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one-size-fits-all solution the matter which side government picks. that is our show. see you next week. and so you s >> "fox and friends" back to the show. if what happened with the market this week did not spook you, how about lawmakers heading out without addressing the threat to the homeland? >> we have to be concerned with the pos kt that a terrorists organization may seek to resort the process. >> just more proof that the u.s. should not be taking in any refugees until it's changed. this is bulls and bears and the "bulls and bears" this week. welcome everybody. john, we just saw two men with
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suspected links to the terror attacks posing as syrian refugees in australia. did they make a mistake with leaving town without doing something about this? >> yeah, they did. they knew not what to do and went on vacation. they're awful. they need to stay home. this problem in syria is not going to stay there. we spent time relocating them through the united nations. the problem now is isis and the vetting process. i went to the homeland security website, and all of these things that they list heng on the bio data. now, what do you compare that to. do you go to the public lie blabrar or torn apart. half of the people are displaced or are refugees. you don't have anything to compare it to. if you take in 100,000, there's
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11 million out there between displaced and rev fugees and that's 99 percent. that's a drop in the bucket, and we're asking for problems. we have to deal with isis if we're going to deal with the process. >> isis has made no secrete because they want to use a trojan horse in the country. this is how it happens. >> yeah, this is the moment where the truth is impossible and it's a fog and war moment. we know that many are good and honest and others are going explode this. the only thing -- the bottom line and only thing that we know for sure is how dangerous the situation is. why wold we ever take a risk. it's like taking the family to a lake and it's covered and it's a nice tradition to go skating. you don't know how sick the isis
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is. congress dodged this one, and it's just crazy. >> let me think. you don't think that we're on thin ice, do you? >> no, not at all. this is point 000007 percent of the population. it's a minimutimal cost. it takes two years and 21 steps that we have to go through the state department and the department of defense. hhs and the fbi all before they come over and resettle in america. we're talking about a couple of a thousand compared to millions. half of lebanon is with the refugees. these are people that have to be vetted very carefully. if you want to look at it. >> there's no way to verify it. that's just not true. >> gary. >> that's true. you looked at one version of it. >> no, it came from the
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government. there's only one version. >> there are five agencies looking at this. not just one. >> let me bring in because they say woman and children. whether it was one that skated in and was one of the two murders in san bernardino, california. >> well, you know whether it's woman and children or whether it's people that we do not know and what we don't know, the problem is we don't know what we're doing wrong at this point. it's the same thing and we have secure top pictures on all of the airlines. why do we go through that. why do we go through the talks because you only need one to slip through and have the same san bernardino or a boston marathon bombing. that's what happens when you
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just -- congress picks up and you you don't have to figure it out and go home. if you don't know how to figure it out, close the doors until you do. >> you're willing to do all liberties and then go forward. why aren't we doing that? >> yeah, i will say that you only need one steve jobs in america. that's the greatest company in the world and he is a syrian refugees. you can destroy this whole thing and it will be a second one. the reason that it's number one is part of the immigration laws and the economy. now does that mean that everybody comes in when they want? of course. when you shut it off, dumb people are the ones that join this terror organization.
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if you have basic testing and like they have way back before computers, you could screen out 99.9 percent of suicide bombers. >> john, you're a dumb dumb if you think that they're not a threat to the homeland number one. number two he mentioned steve jobs father. isis is a newer real growing threat. we can not go back and make the comparisons, we have to live in the here and now, right? >> yeah, we have to. look at the begtwin towers. whether that person is smart or dumb, they caused damage. we had two wars over that. to say that we're playing into isis like a lot of people say, is stupid. we're playing in by not killing them. that's the way to solve this issue. we're not talking of cutting off the immigrants. we have 50 homeless vets that
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we're not care of. we're going over to syria and asking to fly them back at our defense. they're not knocking on the door. we're putting ourself in a problem that we're doing because of the risk that come with it. >> i think that it's common sense. we're not talking of the immigration. that would be terrible. we have to stop right now and found out what do now. there's so much uncertainty and that's not when you take a risk. you slow down and fix where you uphold. >> i think that there's a mat or certain type that falls into the planning pla plans. all of the people and the schools that are doing the tests would never fall for the nonsense. smart people should always be able to come to america. they're going to help and not going on food stamps and all of
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the junk that they're not going to do. >> the san bernardino shooters were educated. >> i just saw the debate and where they come from and religion and race. it's not like we have it on deck to point out people. >> keep in mind that 40 percent of companies were founded by immigrants. we have been doing this since 1975 and have not had had one attack. >> times have changed. >> we're not talking about the loophole. why are we not talking about that? this is something that's not actually happening. >> gary b, i will point this out that the people easiest to radicalize are those that are educated. they're engineers for example because they just -- they don't ask questions. they're very roped in the learning, and they don't ask questions. it's people that are educated
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that isis is trying to radicalize to the point. >> yeah. exactly. people whether they're educated or uneducated can slip through. that's the point that susie and i are trying to make. we have a system that right now we don't know if it's working. maybe it's all jonas. we don't know if it is or isn't. we have terrorists here and the head of the department of homeland security said that they certainly can infiltrate. let's just step back for a couple of months a year and isn't that the most common sense thing to do. >> that has to be the find word. >> these were not refugees. >> they were educated and te
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terrorists and killed people in the united states. neil, what's coming you up? >> terror threats closing the schools and everyone is settling for two percent growth? a lot of them are calling it the the new normal. just deal. you know what, i am not. time to raise held. what you say on social media is fair game when you're landing a job. not for a foreigner trying to land on soil. something is out of back. advocates being backed. we dare to ask you to decide. right at the bottom of the hour. >> thanks neil. we can't wait. up here first. if iraq is recruiting through money, the only of "bulls and
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bears." >> the terror organization has enough to fund it for three years. now the un is beefing up the sanctions to cut after the funding. the reason why they want to defed defeat them once and for all, we have to cut the cash. how do we do it? >> well for any of them if it's the cartels or iraq, money is the lifeline. he said armies run on the stomach. with isis, the stomachs are fed
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by the moneys and that's a bill dollars a year and bringing in oil, extortion, selling antiques. you cut them off you and start to cut them down. slowly by surely the way that they were brought down was not by the bombing or the gun. that's the way to cut down isis. >> it's grown more and more powerful and we ignored it and we investigated it and under investigated it by $400 million. >> okay. we can definitely get on top and all of the countries should get together with the global warming summit and they have to phase them out and the cooks live off of it and the were talking about. as far as what is required, it's not doable. when you like it and shaking down the business, and it's what isis does. we have to cop and security and beef it up and go there and protect them and arrest people.
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we have no authority. the point is that we can not seize the o oil and protect it. that's all that we have to do to stop the cash flow. >> we were not bombing the tank ers. john, we were not bombing the t tank ers. we were going after the refining oil. >> i don't know we have been so slow. the sanctions worked on iran when we did that with a deal that was not signed and horribly negotiated. the one thing that you can do with isis is cut off their funding. you have to do that and go to the countries and say anybody in your country that's with the government or not does business with isis, and we're going to put sanctions on the government.
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that's the best way to stop them or just kill them. >> susie, you know everything else about business. what do we need to be doing? >> well, i need to start with the un. chris christie used this term last week and i mean i would like to take that term and use it to describe the un and that's to the point and what will work? what can work and should work is an alliance between the banks and you are peuropean banks. it's hard to do anything without coming to the systems, and the u.s. justice department should be very successfully with the practice act. that's the rare government that's worked. so let's unleash the same energy on this. that's the scluolution. >> what i do know is that we have done so little in the economy that it's running has
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gotten beyobd the control, and beyond stopping it. >> let's not forget that the majority is cash. aside from that, let's see how they're making money. what i found interesting is that they're selling money to assad the enemy. so russia cosponsors this, and if russia is backing it, shoenlt we put more pressure on russia to crack down. you have the governments that should be sanctioned. i think that it's the only thing and it has to come to the u.s. i want to see russia attack assad for attacking money. >> gary b, quick final word for
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you. >> no these actions are not noble. we're not going to bend russia and we're going to have to do the bulk of this ourself. >> yeah, and it's called bombing. cashing in is just an over hour from now. what is coming up? a coast to coaster error threat in the classroom. one shutting down and one not. who made the right decision. why did ivy league ers sign away the rights? see you at 11:30. >> thanks. we will be watching. first the rates and
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if fed has spoken in nearly a decade and stocks are talking back after wednesday decision. will consumers pay for it? >> i read a poll and it said that the fed hikes are all over the news. guess what? 40 percent said that they were just faking it. i realize that this is a poll, and we can just assume many of the follower are in the business round, but you have 40 percent of people saying that, and it's going to affect them and every aspect of the consumers life. not right now, but over the course of the year. they will take a hit and do not know it. >> yeah, stocks took a hit down
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600 points on thursday and friday. >> yeah, the feds should have raised about a year ago. they really missed the window. i am not embarrassed on the consumer. the high yield market is float and the favors have been killed. the rich er is rich er and the poor er is poor er. rates are normalizing and that's not a huge affect on the consumer. >> gary b? >> well, the conventional wisdom is that any time that you take a look or a student loan or credit card loan, that's going go up. that's what happens, and it may not. outweighing the fed is always supply and demand. there's a high demand on thursday for treasury to yield and it went down it depends on
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what supply and demand is like? >> yeah, if you borrow softer terms, this is not the great t situation for you. if you work in the oil and gas business, you would hope that they did not do this and save your job. unfortunately as you you see, this is not the way that you're going with with it. >> who gets hurt? put a positive spin on the margr margret. >> the banks will lend more and it's going to open up and the u.s. dollar will improve over seas and seniors are going to get more into the retirement investment. there's a little bit of positive return here. >> what about the wabges here ad oil is collapsing. >> they won't let a working man earn a buck. >> thank you for joining us. see you soon.
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in the next year. >> i am an analog and when star wars goes to digital, itunesed out. i will tell you what i am coming back that's good for ten percent. >> thank you. we continue. terror threat and closing the schools and businesses. metal detectors appear nothing the magic kingdom. staff souring at sea world and a whole new vision screening universe. we're told that it's for our own safety so deal. glad to have you. i am neil and if this is the new normal someone tell me what defines normal. there's nothing normal about it or settling for what is going on. even ben stine and sometimes
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