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gender biased language and instead of looking at example, a computer program flagged founding fathers. lou: i ran out of time, thanks for being with us, and join us . good night from new york. kennedy: and hello to you. i'm watching two frustrated curmudgeons that launched out of new hampshire into a new phase of the election. bernie sanders and donald trump have won, so what does this say about similarities and the strange path ahead? here's a bit of bernie's unending victory speech from last night. >> because of a huge voter turnout, and i say huge, we won, because the energy, and the excitement that the
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democratic party will need to succeed in november. [cheers] . kennedy: he harnessed the power of the sun and the ride on the back of a magical unicorn to certain victory. not to be outdone, here is a crimson and irascible nor'easter. >> what do we want want to thank, right? we want to thank the people new hampshire, right? because i'm here a lot, and it's so beautiful, and i love it so much, and i love the people, and i said i actually think they like me a lot. kennedy: so humble. so what does the dual victory say about the establishment? these are cranky outsiders who want to throw a dewey cogin the d.c. machine, they want universal health care, you know the inefficient deadly kind that killed thousands of veterans but don't want to stop there. mass deportations, free
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college, lavish infrastructure projects, eminent domain. beautiful walls fully funded by the mexican government. 77% tax rates on the wealthiest americans, hard to know where bernie ends and donald begins in the tangled web, they are two sides of the rusty coin obama discarded in the putrid wishing well of change. the campaigns is explicit repudiation of the obama administration. they are running on populist and virulent stream of anti-establishmentism and there is nothing more establishment than the administration of a fading two term president. that's the point of a second term, to establish the establishment and ensure whoever moves into the oval office next doesn't soil the legacy that clearly by all accounts especially of these two extreme campaigns failed utterly. all right on the show tonight can, bernie sanders win the democratic nomination? rapper killer mike thinks so, he's going to join me to explain why he is supporting bernie and who should
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libertarians rally around? cruz? trump? sanders? none of the above? nick gillespie has a surprising take. people are scared of isis and think trump is the answer. seriously? colonel ralph peters does not necessarily agree. i'm glad you are here to hash it all out. i am kennedy. . kennedy: and donald trump seized new hampshire after defeat in iowa. so will he stay the course in south carolina? let's ask the party panel is carly shimkus, fox news headline 24-7 host on sirius xm channel 115. kmele foster is a freethinker and media mogul and dagen mcdowell, you know her from fox business network. i love when she talks dirty about crude oil. [ laughter ] >> it's the best, when you
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launch into data and figures, she's so smart. >> black gold. kennedy: black gold! that keeps you in the market and smooth. with that accent. >> makes my legs shiny. kennedy: it does, dork. carly, i want to ask you, when does a donald trump nomination become a foregone conclusion? >> well, i think that unless the candidates don't rally among each other and attack him, he has a very clear shot to the candidacy. so far, nobody wants to touch him, and jeb bush said his next challenge is to beat kasich and rubio, if they don't rally together and attack donald trump which they need to do, then handing him the win. kennedy: so kmele, i just said it, they are both very similar to each other. they won by huge margins. >> yeah. kennedy: huge, if your life depended on it and had to choose between sanders and trump, who would you choose? >> if i had to choose? i can't make that without
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giving you a 20 minute dissertation, quantifying everything. kennedy: you don't have to quantify anything. >> i have to because i cannot choose between these people. reality is the field virtual different in many ways, bernie sanders may be a little less likely to drag us into another unnecessary conflict in a far off place. all of them are going to spend lots and lots of money, grow government in obnoxious ways, bernie might not get anything through congress, the worst, worst, worst idea. >> i don't want to pay for generations of kids to learn how to be left-wing liberals in college. >> already doing that. >> we aren't pay for it as much as bernie sanders wants us to. >> the fact of the matter is we're probably going to continue to subsidize higher education in this country to a tune of a lot of friggin money
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which will drive up the cost of care. >> why it's so expensive now. >> the fact of the matter is we have a heck of a lot of money handed out to state governments that give away stuff for free, it doesn't work out particularly well and doubling down doesn't make it better. kennedy: the various pet projects are the details, the structuralism is essentially the same. it's expanding government to supposedly make things better, but what is so shocking to me as we've seen the expansion of government. we've seen more taxes, more regulation, we've seen more intrusion and two-thirds of americans say we are on the wrong track. that's according to a cnn poll. a majority of americans don't trust government. why on earth would we throw more government at the problem which has been created by governments? >> you know what? i don't know. have you donald trump in the lead in the republican polls and he wants infrastructure spending, wants to build a wall and wants to pour vast amounts of money into defense. kennedy: yeah.
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>> that is more government. bernie sanders wants somebody else to pay for everything for everybody else and the math doesn't make sense. i tell you one thing about the south, being from the south, talking about south carolina. we can get mean if we need to, that's the politics of south carolina, with the tip of the hat to the great political consultant lee atwater and hand you a glass of sweet tea, and as you tip it back, we'll cut you there. i cannot wait to see how it's going play out. if it's getting dirty, dirty in south carolina. kennedy: dirty south, you heard it first. >> a new drink. kennedy: let's go back to the northeast via midwest. john kasich came in second after months of low national polling will the victory give his campaign a second life. and then jeb slight surge keep him in the race? i will ask you, is jeb land considering last night a victory? >> i don't think you can count out jeb bush. he hit his stride. he did well on saturday during the debate.
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pretty well in new hampshire. if he does well, i think he's going to go far, and finally starting to attack donald trump, and you got feel good for him, he's been riding the struggle so hard. i feel like that's when he's at his weakest when he goes after trump. kennedy: insincere attacks. >> starting to do it successfully. we hit that with eminent domain. he sent out a tweet this week where he called donald trump a liar, a loser and whiner, things we never saw before, and it was successful. i feel he's getting the confidence back that donald trump sucked from him. kennedy: he had a better counterattack at saturday night's debate, and the crowd started shushing him and gave jeb energy. i don't think if he has a momentum shift, you know, i always want the underdog to do better. >> i go from devcon5 to defcon
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1 at one sneeze. when i watch bush, i want him to get mad because if that bully was talking over me like that, and i think it's critical what you made the point, debates matter in all of this. kennedy: obviously, look at marco rubio, fifth place finish. >> and mattered in the one that trump skipped. we've got one on saturday night. better all turn it up. >> whether they talk about substance, they matter. and part of the circus act, which is the real strain of all of this for me. it is very difficult to care a great deal whether it's kasich or trump or anybody else, because they are all so decidedly awful. only thing i want is for ted cruz to lose, not for any particular reason except i don't like the guy. kennedy: and you're not alone. >> and that is his biggest insurmountable struggle is people don't like him. >> they really don't. but he is great on the campaign trail, and you know what?
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he is aware of his shortfalls, and that is critical to any candidate, he has good ground game. kennedy: it's getting warmed up in south carolina and the sec primary. >> incredible turnout for him. kennedy: third place finish unexpected in new hampshire. big things for you, ted. big thing. never seen so many people excited about losing. the panel is coming up later, killer mike is the rapper, incredible, passionate about bernie sanders, but does he really think bernie can beat hillary? and later, nick gillespie joins me saying who
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. kennedy: he's not a fool with it, that's killer mike, big country king, bernie sanders may have taken new hampshire, hillary clinton is beating him two to one in south carolina largely because of hillary's popularity with black voters there. can bernie make inroads with minorities. ask one of his well-known supporters and one of my favorites, rapper killer mike. >> how is everyone doing, kennedy? how are you? kennedy: doing good, curiously watching all of this, the assumption is black voters are going to by and large vote for hillary clinton, she's got the vote in the bag. is that true?
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>> well, no, no, actually that's a very big lie. black voters of my grandparents age and maybe older than my parents have traditionally been democrats because the democratic party for the last 50 years is perceived as a party that cannot protect rights against the more unscrupulous politicians on the other side, that is true. but there's a contingency in the black community that are working class, middle class, that are men, that do not regularly vote that are energized by sanders. as we travel the world, i have been stopped by ten men in the last two days that all said i'm going vote for the first time in years or i'm going to vote when i thought i wouldn't vote for obama after sanders because of the interview i saw with you him. people, when we sat down at a restaurant together, a woman walked in and immediately embraced him. the community knows him. no one votes for one candidate except probably barack obama, the black community is
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definitely diverse have no fear. people supporting sanders at family picnics, we're out, there find us at the picnic and we'll talk more about it. kennedy: killer mike, you met bernie, you really like him. what is it about his message that you like so much? >> being african-american and southern, the greatest social justice fighter you learn about and the first one you learn about is martin luther king. my grandmother was a civil rights advocate, she marched with dr. king raised in alabama, my mother was a lieutenant and organizer with dr. martin king. the late wife of andrew young taught me what social justice was. the only politician i had in my lifetime whose policy matched up with king and social justice is him. coates who is a great brother, wrote a great book talking about reparations with sanders held his feet to the fire for that, came out and said he's voting for sanders.
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for me, sanders makes sense on the level that social justice comes off first for he does for african-americans and we can once again look to be going forward in progression and not digression. kennedy: what endorsement do you think bernie sanders needs in the south and beyond? >> i think that the black religious base, people who call themselves reverends and bishops and pastors need to hold themselves to task. if we followed dr. king's philosophy for 50 years, hoped fair politician who would restore social justice to the people who most deserve it, the poor, the downtrodden, the sick, the black, the women, the gays, the population on the outskirts, if the only politician who stands is the guy from brooklyn who talks with a funny accent.
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that's bernie sanders. i'm going to ask people to take their bible, representation of jesus, take social justice, champion dr. king and hold the politicians to task and say who best fits the people that i'm telling people every sunday we should aspire to be. if we do that, you come with bernie sanders, if you don't, you are lying. kennedy: i like the positivity, you look at politics with very different lens, i have a hard time with bernie sanders finances and squaring spending trillions of dollars when a lot of billionaires taxed 77% are going to leave the country. if you start the big projects, my worry is you won't finish them. but what's more curious to me about you is you like rand paul as well. >> i do, man. i liked rand for his father's philosophy also. i think answers on both sides. don't marry one side, i don't agree with everything sanders agrees with. very far from him when it comes
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to guns and other certain issues. my vote oftentimes is dedicated to the american i feel it needs. the working class and the middle class deserve a break. i believe in this country, we are smart enough to come up with solutions so might not get the extreme he's fighting for but keep the other extreme away and sit down at a table together and come up with solutions. i'm tired of polarizing issues to the type i'm not in friendships i once had because i disagree on the issue. the candidate is the candidate we will best work with. by we, i mean regular americans do. i think one american comes in as superman and saves the day? absolutely not. do i think sanders has to listen to constituency and work policy around it? some things have to be altered and tailored and work my way around it. absolutely do. kennedy: killer mike, i love your point of view, i love the music, the remix, it is so good. appreciate you coming on.
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you are back in new york, bring it into the studio. >> i'll see you guys. lot of love. peace. kennedy: and to you as well. thank you. my panel returns later to break down marco rubio's stunning admission, nick gillespie joins me to say who the best libertarian options are for 2016. please stay right here.
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. kennedy: with rand paul out of the race and donald trump and bernie sanders winning primaries, libertarians are trying to figure out what to make of all of it? some say freedom lovers should rally around ted cruz, some are saying donald trump. and a few are even feeling the
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bern, sanders style, here to funnel the liberty vote in the best direction, it's nick gillespie, editor in chief of reason.com and "reason" tv. >> thanks for having me. kennedy: talk about this a little bit. hearing a lot the last few days that ron paul lovers and backers are gravitating toward bernie sanders. is that true, and is it insane? >> yeah, i don't think it's true. it is insane. you know, it's kind of nice the idea behind that which a couple of people have put out into circulation is the idea that if you have bernie as president, it will create a republican congress and they'll be at loggerheads and we'll have a do-nothing government and that's better than a do-something government. seems have reached, sanders is so delusional on economic policy and not that great on civil liberties or foreign policy or drug legalization issues to close the gab for libertarians.
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kennedy: interesting you say, that andrew carrel on "daily beast" said he could reschedule foreign policy first day in office and better than average at civil liberties, you say that is not so. i say the socialism is enough of a factor to nullify support. >> that's what i'm saying if sanders -- he's not making pot legalization or getting the government out of people's lives, front and center in his campaign. when you start to think about he wants to have an even more kind of invasive, you know, health service, where it would be single payer, he wants to make college free, he wants to make everything free and get money for it for the 1%, it would mean such an overhaul of the economic system, it would be pretty ridiculous, and so he's not so great on the other issues, but let's give it a shot. kennedy: it's a gamble. talk about donald trump, the other night i asked are there
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any libertarians who lead toward donald trump, it was a rhetorical question and thought the answer was overwhelming no but rabid trump supporters on twitter went nuts. >> you know, in a weird way, if donald, if the donald was true to his new york values where he wanted to keep people out of the bedroom and the board room, i could see that, but he isn't. he's both a bully and unmoored. he doesn't have governing principle other than that if i think it, it is a good thing and i'm going to force everybody around me to get along with it. as a result, there are certain things, the same thing with sanders, certain things he says that i could get behind. kennedy: like what? >> seems to be less hawkish at this point. he talk about wanting to kill not just terrorists but their families and make them watch. he's walked back from that and less bellicose than the other republicans, he just recently said i don't want to increase defense spending, i'll make it more efficient. that's better than somebody
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like ted cruz or marco rubio who have both been trying to increase defense spending without cutting spending elsewhere. so there are elements of donald trump, and you see old footage of him where he says i'm in favor of reproductive choice, in favor of pot legalization, things like that. he's not talking that way anymore, and kind of insane. which on a certain level part of me wants to see that. i would like to live through the collapse of rome, but probably rather watch it on hbo. kennedy: so the third choice for some libertarians, they're saying constitutionalist ted cruz. ted cruz says he's bringing back reagan's coalition of conservatives, evangelicals and conveniently libertarians and made a play for ron paul supporters and rand paul supporters, what do you have to say to those people who are ted curious? >> ted cruz says a lot of different things to different audiences so in iowa he was harping much more on evangelical social and culture war issues.
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in new hampshire he was backpeddling that, now that he's going to south carolina, talking about what's great about south carolina is that it's evangelical christians, and that means he pals around with a number of reverends and ministers who actually talk about homosexuality as being a crime. that should carry the death penalty. that is so disturbing. kennedy: what is this syria? that kind of talk is insane. we only have about ten seconds left. where should libertarians go? >> i think what libertarians should do is call out -- these guys have fungible principles. what i want as a libertarian is a government that spends less and does less and allows me and everybody around me more freedom. any candidate who can make a credible claim they will pursue that agenda, i'll vote for them ten times in every election, i'll lie and cheat and steal to give them more votes than i have legally. kennedy: very good, keep us posted. thank you so much, nick. >> thank you.
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kennedy: coming up, think johnny depp dive into the 2016 race by portraying one of the candidates. his name rhymes with ronald stump. bernie s
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you toker i tower in brass. >> i would hate to see you're mother have an accident. >> the art of struggle. >> the art of love. >> remove -- she is killing me. kennedy: that is a pretty good trump impersonation. do you know who also does a good donald trump? he is black, and has high office in government, mm-hmm. >> so you understand, i am really good at war, i love war in a certain way. but only when we win. kennedy: always about the winning, topic two -- woo! bernie sanders has always been considered a long shot to win the democratic nomination for president, who knew, he had such a sick outside shot as he waited for avalanche of good news in the granite state, he was knocking in baskets on the court with his grand kids. look at that form?
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soothe as sill -- smooth as silk wrapped around a baby's bottom. look at that. topic three. >> thank you scotty singer for sending this story this via twitter, joshua james a outdoors man, a prankster, and a fascination with late crocodile hunter steve erwin, one must ask what would steve irwin do if he drove through a wendy's at 1:30 in the morning? probably not this. look at that. joshua james found a gator on
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the side of the road, and hucked it through the window of a drive-thru, he was arrested and charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, unlawful transport of a alligator and petty theft, he has been ordered to stay away from wendy's and animals, shocking part. the guy is from florida! topic four. >> a lot confuse babies they are not good at topographical maps, they are terrible at working out compound interests, what happens when a 16 month old is confronted with his dad's identical twin, watch. >> do you want da-da? who is that? who is that? da-da.
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>> who is that? >> da-da. >> that is real mean, mom was in corner blushing, saying, why would you think your brother is the real father. he will get big enough to understand what twins are. topic five. always find subjects for their art this time victim is masochist dan rucci, he left a mouth trap snap on his tongue, does it lop off his mouth slug? watch. >> oh.
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so gross. kennedy: it is so gross! okay there it goes again, this is 2000 frames per second look at that impressive, a healthy mouse. i wish he had been dismembered. i am a sa said -- do you think that -- what is wond to responder do that if you have weird stories, tweet me at kennedy nation. use hash tag topical storm. we'll leave the light on for you. >> coming up the panel return, u.s. women soccer bully hope may miss the olympics because of the zika virus
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♪ kennedy: i love that song, welcome back. marco rubio finished fifth in new hampshire after a sun serge in iowa, but the man responsible, marco rubio. talking about his debate performance. >> i want you to understand something, our disappointment tonights is not on you. it's on me. it's on me. i did not -- i did not do well on saturday night, listen to this. that will never happen again. that will never happen again. kennedy: it might. the party panel is back. so camille, i started watching rub rubio's speech he was
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going on and on about his dad and the great mojitos he makes, he is such a tease. >> that would be really good right now, really good. >> he needs to drink jim beam neat man if he is going to south carolina. >> was there any confusion about whose fault this was that you did not do particularly well. yes you stunc stunk it up. kennedy: did you watch. >> i did,. kennedy: were you cringing when he was getting hammered by christie. >> i picked up right after. then i returned to that line. >> any time chris christie leans on the podium it makes me real nervous. kennedy: he said, folks i am
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going to talk directly to you. >> that wasn't a weight joke? >> it was a weight joke. >> oh. >> it is refreshing to hear a candidate take responsibility for something they did wrong. this is interesting. >> to your point -- >> i don't know i think that speech came off desperate and weird. >> he is trying to seem more like a human. not rehearsed. but what works for trump, never admitting you did anything wrong, that does not necessarily work for another candidate. it will be interesting, turn out for this debate, get rid of the cindy brady panic attack. kennedy: have an original thought you put together in the moment, this premanufactured mem orized gobbledygook is wearing thin.
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what are you going to do to free up capital to start a business, what are you going to do to make the world safer without intruding on my civil liberties? >> there is something to be said for donald trump, i don't like most of his prescriptions for things, he seems to make them up. but that resonates somehow, at the bottom this is populism, but maybe marco rubio could learn a thing or two from that,. kennedy: just go be your own game, be you marco. >> speaking of being you. and her. u.s. star goalkeeper hope solo, no relation to han solo is concerned about going to brazil to play in the olympics because of the zika virus, i think she has a good point, it would scare the living bejesus out of me, she has a valid point?
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>> you know, it is not like canceling a vacation, this is the olympics, you work your life toward, it makes fee me feel similar to when i hear a football player leaving the nfl early because they are worried about concussions. easy for me to say, you can't live in fear. but you can't live in fear, this is something that these people work their whole lives toward. kennedy: but she has already won world cup and olympic gold, if you are going to have a kid, and you have this virus, you don't know how that -- micro cephaly is a real condition, she needs to go to south america and beat up the mosquitoes, and they should move the games to los angeles, los angeles could handle on the fly another round of olympics and we all know it.
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>> i think she is trying to get attention for something that does not involve legal problem at this time, i don't care what she thinks about zika, lemonade or time of day, i don't care what she thinks about anything, i want her to go away. kennedy: you don't like hope. >> role model, no. >> she is hiding something. kennedy: do you think she is looking for an excuse to get out of the game. >> sure, but she could also just not go. you could just not go. >> zika is a heck of a freaka. no one has an answer yes. by the time games roll around they will have nano technology antivirus. we have tr track their moves and turn the players into robots. >> we will return to talk to kanye west and his defense of bill cosby but first.
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kennedy: we learned a clear lesson from new hampshire, exit polls, voters are scared of terrorism, some think that donald trump is protect us, 90% of republicans polled said they were worried about another terrorist attack in u.s. 35% of those polled, voted for donald trump. >> james clapper, said yesterday that isis has chemical weapons and deployed them in iraq and syria, lieutenant colonel ralph peters is here to make sense of it, a fox news analyst,
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welcome back. >> what is it you are lieutenant colonel, you are colonel, i am a civilian. >> i have a solution, try ralph? kennedy: don't mind if i do. let's get into this, ralph, as it were. >> okay. kennedy: james clapper said there are so many threats faces this country. the likes of which he has never seen, down believe much that comes out of his mouth, i am fanning flames of hysteria, how do you tell fear mongering from truth. >> i think in this case, clapper is closer to being right, than we might like, because the obama administration approach has been fools rush in, in international security affairs, th the, he who hesitates is lost, obama has hesitated with so long with
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the hamlet hand reading to be or not to be, we see a greater proliferation of threats large or small, than i have seen in my lifetime, i grew up with cold war, and get under the desk drills. but we're looking at a civilization collapsing in the middle east, a nuclear threat of from north korea, europe overwhelmed with refugees and the calls it identity into question, and u.s. torn by an election that seems to be a race to the bottom, foreign or domestic i think we have real cause to be concerned. kennedy: let's talk about donald trump. right now the climate plays into his hands with the economy and security. you analyze these situationses, and threats, how do you think that donald trump would actually and practically deal with something like isis? >> i cannot say, he doesn't know how he would, i don't
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know if donald trump scares terrorists but he scares me, he is intradi intradig of great american -- tradition of great american demagogues, i don't want to go partisan on this but donald trump and all of the other candidates say, safbut john kasich that is not an endorsement. but none are laying out a serious plan how they would deal with isis and other initial threats this is -- international threats, they are all sound bites, this is more serious than sound bites, tell me how you will do it tell me which advisors you will have told you how to do it. we're paying a price, for lack of military experience among this country's elite. these guys just don't know how security affairs in our military work. kennedy: we talked about
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trump, a quote from bernie sanders, said we must and will destroy isis but in a way that did you not put our young men and women in military in perpetual warfare in the quagmire of the middle east, that sounds reasonable. >> that is obama's approach, that sounds good, no boots, don't get involved, but look at ha happened because we were unwilling to do even minimum required to defeat this terrorist threat, it is doable but you have to mean it. as a result of obama's inactivity. his passivity, we have seen islamic states spread across almost globally, we're seeing putin teaching us thousan how to do military operation in syria, and john kerry, everyone said that putin would get in a quagmire, no, putin is winning, he is winning big on the ground, he understands that fundamental point of
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warfare is to win. we are seeing europe torn up. kennedy: that is what donald trump says like america is not doing enough winning. i agree with you, there has to be specifics. if you don't know how to do it tell us who will, ralph peters thank you for joining me again. >> thank you. kennedy: thank you so much. >> coming up kanye west, on team cosby. when it comes to the ailing comedians rape allegations, get ready, get a pudding pop, it's going to be a b when it comes to small business, she's in the know. so strap yourselves in for action flo! small business edition. oh, no! i'm up to my neck in operating costs! i'll save the day! for plumbers and bakers and scapers of lawn, she's got insurance savvy you can count on. you chipped my birdbath! now you're gonna pay! not so fast! i cover more than just cars and trucks. ♪ action flo did somebody say "insurance"? children: flo! ♪ action flo
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kennedy: one more, welcome back, this week kanye west weighed in on bill cosby's rape allegations. here is his statement -- that is it, right there.
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he is trolling he -- totally. >> he did not substantiate any of it. >> would you expect him to. >> he hasan album comes out, and. >> please. >> he shook your hand. >> we're virtually blood brothers, astonishing i have not receive my ticket. >> kanye west is such a lunatic i don't think that bill cosby would want his support. >> by lunatic you mean genius. >> you look at his twitter timeline you need someone there with you to help you come down from a bad trip. it makes your head snap, i was looking at the of the new.
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>> he is one of few that has -- >> can we give kanye some credit, kim kardashian, dressing fortensk forever 21. >> until he came along with whole 9 yards, he went threw her closet, and now electric alook at her. >> you know that. >> yes. >> look at this. >> i did not have to upgrade my wife. kennedy: it might have gone other way. >> but, no. >> taking care. kennedy: right, a couple with spill i style is a couple i will support mile after mile. >> i like that. kennedy: thank you so much. carly ! you are fond fundamental, iphenomenal, thank you for watching show. follow me on twitter and
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