lou: thank you for being with us in fort gibson. still in texas. our online poll, 77% of you don't believe democrats will join republicans in sufficient numbers to stop obama's $150 billion giveaway to the iranians. may it not be so. good night. reporter: terrorists killed 10 journalists. john: what you say could get you killed. it's only muslims who seem to be doing the killing over speech. >> want to go pick a fight with islam is insane. >> the deep you stick your head in the sand, the bigger the problem. john: even the american colleges

want to temperature control speech. >> a safe space is where cultures go to die. >> these are not fragile snowflakes. >> the solution to all these speech issues is more speech. >> we need to disagree. this is what makes america great. john: we trash politicians and celebrities. but there is one group people fear speaking about. >> isis taking responsibilities for sunday's shooting here in texas. john: this shooting happened att a draw mohammad contest.s >> the winner of the contest won the contest with this cartoon.

>> we have the right to express ourselves. we as americans. john: why? >> if we stop drawing mohammad we become a little more unfree. john: many news outlets refuse to show his drawings. john: they don't want to be killed. >> i don't want to be killed either. i want free speech. john: "charlie hebdo" wanted to support free peach, too.ef >> the gunmen shouting allah acroshakbar. >> this dutchman was murdered on the street. >> this man tried to speak at a

free speech events. aney rushed the stage shouting allah akbar. all over the world people are killed for criticizing islam. >> he was harked to death. >> even "charlie hebdo"'s cartoonists have announced we'll no longer draw mohammad. many muslims say it's about time. reporter: this woman speaks for cair. the council for airman-islammic relations. she says it's offensive to depict the prophet. but she says care rrl is against violence.f john: it's only muslims to seem to be doing the killing over speech.

>> these are a select few minority group of people from within.. john: there are almost 2 billion muslims in the world and most are not violent. some people say in the west muslims need special protection. in america muslims are sometimes discriminated against minority. they ought to be kinder, respect their culture.> >> what about free speech. >> portraying mohammad as angry. >> he was a killer, he killed people. vaughn * in canada you were putt on trial for what you wrote.thi. markstein wrote the growing muslim populations will soon take over the west. >> why should we not be able to say mean things. john: stein fought his government in storage and won.

no one can be stopped from situation they believe. but some people are. >> molly norris is a liberal cartoonist who has predictable views on every liberal view. an episode of south park got canceled because they made a mild mohammad joke, butway was a joke about how you can't make a mohammad joke. see just, but today, mohammad. john: comedy central evenon bleeped out the name mohammad. >> i learned something today. they bleached 35 seconds of their show. john: south park criticizes everybody. >> they are offensive about everybody and it's fine. but they have made the mildest

pathetic mohammad joke you can imagine. john: episode 201 never aired again. >> molly norris wanted to start a draw mohammad day in protest d this censorship. m john: then she got death threat so she disappeared. >> the way they announced she was over. she ceased to exist. they said "there is no more molly." nobody knows if thee is alive or dead, the on people who write you. her are a few of us right-wing nut job.eg why does no liberal care about that? what happened to molly norris is going to happen to you and you and you. john: cair said it's legal to draw the cartoon but you shouldn't out of respect. >> in a theoretically happy

world people would not draw cartoons of mohammad and make jokes about catholicism. but when only one religion kills people it's necessary to stand up and argue for the right to do that. john: stein stands up.. >> our host was shot at point blank range. the artist has gone into hiding. there was a norwegian comeed even whose family restaurant was fire bombed. to and of the six people on stage, there is two of us left. when is cair going to stand up against people who want to kill those who disagree with them. john: they say they stand up against them. they say they are against killing. you should be respectful and not

draw mow ham had. >> in this case respectful is a bogus code word.oo the only way we'll move to a real sense of freedom is if every time somebody puts a bullet in a cartoonist for drawing a cartoon of mohammad is if every newspaper displays that picture. john: but they won't. >> want to go pick a fight with islam is insane. why would you want to make them hate you? john: after the texas shooting some people blamed the activists who organized the contest. why do we need to be mean? >> hate is part of what it is to be human. john: but polls show a plurality of americans support laws that ban hate speech.sa >> what is hate speech? if you apply hate speech

according to the times they are saying, 2/3 of the quran are hate speech. john: she grew up under islam and now criticizes it. >> the ideas on which america is found on are superior. john: she knows both cultures. >> i was raised in a muslim country. my father married me when i was -- married me off when i was 22. by that type i was old enough, mature enough and i defied her.l her -- defied him. >> on 9/11 i started to speak out. i saw on television young people celebrate the fact that 3,000 americans were killed and the towers were brought down. this is somebody who had been known to express hateful attitude and bigoted remarks

about muslim islam. there are people who could besl incited to violence because of her comment. john: she is inciting violence against you? >> she called for the destruction of islam. she is speaking in a hate new way. >> i did not cause 9/11. i did not kidnap 276 girls in nigeria. john: there are bis of muslims in the world and most are not violent. >> still we cannot run away from the fact that when it comes to violence committed in the name of religion, islam is number one. >> for saying that, she is wanted dead or alive. john: why is it up to you, you could have stayed in holland and lived a quiet life.

>> i could have been quiet in my loom, but how would i feel about myself. you can put your head in the sand as deep as you like. but if you are confronted with a grim reality like this, people murdering in the name of their god with, the more you particular your head in the sand, the bigger the problem gets. john: when we return, the assault on free speech on campus. on the floor! everybody down! nobody move! on the floor!

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university john: you heard universities are politically correct and they are sometimes in ridiculous ways. university of tennessee students were hold don't use him and her, use hir and zir. the new twist, some campus leftists say some viewpoint must never be heard. even family friendly comicir say -- >> don't go near come does, they are so p.c. >> chris rock said he stoppedth playing colleges because of their unwillingness to offend

sensody. john: the president said if you hear something you don't like. >> you should have an argument with them. t you shouldn't silence them because i'm too sensitive. john: all i hear is colleges are awful places for free speech. >> the reason you feel this is such a big deal because thehe media exang rates it. >> if you can't handle a gay rights activist calling you a homophobe, put on your big boy pant, jerry. john: these days most campus criticism is targeted only at one viewpoint. t kirsten power says the left is silencing people. >> offensive speech on campus is

having a non-liberal view. june * the students are young and vulnerable and the college said they need to be protected from nasty ideas. >> instead of people saying i disagree with what you say, they say i'm sorry i'm offended. and it could traumatize me. >> the little snowflakes can't handle it. these are not fragile snowflakes. these people are intimidators. >> if you want to send your kid to a place where they are protected from reality, then you send them to a daycare center. john: brandeis planned to give ali a degree for defending students. but when she was accused much hate speech they canceled her invitation.

>> a woman who stood up to 10 years of death threats is too hot for brandeis to handle. >> run and hide, we have to get to the safe space before the rhetorical bombs start falling. >> there is going to be a space in wilder. >> a safe place is where cultures go to die. >> the safe space with the teddy bears and cra cray crayolas. a john: she is not kidding. >> when it comes to having sex of any particular variety they want to have, but they are not allowed to be exposed to a speaker who might discomfort them. there were people having theird heads chopped off all over the middle east. there are christians having their churches burned down.

but in the most pampered indulgent society in human history young people feel threatened because christina somers has been invited. john: somers is sceptical of the claim there is an epidemic of campus sexual assault. >> she is willing to talk and debate but they don't want her to. they treat disagreement as an assault against them and theyid are justified in silencing people even in one case attacking someone. >> she is a professor and she steals signs. reporter: this video begins right after the attack. you see a professor and her a student snatch this sign from a 16-year-old pro-life demonstrator. when the sign owner complained, the professor smiles at her students. the professor admits she stole the sign.

but she says i may be a thief but your terrorists. she says she was justified because the graphic abortion steins were offensive. >> don't touch me. reporter: she cut the sign up and attacked a 16-year-old pro-life protester who was trying to get the sign back.ca john: and the professor. t she still works there. i once experienced the campus attitude. after a male students was dprusmed off campus after having sex with a female student. they drowned me out. >> rape is not tv hype. come on, everybody, louder. down* i couldn't even get a question out. they pulled out my my crowe phone cord.

>> what happened you have to is wrong. but let's remember what a college is. 18-21-year-old people are being exposed to ideas, and some of them get incredibly passionate by the and they make bad mistakes.. it's not very often you see theh heckler veto. don john: bill maher was invited to speak but some students tried tt ban him because he criticized the islam. >> i guess they don't teach irony in college anymore. these libertarian students were told they could not post these flyers criticizing both presidents obama and bush. don't colleges need rules to keep people civil? hate speech isn't nice. >> are you always nice? >> dixie state told level provocative speech must be limited to this free speech zone.

at least here they thought students would be free to write their opinions on this poster. but this cop showed up.at reporter: someone asked number he was looking for hate speech and he said yes. reporter: this guy in the cowboy hat was going to write something but he was scared off by the police officer. >> you can't limit the free speech in is that what it says in the constitution. john: people can say whatever they want in the free speech zone. >> first all, the country is a free speech zone. you don't get to decide whatra other people are going to say or hear. that's not the way this country operates and it shouldn't be how campuses off rate. -- operate. john: some companies operate this way, too. >> losing a job is one thing, but being black listed from my industry that i have 20 years of experience in is a mucharier

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political leaders. we are free to john: in democracies free speecw is important. h we need to be able to speak about our political leaders. i'm sure we are able to speak so i was stunned when i learned what happened in wisconsin. life walking quiet in the town of middleton. but before dawn people twoing hear something like this. police with battering rams -- >> a series of terrifying raids -- >> pre-dawn paramilitary raids on homes.li >> i returned downstairs. john: so did her teenaged son. they opened the door beforeo police knocked it down. the officers told them they were under criminal investigation. give us your computers, cell phones, files, and don't talk to anyone. >> we would be subject to jail

time and a fine if we told anybody about the search on our home. john: did they say why? >> no. report very school buses drove by, the neighbors wondered. >> does it mean her husband is a pedophile. are they drug dealers? >> some people came up to me at school and said what happened at your house. >> you practiced politics. >> i'm a political consultants and do communication work. but we were involved with governor walker's campaign. >> include were cliewfdingaw against campaign laws in wisconsin. l political insiders imposed laws top limit what people can say. this democratic activist likes it. the laws are what they are. when it comes to a john doe

investigation there is an aura of secrecy. don't tell anyone you are being investigated. >> it was about 5:30, it was dark outside. reporter: noah johnson's home was raided, too. he was 16 and home alone. his parents left early that morning. my miles are racial. already flashlights everywhere. >> he wanted to call his parents but the police wouldn't let him. >> they didn't let me call anyone. reporter: hours later they said he could leave for school but he must not tell anyone about the police. >> i was almost 2 1/2 hours late for school, and there is no way you can try to explain to it anyone.bu john: they said why are you have late? >> i just said i can't say. >> prosecutors claim it protects innocent people but it reallyve protects prosecutors from

scrutiny. >> it's a tool to give powerful prosecutors. they came after us because we were effective. john: you were told you may not speak but you have did anyway. >> i was the only one to openly defy the secrecy owner. he told the "wall street journal" who call it political attacks on conservatives who supported scott walker. >> telling students no you cannot call your parents and you cannot call an attorney and you cannot tell the school why you are late. john: this john doe prosecution was supposed to protect the innocent. >> the leftists are using it as a political tool. l two republican district attorneys signed off on the raid. >> everyone attacking me is a career government employee. john: you think there should bed

less government. john: you were hit with a john doe investigation. >> along with a whole lot of staffers and elected officials. john: didn't it feel wrong out of that you were told to shut tt up? >> no, i don't think so. >> the make district southern john chisholm is the lead bad guy. john: he's a democrat who opposed scott walker.ri we've asked him to appear on this program and he didn't respond. it sounded like the make district attorney wanted to punish you. nobody stepped up and said this is wrong. they sat silent. >> the wisconsin supreme court ordered a john doe investigation.he which *'s top court finally sair prosecutors applied theories of

law that do not exist. >> they get. they saw what we went through. john: you have did nothing wrong? >> no, we didn't do anything wrong. >> it's a speech suppression play. john: it basically silenced the club for growth for five years. >> the gag orders are completely disgusting. a wisconsin court gets an order to go to a nice residential cul-de-sac and kick down the door and terrorize the family. if people aren't mad about whatf happened in wisconsin, there is no turbulence left in america. the spirit manifests itself in people's willingness to get outraged. john: i'm mad about wisconsin. >> i was silenced. >> we fired for voicing an

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some tried to ban rap lyrics and video games and playboy magazine. but today it is the leftist who john: conservatives were once called against free speech. >> i was silenced. john: when melissa francis onngh msnbc suggested obama's math didn't 5eu7d. >> i was called into the president's office to say i was disrespecting the president. >> they don't want to hear ideas that they disagree with and they don't want other people to hear ideas they disagree with. john: gay marriage, affirmative action, the left often says the debate is over.

>> that's it. there is nothing else to talk about.offe liberals typically believe in free speech and debate, based on the idea, let the best idea wino now it's i'm offended. if you don't shut up we'll call you a bigot and homophobe. we'll call you something that will make everybody else not want anything to do with you. john: after rush limbaugh said that about political activist sandra fluff, liberals tried too get hip fired. >> i'm not a big fan of rush limbaugh but if you are part after website devoted to making him go away, you are part of the problem. >> if i'm getting on a plane and

i see people in muslim garb. i get nervous. any any north especially a black person is not allowed to be anything but a liberal. >> hi, everybody. john: campbell brown once gave money to democrats. but then she dared criticize teacher tenure. the left then attacked her. but they barely attacked her argument. they smeared her character. >> you are a bill bow, a beauty queen, rather than attack her on the issue -- debate her on the issue.e. >> i'm sure you get comment on your website and emails. john: toughen up. >> the public dialogue is not a place for the bashful.

quit being a bunch of wimps. john: this left-leaning column tonight says people on the left don't silence anyone. >> i think that's mistake on say that's a conspiracy to the left. there are exang rated intolerant views across the political spectrum. >> i don't say conservatives never do it. but i don't see anyone saying someone offended a conservative, i might lose my job. >> when she started to investigate the obama administration, she was a secret covert operation and they tried to delegitimize her. >> she had a marvelous career ii journal itch that went on for decade. reporter: powers book, her

friend don't think there is a problem. >> they don't see it because it's not covered by the mainstream media. the "l.a. times" won't publish letters to the editor that question climate change. reporter: the "l.a. times" said it won't allow readers to question climate change. >> i think you should debate them. make your argument. but this isn't what they want to do. they want to shut it down. john: and this works. >> it absolutely works. john: it worked on him and hip and them. they all lost jobs because loud people on the left screams about something they said. that's next.

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network. john: but then the producers learned that the brothers spoark at a prayer rally that criticized homosexuality. >> the very first question was are you guys anti-gay. john: you did say homosexuality and its agenda attacking the nation. >> we don't hate gaze at all. it's not hateful to say sex should be within the confines of marriage between a man and woman as good defined it. they take our word like you just did and say you hate gaze. >> we had been filming for five weeks. we had taken roofs off houses. there was a lot of money invested in the show. the first amendment applies only to government. private businesses can have any speech rule they want.

john: it's a private company and they have a right to fire. >> they do, but every one of these victories is a victory for a shariffing space for public expression. >> we are not victims. they gave us an opportunity andd paid us for six weeks really good money. >> i made a lot of jokes that were probably edgy. john: pax dickinson joked with rape and says it's not any song any to enjoy boobies. john: people said -- >> i should be fired, drummed out of tech. being black listed from my industry that i have 20 years experience in. john: your tweets are racist,

sexist, homophobic. >> they couldn't find anybody to say i was sexist or racist professionally. >> people who disagree politically with the left are attacked. >> the food network has dropped paula deen. john: paula deen was fired after she admitted using the "n" word 30 years ago. she tried to save her career with this apology, but the food network never took her back. when the owners of chick-fil-a said we oppose gay marriage. i people protests. the mayors of chicago, and boston and san francisco, saying chick-fil-a is not welcome. >> ideological enforcement.

free societies do not have state ideologies. john: no new chick-fil-as have opened in san francisco, chicago, or boston. leftists also attacked this physicist. he helped land a probe on a comet. but he said that while wearingak this shirt which some people called offensive. sexist. >> i shirt i wore -- i made a big mistake and i offended many people and i'm very sorry about this. john: the physicist didn't even fight back. he cried at his apology press conference. >> and they destroy him anyway. what they are doing here is making an example to others. reporter: they maid an -- made an example of brendan eich after

eight was discovered he made a $2,000 donation in support of proposition 8. but in 2008 even leftists said -- >> i'm not in favor of gay marriage. just four years later opposing gay marriage was no longer politically correct. >> he was accused of homophobia and bigotry. a year later eich still can't find work. >> he invented one of the most popular programming languages we use today and found the mozilla browser. his opinion was the popular opinion in california at that time and he still lost his job for it. >> there is a vengefulness to this. brendan eich isn't an evil person. he just has a different points of view. john: part of the problem is he didn't speak out.

the star of duck dynasty did.ll after robertson is criticized for telling gq magazine he kerred homosexual behavior sinful. he didn't back off. >> i'm from the running from anything. >> he stood itch to it. reporter: the tv network earned- his suspension. chick-fil-a spoke out in its defense of its owners' beliefs and sales soared. >> the answer is always to push back twice as hard. john: the beenham brothers pushed back. a week after they lost their tvi show, someone told them, one of your clients, sun trust bank is actually going to be removing all of their business from you and your franchisees. i got nervous thinking we would lose all of our business as a result of a smear campaign. so we decided to take the story public.

john: they told a kreb site and suddenly people started tweeting. >> within 8 hours we've received a phone call from sun trust apologizing giving all our properties back. john: bran dan eich won't speak. >> we feed to disagree. let your joyce be known. john: let your joyce be known john: let your joyce be known whenever someone squelches speech. i was glad to see students speak back when authorities say this.

this country has been great at experimenting individual liberties, the first cou john: this country has been a great snermt individual liberty. the first country to say all its people within you have a right to speak. >> we understand the air is necessary to life.e. in the same way free speech is necessary to liberty. and that should be under by all sides of the debate. john: but it's not. >> isis taking responsibilities for sunday's shooting in texas. >> get off his campus, we don't want you here. >> this business shutting us up. >> you can have a society with free speech and offensive speech where i call you names and you do lewd drawings of me and i say you are a hear it and we hate each other. bust alternative is what they do

in the muslim world.th there is no vigorous debate so there is nothing left to do but kill and bomb and shoot and pub s john: no one thinks america is like the muslim world but we are in danger of becoming like great britain where this pub singer decided to sing this song. >> a person of chinese origin complains to the local police who arrest the guy on a racially aggravated shade crime charge because of the line there were funky chinamen with funkytown. >> i wouldn't choose kung fu fighting as the hill to die on. but i have taking performing kung fu fighting at any stage performances. if funky chinamen in funky the

chinamen is a crime then any word can be a crime. do you know how much power the state will have if we go too far down that road? that's why kung fu fighting is the hill to die on. the british singer was eventually released for lack of evidence. but he shouldn't have been arrested in the first place. >> the solution to all these speech issues is more speech. >> why do the rules after he ply to my free speech? >> you have to have permission through the student development office. john: at modesto college this student was told he can't pass out copies of the constitution. the student fought back and won these students used demanding their right to speak. >> the great advantages of free

speamp, if people can't express themselves you will have a hateful festering so sight than if people say what they believe in. gay rights was an extremely l minority opinion half a stepturive ago. >> one never those when a home oh sexual is about. john: when i was young the government ran psas like this. gaze could not work for the government. they were arrested for making love even in their own home. condemned as evil and sick. >> a sickness that is not visible like smallpox. john: mobs drove alleged gay people out of town.xp >> it's only because you could argue your case that a tiny minority idea sparnldsed and people said i don't really mind it.. it doesn't grow in control freak

so sight. john: speak out is what ended segregation and gave women the vote. >> the only way you can turn a dissident minority idea into a majority idea is if a so sight has the space to think. john: the space to think. that's fighting for. it's worth? >> yes, we know what it's worth. >> can i know what it's worth? >> the man who raised this army was on a mission... >> he was a true historian. he wanted to bring these battles to life. >> but is it a bridge too far for his heirs? >> he left you with a huge responsibility, didn't he? >> it's just too difficult. >> it's kind of interesting that toy soldiers would get their own trust. >> i don't have my own trust, but they got theirs. [ theme music plays ]