estoril at 34. two hours trying to do. neil cavuto, but time is yours. you thank you are a much child is not going to fox news debate. the fallout you hear throughout the is pretty much the same. this would be ridiculous. we're not going to tolerate it, for mother's day and it's a big mistake. fast and furious to those who want room for oxygen that they feel will be back in the room. blake burman with the latest on the reaction to a big no-show. reporter: certainly a lot of reaction on both sides. donald trump, his campaign last night said trump will not be participating in the fox news debate tomorrow night here in des moines, iowa.

will that change? we shall see. for now, trump says he will be a no-show. the next logical question that comes that this is how will this affect the outcome on monday night? the iowa caucus, just five days until that. if you buy scientific polling, that won't have any time to write and because the data will be monday night and the iowa caucuses. i will point you to one figure from the latest fox news poll that did have it released a few days ago. it's about the undecided that we are always talking about islands to make up their minds in the last moments. that is a big piece of the pie here in iowa. 33% of iowa republicans say it is possible they could change their minds between now and monday night and we will see if that happened.

the candidates have been weighing in on of this all day long and on "nightline" yesterday about what to make of donald trump saying he would not be here tomorrow night. they will not be anywhere from attacking to joking. >> it is not about him. it's not about me. it's not about anybody except the american people. >> i think he is afraid to defend his record. he know he can't defend his record and his neil: the voters of iowa. >> outtake donald trump's podium on that stage thursday night. there's an opening. i would be happy to take it. >> the biggest critic is ted cruz. he absolutely blistered trump and iowa last night and on a nationally syndicated talk radio show called him a fragile soul. the people of iowa deserve better. he's running in second in the poll. marco rubio said this is an entertaining sideshow between

tampa and cruz. back to you. neil: you know what is interesting, donald trump is not about me. and they don't want to indicate how this will help them. i kind of admire that in a certain way. blake, thank you very much. the fallout from all of this. the traditional argument would be an kvo begin with you that it could potentially harm donald trump among those undecided voters, presumably two out of three we are told. in iowa he's not showing up. what do you think? >> there's a lot of things that play. donald trump has made one of the first few big mistakes during this campaign because he's been able to project during on the campaign trail. as a result of not getting this way, is sapping away from the debate stage days before voters are still undecided.

this gives ted cruz a huge opportunity to not focus on donald trump and focus on his position and it gives them an opportunity to attack trump without being able to directly respond on the stage. i'm sure it won't affect trump's voters as he said he could do someone in the middle and wouldn't lose voters. i think this does help ted cruz with those people who have not decided who they're going to vote for her. neil: the jury is mixed before the 1980 iowa caucuses, george bush senior went on to win. you ask richard nixon who went on to get elected and reelected president in 68, 72 without a single debate. you say it doesn't hurt you. i guess it is in the time in the moment. what do you think? >> today voters have a lot of chances to get to know the positions of candidates

including direct voter communication methods like twitter and donald trump has been taken advantage to show voters who he is. more than a dozen debates on either side of the aisle. voters are familiar with the candidates in this race. in terms of ditching fox news are saying he will probably just fox news, and is like every other sound that donald trump has polled is going to work to raise. it will energize people who support them because they see it as sticking it to demand, but will also turn off a lot of voters. today we talk about them so he gets the publicity he wanted. neil: you do raise a good point. among the reactions i got today was first of all when paul was happy he was in the main debate. finish you again soon. i'd probably be the same way. do the others presuppose a look

at more time to talk? i looked at the numbers sbm and it is not disproportionately donald trump as you think. they like to go back and forth attacking. he is not getting the majority of the time and not my jars and people. they might be surprised by that. >> by the way, and the debates were amazing and the best in the cycle. back to your question, i think when you do look at the numbers of minutes in terms of minutes of how much time each candidate had, it is actually pretty proportional and equal. the benefit to the other candidate is in the aftermath of the analysis of the debate. the immediate discussion about the debate because he wasn't there. that discussion would focus on what the candidates are offering

and take donald trump out of the equation. i equation. i forgive us to let donald trump isn't it going to be there because i wanted substantive field debate without the distraction of him they are at the other candidate who doesn't seem to be serious about the process driven by him decided not to show up tomorrow. true to one debate is not a candidacy make or not make good when the dust settles, presuming donald trump doesn't attend this debate, i am wondering, where are we? >> we are still divided when you look at a preening -- right-leaning voters. trump may be in the late, but also another category of voters who say no way never would i support this candidate. 20% of caucus goers say they'd rather vote for a democrat, so that shows how divisive the candidates he has been. neil: ladies i'm a thank you both very, very much. a special shout out to katie who promptly pointed out how great the fbi in debate were.

i'm kidding. bernie sanders has shown up at the white house, but i guess that isn't a big deal. he had to walk there. he is a big deal and i know it's not a big spender. he prefers taxpayers to spend. but he walks to the white house. couldn't they get a car for him? anyway, he's meeting with the president one-on-one. but the former secretary of state. chris bedford on the significance of the meeting. >> i think it's going to be a fairly uncomfortable meeting. this is the second time the senator has met with president obama one-on-one. he's been to the white house about 40 times. this is his second one-on-one meeting. late last year president obama said he wasn't going to endorse anybody. in the last few bernie sanders

has crept up on hillary clinton, catching her in iowa. he has done anything that officially endorsed him. interviews save bernie sanders is not like his 2008 campaign. neil: may be, maybe envisioning the the possibility that bernie sanders could be in 2016 what barack obama was in 2008. >> as possible. the meeting has been on the books for a while. specifically when people say this is a repeat of hillary clinton's trouble versus barack obama, he said no. earlier this week campaign staffers from both the barack obama's presidential campaign came out on the record attacking bernie sanders and then hillary clinton is a successor of a third term. i don't think there is much cheap train the two until hillary is out of the race. >> i am sure any sitting president of the republican party hopes that his successor

will continue the policies. some sort -- i'm sure ronald reagan came into sort of continue the reagan mandate. i am sure this bill clinton was just rattle same al gore loses the election he should have won. nevertheless, presidents don't like to see what they have created potentially undone by someone of an opposing party. that could bring the issue to whether the president sees the possibility that bernie sanders is in fact the nominee and he doesn't want bernie sanders to go too far off and not get elected. >> yeah, well over the last couple months bernie sanders has operating with respectful criticism of the president. years ago he was much more vocally critical of president obama. in the psycho he has been more

respectful and done a good job but we want to go further. meanwhile, hillary clinton has been hugging barack obama as closely as she can virtually promising a third obama turn and said she'll continue policies and probably a little more hawkish. he's definitely got a safer bet in terms of electability of moshe gets indicted. also in terms of continuing his policies. neil: and a mushy gets indicted. chris bedford, daily caller. nice having you. iowa, the big debate in iowa tomorrow night. we will have special live coverage of fox news channel during the day on saturday. i will be there as well on sunday. of course to really gear up for things with coverage on caucus day itself on monday, including 8:00 p.m. when i was gets that develop. we will know the decision a lot earlier than 2:30. even then we didn't know for

sure whether rick santorum had one. it wasn't confirmed for days, but we did learn later that he did win. we could. in fact -- we will see. but again, next monday 8:00 p.m. until whenever, live coverage. real quick reminder, a lot of you have the same opportunity to follow the same coverage on fox news. we are waiting something else. we are not expecting a move on interest rates here. the wrapping of a two-day meeting, these guys are headed or where their mind is headed for the remainder of the year. it will be very crucial. stick around.

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anyways, rouhani has already bought 100 airbus jets. we are told by an pieces of artwork while he was in italy. he is in paris right now saying he doesn't see any obstacles for companies seeking to invest in iran, quoting iran is ready for investments. a lot of sanctions lifted that part of the iranians you where they've sworn on bibles, koreans, you name it. not to go nuclear. right now something else we are waiting on today. the federal reserve decision less than two hours, about one hour 43 minutes from now. we are not anticipating any more rate hikes, but we are going to get a sense of where the fed will go. you have people like mark feldstein who was saying, you know, ignore the market. keep raising rates and face what is going on the labor market.

perfect justification. what do you make of that? >> well, the entire world of currency fluctuation to not fit just right now would be a really good time for the fed to keep on hiking rates. neil: don't be sidetracked by tantrum prone markets. do your thing. >> rbi for me to think i should contradict mark feldstein. our two biggest trading partners are canada and china and both are having that amount to cause i currency crisis. china having a full-blown want and canada down to 71 cents against the american dollar. if we keep raising rates, and we will find the currency ratios get further and further out of whack when effect we help drive down oil prices. it is a very volatile time in my opinion on the world economic stage.

we have political insurgency. china is facing a ratcheting political insurgency. i don't see waiting in as a particular -- neil: deep and pretty right on a lot of stuff. they are not inclined. i think they were talking about for rate hikes have a minimum. where do you stand on that debate? >> it would be nice to think these guys are cloistered economists are fed governors who will only monitor economic signals. i think about another thing. we have a u.s. administration that is desperate to keep the music going until next november. if we were to head a big free spot in the road and go into an economics end, it would be disaster for the democrats next fall. you have the u.s. administration that also doesn't want to see this happen, doesn't appear to me who keep on cranking up their

rates. neil: thank you very much. as we wrap up, we learn about the super bowl which is apparently -- anyway, i told you yesterday the automakers are opting out of advertising for the big game. it costs a lot of money and do they get bang for the buck. amazon just announced it will be advertising for the first time it will be an ad featuring alec baldwin. there is a homerun is a home run. former nfl quarterback dan marino and the ad will spotlight a massage at the speaker. that is the voice-activated guyot. so that is something to look forward to. i wanted to share that with you. we have a lot more after this.

neil: we always hear talks, but different type of terror

attacks, not only those we dodged with the intent on killing 30 or more people. when it comes to our power grid to just getting knocked out, knocks off and maybe for a while. something similar in israel. it could've been a lot worse. liz mcdonald on that in the fears of what happens. >> that is right. getting an update on what happened to the israeli authority. several computers were paralyzed by a hack involving now where that came into the system via what are called phishing e-mails. the computers according to the energy in israel were shut down and the regulatory oversight offices affect certain regional authorities. it did not look like it affected the power grid. it did not look like a widespread outage similar to what happened in the ukraine. the concern is now where can be sent via e-mails and the now

where could we loaded, for example into documents attached to the females come utility insiders and could infect the system. there's two things happening. i fear the power grids could be shut down of course. or things like personal identity theft for information is stolen from the customers to commit fraud. look at the numbers coming in from the department of homeland security. 331 hacks, one every four days right now and the energy system in the united states is the primary target for hacks more than the banks. back to you, neil. neil: that is pretty scary stuff. you knock that out. a great deal of damage. cybersecurity expert right here paying very close attention to this sort of thing. as lies we've been chatting over the years, something like that here we have a very vulnerable grid structure for that. we saw into that four or five years ago in the new york

metropolitan area. not for good. >> that happened in ohio. go ahead. >> people looking for an action movie but just in want to see things happening really fast. this is more like a scene out of austin powers where it takes five minutes for the steamroller to approach. people lose the sense of urgency because it doesn't happen right away. when users 80,000 homes, you are attacking israel. we are probably the most honorable infrastructure right now because we have not just hundreds of thousands, millions of homes relied on the grid. if they don't take this seriously camilla get a cascading series of event and they will hit during the peak time or power usage is that because people are freezing out a record cold. neil: morgan come you always indulge my idiotic questions. but maybe again. they say we have backups upon

backups upon backups. a lot of shopping centers and bags with generators. in other words, protected in the event someone or something bad happens on the grade you say. >> i'm sure they said that when new york lost power. we have backups. we are okay. that is like saying it is just a flesh wound. i'll be alright. the point is what are we doing to stop the attacks in the first place. depending on the timing, it is not just the fact you have backups. it impacts on public safety services come online worsening, half of those. how long can somebody operate during the y2k but we ask people when is the last time he tested these? the big gaffe is when is the last time he tested it and how long can you operate a something happens? the vast majority of people don't know. they don't know how it works. neil: thank you.

that was a polite way of saying neil, that was one of the dumbest questions. very good having you. take a peek at the dow right now. it is odd with oil picking back up after it had been down. a lot of the interest in oil has to do with we have a little bit more -- not a lot more, but a little bit more oil than we thought we did, but we are not treating it down as much of the gas firm. it is a mixed breed on energy. anything that hints a little bit more supply than earlier thought is some thing that gives people the idea for my supply. that is good. i lock, stock that. you've are dear to great deal on this about apple and its disappointing earnings.

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free could take apple or boeing out of the forecast today. just to focus on apple. that is what launches us into our sector report on technology today. iphone sales compared / share versus a year before, what you see is a number. neil mentioned before the last break, a decline of 25%. sales not good for apple. we have more technology earnings to come. facebook and ebay will both be reporting this afternoon. huge tech companies. what they have to say about their profits going forward. then it is al a baba. some call it the amazon of china. i do not think anybody called cause a sally bob of the united states, but i just did. forecasts are the key. amazon will be really interesting to watch.

you mentioned the super bowl ads earlier. the stocks went up huge. i guess like apple, a lot of expectations. neil: cannot wait for that game, buddy. probably joining connell in his man cave. following apple extremely closely. there are so many different parts to that story. one of the things that was surprising is pretty much all aspects of the business have at least slowed. not only iphones, but ipad sales. lowest level in five years. i guess, there is a concern. apple safari browsing advisors crashing. pretty much worldwide.

enough already. >> it was definitely a tough learning. talking about technically record earnings for them. slightly higher than last year across the board did the big story was the guidance. iphones barely grew. in the march quarter, they will decline. suddenly, the expectation would be using more of that later this year as well. definitely be a story that we are not used to hearing from apple. they have been declining for a couple of years. they have been massive for apple's growth. got back into double digit growth. neil: what if we are doing with our devices what we stop doing with rop sees. we had the pentiums. an upgrade. people finally had a point.

enough with this. we will keep what we have. we will not follow the latest. maybe, that it is now translated to devices. yeah, you may miss out on a sharper camera with war megapixels, you may miss out on some other bells and whistles. for now, this is okay. >> you are absolutely right. that is a big part of what is happening here. in the u.s. in particular. you get a new phone every two years. we play for these plans on a monthly basis. there is no longer an incentive for the carrier to push you to a great kid the phones are getting better and better. that happened with ipods where the ipad basically aren't selling. people that have them are very

happy with them. it is starting to happen now with iphones as well. people just do not feel the need as they had in the past. >> thank you very, very much. a quick look at the white house. still meeting with the president of the united states. whether you comes out to talk to anyone. if follows criticism for many in the senators can't. favoring hillary clinton. this democratic race of the presidential nomination. a little late for bernie sanders. maybe this is a little wound repairing. hard to say. also, we are awaiting the fed statement that is due out in about an hour and a half. i have it right here. [laughter]

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>> you know, donald is a fragile man. his hair may stand on and. he may engage in a one-on-one debate with the any time between now and the i love caucuses. neil: not participating in the fox news debate as things stand right now. they never said a bad word out of anybody.

it has quickly degenerated. ted cruz on what this may mean for a candidate. >> ted cruz did not speak ill of donald trump until blood was john on him first. on january 6, mr. trump decided he would launch into a conspiracy theorist about him being ineligible. >> there was that off mike comment where ted cruz was talking about the legitimacy of a child candidacy. right now they are fighting. i want to get past that. what happens now? is this a moment for ted cruz to shine? >> i think that that is exactly the way senator cruz should play tomorrow night at the debate.

the probe group you and pro- christi throw christie people are saying it is a problem for ted cruz because now they will gang up on him. they will probably ask them to weigh in on what they think on the missing candidate. you should explain your attacks planned. you should question why jeb bush and donald trump scored a 25% for example. a great opportunity to show philosophical contracts. it is personal. it is quite nasty. is he a real conservative? will he negotiate and deal too much in washington. i think that you do not really fund with personal attacks. you want to respond with contrast. the voters have a reasonable

expectation. >> one man's personal attack. another man's personal argument. i am leaving aside whether it is a natural born citizen. i do not think that it is going anywhere. i could be wrong. donald trump has not been the only one to say senator mccain has. bob dole has. his likability on the hill is not great. that could get in the way of getting stuff done. >> the reason people do not like him in washington -- he thinks other senators should do the same. there is not a senator in washington that did not run on replacing obamacare.

only one guy stood in front of the senator trying to keep obamacare. when paul is running for the same office as senator cruz. has never been mistaken. the two-man race now that everyone is talking about. trump versus cruz. mccain, they got visible returns among the female voters. neil: let me ask you about rand paul. the poor other fellows in women that are not. he does not really care about them. if they sound ungrateful on the campaign trail, it does not sit well with voters. i do not think that it was a great move for rand paul.

the same thing goes for mister trump. i believe it is a very healthy component. voters cannot afford to go meet these candidates in person. this is their opportunity. get the same chance you and i have two see what these candidates would do. neil: great stuff. always good seeing you. neil: does it hurt him in iowa. a guy very influential in putting ted cruz on top of the polls. what he makes of this latest turn in this romance drama gone sour. my special guest on your world. just getting wind of how the fbi just prevented what could have been a horrific mass shooting. how they discovered it and what

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neil: more on the arrest of that no locking man. a 23-year-old.

he is now facing federal charges. a mass shooting alleged to have purchased two machine guns. it was not his first plan. the fbi was originally tipped off to the sky. he wanted to go to israel and attack soldiers there. he abandoned that land. he did not abandon his most recent plan. he and that inform it went as far as going to a gun range to practice. they were very serious. as for the motive, i am telling you, if it is executed, it will be known all over the world. they will be proud of us. you want to inspire more attacks if he was able to go through with this.

he was arrested on monday. buying those two guns from the federal agents. >> do we know whether he thought he would die in the attack? >> i just did not see it. he said he had plans to kill 30 people. very, very serious about that. they went through with a product this round. even taking a look at the temples. they were very serious about carrying out the attack. >> thank you very much, but he. >> i say it every day. we have got to do a lot better to present the middle class and working families.

on the leadership with president obama and vice president biden. we discussed this morning, a number of issues. foreign-policy issues. a little bit of politics. i thought it was a very positive meeting. everybody knows. a very tough campaign in iowa. iowa campaign. one word in that is turn up. we are feeling really good about where we are. a large voter turnout. i wish we could, but i do not think we can.

we will fight in new hampshire as hard as we can. i am thinking we have a good chance. i think we will do a lot, lot better. we were just in minnesota yesterday. we had 6000 people out in duluth. we are feeling pretty good. i think the american people, working people, young people want to see real movement in this country. i think they sent it well in iowa vice president biden has

tried to do. i know there was some discussion the other day about a political interview. i do not believe that it all. i don't think he and the vice president have try to be fair. i expect they will continue to do that. >> was there any sort of disagreement? >> look. i think everybody knows that for the last seven years, before that, barack obama, when he was the united states senator was kind enough to come to vermont and campaign for me. i have never forgotten that. in 2008, i did my best to see that he would be elected president. it is also no secret that we

have this case with a democratic society. we have differences of opinion. i was on the floor of the senate for eight and a half hours and disagreement over taxes. by and large, over the last seven years, i have stood by his side where he has taken on unprecedented republican and trying to do the right thing for the american people. getting those updated on some of the current issues. how we most effectively do with isis is a testament of how iran.

>> was there anybody else in the meantime? >> how would you tackle this? >> frankly, we did talk about this. as you all know, i voted against that is a major point of difference between secretary clinton and myself. we came to a different conclusion. i went to too many funerals of wonderful young people. i am very happy to tell you in the last few years i have not gone to funerals of young men in our military. what the president is trying to do is the right name.

what he is trying to do is keep our young men and women in the military out of a perpetual war in the middle east. what he is trying to do and what i will try to do is put together a coalition of the major powers with the muslim people on the ground. muslim nations. muslim troops. you are king recently reminded us, this is a war for the soul of islam against people like isis and their barbarity that has hijacked that religion. at the end of the day, it must be the muslim people and their military to destroy isis with the support of the major powers in the country. i think that is what the president is trying to do. >> meeting with the president of

the united states. this comes at a time where there has been some criticism. maybe not from the senator himself. senator sanders, preferring to the president. going out of their way. not showing any favoritism here. prior to some polls that have really shown bernie sanders running away with this thing. not only in new hampshire are, but in iowa. the president now potentially cutting his paces in what seems to be an unlikely scenario. bernie sanders actually get this nomination. four rally on all of these developments. very gentlemanly about it. his differences with the president on this. a host of other issues including

tax hikes that he thought should have gone even further. by and large agreeing with this president. trying to apply it to the campaign. the president is still very popular with the base. >> there is so much going on in the country, neil, in terms of jobs in the economy. concerned about how obama has been governing since he has been in office. that is a very interesting aspect. i am sure that camp is questioning what conversations they had and what bernie was trying to gain at the white house. time will tell what played out with this meeting. bernie sanders, he has gained a lot of ground on hillary

clinton. i do not think that they expect that. >> whether you agree or disagree, a pretty straightforward on this guy. you may not like the idea that he wants to raise taxes on the rich. would not see it as a fox news alert. he is quite open. he expressed this week a tax on the middle class. the caveat being they will give much more than that. very straightforward about that. bat is something that is endearing him. and by the voters that normally find, you know, politicians to be forever changing. >> you are right on that. a lot of her supporters are questioning the woman on a regular basis. she is not trustworthy.

you mention the word trust in terms of bernie sanders. he is a straight shooter, just as you mentioned. i do not agree with the policies. i do not agree with the rate he wants to tax individuals in america. a transfer of money. >> he is still letting you keep 10% of your money. >> you may have heard donald trump is skipping a certain fox news presidential debate. he is still planning to stick to that. we have enough cases where he comes back to bite them. one is ronald reagan. a pre-iowa debate with george bush sr. at the time. going on to win the iowa caucuses. many pagan that to ronald reagan.

not doing that debate. what do you think? >> his campaign manager said we will run a rose garden ceremony. a rose garden campaign. that is the reason they did not debate in iowa in 1980. ronald reagan said, oh, you cannot run a rose garden parade if you do not have a rose garden. he wiped out george bush at a very classic confrontation. as a result of that, he won new hampshire higher. may very well have ran the primary. >> you are quite right on that.

>> some thought that that was already telegraphed. richard nixon. 1960. never debated again, at least on a national stage. running for reelection. he did okay. what do you think of that? >> well, he did. running in 1972. 1968, the last thing he wanted to do was get himself into a situation in a very close race. very successfully was able to fend off the democratic request for the debate. you will see that gerri ford lost a very critic zero-point against jimmy carter.

1980 and 1984. a very critical debate. against jimmy carter. i think it depends. we are talking about six or eight candidates on a stage. not having the same impact. a few debates. not just this one. you may very well be hurt. not to the extent he would have been. he is sort of well known these days. >> when you say hurt in iowa. >> yes. yes. you have a close race.

any kind of a close race, not doing something like this could very well shift one or two points. that could be something. neil: professor, you are an encyclopedia. great job. thank you. we will see what happens. who benefits in that giant absence of oxygen. the consensus seems to be, for now, ted cruz could pick up from nap. you argue. not just ted cruz. explain. >> iowans, in particular, they are like a beautiful woman. trump saying, you know, i am not going to be part of the debate. i will not focus so much on iowa. particularly, those willing to play the iowa games. neil: i am thinking these

candidates are trying to reach oxygen on their own. marco rubio comes to mind. what do you think of him? >> despite being favored by the elites. i can imagine rubio getting out there again. saying the right thing. you go out to iowa and you say ethanol is kind of great. the american farmer is the core of our country. people say that they are very strategic. maybe it will benefit him. >> we do have a rubio packer with us. we are looking at all of this very closely. you know, i always think candidates are trying to break your way but all here. your candidate has given the best job of doing that. arguing with that in new

hampshire higher. i am sure john kasich will argue that. this is a chance for rubio to do that in iowa. is that still doable? does it help that cause? what do you think. >> donald trump leaves a void on the stage. they will have an empty podium that will look bad for donald did crews will try to take advantage of that. rubio is not going to win iowa. he will come in strong third. neil: what if it goes the other way around? donald trump still wins iowa. if you were to pull this out and then go on to win new hampshire are, then what?

>> it will be very difficult to beat him. the momentum is going to be there. i think that ted cruz has a stronger operation on the ground. the polling is underperforming for him. polls have been so wrong for so long. neil: real quickly. does not win iowa. donald trump does. going on to win new hampshire higher. >> we can say that trump successfully took a page out of ran paul's label. i am better than that. this is trump saying that about the main stage today. you guys can shout all you want. maybe people won't buy it.

>> you mentioned rand paul. perfectly happy. i kind of admire that. all right. thank you both very, very much. we told you about bernie sanders meeting with the president of the united states. some in the sanders camp are sensing this out of the white house. bernie sanders. he does not see any favoritism going back and forth one way or the other. a straight shooter like bernie sanders. known to once again just play that political gain out. be respectful and move on. more after this. ♪

>> we have bill gavitt who was nice enough to stick around. a concern terror and death connell mcshane reported, a milky -- the lucky man. do they look enough?

enough to tip the scales about who will be more aggressive dealing with homegrown terror? >> as much chatter about that as there are other subject matters. what we have to be very concerned about is keeping that antenna up with all federal agencies. local agencies. to ensure that anything that does come up to be self radicalized individuals come on the grid so that something can be done about it. there is no better target than one of the candidates. that would be an absolute wonderful target. >> one thing i found curious is the authorities did this. they set it up. he was purchasing weapons. detailing his plan. where do you draw the line on

that? the guy may get out and do what you thought. you made it happen. >> anything that he bought. the weapons that he bought our nonfunctional weapons. they will .work for this individual. the problem of somebody getting hurt out of this is not proximate. p 15 what about the prospect that there are many more like this guy that can be easily be brought out of the work. probably very little. >> you just put your finger on the horror button. those are the things that keep everyone awake at night. the problem of indication of not wanting to look at what people

are saying and saying to each other. >> thank you. a former fbi in new york assistant director. bill gavitt. bernie sanders out of the white house. telling the press that everything is okay. take a look. >> 800,000 jobs a month. a $1.4 trillion deficit. by the way, sometimes we forget our financial system was on the verge of collapse. >> bernie sanders complementing the president. what he did to take over of what they have done since. officially from barack obama. spreading to him as hillary clinton has tried. >> i think if you look back at what has happened over these last more than seven years.

the slowest recovery since world war ii. people's incomes are not growing. you believe in the individual and free enterprise. he is 100% supersize government. that is what you are hearing from him. >> he is consistent. you may dow that you 90%. >> he says i'll have to go back to the middle class. the benefit will be you will get more bang for the buck. i cannot pay for all of this. >> i tip my hat to him on the honesty part. he has been consistent. >> that is what the base likes. >> how many of these politicians promised and said how they were going to pay for it. whatever we do, it will cost money.

some painful decisions. you know what, this guy comes out and says he will do it. that is why millennial's like it. they do not see themselves paying it. it will be an extra $1.60 a week. a lot of people know i am not a fan. >> it will only be about 54 points. neil: you are not feeling the burn. dagen: i read this plan. if frightened the bejeebers out of me. i think any republican can beat him. i accidentally turned on the view yesterday. >> when the show was on? >> no, it's not.

[laughter] we will get more. i want to live in that land of life. >> enjoy it while you can. it will be short-lived. >> wants to tax investment dividends. >> excuse me? i have paid plenty. i get people urinating in front of my apartment building every single day. yay democrats. you want to talk about trump? >> no. [laughter] we are about 40 minutes away from the federal reserve releasing a statement. i'm not supposed to tell you what it is. i am just saying, today against

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>> stocks are kind of mixed right now. i want to focus on interest rates. still lower than they were. the federal reserve has no control over it. before the fed hiked. think about that. mortgage rates are under 4%. lower than a lot of them before the federal reserve hiked. we have housing data to confirm the trend. 3.98%. we have been seeing single-family home sales jumping. we have an annual rate of a 10 month high. mortgage applications.

existing home sales. a million dollar listing. los angeles star. what is going on? the markets may be skittish. it appears for the time being, what is going on? >> yeah, i mean, the residential high-end market, especially in los angeles, is on fire. usually the indicator of what will happen for the rest of that year. we have had some incredible sales for the first few weeks. it is an indicator that we will have another great week. up 6% from november. just this beginning first two-three weeks has are ready been to 25 million-dollar jails. a home that i sold for

8 million. two months ago. >> i know the listings are more routine band i'll swear. you'll laugh when i tell you this. the 62 transactions that i did last year, two of them had mortgages. neil: are you kidding me? they just buy. >> it makes my life easier. is it indicative of what is going on. you are here. in your neck of the words.

there is no pain. elsewhere, there is pain. >> i just looked at the report from yesterday. all of the major cities across the united states are up. >> they are not up for what you are seeing on your end? >> no. i am talking about those kinds of cities. the real estate market, overall, everything is still up. >> some of them got back to where they were in 2006. it worries some that are bearish. does it worry that it has gotten too far too fast? looking at another crisis. >> no.

i do not think that that was happen. eventually, things will soften. they always soften. it does not mean we will have an entire crash like last time. you cannot even compare. things are much more stricter there may have been. neil: what would indicate that more of them are looking to finance? no. i see the numbers drop. there's always there is always somebody saying we are already seeing it softening. people like to say that because they are tired of paying high prices. if enough people say that, they will start to believe it. there is always somebody who wants to ruin the party. it is so depressing. prices are up.

>> someone who deals with these people. obviously overstressed. when a client comes in and says i have to go back to my lender, do you say stuff like you are a total loser or what? >> only if there are three other people in position behind him. the only people in place, no. >> i did not take you would. million dollar listing los angeles. good seeing you again. >> always. >> now we have the attention on this debate. minus donald trump. who, by the way, pays for cash for everything. who do you think the remaining candidates are setting their lights on? what if i told you it was not donald trump. these two guys. these two florida guys. they are going after each other.

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neil: oil moves around a little bit. stocks move around a little bit but in lockstep with each other. jeff flock telegraphing a -- with latest in illinois where that goes. jeff? reporter: look at all the oil in

storage behind me there, neil. that is what the news was today. you would have thought it would have driven oil down. take a look at the intraday chart. would you have thought when the government came out with its number on oil stockpiles, that was about 11:30, would you have seen a drop off in oil but you didn't. why? even though the street was expecting a little over three million extra barrels in storage, yesterday the american petroleum council said it would be closer to 11 million. when the government said it was eight million, oil took that as a positive. so we are where we are right now. a lot of people have been afraid we'll run out of places to store oil because of this glut out there. but i'll tell you oil bears or i should say bulls, would make this point, like our friend phil flynn. he points out even owe the eia said we're almost 500 million barrels in storage which would be a record not seen in 80 years, in terms of the amount, it is still only, given

the fact we consume about 20 million barrels a day, that is what, 24 days worth of supply. if you get somehow a cut in production from folks over at opec or wherever, things could flip around fairly quickly. that is why phil flynn is an oil bull. that is where he are today. bulls are running. neil: yeah they are, jeff. to that point, united arab emirates and kuwait, unlike saudi arabia they would try to balance things out even with the new iranian oil coming on, they might have adjustments of their own. whether that hints of a fight or tiff in the opec community is anybody's guess. they will do their darnedest to make sure they control their prices even though some of this has gotten out of their own hands. all right. are we ready to report this update, guys? okay. we're getting news now of potential credit card breach over at wendy's. "usa today" reporting that wendy's is investigating what it

calls unusual activity related to cards used in some, i stress some of its restaurants. launching the investigation after being alerted this month by the payments industry to possible fraudulent charges being made elsewhere after payment cards were legitimately used at some restaurants. what that means is, someone or some entity got their hands on this credit card data. and continued using it from beyond the original purchase purposes by the original honest user. that is what they call a credit card breach. and if that is the case, the only question is how big, how widespread and how many. in the retail industry is almost routine. we've seen it at target. we've seen other cases at walmart. we've seen it throughout the banking industry. now, even fast-food. we'll keep you posted on that. now take a look at this. >> what did marco rubio do? he put $22,000 in personal

expenses on a republican party credit card. rubio's bad judgment caused a scandal. for five years rubio refused to release the credit card records. neil: mark toronto looking at all of that on jeb looking at rubio. favorite sons of florida going after each other. it is gladiator battle, who will win this one? what do you think, mark. >> very interesting, neil. if you look at strategy for those candidates they have to climb their way to the top. you have two-man race between trump and cruz, there is this subcontext, subrace going on. because you you've got gold and silver but really the next medal is one they're going for. if they show themselves competitive in in the first few states even in third position they have a chance to do well long term. if you're jeb bush, coming fourth or fifth in most polls, who do you have to take out, the nextfy up, rubio? it has gotten very ugly.

why? negative ads work when you compete against the candidate for same type of voters. neil: argument goes jeb bush needs some sort of hail mary pass to beat marco rubio. to return to the prohibitive favorite he was a year ago, at least to prohibitive mainstream player. what do you think are the odds? >> correct. he is in a very bad place, but, you know it is not time yet, if i were advising him yet, it is not time yet for hail mary pass, what you have to have is hurry-up offense, no-huddle offense what we've seen with the negative ads attacking rubio. the party apparatus, guys in the beltway, complaining about bush spending money against rubio. he spent five million dollars against trump, it doesn't work or help him. he is spending $20 million against rubio. the party guys are upset he is

not focusing attacks on trump. reality he shouldn't attack trump, it didn't help. he has to attack rubio if he has any chance at all. one advantage he has a lot of money in his super-pac. there are a lot of primary states lie ahead. if he can show a third place finnish a few states he may have a chance. he will hope for one of the top guys to stumble. neil: by the way, not as if all those other guys pacs are not running similar ads on each other, rubio, christie. >> exactly, exactly. neil: thanks, buddy, i appreciate it. i don't know if you've been following the arabian president buying anything in sight. i don't know what is more offensive. my people covering artwork and nude statues to placate him. really? i know the italian word for this. i can't even repeat it. after this.

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>> time for your fox business brief. it has been one of those days where oil is moving up and stocks are kind of following. we see gains in oil. we see stocks mixed. if anything, off the lows that we had moved up on these oil reports earlier. you know that russia, opec maybe are discussing possible output cuts. now the market is mixed once again. comes ahead of the fed statement

which is what we're all preparing for now. get that in a few minutes and dow intraday treading water there to some degree. what is funny what is happening in the market today, the big story stocks are moving significantly lower even though the market is all but flat. for example, you have a nice gain for the dow if you took apple and boeing out of the average. boeing down by almost 10 bucks. gave us a future commercial jets and apple, first sales decline in 13 years. we'll see what the global economy and fed says anything about that. we're back in a moment.

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at business.ny.gov neil: said it before the iranian president taking a european tour and suddenly greeted like a rock star. this is the president of the iran that used to call western civilization that used to call it embodiment of satan and evil. italy covering up nude statues trying not to offend him and getting money from him. doing the same in france. france i can't figure out but italy? really? thinking of that italian expression i know my gapped mother would say. [speaking italian] which essentially means, at least if i clean it up, oh, lord, what nonsense. i just have to relay that. because i cleaned it up for you. you will never know, will you.

former dep tear secretary of defense, our ambassador paul wolfowitz. on what this means. in any language that is little bit repulsive. because they are all wining and dining him and in the case of europe scoring huge airbus deals with him. spending money like crazy. most popular guy in town. what do you make of this? >> pretty obvious. his message, iran is open for business. we have billions of dollars we can spend. i think every company in europe is hungry for that business. tells you something about the ridiculous talk about sanctions snapping back. once all those business deals are in place, and countries have huge economic stakes in the relationship with iran, they will also say, if you try to touch anything that was a contract that was negotiated before whatever it was that happened. i think we're really down a path with iran that will be very hard to get out of. neil: when the pope gets into

this, i don't think he is a political machiavellian character, may be innocent, in that he welcomes, you know, talking to those who might be rogue dictators or trying to talk peace as he did with fidel castro but does he risk being used putting a sheen on a guy who is not a nice guy from a country who doesn't have the nicest of reputations? >> if you look what they actually do at home, it's a good deal worse than the image he is projecting here in europe. neil: right. >> i think by giving him that sort of legitimacy it really does continue to encourage bad behavior. we got a long, long record of the west looking at dictators and projecting on them the wishes that we would like to have. of course the pope is interested in promoting peace. who wouldn't be but i think iranians have a very different agenda. we've seen that recently in the persian gulf. it is very worrisome.

neil: you mentioned a profound point right at outset i didn't even think of, ambassador. when europeans are locked into these kind of deals, they don't want to risk undoing them. so they be loathe probably to revisit sanctions of any sort that would leave just the united states and even our interests in such activity, at least judging from the white house, is getting to be tepid. so where are we going here? >> you know, back, i don't know how long ago, there was an incident in germany when iranian agents assassinated a couple of kurdish-iranian opposition people in a cafe, i think it was called mikonos in berlin. it was clear in the record that the german government was not to pursue the case because it would disrupt the economic relationship with iran. this was murder in the city of berlin. fortunately one german prosecutor was aggressive enough to pursue it and the truth came out. you will see it in england. no one wants to touch england even though it is pretty clear

he assassinated an opponent of his london in most hideous way or had him sass he nated. neil: when you're kind of economically joined at the hip you're less inclined to hit the other guy in the fannie, right? >> that's true. that the is one reason we need to try to do the best we can to restrain the american relationship. obviously if iran were to really change its wife i don't remember that's different story. we should wait until they have, not preempt it. neil: well-put. ambassador, always good seeing you. >> nice to see you. neil: ambassador wolfowitz. just a point on the french here, which is shining star i think on that, when the iranian president went there, unlike italians, ashamed to say this about my mother people here, unlike the italians, the french kept their statues nude.rn on gay paris.

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neil: apparently there is this rule, not a law, if you have an embargo -- [inaudible]. you can't talk about it until the fed statement release. because embargoed until 2:00 p.m. just eight minutes from now. but what's few minutes among friends? no, i don't know. >> that is your lunch order. neil: exactly. exactly. >> that is -- [inaudible] >> i was going to say the opposite. neil: don't go -- you know, you know, we're starting. i want to feel the love. all right. charles here, connell here. dagen back with us. despite my thoughts.

fed i don't think will hike today. >> no. neil: but they are going to tell graph the market hope as maybe a slow down posture towards future rates. what do you think? >> maybe if they're concerned about the market volatility, if the fed talks about that at all. concerned about impact of rising dollar, dollar is pretty benign this year. rising dollar ahead of that. rising dollar does essentially what a fed interest rate increase. neil: talk about the dollar because right first off. >> what did you ask me to talk about, bucok? >> not what you talked about earlier. >> give you mid-afternoon snack recommendations. neil: why don't you go back to watching ellen or whatever you watch. >> did she call you bucko. neil: mr. bucko to you. >> lower oil prices keep us out of recession. thank you. neil: isn't that what martin feldstein was saying, former top

economic advisor, now professor, saying that they do not pay attention to these markets. follow that labor market. you're right to keep hiking. >> right. they have to give themselves that option. this is creative writing exercise for them to basically say, hey, listen we reserve the right to raise rates rates at march meeting. neil: why can't they do that? >> i know we have a lot of issues. some of them are overseas. some are here. we understand that. we're on top of it. we'll keep eye on things. that is basically what happens. that is what they want to say. neil: much more complicated. >> have one day meeting, not tell us anything. you figure it out. to your point -- neil: i don't know if this provides much more clarity anyway. >> here is the thing, the problem we have too many professors involved in this to begin with. the fact of matter if wall street doesn't hear some sort of acknowledgement from janet yellen this is not strong

economy higher interest rates suggest, markets are in a lot of trouble. neil: if she dials it back or cuts back on number of hikes that we're expecting wouldn't panic be read into that. >> it is possible. you're in a very tricky market situation where it is hard to know where the market is volatile, how it would react. this is kind of normal, even one interest rate hike where you have so much stimulus and so much risk-taking encouraged by the fed and other central banks. you hike one, a mob the fed can't control. >> for everyone says the fed articulated four more rate hikes. everyone is thinking hey, this looks like a huge mistake. yellen you have to figure out a way to dial that back. >> that was written in pencil. >> has to figure out a way to dial it back. somehow today she must articulate, i am saying see what is going on. atlanta fed, fourth quarter would be 2%. down to .8 of a percent.

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neil: we are getting very, very close. trish regan, going to you. everyone is hoping to provide a little more clarity for the rest of the gear. can they do that? trish: that is a good question. we do not have any clarity right now. any indication of what they may do next. we are going to be all over it. neil, thank you very much. donald trump is not going to the debate because he does not like megan kelly. i am trish regan. accusing fox news of playing games. fox news says, you know what, a candidate cannot pick date the moderators were the questions.

for the first time in nearly a decade. saying the economy was on better footing. what a difference six weeks makes. the markets have plunged. oil prices have gone to record lows. peter barnes. tell us what you've got. >> no change in interest rates, as expected here at acknowledging the turbulence in global financial markets. their possible impact on the u.s. economy. the key sentence in today's policy statement is the feds say it is closely monitoring global economic and financial developments and is assessing their implementations for the labor market, inflation and the balance of risks for an economic outlook. the fed is restoring language. there was also turbulence in global financial markets.