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here comes the closing bell with david asman and melissa francis. the closing bell rings]. melissa: stocks mixed at the close here is a look where we are ending the day right now. the dow trading up 21 points. we see red on the rest of the board. i'm melissa francis. david: i'm david asman and this is "after the bell." new at this hour -- voting is underway right now in five key states including florida and ohio. it is super tuesday 2.0 as we say here. arguably the most important day of the presidential race so far, with a total of 367 delegates up for grabs and two winner-take-all states in the mix. it is make-or-break time in the republican race for the white house. we're just a few short hours away from the first results. melissa: and the pressure is on. we've got you covered. connell mcshane is in miami,
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jeff flock is on the ground in ohio, mike tobin is in go, steve hayes from "weekly standard" is here in studio to break it all down for us and kick it off with you, connell in florida, first winner-take-all states with 99 delegates up for grabs. reporter: well, melissas the polls here in the state of florida have been frequent and also consistent moving today with donald trump in the lead and in the lead comfortably. all that varied is margin and and that hasn't varied very much. marco rubio is insisting it out those polls are getting it wrong and hopes to prove everybody wrong when results are tabulated last night. rubio was in west miami as he wrapped up campaign in the state, where it started in old stomping grounds, in back after pickup walk with supporters gathering. rest of south florida needs to turn out for him and what we understand the turnout throughout the state has been
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reported to be high, higher than in past elections but problem for rubio may be what the trump campaign is telling us, they plan to do well and think they will do well in every other part of the state. they like their chances in central florida. according to the trump campaign, officials i spoke to today they really like their chances up the entire west coast of the state, specifically mentioning areas like sarasota and tampa, as areas they will do well, finally in north florida, you have bordering states of alabama and georgia where trump already proven he can do well. they think the voters in north florida are quite similar. trump campaign is expecting and public polls are telling us they should have a big victory tonight. however rubio insists the polls are getting it wrong. he also says no matter what happens tonight he is not going anywhere. he told fox earlier today, no matter what the results are he will be in utah campaigning tomorrow. back to you. melissa: connell, thank you so much for that. david. david: little further north make-or-break day for ohio governor john kasich.
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he is locked in very tight race over donald trump in his open state. kasich said he would drop it off the race if he doesn't win ohio. jeff flock is at polling station north olmstead, south of cleveland. jeff, how is the hometown kid doing today? port part as i point out -- reporter. david, as you point out he says he has gotten to win. back and forth today it has gotten tougher. look at anti-trump ad being run here in ohio today. it is from a pac that is criticizing donald trump and putting his own words in the mouths of women, some of the things he said about women. john kasich jump all over this. apparently said, only recently seen this kind of stuff about donald trump. here was his reaction. >> i will be, however forces going forward to talk about some of the deep concerns that i have about the way this campaign has
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been run by some others, by one other in particular. but today is not the day to do that. i've been very concerned. i just saw a commercial, i guess last night about comments made about women. i have two daughters. they see this stuff. what do you think they think? reporter: indication perhaps the gloves are coming off. donald trump never had gloves on the in first place. this is his response in twitter. in presidential voting john kasich is 0-22. so i would be a good candidate. i will beat hillary. he retweet ad tweet from his son eric, mathematically and statistically apparently impossible for case tick to get to for 1237 which is the number he needs for the nomination. he would need 112% of the remaining delegates to be the nominee. that is true. but if he gets a lost delegates he goes to the convention. maybe who knows who gets it.
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that is where it stands at moment. all depends on tonight. david: does indeed. everybody's gloves have been off for a long time. jeff flock. thank you. melissa. melissa: voters heading to the polls in illinois which is not winner-take-all state. republican candidates battle it out for the share of the state's 59 delegates. mike tobin in chicago with latest on this one. mike, how is it shaping up? reporter: if you're looking for a upset look at the democratic race here in illinois because the "black lives matter" organization, other minority organizations have been out demonstrating, not against donald trump but against hillary clinton. and that is because of her close association with mayor rahm emanuel. terribly unpopular in the black community because of his handling of the laquan mcdonald shooting. one organization reportedly hired a banner plane to toe -- tow over the city, hillary stands with rahm.
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he thanked the chicago mayor for not endorsing him as he barnstormed across the land of lincoln. he is nipping right now, according to the polls at hillary's heels. old logic is no one can win cook county or chicago. cook county being most populace county in the state if you don't have support of the black leadership out here. over on gop vied, ted cruz also sees an opening in illinois. why he has hit five locations yesterday. if you believe the polls it is working for him. he has been closing the gap from behind of donald trump from nine points to six 1/2. kasich a distant third. a lot of talk on talk radio and word-of-mouth. still thunder belongs to trump. turnout is up 37% above 2008. you have to assume that is because of all the excitement about the anti-establishment year. melissa. melissa: mike, thank you so much for that. david? david: with a new national poll showing donald trump breaking above 50% for republican voters
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for first time he is looking for a clean sweep tonight. if he gets it will his party rally around him? here so weigh in, steve hayes, "weekly standard" columnist and fox news contributor. somebody about whom mr. trump has talked in the past. >> said a few things to say about me in the past. david: but even, if he takes ohio, and sweeps the all of the other states, how can the republicans deny him as the front-runner? >> i think they would -- you're already seeing efforts to deny him the nomination if he doesn't get to the requisite 1237 delegates in contested convention. you would have people who would broker and argue who should get delegates, try to pool delegates to deny him the number he needs on the second ballot. david: usually by now, if somebody was to clean sweep the second super tuesday as we call this, usually the party rallies around them at this point. of course it is donald trump. he is very different but is all the rhetoric, all of the rhetoric against him from other republicans is that likely to
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change if he sweeps tonight? >> i think it will change for some people. definitely won't change for others. there was a "politico" had a story moments ago about effort that is being undertaken by several conservatives hosting a meeting in washington, d.c. on thursday to talk about either coalescing behind ted cruz, if he is sort of conservative left standing, or look at third party bid. erick erickson from red state and a couple of others are said to be leading that. there are other discussions taking place. david: they have a big microphone, people like erick erickson. they have been out in the news for a long time but you compare them, and i would say the relatively few voices like them that support the establishment inside the beltway with the millions of people who have been voting for trump how can they deny the -- >> i don't agree with your premise. david: electorally donald trump is getting millions of votes. >> i don't agree with your premise. nobody would say eric air son is part of the establishment in washington, d.c. he is
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anti-establishment as you possibly come. david: so is marco rubio at one point. >> fair enough. at this point you have 65% of the republican primary voters who voted for somebody other than donald trump. the rules are there for a reason. if he doesn't hit 1237 you can bet many people in the republican party will do anything they can to deny him the nomination. david: even if that means hillary, even if hillary becomes the president as a result? >> yeah, i think what you're seeing people do now is look for any and every alternative to hillary clinton becoming result, because they believe, as i do, if donald trump is the republican nominee, he will be clobbered by hillary clinton. david: what happened to the promises made at debate, that i will support the nominee if it is donald trump? >> you've seen other candidates stick by their promises. david: they're waiverring a little bit, haven't they. >> i think they should waffle. point to things that donald trump is done, no way we could support this guy, whether it is casual dishonesty, lack of knowledge on foreign policy the list is very long.
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david: when you make a pledge at a debate, a pledge by the way, remember the first debate the fox news debate, when donald had to make a pledge and he was reluctant to do so but these guys made a pledge. we will support the nominee even if it is trump. how can they go back on that? >> 308 tish shuns going back on their word. would be something new right. this is the argument ted cruz is giving. look, i can't go back on pledge. i made a pledge. people who aren't accustomed politicians honoring their word. i will honor my word. even ted cruz facetiously conjured up a scenario despite -- he said somebody shot in the middle of donald trump as donald trump used i wouldn't support him. it becomes line drawing exercise. where is your line? that is ted cruz's line. i think others will have much lower threshold. david: does he win ohio tonight or lose? >> i would bet i would bet he loses it. i think we're looking for very good night for donald trump, 250 delegates plus. david: steve hayes thank you
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very much. melissa. melissa: wow. don't miss a moment of the action starting 7:00 p.m. eastern on fox business. i will be joining the team headed by neil cavuto bringing you all the results all night long. david: now to a major development in the fight against terror overseas. belgian police are reporting that one man has been found dead after a shootout this afternoon following a police raid near brussels. the raid is linked to the paris terror attacks from last november. four police officers have been injured. no word yet on who the dead man is or how many other suspects are at large. we will bring you details as they unfold. melissa. melissa: russian president vladmir putin shocking the world yesterday with his announcement on syria. today he makes good on the promise. david: hillary clinton making yet another major misstep for the second day in a row. did you hear this? how will this latest comment haunt her on on the campaign trail.
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>> libya was a different kind of calculation. we didn't lose a single person. melissa: hmmm. what will the race look like tomorrow? donald trump has a pretty good idea of how it is all going to turn out. >> we are going to win, win, win, win. we're going to win so much. pet moments are beautiful, unless you have allergies. then your eyes may see it differently. only flonase is approved to relieve both your itchy, watery eyes and congestion. no other nasal allergy spray can say that.
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melissa: hillary clinton's latest claim on libya leaves out a few crucial details of benghazi attack. >> libya was different kind of calculation. we didn't lose a single person. melissa: really? former secretary of state's campaign has been overshadowed of her handling of the defend 12 benghazi attack and -- 2012
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benghazi attack and private email investigation. we have judge andrew napolitano, fox senior judicial analyst. be a psychologist for a second. was that an accident, on purpose? what do you think? >> i am not a psychologist, but i have observed on a proclivity on part of mrs. clinton to lie. she doesn't believe she is lying. she convinced herself, some reality, some fantasy which she existed actually does exist and is reality. how could she not know, how could she forget on her watch these four guys died. they were murdered. the bodies were brought back here. she perpetrated the myth because of 15 minute lowbrow video made in hollywood. melissa: yeah. >> that is what she told the families in the presence of the dead bodies. melissa: she has been pursued relentlessly on the trail. for her to suddenly forget there were dead bodies it -- >> one of the theories about the private server, so she could
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keep from the president and rest of the state department outside of her inner circle all the things she woos doing in libya to try to bring about colonel gadhafi's demise. she might very well have been, you asked me to be a psychologist, in that mind set when she answered that question. melissa: what about did you hear other comment she made last night. she was talking about the trump rallies and violence surrounding them, she said, called it reminiscent of lynching? talking in this circle, we have this in our dna. we understand when you hear the back and forth and hate that goes on between this group and brings lynching into it? >> that is an, that is the most extreme analysis of the trump rallies that i have heard. look, there is a lot of legal and constitutional issues that interplay here. there are property rights because leesed the venue. there is first amendment rights, not just his but the protesters and those who came to listen to him. there are intelligent ways to analyze this as a mature adult. melissa: right.
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>> but to compare it to lynching is reprehensible and takes it to a new low. melissa: new low. conversation already in a tough place. all right a little more than a month after the sudden death of justice scalia the president might be ready to nominate a replacement. reports say president obama has narrowed down the list to three candidates and could unveil his supreme court picks as early as this week but republicans are still determined to block the president's choice. let me ask you, do you know these three individuals? >> i know of them. i don't know them personally. i can tell you a little bit about them. melissa: yes. >> judge merrick garland, who is 63 years old is the most mainstream. what i would call moderate to conservative democrat. he has been sitting for 20 years. so he has a very, very lengthy record and record shows moderation, a lack of inclination to invalidate what the government does, a way to try to make things work. the other two have been federal appeals court judges, same level
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as judge garland for about a year-and-a-half. and they have very can't records but they -- very scant records but appear to be more middle of the road than president obama's two prior appointees, justice elena kagan and justice sonia sotomayor. melissa: what do you make of that? >> i make of that that the president is trying to find a way to tease away enough pubs from the mitch mcconnell inspired solidarity that we will not vote up or down. now, i don't know that that will work under the senate rules because under the senate rules, rules adopted when harry reid was majority leader and the democrats ran the senate, the majority leader, not the majority party, the majority leader decides what comes to the floor for a vote. so it doesn't matter how many republicans the president may pry away by variety of political techniques. if mitch mcconnell doesn't want this nominee to be voted on this nominee will not be voted on. melissa: interesting.
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judge napolitano. thank you very much. always a pleasure. >> thank you. david: in some other news russian president vladmir putin has begun partially withdrawing some warplanes and troops from syria today. putin spokesperson saying this afternoon, decision was not prompted by the kremlin's displeasure with the tough stance and peace negotiations. nor is it intended to put pressure on syrian president bashar assad. that is what they say. melissa. melissa: donald trump aiming to knock out marco rubio in florida tonight. re his home state but the senator is not buying it. >> polls in this election cycle are horrifying. i'm really quite frankly i think a lot of people will be embarrassed tonight. they will want refund from money they spent on the polls because we're going to win florida. melissa: preparing for november, democrats are readying attacks on "the donald."
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melissa: the spewed between donald trump an marco rubio is coming to a head in the sunshine state. >> i don't care by one vote for five, we want to win. 99 delegates awarded to winner. imagine what will mean to our campaign if we win florida? it will give us enormous momentum heading into arizona and utah. we feel good about that. melissa: senator rubio hoping for home state advantage to give him biggest victory but he faces stiff competition from front-runner donald trump. here to give us what to expect the florida gop chair. thanks for joining us. what is turnout over there? >> turnout is extremely heavy. we are expecting record numbers turning out. as of yesterday, we had 1.17 million voters voting already in the primaries. so we're expecting to reach approximately 2 million voters which of course would be a record for the state of florida.
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melissa: what are the most important issues in florida right now? i mean i know your median income is lagging. a lot of the rest of the country right now. is that one of the big things? what is your biggest issues? >> yeah. i think the biggest issues here are the economy and economic prosperity. i think that is one of the reasons why you're seeing high turnout. people here in the state of florida, republicans are genuinely afraid of having hillary clinton in the white house to continue doubling down basically on obama's failed policies. melissa: yeah. and when i look at the way that the campaign has run so far, the amount of dollars that have been spent on attack ads, $8 million from outside groups spent on trump attack ads. rubio's campaign is supporting groups spent about $6 million on anti-trump ads. meanwhile marco rubio is trying to appeal to latino voters by doing ads in spanish. how has all of this impacted the race? >> well, i don't think the negative ads are having too much
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of an impact this race. what i think will be more of an impact is voter turnout. northern florida is nor demographically similar to georgia and alabama and we expect that turnout to be heavily for mr. trump. southern florida where you have broward county, dade county where there is haier concentration of hispanic voters go for marco rubio. that is his home county. a lot will be played out for turnout reasons. the turnout in the i-4 corridor. we always said you can't win the state of florida unless you win the i-4 corridor. melissa: a lost states have seen that they have seen record turnout. those extra voters that come out tend to come out for trump. that is what it is looking like for you down there? >> we're seeing a lot of voters that have never voted in a 2012 and 2008 presidential primary. voting in this election. so, we're making assumption that a lot of those voters will come out and vote for mr. trump but not all of those voters are
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coming out and voting for mr. trump. this election and just, sheer competition for this election is driving a lot of people to the polls. they want to make sure we have the best candidate possible to take on hillary clinton in november and one of the reasons why is a lot of people are really anxious, in a bad way about having a hillary clinton presidency and having a 5-4 liberal majority on supreme court. a lot of that is driving people to the polls also. melissa: thanks for your insight. have a good night. >> thank you. david: we have business news to report here. shares of oracle climbing after-hours, now up about 4%. the tech giant reporting mixed third quarter earnings. results beating with an earnings per share of 64 cents, two cents higher than expected. it did miss on revenue, citing stronger u.s. dollar. but after hours you can see the stock is up about 4%. that is good news. melissa: sanders is hoping to bridge the delegate gap tonight with surprise super tuesday victory.
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can we expect upset from the vermont senator? our panel will weigh in on that one. david: plus take a live look at voters in the buckeye state. they are lining up in ohio. john kasich the governor banking on a home state win but donald trump has other ideas. >> and it's down to four. there is only six people now, of the whole country, that could be president. i have asthma...
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david: you are looking right now at a live shot. this is toledo, ohio. of course ohio is really an important state. it's a dead heat for republicans and of course bernie is looking to upset hillary on democratic side. we'll report it all right here on fbn. melissa. melissa: all right. bernie sanders looking for a few good upsets. there are nearly 700 delegates up for grabs tonight on democratic side. fox news's ed henry on the campaign trail with hillary clinton in west palm beach, florida. ed, what is it like down there today? reporter: melissa, pretty beautiful out here as you can probably see, that's for sure. hillary clinton is hoping it will be friendly territory for her. she has done very well in the south. sanders campaign saying she is become a regional candidate, cleaning up the south largely because of african-american vote but struggling in the midwest.
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she saw big upset win for sanders in michigan. hoping to build up on momentum with wins in ohio, maybe illinois and maybe missouri as well. illinois would be particularly big and symbolic the original home state of hillary clinton. how is he doing it? he is doing the anti-trade message, sanders. talking about manufacturing jobs lost. clinton is struggling to respond. bottom line we may see sanders run the table in the midwest tonight. and continue to have momentum, ener, enthusiasm. but clinton may still have the math because winning north carolina and florida, which is likely for her, 248 delegates at stake here in the sunshine state, she is continuing to build the lead, especially adding in superdelegates, the party bosses who are on her side. but i think the negative for clinton she is not putting sanders away. he has the money to stick around. this is likely to be longer more protracted battle than she ever expected, melissa. melissa: yeah. ed ed henry, thank you for
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weighing in. we'll watch it all night long. david: we have richard goodstein. and harlan hill a democratic strategist and sanders supporter. gentlemen, good to see you. let me go to you first, richard. there have been a couple of gaffs hillary came out last couple days. one concerning coal miners. other concerning libya. i want to play them to get your reaction. >> sure. >> we'll put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business. libya was a different kind of calculation. and we didn't lose a singleperson. david: we didn't lose a single person? she forgot about the ambassador and his aide and two security guys killed as well. i'm just wondering what do you think about hillary? is she okay? >> yeah. so, david, look, anybody, fox news, fox business, anybody else could take things that hillary says out of context. david: that is not out of context. that is not out of context. no, no. not if you set it up that way. that is not out of context.
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it was a gaffe. >> david, the question was about the military action to take out the butcher muammar qaddafi, who was butchering tens of thousands of his people and she was responding to a question about the concerted military action involving arab countries, european countries and the u.s. that is all she was talking about. that happened in october of 2011. benghazi was september 11 of 2012, right. so she didn't forget about anything. she said we did not lose a single u.s. person in the military action to take out gadhafi. there is no question about that. >> you're saying you're saying that the comment she had to walk back on nancy reagan. the comment about the coal miners and comment about libya were not slip-ups. that they were specific answers and -- you wouldn't have change ad thing of what she said, is that what you're saying. i'm sorry. her answer about the military action against qaddafi what i just said. if people want to twist that.
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talk about benghazi they can. david: harlan, the fact you know what has happened as a result of these things. i think she is getting tired personally. and frankly this -- >> come on. david: this campaign has been exhausting for everybody. no come on, about it. ohio by the way has a lot in common with michigan. nobody expected her to miss michigan. she was expected by all polls to win michigan. she didn't in the end. bernie sanders carried it off. is ohio, because it is also manufacturing state and midwest, is that going to be like michigan was, harlan? >> let me go back to that real quick. you know, hillary clinton has shown a pattern of lying. about benghazi, about libya, about a whole host of issues. sidney blumenthal. we're just supposed to believe this is gaffe, she made a mistake this, is taken out of conn text. i don't buy it. i'm tired of getting this line from the hillary campaign and hillary apologists. you know -- we move past that. >> that was fact wall. >> you're spinning.
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this is typical, straight out of the clinton playbook, since the '90s. >> there is no playbook. the playbook people like you twisting what she says. >> if we're on the same team and if i'm, i'm identifying there is problem here what do you think republicans will do in the general election? what is donald trump going to do to hillary clinton in debate on this issue. david: richard, go ahead. >> bring it on, david and harlan know the following. in every poll, 19 of the 20 polls taken in february and march of -- >> talking about polls. not truth. not the truth. >> harlan, harlan, listen i think this is beneath you, beneath a sanders supporter, for you, i understand other people, for you to twist what hillary said. >> bernie may not want to take a shot at hillary but i'm happy to. >> harlan, do you disagree with the fact when we took out gadhafi there was not a single american whose life was lost. david: i will step in here, because my panelists begin
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asking questions we're in trouble. >> you're right. david: harlan, one thing i have problems with, and you know, i don't have a particular horse in this race but the fact that your guy, won michigan and hillary walked away with more delegates. what is up with that? >> well you know, this has been a problem since day one. we knew there was a problem with the democratic primary process when it comes to superdelegates. look, there -- >> they are not superdelegates. pledged delegates. he is behind 200 plus numbers. david: hold on a second. richard, wondering what the bernie people think about that? are they upset about it or not. >> i'm really not happy about it. this is, you know typ establishment democrats trying to cherry-pick who is going to lead the party. david: so if it happens again, in ohio, what happens to the bernie supporters? >> you know, we may not come out and vote for hillary in the general election. we may look at our other options. i know i am. david: richard got the first
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word. >> this delusional. david: thank you, very much. melissa. melissa: whoa. crucial night for republicans. where will we stand tomorrow morning come rain or come shine. marco rubio is not planning on slowing down. >> we'll be in utah tomorrow irrespective. the difference we'll be in utah with a lot of momentum and wind at our back, or we'll be in utah after a disappointing night. this election is not over. melissa: harrison ford returning as hans solo. now the actor is planning to reprise another iconic role.
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fox news contributor, dan henninger of "the wall street journal," catherine ward, "reason" magazine editor. tony, when we wake up tomorrow morning, who won, what will we see? >> marco rubio doesn't win florida despite the fact he indicated opposite he will have to reconsider his candidacy. melissa: you think, seems like he is going to lose. if he loses you think he will drop out not go to utah, even though he said he was going to? >> there will be tremendous pressure for marco rubio not to stay into the race especially the idea ted cruz could be potentially anti-trump. ted cruz could pick up delegates in north carolina, could win missouri. he might leave tonight saying only one that can stop donald trump. on other hand with john kasich wins ohio you could have idea of open convention with enough delegates to deprive trump of nomination.
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if donald trump wins both, it is difficult to change conversation from him being unstoppable force. >> dan, what does tomorrow look like? >> i think it looks like kasich win in ohio. florida, what is going on there, marco rubio is convinced he can not possibly lose by 20 points the way all polls have been suggesting. i think it expects to be much closer to trump. i believe him he says he is going on to utah because he is doing pretty well there in utah. whether this is quixotic on his part is another question. but i think rubio is determined to stay into, to hold on to his delegates. if he quits he probably has to release his delegates. they could go towards getting trump to 1000 mark, would be kind of a moral victory going into the convention. melissa: catherine, sounds like we could have four candidates tomorrow? >> i think everyone much these primary days, we go in, winds up being groundhog day. i think tomorrow will look pretty much exactly like today. trump will be in the lead.
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still be three or four candidate race and apparently harrison ford will be indiana jones. so nothing changes. >> no complaint there. melissa: tony, so how does everybody respond to that. if you still have the four candidates in, i would imagine the establishment is going to go even more bananas than before because they're already going best second -- bez sec. >> here is which i disagree with my come like, most of those contests are winner-take-all. most are closed only republicans can vote. i think there will be idea that anti-trump, unified anti-trump force can take him on but that means others are going to have to leave the race. in it particular case, look obviously kasich if he loses ohio. i tend to agree with dan, he is looking much better. if rubio loses in florida, what he gained in delegates up until this point not nearly what he
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could basically help trump gain in winner-take-all contests if he is taking away from cruz candidacy or potentially obviously kasich. melissa: dan, i'm not sure, you can kind of see the logic the either way. more folks stay in that is good for trump. battling one guy in ohio. battling another guy in florida. maybe from his point of view he would rather face fewer people? >> i would think he would rather face fewer people because his goal is to get over 1,000 delegates. melissa: right. >> he has to get 1237 to get the majority. i think the rest of the party is determined now to prevent that from happening and push this into cleveland. if you can keep his numbers below 1000, it is difficult for him going into cleveland to say i'm entitled to nomination. then you get into truly a brokered convention. i think that is the game these other candidates are playing right now. melissa: katherine, last word, do you agree with that assessment? >> the establishment is split.
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do we go for all in one basket never trump option or everybody down to the wire never trump option and you know, i think it is anybody's guess. melissa: like a jump ball at this point. all right, thank you for clearing everything up for me, panel. that was perfect. david? david: we have breaking news, something may be symbolic what is happening in washington. washington has a subway system which they call the metro. like the pa russian metro, that is shutting down full 24 hours beginning midnight. a lot of people depend on this not exactly chichi folks who have regular drivers. they fear a fire threat from electric cables. we don't know when it will reopen. but for now the metro is closed, melissa. melissa: on a mission to stop donald trump. our panel weighs in on the massive campaign whether it is contributing to escalating political.
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it gives sony sole ownership of works by the beatles and bob dylan and many other musicians. indiana jones are back. steven spielberg and harrison ford will film a new movie in the archeologist franchise set to be released in 2019. oh, i'm looking forward to that. david: a long time from now. more than 20 leading left-wing groups are launching a campaign to call the gop front-runner, calling his campaign a quote, five-alarm fire for our democracy. richard goodstein and tony sayegh are back. progressive call to arms against trump. what is that calling? >> most effective way donald trump can unify already fractured republican party behind him. frankly the american center with it. these are the most progressive, the most far-left-wing groups all coming together in an attempt to take on donald trump in the same old usual way.
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we already see in the republican primary and conservative establishment has failed at this, when you take on trump in this direct way you're going to fail. a lot of these hits they're going to use the are same generic hits they use against republicans all the time. david: richard, give you a chance to weigh in. the fact, republicans spent millions. all these republican pacs which are anti-trump spent millions trying to hurt him. every ad they come out with, he goes up in the polls. what are the liberal groups going to do differently that the republicans couldn't get together to do. >> so i don't really consider protecting environment or protecting women's rights or protecting minority rights as kind of like a out of the mainstream notion. i think what, the reason that republicans -- david: why haven't republicans hitting their target here? >> because they subscribe generally same policies about -- david: no. rich ad the last ad that republicans came out with we showed earlier in this broadcast of women reading comments trump made about.
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that was done by a republican. that hasn't had much effect or that kind of attack. >> well, just came out. why didn't that come out after the whole to-do with megyn kelly last august, david. david: what are you guys going to do different, richard. that is the question? >> i think there will be a determination -- look, it will be a challenge for the clinton campaign between trump's bigotry and racism and xenophobia the way he screwed little people in bankruptcies. list goes on and on. that will be a challenge to figure out exactly -- david: you're not answering the question. >> i can. telling awe long list. david: these ads have not done anything to hurt donald trump in the polls. i'm just wondering what liberals will do. you had your chance. >> tony. look democrats i think are probably among the smartest are actually analyzing this right. you hear james carville. heard ed rendell, former governor pennsylvania. they know you need asymmetric war against donald trump. rehashing these sterile generic talking points using against any
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republican will not work. thing about trump is so dangerous, there is no playbook against him. david, who is a smart strategist, clearly unable going off the old script give you an idea how to take down trump, reality of today. even see republicans who up until today are failing because this is not the classic way you can run a campaign. david: richard, admit it, a lot of republicans admit it, you as democrat admit it. a lot of attacks failed. lot of republicans thought they would succeed. are you surprised they were not succeeding? >> i was surprised going back to the debates last summer every time there was opening for marco rubio or jeb bush or anybody else that they didn't seize it because they were scared to get -- david: you're not answering the question, richard. were you surprised ads are not bringing him down at all, yes or no? you're not surprised. >> i'm not surprised because they have done a really minimal job. the money that has been spent going after trump is dwarfed about of money jeb bush spent after marco rubio.
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do i think concerted effort to bring down trump who is already the most disliked person in the u.s., yes, i think it will make him even more disliked. >> hillary is close second. >> not that close. >> actually not that close, tony. david: republican establishment, democratic establishment, those attacks just aren't working. that simple. >> we'll see. >> thanks, david. melissa: are you feeling unsatisfied with field of presidential candidates? ben carson has a message to put you at ease and lay your fears to rest. so what else is new? how's your mother? umm..she's doing good. she needs more care though. she wants to stay in her house. i don't know even where to start with that. first, let's take a look at your financial plan and see what we can do. ok, so we've got... we'll listen. we'll talk. we'll plan. baird. then your eyes may see it, differently.ave allergies. only flonase is ap relieve both your itchy, watery eyes and congestion.
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melissa: [laughter] ben carson offering rational of for those thrilled not at the prospect of president trump. only four years. david: amazing dream. people have such different notion what is that is. melissa: very true. david: that does it for us. "risk & reward" starts now. >> join me in the white house to make our country all it should be. >> we are going to create an economy that works for working people, not just the billionaires. [cheering] >> there is only one campaign in a position to beat donald trump and win the republican nomination. >> we will address our problems right here in our hometown and revive the spirit of america right here. >> you have to be honest, you have to be correct and you have to be truthful. but you can't say whatever you want to say. >> he will be dead in three weeks. doesn't matter, get out vote tomorrow.
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