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31 people losing their lives. dow breaks the winning streak. [ing bell rings] here is david asman and melissa francis for the closing bell. neil: nasdaq pulling out a lead despite terror attacks. i'm david asman. melissa: i'm melissa francis. this is "after the bell." new at this hour. voting is underway in arizona. republicans have 9delegates up for grabs right now. vigil is being held in brussels, dozens killed when two explosions rocked their capitol city. belgium is on lockdown as a manhunt for suspects continues. david: happening during holy week. perhaps that is not a coincidence. for latest what we know right now, let's go straight to our own adam shapiro in the newsroom
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with the very latest. adam? reporter: it broke in the last hour, authorities in belgium new explosive device containing nails in a brussels neighborhood. this follows attacks this morning. nine americans are among the injured following those attacks at the airport and subway station in brussels. the defense department tells fox among injured are american service member and five members of his family. defense department official actually is telling fox news, some of those injured are critical. investigators in brussels now looking for the man you see dressed in white wearing a hat. it is believed two men dressed in darker clothing were the suicide bombers at airport. the first bomb exploded at the airport around 8:00 this morning. it was followed by a second explosion. witnesses say that explosion caused part of the airport ceiling to collapse on them. another bomb detonated an hour
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later at a subway station at european headquarters. combined attacks killed 31 people and injured more than 230. isis claiming responsibility posted a statement on the islamic state website saying extremists opened fire in the airport and several of them detonated suicide belts. security officers found two kalashnikov rifles at airport. a third bomb was found at airport. in the words of brussels authorities they neutralized the device before it could cause anymore mayhem. it was just last friday the police in brussels arrested wanted terrorist, salah abdeslam for his role in the deadly november terror attack that killed 230 in paris. abdeslam told them he created a new network and was planning new attacks. in addition to the bomb they found in the raid on the apartment in neighborhood in brussels they also found a flag, an isis flag. back to you.
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david: some chemicals too. adam, thank you very much. melissa. melissa: belgian police are searching for at least one surviving suspect. for the latest on manhunt go to catherine herridge, fox news chief intelligence correspondent. you noted very interesting things about the photograph we saw a minute ago. what do you have to report? >> reporter: thank you, catherine. former fbi agents and military officer are drawing fox's attention to the suspects in tan and black on let left of your screen. they both wore a single black glove holding luggage cart. it is evidence of a possible detonator known as a dead man switch. one scenario once the pressure on the handle is broken the bomb is triggered. these switches are used if a suicide bomber is shot and disabled the vest or belt will still explode because this contact is broken. now let's take a closer look at the guy there on the right. the video is not great quality but three sources said he appears to be wearing a disguise.
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coloring between his face and nose appears to be too uneven to be real. sources say he does appear acting as escort for other two men to keep bombers on target. >> what is really important to note that some type of experience is needed for implementation, the actual bringing the bomb to the airport and detonating it at right time. that is what we want to look at to see, you know, is this a cell that has been working? are they linked to what happened in paris and other places around the world. >> reporter: within the last few minutes we had a statement from homeland security secretary jeh johnson and reads in part there is no specific or credible evidence of a similar plot here in the united states. i would emphasize for some context, that the plot in brussels took place when that country and france were on highest state of alert, imminent threat level after the arrest friday. yet these individuals were able to pull off coordinated attacks at the airport and the subway
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station. melissa. melissa: catherine, tremendous reporting. you're always far ahead of everyone else. we appreciate that. >> you're welcome. >> isis claiming responsibility for coordinated attacks but did any warning signs slip through the cracks? we are ric grenell. fox news contributor. sebastian gorka, chairman of the threat knowledge group. let me start with you. there was a former ambassador of israel on in the last hour and pointed to the picture catherine herridge showed us with the two men with the single glove on. they had an escort next to them with what appeared to be fake nose on his face. he said based on this photo these people would have never gotten anywhere near an israeli airport because they look so bizarre with the one glove. there are some warning signs. is that a fair statement, sebastian? what do you think? should these folks have been rooted out before they got to where they could do damage? >> look, it's easy to criticize
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after the event. the fact israel has been living with these kinds of levels of violence for decades. so yes, in israel you can't go into shopping mall in a big city without going through magnetometer. they're on edge and far more tactically aware than we are or perhaps people in brussels. the fact every airport in the world, with perhaps the exception of tel aviv has a non-stair rile area until you get to -- nor sterile area. until you get a boarding pass. anybody can walk into that area. they could have a weapon under their jacket. they could have a bomb in their bag. it is easy to criticize after the event and i don't think it is fair to compare with israel. melissa: let's talk about, rick, let me pose the question to you, i mean after the terrorists were taken into custody, al slaw abdeslam this belgium, they knew this could set off a wave of attacks. could trigger to whatever
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counterparties in the area. he may be talking to and warning of an attack and speed up the clock what could happen. if you couple that that they looked quite suspicious with their single glove, do you think folks in belgium fell down on the job? >> there is no question. whether or not they fell down on the job specifically on this instance they should have notice ad glove or should have notice ad fake nose, put that aside. evidence shows belgian authorities have been lax, no question about that. look how individuals were living openly in jihadi neighborhood for four months that wouldn't happen in other places. europe has tough questions to figure out. are we getting bombers and attack erstwhile they are in the planning phase? if you're going to do that, that means you have to answer some very tough questions about privacy issues and about society's mocking would report
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something like this and have to deal with the fact think would be called racist or anti-immigrant. melissa: sebastian, what about the neighborhood, molenbeek where they were sitting out there and planning events like this for months? there are other neighborhoods in europe and would you crack down on that and -- >> let be me clear i don't want to it president blame on security police and intelligence. the problem are the politicians and policy make is. the people who allowed the multiculturalism get out of control to such an extent where you have enclaves. you have enclaves in belgium and france. highest number of western jihadis in isis come from france and come from belgium. that should tell you something. the idea a man can be a block away from his mother's house four months, the most wanted man in europe and they can't find him? that is part and parcel of a
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policy political correctness that is out of control. melissa: rick, i apologize. we have to go. we'll get more from you next time. thanks to both of you. david? david: president obama is taking heat for not altering his schedule in cuba in light of today's terrorist attacks. he is attending a baseball game between the cuban national team and tampa bay rays. we've got an image here not helping him winch support among critics. look at this. doing the wave at the baseball game while the terror attacks are happening but the president did address the terror attacks moments ago when he spoke with espn. take a listen. >> i had a chance to talk to the belgium prime minister earlier this morning right after the explosion happened and, you know, this is just one more example of why the entire world has to unite against these terrorists. the notion that any political agenda would justify the killing of innocent people like this is
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something beyond the pale. david: president taking time away from the baseball game for that. president obama facing criticism when he asked for cuba's help in fighting terrorism earlier today, when in fact the cuban government has been funding and providing safe haven for terrorists for several decades. we're just getting word now that the president's plane, there it is, air force one, i say the president's plane, air force one, it is preparing to leave cuba. not coming back to the states, going down south to argentina. the president finishing his latin american journey with that trip to argentina. then he will be flying back to the united states. meanwhile here is how some of the presidential candidate are responding to today's deadly attacks today in brussels. take a listen. >> this is just the beginning. it will get worse and worse because we are lax and we're foolish. >> this is not an isolated incident. this is not a lone wolf. this is a war with radical islamic terrorism.
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>> it should be made clear when people die and bleed in europe, we die and bleed a little bit right here in the united states of america. david: on the campaign trail donald trump repeating his call to close the u.s. border following the attacks in brussels. coming up arizona sheriff paul babeu is responding to this. melissa: president doing the wave and appearing on espn while europe is -- david: not appropriate time for that. melissa: security at major airports and subways and train stations today but is it enough? david: voting underway in arizona. soon utah will have its say. how will today's events affect tonight's results? tucker carlson joining us with his take on this. melissa: winning the war against isis. i will ask colonel oliver north what america needs to do right now. >> i hear a explosion. -- facilities going down. i go under the sink. second explosion went and
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3:00 and 4:00 a.m., this is something we think about every minute of every day. david: here is former homeland security director of new york, michael balboni to tell us what law enforcement officials should be doing to combat threats on american soil. mr. pal bony, first of all, the europeans, they have really, they have been making some serious mistakes. they let a number of these suspects fall through their grasp. i'm wondering if we're that much better than they are or we're just lucky? >> what we have to focus on whole issue of resources that came out recently. you had a convention in europe where the brussels group basically said we don't have the kind of resources we ought to v you had paris minister of intelligence, french minister of intelligence sit there and say, we know that there are 600 folks who have gone over from france to get join isis and yet we have a thousand people here we're monitoring and we don't have the resources to monitor.
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david: michael, it goes beyond resources. it goes beyond resources to the question of whether political correctness is really at fault here. abdeslam was walking around openly in the neighborhood he was born in and raised in. he walked into front after police station several times last week without them noticing. >> right. david: there are questions whether they are so politically correct they're literally what they're doing is leading people to the ifing killed. >> well, certainly is hard to imagine that would happen in the united states. look at zazi case, he went from colorado. bought peroxide. came to new york, commit an attack. followed through entire country by fbi and nypd and picked up before he could do the attack. that is intensity we have here certainly in new york city and new york state. what it also goes to have network of intelligence and intelligence sharing. david: right. >> we have the issue in europe. they're not talking to one
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another. david: yes. thank goodness we solved a lot of that problem after 9/11. there are people worried about political correctness here in the united states. a number of the parisian terrorists were born in europe, not necessarily refugees and radicalized in local mosques. we used to look at mosques here in new york. our mayor de blasio stopped that. does political correctness here endanger us here? >> there is practical reality of surveillance. yes there was a time right after 9/11 mosques were targeted in terms of surveilance but the bad guys got that message. therefore they weren't going to the mosques. they knew they could be picked up. it is not just one particular site. david: they're doing it over there, michael. people are being radicalized. a lot of terrorists responsible
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for parisian attacks. they were normal guys. grew up as normal kids. they were interested in engineering and rock and roll bands. they became radicalized when they went to the mosque and had a radical imam radicalize them. that could happen here. >> it could happen, i think better case is san bernanadino nabe bothers -- neighbors of attackers didn't want to call on them. david: political correctness. >> political correctness is problem. what we're trying to do here, trying to prevent behavior. in the united states and as in europe you need some type of action that is criminal. the biggest problem with that is many precursors of an attack are not criminal. allowed to talk about what you believe in your religion. the question becomes what is that moment? that you go from operational and you have to, look if mosques are being used at terror training
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ground we should shut them down even if they claim to being religious institution. michael, we have to leave it at that. thank you very much. melissa. melissa: terror attacks overseas bringing trump's plan to build a huge wall front and center in the race for the white house. that is coming up. sheriff babeu weighs in on the immigration issue in arizona. kasich looking to neighboring state utah for his second win. >> if i won in the race, trump would be nominee, because he would have won ohio. not doing anything for anybody other than my message about the fact that i can win in the fall when neither of them can. every day you read headlines about businesses
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we have very serious problem because thousands of people are coming in from migration, you know, the migration in syria. david: republican front-runner's hard-line stance securing our borders very hot button issue as voters head to the polling stations in winner-take-all state of arizona. joining me sheriff paul babeu, sheriff of pena county in arizona. good to see you again. >> good to see you. david: do the voters make connection between the terror attacks overseas and their lives? >> absolutely. this is the number one issue, the lack of border security, the lack of enforcement of the law when it comes to immigration. this is national security, foreign policy. we have terrorist threats from isis. when we talk about secure border, not just because illegal immigration issue or drug cartels we're fighting, what about isis? if 82,000, 130,000 illegals can come through just in this part of arizona, certainly those with military training, deliberate
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plans like isis or terrorist, they can certainly come in through this unsecured border. david: they could, sheriff, but is there any evidence that they have? >> well, there is nothing to say they haven't. we know ofot just sleeper cells but when you have this sheer volume in the military, i'm retired army officer, we refer to this as the likely avenue of approach. and so when you look at the threat analysis and you look at the canadian border and our ports of entry this is the likely avenue of approach for the enemies of america to come through and that's why we need to secure it immediately. neil: sheriff, i know that you've seen an uptick recently in the number of illegals coming across the border, particularly kids, uncompanied kids which is really worrisome. >> it is. david: trump said he will shut doesn't borders. is that feasible to do? >> absolutely it is. i commanded 1100 active duty soldiers in yuma.
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we have that access of the border absolutely secure. david: how did you do that? >> armed soldiers at the border while we built double barrier fence, complimented by technology. third in sequence, most important, enforce the law. shouldn't be a novel concept. that is what we need to do. david: it can be done. sheriff, thank you. >> thank you, david. david: melissa. melissa: here is another look where markets ended the day, stocks largely unfazed by the attacks abroad. the dow ending the day down 41 point, snapping a -- points, snapping a seven-day winning streak. david: president obama of course is in the hot seat as voters today are pointing fingers to a kind of a void in u.s. leadership. >> honestly i think the intent of the obama administration has been to destroy the military and he has done a good job of it. david: ouch. tucker carlson weighing in on growing concern of an attack and what the u.s. should be doing about it.
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on the ground in brussels, belgium. tara, gel gum had real security failures over the past few days. a lot of these terrorists slipped through their fingers. it all culminated in today's attacks. are bell again people angry at authorities having missed so much. >> i think they are. we pay all this money in taxes what are they doing for us? why are we not safe. this is important. they need to be spending their money on security. and also there is a feeling that in over 120 days, there are only 120 raids in the neighborhoods where they suspected salah abdeslam. david: why is that? abdeslam we mentioned before, he was walking completely unguarded. at one point he apparently walked in front of a police station without being noticed. >> yeah. david: are there areas of belgium that police simply will
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not patrol as they should. >> i don't think it is a case where they won't patrol it. they're limped by privacy laws. can't do raids after 5:00 p.m. david: that is grades sy. tara, that is nuts to have a law like that you can't do a raid at certain time. terrorists know about that that son the move. any change to change the bad laws. >> it is not being discussed right now. it is being evaluated, some of the shortcomings. they're beefing up counterterrorism efforts. they were not spending a lot of money in the past. about 50 million euros a year. this is small country. they're not used to this. david: right. >> this is country where they speak two different languages. you have all these different quarters within brussels within their own mayors and own police forces. this is not very unified city equipped to dealing with crises. david: nothing unifies a crowd like a death does in this case a
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terror attack. let's hope they get their act together. tara palmieri, thank you very much. >> you're welcome. melissa: president obama coming under fire for his brief response to the devastating attack here in brussels. >> where is our president now, doing very much the same thing, to organize organize europeans and organize the middle east and stand up to this threat to defeat this ideology. it is generational struggle and we're way behind the power curve not standing up to it. melissa: he was standing up but sadly he was doing the weave. president's decision to remain in cuba and even attend a ball game and playing into the race. we have tucker carlson, fox news contributor and thank you very much for coming on. i thought general keane articulated what we know well, we have a vacuum and we need a leader to stand up and organize
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first of all, europe, allies and anyone who might be against us. anyone behind a political philosophy, moral philosophy. >> that's right. melissa: and what is going on here and stand up to terror. the president is not doing it. do you think donald trump would? >> i don't know. the president's duty is not simply organize the military forces but articulate the values we're going to oppose this ideology with. i was struck by president's remarks. his first remark was we need to come together regardless of race or religion. as if acts of terror were product of bigotry. in fact they're not. it is not the fault the west it is happening, it is fault of perpetrators. that is not -- people are disquieted. you can't say trump knows a lot, he clearly doesn't or have impressive array of advisors, he doesn't. he has one thing the president doesn't have, which is really clear vision we're write right and they're wrong. you doesn't get that presence
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from the secretary of state or anyone on the left, that global warming is the problem or islamophobia. no it is not. everyone knows it. melissa: he made a great point, it is not just about the military. you have to stand up to lay out the whole thing so the world can come together. you have to organize it. can hillary clinton do that? because she has been kind of in this same space at the same time and maybe hasn't provided the framework or helped president do it. maybe she laid-back and -- >> not at all. it is not just a matter who is the most bellicose. who will drop the most bombs. clearly that is not the answer. it hasn't worked and is not going to work. you need to start with clear position of values. what does the west stand for. why is it worth defending? what brings us all together regardless of religion, creed or race. melissa: right. >> we all stand for freedom ofml rights for women, things like that. they're unwilling to say that out loud because they're ashamed of it. they're ashamed of western values. they feel guilty because of our
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affluence, et cetera, et cetera. they're not leaders in a time of crisis. i mean not just obama and hillary, i mean the left. they're not capable of responding to this problem. melissa: before i let you go, do you think donald trump could articulate that position or find people to help him do that if he is representative on the right? >> trump gets essence of this which is the first step is protecting borders. you're not real country unless you have territorial integrity. a country has control of its borders. people feel that way, not just this country, 20 third of june, i think "brexit" will happen. because they hate the belgians? no. they want control of their borders. that's why. i think our leaders are a long way from figuring that out. i think trump his unique contribution to the race, he does know that that is one thing he knows and he is right. melissa: tucker, thank you very much. there you go. david: republican primary voters head to caucus sites in utah in four hours. governor john kasich hoping for
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second win to close the growing delegate gap. he faces strong opposition from trump and cruz. we have former utah governor michael leavitt. governor good to have you on. kasich is known as wonderful consensus builder but as tucker was just saying, folks out there, particularly voters who go to the polls now, don't want a consensus, they want somebody to stand firm for those things that are threatening our nation like terrorism. >> i don't believe that being cone census builder means a person can not have strongly-held views an strongly-expressed views at the moment they need to be expressed. this is such a time. i feel confident that were governor kasich the president of the united states, as i suspect the other two candidates, would speak strongly, directly, and forthrightly on past of the american people. david: but, again, governor, it appears, whether you're talking about republicans or democrats that folks want outside the system. they don't want to stay within
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the system. they want somebody to really shake things up like they never have been before particularly in light of things that are threatening. >> donald trump has taken that part well. as has others and we'll see how it turn out in november? david: as you well know, some republicans very much against donald trump want governor kasich to pull out so that they can unite with an anti-trump candidate, and cruz would be that guy. why do you not share in that view? >> i think there's a growing certainty that no one is going to get 1237 votes, not trump or cruz or kasich and that we're going to have a quite different republican convention. it certainly not unique. there have been 10 other times and in part of history when that has occurred. interestinglily only three of
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the times the leading vote-getter won the nomination. there is good reason for both mr. cruz and mr. kasich to have optimism this is not going to be a short lived race. david: former utah governor michael leavitt. governor, thank you very much. appreciate you being here. >> my pleasure. melissa: voting is underway in arizona. front-runner donald trump banking on a win in winner-take-all state as immigration remains a key issue for voters. here what to expect tonight is robert graham, arizona gop chair. thank you so much for joining us. >> great to be here. >> i was amazed to sigh numbers about early voters, 35% had already voted by last week. is that record number? are you looking for record turnout? >> great big turn now numbers. polling stations we have lines wrapping around the block. it will be largest turnout we've had in most recent history for sure. melissa: what do you think? most cases it has been trump drive that.
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do you feel it is same thing? >> i think it's a little bit of everything. people are excited. in my offices we had a lot of democrats and independents trying at last minute to change the registration to participate in this election, not just for donald trump. people are so disenfranchised with the way obama is leading this country we're not feeling any of this policies. besides, economic downturn and -- melissa: let me stop you right there. the democrats always say that phenomenon you're talking about right there is not support for the right. it is not support for republicans. it is democrats who are getting in to throw the race on republican side to donald trump or someone they think can not win in a general. was that your feeling from what was going on. >> isn't that great when they make excuses when they're losing? it is amazing, they don't have a message. they're not reaching in their communities. in arizona we've been touching all the communities with the republican party and there is no democrats anywhere to be found. they are losing on all fronts with donations, way they mobilize their base and such. what is happening, people feel like they are not represented. when that happens, they see our
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party in power is republicans they will come to us. they want to be represented. right now they don't feel like it from the boredder to jobs and economy. melissa: you named three issues that are huge in your state. obviously the border is huge. 22% of the arizona eligible voters are hispanic. how do they feel about the border issue and republicans on this? how does the rest of the voter base feel about it? >> yeah, if you polled hispanic voters in our state you will find out that they support border security. i mean you can't deal with -- melissa: is that true? some people do not believe that. they hear trump saying that hispanics are for him. hispanics want border security. no one believes that when that is said. do you really believe it? >> i believe it. we have coalition of latino leaders both republicans and democrat we set up through the arizona republican party. that is one of the big issues we talk about because one thing you don't recognize, when illegal undocumented workers come into our state, whose jobs do they take? a lot of time they're taking
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other hispanic's jobs. whose identities they steal? their hispanic eye dinties. can't steal robert grant. wouldn't fit demographic. they're feeling pressure. for instance in southern arizona there is town that has 25% unemployment still today. even with this supposed economic recovery. and it is largely hispanic. so they're looking for real policy changes and real leadership in the white house to try to bring jobs back. it is interesting time. definitely a fierce competition on ground right now. melissa: yes. we'll see how it turns out. robert, thank you for joining us. >> thank you. david: we'll watch it right here. brussels marked by multiple explosions early this morning. lieutenant colonel north sounding off coming next.
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david: about 10:00 at night in brussels. this is live look at a vigil being held for victims of terror attacks today in brussels. melissa: terror strikes in the heart of europe. isis claiming responsibility for deadly attacks in brussels. former cia director michael morale -- morell. saying it is prove the terrorist groups are winning. we have lieutenant colonel oliver north. president saying isis is win something political statement that is incorrect. they think we are wing. what do you think. >> melissa you have to know the definition of winning. certainly people in brussels, belgium, today or in paris a few weeks ago or christmastime in san bernardino didn't feel like we were winning but the fact is the m-o for these radical islamic terror groups is always the same. attack soft targets, inflict maximum cashing walts on unarmed
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women and children if you can. rely on low can cells to target, gather info and do recon. go after mass transit, airports ticket counters just like they did this morning in brussels but if you look at target last few years, they're getting softer and softer. it is more difficult to get a bomb on an airplane. we do things in the united states and most countries to protect against those things. you look at they go after, it is soft targets. hardening shopping malls in kenya or nigeria orphanages where abu sayf went after a elementary school or london metro and bus attacks, all the attacks were against soft targets where they didn't have adequate information. now the bottom line of it is, if you are going to protect the american people, these countries can do the same, realize signals intelligence no longer works. encryption as we heard from all
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of what has gone between apple and the fbi, encrypt shin and throwaway phones are the way they communicate and that is impossible for us to track. what you need is good intelligence, the kind which ray kelly installed in the new york police department for human collectors going into places where these kinds of characters are likely to gather. number three, don't brag about the successes. look they told the world salah abdeslam was talking. that was four days from then until now when you have this kind of attack. you can harden airport lobbies and train stations. look for k-9s. if you fly el al you can not get near a ticket counter, there is a security profile that is done before you ever get to the ticket counter where there will be a crowd gathered. they have adapted to deal with these kinds of soft target problems. even here in the united states. jfk, or over in new jersey at newark, you can't get near an el
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al ticket counter. melissa: yeah. >> look it, last thing, allow only vetted middle east refugees in the united states. that is proposed by various people in various forms. that is what the bottom line is. finally this is longer term issue you have to deny isis any safe havens anywhere. that is why the special we have coming up on friday night, all day saturday and sunday as well will be so important. that is what the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff told me a few days ago. melissa: colonel oliver north, thank you you need your own show but you have it. >> we do. melissa: see "war stories" with colonel oliver north, friday, march 25th, 10:00 p.m. on fox news. he will give you very information he was talking about. we appreciate your time, colonel. david: our viewers love that show. for very good reason. meanwhile how the west will be won. breaking down tonight's key races as republican contenders fight to get one step closer to the white house. don't let dust and allergies get between you
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david: presidential race heading out west tonight, set to play pivotal role in the white house. both parties casting ballots in arizona and utah. idaho for the democrats. that is where they're holding caucuses. joining me what to expect tonight, american conservative union matt slap. dan henninger from the "wall street journal." dan, terrorist attacks how they might affect voters today. i would think that they would be clearly be an advantage for trump, no? >> well, i'm not so sure about that. terrorism attacks like this, terrorism is always ranked well at top of republicans concerns, not very high on part of democrats. the question will this help trump? as you have been showing, there has been really strong turnout in arizona.
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and typically through these primary early voters who vote before primary day vote for trump. late deciders tend to go for in the past marco rubio or ted cruz. so, if ted cruz closes on trump in arizona, that will suggest to us that his actual response to dealing with terrorism is preferred over trump. david: no. it would be clear if that happens. matt, what about the border issues? arizona of course a border state but there are a lot of his panics there. we saw hispanics go for trump in nevada, republican hispanics. might the same happen here? >> i think that could be the case. arizona is a classic example of a state that has been exacerbated but our inability to control the border. it goes beyond these questions of inclusion in the republican party to new voices like hispanic voices and goes to the basic question is there a certain order of things. david: right. >> i think terrorist attacks like today, bring even that national security element to
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immigration which is so important which is we've got to know who enters our country. david: very important. finally, dan, i have to talk about obama in cuba. we have cover of the "new york post" here. the president with a picture, che guevara behind him, oh, che, can you see? what do we make of this? what does the world make of it? >> very interesting, david, it relates to what happened in brussels. i'm not suggesting that barack obama in any way is responsible for that but obama reached out to ayatollahs in iran with nuclear deals. reached out to castro and previous vladmir putin. obama has this kind of romantic view of the world's revolutionary movements. he thinks if he engages them in good faith they will engage us in kind. here we have islamic state, radical islamic ideology has no interest in engaging us.
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>> think i just the beginning. we are lax and we are worse. >> this is a war with islamic terrorism. isis declared jihad on europe and the united states of america. deirdre: the city of brussels is on its highest alert after isis claims responsibility for a deadly coordinated attack on the belgium capital. the attack started during rush hour.
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