wrap up the day's news like only they can. please be with us for that and much more. thanks for being with us. good night from new york. kennedy: i'm watching the effect of the brussels attacks on the presidential election. it's interesting to see the candidate rush to oversimplify complicated issues like terrorism and immigration. donald trump capitalized on tragedy to reinforce his agenda. like building a wall will change the ideology no one has an answer for. sealing the natural born terrorist in only creates more after news for terrorism.

ted cruz was at the ready with patrolling what he deems muslim neighborhood casting a wide net where civil liberties go to die like dolphins in tuna traps. rhetoric and threats don't come close to solving the structural riddle that taunts both parties and all side. but liberty, economic and civil, even free will are in desperately hotter supply. instead of worrying about he can porting our greatest natural rights and resources, let's logically look at how to preserve ours here now instead of have authoritarianism shoved down our gasping throats. a 6-year-old is taken from her foster family by the government for shocking reasons. kimberly guilfoyle breaks down

that story. i'm glad you packed your bag to join me. i'm kennedy. welcome to tonight. the world is still reeling from the brussels attack and here in america we are trying to figure out how it might affect the 2016 election. joining us is a former navy seal. and dave smith is here, a comedian and host of "part of the problem," and tom shillue is here and he's the host of "red eye." serious very intense times. craziness is happening in the middle of a presidential elect. what's the first thing that goes through your mind.

you wake up one check in with the news and see we had another one of these terrorist attacks? >> it's not surprising. that's the saddest part of the whole thing. everyone knew it was coming. the threat has been there, the city has been in lockdown since the paris attacks. we'll see more of this and you will probably see it in america until we handle this problem. we have to destroy isis where they are in the so-called caliphate in iraq. kennedy: one thing i will say in favor of destroying isis, as a libertarian the most important thing to me is personal freedom and freedom to thrive as human beings. i think those are the natural rights that are god-given. they really want to destroy freedom in every way possible and it makes me hate them. i share your desire to snuff them into the ground. but i also worry sometimes the solutions politicians come up with don't tackle that core

problem. i don't know that we figured out how to tackle that central problem of ideology. but it is problematic, some of the things that have been floated by trump and cruz. >> you can't protect liberty if you don't protect life first. i wish sometimes -- and you won't get this during a presidential season. i wish we could look at some of the mistakes we made. this war on terror. we -- we overthrew saddam hussein. we made a lot of mistakes, we should not repeat those. kennedy: we are talking about creating coalitions and armingal lights who can shift into becoming enemies pretty quickly. it's such a post-modern land cape that it's hard to know who our friends are. a lot of people criticize the

president for a lack of strategy. >> when you are talking about the election of course cruz and trump will come out. generally after an attack people stop worrying about civil liberties, and they start worrying how can we make ourselves safe? it will help them in the short run certainly with voters. cruz has to do something with trump who is seen as being the toughest on terrorism. so he came out with this statement about kind of like going into neighborhood and now he's getting slapped back by the new york police chief. kennedy: bill bratton said you don't have to worry about ted cruz because he's not going to be the president. there are unintended consequences from that. it's not as though in the united states and most major cities you have strictly muslim neighborhoods like do you in parts of brussels. i think applying that here can be very problematic as we have seen.

i want to ask you obviously, you have seen the worst of it. who do you think whose running now would be -- politics aside if you can -- who would be the best commander-in-chief. >> that's a tough question. i have got to go with anybody other than hillary clinton. i think she'll continue the disaster that we have right now. the reason we are in this situation is because of strategic decisions made by our current president and i think hillary clinton would further that. i think this probably helps donald trump more than anybody. even though he just those out rhetoric and doesn't put plans out there, people see him as somebody who is going to tell it like it is and is not going to bow to political correctness and may get the job done. i think's probably the best option that i see. kennedy: i know that he said some interesting things about the military, particularly, and

in that fox news debate he said he would ask military leaders to perform illegal acts and you by law can't do that. do you look at someone like that and do you trust that eventually he will come to his senses and couple a cohesive foreign policy. >> he says a lot of stuff i disagree with certainly. he spouted rhetoric, bush lied, people died. that's the anti-war left. i vehemently disagree with that. he said we shouldn't worry about killing terrorist family an said i'll bring waterboarding back and much worse. waterboarding is not torture. we used to call it training when they did it to me and hundreds of thousands of u.s. troops. kennedy: >> it was training. then we do it to the worst human beings in the world like khalid

sheikh mohammed it becomes torture. when we drop a bomb on a house with usama bin laden that kills woman and children who happen to be there, that's just tough. that's the way it is. it doesn't pay to associate with terrorists. we do an amazing job of trying to eliminate collateral damage. one of the big issues we aren't able to defeat isis is we put ludicrous restrictions on our it in that we can go toed war and get the bad guys without collateral damage. there is nothing illegal by the. you try to prevent that from happening. kennedy: we have to go because we are tighter than a kardashian skirt right now. but we'll come back and we have much more to discuss with this panel. and i will bring handsome jents in.

mike barrack is going to join me about what would really strengthen national security. mike baker joins me when we come back. hey america, still not sure whether to stay or go? ♪ when it's go, the new choice privileges gets you there faster. and now, stay two times and you can earn a free night. book now at choicehotels.com

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after yesterday's horrific attacks in belgium, trump and cruz take the most hard-line position. >> i would close up our borders until we finds out what's going on. the waterboarding and if we change the laws and have the laws, water boarding will be fine. >> as president i will utterly destroy isis. we'll use overwhelming air power and carpet bomb them into oblivion. kennedy: joining me a member of a global intelligence and security. and kfi radio host from los angeles. welcome, gentlemen. they talk about water board and building walls and patrolling muslim neighborhoods. you say those are not necessarily the best practical solutions to thwart a terrorist attack.

what is the best plan? >> it does no good to go into hypotheticals. we are not going to walk the dog back and get into enhanced interrogation techniques. it's not going to happen. we are not going to stop all muslims from coming in here. all that needs to be set aside and focus on ways operationally effective. the unsatisfying answer is we need to do what we are doing and do it in a more efficient and increasingly more effective way. so you have got hard heavy lift of intelligence operations, of developing sources. you have got difficult methodical step by step investigative process. communications selection. the hard work of dealing with our liaison partners. the difficult slog of trying to take aware the territory in iraq and syria. all these things. on top of that you have got to

continue to try to do the muslim community outreach. that's not for touchy, feeley reasons it's because it's operationally effective. we have to develop communication and trust within the muslim community. all those things running concurrently we need to be doing. kennedy: if you talk about pra patrolling neighborhoods, you will be alienating people whose help you need. iraq and syria, clearly magnets for european muslims more than american muslims to go over and radicalize. what is it about the european muslims that make the middle east more after potential place to fight for them? >> they don't feel like they have to assimilate. they are told they can continue in whatever cultural milieu they want. there is not a lot of pressure for them to assimilate.

when they become teenagers they rebel. belgium has the highest per capita isis membership of any european nation. some of these guys are coming home. the bell jumps tracked 85 guys who came back to the molenbeek neighborhood and they don't know where they are. one of the two suicide bombers was detained in turkey and deported back to belgium. this is where the u.s. has an inherent advantage. muslims have done well here. they have a good thing going here. their median income is higher than average americans. they know assimilation is a key. speaking english is the key. anyone can come here and be an american. i can't move to italy and become italian. i can't move to france and be french. we have that inherent advantage it's key to let those community

know they are part of security. a key part of security. kennedy: is isis directly responsible for these attacks, mike? >> muslim extremists are directly responsible for the attacks. that takes the form of the don't know efficient element within the muslim extremist community including the islamic state. under the umbrella of that is boko haram. this is a large network of sympathizers and supports and operators that exist within these community in belgium, franls and elsewhere, and isis because they have got that caliphate, they had increasing amounts of success in drawing in new recruits because they can talk about the territory they have got. they have a support structure in place that's been built up over

the years in neighborhoods like molenbeek which was just pointed out. kennedy: much more to discuss. shepard smith joins me from belgium. and a view from the ground as only shep can provide. the government takes a child the government takes a child away from her family because she

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shep: here we are outside the stock exchange which has become the memorial scene and has been for the last 24 hours. the crowds are enormous. you hear them channeling in the background. from the hotel room about of sounds like a soccer match with chants, one side to the other. but the word they are using sometimes in flemish and sometimes in french. yes to love, no to hate. it's a scene played out in so many corners of the world over recent years where people come together be they light candles and talk about unity and one of the stainls of grief. they are experiencing it in brussels today. they feared and they expected because they understand how difficult the climate is in this city and this region. for today and tomorrow they mourn, then they work to try to begin to fix their problems, kennedy.

kennedy: you recently have broken that they identified the bomb make per and there are direct ties to paris. tell us about that. shep: there are. najim laachraoui is the man they leased to be the bomb maker from the beginning. remember the still picture of the three men in the airport. the middle one was brahim el-bakraoui, the 29-year-old brother of the man who blew himself up in the subway. the guy on the left had not been identified. now we know that najim laachraoui is believed to be the bomb maker. they made a raid in a neighborhood in brussels. they found a lot of sufficient. 33 pound of explosives. 40 gallons of acetone.

the bomb maker's dna was found in the paris attacks in october on one of the suicide belts. those suicide belts contained one pound of this explosive. they found 33 pound of that in this bomb making factory. they believe he was the second person who blew himself up in the airport. they are searching for one man, the man on the right wearing the hat in the white jacket. we know according to witnesses at the airport that he separated from the other two men who blew themselves up and he ran off. no one knows where he went. there are no cctv pictures of that. but the pick picture is this is one cell. both of these brothers had been arrested, one for shooting at a cop, one for trying to carjack someone. one was found with weapons. they were clearly at the center

of this. they had been running a bar in brussels. then they came together and took this plot together. one of the two brothers had been holed up with salah abdeslam. it would appear all the members of that have been located dead or accounted for in one way or another. kennedy: it's carry to think who else is out there. obviously if salah abdeslam was there in belgium in that neighborhood for four months and he was protected by friend and family -- by friends and family, who else are they protecting. where do they go now with the investigation, shep? shep: they wrapped up who all the people are who carried this out, they believe, except for that one man. they are continuing to carry out raid across brussels. they are take a different tactic in notifying the media. they are only giving us details

of a raid it's wrapped up and they know what they are dealing with. the thinking is other people had to have known. who are those people, who is protecting them and how do they find them? over the next couple days, the airport won't reopen until friday and that will only be for cargo. this scene of mourning is the order of the day for the foreseeable future. kennedy: thanks again. coming up later in the show. jason joins me on his journey to becoming a libertarian. the panel weighs in to discuss.

kennedy: it's time to boyne on oddities and tear into red meat. this is the "topical storm."

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topic number 2. there is nothing more exhilarating than leaping into the ocean and feeling the brine wash all over you. though you should be careful about how waves work. otherwise this might happen. that make me so happy. there we go, up, up and away. and down to earth. thank you, isaac newton. fortunately the young man went out on a boat later that day because you can swan dive as much as you like in the deep, deep ocean without fear of hitting the beach. of course, there are other concerns.

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moped is hang on to the canine driver. there are a few things you should consider before you snap into judgment. first, this is in indonesia and drivers in indonesia are terrible it's possible a golden read refer to is a safer bet than a cab driver. second, what if the man on the moped is blind. it's just a seeing eye dog trained to use the moped which makes perfect sense. april fools day is coming up. it's right around the corner. do you have know what would be a great prank? getting your hand on a dinosaur and having it chase unwitting bystanders in a parking garage like these two jokers did. >> oh, god.

she is going to freak out. oh, god. he's going to freak out. that was the religion wanted to show that. it would be horrifying. i don't even like lizard. one time a gecko bit me and i tried to set the zoo on fire. >> it's not about control. it's the relationship. based on respect. >> was that cg? technology is really incredible nowadays. if you have any weird stories you want to see in the "topical storm," tweet them to me @kennedynation and instagram

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kennedy: yesterday an anti-trump pac endorsed ted cruz and put out an ad showing melania trump from a nearly nude photo shoot. all those pac has no apparent ties to the cruz damn campaign. trump responded by tweeting lyin' ted cruz just used a picture of melania prompting ted to respond with this.

>> if donald wants to get in a character fight he better stick with me because heidi is way out of his league. kennedy: i will spill the beans on your wife. it sounds absolutely filthy. >> it does. but i don't think she has any beans. i don't think ted cruz has beans, i don't think his wife has beans. have you seen their home videos? they are good, they are pure, there are no skeletons in their clothes. she has no beans. kennedy: so melania has some skeletons in her clothes, really beautiful skeletons. >> my favorite part is donald trump deleted the tweet right after. it's like in a courtroom drama where one of the lawyers say something and the other one objects.

>> he deleted it, but then he wrote with it again with lyin' ted in it. the first one didn't have lyin' ted. kennedy: the thing i like about stain gram is you can edit your post. with twitter you have to delete something and it makes you look like you are embarrassed by it. now, you won't get as many favorites and loves. are you surprised this ways we are talking about? >> i have been surprised by a lot of this. it's interesting to me, particularly trump is the frontrunner. he acts like the under drawing he could stands become and be presidential. and you would think if your wife was on the cover of this magazine it's pretty public common knowledge. you ought to be proud of it, right? why not. kennedy: she was in the moment. and rightly so.

if i had a body like that -- >> she works at goldman sachs. kennedy: she works sat goldman sachs? she is brillant, too? kennedy: president obama received criticism for attending a baseball game in cuba. this is his reasoning why he didn't rush to europe. >> one of my proudest function as president was watching boston respond after the marathon attacks. but a few days later people were out shopping. people were in the baseball stadium singing the national an them. >> a few days later, not a few minutes later doing the wave. and you are not an ordinary citizen. saying if we don't move swon our lives and do normal thing the terrorists win. >> i think he's completely off base.

he lives in a dream world and he controls the riots and the oceans. he can spin any way. he wanted to talk about cuba. that was the big story. people are literally concerned. christmastime people are worried about going to shopping malls and being in public places. this is a real threat. kennedy: the thing i cannot forget about this president is after the "charlie hebdo" attacks, no one from his administration went over there. when leaders of western europe were locked arm in arm walking through the streets of paris showing unity. where was the president? i understand he didn't want to cancel this cuba trip. he doesn't to come home. he could have gone out in the parking lot next to castro and put down the churro.

you doesn't to sit there in the sands and act like nothing happened at all. kennedy: what would ron paul have done? >> i don't think ron paul would be hanging out with a communist dictator. kennedy: that hypothetical doesn't necessarily work. i think we are seeing a president who is so far out of touch. this is all about legacy. he doesn't even -- lost the consent of what it means to lead this great nation. and in that regard he has given up and therefore he lose. i'm not voting for him ever again. gentleman, thank you for being here. great to have you on the panel. and you can watch laif on "war stories. fighting isis is this friday night at 10:00 p.m. eastern on the fox news channel. it's going to be good and you should watch it.

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>> this week a girl american descent was taken from her foster family due to the indian child welfare act. in the 1970s, the law was enacted to protect american indian children. and she'll be relocated to a new family in utah as a result. kimberly guilfoyle is here. this is such a sad story to me. this girl, she has been with the

family since she was 17 months old. she is 6 years old. it's the only family she knows. what's wrong with this picture? >> why this intercession versus right away at the inception when she was taken from her mother and father because the families they are trying to place her with and have given her to now is related to her by marriage on her father's side. so there is some connection in terms of them being from the same tribe to be able to say she should be with people of her own heritage and background because back in the day they didn't want families being broken apart. there is one compelling argument on behalf of the utah family, they have one of her siblings. her sister there. they say it's not as traumatic as it sound. she has been in monthly contact, visits and trading messages. but the flip side, this poor

little girl is taken screaming, crying saying i'm afraid, i'm scared, from this loving flame that fostered her since 17 months of age. she is 6 years old. how can you $say that's not damage to her. there will be traumatic injury and emotional trauma. they made a compelling case. if you ask the child, where do you think she'll want to be? she wants to be with her foster family. kennedy: when you ask how will this affect you emotionally. there is no way of knowing. you can see it's the most traumatic thing a child can under go at the hand of the government. it reminds me of elian gonzalez. >> if this home turned out to be not suitable for this girl, it will be impossible to overrule the ruling of the tribe to say we believe she is of our tribe and she should be with this family that has this connection.

they almost never overturn those decisions. so i think that the foster flame in utah is going to be in trouble because i don't know how they will be able to get this young girl back. why didn't a judge or somebody listen to what this little girl said saying this was a family she wanted to be with that she knows and loves. she has siblings there, too. they can try and appeal this, but because of this 1970 law, the national child welfare association is saying it will be next to impossible to george turn it. kennedy: it break your heart. >> if you took in a child and you have your kid. if somebody tried to take them away from you. it's awful. kennedy: thanks for being here. coming up, rock star jason navarro.

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>> you are being underon creativity. -- you are being judged on creativity. megyn and kristen, you won the flash challenges. the lay of the land is constantly shifting so use this advantage while you have it. kennedy: that's a clip fromming master on spike tv. one of the junes is guitarist and founding member dave navarro. he has a beautiful documentary out called morning son. it's about his coming to terms with the death of his mother at hand her ex-boyfriend when he was just 15 years old. the documentary is beautiful.

we'll touch on that in just a bit it's a heavy and emotional journey and important one you completed. but before that it want to talk about your political journey. i know you have always been curious and interested in politic. you were a cable news junky and you recently added yourself on twitter as a libertarian. >> i did a ask me anything on twitter and someone asked if i was a democrat or republican and i said i'm a libertarian. primarily because i found there were two paths i was looking at. i didn't fit into either one of those paths. so i needed an alternative. my political viewpoint takes a cue from different parties and different schools of thought. not all of one applies to me. and i think there is a lot of people that that's true for. >> a lot of people get

frustrated because it's not one size fits all. you take a little bit from there. the rest of it doesn't make sense. >> my ocean views are my own and they are not necessarily that of the republican party, then again my financial views aren't the same as the democratic party. i had to find a middle ground as it were. so i feel comfortable where i'm at. frankly knowing that california primaries are open this year, and june 7 i'm from california, i'm happy to take part in those primaries. and as a libertarian still have a voice. kennedy: it's nice that they opened them up because for oh long people were boxed in. >> i was concerned if i had to change my party just to to vote and i don't. kennedy: thankfully you don't and maybe all primaries should be that way. it's a tough time for libertarians in this election.

the frontrunners are essentially authoritarian. i find that, you know, we are in a position now where if you look at the frontrunners, you know, i feel like i'm not voting for somebody, i'm voting against somebody. and that's a really uncomfortable place to be as a voter. now we don't have -- it's not set in stone yet, but it's looking like trump and hillary. ken require many stomach turning because it's the worst of two evils. >> it really is. they are both polarizing for so many different reasons. and i just heard hillary earlier today speak in vocabulary that was just as scary on the left as trump speaks on the right. i don't know exactly what i'm going to do. kennedy: a lot of people in light of brussels and people --

national security is at the top of the docket. >> that plays into trump's entire campaign. he's been accused of running on fear. well, guess what. it's a scary environment. do you know what i mean? our commander-in-chief has been laser focused in the situation room coming up with a plan, he's watching a baseball game. kennedy: what's a more important job, being leader of the free world or being a judge on spike tv. >> i carry the weight of heavy decision make on a daily basis. i have people's lives in my hand. i have to be decisive and focused. i make the tough calls kennedy. kennedy: have you learned how to give tattoos? >> i have done tattoos. i haven't learned because that's a craft that required years and years of training. but i have done some pretty poor tattoos. kennedy: will you come back and

give me a tattoo. >> i get to choose what it has to be. let's do it. kennedy: if you will come back and give me a tattoo i will accept it. just not on the face or neck because that will violate the conditions of my contract. thank you so much. mornings, you have to see it now. >> it many available on i tunes, amazon, google play it's a journey of my coming to terms with my mother's murder, struggling through trauma and drug addiction and coming out on the other side. even if you don't have a tragic event in your life. everybody knows what loss is. i think there is something for everybody in it. you are a beautiful person. kennedy: thank you so much for watching. you can follow me on twitter and

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