campaign because it would be impossible to win. and what does that mean? that means that automatically, they are going to appoint very, very, very liberal judges and all of this time time that the republicans are fighting saying that we don't want president obama to appoint the judge, it's not going to matter because the new president who would be a democrat would appoint the judge so it no longer matters. and you probably are talking about, because it just seems to be the appointment of three, four, or five supreme court judges. and you got to start thinking about that, folks. because anybody that does a third party, that's what it's going to mean. very simple. it guarantees, 100% guarantees the election of the democrat. that means the appointment of supreme court judges, three, four or five. that is a total wipeout for conservatives and for republicans. so start thinking about that.

start thinking about it. this was just an exciting time. i'm having a lot of fun. i have to tell you that ted, i was watching him and congratulations in the two states, ted. but he was saying that donald trump has a ceiling of 35 to 40%. well, cnn just came out with a poll two days ago that said i have 49% compared to his 15%. so i guess it's not 40. i mean, i have a 49% number. some of the polls are showing over 50% and i don't even think they're accurate. i've won many polls, as you know, against hillary clinton directly. and i'm the only one that's going to beatler, if she's allowed to run. i'm the only one that's going to beat her. and the only one, remember that, and i am the one person, the one person, trust me, that she does

not want to run against. now, we only had one little skirmish and that was four weeks ago and not pleasant for her and bill but i'm the one person. i'm really ashamed of the press because they got it the wrong. they didn't give me any credit, when she went like this. you remember when she was beating bernie easily and four weeks ago, bernie was doing great, you know why? because she went down. and i got no credit for that. please give me some credit for that, okay? so i look forward to that race. and again, i haven't really done anything with hillary. we haven't started on hillary except for the one moment four weeks ago. i think we're going to have something that's really big. i heard hillary today and i watched her statement tonight. and her statement is, make america whole. that's a terrible statement.

make america whole. i think she means we're in a hole. we're in a deep hole and we're trying to dig our way out. we owe $19 trillion and if that's the kind of promotional ability we have on the other side, our country's in big trouble. make america whole. no, make america great again. that's what mine is. make america great again, okay? so again, this has been a very exciting evening and i just have to thank the people of louisiana, the people of kentucky. you're amazing. i will never ever forget it. i was in louisiana last night. and we had a group of people in an airplane hangar, this massive hangar and you couldn't even get them in. this was a seriously big hangar for very, very big planes. and i landed, got out, walked into the hangar. there were thousands and thousands of people. and it was incredible.

and the same thing a few days ago in kentucky. we had a rally that was incredible. and today's rally in orlando, florida, nobody's seen anything like it. they're saying they've never seen anything like it in the history of politics in this country, they have never seen anything like it. it was so reported even in the "new york times" today on the front page. people have never ever seen anything like it in the history of politics in the history of the united states. it's a movement. i want to thank all of my friends, all of my members, all of my everything. have you been so smoirtive, so great and you're very, very special people. thank you. and with that, if you'd like, you know the press is among the most dishonest people ever created by god. so i would love to take a few questions from these dishonest, people. go ahead, press. john?

john skarpa. [ inaudible question ] >> okay, if i can do it, i'll do it. john skarpa, everybody. if i can do it, i'll do it. yes, sir, go ahead. >> reporter: now that you're -- are you going to [ inaudible question ]. >> i love you as a reporter. where have you been? this is the greatest guy. lying ted. he holds up the bible and then he puts it down and elis. okay? lying ted. i never saw a man that lied as much. ted, what he did to ben carson was a disgrace. and actually me. because had he not gotten those ben carson votes, i would have won iowa, too. i would have had everything. what he did, frankly, when he did voter violation on a form

that la looked like it came right out of a government agency, voter violation and the only way you get rid of the violation essentially is by going and voting for ted cruz. did you see this? and people did that because they were afraid. it was terrible. it was a very fraudulent thing and he's done a lot of bad things. ben carson is a great, great guy. i thought that was a disgrace. he said basically that ben carson is out of the race. come on is, vote for me. he knew it was happening. one of those things. but i do think this. i do think that ted is at least moving along okay. but marco has to get out of the race. has to. because despite what ted said, oh, do i want to run against just ted. that will be easy. okay. david, go ahead. >> reporter: you have a record on gay marriage that i think --

and i think you're kind of all over the map on it. what is your position on gay marriages, are and -- >> well, i've made it very strong. we have policy on it, and i've said it very, very strongly. and i think you know it. it's all done. how many times do i have to say it? it's like, be david, as an example, what is my position on 900 different things. i've said it 150 times. we're not here discussing that. but everybody knows how i feel on it. question, question? david, sit down, please. david, david, sit down. you know my position. yes, go ahead, john, go ahead. >> reporter: mr. trump, you can't wait to face ted cruz head to head. >> we're the only two that are winning. by the way, he keeps saying about i am the one that beats

donald trump. i've been beating him almost three to one. on super tuesday, i got a million votes more than marco and a half a million votes more than ted. that's a lot of votes. go ahead, john. >> you said in a head to head match-up you will win. >> he'll not win. he's not going to win. he's not going to win. he can't win. and he's not going to win something else. first of all, i'd love to have a head to head match-up with him in florida, as an sample and in ohio. but in new york, he's not going to get very many votes. in new jersey, pennsylvania and whoif, he's not going to get very many votes. i would like marco to drop out from the standpoint that i think -- look how he did tonight. he's in third and fourth. somebody was nice enough to say that even when i don't win a state, i always come in second. that's a big thing. marco's come in fourth. so i think it's time for marco

to clean the deck. i do. and i say that respectfully. >> reporter: if i could -- >> because, i wanted to go -- look, and matt's a great guy. but look, i wanted to go to kansas. i felt i had an obligation. i did fairly well in kansas considering i spent, you know, literally an hour there, a very small time. but i wanted to go to kansas to campaign. i've been to cpac from the beginning. i like it. i respect the people at cpac. i respect matt a great deal. i hated to cancel but i'm doing something that's very important. the people that are at cpac for the most part an aren't campaigning. i'm campaigning to be president. had i not gone kansas this morning, i would not have done as well as i did. i came in second place. so it was a very important thing. john, go ahead. you were afraid.

>> i've taken more questions from reporters than any human being maybe that's ever lived. give me a break. no, i don't care. i was hearing matt say today and it was very interesting, but i was hearing matt say i didn't like the format. i would rather speak for 30 minutes but i hate when you speak for 10 or 15 minutes and then you're interrupted and then you sit down. i've done it three times now. i would rather speak, but if somebody wants to ask me in the case of dana or sean hannity, i mean, i would love to do that. this was simply a fact that i wanted to campaign. and i'm campaigning. very few people are campaigning. i'm very happy i did it. and i met a lot of great people in kansas. mr. phil ruffin, one of the most successful people in the united states, really worked hard in kansas. i oweded to him and a lot will have people to go there this morning.

yes, sir. >> reporter: mr. trump -- [ inaudible question ]. held a rally. >> family. >> held a rally. and started a movement on social media called what about bob. knows where he is or they know and they're not saying. what would you do if you become president? disappears in that part of the world under mysterious circumstances, what is the trump white house policy on that. >> we would want to get to the bottom of it. our weakness in dealing with iran has been unprecedented. " fact we gave them $150 billion and they're a terrorist state. the fact that they spent much of that money buying other than american products. they bought 118 massive airplanes, very large airplanes from airbus, not from boeing,

not from anything having to do with had country. they spent a lot of their money in russia buying missiles. they gave us nothing. i will get down to the bottom of that. i think it's a disgrace. please give his family my regards. it's a disgrace. i this i they know where he is. i think they absolutely know where he is. if i'm elected president, i will get to the bottom of it, okay? go ahead. >> reporter: he's bringing out in your campaign rallies, do you have some -- >> i have nothing to do with it. when you have 25,000 people in a building, today we had send away so many thousands of people, we couldn't get them in. when you have that many people, if you have four or five people or ten people stand up out of 22,000 that are in this building that i'm speaking to, a very great entertainer said donald, you're the biggest draw in the world without a guitar, which is

sort sort of an interesting -- i won't tell you that was the great elton john. i will not tell you that. but somebody did make that statement. when you have that many people, understand in a room and you'll have a couple of not skirmishes, just a couple of protests and we treat them very gently. ten years ago, they would have been treated differently, not by me but that's the way life is. we treat them very, very gently. yeah, we had a few protesters today but very few. if you look at it as a percentage, we had what, 1/100 of 1% of the people in the room. i watched bernie sanders have a protest. he was up at the microphone and two ladies came up and took the microphone away from him. that will never happen with me. i said isn't that pathetic, isn't that sad?

>> reporter: the other night on fox news, they talked about the size of your manhood. [ jeers ] >> yeah, i mean this is the problem with reporters. look, just so you understand, not me. somebody else, marco brought it up. do you notice, look, you look at what happens to marco. let me tell you, i didn't bring it up. excuse me. somebody else said donald trump has small hands. so i said small hands? i hit a ball 280 yards. stand up, my club champions. stand up. do i hit the ball good? do i hit it long inning is trump strong inning huh? so look, so i just simply held up the hands. these are very strong hands and they're fairly large actually. you know what? it was interesting because -- are and you shouldn't be bringing this up to be honest with you. but it was very interesting

because the day after he said that, i'm shaking hands with people. and everybody is saying, wow, you have strong hands. you have very big hands. what happened is marco just made it up out of nowhere because he's a politician and politicians lie and they say bad things and if you don't call them out for it, you don't. now, i didn't bring it up. he brought it up. but i finished it up. marco attacked me viciously a week ago, two weeks ago. so far every person that's attacked me has gone down. look at his numbers tonight. he cannot hold one of those phony rallies where he did well because he did really badly. he's not going to stand up tonight and talk about how well he did in iowa where he was in third place and he acted like he won. i agree with ted on that. they have to -- here's the story. i would love it to be at a high level. i will be the most presidential

candidate. history other than honest abe lincoln. he was very tough to beat. you look at abe lincoln. he was serious, right? i will be -- but when i get attacked by these people at a low level, i have to attack back. i can't stand there. some people say you're above it. you should stand there. i can't do that. you know what? i'll never do that for our country either. yes, go ahead. [ applause ] okay, go ahead. >> reporter: [ inaudible question ] >> i'm totally denouncing and any hate group no good with donald trump. any hate group. i didn't know that actually. but if you tell me, i will believe it. i totally denounce, okay? boeing? i will help the party fund

raise, yes. i will help the party fund raise. i'm not looking for funds myself. i'm totally self-funding myself. i will help the party fund raise but i don't want any money for myself. >> reporter: the possibility of -- >> i think we'll win before the convention. i think we'll win before. i sponsor a lot of sporting events. the fighters have a great expression when they go into a city or a town where it's an unfriendly town but they think they're going to win, they say the only way to guarantee victory is knock them down. the only way to guarantee victory is to get enough delegates. if you think about it like the prizefighters do, that's called a knockout. we're on a path to do that. we think we're going to do very well in florida. and we got the two big ones. louisiana and kentucky tonight were the two big ones. maine we did well in maine, really well in maine but it was much smaller than louisiana,

kentucky, kansas was also smaller. we came in second in both. but we won louisiana and kentucky. they were the big ones, okaying? go ahead. yeah. you said you wanted to -- what specifically did you mean? >> so the question was asked about waterboarding. and water boarding is a very, very touchy subject. it was originally asked two debates ago to ted cruz. and he sort of didn't want any part of that question. and i watched and said wow. hen they looked at me and said how do you feel? i said i am totally in favor of water board package. if we can, i'd like to do much more than that, okay? just so you understand, we're playing by a different set of rules than isis and others especially in the middle east. we're playing by a different set of rules. so we have loss and rules and regulations and all of these things and they have nothing. they chop off people's heads.

they drown people in massive steel cages. they drop account cage for one hour, lift it up and there are 30 dead people. here we are worried about waterboarding. here's the story. i will obey the laws. but i will try and get the laws extended. i will try and get the laws broadened because we should be allowed -- because it's very hard to be successful in beating someone when your rules are very soft and their rules are unlimited. they have unlimited, they can do whatever they want to do. i want to play -- look, we're going to rebuild our military. we're going to knock out isis so violently and so fast. they chop off heads. they do things we haven't seen since medieval times and we're worried about waterboarding. wait, wait, sit down. let me just tell you. okay? excuse me.

i want to stay within the laws and right now, we have the laws. but i want to make those laws stronger. so that we can better compete with a vicious group of animals. okay? okay. yes, go ahead [ inaudible question ] >> i think we're going to do great. i think we have a 20-point lead in florida. go ahead. >> romney after his remarks days ago, you picked up two more states. what would you say to mr. romney tonight, sir? >> look, mitt romney was a fail candidate. he was a terrible candidate. he smoked absolutely choked as bad as i've ever seen other than marco when chris christie was grilling him. that i was big choke also. i thought he was going to collapse. i was standing right next to him. i was getting ready to hold him

up with these very powerful hands. that was a collapse. that was a choke. but mitt romney choked as a candidate, he choked. he knows how i feel. when he was thinking of getting into the race seven, eight months ago, i said you cannot let -- look, it's too important. i said you cannot let mitt romney in this race. he's a choker. and you know, through sports, i can tell you i have some great sportsmen right here. when you see somebody choke, generally speaker, once a choker, always a choker. now, mitt romney gave that election away. that was an election against a failed president ha should have been easily won. mitt romney didn't work hard, that last month, he disappeared. and say what you want about president obama, he was on jay leno, he was on david letterman. he was all over the place and where was mitt romney? where was he? if he would have devoted the same energy and time to winning

the presidency four years ago as he is now when trying to destroy the unity of our party, he would have won that election and we wouldn't have the problems we have right now. so ladies and gentlemen, i want to thank you all. this has been amazing. it's very exciting. and i look forward to seeing you many times in the near future. thank you very much. thank you. thank you. >> all right. if he ever did become president of the united states, lets just say press conferences with president trump would be interesting. you sit down. i'm done with you. he is who he is and he's pretty much in pur face. if you're going to try to zing him with a question, he will zing back and put you in your place. but bottom line is, he feels that carrying two of the four contests tonight was good enough for victory. we'll sort out the delegates later. but he's going to argue i got two, the other guy got two.

marco rubio got none. >> i did quick math. i think trump 375, cruz 29 as we know 1,237 is the goal. 1,635 available out there for the taking. >> that was it. >> 366 is what frank is looking for. after kentucky and los angeles. >> so he's a little bit ahead. >> 1237. it's interesting to watch the media reaction here because they're acting like that trump, this was a loss for trump. and i'm like, well, i don't know. you look at those were closed voting contests. >> we have a problem with your mike. we do want to hear from you. >> you mean like the twitterverse. i've been trying for years. >> help her with that. >> just crawl across account table and yell into his microphone. >> what do you make of that that one of the things we're getting into, the idea being that he's

keeping ahead of pace. he did lose two states tonight. ted cruz about remain viable but ted cruz didn't gain significantly. >> the calendar doesn't favor ted cruz after tonight. that's where you hear the quote from the donald trump, i want ted one-on-one. he does now after the best of ted cruz -- >> do you think that would go. >> i think it would favor trump. >> what about in the debates? cruz is a formidable. >> i think a strong debater. >> where would rubio supporters go? trump's making the assumption i want marco rubio to drop out and go one-on-one with ted cruz but ted could benefit from marco rubio. >> interestinging about trump's response, he's perfectly happy knowing that he pushes these other guys out. he makes it tougher. >> that's what i kept thinking, too. i'm in florida my second home, right? because he's even just almost like emotionally pulling that state towards him.

i even thought, consequently disagrees with me. this is not the only reason jeb bush dropped out. it seems like he targets one competitor more than another. one's down. marco is the next to go. i know he's not going to drop out before florida but it's clear i think. >> interesting his relationship with the press. he got mad at us by having mitt romney on. but what's are interesting is he'll take them on and be very angry at the press that has been very sick fantish with him. >> nobody's benefited from media more than donald trump. >> it's free coverage. everybody else is paying millions of dollars. >> it was interesting, i hate reporters. when push comes to shove, they've been shoving him forward. they like him. >> he has a lot of personal friends in the washington elite media over the years. >> you never go wrong criticizing the media. >> that's the point. >> it's the last acceptable

prejudice. >> four or five things, i was thinking this at his rally. the media is one. all he has to say, look at these people and he points and we're all sitting like in a pen and these people start -- most of it's funny and part of it is okay, this is a little weird because these people start screaming at you. other reporters have said this is a little intimidating and he has other issues that he brings up. common core is one. he just says common core, out. everybody goes crazy. he's got for our five things he goes to at every rally. >> so strong in his point of view, when someone says you haven't spelled out your position, he goes yes, i have. >> there were reporters trying to ask him what's going to happen next with the supreme court. i heard a warning, too. he said if a third party candidate gets in there, it would guarantee a democratic win. so i thought wait, why is he

even saying that? if he's having a feel good night, why is he issuing -- >> i like the boxing analogy. paraphrasing, you have to win by a knockout. you can't wait for a decision. he is saying i need that 1237 plus going into the convention. i know what these guys are going to try to do to me. >> tonight on twitter people were acting like this was a cruz win tonight because he took two states because he's slowing donald trump's momentum. >> how do you guys see this. >> peggy noonan is saying trump was hurt by how he behaveded in that debate in being so crass. >> well, if the debate were better or more gent teal, would he have won the two states he won? >> probably not. the fact that rewon two out of four close contests where it was only republicans, one was a caucus state. i thought that it was a draw in every sense of the word. >> he won the smaller ones, are

kansas and maine. that is ted cruz and donald trump picks up louisiana and kentucky where you had the most delegates. now that doesn't mean it will be divided that way. i don't trust data with the that. it breaks slightly in trump's favor, right? >> yeah, he's on pace. he's not better or sort of closer. he's not further. >> isn't the headline out of on the that rubio was just either whatever pick your term, collapsed or didn't do anything? >> did rubio go into this with any expectstation he was going to do well? >> no, but i think if anything he underperformed and got nothing done. even your michigan poll. >> but he's -- he's still amassed 150, 160 delegates. >> yeah, rubio. >> a teeny bit under that. but just a hair under that. to your point, and i'm going

through and conthe thresholds w low. this wasn't texas where you you needed 50%. >> he could pick up some did hes. >> yeah, 5%. kansas was 10%, louisiana the highest at 20%. maine at 10%. they all had a chance to add a couple points. >> let's review where we stand here. i'll try to do it justice here with the wrap-up of the states here. there you have it, it's a split between the top two finishers with donald trump picking up kentucky, louisiana and, of course, ted cruz picking up maine and kansas. now, again it, looks like a fairly even to a slightly favoring donald trump split of the delegates. on the democratic side, very, very quickly here, you have bernie sanders picking up two of the contests to hillary's one but she moves closer and with more superdelegates might have a better night. we looking to tuesday. hawaii, idaho. mississippi, and what could be a

big development brewing, maybe in michigan where all of a sudden, a poll that will once has donald trump up at about 22 points now has john kasich up. we'll see tuesday. maybe just as late. see u then. armies of its kind. >> would you say it was a hobby? or was he obsessed? >> i think that he was obsessed. >> soldiers of fortune -- and a fortune in soldiers. >> do you have any idea what it's worth? >> yes, we know what it's worth. >> can i know what it's worth? >> the man who raised this army was on a mission... >> he was a true historian. he wanted to bring these battles to life. >> but is it a bridge too far for his heirs? >> he left you with a huge responsibility, didn't he? >> it's just too difficult. >> it's kind of interesting that toy soldiers would get their own trust. >> i don't have my own trust, but they got theirs. [ theme music plays ]

♪ >> i'm jamie colby, and today i'm in new york on the south fork of long island on my way to the beach community of southampton. a viewer wrote to me about her father, whose childhood hobby became his lifelong obsession. he wanted to share his strange collection with the world after he died. his heirs want to honor his wishes, but is the world even interested? ♪ >> my name is linda munn. in 2011, my father, my father, orson, passed away, leaving the family one of the largest collections of its kind, along with the monumental challenge of carrying on his legacy. >> linda has invited me to her parents' country home. hi, linda. i'm jamie. >> jamie, it is such a pleasure to meet you. >> so great of you to invite me here. you wrote me. you said you had something really strange. >> i have something very special to show you.

>> all right. i'm ready. shall we go in? >> come on in. >> yeah. in here? >> yeah, just walk straight ahead. >> what? linda takes me into her dad's war room... >> it's amazing. >> ...where orson spent countless hours over the years on his unique hobby. the room is filled from floor to ceiling with nothing but toy soldiers. thousands strong, the tiny troops stand frozen in time, their miniature faces stoic with expressions of war. this is a lifetime of work, linda. amazing. there's the charge of the light brigade... the battle of cambrai... napoleon's defeat at waterloo... clashes from the boer war all the way up through world war ii. stare at them long enough, and you can imagine them coming to life. [ gunfire, men yelling ]

toy soldiers become a passion for orson munn when he moves from manhattan to long island as a little boy, says his widow, pat. >> he came out here because he has ill health. the doctors felt that he should be in the country. >> orson's chronic ear ailment often keeps him confined in his room. >> that's when he started playing with soldiers on a tray in his bed. >> were they substitutes for friends? >> i think that they were. >> orson iii says his dad kept building his armies through prep school, princeton, and law school. then orson decides, rather than collecting troops, he'll become one. >> he was in the navy during the second world war, and he actually lied to get in because he was stone deaf in one ear. but he felt it was his obligation. >> after the war, orson returns home, marries pat, starts a family, and launches his career.

>> father said, whatever you do, don't go on wall street, but he did anyway, and he was very, very successful. >> the family lives in new york city but spends weekends here in southampton. it's around this time that orson's toy-soldier recruitment begins to ramp up. >> he bought and traded them constantly. >> we had correspondence -- i say "we" -- it's not we -- he -- from all over the world. >> he would go to europe. he'd stop by a soldier store in london that was his favorite, and he would buy them. >> we stayed in a wonderful little hotel in vienna, and naturally, the back door of the hotel was a soldier shop. >> i think he picked it on purpose. >> [ laughs ] on purpose. >> just as he did when he was a boy, orson plays with his soldiers, painstakingly re-creating the world's most famous battles. >> i think that he could have easily have been a general. he knew more about military history than anyone i ever met.

>> orson hand-paints many of the miniature figures himself, spending hours on end adding even more historical detail to his military dioramas. >> he would come home, read his stack of analyst papers, and then go into his painting room. >> every single braid on the uniform, every button is clearly detailed for you. >> right down to the color of the eyeballs of napoleon. >> it's painstaking work. it's so accurate you can see the pain on the faces of some of the soldiers on their way to the ground. it's just incredible to me. >> he was a true historian -- he wanted to bring these battles to life. >> with sand on some shelves and artificial snow on others, no detail is too small for his handcrafted battle scenes. >> would you say it was a hobby? or was he obsessed? >> i think that he was...

obsessed. >> he even makes home videos of his collection. >> we have the battle of bastogne. the snow is talcum powder and they'd been fighting it out. the 101st airborne was not going to surrender. >> over the years, the battle scenes grow to include the charging scottish highlanders, the british fighting the zulus, and much more. >> the allies fighting the germans outside of berlin, the french foreign legion fighting the english in the desert. i mean, there are soldiers that are probably 80 years old. >> orson's is eventually one of -- if not the -- largest toy soldier collection in the country, with over 10,000 figurines. and as orson enters his golden years, he begins to worry about the fate of his beloved troops once he's gone. he has the will, but can his

heirs find the way? >> he left you with a huge responsibility, didn't he? >> it's just too difficult. >> coming up...rolling the dice with their strange and valuable inheritance. >> i'm busting your morale by killing all your flag holders. >> and i'm a guest in your home. >> you're the enemy. >> i do need to blow something up on your side. that's next. >> but first, our "strange inheritance" quiz question. in 1645, britain adopted its famous redcoat military uniform. what led to the color choice? is it that red uniforms did not show bloodstains? red dye was cheap? or that red made regiments appear larger? the answer when we return. pet moments are beautiful,

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>> so... it's b -- the red dye was cheap. there is no basis for the popular myth that red was favored to hide bloodstains. ♪ >> orson munn spent over 80 years collecting more than 10,000 toy soldiers, miniature figures he uses to meticulously re-create some of history's famous battles. >> the next group of figures that i have -- i painted them all myself. >> and as orson reaches his 80s,

the toy-soldier general hatches a plan to create a permanent base for his troops. >> what he would have liked more than anything is a museum in southampton. he gave 19 years of his life as a village trustee here. >> and his collection is well known in toy-soldier circles. but nobody in town seems interested in erecting a museum to display all this. but in the fall of 2010, a curator from several states away does come knocking. a museum did approach your father, but it wasn't in southampton. >> correct. >> orson receives a visit from the frazier history museum in louisville, kentucky, which offers to take the entire collection and put it on display. orson isn't ready to give up his men, but he does agree to a lesser donation -- 2,600 so-called flats -- two-dimensional soldiers he has in formation at his manhattan apartment.

so, why didn't dad turn over the collection to a museum that showed such enthusiasm? >> because we still had hope that we were gonna be able to get a building here in southampton. >> so, in august 2011, when orson passes away at the age of 86, his family inherits not only his toy soldiers, but the tall order of creating a museum to house them. did he specify in his will what he hoped the family would do with the soldiers that meant so much to him? >> what we did is we actually put them in a trust so they could be given away tax free to a museum. >> it's kind of interesting that toy soldiers would get their own trust. >> [ laughs ] yeah. exactly. right. i don't have my own trust, but they got theirs. >> these figures were, in their time, 50 cents for a cavalryman. these figures now sell at $250 and infantry at $100.

>> with that kind of appreciation, the 10,000 soldiers orson left behind may be worth a small fortune. >> after all, many are not so much toys as tiny sculptures, delicately handcrafted by talented artists. in 1893, an englishman named william britain revolutionized the production of toy soldiers through the method of hollow casting. after the military men are shaped, they are sent to sculptors and painters. >> build up on the metal base buttons, lapels, epaulets, which were then painted to the exact historical regiment. so, extreme detail. >> tara finley is an antique-toy specialist. the munns call her in to tell them what their strange inheritance is worth. >> i walked into the room on a cold december day, and here

before me was an army of thousands, displayed in very realistic dioramas. it was truly amazing. >> and a daunting task to photograph and appraise every last figure. >> there were 37 dioramas and 59 groupings of lead soldiers. it took a good five days. >> in addition to the soldiers orson painted himself, tara identifies thousands of highly sought-after classics, such as these by premier toy-soldier artist roger berdou, pegged at $500 apiece. so all those little soldiers add up to some big-time value. do you have any idea what it's worth? >> yes, we know what it's worth. >> can i know what it's worth? >> if it were auctioned off in

pieces, it's probably worth about $300,000 or $400,000. >> $400,000. but only if they break up the collection and sell it off to hundreds of younger orsons just starting off the hobby, hunting down their own missing pieces, constructing their own dioramas, fighting their own wars. that's the catch. why didn't he sell it during his lifetime? >> i think that if something gives you that much joy, the last thing that ever crossed his mind would be to sell it. >> but given the high appraisal, surely it crosses his heirs' minds, right? are you absolutely opposed to separating this collection and selling it? that's next. >> here's another quiz question for you. napoleon's infamous defeat during his 1812 invasion of russia was due in part to what stroke of bad luck?

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[ theme music plays ] >> so... it's c -- lice. a raging epidemic of typhus -- spread by lice -- infected the french army. more than 100,000 of napoleon's troops die from the disease. ♪ >> the bottom shelf here, every figure is different, and it was very difficult to get this set. >> orson munn spent his entire life building a toy army of more than 10,000 soldiers. >> i've shown a zulu warrior

wearing a red coat. >> his collection may be worth $400,000, but that never stops him from toying around with what would become their strange inheritance, say his kids, linda and orson iii. >> we used to take the soldiers out and set them up like a real war game. >> a thousand lead soldiers would be lined up on one side against a thousand lead soldiers on the other side. >> i was the only one that ever beat him in a battle. i surprised him with bringing up a cannon to the top of a church and blowing down the main street where he was approaching. >> you're scaring me now. >> [ laughs ] okay, these guys are going to shoot. both barrels. >> today, linda's challenged me to combat on the miniature war gaming battlefield. who's this guy? >> that's your general. and you got another general here. >> we use dice to determine how many steps the soldiers may take... >> [ laughs ] >> i'm supposed to measure. ...and rulers to measure

strides. got it. >> i'm busting your morale by killing all your flag holders. >> and i'm a guest in your home. >> [ laughs ] you're the enemy, not a guest. >> we were getting along so swimmingly. i do need to blow something up on your side. no guts, no glory. >> ready, aim, fire! boom! >> oh, my flags. >> sorry. >> let's get double something. all right! then we're gonna take the other three and shoot... >> in the end, though, i'm no match for the daughter of a mini commander in chief. i can't watch. >> [ laughs ] >> linda's father, orson, dreamed of a museum here in southampton, long island, for his troops. it's now up to his heirs to make it real. did he leave funds behind for you to accomplish that? or has that been left to your family's responsibility?

>> it's actually been left to the family to figure out how to do that. >> linda is dismayed to learn how much it will take to open and maintain a permanent display locally -- $10 million. did you try to raise any money? >> oh, yeah, we did. >> how much did you raise, do you think? >> we raised about $5,000 or $6,000. >> this is a pretty moneyed town. if you can't raise the interest and the money in southampton, where can you? >> i think it's not gonna happen, which is a shame. >> so what about donating the collection to an existing museum here in town? the family tries that, too, but none is interested in displaying 10,000 antique toys. have you gotten a no at every turn? >> pretty much. >> is that upsetting? >> it was and is very upsetting. >> so, it seems like southampton has spoken. >> it does seem that way, doesn't it? >> are you at a crossroads right now that maybe nobody is as interested in the collection

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[ theme music plays ] >> now back to "strange inheritance." >> the heirs of orson munn can't seem to fulfill his dying wish, a permanent local home for his massive toy-soldier collection. >> but some of orson's troops do receive their marching orders. remember those 2,600 flats orson donated to that museum in louisville, kentucky? the frazier uses these men to carefully re-create the battle of borodino -- the bloodiest clash during napoleon's failed invasion of russia in 1812. >> they assembled a team of like-minded individuals to himself, and they created this beautiful diorama. >> the team spends months making

sure every soldier is in place, and in november 2012, the display debuts to the public. >> we went out for the opening, and we couldn't believe it. >> you have the russian soldiers on horseback, you have wounded french that are trying to retreat off the battlefield. i mean, the wolves are attacking wounded soldiers. even showing that kind of level of detail. >> the family is impressed. in fact, they return to southampton even more resolved to find a nearby museum to house their father's collection. >> until i hear from a museum in this southampton village, we're probably not gonna make any moves quickly to disseminate the collection outside of southampton. >> i get it, but i have to say, when i think of the munns' strange inheritance story, from the sickly child enthralled with his first toy soldiers to the young man hooked on a collecting to the wealthy

money manager's escape into his war room, would it really be so tragic to split all this up piece by piece? i'd let history go ahead and repeat itself. a present once again inspires a young boy. another middle-aged guy indulges his hobby. and a lifelong collector finally gets the piece that completes his world war i diorama. there's a collector out there who has the entire setup except that one toy soldier they're missing. why not split it up and help a ton of other toy-soldier collectors get as much pleasure as your dad did? >> i believe that it would be in the best hands kept as a collection. you can read about a battle, but when you actually see it played out, you can see in a much more clear way what happened at that battle. when you see it, you have that

awed feeling, and it's the mass of them that is awesome. >> what happens if it doesn't work out at all? what happens if no museum is interested? would your dad be looking down on you and your sister and say, "i'm disappointed"? >> i don't think so. i think that he would be very pleased. we certainly have tried. and had it been so easy, i'm sure he could have done it. >> so, for now, the soldiers remain frozen in time, and the battle for orson munn's legacy at a stalemate. we mentioned orson painted most soldiers himself, but actually got some help from his granddaughter caroline. every tuesday afternoon during the school year, they would paint until bedtime. caroline remembers being as sloppy as a little girl can be with a brush, yet somehow, the next morning, every soldier looked impeccable. go figure.

i'm jamie colby for "strange inheritance." thanks so much for watching, and remember, you can't take it with you. [ airplane engine buzzing ] ♪ >>president kennedy has been assassinated. it's official now. the president is dead. >> even the most hated man in america... [gunshot ] >> [groans] >>lee oswald has been shot! >> ...gets his name on a headstone. >> the stone clearly shows oswald's date of birth and death. >> but how did it become their strange inheritance? >> i thought, "what on earth was a tombstone doing under my mother's house?" >> only after it's stolen, recovered, hidden, found, fought over, and more. >> we're going to take it back to texas, back home to the good ol' boys where it can have a lone star beer and make a lot of noise. >> you really wanted it back, dave. why? >> maybe they messed with the wrong tombstone owner.