if people are left free, good things usually happen. that's our show. see you next week. and so you s >> "fox and friends" back to the show. if what happened with the market this week did not spook you, how about lawmakers heading out without addressing the threat to the homeland? >> we have to be concerned with the pos kt that a terrorists organization may seek to resort the process. >> just more proof that the u.s. should not be taking in any refugees until it's changed. this is bulls and bears and the "bulls and bears" this week. welcome everybody. john, we just saw two men with

suspected links to the terror attacks posing as syrian refugees in australia. did they make a mistake with leaving town without doing something about this? >> yeah, they did. they knew not what to do and went on vacation. they're awful. they need to stay home. this problem in syria is not going to stay there. we spent time relocating them through the united nations. the problem now is isis and the vetting process. i went to the homeland security website, and all of these things that they list heng on the bio data. now, what do you compare that to. do you go to the public lie blabrar or torn apart. half of the people are displaced or are refugees. you don't have anything to compare it to. if you take in 100,000, there's

11 million out there between displaced and rev fugees and that's 99 percent. that's a drop in the bucket, and we're asking for problems. we have to deal with isis if we're going to deal with the process. >> isis has made no secrete because they want to use a trojan horse in the country. this is how it happens. >> yeah, this is the moment where the truth is impossible and it's a fog and war moment. we know that many are good and honest and others are going explode this. the only thing -- the bottom line and only thing that we know for sure is how dangerous the situation is. why wold we ever take a risk. it's like taking the family to a lake and it's covered and it's a nice tradition to go skating. you don't know how sick the isis

is. congress dodged this one, and it's just crazy. >> let me think. you don't think that we're on thin ice, do you? >> no, not at all. this is point 000007 percent of the population. it's a minimutimal cost. it takes two years and 21 steps that we have to go through the state department and the department of defense. hhs and the fbi all before they come over and resettle in america. we're talking about a couple of a thousand compared to millions. half of lebanon is with the refugees. these are people that have to be vetted very carefully. if you want to look at it. >> there's no way to verify it. that's just not true. >> gary. >> that's true. you looked at one version of it. >> no, it came from the

government. there's only one version. >> there are five agencies looking at this. not just one. >> let me bring in because they say woman and children. whether it was one that skated in and was one of the two murders in san bernardino, california. >> well, you know whether it's woman and children or whether it's people that we do not know and what we don't know, the problem is we don't know what we're doing wrong at this point. it's the same thing and we have secure top pictures on all of the airlines. why do we go through that. why do we go through the talks because you only need one to slip through and have the same san bernardino or a boston marathon bombing. that's what happens when you

just -- congress picks up and you you don't have to figure it out and go home. if you don't know how to figure it out, close the doors until you do. >> you're willing to do all liberties and then go forward. why aren't we doing that? >> yeah, i will say that you only need one steve jobs in america. that's the greatest company in the world and he is a syrian refugees. you can destroy this whole thing and it will be a second one. the reason that it's number one is part of the immigration laws and the economy. now does that mean that everybody comes in when they want? of course. when you shut it off, dumb people are the ones that join this terror organization.

if you have basic testing and like they have way back before computers, you could screen out 99.9 percent of suicide bombers. >> john, you're a dumb dumb if you think that they're not a threat to the homeland number one. number two he mentioned steve jobs father. isis is a newer real growing threat. we can not go back and make the comparisons, we have to live in the here and now, right? >> yeah, we have to. look at the begtwin towers. whether that person is smart or dumb, they caused damage. we had two wars over that. to say that we're playing into isis like a lot of people say, is stupid. we're playing in by not killing them. that's the way to solve this issue. we're not talking of cutting off the immigrants. we have 50 homeless vets that

we're not care of. we're going over to syria and asking to fly them back at our defense. they're not knocking on the door. we're putting ourself in a problem that we're doing because of the risk that come with it. >> i think that it's common sense. we're not talking of the immigration. that would be terrible. we have to stop right now and found out what do now. there's so much uncertainty and that's not when you take a risk. you slow down and fix where you uphold. >> i think that there's a mat or certain type that falls into the planning pla plans. all of the people and the schools that are doing the tests would never fall for the nonsense. smart people should always be able to come to america. they're going to help and not going on food stamps and all of

the junk that they're not going to do. >> the san bernardino shooters were educated. >> i just saw the debate and where they come from and religion and race. it's not like we have it on deck to point out people. >> keep in mind that 40 percent of companies were founded by immigrants. we have been doing this since 1975 and have not had had one attack. >> times have changed. >> we're not talking about the loophole. why are we not talking about that? this is something that's not actually happening. >> gary b, i will point this out that the people easiest to radicalize are those that are educated. they're engineers for example because they just -- they don't ask questions. they're very roped in the learning, and they don't ask questions. it's people that are educated

that isis is trying to radicalize to the point. >> yeah. exactly. people whether they're educated or uneducated can slip through. that's the point that susie and i are trying to make. we have a system that right now we don't know if it's working. maybe it's all jonas. we don't know if it is or isn't. we have terrorists here and the head of the department of homeland security said that they certainly can infiltrate. let's just step back for a couple of months a year and isn't that the most common sense thing to do. >> that has to be the find word. >> these were not refugees. >> they were educated and te

terrorists and killed people in the united states. neil, what's coming you up? >> terror threats closing the schools and everyone is settling for two percent growth? a lot of them are calling it the the new normal. just deal. you know what, i am not. time to raise held. what you say on social media is fair game when you're landing a job. not for a foreigner trying to land on soil. something is out of back. advocates being backed. we dare to ask you to decide. right at the bottom of the hour. >> thanks neil. we can't wait. up here first. if iraq is recruiting through if iraq is recruiting through money, the only

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by the moneys and that's a bill dollars a year and bringing in oil, extortion, selling antiques. you cut them off you and start to cut them down. slowly by surely the way that they were brought down was not by the bombing or the gun. that's the way to cut down isis. >> it's grown more and more powerful and we ignored it and we investigated it and under investigated it by $400 million. >> okay. we can definitely get on top and all of the countries should get together with the global warming summit and they have to phase them out and the cooks live off of it and the regime and they were talking about. as far as what is required, it's not doable. when you like it and shaking down the business, and it's what isis does. we have to cop and security and beef it up and go there and protect them and arrest people.

we have no authority. the point is that we can not seize the o oil and protect it. that's all that we have to do to stop the cash flow. >> we were not bombing the tank ers. john, we were not bombing the t tank ers. we were going after the refining oil. >> i don't know we have been so slow. the sanctions worked on iran when we did that with a deal that was not signed and horribly negotiated. the one thing that you can do with isis is cut off their funding. you have to do that and go to the countries and say anybody in your country that's with the government or not does business with isis, and we're going to put sanctions on the government.

that's the best way to stop them or just kill them. >> susie, you know everything else about business. what do we need to be doing? >> well, i need to start with the un. chris christie used this term last week and i mean i would like to take that term and use it to describe the un and that's to the point and what will work? what can work and should work is an alliance between the banks and you are peuropean banks. it's hard to do anything without coming to the systems, and the u.s. justice department should be very successfully with the practice act. that's the rare government that's worked. so let's unleash the same energy on this. that's the scluolution. >> what i do know is that we have done so little in the economy that it's running has

gotten beyobd the control, and beyond stopping it. >> let's not forget that the majority is cash. aside from that, let's see how they're making money. what i found interesting is that they're selling money to assad the enemy. so russia cosponsors this, and if russia is backing it, shoenlt we put more pressure on russia to crack down. you have the governments that should be sanctioned. i think that it's the only thing and it has to come to the u.s. i want to see russia attack assad for attacking money. >> gary b, quick final word for

you. >> no these actions are not noble. we're not going to bend russia and we're going to have to do the bulk of this ourself. >> yeah, and it's called bombing. cashing in is just an over hour from now. what is coming up? a coast to coaster error threat in the classroom. one shutting down and one not. who made the right decision. why did ivy league ers sign away the rights? see you at 11:30. >> thanks. we will be watching. first the rates and i have asthma... ...one of many pieces in my life. so when my asthma symptoms kept coming back

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600 points on thursday and friday. >> yeah, the feds should have raised about a year ago. they really missed the window. i am not embarrassed on the consumer. the high yield market is float and the favors have been killed. the rich er is rich er and the poor er is poor er. rates are normalizing and that's not a huge affect on the consumer. >> gary b? >> well, the conventional wisdom is that any time that you take a look or a student loan or credit card loan, that's going go up. that's what happens, and it may not. outweighing the fed is always supply and demand. there's a high demand on thursday for treasury to yield and it went down it depends on

what supply and demand is like? >> yeah, if you borrow softer terms, this is not the great t situation for you. if you work in the oil and gas business, you would hope that they did not do this and save your job. unfortunately as you you see, this is not the way that you're going with with it. >> who gets hurt? put a positive spin on the margr margret. >> the banks will lend more and it's going to open up and the u.s. dollar will improve over seas and seniors are going to get more into the retirement investment. there's a little bit of positive return here. >> what about the wabges here ad oil is collapsing. >> they won't let a working man earn a buck. >> thank you for joining us. see you soon.

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that it's up another 20 percent in the next year. >> i am an analog and when star wars goes to digital, itunesed out. i will tell you what i am coming back a that's good for ten percent. >> thank you. we continue. terror threat and closing the schools and businesses. metal detectors appear nothing the magic kingdom. staff souring at sea world and a whole new vision screening universe. we're told that it's for our own safety so deal. glad to have you. i am neil and if this is the new normal someone tell me what defines normal. normal about it or settling for what is going on. even ben stine and sometimes

adam and charlie and katie are having their fill of it. charles, it's just deal attitude that we're getting. you don't like it? >> no, it should be kill the enmir so that we can get back to the lives. do what they're supposed to do and last saturday going to the mall and the entire mall evacuated. the entire mall evacuated. the entire school is evacuated. we don't want to live like this and should not have to. >> i agree. the president says that we have to take in more syrian rev you -- that's what we have to do. as we're doing that, just deal with the other stuff.

he is looking to what i think the way of life just to satisfy his goal to boost the rules of democratic voters. >> yeah, 2,500 syrians are going to elect. >> not when you keep it rolling year after year, it helps. >> yeah, and it's just setting and getting used to this. it's like getting used to the two percent growth and getting used to the fact that we're going to have recovery. that's the way that it is and getting used to the fact that it's on the uptake. that's going deal and it's settling for stuff. it worked for me in school, and the upside. i don't know about the american policy. what do you think? >> well, the first thing is that the reason that it's evacuated, the husband called because he did not want to go to shopping at the last minute. >> yeah, that's another domestic terrorism. >> to anxious the questiswer th

think that it's a good thing. we get come play september and that's why some of these things happen. we see something and don't necessarily say something. when you look at who is increasing the security in the private sector and sea world, disney world and land, they're doing it for two reasons. they don't want to be sued if something happens. and secondly they don't want something to happen in the parks that could be down the road detrimental. >> they all did this of their own and not because of the government. with disney those 14 and older could not dress up. your thoughts on the whole thing. >> well with, i would just like to say first of allel that i don't like katie coming on the show and being reasonable. i am the one that's supposed to say the reasonable things. >> he is the one that's going to say let the kid bring in the

te telephone that looks like a b m bomb. no problem with that. >> i don't like that. >> well, nobody likes that. >> apparently they do. we're all settling for it. we're all okay with the sub par. >> well, on this topic i don't see why we're settling. number one you don't have to agree with what the president is doing. we're trying to beat the enemy. that's the issue. >> no, we're not. no we're not. >> okay. let me finish my point. >> would you rather we stick the head in the sand and say that's cool. i rather we win and crush them and stick their heads and bodies in the sand. >> i know that you're changing the subject. >> i'm not changing the subject. you kill isis and this goes away.

i do want to end up with ben and it's the same argument that we settle for the same response to the same old terror. we settle for the growth because we can not remember the time and growth and what it was. we settle for the jobs and then settle and settle and settle for the u.s. and though the being a world leader like it used to be. i think that bit by bit gives away the dna and gives away who we are. that's our bias. >> i am a fan and i don't think that the two percent growth rate has a thing to do with the theme parks. i think that we're moving to the style security state. i don't think that we can boom isis out of existence. it represents a mental illness. i think that we have to high heighten security for the future. i don't see a thing wrong with it.

>> i think i am willing to do it. my only point and i hear what you're saying. we expect when we hear the media and the president outlines another one and how we're going deal with it, it's the same issues and how to do. we expect the same one. we expect the same responses and that's what i am lumping it. >> yeah, it's whatever. >> it's not the same response. the whole country is changing dramatically. >> the leader are not getting it. >> it's all got to change. >> ben. ben. why should we -- i don't think that ben agrees but why don't we expect the same policy that has the lunatic toss the country? >> i could not agree more. donald trump said something about bringing the muslims and stopping them from the country. his theory was right.

there are people in certain countries that they're importing that want to kill us. >> yeah. >> absolutely. it's about time that we stop the immigration from the countries. >> i will tell you why but they have to remember -- you have to go back to first principal. it's a fundamental to the country's values. >> no, it's not. >> where does the word appear in the constitution? >> it does not. >> it's the idea of people wanting go kill us. >> i will say it once. >> can we bring it back to the context of what we're talking about here? we're talking -- >> you should be the host. >> the guest is butting into the conversation here. we talk about the new normal and

security and people feeling on edge and not going to the mall or same bars because they feel that they're not safe. he makes a point because the people that came here and carried out the attacks came here as immigrants, and look at the state department releasing yesterday and saying that they're going to revisit the k 1 visa program and if it's too easy for people that are marrying to come to this country legally even. is it too easy to do that? >> we have to win the war with isis and you have home grown terrorists. he was born in america. you have to destroy isis. it's not about putting up a fence and being safe. if we do not destroy them, they inspire. >> it's a combination of everything. we have to do more than one thing at once. >> that's the point. we're settling for second best and you have to have an effort.

>> the crazy thing is that we can't. by the way kill them and don't bring them in here. >> ben, you remember a time when the kids in school used to practice hiding and they thought that the union. >> very well. >> we lived through periods of that and when we won, we did not have to live through them anymore. >> i know but the soviet union was not a form of mental illness. they could not destroy it. that's mental illness, and it's not going to stop. >> did you just say that co communism was stupid? >> yeah. >> you know what charlie you're right. you're right. >> by the way coming up. why the brightest mind on the plan at the time. this is exactly why the

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welch and ted cruz is not the problem, you are. he has more than a trillion reasons that he is right. better than a $1 trillion budget that he says is all wrong, and a spending bill that leads us paying the bill. this from the party that controls congress. so charles i am jacked up. >> yeah, that's an amazing point. think of that th and the debate, all of washington insiders huddled together. how can we put more debt on the grandchildren. it's extraordinary and i cannot believe it. this is why there's a revolution going on. people are upset and they may gravitate but washington has let us down. >> we should point out that jack was an establishment for the republican. he is supporting it.

>> yeah, i did say that. >> did you say -- >> no, but he is supporting ted cruz. >> okay. >> he did not read the tell prompter. >> that would be the tell prompter. that's not the time of the year to say this, but i hate you. >> i love you. love. >> we will figure this out at home. >> yeah. >> i will say this. the reason why ted cruz and donald trump is catching up is because if you read it and they're controlling the senate and the house. i know that paul ryan made the points that they can not have it all. how about get nothing. >> what he is saying why do you settle? >> well i think that republicans have a real problem with standing up to not t just the establishment but also to president obama. they're not willing to go down the path of fighting the pr battle of the government shut down. they're not willing to fight for what they want. getting that and the excuse is

that we're not going to get that and that's ridiculous. they control the house and senate. this spending bill increasing the spending more underthe republicans in congress than it did during the democratic rule. it's e stounding how much they're spending here. this is why ted cruz is in the second place and leading behind trump and why he is getting support from people that are sick and tired of putting their efforts into the campaign and money to the campaigns and saying that they like them and say that they're going change them when they go. >> i think that it was one of the systems that affects and they're and tired of being sick and tired. >> i don't think that it's going to last long at all. this is the government as usual. when you go through the articles about the spending bill, they're spending money on things not that terrible. the tax cuts are not that terrible. it just does not look to me all

that terrible. >> the only thing that i would complain about is this. we have to default. that's going to happen some day. >> yeah, that's the point. we have 80 million more in spending. that seems like chump change and we're celebrating deficits going down. does that trouble you? >> yeah. i think that no, i think that it's funny neil. no, lots of things trouble me. >> i don't think that that it's a challenge. i think of it as one of the movies that we're looking at the same thing and i am seeing it differently. i am seeing democracy working. >> maybe you're watching the mov movie high. let him finish. >> let me make a point. neil, this is what you're so good on the political tactics.

they, yes the republicans control both houses, but they do not have the votes to pass them. >> you know what they have now? they do have the bully culprit of the debates this get 15 million people watching them. >> yeah, we're going see it again. we're going to have another one because fox is hosting the next republican debate. we will be in charleston, south carolina for that. we hope that you can watch that. back to more of the show. checking out social media before terrorists can check into america. are we not already doing its? today on forbes, fbi or president obama. some say that it's the fbi director that's giving us a

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if someone is applying for citizenship to the united states it is entirely reasonable that we ask for their social media -- if half the employers in america are doing it in the private sector, if colleges are doing it for students why wouldn't the

department of homeland security do it for someone coming from a terrorist country? >> when the bad guys are laughing in our face maybe this is a good time to stop the next bad guys by looking in their facebook. ben says yes. >> absolutely. without question. the only thing is there are so many postings on facebook, so many are in arabic or other foreign languages where do we get the people to read it? if there is word processing or word reading software to read it, do we strus it? this is an opportunity and an urgent safety and security need. >> i was surprised we didn't do that already. you do it in job searches and applicants you look for to fill a position. not for probably the most crucial application of all coming to the united states. >> just to clarify what ben said, we are not talking about scraping the internet for isis propaganda but people who applied to the system. this is my name, my facebook. >> your not saying that ben

didn't clarify it. are you clarifying what you think ben didn't? >> i'm clarifying what i think ben did not. sounds like we are looking at random people, not people who applied. >> all right. >> i'm so happy only half the employers don't check facebook. i guess roger would see me in my speedo, right? >> time is running out. what do you think? >> let it go. >> that's right. >> don't encourage him. >> they have algorithms capable of looking for key words. certain key words to pull them out to raise a red flag. >> adam, were you surprised? you probably knew the policy existed. i didn't. i thought it was perfunctory, but it isn't. >> the government doesn't need to add new laws, just add it to the repertoire. >> you would be open to the

government looking at facebook, right? >> well, at the first order it's just there. it's all information. >> you're on the same page as me. >> correct. yes, i am. >> no fight here. >> i think you should friend him. >> right now. >> all right, guys. thank you very much. truncated time. katie, thank you. please come back. >> i will come back. >> i wouldn't blame you if what super poligrip does for me is it keeps the food out. before those little pieces would get in between my dentures and my gum and it was uncomfortable. just a few dabs is clinically proven to seal out more food particles. super poligrip is part of my life now.

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they were too hawkish this week. >> i want to thank you all. impressive markets. i want to issue everyone watching the marriest christmas happy holiday. remember, you are our gift. four new speeches from the president and no new strategy to fite terror. nothing to calm america's nerves. did we hear he assuring straight talk from the fbi director? listen. >> before they left, trying to commit mass murder. one exchanged 109 messages with somebody we know is a terrorist outside the united states. i have no idea what they said. i still can't tell you what they said. they communicated with each other that morning 109 times using a mobile messaging app that's end to end encrypted. we recognize we are all americans trying to keep people fe