because i want to know. is he going to backtrack on the spousal war that he's got going with donald trump? i wish he would. my time's up. charles payne, it's yours, charles. >> thank you very much and happy easter, stuart. stuart: you too. >> welcome to cavuto coast to coast. i'm charles payne in for neil cavuto. and just confirmed. a u.s. special ops team in syria has killed isis's second in command in a predawn raid yesterday morning. defense secretary ash carter saying this just moments ago. >> we are systematically let menating isil's cabinet. indeed the u.s. military killed several key isil terrorists this week, including we believe hadji who was an isil leader, senior leader serving as a finance minister. >> this also just in. three people detained after police in brussels conducted raids today and they are reportedly linked to a frenchman arrested yesterday for plotting a new terror

attack. ashley webster in the newsroom with the latest. ashley. ashley: yeah, it is hard to keep up with but make no mistake. this is an ongoing fluid situation by my count 11 arrests have been made in the last 24 hours in belgium, france, and germaall belonging l as investigators try to figure out who's involved. how far out do these go? eight people arrested in belgium through a series of raids that stretched through the night and into today. explosions -- at least three explosions could be heard as these raids took place. and as you said, charles, three of the people arrested in brussels today. there's a strong connection they believe between this person and a man arrested in paris. and a man who was a convicted isis recruiter who as authorities in france say was in the advanced stages of planning another big attack in france. we also had a person -- two people arrested in germany

suspected jihadist who were receiving phone calls from the belgium bombers prior to that attack on tuesday. we can also tell you there's been concerns, and it has been reported -- although belgium authorities are not confirming -- at least 11 workers have had their id badges withdrawn from a nuclear power plant. there's reports that two brothers involved in the belgium bombings were surveilling that power plant. watching the comings and goings of belgium's nuclear program. now, the question is what were they planning on doing? do they plan on kidnapping him or were they trying to get their hands on the nuclear material in hopes of making some sort of dirty bomb? that is the question. they didn't do that. and they decided to go ahead with their bombings on tuesday. much is believed because salah abdeslam was captured just a

few days earlier, and they felt like authorities could be closing in on them. and also very quickly. belgium authorities continuing to come under criticism, charles. and i think that's partly explains the a lot of action we've seen in the last 24 hours with these raids. the interior and justice administers offered their resignation. the people involved in the bombings the other day were known to authorities as dangerous people who could be up no. no. good. the question is could these bombings be prevented? that is the question they don't know but they're trying their best now to get their hands on all the information. >> ashley, thank you very much. a lot of information. thank you very much. appreciate it. and to france, french authorities arrested a man there reportedly in the advanced stages for a attack on how worried we should be right now about a copy cat attack here in the united states. michael.

>> charles, good to be with you on good friday. i think we should be very worried about other attacks taking place here in the united states. the islamic state has repeatedly said that it intends to put american blood on its hands and to do so by conducting mass casualty attacks here in the united states. i think we can reasonable assume they have trained people who they intend to move here into the western hemisphere, specifically into the united states for the purposes of achieving that goal. >> they say they've arrested, a lot of speculation of the arrest of is a lay abdeslam sped up some of these attacks that might have been in the planning stages. if they believe there are people who are sympathetic or connected to the same organization, could they be in an even more hurry now to pull off some of these would be attacks? >> yeah. there are a lot of stars aligning right now that serve to stimulate attacks in the united states particularly around the easter holiday. it's not just the arrests or the attacks that have occurred in europe.

you also have the news or the claim at least by the department of defense that they have killed a senior figure in the islamic state's hierarchy. so all of that conserved to stimulate interest among people who have not been trained by the islamic state but do want to demonstrate their support for this terrorist group by going out and executing attacks like what we saw in san bernardino. >> i do want to alert the audience, though, fbi director comey says he believes there won't be any -- attacks or any inspired attacks from copy cat attacks if you will. now, we understand a certain agree of his job is to keep us calm and not fearful. but i would have to believe and maybe you can help us out here that the fbi is on heightened alert. maybe even using this as an opportunity to pick up transmissions and things like that. >> i think we can reasonable assume that the fbi and other agencies look at what's occurred in europe. and they recognize, again, that that can stimulate interest among various people. some of whom have never corresponded with external operations figures in the islamic state.

stimulate interest in doing things, small attacks even to demonstrate their supported for the group. so, yes, we can reasonable assume that they're out there working to identify communications. which serve as indicators of potential attack plots or interest among specific individuals or going out and killing americans right now. meanwhile i do think there's a problem with fbi director comey relaying fears in this manor. because what that can do is decrease the public's sense of there being a real threat here in the united states, when, in fact, there's a real threat of similar events of what you saw in san bernardino or worse events occurring. and by, you know, reducing that fear or suggesting to the public that they don't need to be concerned. the public may not be as inclined to speak up if they see suspicious activity. so that's a strategic blunder on his part. >> yeah. some would argue, though, that that thin line of asking the public to be overly vigilant and also live their lives as if they're normal. although things aren't normal anymore; right? michael?

>> yeah. that's absolutely correct. >> michael smith. thank you very much. appreciate it. >> thank you, charles. >> raids in brussels continuing with chemicals found in one of the suspect's apartments. just how easy are these types of bombs to make or obtain? former marine tech johnny jones. you know, johnny, i've got to tell you something. reading how these guys have taken really ordinary household appliances and break them down to their basic chemical opponents and then build bombs out of it. it seems it's hopeless to identify or stop them before these can be done. >> it is. it's very difficult. looking at the substance used primarily for this attack, tatp, the precursors are acetone, which is paint thinner or hydrochloric acid or acid that comes out of cars. so to preliminary identify or defeat an attack. however, you know, the chemical

process, the actual chemistry behind it isn't common knowledge, and it is a way that you can find perhaps google searches and things like that on how to make that happen and search intelligence that way. >> you know, we've all seen or month most of us have these these stories or videos the bomb making factors for isis. and it seems like all of these guys who become experts in this make some sort of pilgrimage if you will to raca, learn these skills, and then come back. is this where we have to be a lot more vigilant with respect to people coming back with these skills? and trying to identify them before they can even start the bomb making process? >> oh, i think that's an incredibly important part of this. human intelligence and in our intelligence community abroad is going to play a vital role if we're going to prevent any of these attacks. one of the things that's notable about this attack in brussels. at least one person, bomb maker they believe traveled from the attacks in paris to here in brussels. and one thing to keep in mind once we start gatheringan intelligence, and i have to

have faith that we will. if they're going to use these types of volatile explosives, they can't make this miles away and bring it in. it's going to be a few city blocks within the attack. hopefully that's a clue and limitation for them that we can use to identify some of these bomb making facilities before the attacks happen. >> joey, here's the thing, though. we keep asking the public to be more vigilant. what do we do? we say, hey, someone bought a whole bunch of old batteries today. how can the average person out there watching this show do their part if you will when it's seems to be so easy for these guys to pick up ordinary items to make these bombs? >> i've worked over 100 ids myself. and to find these things, our greatest asset were the people that lived there telling us, hey, that doesn't look right over there. i saw people working there. really that is what people every day need to be doing. they need to be observant, vigilant, they don't need to be looking at their iphone, they need to be looking around them.

you don't have to be paranoid, just vigilant. and when someone does something suspicious or you see something suspicious, if you see something, say something. especially when it's a high value target. with these attacks in brussels, if there were a lot of key identifiers and really purchasing these products isn't a crime. and nor should it be. however, if you're on a watch list, if we're already looking for you. >> right. >> and know you're known to travel syria or radical islamic views and then you purchase explosives, i don't know why you're in jail right away. >> that should raise red flags and remember two of those brothers were on the u.s. terror list and excriminals in brussels. johnny jones, thank you very much for your expertise. we appreciate it. >> absolutely. thank you. >> secretary of state john kerry in brussels today is a the down with fox news' gregg discussing the optics of president obama during the attacks. >> the optics of president obama being in cuba at a baseball game and

argentina when this was going on. do you have any feeling about that? >> the president every single day is making decisions that are life and death with respect to this war. he has to also continue be president of the united states and do what we need to do with regard to our diplomacy. charles: feature story correspondent in brussels with more. kevin. >> well, charles be this morning when u.s. secretary of state john kerry arrived here, he met with prime minister and told the prime minister that the u.s. will offer intelligence and any other assistance that belgium may need to move forward with this investigation into tuesday's terror attacks. the secretary of state also went to the international airport here in brussels. this side of twin explosions tuesday morning and later raid. now, as this visit was happening, we learned two americans were among those

killed tuesday in the on terror attacks and happening right now here in brussels in the brussels commute of starbeck which has been described as a huge antiterror raid. the mayor of the commune says a man wanted in connection with the terror attacks was detained after being shot in the leg. now, multiple explosions were reported. gunshots were reported during this antiterror raid. and floating around twitter right now is video of that suspect on the ground wounded and a small bomb machine, robot approaching him. so another day of antiterror operations here in the capital. and this is something we've seen. not just for days, not just for weeks, but for months. ever since the november 13th terror attacks in paris. charles: kevin, what's the public sentiment toward president obama and america's response to this? >> well, right now the focus here for belgium is not on the u.s. they're still mourning, they're still grieving. but there is this growing

sentiment, this growing anger at their own authorities. at their own belgium government. last night as multiple raids were taking place, the belgium government decided to lower the terror alert level from a 4 to a 3 meaning that an attack is no longer likely imminent but still possible. many bel belgiums are asking why they would do that knowing that the terror network here is much larger than first expected. charles: they felt they were out of touch in the first place. and i can understand why any citizen would be upset about that. kevin, thanks a lot. we really enjoy your reporting. well, ted cruz firing back at donald trump over attacks on his wife. the latest from the war on the wives. next

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>> it's not easy to tick me off. i don't get angry often. but you mess with my wife, you mess with my kids, that will do it every time. donald, you're a sniveling coward and leave heidi the hell alone. charles: well, the feud between ted cruz and donald trump over their spouses not slowing down. real clear politics rebecca burg says this is going to hurt both candidates in the end. rebecca. >> thanks, charles, thanks for having me. well, we are seeing quite an escalation in this fight over the past few days -- ted cruz calling donald trump a sniveling coward, pretty strong language. but i would actually say that that sort of exposure of ted cruz partiality defending his wife against donald trump, probably a positive for ted cruz in the long run. now, donald trump maybe a positive for him as well if he is able to portray ted cruz as

someone who attacked his wife. of course this is actually a group totally unaffiliated with cruz that ran this ad that started this whole fight. but a lot of people by this point have forgotten that. so there's certainly pros and cons. charles: so when you say people have forgotten -- they're saying that the super pac represents ted cruz or could have said something. because what i know so far i don't think ted cruz has disavowed the super pac. i know he has distanced himself from the ad itself but not the super pac itself. >> right. to begin with, this wasn't even a pro cruz super pac. so we think of certain super pacs that are affiliated with campaigns, although they can't coordinate. this group is completely outside of the cruz orbit. the cruz network of outside groups. this is one that really was created just to go after donald trump. and it just so happens that donald trump in a tweet was able to associate this group with ted cruz. charles: and that makes it even more interesting that ted

cruz wouldn't denounce them; right? we know who the person is; right? i think it's liz, and she put out a statement saying they only spent $300 on this, which is interesting because they've gotten millions of dollars out of mileage out of it. >> they have. although not all positive. charles: but, again -- we know this back and forth when these things happen, it's like any kind of feud. you almost forget how it started, and you wonder what the heck it will take to end it. >> right. it is -- i'm actually curious to see how really it's at this point come down to both candidates insulting each other, defending their wives. which ultimately maybe won't mean a lot to voters. but i think that the sniveling coward line from ted cruz is one that will people remember. it was a moment where he was able to stand up and really get a lot of attention for defending his wife. charles: but you don't think it will backfire on him the way marco rubio's aggressiveness and talking about sizes hands and things backfired on him? i will say to your point earlier, though, right now according to the latest cnn poll the unfavorables for

donald trump with women are 73% and ted cruz 60%. these numbers probably won't go up for either candidate as long as this goes on. >> right. so the reason that donald trump really didn't have anything to lose by engaging in this fight is because he's already disliked by women. already thought of as someone by many voters as someone who is not respectful of women. this is loved by others throughout the campaign. so this not a team that ted cruz is trying to make, trying to strike at this stage. so it probably won't hurt donald trump in the long run he's taking this risk. but ted cruz at least has had a moment to be able to come out and defend his wife. and that's never a negative. charles: all right. we'll see how the plot continues to thicken. thanks a lot. appreciate it. >> thanks, charles. charles: well, bernie looking to rack up delegates over the weekend. but still really far behind hillary. we're going to tell you exactly what's at stake. tomorrow

charles: democratic presidential hopeful bernie sanders looking to rack up some delegates tomorrow out west. more delegates are up for grab in washington state, hawaii, and alaska. peter barns in dc with the latest. peter. >> yeah. that's right, charles. sanders going up against clinton for 142 delegates this weekend. washington state is the biggest prize with 101 delegates. analysts say sanders has the edge in washington because its voters are mostly white and heavily liberal. and seattle ranks number one amongst the big cities for per capita contributions to the sanders campaign. all of this may make washington the most favorable state for sanders outside of vermont and new hampshire. he has complained there a lot,

arguing at a rally yesterday that based on a new poll, he would be a better democratic nominee than clinton. >> secretary clinton would do well against mr. trump. she beat him by 12 points. we beat him by 20 points. i was a little bit disappointed. we want to beat them by more. but 20 points is a good place to start from. >> now in the wake of the terrorist attacks in brussels, clinton has been targeting trump as well. >> dividing us. engaging in hateful, discriminatory rhetoric does not work. and it plays in the hands of terrorists. and i'm not about to do anything that does that. >> now, as you know it takes 2,383 delegates to win the nomination right now. clinton has 1,700, sanders has

more than 900. charles. charles: peter barns, thank you very, very much. >> you bet. charles: well, ted cruz's new york citizenship battles has come to an end. we'll tell you what the decision was and what it means to the new york primaries. next at mfs investment management, we believe in the power of active management. we actively manage with expertise and conviction. so you can invest with more certainty. mfs. that's the power of active management. [engines revving] you can't have a hero, if you don't have a villain. the world needs villains [tires screeching] and villains need cars. ♪ theno one surface...out there. no one speed... no one way of driving on each and every road. but there is one car that can conquer them all.

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>> a new york court reject did. because of his canadian birthplace. charlie gasparino on why they rejected this. >> because it is absurd. [laughter] donald trumps attacks on cruz and whether he is legally able to run for president. we are pretty much trumped up. i do not think that any state would -- this is campaign rhetoric. >> he was not born in america. the guy was born in canada. >> you are a military person. suppose they had you overseas. would you be an american citizen? >> i would be, yes.

once the marriage thing happens, you are kind of an american citizen. here is the difference. to american parents have a kid overseas. i do not know where he got his law degree. maybe he got it at trump university. >> there are some democrats. i have heard there are threats. >> they will be thrown out. >> some people questioned ted cruz citizenship. >> some trump supporters that would never go for cruz anyway. if there is really no legal basis in voting against ted cruz

because he was born in canada, so absurd, why would you even care? >> i have not heard one noble legal caller except for maybe someone on the far left or far right. why would you care. to american parents. >> the fact that the matter is, you bring it up. ever engaging in this conversation. the national enquirer. i am not saying it is true. the national enquirer which has a good record, they broken other

stories. by the way, that is the biggest story. the number one trending story on twitter. we put in a call to see what he said. i like to hear him take down that story. >> personally, i would not. i do know that they break with a lot of stories. [laughter] a little bit above the national acquirer. the one billion-dollar mark. a bankrolling of super packs. 2012. david on this price tag to get

into the white house. i remember a couple years ago when it was a billion dollars. now it is a billion just to become the nominee. it cost a lot of money for candidates to come. you have so many candidates that are all competing for money and they are able to find newer sources of money that add to that total. it will be interesting moving forward. at least as it relates to some of the elections in the states. whether or not that is an achievable goal for the national parties to be able to achieve their ultimate nominee. charles: these very wealthy backers and super packs. that is a lot of money. particularly candidates on the republican side which are dropping like flies.

what are they trying to protect? do they really have the good intentions of america? >> that makes for an interesting story line, so to speak. a lot of donors that have political beliefs. one way to advance their personal philosophies are support candidacies. in some instances, you have people that are wealthy. i think you see in other instances, there are other ways of getting messages across. successful in grassroots. clearly, a lot of the college folks participating in that do

not have nearly the financial means that the donors do on the republican side. you see people trying to advocate for their own personal beliefs. whether or not it is hard dollars or whether it is volume. >> bernie sanders. the average donation 40-$50. wasted over a hundred million. it is one thing to say i am advocating for my thoughts. these people are protecting a power base that is seeing them do very well. i know you are a ruby all back her. eight jeff backer. >> this is why we are getting at the election we are getting out right now.

>> whatever it is defined as in the particular day that we discussed the quote unquote establishment. i am not here to defend washington or to defend the establishment. i do think that people are going to the polls and they are voting with what they believe to be the government necessarily acting on their behalf in a positive manner. i think a lot of back and be contributed to the current administration. they see what is going along. meaningful directions in terms of combating isis. they are voting for a polar opposite. reflected in donald trump. senators sanders has generated a

lot of support. this race has framed it that way. i think it goes a little bit more towards the administration. >> both parties. the establishments across the political aisle. they think super packs are part of the problem. not part of the solution. >> hq for having me on. charles: we are on for business. cannot wait for this. he will tell us where. ♪ there are two billion people

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connell: we have a business a letter for you. i am connell mcshane. the "wall street journal" broke the story. the company slows down the streams on purpose. at&t and verizon. why would they do that. why would they slow down the streams. you use it on your phone. if you use up all of your data, you may be less likely to use service like netflix. this has to do with hacking. one and a half million customers. they have their information posted online and put up for sale. they said the hackers priced it out at different rates. in other cases, you have parts

of the information available. notifying customers that have been impacted by that. we have some not terrible news involving the irs. 73% of the calls that came in to the toll-free telephone hotline. more than double what they did last year. the average wait time. down about nine minutes. at least you know if you call the irs to complain about it. charles: i saw that report on twitter. i do not know if there's a correlation there or not.

>> thanks a lot. the first time in six weeks. we did grind to a higher close yesterday. it is not all bad news. we have the gloom and doom report. seeing some opportunities in this report. whenever a bear becomes bullish, i sit up and take note. >> first of all, i want to wish your viewers happy easter. they are good and healthy. there are some rotten once. >> i will give you some healthy ones. there is a huge shift owing on in global market. horribly over the last few

years. the emerging economy. relating it to commodities. they have come roaring back. brazil is up $10. 23%. columbia 18%. turkey 15%. indonesia 10%. a lot of things have happened. mining companies. gold and silver. the -- now, many of these phase correction. i think what we are seeing is a huge change in the markets from

the so-called high quality in the u.s. facebook, amazon, google. markets that have largely gone down a lot. in particular, in today's world. >> could i do a deer? >> indonesian, singapore company. they are relatively inexpensive. once an agricultural plate. >> before i let you go, some of these things were so oversold. coming back 100%.

some of them are also red flags. is that an overall red flag? >> i think that it is a good opportunity. given the money printing in the world, i think it is very reasonable. you have to be diverse of five. everybody is so bearish on china. they have discounted the fact there's. >> it has gone from 60 to $94. i have to let you go. happy egg hunting. >> a rotten egg. an organic egg. charles: we will. thanks a lot. loan forgiveness.

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not have them anymore. it does not really solve the problem as a whole. >> what do you make of this? there is this growing feeling out there. somehow they were snowbird or they overpaid. an obligation by someone else to pay these loans. >> i think that it is because tuition has just gone up exponentially. our job market stayed the same. tuition is going. >> you could have also gone to a trade school. you come to my house, i would probably need you once a month. we just had a tree fall into a pool. there is a glamorous thing. you get to hang out. i do not know if you can have it both ways.

>> i do not think you should have it both ways. we are not necessarily going for the right reason. okay, everyone just goes to college, that is what you do. maybe i can just start up a company. maybe it is for fun. >> what about politicians? hillary clinton. they always deal with this wink wink at some point we will make sure. they always hint at, i guess bernie sanders is not even hinting. we will get someone else to pay this. >> i think that they are just feeding into millennial's. i disagree with that. i do not think that a lot of

millennial's understand that. we will just get them from your taxes anyway. now you are paying your student loan and whoever else is going to college. >> $8 trillion now. some point later when you actually get a job, you have to pay someone else's back if you go down this path. they do not put this together. now you have these entities out there. whoever gave wesley snipes his tax advice. taxes are illegal. do not pay them. i have your back. >> they are bringing in the crowds. they are telling millennial's what they want to hear. again, it does not solve the problem at all. >> a better job market. a better economy. we need to tap the interest rates.

i have a lot of student loans. i think that that is a little bit riddick u.s. college tuition. something that we need to focus on. >> the government took control over it. there is no law that they will not say no to. you think we should try to find a way to get a permit out of this. it makes all taxpayers liable. over a trillion dollars in new loans. >> absolutely. we will make it more sufficient by removing them. >> you are smarter than him on the economics. thanks a lot. >> we are taking out isis resources. the terror group is using

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. charles: this is cavuto coast to coast, i'm charles payne filling in for neil cavuto and a major against terror, major ops in syria killed isis second in command. had a 7 million-dollar bount on his head and now after conducting raids today in brussels convicted for plotting new terrorist attacks. françois ha hollande speaking out. >> that's right. hollande was speaking out of the network being wiped out. but he says other networks continue to pose a threat. and we are starting to connect the dots a little bit more now between the attacks in paris last november where 130 people

were killed to what we've just seen in brussels the past week and those attacks on tuesday. we've seen about eight arrests. that's the last number we've seen in belgium. we have two arrests in germany. and one overnight in france. the arrest of an individual in france has been said he was planning to conduct what they saw an advanced attack in paris. now, what's interesting is authorities have identified najim lacrouy, now, he was the second individual at the airport, the second individual of the photograph that you can see the three people walking into the airport. interestingly enough, charles, his dna was found at the sites of the paris attacks last november. so there, again, what we saw happened in belgium and this attacks in paris. i want to also talk about the casualties and those that were killed and there's that picture, by the way, the individual on the far left.

his dna was found at the paris attacks. also responsible for the bombing. one of those bombs that went off at the brussels airport on tuesday. we do know the two individuals sascha and alexander were the two siblings that died at the new york airport. and andrew como saying this morning that new yorkers were sad to learn that two of our own lost their lives in tuesday's senseless terror attacks in brussels. their lives were cut short by cowards who chose extremism and hate instead of peace and unity. on behalf of all new yorkers, i express our deepest prayers and condolences. there's a picture of the two siblings. they were in line at the delta ticket line when the bomb went off and they succumb to their injuries. also the latest attacks in syria. and the taking out of the

number two man in isis. john kerry, the secretary of state was in brussels earlier today. he said that the pressure being put on isis, especially those who run this terror organization is partly responsible he believes for the increased attacks we're seeing in europe. that, in other words, as isis continues to lose ground and lose his leaders, the reaction has been increased bombings in europe. so it's good news, bad news scenario, but certainly they are trying to find out how far this terror network in europe extends. and how many others might be up there, charles. charles: ashley webster. thank you very much. appreciate it. >> sure. charles: well, the bombings in brussels, terrorism expert on how groups use these to take out attacks. and a lot of people are worried about you see these loan wolf attackers who are

often inspired by this kind of stuff and of course we're entering a very religious weekend here in america. >> we are concerned about isis. and it's inspired worldwide. not only in europe but also here in the united states. because right now they are feeling empowered. they are feeling that they are succeeding in standing up against the bullies and western nations. what they consider as bullies as the strong europe or western countries or america. and they are feeling that à la is on their side and that's how he's protecting them. advancing their cause. how else can you explain in their mind this is what they're thinking. how else can you explain that a handful of weak men are able to stand up against governments and shut down basically governments that bring cities to their needs, such as what's happening in europe right now. charles: well, that's obviously the rational spin on ashley webster just saying, though, according to john kerry, these increased attacks

are a sign of desperation on isis, which of course lost number two man yesterday in syria. so is it just a message -- >> not necessarily. charles: okay. >> not necessarily. they are not feeling that they are losing ground and that's why they're attacking to the opposite. they are feeling empowered. right now they are feeling that they are all over europe and now they can mobilize, they can organize. especially with the influx of the large number of refugees who came into europe. right now they feel that the europeans are afraid. they are weak. look at what happened yesterday. a man posted on his twitter account that he basically asked a muslim woman about the brussels attack, and he ended up being arrested. so the west is afraid to even fight or stand up to the principle and stopping over their freedom of speech. so this is why they're feeling empowered and mobilized because they feel this is their chance. europe is weak and america is led by a weak leader that's not going to take real serious

attack or initiative against isis. the dropping of bombs here and there. isis doesn't respect. it doesn't do that much damage. it makes america feel good about itself. charles: well, i'm not sure how good america feels these days. and i think to your point more and more would like to see isis eradicated even if that means putting troops on the ground. but ultimately do we have to go in there into places like raca and annihilate this and destroy isis as part of dismantling worldwide? >> yes, we do. we have to go to war. and we don't have to send our troops and our armies. we can send very little units overseas and train and work with the arabic countries in the middle east who are as much threatened by isis as europe. look at the saudis. threatened by isis. even though the majority of saudis may agree with isis because isis basically stands up for everything the saudis have been teaching their

population for years. but the saudi family would lose power. other nations would lose power as well. so it's in their best interest from jordan to egypt to saudi arabia to send in their troops to fight isis on the ground while we manage and support them in the management of the operation. we have to go to war. that's the only way. charles: thank you very much. appreciate it. and have a happy easter. >> thank you. to you as well. charles: okay. donald trump talking up a tough stance on terror this campaign season while the establishment only stays tough on him. maryland's governor one of the most recent to say he may not even vote if donald trump is the nominee. gop fundraiser on whether this actually benefits or hurts donald trump. we know noel certainly this kind of rhetoric from the gop establishment helps donald trump immensely among his already mass of supporters. but does it help him build out that base? so it's all of these establishment people trying to say, hey, we won't vote for

him, and we don't want anybody else to vote for him. >> no. it's not going to help build the base. but what it's going to do is fuel the engine of the trump train. you know, he built his entire campaign much more around his brand, charles. and it's almost like the washington d.c. establishment elite versus the big donald trump brand. and it's really, really catching on. and that's -- that's the heart of it, charles. that's what's really taken off is the fact you've got someone out there saying, well, if trump gets it, i'm not even going to vote. absolutely nonsense but all it does is work for trump. it fuels his voters. it fuels these people that are rah-rah in trump. and it makes him the official candidate that is going to stand up for terrorism. speak his mind. forget about the pc, and i think that's the movement. charles: that's the movement. i'm asking does it expand

further into the gop that still continues? and how will it play out in a general election? if hillary clinton says these major figures in the gop -- in a republican party won't vote for donald trump, why should any independence vote for them? that's going to be a loud message that a lot of people are going to ponder. >> you're right, charles. the division within the party over donald trump is wide. and i think it's widening. but you've also got to look at some of the other people that are coming on board. you just had rick scott, the governor of florida endorse him. you know? you've gotten big billionaires someone like steven wynn who is a notorious giver endorse and back donald trump. so you've got to look at some of the establishment. maybe moving towards. and you know what? if he does get the nomination, charles, realistically there's going to be some establishment republicans that are going to change their tune. because what's worse? it's hillary clinton. and a lot of people if they

wake up and the reality is it's donald trump, they're probably going to like lindsey graham says, you know, hold their nose and get on the trump train because it's a lot better than the alternative. charles: you know, donald trump has suggested that some of these anti -- or never trump folks have actually been in touch with him. and i expect soon to your point maybe we'll start to hear some of them say okay. what you know? that was misleading. miss guided. we're going to change our minds. but don't you think it has to happen sooner rather than later? >> you know, i think they're holding out. a lot of these antitrump people, they're passionate about it. they hate him, they think he's inept and blow hard and they've said it publicly. they've damaged that part of it. but i think, you know, i really do feel like in the very end if he is our nominee, it's really not going to help anybody if they sit out. are they just geosit out if he gets the nomination? how far are they going to sit out? . charles: certainly sitting out

would be a vote for hillary. no matter how anybody rationalses it and who the gop nominee is. noel, thanks a lot. >> right. charles: senator lindsey warren praising of the hillary clinton battles. but stopping short of nixon we'll be right back

charles: bernie sanders getting praised from elizabeth warren ahead this weekend's democratic races. warren saying yesterday quote he has put the right issues on the democratic party and for the country. so i'm still cheering bernie on. whether that's enough at this point. i would think they're ideologically brothers and

sisters in arms if you will on the socialism side. and yet elizabeth warren has not gone all the way to push him over the finish line. why is that? >> i think that's exactly the right question. why not? they are very closely aligned. it's very much a similar platform to which she ran on in massachusetts. so i think the fact she stayed as neutral as she has. actually speaks very -- a lot to her support for clinton. like, there would be nothing more natural in the world for her than coming out for sanders. so i think the big question here is -- is it the fact that sanders can actually get anything done? he hasn't been effective as a senator. so ideologically warren should be there with him. but the fact she has stayed as long as she has, says a lot. charles: i think that's true. she has catapulted to queen maker if you will in the democratic party. if she ran, she had a better chance of beating hillary than

bernie sanders. now, having said that, is she starting to lose some of that appeal? if she's groove it both ways, she's not the maverick that she looked like she was going to be. for the socialist side of the party. or is that the entire party? is that being redundant? >> no. she definitely does represent a far left side of the party. and i think she brought -- she brought to light a lot of issues that a lot of people like to care about the cross appeal not just the democratic but overall. particularly she really was the first one to talk very broadly about student debt and student debt refinancing, which has become a huge upper back, especially for millennials. charles: so why now these has she endorsed him? why isn't she making the fiery speeches on his behalf? hillary clinton has taken a ton of money from wall street. she despises wall street. that would nullify anything she has talked about at this point. if i'm one of her followers, i lose all faith after this. >> warren has a strong

following. move on, which is one of the largest grassroots left organization had a huge draft warren for president movement going on. you know, for months that was going on. like, she definitely has a strong following. and she really could swing a big piece of the democratic electorate if she wanted to get involved. so i don't know what her reasons are for not noting to. but there's definitely something there that she's not naturally aligning towards sanders and sticking towards clinton. i think what a piece of it may be big pieces are policy platforms between clinton and sanders. the drastics are still there where they would put money in investments. the difference is scale. sanders saying tax everybody. tax in tons. we'll make everything free. well, clinton the entire time has been running as if she has to run on those platform. and she may win, which i would think she also may have on win and stuck on these things that she promised aren't real i can of. very realistic in her platform so far.

charles: we've already seen the higher taxes, higher regulations, and more fees. i think it's a tough platform for her to sell economically. but you are talking about the party being pulled further and further to the left. has she drawn a line in the sand? because she's even talked about bernie being a socialist from time to time. >> yeah. the democratic primary has actually stayed pretty vanilla. you know, they basically do debate on policy issues. maybe they get into a little bit of ideology. but it hasn't been that extreme. and certainly nothing what it looks like on the gop side. and i think probably because they know one of them will have to run as the democratic nominee, and it is likely going to be clinton. i do thank sanders stays in the race now and stays in for a while just because he's there for the ideology. like, he's not really there. charles: and rockstar stuff it happen it was funny when you said the democratic race has been pretty vanilla so far. a lot of ways of interpreting that. but, emily, have a great weekend. okay? >> thank you you too.

thanks for having me. charles: well, the days of using debit cards at atms, well, they could be coming to an end. we're going to tell you how the new move towards cardless cash is evolving

charles: well, a company is rolling out new technology and thousands of atms across the country and enabling them to accept smartphones. so would debit cards be a news of the past? lauren simonetti. >> so the name of that company is. and the next year and a half they will have 80,000ams blanketed with this technology. take a listen. >> use your mobile banking app to use money from your atm without having to put a card in the machine. >> so we're talking about the ability to get cash out of

your account with only your smartphone. >> that's right. >> and you say that should make if he maine feel safer. >> well, there are a lot of vulnerabilities in using your card. there's skimming and that's someone gets the number of the card and uses it without your aughtization. >> what happens if someone steals your phone? >> so the good news is they would have to steal your finger as well. >> i'm very eager to see how this works. >> you simply press the mobile banking app and log in the way you normally do. i see i have about $215, i'm going to order a $20 withdrawal from the account. press this menu button that says mobile cash. it's going to generate what's a qr code. scan the qr code and you say do you want to take $20? and i say, yes, i do. >> how much faster is this? because i take out my atm and put in my card, and it doesn't take long to do it. >> it takes about 20 or 30-second, you just scan the screen really quickly.

10 seconds. >> i don't believe you can take out money with your phone in 10 seconds. so go. >> $20 request is in. processing. the machine coming to life. >> five, four, three, two -- >> here it is. >> time's up. >> i think that counts as ten seconds. that was pretty darn close to ten seconds. >> your mileage may vary, lauren. >> so it's a little bit faster and certainly safer, charles. i was saying okay, i mean what if someone steals your phone. but doug said they would have to steal your finger too. so if you want to save a whole 30 seconds and not have your information potentially skimmed at the atm, which is ironically a very popular place to steal people's information because atms are unattended. well, the smartphone atm is your solution. charles: we're so connected with the smartphone. people leave the house with nothing but the smartphone. >> birthday suit and the phon. charles: got it.

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"cavuto: coast to coast." gop looking more closely, now the establishment as ted cruz as two major houston-based jeb bush donors turned to the senator. ashley pratte and lachlan markey if the big endorsements even matter. it feels more and more, do you want jeb's name associated with you at this point in the race? >> i think if endorsements really mattered all that much rubio would still be in the base because he was running away in the endorsement game but i think it does signal a larger shift in ted cruz's favor and against donald trump from major supporters in the pro-israel community. i think after trump's aipac speech, he tried to put those fears at ease but i don't think it is coincidence for first time he was using a teleprompter. when he is going off-the-cuff and talks about israel he tends to alienate a lot of people very supportive of the jewish state and make up a very big part of the republican base. charles: so are these -- maybe i'm missing something, ashley. are these specifically jewish

donors? how did aipac get this? >> these two specifically, they used to be bush supporters. one i believe leads the republican jewish coalition or has some influence there. charles: okay. >> that is how aipac comes into this. seems though after the speeches i believe on last monday this is now kind of the key factor, is that speech and ted cruz being the one who can really help when it comes to his policies and ideas as far as foreign policy and inies rail. seems endorsements really do not matter except for the fact that the bush network will really lay the ground game for a contested convention which ising talked about. that is where cruz will benefit. charles: reading story how ted cruz actually picked up more delegates i think in louisiana. so, this ground game thing and how to play the back end of this does matter if it gets to contested convention. i do want to say, donald trump did use a teleprompter. i looked at speech i think it

felt like he went off after obama but that was the point during the speech that got biggest applause. aipac apologized said they didn't like that, lachlan, that seemed to resonate with the crowd than anything said that night. >> i don't think it is controversial to say president obama has not been particularly good friend of israel. mostly we see what his administration thinks in leaks or off the record quotes that end up in major publications using some very derogatory and unfriendly words to describe the prime minister netanyahu for instance. i'm not surprised that got a lot of applause. trump, his position on israel like everything else seems to change on the day or who he is speaking to or the mood he is in at that particular moment. charles: let me break in hire. we have breaking news. ted cruz was speaking earlier today. moments ago he spoke about this battle of the wives, if you will. take a listen to what he just said.

>> heidi has done nothing to donald. we have done nothing to his family and we will not. but donald was unhappy with the news of the day, was unhappy with losing elections. was unhappy with his dangerous ignorance of foreign policy being revealed on the world stage. so i decided to engage in a personal attack directed at my wife and directed at my family. i don't make a habit out of supporting people who attack my wife and attack my family. and donald trump is not going to be the republican nominee. charles: all right. that's, ashley, as close as it's come so far. ted cruz saying would not support donald trump in general election if he is indeed the nominee. does not make a habit of people attacking his wife. if that is the official position, what does it mean for the race here on out? >> this is really interesting, charles, from the fact beginning

of the race, the two were talking about being each other's vice president. ted cruz because of this war of the wives so to speak, really coming out against donald trump swinging. first time he see him angry, saying donald you're a sniveling coward and saying strong language that -- charles: what about the pledge, ashley. pledge gop shoved down donald trump's throat. i think ted cruz made the same pledge. will he go against that pledge. >> he did make the pledge. he said in the one of the final debates he would support whoever the nominee is. as this gets more into the gutter as he is describing. we'll see a lot more from the candidates left in the race. kasich says this is toxic environment he is creating. i'm not sure he would come out and support trump as well as if he were the nominee, leading idea of contested convention where cruz would be likely

beneficiary if it does get that far. charles: guys, we have to leave it there. gop disintegration is really amazing to watch and witness. thank you both very much. we appreciate it. >> thank you. charles: well candidates may be protesting each other but when someone wrote 2016 on a sidewalk at emory university, well the students protested. in fact they erupted and demanded the school disavow trump and his supporters. school denied the request and foundation for individual rights and education policies samantha harris says, no one's in the wrong here. you know, samantha, of course leading up to this whole idea of safe zones and safe spaces repression of freedom much speech, first amendment on college campuses was a big story. what is going on at these college campuses people can't voice opinions or even trump's name in chalk is considered offensive to people? to the point where they feel like they're being threatened? how do you reconcile that?

>> well, i mean, i think that you really have two things going on. one is you have the student protests. then two, you have administrations who are so concerned about maintaining order on campus that they are willing to, you know, exceed to these protesters, unclear whether the protesters, at emory for the that the protesters were demanding disciplinary action for chalkers but emory president said he would be reviewing security footage and possibly taking disciplinary action against the chalkers. he has since walked that back because you know, as we know, emory has gotten a tremendous amount of negative publicity over this. underscores the fact that often times college administrations first response to any sort of student discontent to appease and offer to censor that undermines commitment to free speech these university have made. charles: yet it happens over and

over again. there was an additional story saying build a wall, being near a latino, one of these places for latino gathering was seen as a form of intimidation, like almost as a form of violence. is that a bridge too far? >> is the speech a bridge too far? i certainly -- charles: seeing that written on a wall, say it is latino student center and someone writes build a wall in chalk next to it, should they consider that an act of almost physical intimidation? that is the narrative coming out of emory? >> right, no, under the law, under free speech law that is not intimidation. certainly i understand why people would find that offensive but people are allowed to say a lot of things that other people find offensive. the reality is, that once we begin allowing the subjective reaction of listeners to dictate what speech is and isn't permissible on campus, it become

as slippery slope where anything could be censored. charles: you say become as slippery slope. it feels like we're almost tumbling down 3/4, we're way down the slippery slope. >> we're definitely on the slope for sure. charles: how do we turn it around? is there turning its around or do we have to hit rock bottom? >> the way to turn it around is have administrators who will take a principled stand for free speech every time. as i said too often what we see is universities, i mean emory standing committee on open expression issued a report including these great statements about the importance of free speech on campus. we see universities paying lip service to the importance of free speech on campus but the, you know, then we see how they respond when the chips are down and when they're under pressure. charles: right. >> i think that what administrators need to understand, once they give in to calls for censorship or indicate they are willing to censor unpopular speech, the calls for censorship will never stop.

they have to from the beginning on each and every subject take principled stand on defense of free speech. that doesn't mean if someone is actually threatening someone's life or trying to start a riot -- charles: we know the distinction. we may have to use this odd weird thing, i don't know why they don't use it in college called common sense. samantha, appreciate it. >> thank you. charles: we have new details out of brussels as we head back there. we're going back there live next. ♪ there's a lot of places you never want to see "$7.95." [ beep ] but you'll be glad to see it here. fidelity -- where smarter investors will always be. if only the signs were as obvious when you trade. fidelity's active trader pro can help you find smarter entry and exit points and can help protect your potential profits. fidelity -- where smarter investors will always be.

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charles: been a crazy last 48 hours. lots of new details emerging against the war on terror in belgium. fox news's greg palkot in brussels with the latest. greg. reporter: charles, you got it. it looked like a war zone here in brussels. unofficial capitol of europe. one neighborhood shut down by police, dozens of them, shots were fired explosions.

controlled explosions heard. three arrested. two injured in the melee. this had to do with another raid that happened last night in paris. turns out another terrorist was plotting another attack on france. shows you how interrelated the terror network is in this continent and how broad the scope is. the investigation continues into the tuesday attacks here. two fugitives are being sought amid new grim news that two americans have now been confirmed dead among the 31 killed. we don't have the identities but we believe that happened at the airport here. now isis is claiming responsibility of course for all of these attacks. secretary of state john kerry was in town paying his respects and also talking with the leaders here. we did have a chance to sit down with him and i pressed him on the isis matter. i said, listen, is president

obama doing enough to stop the terror organization in all of it is new forms now? take a listen to my back and forth. but don't we need to pick up our pace? doesn't the united states? >> we are picking up our pace. the president put special forces on the ground in syria. we are more engaged with more people doing more things than we ever were before. reporter: we also touched on some of the criticism of president obama's activities down under this week while terror was going on over here. take a listen to this. the optics of president obama being in cuba at a baseball game, tango in argentina when this is going on? the president, every single day is making decisions that are life and death with respect to daesh and with respect to this war. he has to also continue to be president of the united states. reporter: secretary of state

john kerry said that the reason we're seeing all these new attacks around europe and elsewhere is because the united states is adding the pressure on the battlefield over in syria and iraq. very complex situation. back to you, charlie. charles: thank you very much. great stuff too, greg. appreciate it. president obama now back from his trip to argentina but a few comments he made yesterday, well they're raising some eyebrows. take a listen. >> so often in the past there's been a sharp division between left and right. between capitalists and communist or socialist. and especially in the americas, that has been a big debate. those are interesting intellectual arguments but i think for your generation you should be practical and just choose from what works. charles: ben stein what he makes of those remarks. ben, pick one. >> i can't even start to

describe what i think of them on a family network like fox. stupidest guy in the world, capitalism works for human dignity and prosperity. communism works for oppression of human spirit, for poverty and misery. the idea he thinks communism works in any way, shape or form except to suppress human dignity is just absolutely breathtakingly foolish and i wonder if, maybe they substituted some guy when he was at harvard, when he was columbia, this man can not possibly have studied history even a little bit. charles: you know, speaking of history, he is in south america. want to talk about a place where this is proven wrong. this is not theoretical or what you learn in college, the lure of it, fall in love. he is in a place where it has proven to be a mistake time and time again. these kids know about venezuela, they know about bolivia. they know about the history of

this stuff and they says pick one. >> they don't know about that i suspect mainstream media down there glories left-wing thought and left-wing oppression does as it does here. any person has gone to columbia or harvard should have an idea communism in south america or russia or czechoslovakia or russia, or china or vietnam is a way of open pressing human spirit and make people bow down to material listicked god. the idea there is remote comparison between the success of communism and success of capitalism in terms of liberating the human spirit is just insanity. it is terrifying that a person can be that stupid. charles: but a couple years ago socialism was making big inroads in south america because of venezuela, oil-rich, they promoted it. made promises to neighboring country countries but people are standing in line for toilet paper. one thing that resonates,

capitalism makes things unequal. resonates in this country, ben. >> there is nothing wrong with inequality, as long as it is not inequality by law. as long as people have opportunity at the starting gate to reach equality with each other and no bars or barriers i'm posed by law there is nothing wrong with inequality. there will be inequality everywhere. want to look for real inequality, look in socialist, bolshevik, communist countries where 99% of the people have nothing and 1% have everything. that is inequality in the capitalist societies. there is opportunity here for everyone to achieve prosperity. not so in socialist so-called communist countries. idea there is something wrong with inequality or changed by the strug stroke of a pen is nonsense. inequality is fundamentally to the human spirit. what is bad is illegally imposed inequality and that is what in communist countries. charles: last round of sanctions

in north korea included luxury items like expensive cognac and luxury watches. in a nation with 99% of the people are suffering massively and handful living it up but for the president of the united states to say that is just so amazing. it explains the last seven 1/2 years. >> we're reaping the harvest of decades of miseducation, uneducation one might say or non-education or reverse education in which people are stripping away the generations of knowledge we've had and replacing them with nonsense and to use your phrase, with toilet paper. basically the great works of human history are being replaced with toilet paper in the obama world. charles: ben stein, thank you very much. really appreciate it. >> my pleasure, sir. charles: next, hulk hogan tells fox what he thinks of a possible appeal from gawker.

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charles: hulk hogan won $140 million in his lawsuit against gawker but what happens if gawker appeals and wins? diana falzone sat down with the pro wrestler and here is what he had to say. tell us what he had to say. sorry. >> hulk hogan said he really didn't care if gawker was able to appeal, it was really his job to alert really the public of the damage that media companies can do if they do not respect a private person or a public figure's privacy. so really came down, i think we might have the a clip of that. charles: let's take a listen. >> how surprised are you with the dollar amount that you were awarded? >> i really didn't understand it at first, you know, because i

was so worried about people believing me for 3 1/2 years, that they have been questioning me if i was in on it or if i knew there was camera and stuff. when the jury finally said we believe you -- if there is appeal, and they win, come what may i'm fine. at end of the day i have done as much as i can to make everyone aware if you're over four years old, like gawker said if you have a social media account you're a public person. anybody over four years old blew my mind. they sand by that statement to this day. that you're in jeopardy of happening to you. if you changing your clothes or getting in a shower, if you're over four years old, and you have a video you're fair game. the appeal doesn't mean as much, i let people know what these people are all about and how evil this is. charles: bottom line, diana, he did win and i think public and there is lot of public sympathy for this case. >> definitely is.

they felt that gawker was arrogant. even though the ceo of gawker, nick dent ton will appeal, they're still on the hook for $50 million. to break down the $140 million win, that is 115 million for the verdict. so that is 55 million economic injuries to hulk hogan. then another, i believe 6 in emotional distress, plus 25 in punitive damages this is astounding number and 40 million more than hulk hogan camp was even asking for. charles: he seems so subdued. i remember the old huckster. >> brother! charles: he seems a little broken. >> yeah. charles: also feel like maybe he was even broken before the start. did you feel like he was sort after broken man. >> terry, he asked me to call him terry, the private person. he did is a that. during the whole videotape experience it was whoa is me story that he was a broken man. and he came into our studio and his eyes were all bloodshot and red, said he hadn't been sleeping.

he still cowers to this day when he leaves he is no longer hulk hogan. i feel very vulnerable to the public. charles: he has had quite a few public hits. by the same token he put it out there, right? you have a reality tv show. you're a public person. >> yes. but he didn't put the sex tape out there. charles: he didn't put the sex tape out there. he put himself out there making him a larger target. you have to live with the good and bad at some point. >> at some point. but we also have to make sure the line is not crossed that we still have our privacy and there can't be hidden video camera somewhere when you're having a intimate moment with someone and expecting a level of privacy. charles: i like to see the old hulkster come back. >> we all would. thank you, charles. charles: as we continue live coverage on this good friday, fox business, as you know, we're open for business. ♪ s have relied on us

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suicide hombre who blew himself up on tuesday. all of this just coming in. i am trish regan. welcome, everyone to the intelligence report. a loud explosion went off. a train stop after he refused to listen to police. the man had a young girl with him. the rest has had three. authorities believe he, the french national is in the advanced stage of a terror plot. he was previously convicted of being part of the jihad network. along with this man. the ringleader. we have the picture we can show you of the paris attack. all of the terror concerns. the president is finishing up his latin america to