neil cavuto is half irish? that's the part of him that knows how to tell jokes. >> well, speaking of which. neil cavuto. is that like donald trump with two donal donald trumps? . neil: well, i'm telling you there's enough room of levity among all people. very good analysis on your part, lizzie as always. charles, you're not so bad yourself. thanks for all of your help yesterday. we're looking at something that certainly puts smiles on folks' faces. better than 219 points. oil the big catalyst here. up again. but the growing sentiment seems to be that we have easily absorbed the blows out of europe. the fact that they can't get their act together. and we do seem to be benefiting now. we were down about 1% going into trading today. so any gain is good at this

point would be good enough for a four straight week of advances. so we'll see that as a week that started off anything but promising. we'll see. now to politics. you've had about the big ben carson endorsement but in the middle of that is some concerns out of the marco rubio camp that now has prompted them -- well, to do some explaining. blake, what's the latest? >> yeah, neil, this is something we talked about a couple of days ago. what exactly marco rubio supporters should do in ohio whether they should vote for him or whether they should vote for john kasich. let's step back a couple days here. marco rubio has been trying to make the case that a vote for john kasich or a vote for ted cruz in florida, essaying is essentially a vote for donald trump in florida. well, the 180-degree flip of that is if you're rubio supporter, should you then go vote for kasich in ohio? because then a vote for rubio or cruz in ohio is a vote for trump. marco rubio was asked just

that just minutes ago. he is stumping in florida. he is at a temple in west palm beach area. and rubio essentially did not discourage the concept voting instead of for him, for john kasich in ohio if it means stopping donald trump. take a listen to the senator just a moment ago. >> if the voter in ohio is motivated stopping donald trump and john kasich is the only one to beat him there,. >> so the take away here the senator is not saying, look, if you support me, go invoke veto for john kasich in ohio. but he's not discouraging that if it is in the name of stopping donald trump. the case he's trying to make in florida now somewhat working against him in ohio. neil. neil: thank you very much. in the meantime what to make of these cross currents the same day ben carson announcing his support for donald trump. we have former bush 43 chief of staff andy in with us right now. anderson would he be it's sort of like the establishment in a

way wrestling with itself over this do we? don't we? do we get in bed with donald trump? do we hold off doing that? do we do everything in our power in states like ohio? and florida? to keep this running? what do you make of it all? >> well, first of all, it's still a political process and sometimes it doesn't look very pretty. and it's followed into a trap right now where we're focused on the inside game. i do think that, you know, marco rubio -- i think he deserves to have a chance to win his home state. i'm kind of referring to the him to win his home state. the same thing with john kasich. in terms of picking a president, we are ticking picking a president so i don't want people to send a message or to vote somebody off of reality tv show or something like that. . neil: but that's what they're doing. that's what they're doing. right if you buy at face value what they're saying, i'll be between the lines marco rubio saying, yeah, by all means vote for kasich in ohio. by all means vote for me in florida.

there by slowing the momentum of a donald trump toward the nomination. it is -- mathematically it make sense. i understand your thoughts here but what do you make of the message it's sending donald trump supporters? >> well, first of all, the process is a long way from being over. neil: you're absolutely right? >> 1237 votes yet. so i don't discourage people who still think they have a chance to win to see if they have a chance to win. so it's before the florida primary. marco rubio should be working hard to win his home state. before the ohio primary. john kasich should be working hard to win his state. i don't fault a candidate for having strategies that would suggest that it might be good for you to help the front-runner stumble so that i could have a better chance of standing even though i may not be the person who i would like to see a vote for if you're going to help me have a better chance later on, go for it. so this is all part of the political process, and it's not that ugly. neil: no. you're absolutely right.

i know how it goes. the noble thing i wouldn't necessarily agree with. but let me ask you about jeb bush. now, he met with all the candidates not named trump. i don't know how much weight or endorsed in flump if it came to that. but does he risk looking by not even meeting with trump? >> i'm not sure i would go that far. donald trump has said some pretty ugly things, not just about jeb, but he said them about george w. bush and wyatt frankly i'm offended by many of the things he has said about george w. bush. and his rhetoric doesn't reflect reality. and it doesn't even reflect smart people who were objective said about the bush . neil: look what he said ben carson. along comes bee ben to endorse him today and chris christie. is it all politics in the end? and if that's the case, can you imagine jeb bush -- can

you imagine jeb bush endorsing donald trump if he were the nominee? >> i think it's too early. i think it's still raw in what happened to him and what donald trump said about his brother and probably even about the family. neil: yeah. >> so i do there's some lingering angst there and, look, i love jeb. i happen to love the bush family. they're probably the most will noble, political family in the country right now and have been for a long time. so i respect them and very appreciative of the call to noble service that they ring out for everyone to recognize. and this hasn't been the most noble of campaigns. and i think that sometimes it's embarrassing. neil: you know, you're part of the evil establishment. you realize that. >> i plead guilty although i think that i am trying to do it as best for the country. and i do think governors make better presidents than senators or ceos. and that's just because governors have had to have the tough reality of trying to lead legislative bodies to get

things done, which is what a president has to do. and they have to speak to an audience that represents everyone. not just people of one philosophical or partisan persuasion. neil: you know, and i was thinking of you when i was chatting with neil bush earlier this week with the big races going on. and he is supporting ted cruz. and when i asked him. >> yes. he is. neil: and i asked him did you bounce this off the family? he said "no." he told fox business, us first. which is obviously a very good strategy. talk to fox business before you talk even to family. but having said that -- >> i try to follow that myself. neil: were you surprised by that? >> i was a little bit surprised. i wasn't really surprised that neil came out for ted. neil: yeah. >> i was surprised that he didn't talk to his family first. but in any rate, the bush family understands what it means to participate in the political process in a noble

and inviting way and be constructive. and i think that's what neil is doing. he gives -- the bush family is not as -- you know, they don't have a great discipline within their family. you've got to do what we say or you've got to do what we do. but they are wonderful at understanding the value of communications and love. and i guarantee what neil did did not diminish the love that anybody in the bush family has for him. neil: i thought he was taken out of the thanksgiving dinner this year or something like that. maybe not. >> no. not at all. neil: maybe not. if i can -- the view of the establishment, again, i know i throw that term at you. but i do it out of respect for you because i think all sides agree that you're pretty class act individual with enormous integrity. but that demeanor is going to be called on as we get closer to the convention; right? donald trump trying to appear a little bit more presidential, even with this announcement with ben carson today he showed some signs of that last night in the debate as someone who is spoken -- and i don't care whether you're on the right or left.

the need for civility in political discourse. were you encouraged? are you encouraged by what you're seeing? >> well, i do acknowledge the reality that -- as soon as it appears you are truly on a path to be president of the united states, you start to think more responsibility -- more responsibly about what it means to be a president. and that means you have to be careful with the words that you use. you cannot be hav vitriolic, i used to say taste your words before you spit them out. a president has to do that, and i think donald trump is realizing it might be a real thing that he could be the president of the united states. he exercises more prudence in how he discusses things. that doesn't mean he has to give up his grounding and not be candid but be prudent in your words and how they're heard in people that don't understand our system or people not in the united

states that may not realize the real responsibility that the president has. i was privileged to work for three presidents in the white house. i saw how difficult the job is and how important it is that the president have the encourage to make brutally tough decisions that may not be popular, but they're right for the country. so i don't like an invitation to kind of guide a president to a policy. i like to have prudence and judgment and kind of peripheral vision to best to lead. not only the leader of the united states but leader of the world. and that's what presidents have to do today. neil: so old-fashioned. let me ask you in all seriousness. ben carson i found intriguing in his remarks today that he thinks donald trump too boisterous, loud, in your face thinker, privately. obviously donald trump was trying to say the same. that he's more pragmatic and

understanding. thoughtful than people assume. do you see that a lot when you work for presidents of all types? do they have that persona in public and one that might be very different in private? >> we have clearly seen that sometimes in the past. the presidents i served for, i did not find that they were, you know, one thing with the doors shut and somebody else with the door open. so that's not what i witnessed when i served president reagan and president george h, bush and president george w. bush. i saw sincere values that they lived 24/7. but i'm sure there have been presidents that were one thing with the doors shut and something else with the door open. neil: lbj comes to mind. richard nixon. >> there are others as well, yes. neil: see? even in the end when i try to get you to say something bad about something, you don't take the bait. >> i will say this about donald trump.

he has -- he has the encourage to be optimistic every day. i believe he wakes up every day as an optimist. and that's important for a president to be. neil: very good. >> to make extremely difficult decisions because i don't want them to be a pessimist when they walk to work. neil: well, put that happen memo terry audio bump. good to have you. be well. >> thank you very much. neil: well, marco rubio is in a bit of a sticky wicked here. did he actually say this political gamesmanship where you vote for one guy in one state, another guy no state as long as it's not donald trump in any state? did he reveal himself to be a crafts operation or a very, very shrewd operator?

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>> voter in ohio is motivated by stopping donald trump and comes to the conclusion that john kasich is the only one who can beat him there, then i expect that's the decision they'll make. i can tell you in florida i'm the only one that can beat donald trump and whether someone supports ted cruz or john kasich, if you vote for them in florida, you're voting for them in donald trump. and if the voter reaches the same conclusion in ohio, then i think that's what they're going to do as well. neil: all right. i want you to hear how artfully he expressed that. marco rubio saying vote for me in florida. you would be dividing your vote and handing in donald trump otherwise. vote for john kasich if your heart so compels you in ohio because you would be dividing the vote -- and handing it to donald trump in another case. now, he's being very pragmatic and political about that stating the obvious that if you want to stop donald trump, the best way you do that is see to the number one guy who is an alternative to donald trump in each of those states.

florida, and now it appears to be marco rubio in ohio, it appears to be john kasich. former rnc spokesperson. you know, if you think about it, he's not saying anything that we don't know. i just find it intriguing that he just said it out loud. >> yeah. i mean i don't know, neil, if i can ever remember previous presidential campaign where you had a candidate saying vote for somebody else. and that's okay. i don't know that i've ever heard that. neil: it struck me when i first -- the strategist was the first one to put it out earlier this morning. >> yeah. neil: and i thought it was smart. i know what they're up to. if you want to stop donald trump, that's the best way to do it. but it does get back to the notion we're all playing political games here truth be told. >> well, i think it gets back to the notion that i think many people will find unsaviorry shall we say of this idea instead of winning your campaign, you're trying to stop somebody else from getting the nomination. and there are a lot of trump supporters who i don't think

are going to take to that kindly. donald trump will take that up. it may work, it may not. we'll see if this strategy works. but ultimately it's not a strategy that marco rubio can take forward. it will help trump but not help him get the nomination. it may help trump but not help john kasich get the nomination. it's probably the biggest benefactor would be ted cruz out of all of this. neil: so ted cruz wish to make himself the defacto soul loan alternative to donald trump. that could bust that. but the benefits of ted cruz would be then that it stalls donald trump and the 1237 he needs; right? >> it may be. and a lot of rumors flying this morning that the cruz people have pulled their ads out of florida because they're going to let marco have it there. neil: i think they were eating each other alive, which is the part of the race that i most enjoy.

because it's like they're on a island and haven't eaten in a while and they're starting to eat each other. >> maybe we should have called this survivor 2016. neil: bingo. bingo. brilliantly played. >> but, you know, here's what's unfortunate to me. last night watching that debate as somebody who cares about issues, that was a pretty substantive debate. we found it where people were on trade, we found it where they were on cuba policy, isis, we found out what they thought about long-term spending social security, that was probably the most substantive debate we've had on issues. part of that there were a lot fewer folks there now. neil: yeah. >> but i wish people could vote based on what they heard candidates say last night not if we block here, they could get ahead here. but that's where we are at this point. neil: here's what bugs me about the debate last night. donald trump called it elegant. now, when fox business did the debate he said we were elegant. so obviously now i think so jake tapper elegant.

you can only have one elegant player and i prefer to be that player. so i have to talk to him about that. >> thank you. neil: let's take a pick at the dow. right now up 224 points, i believe these are session highs, 17,217 and a little change. it looks like we are en route to our fourth consecutive up week and the dow that was down north of 4% for the year close to being even stevens for the year. a long way from calling this a rally in the bull market territory from where we are. but, you know, we still have a bull market, don't we? that's over seven years old. some perspective after this

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neil: all right. the president of the united states some has explaining to do, and he has about an atlantic article in which he kind of blamed the british and more to the point mr. cameron for the deteriorating conditions in libya early on that it was the british not paying nearly enough attention despite his processionations and warnings.

now the white house is coming out once those blushes appeared in public saying president obama has acknowledged several times the shortcomings, the allies have regarding chaos in libya. but by no meaning was he blaming the prime minister of britain. he goes on to say he did not mean be critical of the british prime minister in this article. and more or less saying much to do about nothing. but i've got to tell you. if you read the london press abroader, they're not having any of it. this is a down dirty shame and we're not believing a word he's saying. that's what they said i just put an accent on it. we're going to get to other stuff, but, john, i've got it tell you. they're caught in a bind here because all of a sudden this article comes out, throws them under the bus, they don't like being under the bus. >> yeah. not them. not the british, neil, nor any of our other allies that he assaulted in this interview. i mean the narcissism of the

man is just unbelievable. and impossible for me to believe that a sitting president bush, his father, even a president clinton wouldn't have engaged in this kind of extended monologue about their great doctrine and their great accomplishments in foreign policy all the while trashing our allies through the mud. just really horrible and a real disservice to our national interest. neil: now, i don't know where you stand left or right on the issue but i always tell viewers we're either exceptional country or we're not. leader of the free world or we're not. we're either the one in charge of calling the tune for the foreign policy or we're not. the article impose on to tell details of others who missed the insight here. essaying it can't be us because we're not in that role. they have more influence, and they should have done more. he's seeding that american

exceptionalism in practice and words. >> yeah. and what he's leaving of course is a huge vacuum that rather being replaced by some kind of virtuous cycle of peace in which the saudis or the iranians or even the british and french step up and impose some kind of minimal level of mobility and decency on the international order, that vacuum is being filled by all the worst elements and advisories we have in the international system from through your china to iran -- neil: and, by the way, to your point and you were way ahead of this, john, i don't want to put you on the spot. even the most liberal leaders abroad had been urging more dramatic and decisive action in the region. he more or less is saying in this article, no, it was their botching it. not me. >> yeah., and he's saying, you know, the fact that we've got half a million debt in syria that europe is now undergoing its worst refugee crisis in

more than two generations. neil: he drew that line. he drew that line. they didn't. >> of course he drew that line about now he says the fact that he didn't cross it. that he pulled back after telling the rest of the world that we were going to strike syria if it ever used chemical weapon. now he sees that as one of his proudest moments in international affair. it's mind-boggling. neil: we'll have more on the international press and, john, to make you feel better about this, eyeing doing all of them with a british accent. >> terrific. neil: can you believe that? i mean holey cow. we have a lot more, including a peek at the dow now up 218 points. oil is moving north. but here's what's remarkable. mentioning the papers and got negative interest rates and all of this other nonsense. but here's the killer of that. where does money go every time something erupts? here. when the world is nervous, where does it go? when other markets are deteriorating, what securities do they buy? ours. that, my friends, is called

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here and here he is between the ladies. >> guess who was on the factor last night? >> what is that? >> me. >> i wonder if anyone knows who that is. neil: it's always about you, isn't it? [laughter] what do you think? i mean -- i have my buddies here, dagen now and then and connell mcshane. >> always here. neil: what do you think of this? >> i'm uncomfortable. we were watching part of it in the greenroom with the way he's sitting on the couch. neil: very arrogant. he's like king tut. he even shaved for this. >> he's leaning back. neil: ladies, i don't know -- >> he needs to put his knees together and he's leaning back. i'm waiting for him to start rubbing his belly. >> that's what it looks like every day at the cavuto house. but i'm just telling you david asmand says he wasn't thinking briefly when he made a slight -- >> it happens. neil: hours after a great

performance, you know, primary night. and he ceases on that to glom onto fame. and of course you do it all the time with riley and other big shows; right? >> no. i -- neil: you have no discretionallism. >> well, i -- neil: you're taking his side? >> pretty much. connell: on fox news with you. but none of the other stuff. >> i was on for the first time in a long time last night. so i was really excited excited about that. neil: clear with anybody? >> yes. neil: opposite kennedy. >> i clear -- neil: what were you saying to kennedy? >> i cleared it. neil: who did you clear it with? >> it was cleared by the people. neil: you didn't clear it with anyone. oh, really? the people? we're going to move on here. and gasparino when you take yourself off that set, we're. in the meantime a little bit of sort of craft politics revealed. marco rubio saying you know what? if you think it's wise to vote for john kasich in ohio to

stop trump, it's no different -- i'm paraphrasing here, and i think i saw through the lines here. just like to vote for me in florida to stop donald trump. splintering out your is not the way to do it. what do you think? he was just staying the obvious. >> i know but still -- if trump -- it comes down to the point if trump cannot win florida and ohio and now with kasich had the lead in one of the latest polls that came out this last week, it makes it very difficult for trump to get to that 1237. neil: so he's just stating the obvious. >> he can still do it, but it makes it super tough for him. neil: do you think? >> well, it's a tough ask for people. we're all going to sit around, oh, the 1237 and if he -- like a normal person going into a voting booth in florida. maybe some think that way, but i think a lot of people pick out the candidate who would make the best president. and i think that's why ted cruz is marco rubio's biggest

problem in florida because he chose to go in there and compete. neil: or marco rubio might be john kasich's problem in ohio. >> i think -- neil: what did she i want you guys to react to this. because he tried to clarify it right after his initial statement. i don't know if this did you go him in deeper. marco rubio. >> are you going for john kasich? >> i've never talked to john kasich about this. you asked me a question, i'm giving you my observation. clearly john kasich has a better chance of winning ohio than i do. and if a voter in ohio concluding that voting for john kasich is the best chance to stop donald trump there, i anticipate that's what they'll do. neil: so that's what he's saying. anyway i can slow this guy down and stay relevant is the way to do it. and i would be thinking the same if i were a politician; right? >> he's already lost relevancecy in this race. neil: how do you know that? they're not voting until next tuesday. >> it's florida and the likelihood of him winning his home state.

neil: we don't know that. >> you look at the map of the counties these -- neil: did you look at the map of michigan last week that had hillary clinton up? >> yeah. i did. neil: so why don't you be fair and balanced? >> because we're talking about the republicans. connell: but the polls could be wrong to? >> connell's point, it's very hard. neil: wait you say he's right -- >> because you're trying to back me into a corner and talk about hillary. connell: i think it's 1237 connell. >> so you have antitrump pac ads running in ohio now. i think it's very tough to convince people to vote for an anti. they vote -- neil: well, either they like the front running alternative candidate or they don't. connell: well, some people day. probably a lot of people won't but some people. this is his only play. neil: you're trying to be switzerland in this. at least daig a dagen takes a stand.

>> i called the point when he was making the sweat stash it didn't feel like his personality and didn't work for him and guess what? it didn't work. connell: his biggest problem he didn't finish the sentence that he started there is kasich is more likely to win ohio than he is to win florida. and that's the big thing now. and, by the way, the stop trump's movement to dagen's point that she made and earlier wondered off a little bit. if they do stop him in one state, if they stop him in ohio, then that might be good enough. then you're going to be really close the way people have modeled out this race to trump getting to that magic number of 1237 could go either way. neil: which is what he was saying essentially. >> and you could have cruz win missouri. his campaign manager is from missouri. knows politics there. they could split north carolina and then it gets super messy. neil: i appreciate you taking time from o'reilly to join us. >> you're bragging about -- like he's the anointed one and bragging about gasparino sitting there --

connell: charlie sitting there. >> legs wide open on outnumbered. connell: get some class, gasparino; right? whatever it is. neil: oh, look at the time. now we want to focus on these polls and whether they're reliable. dagen mentioned a very good one. the polls don't look good from marco rubio. but he argued the trend is his friend because the later one is in the gap. would it be enough to pull a bernie sanders in florida? in other words, win a state that almost all the polls had you losing? or does lightning in this case only strike once? after this can a business have a mind?

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>> there are 50 states in this country. you've got to do well in 50 states. and we have now won nine states. and most of them are pretty large margins. we think we're going to have a good tuesday. we have had -- this is our third rally of the day here in florida. 8,000 people out there. so we think it's going to be a good tuesday. . neil: all right. obviously very confident of the nine states he's won i think compared to the 13 or so hillary clinton has won. he can make an argument that he has sort of cross-country appeal in michigan, maine, nebraska, vermont, oklahoma, minnesota, and on and on we go. all tipping off with new hampshire when the whole thing got started. naturally union of health care workers president doing this right now. big supporter of bernie sanders and has been. he does make a good point

there but will it be enough? i mean that michigan win if you think about it did change people's perception that maybe he's stronger in so-called roughed up states than was thought. or is it as some of the hillary clinton people have said a one-and done event? what do you think? >> well, obviously michigan shattered expectations and i think the wall street journal described it as unprecedented historic upset. i think that -- well, first of all, the polls were closer there in florida. the poll i saw this morning was 30% hillary clinton up on bernie. but i'm still hopeful. and i think the biggest advantage that bernie has is the unprecedented numbers of donations from donors across this country approaching 3 million. i'm a regular donor, so i get e-mails every day. and tuesday night i was watching the results of the michigan primary. and when the results came in, i immediately got an e-mail from bernie's campaign that

set a goal of $5 million to be raised to help with next week's elections. when i got up the next morning, there was an e-mail that said they exceeded the $5 million. neil: is that right? >> in less than 24 hours from 177,000 donors. and the important thing to note is that 99.9% of those folks, folks like me, haven't maxed out on the $2,700 that they're allowed to give. neil: so they can keep giving. that's a very good point there. they can keep giving. but i do want to ask you about what's going on with unions in general. and a lot of them that might have obviously sympathetic hillary clinton supporters. as organizations, they're not coming out for hillary clinton herself. even with her refusediation ironically of the very trade agreements that were brought up under her president or under her husband president clinton and even repudiating the trade deals by president barack obama. what do you make of that in whether unions are just

turning a deaf ear to her? >> well, first of all, i think that most unions in the country that have endorsed secretary clinton did it in a top down way as opposed to listening to their members. you know, our union did the very opposite thing where we went through a three-month process bottom up last fall. and eventually had a vote -- and this is when bernie was still in single digits. neil: right. >> and our leaders voted 72% to endorse bernie to 17 for mrs. clinton. and it's because that bernie understands advocates for workers. neil: but it's not just bernie. many are concerned -- i know cio this is the case and the united mine workers where i know this is the case, the sciu service workers union where it's getting to be a worrisome case. the leadership members moving over to donald trump. what do you make of that? >> i think it's -- because they're not consulted and not involved in the process, you know, it was interesting.

the ride i had this morning the driver we started engaging in this, and i talked about bernie sanders. and this is a san franciscoian, and i asked him who he supported, and it was donald trump. and simply because he's disenfranchised with the system. antiwashington d.c. struggling to get by. stagnated wages. not seeing a clear path to improving their lives. and not having any hope in the establishment for accomplishing that. so i think that's a common population in the voter that bernie and trump -- neil: wouldn't that be a kick, though, that so much of the union vote, which has always avoided republicans like the playing ends up going to donald trump in droves. >> well, that's certainly a concern. and i think that criticism that i have of many union leaders is that they don't engage and listen to their workers enough and empower their workers to make decisions in endorsement processes like this. .

neil: well, i think you did reveal a large crack there. national union health care workers president there. very good having you go on. thank you. >> thank you for the opportunity. neil: all right. let's take a look at the corner of wall and broadway. stocks up about 200 points. and barack obama's approval generating at or near presidency highs. are the two connected? well, we'll look into it. every day you read headlines about businesses

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michigan primary. we were right there in the room and actually michelle and donald trump and cory and all the security people actually walked by it about the time that this alleged assault occurred. but now we have a colleague of michelle fields actually saying -- have been some of the video here and calling into question a washington post reporter ben terrace's report that is the one -- who pointed the finger. terrace pointed the finger and now a fellow reporter calling this -- that account into question at this hour. so the whole thing is very confusing. and we're trying to keep up with it. neil: yeah, so let's say it was not, cory, a mistaken identity. did someone at the campaign rough her up? or manhandle or --

>> katrina pearson the spokesperson was on fox business earlier today, and she suggested that there might have been somebody else there at the event. cory has a crew cut. there are a lot of security guys and secret service personnel around there who have crew cuts as well. very short hair. and so now there's this possibility of perhaps mistaken identity in this alleged incident. neil: have there been any other incidents involving cory with other reporters? >> not to my knowledge. i've been to a lot of those events myself, and there was the episode -- not with corey but the trump event with news photographer that was roughed up by security personnel. but not with corey in particular. neil: yeah, not with corey in particular. okay. we're still looking into this. michelle fields and so many others, buena park wanted to get the facts right on this one. here's something that's undeniable. stocks are up. and they're up a lot.

up about 202 points, which would easily make this a good hold anywhere near this and doesn't have to be more than 30 points or so. but to see a fourth straight week of gains. craig smith on that. he's the swiss america trading chairman. and i couldn't lose sight of the fact that this occurs the same week barack obama enjoying his highest approval generating north of 51%, 53% in other polls. he hasn't seen that in many years. are the two intertwined? >> well, if they are, neil, i should sent mario drogy a bouquet of flowers because it's what he did $80 billion in the bond program -- 80 billion euros. neil: in other words, to stimulate euros and the markets love that kind of stuff; right? >> sure. and i think that has a lot to do with it. quite frankly, neil, i think the campaign is probably helping him. because there's so much attention on, you know, trump

and sanders and all of these outliers. it's almost taken the attention after the white house to the point where really he could fly underneath the radar, and he's not getting much attention. and i guess no news is good news at the white house if you're trying to stay out of the line of fire. neil: you know, much debate what he wants to get done in these next ten months or so and the message the republicans are sending him when it comes to supreme court picks, you're not going to get anything done. when it comes to budgets that forcefully address some structural changes in our tax code, paul ryan seems to be telling him you're not going to be getting anything done. so what's going to be happening these next ten months? >> that's a very interesting question, neil. probably not a whole lot. and quite frankly i think this is why trump is gaining such traction, neil. you know, i was reading that wall street journal piece this morning about how economists say what would happen if bernie sanders took over or trump took over? it would be a disaster for the economy and wall street.

i totally disagree. bernie would be because socialism and capitalism don't mix together very well. but donald trump is talking about a 15% corporate tax rate. 10% one time charge on inversion bringing $2.5 trillion back to america. and more importantly talking about bringing jobs and hopes back to -- hope back to americans. like that taxi driver we just heard about. and so i think you're not going to see much happen in washington right now because the -- if you will candidate in waiting donald trump if he wins the election -- and i haven't picked any candidates. i'm just trying to be objective about this, neil. neil: uh-huh. >> that they're not going to want to do a whole lot knowing that there's a new president that's coming in. and he might do a lot of things that turn this economy around. and, by the way, neil, on the way here, i was looking at the dictionary. and under the word elegant, there's a picture of neil cavuto there. how did you get that pulled off. neil: well, thank you, my friend. now he throws this word around with everybody, trump. he said the cnn debate -- only

one elegant game in town. >> i thought that was interesting today. neil: all right. it's always good having you. i appreciate it. we were mentioning donald trump and whether call himmel began the or not, he's having another big rally. will he respond to this rubio state you vote for who you kind of can to slow everyone we want to s that would be donald trump. do you think he's going to miss the opportunity to respond to that? after this

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>> you said throughout your life that god has led you to your most important decisions. did god lead you to donald trump? >> i prayed about it a lot. i got a lot of indications. people saying i had this dream about you and donald trump. neil: if god did lead ben carson

to support donald trump -- a king maker. it is like iowa. what do you think about what he was saying. ben carson, ending up supporting and putting his time and to donald trump. >> like a lot of people watching that. maybe it is hard to understand. i was with a group of friends last night. there was an audible gasp. you have to be kidding me. then i started questioning doctor carson. why doctor carson with earl his support behind donald trump. someone who said that he has a pathological disease that you

cannot cure. >> all it takes is politics. >> wait a minute. politics is not politics. we have to get rid of politics. we have to get rid of politics. you have an endorsement that just reeks of politics. how can you get there from where you started? >> how is that different from what earlier this campaign season? bromance between your candidate ted cruz and donald trump. a lot of name-calling back and forth. >> i think that you saw an early romance. just a friendship. he still likes donald trump. he just does not like his policy. does not believe he has the judgment or temperament to be

president of the united states. i think you saw one person on that stage that has the grasp of the issues. >> a little help from god. thinking, well, something tells me that i think trump has a better chance to be the nominee. >> do not be drawn in by having a seat at the table. you want to go with someone who actually stands on principle. you have donald trump who is planned parenthood's republican of the year, the guy who is profane and vulgar on the campaign trail, and to say, that

is who god is leading me to. i just have a hard time grasping that. >> beware of those that are down 20 points in the polls. they will never head to the promised land. i do want to get a sense from you about this stuff. we have marco rubio saying vote for me and florida. i am paraphrasing. there is a message to this mass madness. anything to stop donald trump. what do you make of it? >> there are two individuals on that stage. they have a mathematical pathway. i like both of those guys. quite frankly, they are playing

games. i think all heck breaks loose. i think that that benefits hillary clinton. >> going to ted cruz. wait a minute, they are stealing this. >> as long as it is fair and square. virtually, the same amount of delegates. within the margin of error. getting to the convention. many of them did not have the majority when they were there. it has a lead over senator cruz. would you buy that argument? >> first of all, we have to see

what the lead is. making a really good argument. every poll shows that ted cruz deeds donald trump by 10-15 percentage points. >> out right. leading in florida. marco rubio. in all heil, john kasich. >> this is not my first rodeo. watching division happened. i think that you are seeing that here. if cruz was in the same position, i would be telling senator ted cruz you need to yield your campaign. get behind rubio. i think that that would be real leadership by rubio and kasich.

neil: why would you be advising something like that? >> what donald trump said last night, what ted cruz reiterated last night, two of them that have a mathematical pathway. if you are going, donald trump uniting the republican party. would you back donald trump if you were the nominee? >> right now i am backing ted cruz. he would have a long way to go to get my endorsement. he has some big time gaps in order to get my endorsement and people like my endorsement. >> doing that with another

amount of prominent republicans. they are not forgetting all of that stuff. how much does all of that come into play? they are just not warming up to donald trump. >> that was water under the bridge. i am happy to have that battle any day of the week. were concerned about the punch it did anybody that is neutral on the nation of israel, do you really want to be president of the united states? that goes against all of our values. >> between donald trump and hillary clinton, who would it be? >> ted cruz. >> it is always good to have you. thank you very much. >> god bless.

it does show a lot of the key party players. they forget a lot of those harsh words. what do you make of this? >> a tendency to use very simple language when talking about the issues. they appreciate that he is not the typical politician. by the same token, turning off a lot of americans. he talks about muslims. he talks about immigrants. talks about a variety of issues. there is a lot in his tone that has been offputting. including a lot of people within the republican debate. >> is it your sense, even in this carson event earlier today, i would not say subdued, residential, i do not know what that means.

very in your face trump. what do you make of it? >> is specially if he does become the republican nominee. when he talks about strategy and tone, that is one issue. including free trade, immigration and some other issues when it comes to foreign policy. the responsibility to our allies and enemies. they do not know whether or not they can trust mister trump when it comes to issues. especially given his track record on so many situations. he made a lot of statements in the back that are both this way and that. they want to have a politician or a presidential candidate feared the conservative. rather than being a complete wildcard. >> filling out conservatives.

he is bringing far more into the party. he makes a good point. 20,000 or so democrats. voting republican. there is something to that. >> that is right. sometimes, people are coming into the polling booth not sure which ballot to ask for. they just know that they want to vote for mister trump. people who have been a part of politics for some time, did not ache did they were hoping to broaden the appeal. instead, donald trump is reaching blue-collar workers. feeling the establishment has not spoken for them over the years. a different direction, but he is certainly getting a broad coalition of voters behind him.

voters as good as anyone else's. >> thank you very, very much. good seeing you. what if i told you, this surging market, if it stabilizes, on top of some very good numbers. it may just reach president hillary clinton. president bernie sanders. we are on it. ♪

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>> we are so focused on what the republicans candidates are doing. the dow up about 188 points. looking out the fourth weekly game. hitting better than. 15%. you have to wonder whether the american people are feeling better about angst. the big backer of hillary clinton. what do you make of this? >> no truer words have ever been spoken. how well the economy does. i have to tell you, back in january, the economy, i was very

concerned about the impact i was going to have as it got closer to november. people look at their 401(k)s and they are not doing well. things are straining out. i think that that is another reason why she is going to win. >> it is not consistent. you are right. it is better to have markets moving up. history tells us the danger. hillary clinton enjoys an appreciable delegate advantage over bernie sanders. you throw in those superdelegates they are and she really has an advantage. why do we have these superdelegates? why are they there? >> the fact of the matter is, they are there.

sanders will have to deal with them. complaining about some of them being lobbyists. holding special interest, i think that that is ridiculous. >> they are. i understand all of that. why do they even exist to be there? >> that seems reasonable to me. you have to remember, i was on your show a couple weeks ago. it came down to the superdelegates. they would be under tremendous pressure to rethink how they will approach this. >> you are exactly right. gravitating towards hillary clinton. the primary process going on.

they jumped ship. you are quite right about that. not obligated to vote for hillary clinton. they can change her mind. you are looking at the map right here. i love ernie, but, my god, i look at these superdelegates. it is hillary clinton all the way. it could frustrate you. >> my point is, it is what it is. being more involved in the democratic party, maybe you could have voiced optimization of this. >> well, that is a fair point. if you are asking me about criticism about the superdelegates, my point is that, you know, he and his supporters being part of the system earlier on, they could have changed it.

participating in the democratic party. >> real quickly. talking about what happened in michigan and whether the sanders folks are right. it may be another rough state. they could start running the table in these states that have not been big beneficiaries of trade agreements. putting hillary clinton in some hot water. >> yes. she suffered a significant that back in michigan. i was surprised that he did as well as he did with the african-american vote. i think that trade is the wildcard in ohio. they are hitting it for everything that they can. i still do not believe in some of the southern states. >> all right. very good having you.

always appreciate it. >> thank you, neil. >> let's take a look at this. we have virtually every sector climbing. a lot of folks are saying that talk of oil under $20 a barrel. very leery when they say that here at i will just leave it at that. ♪

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the map all right. some news to grab paul ryan and run for president. >> all i am here for is to show the people. in case of a deadlock convention. there is a deadlock convention. they will have a million signatures that will support paul ryan. a waste of time. orchestrating anything without the fingerprints on it. we will put an end to it, we will see.

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>> you can see in this video. 800 feet down. 640 men and women. now it is down to 220 people mining in that facility. as the unemployment rate is now 9.4% continuing to increase. not directly in the mining industries. we spoke with one of those individuals that was just laid off. having a heartbreaking story. here is what he told us. >> the most heartbreaking thing is when your kids cried. i want to know if you will have as much money. what do you tell them. you have to reassure them that everything will be okay. you have to make way.

my son, he plays sports. he feels the burn. he is still wearing the shoes that you were from last year. he is afraid to spend the money. because, i am unemployed. >> only getting worse here. just notified i want company that they may lose their jobs. war than 100 of them on april 1. >> thank you very much. a lot of you are probably very familiar with the wounded warrior project. badly scarred. a lot of help. wounded warriors has raised a lot of money. what is at issue is how to spend that money.

some top executives have been fired. money not going where it is supposed to go. jeff flock with the very latest. jeff: hi. although organization, certainly, a noble cause. they pushed back very hard against these allegations. spending a lot of it on parties and conferences instead of on the wounded warriors. take a look at them. they are stephen r deasy. he was the ceo of wounded warrior. the chief operating officer. both of them fired today. in fact, some policies have not kept pace with the organization's rapid growth. how rapidly has organization grown? they raised $800 million to

wounded warriors. reports from cbs and others, they spent about half of it on overhead. conferences, lavish parties and the rest. unlike other similar organizations. spending maybe 90% on the war years and 10% on the overhead. you may remember that this has all started with a report of the spending in january of this year. the boycott. even though, he had been a famous support of wounded war you're warrior in the past, he said that he would not be donating any of the proceeds to wounded warriors. fired are the top two executives. just incredible.

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detecting or penetration testing done prior to 9/11. neil: what scares me, paul, one thing to hack into computer network where you shut it down or make it impossible for folks to get online, do same thing with a dam or something that controls water, that's whole another -- >> of course. you're looking in-state actors. so their agenda is entirely different than non-state actors. you are looking that people want to hurt the american people. neil: if you hack into a dam, opening, closing, water in, water out being overly simplistic to time it to open up the spigot. >> no question. if they hack into our traffic system, start turning lights on and off. same exact thing. our infrastructure. it is weak. neil: where are you thinking of cyber spying and rest to be just computer thing. life and death, utility grid thing. how much more is going on than we know? >> a lot more.

absolutely no question about that. that's why you look at it from the anti-crime perspective, so much time being put into recognizing the in-state actors and what their agenda his on recognizing our vulnerabilities and exactly how they plan going after them. neil: separately talking about urgent wires coming into to us fellow granted immunity on the hillary clinton server, she has said, again get into debate, happy for this, get it out there, get it settled. if you watch another, left-leaning news channel you are convinced there is nothing to this. others say the fact he granted immunity, he wanted immunity because he doesn't want to harm himself but he could harm her. how so? >> no question about it. when you look at the totality what is going on there, i respect what she is doing. she is trying to spin everything on positive note. she wants to make sure she sends a branding message out she hasn't done anything, she is complying, all there is too it.

neil, possibly the right side coming after me. at end. day when you look at the legal system there is no question they already convene ad grand jury. when they're bringing him in as witness? neil: needs something for authorities to take the next leap to charge her with stuff, right? >> exactly. neil: seems to me they don't have that yet. >> he obviously has information what they want. he just doesn't want to give it unless it means that he is going to be protected himself. if i'm her -- neil: does he have information that could incriminate her, to explain the process. he wants to in case he says something doesn't make, threaten him at all? >> exactly. which is why i would be worried if i were here. there is no question that he is giving information that is damaging. neil: this whole cyber issue, beyond hillary clinton, i should say, which of the republican candidates is best poised to deal with it, recognize the gravity of it? >> that is good question, neil. i have yet to hear from any of the republican candidates where

they stand on protection of our infrastructure and what they plan on doing to reevaluate and reassess how vulnerable we are. neil: donald trump said, paul, it would stop under me, because i would send the word out it stops. >> what does that mean, neil? what does that mean? when you look at counter terrorism process, how will you rate targets from hard, to medium, to soft. how will you deploy personnel in order to assess vulnerability. that is what i want to hear. we need to look at nuclear sites. at end of the day, neil, going down sixth avenue, that no one is attack grid so we don't have mass chaos in this country. whoever steps up into the oval they owe the american people the example how you will govern this country with cyber issue because it is humidity and we haven't addressed yet.

neil: thank you, paul. trump trump speaking to missouri crowd one of the big states up for grabs on tuesday, how he will track kel this perception everyone but trump to stop trump including someone who said outright, he is leading candidate named marco rubio. that is a fine intention, phyllis schlafly is talking at this trump event. after this.

>> time now for fox business brief, here we are on friday afternoon, 1% away from being positive for year on dow. we're up 180 points. 17,175. could we now officially turn the corner. a number of individual stocks hitting lifetime highs. food company sysco, they're all at highest they have been here. speaking of food companies as we were with sysco sort of, all these stocks all-time highs today. campbell's soup, general mills and tyson foods. everything douche food related. exempt where charlie gasparino gets his hair done. was that something, i ulta salon. can't make it out

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opportunity it. you're there with the ladies. holding for the like king tut. >> like the gold chain on my wrist? neil: yeah, you're really advancing our people. nice move there. what were you talking about there? >> we were talking about the civility or -- notice their body language? neil: they couldn't get further away. andrea is like, outside the studio. she is like so far away. >> hanging off the chair. neil: yeah. >> we were talking about the civility or lack of civility at the donald trump rallies. neil: you were talking about civility? >> right. neil: continue. >> you've seen some of videotapes, haven't you? neil: your civility? talking about your civility. >> today i have not grab ad female reporter and thrown to the ground. neil: what do you make of this tough stuff? they say it wasn't the campaign. >> i will say this, when covering that sort of thing. not defending the action what

happened to her same, suzanne fields? michelle fields. when you're covering campaign the secret service is there to protect the candidate and you know corlu wan does ski is campaign manager. neil: said it wasn't him. >> i don't know the motive cory would have to go against breitbart reporter. no offense, breitbart is in love with donald trump. not like they're beating up on the enemy here. if you look at some of his comments, you know, listen, my view is this. donald trump rallies and campaign, it seems like they stoke a degree of vitriol that we have not seen in, not seen in a while. now that means that i'm not saying cory did this or not did this. the woman was clearly thrown to the ground. there are clearly fights at these rallies and if you see some of the tapes they are brutal to watch. neil: more than others? >> yes. neil: or are the numbers so

large he has that just a few would -- >> would be nice for him to say let's all behave once in a while instead of stoking constantly the anger. neil: you know, list -- >> you know, listen. neil: he said earlier today, some of them stoke anger. who? neil: people who protest? >> he saying protesters are stoking his -- neil: right. >> people are okay to protest. that doesn't mean you have to smash them in the face. and i think what happened here with the, with michelle, whether she was pushed down by corey or not, you know, these places are so rowdy, that i think his, his guards, whether they're secret service or corey lewandowski, they have to take extraordinary measures to protick the principal. neil: connell, one of the most congenial guys. >> he saw some. fights there. neil: right. they are sort of jazzed up and they, a lot of times reporters are in other events are in pens.

they get the audiences worked up. >> donald should say take it down a notch before someone gets killed, that is my opinion. before someone really gets hurt. neil: protesters show up at events, right? >> by the way, we have, we have, no, but it is symptom of this. tell you why. i'm not blaming corey for it. i don't know all the fact, if he did this he should are fired in my view. here is what i should tell you, when you have this type of vitriol at these rally, that you're not tamping down, kind of like bringing up, want to show emotion, your job, if you're corey, because you're guarding your prince pill, your job as secret service protect your principle and it is really insane situation you have to take extraordinary means to make sure your principal doesn't get hurt. hens stuff like this happens. this is what i don't understand. corey doesn't have animus towards breitbart.

he has animus towards me than a reporter at breitbart, they write puff pieces about him constantly. my guess he didn't know it was her. neil: by the way, nothing to indicate, go ahead by all indications seems to be mistaken identity. >> no one should be doing this, whether secret service or him. the reason why they have to do it because vitriol and level of intensity that donald won't tamp down is through the roof. neil: how do you discern between protester and reporter covering an event regardless where he or she is from. >> that is the problem. you have to take extraordinary measure. by the way michelle fields doesn't look like somebody that wants to rip your head off sitting there with her little tape recorder or whatever, her pad and pen in her hand. neil: saying someone like connell mcshane is fair game? >> no. he would not be fair game. telling you level of discourse that is going on at these donald trump rallies, i said this time and time again, which donald

refuses to tamp down on, you're going, your secret service and your guards are on high alert and if you stick your hand in a different way -- neil: his rallies are attended by thousands, sometimes tens of thousands. it is very difficult to keep crowds of that sized under control. >> remind them every now and then. neil: all right. >> i want civil discourse. neil: just that you're talking about civil discourse. >> i'm telling you want someone to die at one of these things? neil: i'm no apologists. he hates you. doesn't want to come on the show. >> i agree with you. neil: very, very different. >> suppose you stoke anger of thousands of people. neil: so you're saying he is stoking it. >> yeah. he likes that level of intensity. he is bringing it on. neil: what is difference between saying get outta here, you go, get outta here. what is the next level? >> help me out here. i don't understand what you're talking about. neil: when he says, that would you stop it at that? >> i would tell donald to remind his audience that, listen, we're going to have a rally.

we're going to be passionate. we're going to have a disagreement without throwing punches and beating the hell out of our opponents. neil: okay thank you very much. a lot more after this. including how donald trump is going to respond to any and all of these developments includinge one backing by ben carson today. stick around. >> get them outtaher. seven. i just wish one of those people could have been mrs. johnson. [dog bark] trust me, we're dealing with a higher intelligence here. ♪ the all-new audi q7 is here. ♪

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ambassador, i'm seeing just at that position of a quiet event saying good-bye to a woman who represented warmer, genteel fabric of american society and tone of politics today couldn't be more stark, right? >> no. quite a differenttoday and when reagan ran. neil: you know, ambassador, when you see, people, it is a who's who list, democrats, republicans, those who served with the administration, those who didn't, what is the message of those times, what is the message of the reagan era? >> well, i think the message with reagan is that he always was forceful with his policies and programs but he was very december human being and he treated everybody equally. neil: do you think, i think it was joe biden, ambassador, that ronald reagan then couldn't get

nomination of republican party today? >> oh i don't think that is true at all. he was a in effect a man for all seasons. and nancy reagan was his bond and his guide and his, the love of his life and the other day, what surprised me, i was talking to career member of the national security council who i think now is retired and he said nancy's responsible for half of the credit for ending the cold war. and i never heard anybody talk about that. he said, he explained that she nursed him back to everything, health and, during his time after he was shot. and, also played a great part with helping him with gorbachev. and they both -- neil: but more than that, prior to that, maybe she was the

reason he got saddled up for presidential run after hisness 76 experience just coming up -- his 1976 experience with gerald ford and he said he was done and she said no, that's not true? >> right at beginning when they were dating, she knew her friend, another starlet, was dating justin dart. he was head of dart industries and all of those big companies. >> sure. >> she suggested a double date. and so when her friend said to justin dart, we want to go on double date with nancy, he said, with whom? and she said oh, she's dating another divorced man, ronald reagan. and he said, he exploded and said no way will i go with that liberal son of a gun. neil: imagine that. >> and they did. and it turned out he became an

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neil: all right nancy reagan's funeral has begun. trish regan will take you through. trish: the nation mourns the passing of one of the greatest first first ladies to ever serve our country. first lady nancy reagan's funeral is just about to begin. we will bring you the reading of one of the hundreds of love letters that ronald reagan wrote to nancy. we will hear from journalist tom brokaw as well as her to children, pam and ron junior.