basically zero. >> issue of criminal justice reform seeing some republicans saying what is the sense of locking up people for marijuana violations throwing them in jail for five years. koch brothers of all people held a conference. >> bill buckley started that debate years ago. it is a worthy debate but the problem is, with "black lives matter" and a lot of these other groups, they're radicals. you have to embrace every radical group -- >> that doesn't mean happened to laquan mcdonald, what happened

to freddie gray and eric garner they don't have something to say. when you disregard it, not only infuriates community, guaranties the republicans have no opening. that is central issue. >> talk about black on on black crime. >> specially in chicago. >> you have cases come out of control but we hear almost nothing about thousands and thousands of other black people are killing other black people. >> strict gun control in chicago and los angeles. >> we had a mayor, a mayor, that adopts everything that you said, and guess what? two police officers were assassinated. we had a mayor. >> awful. >> we had a mayor that accepted every liberal -- >> i'm not de blasio. >> but this is guy that is open to "black lives matter." very much a guy that is very anti-police. he is very -- >> also a man that shouldn't won election. >> but i'm telling you he embraced everything -- neil: i don't think it's a right or left thing. i want to end with jeff on thing.

i think it is frustration. i could be naive, jeff, if the economy turns around there, if the finances turn around there, a lot of this, not all of this, there will be always racial rage beneath the surface but i think a lot of that calms down. i think a lot of this is driven by financial desperation too? reporter: a lot is not like detroit. a lot easier to turn a place like this around than detroit around. not as easy as charlie pointed out to turn new york around. there are steep fiscal problems that overlaid with the police issue made it very tough time in chicago. neil: wish we had more time. argued your points very eloquently. gaspo debatable you about pretty close. >> it sucks as far as you are concerned. neil: i do want to bring to light, you heard of this talk ted cruz seems to be on fire, indicates right now that he got endorsement of bob van der

plats. you might say who is bob van der platts? he is king maker in iowa. gave early support to rick santorum. wins iowa cautions, did same for mike huckabee. mike huckabee won iowa caucuses. neither of these gentlemen went on to be republican nominee, but that does not say anything about the influential support he has. he will do first on air interview, talking about ted cruz, and how he thinks cruz might be able to beat at that rap that you're won and done after iowa victory. i have a feeling he thinks differently. 4:00 p.m., right on fox news channel. just reminder as well, january 14th, we're at it again. fox business hosting another presidential debate. charleston, south carolina, the venue this time. we hope you watch us. a chance to not only get into

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neil: all right. we are getting a report coming in i think from reuters, the shooter's wife, tashfeen malik was trying unsuck fest lull i to contact multiple, multiple islamic groups before last week's california attacks. courting to multiple reports she tried to contact these sources. we don't know whether the aid requests were about or for aid. it would provide more fodder for these two suspects they could not have acted alone or in verbal consult without other

players. we have someone to talk about latest news developments and with the refugees. danny, what do you think of that? always suspicion people say there is no way they pull it off alone without being in contact with somebody. what do you think? >> i have not even second-guessed it at all from the beginning. i'm sure they had a lot of support and probably some backing somewhere along the way before they ever got to the point they did what they did. there was no doubt this was not just two people that decided to do this. they had support probably a while back. neil: switching gears, if you indulge me, my friend, canada taking in about 300 syrian refugees. part of what ultimately could go up to thousands. canada's prime minister, justin trudeau said it is humanitarian and right thing to do. what do you think? >> well, you know, we talk about humanitarian things, the right thing to do. yeah, but is it the right thing to do for the united states of america and people that live

here that have lived in this country for a long time. i don't really think it is right thing to do. there is right way to do it. there is wrong way to do it. i don't know which way it will be done. if they start with 300 and end up 3,000 coming from the north. we have them coming from the southern border. you know that. i know everybody does. now we get them from the other direction. how will we control that? what is the vetting pros he is we make sure are people not trying to get inside just like this couple did? neil: colonel, i don't know what their vetting process is. i'm told canada's finance minister and prime minister himself it is stringent like any other couldn'ttry on earth coming from ottawa officials. to your point that is pretty porous border. we don't police it nearly as aggressive. nor have we felt the need to police it as aggressive as our border to the south.

that might change. what do you think? >> it might change. you're right on the money with that idea. see what i'm concerned about, is if we say, okay, they're coming from the canadian border. the canadian government says they have vetted then. does that mean we'll accept that and not do any kind of vetting process ourself? if we do we're making a big mistake because i think that will lead to more catastrophic things in our country just like we saw in san bernardino. neil: danny, i was thinking of you, got another report, multiple reports on isis, their chief money guy, equivalent of cfo was killed in a coalition attack. we're soap rattily hurting that isis is not hurting for cash. they have more than 500 million from black market oil sales. that is even with the collapse of oil prices. that might behind what they did. the attacks cost them into

thousands. not very expensive attacks. deadly but not very expensive. what do you make of that? the. >> definitely. money is only a small part of the big picture for me. they have lots of money. we've known that for a long time. we heard about the bank account the guy had, money went in to support action they ended up taking. what bothers me about it, neil, we still have not saying the things that you and i have talked about many times before, probably a year or so ago. when are we going to decide that the only way we'll defeat these people is to go there, look them in the eyeballs and take care of business? i am so tired of this, you know -- neil: you and i also talked about this. the president doesn't want to do that. even those who concur with your fear we're not doing enough, say we might be to the president's point, inciting this caliphate and everything else. what they want is grand attack with the west.

that is playing into what they want to do. what do you say? >> i don't agree that's playing into anybody's hands. it's simple. they have become stronger and larger, so much compared to what it was whenner called the jv team. they're the big varsity now. we let it happen. i still believe, even though i hate the fact that have to put boots on the ground. i believe that is the first thing we have to do to stop or slow down what is going on right now. neil: but how many boots on the ground are we talking about? >> that's the thing. we recently said some special operation forces of 250, 300, whatever, went over there. and that's not enough. i think we have to get the 82nd airborne division involved. get 101st and get special forces involved. i know nobody wants war, i don't either, but i don't want war on

united states of america's ground either. we have option somewhere to make the decision here. neil: danny, always good seeing you. hope you have a merry christmas. you're a modest guy. thank you for your service and bravery. anyone familiar with "black hawk down" would know a thing or two about that. and your colleagues living and unfortunately dead. thank you very much. >> thank you, neil. merry christmas to you too. neil: we'll have more after this. but what if you could see more of what you wanted to know? with fidelity's new active trader pro investing platform,

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neil: ted cruz is having very good day. he got endorsement of bob vander platts. a very influential republican figure certainly in the evangelical right. he backed rick santorum in iowa four years ago. rick santorum went on to win iowa. did same thing with mike huckabee four years to that. went on to win iowa. blessings to one ted cruz. add it up could be big momentum for cruz, in some polls leads already prior to this

endorsement and move ahead to the march 1st, sec primaries big southern state primaries including his own home state of texas he could build up a big arsenal of delegate votes if that were to be the case. we have caitlyn burns, realpolitiks national reporter. my view, caitlyn, be very cautious of this we'll have a brokered convention. no one will get to the cleveland the site of the convention to be nominee, at least when they get there. >> in this campaign i'm not ruling anything out. it defied all of our expectations. neil: that's true. >> from reporter perspective that would be a great story. there is a chance for it. but the big wildcard here how trump does and how long he stays n you can imagine a scenario which he does win, if he wins iowa or new hampshire although it is becoming more and more likely ted cruz is going to or is primed to win iowa, then it

becomes a question of where do these other candidates win? neil: that is what happens. one wins iowa, right? barack obama won iowa. lost new hampshire. bottle was joined. these other candidates, huckabee, santorum, they can go anywhere from that. it was not quite magic bullet it was for jimmy carter in '76, was it? >> yeah. there are some candidates. the field is starting to narrow. we're seeing trump, cruz, rubio and rise. neil: scott walker saying again, get out, if you don't have a chance get out and save it for established guy to counter, presumably donald trump. >> that is the other layer of this, right? that there is no, establishment side at least there is not really a, no one's really coalescing around a candidate yet. neil: that is where someone like cruz thinks he could make a difference. he has boots on the ground in those southern states. >> right. neil: he could on a day we have

593 delegates up for grabs. those are apportioned. getting to my point those are not all winner-take-all. florida is winner take all. what do you mean he could get a good portion ever delegates. so many still in the race, even a poor performing candidate gets something. >> right. neil: then we get to cleveland and this hodgepodge. >> without a decision made exactly. the interesting thing cruz has been planning for this kind of scenario. neil: he has. >> he has been quietly building his campaign. hopes to inherit trump supporters if trump ever fades. neil: i don't think trump will fade. >> not showing any signs of it yet. neil: yeah. >> meantime though, cruz has been building a really, you know, durable campaign in not only early states but especially that sec primary where, there are a lot of delegates at stake there. neil: you think republicans rueing the day they decided not to make so many apportioned? not like the old days when i was a kid. >> right.

neil: you win a state ion won by one vote you get all the delegates. that is the not case. >> it is complicated. the republican party tried for a while since the past election to make this process better and to get to a nominee, more quickly. neil: now just the opposite. >> now exactly. it is just the opposite. so while i do think a brokered convention is still a possibility, i mean the end of this race is really, you know in the long view here. i mean it is hard to see exactly how this ends and who ends up with what. i will say from the polling, we are seeing a kind of a narrowing down of the field a little bit but we still, there still haven't been any votes cast yet. that is the important thing to consider. neil: but that is not going to stop us talking non-stop about it. >> no. neil: thank you, caitlyn. good seeing you again. >> good seeing you. neil: all this fuss over donald trump and the fact he says maybe we ban muslims coming into this country until we sort this out, mainstream media would say stupid thing to say.

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italians are among those profiled. robert, good to see you. >> good to see you neil. neil: you support donald trump. >> i think he would be terrific president. neil: does it bother you the mainstream media think they're not. >> they're in the tank for establishment. the fourth estate. neil: you don't think he is a racist. >> i don't think he is racist. am i a racist? i'm an italian-american who loves this country whose immigrant grandparent came from sicily, fought in world war i and world war ii. were racially profiled and profiled but -- neil: when were you profiled. >> all italians were profiled all throughout, especially '50s, '60s, '70s. if you were italian you were part of the mafia. they had little italy rigged. sewing clubs rigged. surveillance videos. that is well-known. joe piston, played him in tv show. there was a little anti-defamation. italians knew, they wanted that the italian community, wanted

help because they understood the underworld or that element was giving them something else. so -- neil: never had a prominent politician or potential party standard-bearer say, we want to ban italians from coming into this country until we sort out this mob thing. >> well, because they weren't blowing up people. they weren't killing people like that. neil: they were killing each other. >> killing each other. there was crime empire going on but it was different thing. also when they say the religion of muslim, nobody wants to talk about saeed katab. father philosopher of al qaeda. he says islam is political movement. it is a political movement. i want people to hear that. islam is political movement. it is not just a religious movement. some of it, radicalization of it. so when you say we're banning a religion, that is not true. i think that unless there is dell lynn eages, and unless islamic community coming out and more are asking for that and we wouldn't have this conversation

donald trump was not out there continually, saw the refugees, i call them draft dodgers, young guys you saw en masse leaving their country. some should have been staying there and fighting for their country. what is going on. he says he is brining that to the attention and media wants to go this way and that way. neil: a lot of them are getting killed right? >> a lot of people getting killed. that's your country. we went to europe to free people -- neil: do you think, i always use dick cheney ace good measure of conservative thought. he is pretty conservative guy. >> yes, he is. neil: he didn't like lumping all muslims. banning goes against what we're about, what our constitution is b what do you think? >> you know, again, we love the muslims. it is about the muslims. it is about the radical element and lack of media and administration and our government, both parties, since 2001, not defining the issue. look what happened to the woman in san diego. she was afraid she was going to

be called racially profiling because she didn't see what was happening n 2001 i met -- neil: the woman who was witnessing what these guys were doing in the garage. >> right. >> see people, i have a big law enforcement background. i'm at homeland security policy institute, george washington university, i've been to jordan i don't want to get into all of that in 2001 i met with tom ridge, we need civilian patrol 93, right after flight 93. civilian patrol 93. people in america need ad conduit between law enforcement and the general public because they were going to be afraid they were going to be called racially profiled and all this the community, like that woman could go to civilian patrol person in the area. i saw something. don't want to make a big thing of it, they would then report it because they would have intelligence, civilian patrol people and report people to law enforcement. neil: i thought argument is silly. anonymity would be protected.

cops would be forced to check it out. they would find a treasure trove. >> she was afraid, whatever it might be because people are afraid. neil: people taking it the next level. read you get in europe, robert, you travel the world, all of sudden we put up the walls statute of liberty is joke, we don't want your poor, tired, hungry. >> this is what happens, this is funny thing on "fox & friends" show in 2014 i was in london. police told me don't go into that area. it is under sharia jurisdiction. chaz palmenttieri, the actor had the same experience. he said i could say that. because i wanted to qualify that it wasn't just myself. they couldn't go into certain areas because it was under sharia jurisdiction. now, whether london wants to admit that, i believe some police officers did come out and say that, but what's going on? what is really going on? if the american people, if we as a station don't understand going on we help muslim moderates to have strength. they can come to all of is. neil: they're mad.

a lost muslim moderates are mad because they think he is a racist. what do you tell them. >> who is racist? neil: donald trump. >> are they all mad? some of them are mad. i have then have to say, that is a very difficult question because how do you tell people he is not a racist. neil: single the out a group for its religion coming into the united states. >> it's a political movement. it is not him. it is because of ins and ineptitude of the vetting process is broken. i -- neil: i asked the number of officials here, both president, former administration firms on security issues say this will hurt our relations. that is what donald trump says, with moderate muslim nations that might help us. you say that is -- >> that is a lot of baloney. we had obama policy of appeasement. we had, saying let's be nice. they tried that. the left has tried appeasement. it has gotten bores. it doesn't work. it has never worked. they don't want to learn from history. neil: what kind of president do you think donald trump would be

if he got that far? to your point, mainstream media, elite might say one thing. he is up eight points in the polls. obviously there is a dichotomy? >> i think donald trump, i think back to an america, look it, we've grown, this country has grown beautifully, racial, problems, but fall this is way, falls that way. i really this guy could unify. i think he could -- neil: really? >> i think he could make americans strong and put people in place to help that. i think he has woken up a grew of people, neil, that have gone ignored. there is a group of people in america that feel like they have been ignored. i know that for a fact. they feel like this country has let them down and the left has hijacked and some of the right, has hijacked our nation. so this is what frum trump answers to. it is not anger. it is love of country. they have all, all of media is getting it wrong. and that is subversive act to me. really gets me upset. i've seen this country five

decades of what is has done. i'm not a stupid person. i went to college. i studied this stuff. there is something in the rotten in the state of denmark, we'll leave it with that. very, very affecting to me and rest of the nation. neil: i can't top that. i'll just quietly go to the break. thank you my friend, robert davi, you think about it. after this. it's a fact. kind of like ordering wine equals pretending to know wine. pinot noir, which means peanut of the night. icars to smart phones, requires lithium. pure energy, developing their nevada lithium project, signed a supply agreement with a company building the world's largest battery factory. pure energy minerals

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dollar is up, and oil are stocks, we tell you lower gas prices helping american consumers. stock market loves that oil is up, look at it. no it is up. it is unchanged. that ruins everything. go to break. go to stocks now. see what they're doing. they're up. oil is doing nothing stocks are up. go to energy stocks. see what they're doing. would be great if they're all up changed wouldn't it? oh, man, up 1%, 2%, 3%. put this all together, grand conclusion. stocks are up, driven by the energy sector. they're up. oil price is doing nothing. so makes no sense of it. we have no other theories. that is really what we're going with. neil back in just a moment with more "coast to coast." hey, i see you're working on your portfolio.

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other areas of conflict including yemen. one in particular that people are talking about on wall street is oshkosh. oshkosh makes armored vehicles now impervious to ieds, those explosive device. this is vehicle twice the tonnage of a humvee. basically oshkosh, neil, got, you will see right now, that is the vehicle they're talking about. they're talking about mechanized infantry troops across the middle east that will basically be protected against explosive devices this is company, neil, got $6.7 billion contract. could grow to 30 billion. back to you, neil, wow. thank you very much, lizzie. we have my buddy, knave lieutenant commander that served our country honorably. all the guys served honorably. they don't want to talk about. if it were me, good thing it isn't. tom, good to have you back. >> good to be back. neil: latest isis bits of news,

their top money guy was taken out in a coalition raid. then we learned that there was a lot of money he was overseeing, 500 million just a loan on oil, over a billion with everything else. so they got a lot of money. how do you ever get a handle on that? because what they do doesn't cost a lot? in other words attacks themselves they have waged have not been pricey and they have a lot of money. >> we've gotten real good at it with wars in afghanistan past 14 years, with network analysis figuring out where critical nodes to destroy. logisticians, people that move money around for organizations almost as important as getting operational cells themselves. neil: don't they pot up like more cockroaches at end? they come out of the woodwork. >> call it whac-a-mole. every time you kill one somebody is coming back. but if you have- neil: still recreating e-- recruiting effectively as far as

you know? >> absolutely. the space and time and sanctuary they have in the middle east is unprecedented. hundreds of millions of dollars flowing in and enough space and sanctuary to plan to, to recruit and train seconds in command. neil: all of these incidents, commander, inspire more up recruits? the. >> they do. they're really unfortunately good at pr game. the pr game they're winning until we decimate enough of their force and disassemble networks and have effect on their networks. neil: do we to do it. president independent doesn't want us to do it. those in region are not doing it. >> we have 14 years of success in afghanistan to varying degrees. success is nations participating in those operations on the ground. our department of treasury, our military, our department of defense, agencies within the united states government are really capable of doing this now.

we'll have to play some role in it. neil: do you agree with vladmir putin and donald trump, two different folks i grant you who say, nukes against isis, yeah, they're an option? >> it is natural that donald trump, excuse me, that vladmir putin would go that way. former kgb agent. his experience comes from the soviet-era where strategic deterrents state on state, mutually assured destruction actually worked to contain it. that threat was enough sometimes to dissuade from your adversary making a move. in this case you have the state not organized around principles our nations are organized but you have a quasi-state in the middle east that wants a cataclysmic event in the world. they want it. based on religious fervor -- neil: great war with the infidels. this would be it? >> not political or social or economic organization as much as it is something that would actually drive towards that kind of event. i don't know that it will be as

effective as vladmir putin thinks in dissuading isis from -- neil: i think he is thinking, i can't get in donald trump's head or his, you don't want to take any option off the table. >> that's smart from a national security perspective and diplomatic perspective to leave all options on the table but whether it is practical dealing with this enemy, isil, i don't think it will have the effect thinks it will have. neil: polite saying it is toilet garbage, what you're saying. tom, thank you very much, former navy commander that served this country very honorably. there are some, getting this from dow jones in the new york gop who want him banished from the party. not, persona non-grata, but banished. get out of our club, after this. ♪ you both have a

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neil: all right, we've had a rumble on the right at least when it comes to the empire state. joe loda, ran for mayor, lost to bill de blasio a couple years back. calling on manhattan republican party to kick donald trump out. he should be banished from the party. he is doing the party no good. mr. trump made many statements about immigrants, muslims, women, other topics diametrically opposed to the principles of the republican party. going on to say in the statement that this group that mr. loda represent, i believe in the power of democracy and let voters decide mr. trump's political future, someone who does not agree with what he is saying. the push to get him out. noelle nikpour to follows all of this. what do you make of it? >> you know what? a lot of people, including a big donor in miami, michael fernandez, taking anti-trump movement to heart by funding some attack ads and such not to

try to get donald trump discredited. neil: but doesn't that help him? doesn't that help him? doesn't that advance, name, cause, rebellious nature, the dna of his candidacy? >> exactly. i mean i think it is -- you're right. you hit the nail on the head. i think it is kind of counterproductive. i think donald trump is his own worst enemy. if they would just let it play out, maybe will get another candidate to finally get up the heat but spending time attacking him, neil, puts him back in the news. neil: there is that. i want to bring it up with a guy pushing this. gop consultant, brian murphy, considering this filing this with the party to get donald trump out of the party, at least in new york city. good to have you. i know you're on the phone. what is this about? >> hey, neil. how are you? joe loda brought this up on tv on monday night, about rules of new york. basically the answer is, should

donald trump be allowed to be a member of republican party here in new york based on his most recent comments? during this campaign cycle i watched from afar and paid attention to what he is saying, said things that are offensive and so forth, when he decided to offend everybody on re lining just basis, keeping people out of country based on religion, that is different story. neil: i know you're passionate about this. loda is passionate about this, good americans both. don't you feel voters should decide this. let voters kick him out if that is the case? >> given election law in new york state at this point, voters can kick him out. he can move to florida, with member about florida republican party around where he lives as well, and obey those election laws. he has to realize the reflection on republican party in its entirety. his noble idea of trying to protect our country is most important thing which this

president has failed miserably at but to deliver this kind of message and double down about keeping americans out of our country if they're muslim and just out of the country when he did that on monday shows, i believe, his lack of being genuine running for president at this point. neil: it hasn't hurt him in the polls, as you know it, brian. picked up eight points in south carolina. picking up nationally. hitting with a core of people. gets back to my view, you might be disgusted by that and others might share your view but -- >> how long do we stand on sidelines let this happen i would say. neil: let voters decide? let voters decide? >> we have to sit more than another month at this point listen to republican candidate talking like this? that is the question. neil: i'm not even saying good or bad. whether you're for donald trump or against donald trump where do you draw line on politicians you find obnoxious or antithetical to your views. >> i think this is not one-off issue.

he has written checks on regular basis to support democrats. supported democrats. he left the republican party and came back to the republican party. he is here at matter of convenience. neil: he started out democrat, right. >> he started out and became a republican. didn't change every few years. neil: i want to bring noelle nikpour in this. if he succeeds and i understand passion brian brings to this, many others share that view, it would be food fight among republicans and could be very divisive, would it not? >> yeah. i mean i understand what brian is saying not siding on sidelines and doing something to get donald trump out of here but it becomes part after sideline food fight like you said. i think we need to really focus getting through this process and let the voters decide. if they don't like donald trump and they don't think he represents the gop, voting him down, vote for cruz, rubio, bush, huckabee, kasich, vote for whoever you want and show the

power that you don't like donald trump by voting him out. and that is the way you do it. >> we may have an opportunity here in new york to vet him out before the primary process starts and let him join the republican party somewhere. but reality is, you can't stand up do what he is doing. neil: why is that your call? >> it is not my call and up to the committee. neil: you said it is up to the committee. up to a group of individuals. >> that is the election law here in new york. if you're going to be member of the republican party that's what you have to do. neil: how do you decide if he is turkey, right. >> historically, i was not about that with him. i was purely at what point do we stand up and say enough is enough? neil: okay. >> and he is representing the republican party at this point on regular basis. neil: all right. >> he needs to be called out for it. this is an opportunity. neil: we'll watch it closely. noelle, thank you for weighing in on this i'm discounting minutes or seconds of donald trump tweets on this. i have a feeling it might be very, very soon. stick around.

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