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and ohio, right? the two to watch on tuesday. sandra smith, jack, don't to erth to spring forward. set your clocks ahead one hour at 2 a.m. on sunday. spring forward, yeah, baby. that will do it for us today. thanks for joining us. "varney & company" begins right now with charles payne. >> moments from now, donald trump will take the stage you're looking at at mar lago, florida and accompanied by dr. ben carson. that's right, dr. carson looking to endorse donald trump for president the g.o.p. front runner picks up another deendorsement. and days away from winner take all states that could make or break in election. we'll take you to that podium live. and i'm charles payne in for stuart varney. lee, tell us how big is this?
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>> and you want the answer to this. >> yes, i do. >> it's huge, it's huge. >> huge. >> i think, you know, we're waiting here and it's not just getting an endorsement, i think we're putting together a cabinet and going one by one, this isn't just about me, look at the people i'm surrounding myself. >> we've got the attorney general and the surgeon general? >> i think that what we're saying. >> and education, too, for ben carson, and in trump's speech. >> he'll bring the evangelicals and bring his grass roots operation and what's going to be interesting is how ben carson and donald trump will talk about policy and where will dr. ben carson weigh in on, on common core and education or further beyond that? >> then of course, there's this idea that last night's debate, speaking of the debate, lee, you're the expert on-- did you do your dials? >> i did. >> and the civility of it all,
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was that good or bad? and in twitter sphere, social media was kind of disappointed because of this. listen, people love to watch car crashes. >> right. >> and did it work overall, do you think? >> look, i think a lot of the dialog we saw, they were never as high as we often see them. i think a lot of people were waiting for the punch line and especially when trump was up, but overall we heard, especially from kasich, especially from rubio, we saw that even the democrats were responding really, really favorable to these guys and they were talking about policy, talking about issues, and talking about security, when they were talking about education, we were talking about issues of substance and people were responding, even trump when he's talking about, this is time to come together. >> you said even democrats, because trump likes to say, i am also pulling in a lot of democrats, too. so, you know, you see that in florida, early polls showing 18% higher than in 2012, 2014, academics are saying that could be trump pulling out according
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to a report. >> i've seen that rubio is winning the early vote in florida so we'll see. essentially, also, i think it's interesting, gillian, that what -- to your point about the civility aspect of it, a lot of people say listen, donald trump, he hits the stage being bombastic. itsdz shifting toward that presidential general election thing. could it be shifting too soon? listen, at this point, his core supporters are his core supporters, he knows he's got them in the bag, is this the right time to make the move? >> i think it is, wh especially in a debate last night, there were foreign policy topics, hitting hard and talking peace in the middle east and reengaging with cuba. you need to sound presidential on these issues and part of the thing there is that his core supporters as you mentioned are going to stick with him, but even though there was civility, there wasn't any lock of zinc, marco rubio came in with great
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quips last night. >> i want to ask you, that's one of the rare areas where you really have some distinct differences with respect to how each of the candidates would have their administration, when you talk about the middle east and you talk about specifically israel, and it could be a high stakes gambit, if you will, to-- the idea that you were going through a negotiating process and an american would, treating israel, the israelis and the palestinians on the same level, how is that going to work? >> it's a distinction between trump and the three against trump. he's strongly on this issue saying he's going to remain neutral, not kind of side with the israelis, it's a strange stance for somebody who admires what he calls strong leaders to take. because prime minister netanyahu is nothing if not a strong, bullish leader and they would make a perfect fit. >> on the flip side of that trump has been saying, we've got to bat ten down on our
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trade policy and china, and we need china to rein in north korea, and 75% of north korea's trade is with china. you need to keep china in the wheel house. this is going to be really interesting, what's coming up at this press conference. >> go back to israel for a second and as someone who is jewish and strong israel supporter and a trump supporter, it's nuanced. it's one thing for rubio, cruz and kasich, cruz, made some comments throughout the campaign, new york values, and something about-- >> do you think that rubio senator from florida. >> okay, and the new york values, those were comments hit me and there's been a lot of discussion about this as anti-semitic. so trump is someone who is dramatic and gotten deals done. if you're going to negotiation and i'm 100% siding with one side you're never going to get
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anything done. they keep saying over and over again, it would be the toughest deal. >> in the same breath, he was right, right on the money when he said that the toughest deal anyone is going to strike, in the same breath, he said, oh, but i love israel and i was the grand marshal of-- that's not neutrality. >> he'll go into the negotiation, sorry. >> and we understand that's his starting point. one of the big knocks against president obama is we're at a point now, one of our allies trust us and we can't get the tribal leaders in the country that need to be on our side to crush isis because they think they'll come for six months or a year and retreat again. so essentially, is that the sort of confidence building that israelis need if they know that they're going to treat both sides the same even though israel has-- we understand the atrocities that have happened in israel. i think this week, there were some major atrocities, and
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shootings and murders and even of american tourists, so in this particular case, does that give israel less confidence in a donald trump? because he's already saying out the gate that he's negating to a certain degree all of the bad things that have happened. >> but he's not. if you listen to what he said in his speeches and during the debates, he's been strong and defined on the fact that israel has been hurt by the palestinians. his point is when you sit down for the negotiations which have to happen, again, i would love for the state of israel to remain exactly as it is, stronger and stronger and stronger, and see what is happening every day, you need a solution. from this point of view, to get to this solution, you need both sides to speak and also time. >> he said he would dramatically escalate the u.s. presence in the middle east, 30,000 u.s. troops on the ground to battle isis. >> let's hold on a second, we've got steve moore with us as well. he likes donald trump on the economic side. you haven't endorsed anyone,
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but you do like donald trump. and e-mack brought up china and trade and i think with you, this is a question, i want to ask you as an economic expert, you know, how do we go about this, a massive terrorist, most economists i know shoot it down saying it would be economic suicide for everyone. >> hi, charles. by the way, i like trump voters, i don't always agree with trump by any means. look, i think the area where i disagree the most with donald trump is on trade, charles. you and i are free traders. we know that when you bring terrorists down, it's a tax cut for the american consumer. i agree with john kasich and i agree with ted cruz that, you know, if you've got a level playing field, there's no question that america can-- >> how can you level the playing field? let's set it up for the audience though because i think there's a lot of hyperbolic misinformation out there.
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every single countries uses tariffs, chinas are higher than others and mexico, how do we play if we don't fight fire with fire. >> the answer to the question was ted cruz, i'm biased because i helped to write ted cruz's tax plan. you deal with this through the tax i am system. i think that ted did a pretty good job of explaining this. we have the dumbest tax system in the world. we tax what we produce, but won't tax what's imported and basically cruz would reverse that through a kind of consumption tax so basically when something is brought into the united states, there would be a tax imposed on it, call it a tariff or whatever you want, if something is produced and michigan here in michigan, indiana, california with american workers and there's no tax. that would level the playing field. >> all right, you're shaking your head. you're a wall street guy. what don't you like about what
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steve moore just said. >> i more what i like about what trump said. impose the tariffs. he's going to threaten the tariffs, and part of the negotiations, here is is how you do business right now. let's figure out how we get to fair trade and smart trade and lower your tariffs and given the currency. >>en you know, knowing china, you honestly believe that they're going to blink and say okay? >> i think that he's the only one that we have running for president. >> i don't, before you jump in, steve, i'll throw in my two cents. >> i honestly think that chinese leaders are fighting three fights, the stock market up, the currency up, and-- >> they have 3.3 trillion, an expensive battle, hey, let's put it on hold, guys, because donald trump-- you know what? we'll let him get set up and finish my point then real quick. the point is they're not going to blink and i think that the american public should
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understand, we may have to answer to a short-term trade war. which could mean-- >> there were a lot of good feelings in that room and i think it's something, frankly, that the republican party needed and today is something very, very special because dr. ben carson who is respected by everybody, everybody wanted his endorsement and everybody loves him and truly, truly admires what he's done. his life has been an incredible life, it's been an awe-inspiring life and i just want to tell you that, having his support really, i think, it adds just total credence to what i'm trying to do and to what we're all trying to do. so, i just want to introduce. doctor ben carson, special, special person, special man. thank you very much. [applaus [applause] >> thank you, donald. and you know, this whole
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process, getting involved in the political process was something that i never particularly intended to do, but you know, i listened to the people. it was really all about the people and it continues to be all about the people. you know, it's not about the republican party or the democratic party, it's about the people of america. and what i was-- have been seeing recently is political operatives and parties once again trying to assert themselves and trying to thwart the will of the people. i find that that is an extraordinarily dangerous place to be right now and you know, i want the voice of the people to be heard. i want the political process to play out in the way that it should play out and you know, i think the republican party, particularly, would be very wise, not to adopt, let's stop
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this guy and promote this guy policy, but rather, start thinking about what are the things that are going to be helpful for america? right now, you know, we're in a process of going off the deep end. we're going off the cliff for fiscally irresponsible, we're hating each other, we're destroying ourselves, a house divided against itself cannot stand. we're failing to take a leadership position on the world stage. now, some people have said, well, why, why would you get behind a man like donald trump? i'll tell you why. first of all, i've come to know donald trump over the last few years, he is actually a very intelligent man who cares deeply about america. there are two different donald trumps, there's the one you see on the stage and there's the one who's very cerebral, sits there and considers things very carefully, you can have a very
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good conversation with him. and that's the donald trump that you're going to start seeing more and more of right now. and some people said, but well, you know, he said terrible things about you, how can you support him? well, first of all, we buried the hatchet. that was political stuff and you know, that happens in american politics. the politics of personal destruction, all of that. it's not something that i particularly believe in or anything that i get involved in, but i do recognize that it is a part of the process. we move on because it's not about me, it's not about mr. trump, it's about america and this is what we have to be thinking about. i have found that in talking with him that, you know, there's a lot more alignment, philosophically and spiritually than i ever thought there was
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and he will speak to that, but you know, that actually surprised me more than anything because i do recognize how a person's image can be greatly distorted, having been the victim of that. i probably understand it better than anybody, and i think, as the american people, who we are focusing on, as they begin to see the real individual there, and those who are helping that individual, i think we're going to be comforted as a nation. you know, we have to start working together, we cannot allow the agents of division to continue to separate us, as a nation our strength is our unity. and we -- we just have to sort of ignore those people who are always trying to stir up strive and i'm appealing to some
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degree to the media as well. you know, you're part of america, too, and should be interested in strengthening our nation, not in creating divisions not in creting conflicts all the time. if we start having that american attitude, that american spirit that made us great, that took us to the pinnacle in no time at all, believe me, everybody will benefit from that. we're also talking about how can we make america a place that is successful for everybody. you know, we have 330 million people. we're going to be competing with china, with 1.4 billion, india, 1.1 billion. we have to develop all of our people. you know, the people who are the downtrodden in our society. we're not doing those people any favor by patting them on the head, there, there, i'm going to take care of your needs. what we need to do is concentrate on mechanisms to
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allow those people to climb out of the state of dependency and become part of the fabric and strength of this nation. that's what america is about. it's not about the tenancy and it certainly isn't about socialism. you know, socialism is seen as the panacea by some who don't really understand it. i think a lot of people think socialism is just being concerned about other people. that's not what it is. you know, it's cradle to grave government and you let them take care of you, but you give them all of your money, you have give them control of your life. they all ends up looking the same way, a small group of elites at the top controlling everything, a rapidly diminishing middle class and a vastly expanded dependent class. that is not what made america great. donald trump talks a lot about making america great, but it's not just talk, he means it. i'm going to be helping him, others are going to be helping him, you know, one of the things that i've discovered in
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this country is we have some incredibly smart people. none of us knows everything, but when we begin to use those smart people effectively to accomplish the goals of america, you're going to see us once again begin to ascend to the pinnacle, to a much higher pinnacle than we've ever achieved before and that's where america should be. thank you so much. [applaus [applause] >> thank you very much, ben. and ben and i were talking lengthily yesterday and it was an amazing conversation. one of the things that i realized is, his great love is education and he was telling me things about education and he was so right on and it was so good. it's such an important element for our country. and i said, ben, congratulations, you just have to get involved with us, with
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education, because our educational system in the united states, as you've heard from my speeches, we're ranked at the bots tomorrow of the pack worldwide and yet we spend the most money for people, by far the most money, second doesn't exist, so, ben is going to get very much involved in that and very much involved in health care where he's an expert, and even during the debates i'd always know ben when it came to health care and talking about health, ben was in really a class by himself. so, it's touch an honor to have ben, he's a friend, become a friend, and i really appreciate the endorsement, ben, thank you. [applause]. any questions, folks? >> yes. >> mr. trump. >> david. >> mr. trump, two questions, first of all, did you guys gently or formally apologize to each other for some nasty things on the trail? >> it's politics, it's tough stuff, it's a tough business. i used to think that real estate in manhattan was tough. this is like, it's a tough
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business this politics. a lot of things happen in politics that don't happen anywhere else, yeah, so we understand that. go ahead. >> secondly, so the question always comes up for an endorsement. had there been any discussion between the two of you, promises of positions for dr. carson in your administration, running mate-- >> it was lovely, when ben called, he didn't say would you do this or that, he just wants to help. you see the crowds that we get, crowds that are amazing, record setting, i don't think there's been anything like it, well, it's on the cover of every magazine, there's never been anything like it. ben sees that and ben is going to have a big, big part, i can tell you, maybe ben doesn't know this yet, but ben is going to have big part. we want to keep that kind of talent. >> do you see dr. carson as a policy role or a surrogate out on the campaign where you're not going.
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when he says there are two donald trumps, do you agree with that characterization. >> i probably do agree. i think there are two donald trump the public version and people see that and i don't know what they see exactly, but it seems to have worked over my lifetime. but it's probably different, i think, than the personal, donald trump. i think ben would say that. ben said it very well. so perhaps there are two donald trumps, but well, you know, i'm somebody that is a thinker. i'm a big thinker and i have my ideas and they're strong, and you know, typically they've worked out. and what i want to do, you know, the theme, and ben alluded to it, the theme that i have for this entire campaign is make america great again, that's what i want to do, very simple. i want to make america great again. we have so many problems, whether it's military, trade, borders, whether it's terrorism. we have so many problems, the debt, you know, you look at our debt. 19 trillion dollars going up to 21 trillion dollars in a very short fashion, so, we're going to straighten things out and going to straitsen them out.
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>> policy or politics for you? >> dr. carson's both, dr. carson is both. he's going to be on poly. ben was strong on policy. >> thank you, mr. trump. you've been talking about unity on the campaign trail and the debate last night. any outreach to capitols hill and ask you an islamic state question after that. >> we have been called by the biggest people in politics, not only republican politics, but also the biggest people in republican politics and over the last couple of weeks, you saw paul ryan reached out and terrific guy, i've always respected him and always liked him. not necessarily agree on everything, 'cause i'm very strong on borders and very strong on security, and i think paul, i think paul is, you know, i think he's going to have his views and i think probably certain things will change. but paul ryan reached out and we had a great conversation. and many other people at the top, top level.
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i sort of get a kick, i see you covering one person who is saying donald trump must be stopped. and i talked to them two days before and he said donald, we have to come together. we've been contacted by many of the biggest people in republican politics. >> professional lawmakers-- >>, but they're reaching out to us because they see what's happening. we're getting millions and millions of people, additional people, people that the republican party has never had before. it's the biggest story, i said it last night at the debate, the biggest story in politics is what's happening. we are having millions and millions of people come up and vote for the republicans, they get out, they register republican, and i've had so many people tell me i've never voted republican in my life, i left the democrats in order to register as a republican so i could vote for you. independents, democrats, and you see it, we're up 65%, more than that. millions of people more and that's what i'm saying. the republicans now want to embrace it. i see it. they want to embrace it. tom. >> i want to ask you about the islamic state.
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last night you talked about potentially sending up to 30,000, more troops than george bush-- >> we're going to get back real soon. we have to get rid of isis, it's up to the generals, but the generals are going to be able to play their own game. i want to find out we have the right general, then, right. we don't want to have the wrong general talking to us, but we're going to find the right general, right guy or person or woman. >> and prepare potentially for a long war. >> no, very quick, it's going to be very quick, we're powerful. we don't use our power. >> mr. trump, on the burying the hatchet deal with you and ben carson. you said that politics are rough. do you regret anything you said about dr. carson. >> i was thinking about it yesterday, i have respect for ben. the cnn poll came out 49-15, how do you like that ben, he wouldn't have been happy, but if you noticed during this whole thing, nationally, i'm talking about, because ultimately they say nationally
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there's support, ultimately i guess it's probably the most important so cnn comes out 49, a couple of days ago, 49 for trump and 15 for the two others, i think were at 15. and the one person that just kept sneaking up on me, i couldn't lose him was dr. ben carson. i could not lose that guy. and i was doing well, and you know, trump would be at 28 at that time and i remember whether it's 28 and ben was 18, and then he was 19, and the next week it was like 22, and i said, whoa, whoa, what is happening here? i don't like this, right? and then he was 24, and then i had a pretty good poll where i took a little lead in one, and, but then what happened is, it was, i believe, nbc, wall street journal who always gives me bad polls, by the way, always have bad polls. thank you for the nice thing you always say about me. you are so nice, thank you. sitting next to david. okay?
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thank you very much. always so nice. now she's going to be mad because she's embarrassed, but i want to thank you. so ben would always, like he'd be there and one poll ben went ahead, the biggest story worldwide. i said, this guy is unbelievable. and so, i started going after ben. and it's politics. ben understands that. and i was really impressed with the way he fought back, because he fought back with silence and strength. and i made a comment on it. and somebody else would have gone wild he has great confidence in himself and i was very, very impressed. it's true, the one person, i use the excompression, i couldn't lose him, couldn't shake him. he did so well and just go up, up, so steady, so solid, and i fought back and i hit him hard. and he-- which is politics and ben understands that and he understood that because i talked to him about it yesterday and he handled it
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with such dignity. i gained a lot of respect for him. >> on that point though, mr. trump, you talk about the two mr. trumps and dr. ben car sop said, when you say i want to punch a protester in the face, or dr. ben carson, is it just politics or you're playing a character there. >> no, it's politics and it's fact. let me tell you, we've had violent protesters. not just saying that these people punched, i get the biggest crowds by far, not even a contest, you people don't like to report it, one thing good about protesters, you have to go into these stadiums and these massive stadiums with 25 or 30,000 people and you have to at least the cameras never turn, hey, ben, the cameras never turn and show the stadium, i say turn and show when there's a protester in the corner that's great, the camera is there, because it's a negative as opposed to a positive so they turn.
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but we've had a couple that were really violent and the one i said i'd like to bang him, that was a very vicious-- a guy very loud and started swinging at the audience and you know what? the audience swung back and i thought it was very, very appropriate. he was swinging, he was hitting people, and the audience hit back. and that's what we need a little more of. i'm not just talking about a protester, but a guy who should not have been allowed to do what he did. if you want to know the truth, the police were very, very restrained. the police have been amazing, but the police were very, very restrained. okay. yes. >> mr. trump, did the rnc ever come to you and the debate-- no they didn't. >> why do you think it was? >> i think it was time. it was time. it was very substantive last night. i've said before, it was a very elegant debate, it was very
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substantive, it was very-- ben came in and said it was a beautiful debate last night. it's gotten great reviews, as a debate, i won't tell people that i won, even though i did win, let me just say. i refuse to say that "time" magazine, slate 84, fox 91% at fox, i don't believe it. new jersey.com, so, i mean, we had a debate last night and i think i did what i had to do actually, but, it was, i don't know, you know, we've had enough debates in my opinion. we've had these debates, they've been like vince mcmahon should have put them on because they were wwe. too much and i think that it really, i think last night was something that was very important, that it come off like that and we didn't speak-- and the candidates didn't speak about it, but it just sort of morphed into a very dignified debate. >> yes. >> mr. trump. >> go ahead, sir. >> you said in the debate last
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night you hadn't decided whether you're going to accept fund raising for the general election. >> accept what? >> raise money for the general election, if you go that route-- >> i don't think so, i wouldn't be taking money, if anything, the party would be taking money, i'm not going to take any money, i don't want money. the party might take money, that's up to the party, it's not up to me and it's something i haven't given much thought to. i have self-funded my campaign. i put in, i guess i'll be in for 50, 60 million dollars at a minimum. right, i am somebody that's a business person and even when i-- the money sort of irrelevant, but i have a natural instinct to be a little bit careful with money because that's the way i am, that's the way we have to be with our country. i expect to have, you know, tremendous amounts of money in this by the time we finish. i guess you would know better than me, 30 million, maybe more, but other people are in for 150 million dollars and they're nowhere. they're out of the race. so, i'm very proud of the race we've run.
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you know, somebody said, he's only been doing this for eight months, but i know the system better than anybody and the reason i know, because i was on the other side of the system when they talk about campaign finance laws, i know it much better and i know it from the real side not from the politician's side. >> mr. trump-- stand by the way. >> thanks, sir, i want to what tom asked about what dr. carson said
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elaborate a little bit on that. >> i will work with ben carson on so many different things. the thing that most impressed me, i know all about his views on healthcare. i always felt that he knew more about it than the other people on the stage. perhaps, he should. i was most impressed with his views on education. it is a strength. he will be involved with any aspect that he wants to be. >> i want to know more about the toned down version. with doctor carson. do you plan to tone down your
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performance is? >> i did not go there as a toned down president and whatever happens happens. you have to be able to swing with the punches. if i was hit, i would have hit back. there were those people that say it does not matter. let them call you names. let them do whatever you want. stand there and take it. nobody will be to you. do not do anything. i said i cannot do that. when somebody hits, i have to head back. i thought that everybody did well. i used the expression. i thought it was a very elegant debate last night. >> you said earlier you felt we have had enough debates. is your suggestion at this
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point, guys, we've had enough. >> how many times do you have to give the same answer to the same question? >> it would be a nice thing to finish off this one. >> it is just a really nice way to finish off your debate season. i do not think that there is any reason for the debates. the democrats are not getting ratings at all. our debates are getting very, very big ratings. you know, one of those things. i think we've had enough. the network very much well. >> it is a phrase that you have been using. you said embrace it to the republican party. as you move forward now, what
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are you going to do. will you find yourself surrounding? >> the republican party should come together and embrace these millions of people that are going down and voting. millions of people. no matter where it is. millions and millions of people. we have had some states of 102% from four years ago. 102%. it is really beautiful to see. these are people that have never voted. i am talking about 40, 50, 60, 70 years old. they have a trump shirt on. they have never put a political shirt on in their lives. they never have confidence in the people.
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literally, when i shake hands with people or when i signed autographs, people say i have never voted before, mr. trump. i am so proud to be voting. it has been an amazing thing. what i said to the republican party, i guess i used to be a member of the establishment eight months ago. i said, embrace it instead of fighting it. instead of fighting me like these people from club for growth, they asked me for $1 million. i said, who are they. i do not even know who they are. i said, well, let me think about it. i said, i am not going to waste a million dollars. they started doing negative ads. they started going negative on me. they are extortionists. i look on television and i see negative ads. you know, that is what you have.
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we should embrace the republican party. we will have a victory like the republican party has never had the for. i will win michigan. that is not in the playbook for the republican party. can you imagine if you win new york? florida, virginia, just go down the line. you have to win certain states. if you win one of them, it is over for the republican party. it is much more difficult for someone to get elected from the republican party. for me, 88 a lot of stakes. i own states that i will get states that art -- that art unbelievable. unthinkable for the republican party. we will embrace it. >> handling education for you.
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here in florida, a lot of people handling common core. how would doctor carson do something about the issues that a lot of people have? >> then knows. i think that then will do a tremendous service for helping the states. we want to see it. there is great love in education. instead of some bureaucrat in washington, you will do a lot better. okay. >> senate majority leader, mitch mcconnell. >> i have not yet. >> beside being vulnerable. running away from you if you were the nominee.
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>> i am sure that that will change. is that who you see uniting the electric. party leadership. >> a connection between the so-called leadership. i cannot define leadership. nobody knows what it is. the people to me are much more important. that is why i am standing up here today and other people are not. >> the republican party lost its way. certainly the last election they should have won easily. that should have been an easy victory. the republican party lost its way. the republican party now, something has happened. call it a miracle, call it
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whatever you want to. the millions and millions of people that are pulling to the republican party, these are people that are disenfranchised. people that have not had a pay increase in 20 years. people that have seen their jobs go to china into and to mexico and to japan and to vietnam and to every other country in the world but us. >> you get the general election. >> let me tell you about the democratic voters. i will tell you, one of the things that we will do is we will get so many democrats. it has already been proven. so many have, and signed registration forms. they left. you know, they had an expression.
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everybody out there is voting for you. i have a tough stance on crime. if it does come down to eight convention, what are you doing? >> i think we will do it without a fight. >> at the end of this should win. >> i am hoping to prepare. all higher should be great for me. they are losing tremendous numbers of job. i think i will beat john kasich.
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yes. he has been an absentee governor. chris christie's said absolutely john k said. different states. very big in south carolina. did not win in new hampshire. did not win in michigan. he said, i will win michigan. i thought he said, i thought he said if i do when michigan, i dropped out. i won michigan in a landslide. john has been, you know, not really there. he is very much in favor of transpacific hardener ship. any budget in the united states. higher than any budget.
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ohio will have a lot of problems. >> i did not know that there was a next debate. i dow we had our next ebay last night. >> the networks agreed to give all of their money to the wounded war years or to the veterans. the networks are making a fortune on these debates. >> have you been hearing mostly from republicans? >> i'd rather not say.
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i have been hearing from virtually everybody in the republican party. they congratulate me and say let's get together. these are very smart people. you know, you look at the polls. the people that work in the polling area has, they have been there for 20, 25 years. you go to nevada. standing in the place of nancy all morning long. yes, ma'am. go ahead. and on mac. >> how will you say you differ on trade and hillary clinton. >> she has no business.
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she does not have the energy or the strength to get the right trade deals made. they come at you in waves. they've wrapped them wrap them up then they put 12 countries and one. i want individual trade deals with individual countries. some deals we will make that will be so good. some countries treat us better than others. china will take advantage. believe me, they will come through the back door. they are watching it so closely. i have great respect for china. i am not angry at china, i am angry at our people. it is unsustainable. we will have great deals. we will become a rich nation again. we cannot afford anything. i will say social security. there are so many things that we can do.
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you are open to endorsing one of the two. >> first of all, we have a lot of excellent candidates. i think any of them could have done a fine job. one of the real fact errors for me is what will happen if we allow the political operatives to succeed in their endeavor to stop donald trump. i think that it would fracture the party. handed the election to the democrats. america would be forever changed. that is the big picture.
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it is a very big picture. it is not about me. it is not about mister trump. i feel that mister trump is willing to do what is needed to be done. breaking the string. >> what happened in iowa. i have completely forgiven him. that is a duty that one has as a christian. >> use that throughout your life god has led you to your most important decisions. this truly is an important decision. >> i have prayed about it a lot. i have gotten a lot of indications. i had this dream about you and donald trump. just amazing. i also, tend to think that the
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way god speaks to you. if we allow this attempt to disrupt the will of the people to be successful, it will fracture in and irreparable way. people who i personally believe will destroy our country. the reason i say that is because, you know, hillary clinton was a great friend. the first name basis when she was a student. writing the book rules for route of goals. i recommend you read it. i recommend you fundamentally change this nation. the great success that we have two a socialist country. dedicate to lucifer.
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the original radical that gained his own kingdom. i do not want anything to do with anything like that. >> if you have any kind of conversation with mister trump? did you have that with say, senator ted cruz? >> he did not specifically ask for and endorsement. he did apologize. he was not really aware with what was going on. >> why mister trump over ted cruz? >> a week over today, you will fault as a central focus for what i hear you saying is what motivated you to endorse him. it puts you where you are right now. >> it is about we the people.
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that is not going to be done through politics as usual. having the ability to listen. [inaudible] >> do you think people will be representative, you can help bridge the gap with evangelicals as well as people with color now that you are endorsing mister trump. >> mr. trump that will be on board with this to. things that are good for
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everybody. i think it is what we really have gone through. looking at what benefits all americans. creating that equal playing field. a quality opportunity. that is what we are looking to. it does not mean that we are not sensitive. we are very sensitive. we will be putting in things that will allow those people. mimi people have been placed in a position for generations. they will even recognize what is going on. we have to recognize that.
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>> i will let mister trump answer that question. >> do you see a future for yourself and politics? >> i am interested in saving america. my concern is our prosperity. we are destroying any possibility of the american dream for them. making america great. >> the one we see, does that worry you with the americans
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voters. whether it is religion. there is a different persona. donald trump is does not have the ability to listen and to take information in and to make wise decisions. you may get that impression from looking at debates and looking at some of the public appearances. a much more reasonable person then comes across. as you all know, the media, at a
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very skillful at obtaining people in certain ways. it may not be who that person is at all. spending all the time to change the media or they can just move ahead. i think he has just decided he will move ahead and focus his attention on the american people. not so much on the media. we will do some campaigning together, absolutely. >> last question. >> have you been promised a d.c. run. trying to make america great. that is the real key. as what is said i many, it is
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great. it is nowhere near as great as it can be. as a lot of the things that are in place and have been in place have led us to a place through incredible stagnation. we do not need to be there. if we begin to embrace those policies, creating the atmosphere. i do not think it will be that hard and i do not think that mister trump thinks it will be that hard either. >> have coffee and drinks. enjoy yourself. thank you.
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>> there you have it. doctor ben carson. donald trump, a surprise to him. enlightening him. also, the entire theme of this election. particularly out of the gop side. i immediately thought donald trump. apparently, all four did. ben carson taking as many questions as donald trump. i want to bring in our panel right now. steve, i want to go out to you. a lot of things hit me from this, from both gentlemen, if you will.
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he had that really terrible debate. i forget if it was the fox debate a few weeks ago. chris christiana scam. two months ago. the two candidates, and he said this in his press conference. the candidates that were at the top or donald trump and ben carson. they were the two outsiders. a real appetite among conservative voters. a nonpolitician. i do not think a trump carson ticket would need that at all.
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i think that that could be a real winner. >> healthy human services. what position do you think? a lot better with that speech. leaving as a campaign. you know, steve moore talked about the idea. the failings of the establishments. one of the things that we saw here is what was ben carson giving him some kudos. philosophically and spiritually. >> i think it is -- this is such a warning. i just thought, the unification that you see, you look at the
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people. the people getting a delegate cap back. i just really thought that everything that he said, that carson said was so resignation and passionate. i think, this is what we needed to see. the end to the end. charles: this certainly added a little to it. >> i am not about a hostile takeover. it could get dynamited out. they could lose their position. that, i think, is what is happening. they tend to be swing voters that have not been voting in swing states like pennsylvania or ojai ale. what he is saying is i see
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donald trump who is an attack dog. ben carson being pathological. being involved in an assault. forgiving him. that is a sign of strength. the trump campaign brought to a different level. meaning the negotiator, the guy who is more quiet. >> he was the campaign chairman for ben carson. unofficial or unpaid advisor to donald trump now. >> the senior advisor. >> you know, it was sort of a nailbiter. asking doctor ben carson over and over and over again. can you add to that?
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>> sure. 40% of the people were not republicans. they were independents or people new to the process. we just saw yesterday, 48,000 democrats already switched parties. the same thing is happening in ohio now. the two of them together can relate make it bigger for the party. it is just the establishment here in washington. >> the commonality. everyone thought that ted cruzan doctor ben carson shared a lot more with respect to religion. realistically, ben carson is saying this is about we, the people. we could actually argue that may be them that romney attacks on donald trump may have been a deciding factor.
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>> doctor carson is a true outsider. he is a treasurer. you look at his history. it is outstanding. the fact that he is where he is today is beyond all odds. i think that he could be a very powerful duo. >> let's bring in sandra smith. >> it was a different feel of the debate last night. that got a ringing endorsement for donald trump. here is doctor ben carson.
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seen as a very trustworthy, honest candidate. standing in front and endorsing donald trump. very believable. this is big. donald trump ringing him around more. you have chris christie. ben carson. this is interesting. charles: let's bring in her although rivera. >> he absolutely -- i have been so enthusiastic about donald
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trump. it is precisely because i believe that the person, the confrontational streetfighting donald trump ust in on the debate stage, not the guy that i have known. befriending each other back in 1975. that is now finally coming out. now he will be presidential. release the secret at the "new york times" editorial board. in that conversation, donald trump said, i will not do that.
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what do you think i am crazy. he said. i believe things that make people afraid that he is not a true conservative. >> if that is indeed the case, this groundswell of people that do love him because they are taking him at his word here and will he let them down? >> getting rid of all the illegal immigrants. and my sense, my feelings, when you become president, you govern from the center. you govern from the center. doctor ben carson has hit it exactly right. health and human services. not a great running mate. >> the leader of the evangelical
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wing saying, donald trump is now getting 30% of the evangelical vote. that evangelical voting for trump. guess what, they care about the economy. they care about abortion. >> exactly where carson's endorsement will have the biggest impact. he has doubts now for donald trump's feel. >> let me ask you, sandra. >> a lot of people going with donald trump. one of the reasons our job situation is the way it is because we do have so many illegals in the area. >> we do believe that we will deport them.
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this is the biggest thing. donald trump says what he means and means what he says. an attempt to follow through on that. i think we will disappoint. >> do not forget the aspect. when like it is never one before. you want to believe that this will be the best jobs president. they want to win. they do get that set up from him. he is winning in the polls. winning on the economy. >> put that message up against hillary clinton. >> let's listen to this. a lot of great soundbites.
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probably his best speech in the entire election. >> i will bring up the part. he talks about he and donald trump burying the hatchet. >> he is actually a very intelligent man that cares deeply about america. there is though one who is very cerebral. sits there and considers things very carefully. you can have a very good conversation with him. that is the donald trump that you will start seeing more and more of right now. >> he said terrible things about you, how can you support him? >> first of all, we buried the hatchet that was political stuff.
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that happens in american politics. >> barry, i do not know if you sat down with me when they got together or not. i know donald trump was asked during his press conference. he never really got around to answering the questions. on the other end of this, ben carson said if he did apologize to him, was there anything close to an apology when they met days to face? >> trump and ben carson? >> they admitted it was kind of mean. >> i do not think that the two are much comparable. saying something at a press conference versus trying to steal the vote are two different days. he thought that it was deceitful if not -- i think what we have seen in the last 24 hours in the
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campaign, which is pretty amazing, you look at the debate last night, donald trump is now looking presidential. that is a huge hurdle for a candidate to get over. people can imagine him standing in the rose garden. this race is over. >> her although, what do you think? a trump kasich ticket will be incredibly potent. winning against hillary clinton and cory booker. >> really? >> you said on varney that he would never be anybody. >> the guy that really knows the nuts and bolts of government. i think that trump could be a great leader, a great negotiator. palestinians and israeli ends to sit down. you will get that wall over
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there. what do you mean? , out-of-the-box. you can do it. i can see trump negotiating that deal. charles: the hardest out there. gone for a long time. >> 30,000 troops to fight isis. >> all in. i'm all in. >> even buying. >> i am a big supporter. >> my goodness. three years of cutting people's heads off. >> data has been going on a long time. absolutely right, sandra.
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occupying my goodness. >> chemical warfare. >> when he was addressing the two donald trumps, the other that he has gotten to know, my former pediatric neurosurgeon said that when he finally gets to sit down and talk to donald trump, he is cerebral. when he was asked by a reporter this morning, ben carson, when he was asked why he did not decide to support ted cruz, trump was willing to do what needed to be done. take it however you will. >> what is trump willing to do that no other candidate is? >> he is not a politician. he will upset this town.
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that is exactly what ben wants. >> we have a number of states primaries on tuesday. ohio coming up. ohio has not picked the wrong presidential candidate. that thing where trump is going to be an issue is trade policy. we know that our companies export a bot into china. china is selling u.s. treasuries. popping its own currency. that is dangerous. our housing market is recovering. it could dump in a trade war with trump. who knows. if that is an issue, our companies that export into china, a lot of the companies are in ohio and the swing states. >> 54 billion ways.
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>> steve moore. if we go into this with china, you would suspect a lot of those jobs would be gone. sitting around and waiting for jobs to come back. >> somewhere between 20-25% of manufacturing jobs. we talked about this earlier. they are stealing our intellectual property. that is what we produced in america. information. >> should we tear up nasa? >> donald trump says go back and renegotiate country by country by country.
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>> i think that it has worked out pretty well from canada and mexico and the united states. >> it is interesting. >> the conception. it is a good paying. in 1994, we had a surplus. now, it is 530 trillion. you'll look at a lot of charts. deficits go up. there is nothing wrong with it. >> i think that this is what some of these other candidates are saying. it is the way we deal with that. we have to get the regulations off the back. we have to control america.
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we have to drill for our own oil. >> i will propose. that is a negotiation. >> i agree. during the 30s, we went to terrorists. i am saying that it is a dangerous point. >> my chinese dollar is worth 10 u.s. dollars. something like that. i manipulate my own currency. what i am selling is cheaper for you. i am suppressing my currency. that is what he is talking about. >> i will just chime in one second. big ecb went to a- 1% on deposit
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rates. manipulating big euro. our federal reserve printed three trojan dollars worth of money. it is not illegal. maybe they are doing a better job benefit than we are. >> i said this earlier in the show. every country has terrorists. china's are the highest. even we have terrorists. >> we have seen a lot, though. >> tokyo is not really the issue right now. nasa being signed, we had an agreement. the truck drivers are like this is nuts. okay, we will not do it.
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an american driver, pick that stuff up. mexico imposed tariffs on us. there is no doubt the use of tariffs is an effective weapon. if we go down that path, jobs will be lost. >> did you buy the premise that donald trump has been greedy for himself. it can be ran as a business. the head of this gigantic corporation. already so successful. he has been greedy and business. that is your personal opinion. i go back to this.
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>> do you disagree with this? >> he describes himself as greedy. >> anyone that invest in him and his business. some see that as greedy. >> maximized profit. >> remember those days? >> to that point, once again answering her all those question. this is something you have talked about for years. i wanted a businessman to be in office for a long time. you have to be there. >> totally agree with you. geraldo, you are exactly right. he is not aore of doctor ben carson's endorsement of donald
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trump. will it help trump sway black voters? that is next. >> the media is very skillful at obtaining people in a certain way. that person can spend all of their time trying to change the media or they can just move ahead. just decided to move ahead and focus the attention my dad gave me those shares, you know. he ran that company. i get it. but you know i think you own too much. gotta manage your risk. an honest opinion is how edward jones makes sense of investing.
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>> god has led you to your most important to session. god leads you to donald trump. >> i prayed about it a lot. i got a lot of indications. people calling me that i have not talked to in a long time. i had this dream about you and donald trump. i come up also tend to think it is giving you wisdom. that wisdom says to me, if we allow this attempt to disrupt the will of the people to be successful, it will fracture the party in an irreparable way. >> elizabeth mc donald. what do you make of that? >> will it bring out the african-american vote? it feels like an emotional pull. talking so real about their
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spiritual values. it does not work. there is this whole thing about what donald trump is saying about the campaign trail. you can say about it things about the campaign trail. truthful hyperbole. that is what donald trump himself used. it all sounds and feels good and great and positive right now. when it comes down to it -- charles: part of the whole thing, though. make us feel good and positive. you are a very religious person. i hope it stays in the forefront. i think it is important if we turn this country around. believing in god. >> even talking to democrats. teachers faculty lounge output
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from the president. did not make us feel great. >> all right. let's stay with doctor ben carson. come on in. the big question a lot of people are saying, we have a very prominent lack person here endorsing donald trump. the media says -- >> full disclosure here. directly answering your question. i think there is a quiet revolution taking place in black america. just next door to where donald trump and ben carson.
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a big city failed democratic mayor. she is going to whip him and she is going to whip him badly. becoming the detroit of south florida. across black america. running for congress, i believe. a number of black republicans and a number of lack independence that will vote republican this time around. >> sometimes the media are pundits separating black people from others. everybody wants to go and pay money. send their kids to college. it almost appears weird to me. black people to your point are as frustrated as white people are.
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it will really harp on some of the things with donald trump. they will not let that go. i would like to see him address as well. it becomes the republican nominee. we have the ability to really reshape the lack world map. if you get somewhere between 10-15% of the black vote, states like new jersey, pennsylvania, all of these states come back into play. they are taken off the battlefield. that is the potential there. i agree with you. they have got to confront the issue of rape. do not try to out liberal the liberals. coming head-on and asking black
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charles: donald trump repeating his tough stance on immigration. >> make america great again. that is what i want to do. whether it is military, trade, porters, terrorism. we have so many problems. going up to $21 trillion. we will straighten things out. charles: all right. donald trump stepping to his big things. one of the biggest is the way we compete in a global economy is hurting our economy. >> that is the most appealing saying. the country's biggest union will
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launch its internet ads. we will see that coming into play. speaking of that, we have new reports with the call mining industry. it is a mining town deeply impacting these cuts. about 7000 coal mining jobs. this is 800 feet below the earth's surface. we used to have roughly 640 coal miners based out of 220.
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we spoke to a coal miners still working. here is what he told us about the future. >> i have plans that have been laid out. trying to get jobs. they work for a wild. they are making things to come back. hopefully it welcome back. our keys or our community. >> a question that we cannot answer here. a hazardous boat and the surrounding area. roughly nine-point read present. looking very bad. >> thank you very much. it has been a disaster. barack obama promised us that it would be. he kept that one promise.
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the 16 investing does not have to be fancy. have you been to home depot? you probably have the visa card. let's take a break from republicans. painting herself as a very likable candidate. bernie sanders needing to lighten up the democratic side. i have known him for 20 years. working with him on wall street issues a lot. i think hillary clinton is
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well-known to the whole country. >> the establishment side. ruining the democratic part. he certainly has taken his fair share of shots out wall street. this point where someone that you happen to like. wanting to be the nominee. come november, there will be a lot of excitement. the difference is significant. modest between the difference between the democrat. there will be a lot of excitement on the democratic side. >> it solidifies donald trump.
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12 million votes for the republicans so far. where is that enthusiasm coming in. hillary clinton may be confident, but she is not exciting at all. >> at the end of the day, hillary will be our nominee. i like bernie as an individual. i have always thought, well, eventually, hillary will be the nominee. you will have a much higher turnout on the republican side. i have been running for office for a long time. you can talk about it all you want. the fact is, we will be there turning out in november. i want to talk foreign-policy.
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donald trump says we will build a wall. we will make china and mexico playfair. what is your take. >> well, my take is we do need it. i am glad that hillary has come out against ddp. i think that that is the first step. we have to crawl out of this hole. we need somebody with a steady hand running the foreign-policy of the united states. i do not think markets, business or foreign leaders, friend or foe, will have any idea what donald trump may save from day to day. the only thing we know for sure is that he will say it loudly. >> thank you very much for appearing on the show. >> thank you. one of the major states voting on tuesday. trump continued dominance
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creating a divide in the party. former presidential candidate. what are your thoughts on what is happening with the deep. >> i think that the race is still very much open. having to vote starting tomorrow. looking forward to tuesday and beyond. i think that it is a mistake to say we know what the outcome will be. that is the view across the parties. i think that it is still very competitive. i do not hide the argument that a competitive nomination progress is weaker in the fall. i think that it is stronger if everybody in the parties says look we are prepared to unite around the nominee. from the time that you are kind enough to mention i thought about running myself. i said i would support the parties nominee.
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that is where mine is. let's see how this plays out and then figure in cleveland. >> there is a contested convention. they would never vote for donald trump. is the party set up for some kind of disaster, for lack of a better word? >> they said that about other candidates, two. he runs a poster from britain in world war ii, frequently. i think that that is worth considering here. keep calm and carry on. time and energy that people spend. it is time and energy that they are not devoting to making sure that the outcome does not happen. that is what they ought to be doing.
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i think when you compare the outcome to what brad sherman just said and hillary clinton being the nominee on the other side, really, please, do we really think that hillary clinton will be preferable? i really don't. thanks a lot. charles: let's get back to the market shares. the dow up 209. maybe to 14, two team. you say there is little to no growth in this market. you look long-term. >> the market looks pretty bleak here. it was really a big warning sign. 200% rise. the markets you saw keep going up. they concern the average investor. avoiding volatility at this point.
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>> getting to your point. going up 200% in a short period of time. that was one of the biggest market collapses. certainly, we were oversold. this is a certain equilibrium? do people invest in anything here? >> look what happened long-term. well folks really need to be concerned about, especially your viewers is how to get a yield of five-6%. if they can average back, we will have the markets in the next five or 10 years. a compounding issue here as well. if you look at what is happening to the s&p, more companies are using more of the earnings to invest in their dividends. at some point, we will pay the price for that.
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>> we have seen over and over again historically where that happens. thanks. we appreciate it. >> something a little different from the campaign trail. ending up in a test cruz that after the break. why she is now actually a supporter of donald trump. >> does that make you angry? >> it makes me feel dumb for trusting him. >> do you guys have room for one more? ♪ cialis for daily use is approved to treat both erectile dysfunction and the urinary symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently, day or night. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medicines, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, or adempas for pulmonary hypertension, as it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. do not drink alcohol in excess. side effects may include headache, upset stomach, delayed backache or muscle ache. to avoid long-term injury, get medical help right away
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>> i have. the job opportunity. we assume because you are in it, that is who you are leaning towards. what is the attraction of donald trump? >> first of all, i was in the test cruz. i am not an adult actor. i have only done rated r. always leaning towards that candidate. trump was always someone that i definitely had my eye on. over the course of the last few months, i think it had been pretty good company today. charles: it has been an excellent day. how did that whole thing go until then? >> i am an actress.
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i got a call to go to an audition. i knew that it was going to be for a republican candidate. i liked what it had to say. when i got to the actual shoot that day, it was for ted cruz. i do not think people realize we do like six commercials. some very long commercials. i did not just have that one line. i kind of liked that line. not just pretty face or pretty hair. it was a job did it was something that i definitely believed in, as far as the conservative republican candidate. >> the media, i guess, and just the way i introduced you, considering a adult film star or meat -- maybe even soft corn star, i guess some of the titles
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led them to believe that. >> well, they are rated r. that is absolutely fair. >> no, there is not. there's nothing wrong with being a schoolteacher either. i just want people to know what it is that i do and who i am. for me, there is a difference. i just wanted to make sure that people knew that. >> we think left. far, far left. a lot of folks in california, donald trump mentioned it this morning. a lot of hollywood people plan to blow for donald trump. whether they admit it or not is one thing.
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we try to be polite about social media. politics. sex, religion. sometimes it is just best to not go there. i was forced into speaking about it. there are so many of my friends. there is a gay republican group that i go to. i live in west hollywood. there are people like that. not even the hollywood community that will be voting for donald trump. people will be surprised that the support that he does have. they are kind of causing that. the lat i last i hope that the phones start ringing off the hook for you. >> think you so much. >> we will see you again soon. the cleveland brown's just released quarterback. after two disappointing seasons. mandel faces an unknown future.
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>> to top executives. now out of a job. gerri willis, what happened? >> let me give you the name of these fellows. these two fellows essentially taking money from the pockets of veterans families, people giving to veterans. about 90% of the money. disabled american veterans. 96% of the budget goes to veterans. 91% goes to the veterans. similar charities. wounded warrior. only 60% went to the veterans. their budget in 2015.
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lavish consequences. in 2010, they spent 1.7 million on conferences. they did them at, you know, five-star hotels. you know, these were teambuilding exercises. the one they did in jacksonville, very nice. you must come and stay. this was so defense if. such an inoffensive thing towards the viewers out there. rappelling down the side of a building. this was really about building his own profile.
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i went to his link dan page. an entire career in managing these non-for profits. that is what he is all about. out of control. >> it is heartbreaking. really, really heartbreaking. it blows you away. >> you know the ads that we have. $19 a month. the people that are out of here are people who have veterans and their families. that is the tragedy. >> tanks a lot. take a look at this. a few stocks remaining. >> the great story. they have been hammered. a little green on the screen.
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>> look at that big board. that's what we call a rally. 18 points. not a bad way to episode the weekend, huh? >> yeah. green on the screen. and green, did you know that neil cavuto is half irish? that's the part of him that knows how to tell jokes. >> well, speaking of which. neil cavuto. is that like donald trump with two donal donald trumps? . neil: well, i'm telling you there's enough room of levity among all people. very good analysis on your part, lizzie as always.
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charles, you're not so bad yourself. thanks for all of your help yesterday. we're looking at something that certainly puts smiles on folks' faces. better than 219 points. oil the big catalyst here. up again. but the growing sentiment seems to be that we have easily absorbed the blows out of europe. the fact that they can't get their act together. and we do seem to be benefiting now. we were down about 1% going
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