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>> sorry, i'm sorry. >> i'm watching wisconsin primary coverage tonight, maria. maria: are you going to be there live tonight, sandra? are you going to be there tonight? >> no, no, i'm watching coverage and be on bright tomorrow morning with you. maria: thank you. right to stuart varney we go, over to you. stuart: i'll take it, maria, thank you very much indeed. a crucial day, wisconsin votes. who would have thought the badger state would play such a big role? well, it does. good morning, everyone, bernie, he's surging. the latest poll shows him eight points in the lead. that's a big reversal from two weeks ago when hillary led by x. >> among republicans, donald trump pulling out the stops and he brought his wife to campaign with him yesterday. now he reveals his plan to make mexico pay for the wall. we have details. so this time tomorrow, after the wisconsin vote, the political landscape may look very different. stocks, they go up and lower.
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gee, is that anything to do with bernie's socialist surge? no of course not, that's a stretch. oil slows down and the world slows down more, look at this, we're calling it wealth shaming. the panama papers reveal the powerful and the corrupt hiding their wealth from prior eyes and taxes and the left loves this, they're demonstrating big in europe. it's a big day. let's go, "varney & company" is about to begin. ♪ >> for the championship! all right. that was a buzzer-beater. villanova, a buzzer-beater, chris jenkins made the shot.
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my complaint, the game didn't start until 9:19 p.m. eastern time. how many people watched liz: or missed it. stuart: how many people? an opinion on this? >> i did not watch it, that's pretty cool. and the dude that did, very happy today. that's my analysis. stuart: i'm complaining about the time frame. politics, wisconsin today, a big deal. donald trump faces a major backlash from the media in wisconsin. just look at this. >> at what point is donald trump going to recognize this is a serious job and you cannot just keep going to twitter to insult people, to insult disabled people, to insult women. stuart: who's worse? trump or hillary as president? >> well, good question. i'm not sure i'm going to go there yet, but we can talk about government and they're pretty bad on that.
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>> for donald trump to blast into our state and calling us sucker for supporting scott walker and political reforms, that's insulting. stuart: spokesperson katrina is here. >> good to be here, thank you. stuart: how are you going to address the barrage of media complaints in wisconsin. another question, i think a big mistake by donald was attack the governor, scott walker. he's popular. >> yes, and he was critical of the governor and the governor was also critical of him. we're going to beat this the same way we have always been able to beat these types of things, that's for mr. trump to go into the state and campaign and create his vision. even, even if there is a personality conflict between donald trump and a voter, the issues went out. stuart: mr. trump outlined his plan to make mexico pay for the wall.
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as i understand it, he would cut off the flow of money from mexicans in america that flows back to mexico and he would use them for leverage. pay up or i'll stop the flow. >> the patriot act, 326. we're talking about regulations on financial institutions and it does give the president the authority to regulate those, one of those being to stop the jut flow of money. >> particularly with mexico. we're looking at about $24 billion that flow into that country. by wold withholding those statements, mexico can pay for the wall and there are other things, too, like visa reform and immigrants coming into mexico. that can afford to pay the higher fees. this is an extension, stu, of the original immigration policy. mr. trump is putting out some
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of the details because it seems like no one believes it can be done. >> it's a crucial day. a this is the day of the vote. would you forecast a win for mr. trump today? >> i think that mr. trump is going to do very well. we've known all along the race is closer than opened. we could very well win. stuart: thank you very much for being here. thank you. >> thank you. stuart: there are some polls that suggest that 70% of women dislike donald trump. melania trump joined him on the campaign trail. is that a winning strategy, glamorous wife? >> glamorous wife and also witty and funny. i would hang out with her anytime if she wanted to hang out with me, i think we'd have a lot of fun. but i wonder, why did he not did this sooner? the first one to kind of poke
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fun at him, too, and he doesn't get mad and a woman tease him and him being okay with it and back and forth. stuart: maybe he's doing some damage control, he retreated on the abortion issue. >> right. stuart: i noticed yesterday he was looking for trying to look a lot more presidential. i'm going to say a little calmer than he usually is. >> yes. stuart: too little too late? >> i think so. i mean, i don't think anyone is going to say, oh, he has a wife who is a woman so maybe he's not sexist if someone has an opinion of him. i think that's been cemented and plenty to refer to on that, but it makes him look good overall. stuart: all right, got it. moving on to the democrats, bernie sanders, he's way ahead of hillary clinton in the latest poll. it looks like he could do well tonight in wisconsin and by the way, he knows it. roll tape. >> if there's a large voter turnout we will win here, if we
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win here, we're going to have a bounce going into new york state where i think we can win. if we win in new york state, between you and me, i don't want to get hillary clinton more nervous than she already is. [laughter] >> she's already under a lot of pressure so don't tell her this, but if we win here, we win in new york and run to the white house. stuart: all right, jonah goldberg is here. lets see see that smile. a solid win for bernie with new momentum for new york. that would change the race for democrats. in the back of my mind, i'm thinking is this just like '08 when hillary faded in front of barack obama? >> well, yes and no. first of all, let me say i could sit here all day and listen to him talk basketball, a level of detail and nuance. stuart: jonah goldberg, you're usi
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using sarcasm. >> it's different from 2008 only in so far as barack obama had a chance, clearly a chance to beat hillary clinton in the betting count. bernie sanders, very difficult, almost impossible to see how bernie sanders beats hillary clinton in the delegate county. even if he wins wisconsin the way they've written the rules, he doesn't get a big windfall. barack obama has 17 points and only netted a few more delegates. the play is psychological. instead, bernie sanders beats the front runner and this will be like the sixth, seventh win in a row for bernie sanders. psychologically, that's a big deal. hillary clinton is an incredibly weak front runner and bernie sanders is exposing that and delaying the ability
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of barack obama to come in and uniform the democratic party and opening up a major weakness. i think in some ways, bernie sanders is the front runner in the fbi primary paubecause if hillary gets indicted he's the obvious choice to win. stuart: i think this time tomorrow, the political landscape might look very different. bottom line. same thing for you, jonah? >> yes, for both parties. stuart: thank you, jonah liz: bernie sanders could stay in through-- >> embarrassing her. stuart: the fox business coverage the primary comes in. and that's from 8:00 on.
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look at this, please, lower open for stocks. yes, the imf is worried about china and yes, oil is heading way down again. dare i discussion that bernie's surge in wisconsin has investors worried? i know it, i know it, that's a stretch. do look at twitter pre market, it's up and made a deal with twitter streaming games live. and pfizer wants to buy a company and move lock, stock and barrel to ireland. new rules may keep pfizer in america and the company wants to avoid paying the higher taxes. this is an inversion story, i'm going to get the buzzer. $30 a barrel, swimming, tons of supply and the freeze, so there you have it.
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supply and demand out of whack. down goes the profits. how about this? greece no longer sending migrants back to turkey. those deportations suspended after just one day. migrant chaos in europe again. and this, the world's rich and powerful stashing their money, we're calling this wealth shaming. hey dad. hey sweetie, how was your first week? long. it'll get better. i'm at the edward jones office, like sue suggested. thanks for doing this, dad. so i thought it might be time to talk about a financial strategy. (laughing) you mean pay him back? knowing your future is about more than just you. so let's start talking about your long-term goals... multiplied by 13,000 financial advisors.
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>> this is a story we constantly go back to because we think it's important for america, the migrant crisis in europement they're causing deportations to turkey. this is only day two. >> it's only day two. and the migrant camps are turning to chaos, a chaotic situation there. thousands are basically claiming asylum. so, what's going on, behind the scenes, stuart, is turkish law,
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it's saying that they do not recognize afghani or iraqi refuge refugees, knowing that they may be stuck in greece, so this deal to take the migrants in, they could fall apart. >> they promise $7 billion to turkey if they tyake some of the migrants back. >> and turkey is a death trap, it's not a sanctuary. >> implications are for america. protests in paris and iceland over the powerful and the corrupt hiding millions in tax havens. investigations have started around the world. leaders from argentina to pakistan forced to come out and deny any wrongdoing. judge napolitano is here. to me, this looks like wealth shaming. >> it's wealth shaming that you like. some people who denied this wealth and criticized others for exploiting it have it themselves.
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stuart: why like to see corrupt money hidden in tax havens. but the left comes in and we don't want any. >> the left doesn't like any wealth unless it's transferred to them, and they acquired it. a lot of this is perfectly legitimate. i'm not sure, i've seen 11 million pages and some of it is not-- invariably some of this is money laundering, to a low tax or no tax person like me, there's a little bit of glee when people can ostensibly use the law to avoid, paying taxes. but the problem with the massive size of this, inevitably there's illegal activity. and literally some inappropriately acquired cash being laundered through these shell companies whereby the shell company will pay your
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child's tuition or buy you a docka in russia or a summer home somewhere that the seller doesn't care where that cash comes from. >> look, so far no american names, to my knowledge have surfaced, but it is well-known that some of the big dig noll companies, the global companies do keep money in the tax havens so it doesn't come back and get hit-- and they go after it, it's not only legitimate, but understandable. the congress which rights our draconian, socially-driven tax code permits this behavior. >> so far. bernie sanders gets a hold of this, he hates billionaires. >> bernie sanders or donald trump could in the change the tax laws on their own. for all the ranting and ravings
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much inversions, i don't want to use that word, or against the tax shore haven, congress, the representative of the people, said they're legal. >> a trump or a president sanders can change some rules without congress getting involved, but they can't change rules that contradict what congress authorized. stuart: and president sanders, that rolled off your tongue easily. >> a president sanders, or a president trump. i'm getting yelling in my ear for saying it. stuart: the dow on the march to 18,000. today, it stalled, fears about an economic slowdown. down goes the market about 100 points on opening bell. next though, you won't believe it. nor liberal lunacy, students
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>> i was just saying, i hope i can strut around like that when i'm over 70. and ron wood says the band is planning to release a new album, posbly this year. the first album from the stones in 11 years. he's over 70. >> yes, he is. stuart: still over 70. >> just like the supreme court justices. stuart: looking good. this is the story you've been waiting for, we can't believe it, some college students in the scripps college, they're objecting to former secretary of state madeleine albright as commencement speaker and calling her a white genocide enabler. >> they're saying that it's quote, disgusting, she's a white feminist and rather not have madeleine albright there. stuart: because she's white? >> because she's white.
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stuart: too white? >> too white. other students saying, come on, you can't invoke race in this. this is a school that had angela davis, the former radical speak out earlier in the year. >> i'm glad the students are doing something. we can't have white people giving speeches. stuart: stop it. >> no, it's ridiculous, right? so she's clearly a person with a lot of liberal cred, okay? you'd think that these students will be happy with the selection, but if they were happy what would they write their angry little blog posts about? >> that's incredible, a the former secretary of state and first woman to hold that office and she's too white to speak at scripps college? this is madeleine albright when she was complaining for hillary clinton. watch this tape. >> just remember, there's a special place in hell for women who don't help each other. stuart: and she's not qualified to speak at an all women college in clairmont, california?
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>> right. plus she's white liz: this is the time before the college rejected condoleezza rice and christine duguard speaking as well. stuart: i'd like the candidates speak about this. >> i think we need a safe zone from students who talk like this. >> and they're graduating so that means they're commenting out in the world next. please stay away from me. stuart: you're all right. >> thank you. stuart: the markets, yes, they are headed lower this morning. global anxiety is to blame. we're about to see a triple digit selloff in four and a half minutes from now. how about this? a mutiny among air france cabin crew. they refused to wear head scarves when flying to iran. more varney next.
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from a spokesperson donald trump. she thinks they're headed for a win tonight even though donald is five to six points behind in the polls as we speak. the opening bell ringing. and 10 seconds, the trading day this tuesday morning will begin. we are expecting a decline from the get-go. 9:30 as of right now. we are off running and wear down 20 points. 50 points in a way we go. should be down 100 by the time everything's opened up in way of running. adam shapiro joins us this morning. liz mcdonald, todd horowitz. why are we going down 100 points to the opening bell? mike murphy. >> a lot of it has to do with pfizer. the component putting pressure on the stocks and overnight weakness outside of china you had japan so you're getting outside of global worry coming into the marketpla remember, a nice rally from the mid-16,000 range up to almost
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18,000. drink to pfizer is not a matter of the dow industrials hear todd coming commanded us. why is the market down today? they met good morning, stuart appeared a lot of people want to take profit. we are up against a little bit of resistance of people are taking profit. europe has been down the last couple weeks i've had japan. today i think we are seen him, nothing major because the market is going much slower. right here this is a gentle market right here with not much going on. not changed, or have global fundamental change. stuart: nothing to worry about even though i would like to be the market go down for more. i want to get to the pfizer story. look at allergan based in dublin down each commit 17%. fifty dollars down.
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pfizer wanted to buy it and they moved pfizer to ireland. walk away from the taxation situation in the united states. new rules from the treasury and that deal is in jeopardy. what's the numeral? >> when they keep it simple. started nonstop last night, two big things for him in some versions could change the way they pray they calculate penalties. where you had a certain percentage it will be lower, make it harder to do. the other has to do with earnings stripping. the foreign company then loads the u.s. company with a debt. why did i just say? sorry. stuart: they are going to make it more expensive and he won't be able to get the tax rate on the foreign company will do with that. stuart: you are shaking your head. >> the government should look at ways to change the tax code. >> jacklin said yesterday we should be changing it.
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therefore they will step in. this isn't going to stop here trend liz: we have no ipos in the first quarter. >> new rules from the treasury won't help. we got for dow stocks. near lifetime highs. the same that we had yesterday. 90 travelers, home depot and donald's. all of them had lifetime highs yesterday done little bit this morning not by much. a couple cents here and there. smith & wesson, and gunstock big drop yesterday, rebounded 29 cents a day. why the down? fewer fbi background checks as the precursor to gun sales. background checks down common stock was down yesterday. bp and ordered to pay $20 billion for the oil spill in 2010. remember that was the deepwater horizon deal. the judge says you've got to pay.
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he's not new, but the judge said pay out $20 million. disappointing sales at walgreen. that puts the stock down about 2%, $2 lower. we only see the football is king in america and yes it is. now twitter has a deal to stream nfl games. this is new. zero, please. >> let's take a look at twitter right now. first of all, the stock of 2.5% on the day the dow was down 100 points. the news here is that the dow with the nfl football games. the games that are on nbc and cbs and also nfl networks. the nfl would be able to have been on cable tv, broadcast tv and digitally as well. this is a really big deal. this is available to the people who cut the cord. a lot of people don't even have cable anymore.
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when it first came out, twitter was over $70, $75 now it 17.beard stuart: hey, mike murphy, you like the kind of this deal? >> i love the sound of the deal. twitter was up against amazon and horizon. it usually doesn't lose out on these deals. twitter cfo has the background is to work with the nfl. remember the reason is simply because people don't know how twitter will monetize it. ad revenue coming in from nfl games is a great way to monetize. stuart: 3% gain. take a look at tesla. sales were up, but the stock is down. do you want to explain this? >> they over promised and under delivered good sales growth rate there, the worst in about a year. tesla blaming a shortage. stuart: this is not a model three. >> this is their standard
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vehicle. stocks under pressure since the free market. stuart: a good-looking car. liz: a great looking car. that's the problem further electric car makers as well. >> delivering two years gas will be $2 a gallon. i'm almost positive. stuart: i want to move on to disney. wanted to say, tom horvitz? >> tesla cantilever enough cards anyway. they must keep getting more money from the government and keep losing the cars. it is not equipped to build what they sold. they are not going to be successful until they can solve this other problems and deliver. >> voice of reason coming from chicago. >> user certificate will grade and that's why they buy them. stuart: disney. we have it on the screen a moment ago. the chief executive officer, bob baker, his retirement may be
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delayed for the fourth time. but is the story here? the person who was supposed to take over as head of the company. >> next in line, left abruptly. bob igra stirred well respected, but we don't know who comes in next. it's not the first time it's happened. the second time it's happened to disney. you have to wonder does he stay on longer or bring in someone from a tie. wall street does not like the uncertainty. stuart: i think bob iger is one of the top-ranked ceos in america today. he will perform wonders that disney. >> easter them very strong. the purchase of the "star wars" franchise. stuart: full disclosure at work next to his wife for about a year and half when i worked at the computing network. full disclosure. look at facebook. deutsche bank said face the may disappoint. but by the stock on weakness. that's having an oath ways,
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isn't it? >> if it comes down, buy it anyway. that's what they're saying. >> when they get it wrong they go back and correct. deutsche bank actually said their first-quarter earnings may disappoint. hold on and by the summer he still says the price target of $145. then mcclendon is to grab and now they make money on what the app. he says they will disappoint. stuart: 145 on facebook at some point. >> wait until it comes down. >> what he said was buy low, sell high. stuart: wow, inside. i like this one. they may be saying goodbye to the after not otherwise known as the fiesta. >> audios to the three-hour nap. spain's government on a regular workday that ends at 6:00 at night, not 8:00 at night. stuart: three hour?
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>> days to live in spain. go home, and have lunch, take a nap. it's not in the happen. the people in madrid, the expression is the world works to live and we live to eat. stuart: have you ever taken a three hour nap in the middle of the day? if you ever do a makeup company if you like death warmed over. >> i loved it. it was a wonderful way to go through the day. they are not very good. liz: it's not laziness. they just rearrange the workday. >> you just made it 10 to 15 minute cat nap. >> or your workout. >> workout? train to california and the newark acted yesterday to push gradually their statewide minimum wage to $15 an hour. the governor of california made interesting comment. what did he say?
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>> he was pretty hesitated. they may not economically work. i may not make sense economically. he said we live in a moral community. meanwhile, the state legislature, democrat adam gray said this will hurt our small businesses in the central valley. so that is interesting is the splitting california. stuart: he admitted it's not a good idea. >> it's terrible idea because anyone running a small business is forced the government to raise wages. people are going to lose their job over this. it makes no sense. stuart: todd horowitz in the background. what are you going to say? >> at the killer. it will put every business in trouble and bring robots instead of people. so instead of bringing more money in the system, we will have less people working in the people working will be making $15 an hour. one of the most ridiculous things i've heard that they're trying to force this up when you
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put most businesses out of business. stuart: full-time minimum-wage job in california pays $30,000 a year when this deal goes through. $30,000 a year for some young turk, entry-level job. liz: seven other states pushing including illinois. stuart: on the left-hand side of your screen, that is donald trump and wisconsin campaigning today. but of course this today. he is there, fighting hard. he is behind in the polls, that he is there and wisconsin. check out the big word. we are now down 132 points. yes an early-morning south. kyl, wife of american sniper chris kyle has been critical of donald trump in the past. she is going to join a shortly. meanwhile, donald trump watches "varney & company," tweeting out this interview next.
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>> what advice have you given your husband? or what would you like him to change a little bit? >> tweeting and being more presidential. he has a great and he can be presidential. sometimes he cannot stand if somebody attacks them. if somebody attacks them, he will push back 10 times harder. stuart: donald trump's wife talking about her husband's tone
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on the trail. americans favor chris kyle. the author of the new book, american life. iger, good to have you with us here do set the past that donald trump is too offensive to be president. he is trying to be presidential. he's brought his wife on board. have you changed your opinion? >> i haven't changed my opinion. i get why people like him. i really do. personally i feel someone like him very. very strong, very capable, very humble, answers to a higher power and you have no doubt he will get the job done with common class. i like that. stuart: i don't want to pursue this too far. you don't think trump will get back into the good graces of women voters by showing his wife and backtracking on some of the more abrasive, he's made? >> he can do it and this frustrates me about america, but we are very much in the
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soundbite we thought for easily. we are transparent this is happening. he probably is pretty good. i think it's not that good with that, but i have this aversion. >> barisal trumpets, marketing? >> hope and change is perfect. whatever he wanted to be. trump knows that the nation is feeling any massive frustration in his plane on that. i personally wish we were the polarized, but we are. stuart: we are indeed. the new book is all about face, hoping to overcome heartache. that's the nature of the boat. >> love, work, faith and renewal is something we all go through. it is my christian faith. no matter who you are and what you go through in life, was that some battle, some struggle. clear for men and women that it
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helps them with their own struggle in their own battle and renewal is the end destination. it's a revolving door. stuart: i believe that is absolutely dead right. no one lives in unchallenged life. everybody is going to be challenged in some way or the other in the course of their lifetime. >> that's right. stuart: were you such a profound christian, so much faith before what happened to your husband where did this come to you after? >> it was actually before. i felt very close to god in that relationship and i want to be independent and do my own thing. i still don't think you have to go to church but i've been through plenty of times and my wife or i didn't. the fear i could not overcome. there spends here, forgiveness and the things i couldn't do, no matter how much i try. there is some in that couldn't be solved without prayer and asking god to help me.
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i felt relief. trade to forgive me for asking. very personal question. you pray constantly? >> i do.to yourself, in your head in your mind? >> sundaes provide a habitat at all today. i try to do it with the kids. i'm not perfect at it. sometimes our lowest moments we pray the most good i chat about that now with a lot of gratitude good but i noticed something is going well i give thanks for this and that so i'm not always the complaining child of god. stuart: taya kyle, american wife, love, work, faith and renewal. i shall read it. not just because you autographed it. >> you really will. i would love to know what you think of it. thanks for having me. stuart: this is below the day down 132 as we speak. of the way back as 176. this is a timeline's video. that is taken from 250 miles.
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the international space station. what you are looking at is the earth's horizon. he used to be something like that. you can see the curvature of the earth. the space station is way up there. is donald trump does well in wisconsin today, it will not be thanks to wisconsin's local media. listen to this. >> i appreciate the time -- the generosity of time, donald trump. it was actually really fun. he just hung up on me. that is okay. what super poligrip does for me is it keeps the food out. before those little pieces would get in between my dentures and my gum and it was uncomfortable. just a few dabs is clinically proven to seal out more food particles. super poligrip is part of my life now.
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and learn more about the kinds of plans that will be here for you now - and down the road. i have a lifetime of experience. so i know how important that is. stuart: half-hour into the session, the dow down over 100 points. our next guest has appeared on the show stating her dislike or donald trump. combine in, vicki mckenna. wisconsin radio host who has sent our instead of us can't then. vicki, trump is having a bit of a late comeback year. he is narrowing the gap with ted cruz. what are you going to do if he wins? >> well, i don't know if narrowing the gap is necessarily what i would call it. there was a poll nor curiously unreliable that shows a trump search. there are a couple of polls that show about next-line five, seven
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points between ted cruz and donald trump. so that's what it feels like an wisconsin. in wisconsin. it feels like a handful of points. if donald trump does somehow surge, then we all get ready for a trump candidacy i guess. stuart: could you get behind a trump candidacy? doesn't sound like you could. >> not today i couldn't, no. if the election were held tomorrow i couldn't. anything could change. let's say he actually does act like an adult and not like a 9-year-old tweaking insult or mocking people with schoolyard taunts. okay, maybe. right now the election were held tomorrow, absolutely not. stuart: his big mistake in wisconsin with attacking governor scott walker. governor walker is a very popular man who has stood up to three big challenges. i think it was a huge mistake action in the way donald trump
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did you agree with me? >> it was the tacky really to come into our state not understanding anything about whether body of politics looks like, not understanding how can there but his form coalition and understanding in an office type of establishment is an establishment that, back in 2007 we take it to the curb. we've been doing conservative reform. we been waiting with freedom as a model for government. coming into wisconsin and lay in that same old bumper sticker campaign slogan on us for not bothering to do any research, calling for tax increases in our state, trashing governor walker. stuart: i think you said it. we appreciate your openness. can i ask you to comment on the other side? i know you're conservative bernie sanders is making a surge. he says hillary is nervous.
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i saw sanders up by eight points. your comment. why is a socialist doing so well in your state? >> actually, socialism is a long history in the config, particularly in milwaukee and madison weren't very strong. the lock he has a bit of a socialist past. should be overtly socialist in wisconsin is not something that a delay causes democrats to recoil. the progressives have long bed with socialism as their ideology. they've taken over government in the city of madison, the county were madison resides where bernie sanders is incredibly strong. if you take a look at the history of the city of milwaukee, a couple of socialist mayors, very, very progressive. stuart: 50, thank you for joining us. we appreciate it. thanks very much. we will be back with more in
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>> 10 a.m. on the east coast and the white house, it's 9:00 in wisconsin, and that state voting right now, we're on it, of course. big day. check the big boards, global fears sending stocks lower. hour two, "varney & company" starts now. ♪ the patriot act, 326 regulations on financial institutions and does give the president an authority to regulate those and one of those who stop the outflow of money. particularly with mexico, we're looking at $24 billion that flow into that country. by withholding those payments, mexico can pay for the wall. >> that was donald trump's
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spokesperson looking at new they plan to make mexico pay for the border. former navy seal is here, you're a fan. >> huge. >> when you said the other day that he wants other countries to pay us to be the world's policemen, you really support that, don't you? >> i think so. we have footed the majority of the bill on this longest in american history going on 14 years now, and what have others contributed? they're reaping the benefit of that security. since we pulled out of iraq and largely out of afghanistan, look what's happened. the isis created and attacking western europe and they're looking for us for help. >> wait a second, donald trump is not big putting american boots on the ground all over again. you're one of the boots on the the ground. >> i can't remember, former green beret or seal? >> seal. >> okay, former seal. how could you be a trump supporter if he's not going to-- >> if he doesn't want to do it,
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if he doesn't want to send people in there with increased rules of engagement, risking our lives with no reason and no end result that they couldn't define in the war on iraq, he wants to go in there intelligently. >> donald trump upset the apple cart with his foreign policy. >> listen to this, donald trump explaining his stance on nato. >> roll that tape. >> i talk about nato and i give this long-- i understand, you know, i get it. i get how it is, stops and two or three days later, and they say that was something. we have 28 countries and we're taking care of them, they're not paying because nobody is asking them to pay. i have an instinct for this stuff, they should pay. stuart: i have an instinct for this stuff. you're smiling, that's music to your ears. >> it is. it's nice to hear, we have someone talking sensibly.
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he wants them to pay. france went from there and it fizzled out and didn't long-term commit. stuart: europe is broke. >> why is that our problem? >> if we're going to break up nato and you can't pay. >> they're not going to reap the whirl winds, american sons and daughters are coming home in bags and boxings, because they won't chip in. stuart: you're arm forces, you're out. >> i'm out. stuart: assess the morale of the americans in uniform over donald trump. are they overwhelmingly in favor of the guy? >> majority. stuart: a majority of americans soldiers. >> this guy didn't want to go to iraq we didn't have a goal. we want today define the goal and fight it on our terms, not theirs. am people see this and wow, this guy has a lot of strength.
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he preaches strength and toops want that. troops want that. if you want to send me to fight a war, let me fight a war, if you want the other, send diplomates. stuart: we have had a change of direction, we were down 30 and suddenly we're down just 56 points. maybe there were some numbers coming out at 10:00 eastern time, four minutes ago, not sure, we've changed the tone of the market. down 130 and now down 60. the price of oil, what's happening with that? down $35 a barrel. that's not a plus for the stock market. back at 35. how about disney, some succession problems for ceo bob iger. he's the guy i think is probably the best ceo in america today. his retirement likely delayed for the fourth time. liz, what happened here? >> well, basically, it was a
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surprise. the chief operating officer, he was heir apparent and now he's not going to be the heir apartment at a times that disney is seeing struggling and cutting. stuart: that's the guy? he stepped aside. do we know why he walked away? >> we don't know why he walked away. the thing that iger's contract lasts through 2018 and stepped in the past when there has not been an heir apparent. we don't know whether he reupped, but disney will handle it again. stuart: he's one ceo, and disney firing on all cylinders has gone straight up. when he took over, i seem to remember disney 20, $30 a share, don't quote me, i think that's where it was, and now 110. >> you've got to be careful because look where we're going
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with disney. the global economy, the theme parks, the backlash against the theme parks and they've got the "star wars" franchise and not all of us love the new "star wars" film. can they keep this train on track? >> that's a fair point. only time will tell. and how about twitter, they've got a winning bid to stream nfl games. what's the significant? >> at least they have a plan now, people can understand how twitter might make some money. it's probably a better deal for them we're going to sell this company to a bigger party. we don't know the terms of the deal. how much is twitter going to pay. how much for the ads. and it might make it attractive to a potential buyer. stuart: and a little thing like this, carrying it around wherever i am and i can watch a live nfl game, that's something. >> what's better, you can stream from that device to your monitor at home. you don't need the cable, but you don't want to watch the two
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hour game on the little one, you need to watch on the big screen. stuart: you need to come to my house and then turn the thing on for me. let's get to politics. and tamara holding next to you, rushed into the studio. bernie sanders, the truth is this man is surging, up in wisconsin, i've seen a late poll showing him up 8 points iny is getting nervous about him. watch in? >> if there's a large voter turnout, we will win here. if we win here, we're going to have a bounce going into new york state where i think we can win. if we win in new york state between you and me, i don't want to get hillary clinton more nervous than she already is. she's already under a lot of pressure so don't tell her this. i think we win here, we win in new york state, we're on our way to the house. stuart: you know, tamara, he is a good campaigner. i mean, that was kind of funny, it was sharp-edged got his points in nicely.
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this guy is surging. >> and he cut himself off when he actually wanted to continue when he said she's already under a lot of pressure and the idea, at least i thought, he want today say something about the fbi investigation, but it was-- you know, he's so smart. he doesn't need to. stuart: he doesn't need to. it's there and everybody knows it's there. the democrats, you guys, you're spinning vigorously, it won't amount to a whole hill of beans. you know, it's there, and dangling. >> i don't know which democrat you spoke to, but i never said that. [laughter] >> democrats in general. can i not generallylize. >> you're very good at that, stuart, a very good generallyizer, i'm always a far left democrat. so, it's scary, but for hillary and scary for the campaign because nobody-- he's really an insurgent candidate and nobody expected this. when we were talking about, you know, who was hillary's opposition going to be, there
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was never the talk of bernie sanders and it's slowly been a ground swell from the-- >> just does it reminds you of 2008? i'm serious here. hillary started out, she was the lady who was going to be crowned the president of united states of america and just gradually slipped away and faded totally and barack obama beat her. is this a replay of 2008? >> well, from what i've been reading, i don't think that-- i don't think it is only because they still expect hillary to become the candidate. and-- >> well, the delegate count, she's wait ahead there. >> i think that the reason why barack obama became so popular was because of his hope and change message, which isn't working, nobody's even trying. stuart: that's an interesting admission. so hope and change is it not working. did you just say that? i think you did. >> i was out late last night at the-- for the game so whatever i'm saying today, i just, can we just erase it? >> would you be worried? i mean, would you have an
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element of concern as a democrat if bernie sanders were the candidate, regardless who he's up against? >> no. stuart: you have no problem with a socialist leading the democratic party to a presidential election? >> i don't think that he's a socialist. i think that's something you like to say, he's not a socialist. stuart: he is a democratic socialist. >> in your definition of what a socialist is, versus his definition of making the large banks pay and become accountable. stuart: he wants to make us like denmark and sweden. >> you have a smile on your face. it's a great place to go. stuart: really? >> yeah. they have health care. stuart: why are so swedes and danes leaving as quickly as they can. >> because everybody wants to come to america. stuart: all right, i think we'll live to fight another day. but you're totally wrong. if bernie sanders is the candidate for the democrats, he would lose in a landslide. you don't agree? >> no, i think that democrats have 2016 and the republicans are a mess.
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isn't paul ryan now going to run, he's in israel trying to get the money? you guys have no idea who your candidate is. stuart: okay. >> at least we have two that we can choose from, you're like 16 to 4, 2, now, how many, 2, 3? >> i'm an american. i'm on america's side. >> now you're looking for another one because the three you have aren't good enough. stuart: that's good. and even with a late night. all right, holder, get out of here. stuart: don't forget fox business coverage of the wisconsin primaries starts at 7:00 tonight. lou dobbs at 7:00 and neil at 8:00. >> now to turkey, the first boats arrived carrying migrants from greece. we're hearing reports of deportation have been flat-out halted. >> that's right. so what happened was after they arrived at march 20th and called regular migrants, they would be deported to turkey.
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the migrants are saying we don't want to go to turkey, we want to stay in greece. the problem is the back story, turkish law may not recognize as refugees, and there's fighting and fear of rioting they're forced to go to turk. stuart: that's okay. tamara, president obama will just bring them to america and everything will be just fine, won't it? cat got your tongue. the pulse of america, new polls show the majority of people say we are losing our identity and they are struggling economically. we have the numbers. as wisconsin votes, the outcome right away could shake up the republican establishments. we'll explain it all in a moment.
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we're down 50 as we speak. j&j, that's an all-time hit, hit it earlier this morning. johns johnson & johnson. new quinnipiac polls are out. the first one looks at america's identity. >> this is disturbing. a total of 57% of all voters agree or strongly agree with this statement, america has lost its identity. 43% somewhat disagree, so the majority of the people responding say america's lost its identity and people talk about the trump phenomenon. this is nothing new, read robert putman "our kids", he explain the last 40 years where kids and parents watching this don't have the opportunities that used to exist for children born in this country. stuart: ouch. we put it on the screen a moment ago. this is about falling behind economically. i think another 57% feel they're falling behind economically? >> yes, the democrats disagree strongly. trump voters stand out, and
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they're falling behind economically. that's toast for future democrats. they've got to address the shrinking middle class and referred to inequality of opportunity. forget income inequality. this is hitting all races in the same percentages. >> kids, i'll give you an example. i use today live in cleveland, ohio. if the people are born in east cleveland, forget it, their chances of rising out of poverty, but if you're born a little way away, a chaps of-- chance of rising out of poverty. stuart: they're mope hopelessly split which is not good going into an election. if donald trump is the candidate, the party will not support him. it donald trump is not the candidate, voters walk away,
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party split, republican loses. are you going to take me on? am i totally wrong? >> it's easy to make that claim now, but in a general election campaign and you're staring down the potential third for barack obama in hillary clinton or bernie sanders matter. once we know who the nominee for the republican party, the threat of a third obama term will unite the republicans. stuart: you think they'll unite after all they've said about donald trump and donald trump's said about ted cruz and everybody else. you think that unity is possible? >> i do think unity is possible because good republicans and good conservatives do not want to see the america and leadership of the country go-- continue to go the same way that president obama has taken us. and if we get a third term of
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obama with sanders or clinton, i think enough republicans will say, you know what? let's put our differences aside, and let's unite against the democratic nominee. stuart: what do you make of the possibility that someone comes along who's never run in the primary, doesn't have a single delegate, but is nominated to be the republican guy or person? what do you make that? >> i think that's a possibility. look, if donald trump or-- >> who? >> ted cruz-- we'll wait and see and it could be a number of people. come on, like who? >> one name mentioned recently a paul ryan. stuart: he says he doesn't want it. >> you could have mitt romney. well, the best way to run for something sometimes is to say you don't want it and i'm not is suggesting that paul ryan wants it, but that's an attractive quality in a candidate. he didn't want to be speaker and he's now speaker of the house. stuart: i think you've got a split party and a problem there.
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look thank you for joining us and putting a smile on our face. >> this is. stuart: it really is. we're hearing the olympic torch will pass through a refugee camp in athens. >> a young syrian refugee requested asylum in greece will carry the torch through a refugee camp in greece. it's the center of the crisis and the birthplace of the olympics. there will be a team in the olympics in august in rio. they will march behind the host country brazil at the opening ceremony. they already have a swimmer from syria and a tae kwon do fighter from iran. stuart: interesting. >> they represent the refugees in the world. stuart: we hear it. a brand new reality tv competition combines the drama of a survivor with the grueling physical challenge of a navy seal training. we're talking to the other show's stars.
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see car insurance in a whole new light. liberty mutual insurance. >> move it out. let's go! >> we've been putting these civilians through hell. >> we're going to go over the bridge, rappelling off the bridge to see what they're made of. >> i've seen some people handle it, some people crying. >> going down together. >> in a moment, 75 to 80% of people that show up to seal training don't make it. this is simple. all i need to do is find four. stuart: whoa! that was a clip from fox's new reality show called "american grit", kind of like survivor with navy seal challenger. look who is here, co-host and former navy seal, the book "worth dying for", quite a
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title for a book. look, it sounds to me like these are going to be tough and brutal challenges. >> the challenges are real. stuart: somebody's going to get hurt. >> somebody does get hurt and you'll see it. some people may have gone home in an ambulance. stuart: what kind of a promotion is that? >> i think you'll want to see what sends people to that point of the competition. stuart: and to get hurt-- we did it right. stuart: you've got all age groups represented? >> from 20 to 52-year-old cop. it's disparate backgrounds. stuart: what sort of audience are you going for? military audience, young people. >> the stat you said a minute ago, we don't know what our identity is. i think the identity is grit and toughness and put people through military-aspired type training and find out what they're made of. stuart: you formed a team that volunteered to go into the reality show and another navy
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seal-- >> i'm the only seal. there's an army ranger, a machine gunnery target and we run teams in our own way. stuart: if the seals don't beat the army rangers, that looks awful. >> i love being shoulder to shoulder with one of my special operations brothers and it will be interesting. stuart: when does it start? >> april 14th. stuart: big fox. >> right. stuart: one hour episode? >> one hour show. stuart: are you in all of them? >> i'm in all of them. john cena, the ww superstar is the host and he has the right to hold up the contestant accountable. stuart:'s he a tough guy. >> he's a tough guy, real big. stuart: thank you for joining us, good luck with the show. >> thank you. stuart: college lunacy, more of it. a school in california says they don't want madeleine albright speaking at their commencement, oh, no, she's too white. more varney after this.
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starting with you. bernie gaming a lot of ground. hillary getting nervous. a shot of winning wisconsin. really good momentum going into new york. what say you? >> i absolutely agree. hillary acts like she is entitled. i am confident that i will be the nominee. bernie sanders had been underestimated. i think that there is a lot more credibility on the ground they are. i want to bring you into politics. i want to ask you about politics.
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would you be worried about america's economy? >> matters by trade. however, i am starting to really question whether he is putting together the firepower to get things done. for him to be so poorly briefed. making the kinds of responses that he does. anyone who thinks they can run the country on basis of that is very foolish. stuart: do we have that right? >> i think that you have it right here at. stuart: i am with you all the way. i've got it. >> a tax loophole. that will stop companies from
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moving overseas. what is the plan? >> pfizer allergan. we will get into the weeds of it. making it more expensive. >> if you did it, you would not get the tax advantages that you would have thought. >> there is virtually no ipos in the first quarter. we while liquid capital markets. you hire more bureaucrats to look under these rules. wanting to lower the corporate tax rates. >> this is m&a to avoid paying
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stuart: this year's commencement speaker. she is not a minority. i certainly would think that that is a macro aggression. when you look at this, you have to take a deeper look. when it comes to a degree. >> coming from professors. it is not good enough that she is a woman. she has to be some kind of minority. stuart: eight tenure professor sitting right next to you.
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>> i go to church with madeleine albright. i'm happy to see her hoisted around. how racist am biased i am. encouraged to go to luncheons and worst shops. this is worse than russia. this is china. >> the prime minister. getting rid of its famous css. i heard that gas. peter, what are you gasping about?
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>> i am an aging professor. what this will do is bring more people into work. a very high unemployment rate. it will not boost the economy. so many without any work experience at all. that will have some positive return. speed that they need to get out of the euro so they can grow again. >> he does not think that they will ever get rid of siestas. >> it has never gone away. >> four or 8:00 o'clock. you beat your friends. this is not going to happen.
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>> a back account. i say this is the case of wealth shaming by the left. wealthy is not the problem. it is the public officials that are looting. that is where the story is. i think that that is what is not really being covered up here. >> just loving to expose these nasty billionaires. they have money offshore. >> you know, tax rate in many of the countries that these people come from. especially from progressive liberal outlets. this is wrong. there has not really been a whole lot of evidence to show
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that there was any wrongdoing. they portrayed anyone that dares have an offshore account. the laws in the morals of wanting to protect your own wealth, you know, they do not talk about those things. they make it sound like you are doing something wrong. >> they are now trying to avoid. >> take a look at paypal, please. dropping plans because of a controversial new religious freedom. >> they will not build their new center in charlotte. you have bank of america headquartered in charlotte. you have the attorney general in north carolina. stuart: how about tesla?
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fighting an uphill battle in wisconsin. that states conservative media very much anti-trump. more varney after this. >> it was spectacularly stupid. not understanding. not understanding that here in wisconsin, all of this establishment business, we kicked the establishment to theb curb. ♪ and it affects each and every one of us. microsoft created the digital crimes unit to fight cyber-crime. we use the microsoft cloud to visualize information so we can track down the criminals. when it comes to the cloud, trust and security are paramount. we're building what we learn back into the cloud to make people and organizations safer.
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♪ >> if you do not tune in early, here is what you missed. >> you do not think that trump can get back into the good graces. backtracking on some of the more abrasive comments he has made. >> i think that he can do it. low marketing campaigns that we fall for very easily. i also think that probably is pretty good to women. i don't know. >> you think that this is all marketing. >> i think that they have to be really good at marketing. ♪
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voting is underway. a win there could give her need the momentum. jeff: if he wins here, he goes to new york and wind and then he goes to the white house. people have said they have not seen mind like this for primary. there are 96 delegates. divided proportionately. pretty much the same. i make another point about bernie sanders. john kasich talks a lot about the fact that he wins all the national polls against hillary clinton. you know, the only candidate in the race right now. that would be bernie sanders. he beats cruz by double digits.
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he even beats the moderate. >> you caught me shaking right there. donald trump. an uphill struggle. just does not like mister trump. watch this. >> at what point is donald trump going to recognize this is a serious job. insulting people. >> who was worse, trump or hillary? >> good question. i am not sure i am going to go there yet. >> a blast. calling us a bunch of suckers. supporting the conservative reforms. stuart: let's bring in a republican from wisconsin. congressmen, welcome to the
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program. what is it about media in wisconsin? was it because trump criticize the government? >> we have a very strong talk radio network. these are true conservatives. lowering taxes. they look at the only one who is a standard bearer. they have looked at donald trump who has been unserious about laying up policies. they need a conservative. not a blues canyon in donald trump. a pretty effective job. trump still gets what, 30, 33, 35% of the vote. making all of these mistakes in
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the primary. shortly it is a surprise that he is even up there at all. >> he has looked at the disenfranchised voter race. people who are concerned about the trade deals. concerned about in the economy that has left them behind. donald trump has spoke to them. he is a strong leader. they love that about him. donald trump has blown up the political correct this. he actually says what they think. they feel that the media has treated them unfairly. that is what he has done. especially my part of the state. >> you are not going to take sides. >> i will not say that. >> would you be surprised? you would not be surprised if trump one. >> no, i would not.
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the state is divided up. not just as an aggregated number as a whole. i think that trump can when mine. he can pick up the delegates. >> everything looks different tomorrow morning. if there is some drama in the result. if bernie wins big, that offsets. if trump wins, he has a much clearer path to the presidency. >> he does. our liberals are progressive in wisconsin. they will go for bernie sanders. mark my word. >> we have been reporting that all morning. thank you so much for joining us. bernie sanders is poised to win wisconsin. surging in new york, two.
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you to remember when bernie sanders was dismissed. out of hand. a socialist in the white house. impossible. i said it myself. his path to the white house is not exactly clear. he certainly spoiled hillary's coronation. the last poll shows that bernie has an eight-point lead. two weeks ago, hillary had a six-point lead. she has been campaigning in new york. the news has gone bernie's way. all those stories about world billionaires. offshore tax havens.
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those wicked corporations trying to leave america. tailor-made for bernie. the $15 minimum wage. that is bernie's policy. heller is performance has not helped her. it makes you look, well, snappy. the e-mail hangover, it just dangles. bernie, indeed. waking up to the prospect of a showdown in new york. they look forward to a bernie versus hillary debate. brooklyn. very friendly territory. of course, there is that possible indictment. just like trump, you cannot dismiss bernie sanders. of course it is a long shot. but, wisconsin, maybe hillary's waterloo.
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stuart: almost 11:00 o'clock eastern time. bernie sanders has momentum. he says hillary is nervous. we have doug klein on the show. he is a man the man who wrote the book on the clintons. talking about hillary's behavior on the campaign trail. donald trump brings his wife lonnie a on the campaign trail. he is also revealing his plan to mexico pay for the wall. back to the families in mexico. that is leverage. third hour of "varney & company" starts now. ♪
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>> have we got news for you. jeff flock in milwaukee. what do you got? jeff: exploding right in the middle of the campaign. announcing this morning that it will build a $1.6 billion plan to make small cars in mexico. the central mexican town. they will create 2800 new jobs in mexico. as you know, this has been an issue in the campaign. donald trump criticizing the plans to move to mexico. it has invested $10 billion. they have added 10,000 jobs to the u.s. they made more vehicles in the u.s. last year then any of their
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competitors. >> beaten by gm in mexico. they made more vehicles in mexico. right here in the middle of this campaign. wow. stuart: the timing of the campaign. outcomes for it. how will that go down? thank you for joining us. cohost after the bell. melissa francis. melissa, heading to build a plant. a new one in mexico. >> it really is. look at the trade-off. we have cheaper energy. there is no reason towards why this should be done. they have not made it easy for companies to be here. they would prefer to have jobs.
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have factories here in the u.s. watch the factory line did any ceo will tell you that. stuart: i am doubtful that anyone could know that carfax or in southern california. >> it could change the law. if they were not being taxed and labor union to death. >> they are selling a lot of them there. if the roles were the same, a could do it in southern california. liz: he has threatened to slap a 35% tax on ford trucks. small cars, rather. >> watching this show. i am expecting a tweet. bernie sanders. he is surging in wisconsin. he could win there. that would give him serious momentum. april 9 team.
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an eight-point lead in the latest poll. eight points ahead. this guy has a shot at the nomination. >> he just keeps winning and losing at the same time. the system is so rigged on the democratic side. six out of the last seven. he still trails by so much. democrats should be periods. they should demand change. >> you should show every day his popular vote count. right at the top of his webpage. stuart: at the moment however, hillary does have more votes than hillary. >> it is a lot closer than the total they would tell you. they would say that he is totally out of it. >> donald trump now bringing his wife on the campaign trail with
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him. helping the favorability rating amongst women. >> he has the three to one. can women identify? stuart: is that a guess or a no? >> wait and see. i am not sure it will resonate. >> a softer side did the video clip that they made earlier. >> a legal immigrant. that is interesting and did not itself. >> that is right. stuart: now, this. donald trump has explained his plan for how mexico is going to pay for the wall that he wants to put up. a plan for the border.
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[laughter] stuart: he is going to threaten to halt how immigrants come to america. using that as leverage. >> the president cannot just change the law. >> you have to know who was on the other side. using that app. >> will the money be used to pay for the wall? stuart: he says we will stop the money flow. that is leverage. >> something that he understands very well. you talk about he verified.
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you told them that you're going to take half of the profit. there are smart financial ways to stop this behavior. stuart: i cannot get in a word edgewise when you are on the show. >> i brought it. i did my homework. stuart: it sounds like you are in favor of delta wall. >> i happen to be an economist that believes more is better for the economy. you have people that are calming and taking from the system, that changes things. i think you welcome people, but they have to pay their taxes. >> what do you want? >> listen to this. >> i have already talk so much already. >> and other corporate story.
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check the stock prices. they will begin with streaming some nfl games. here we go again. >> i cannot imagine watching my football on twitter. they only watch everything online. >> streaming it from the phone. we talked about it last hour. this makes twitter far more attractive. we do not know how much they will be losing. >> they have it down. >> see you next time. >> thank you very much. stuart: bernie's success getting under hillary clinton skin.
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an anger management problem. her angle will be exposed on the campaign trail. ed klein joins us now. you are reporting on the campaign trail. >> absolutely nothing. we have known for years and years. she throws books, lamps. one that has not been reported is her behind-the-scenes activities these days with her campaign. >> as of now. m brooklyn, there have been screaming fits by hillary. two years. people have actually walked out in july and the bernie because of her abusive behavior.
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a young girl who had screwed up some scheduling problem. grabbed her arm. twisted it. >> that is pretty strong stuff. >> getting her campaign managers a lot. in public during a campaign. people will start to think that she will be that mander. stuart: questioned by a greenpeace advocate. anger phase. >> a black lies matter person. a little bit of her lip. actually been told on many occasions that when she
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interviewed, what is wrong with this? why is he saying these terrible things about me. >> it sounds like it is that a boiling point. bernie sanders, an eight-point lead going into was confident. winning significantly in wisconsin. that gives momentum in new york. getting really upset. >> can you imagine if she loses new york state? >> added the that is the end of it, isn't it? >> a debate has been booked. april 14. brooklyn. that is rather favorable territory for bernie. >> no doubt about it. speaking with his brooklyn accent, if he wants. >> trying to get her a little.
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>> i think that this is bernie's last hurrah. if he can really turn the tide, then he is really on his way. as klein, thank you very much indeed. the obama administration wants to put up a fence around america. not literally, but administratively. we will have judge napolitano on that subject in just its minute. ♪ ♪ in new york state, we believe tomorrow starts today.
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has put out a statement. liz: the president saying essentially he's very troubled and very disappointed this happened them forever investment in mexico means jobs that could've and should've been available in the united states. the broken system needs to be fixed. stuart: i want to hear from donald trump. we fired it just broke at about 10 minutes ago. there is time. the drug company pfizer wants to buy allergan. that's a company based in dublin. the new rules may keep pfizer here in america. it can't just buy allergan and move over to america. judge andrew napolitano is going to pass judgment. a different subject for you today. >> yes. but it does come back to my area. when the government writes rules just to target an individual taxpayer, the court will perform a strict scrutiny of those rules because the government is the
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fact really changing the rules midstream. suppose allergan and pfizer comply with the government rules then it changes them again. that can effectively be a taking of assets from those corporations. stuart: that implies a court challenge. the secretary change the rules on the vine of foreign companies are moving overseas. they change the rules five or six months ago. >> right. because when the rules are known before you engage in the process, the government can do that and you can comply with the rules given the government changes the rules when you are midstream because it wants to disrupt your process, the government has a great deal of difficulty justifying rules. >> let's be honest if there's not a lawsuit that goes to the supreme court to say that guys there may indeed buy allergan. >> i don't know that. it depends on what the president announces today to make yet another announcement of what
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jack lew has concocted in order to prevent pfizer from lawfully avoiding the heavy taxes in the united states. you're laughing because you agree with me. stuart: i finally wound you up to the point where almost thing in the table. >> pfizer may find a way to comply with these rules and still be owned by an irish corporation. break itself into three smaller corporations that smaller corporations that this one. stuart: it's not legal with their ranks from the treasury. the problem is the extremely high rate of corporate tax by america, has been anybody else. >> we agreed that the government will never admit that. stuart: treasury secretary deputy would like to have a lower corporate tax. but congress won't do it. it is not congress. it's the president. >> who believes the treasury secretary when he says i want
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lower taxes when he's a liberal democrat like jack lew? nobody believes that. they hate corporations. they want to take all the cash they can to distribute the wealth and get political credit for it. now you've got me all wound up. i don't know where this is going to go. there is a principle of law, which sets in the government writes the law, uniquely to target an individual or corporation or taxpayer, the courts will impose a very, very high burden on the government to justify that because laws are supposed to apply to everyone and laws are supposed to be written before the event that they regulate, not the middle of it. stuart: i confidently expect to see the lawsuit laid back on this table by judge napolitano interrupting this entire process. >> we will see. [laughter] stuart: all right, judge,
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dilettante i can remember a successful court challenge to the obama administration is on the court challenge president obama's executive order to bring them for 5 million illegal immigrant. >> that was a radical departure by the president. stuart: all of these court challenges that you have gone in for her for the past seven years they don't happen. >> i acknowledge that. a lot of corporations are afraid to get in a dustup for fear will cost more money. stuart: for once, these lawyers within the represent, they're useless. >> wait until you need one, mr. bernie. [laughter] stuart: thank you very much. wisconsin does today. the political landscape could shift the democrats and republicans alike. watch out. you
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cents, but still at a lowly level of $35 a share. and repeat the story we've been breaking for the past half-hour. ford motor company has plans to open an ill a new fact or in mexico. 2800 jobs there, not here. fred barnes as it does from the weekly standard. this is only just happened. aims to me like an issue tailor-made for donald trump to grab this thing and ran with it. >> certainly. i'm sure he will. he can say i told you so. if you elect me president, i'll make sure it doesn't happen. i keep those 2000 jobs in the united states with her fourth likes it or not. i wouldn't call it a conservative position. certainly government interference, but if it's at the entire tribe campaign. that trade deals and allowing -- >> is ms. also read a bernie sanders street? he's been against trade agreement that is unfair.
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you can jump on this one, too. >> he can jump on it, but you said it right it is tailor-made for trump. trump has really fashioned this issue to his benefit. i think that trump has been running out of things to say recently. he's repeating himself so much. this will give them some are new to talk about a little hear about it for sure. stuart: i'm going to speculate. just suppose that donald trump wins in wisconsin. that rearranges the whole political landscape for the republican party as of tomorrow morning. >> i agree with you about that. this is a place where cruise has to win. drunkenness and so has the fallback position of winning in new york and a couple weeks and after that where he's very strong in connecticut, delaware, pennsylvania, maryland, connecticut.
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so you would still be in a strong position. if he loses wisconsin, it would be harder to get to a majority before the convention. but if he's close, he can negotiate with a lot of delicate who are committed to candidate who are not running anymore. he would still have a chance to win on the first ballot. stuart: fred, you and i are roughly the same vintage. could you ever believed in your entire history of stunning politics in america, could you ever believed they would be a situation with the socialist is surging in wisconsin. i could be the nominee for democrats. read outside donald trump could be the nominee for the republican. is there anything like this? >> never. why did we do to deserve this? i'm not sure what the answer is. it is something totally outside expectations. this is what they've always said. politics is not a science.
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there may be college professors who work for the department of political science. it really has been a science. i believe is my one rule of politics is that the future is never a straight line projection of the president. the future in politics, things change all the time. look at this ordeal out of nowhere. it is like a pop fly. there is trump fair with his glove, waiting for it to land in his glove. stuart: umi above it. i know we do. we are both absorbed by this. >> i don't know about love, but certainly enthralled. no question about that. stuart: i'll be watching all night tonight. thank you for joining us in getting involved in this breaking story. we appreciate that. stuart: donald trump has a problem. women voters don't like him. trump hopes that his wife can change that. more on this next.
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stuart: check the big board. we are down 85 points. the price of oil has something to do with the stock market decline. there at dirty $5 per barrel. that's not good news for stocks. 35 for oil. back to politics. donald trump has a problem with women. a poll out there is that 70% of women voters view donald trump is unfavorable. joining us now from a trump supporter and former republican governor of arizona, jan brewer. governor, welcome back. good to see you again. >> thank you him a sewer. be with you. stuart: did you ever see the day where donald trump would win a majority of women like for the presidential election? >> absolutely. i think people get to know him and understand him.
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i know donald personally and he's a genuine, kind, thoughtful person. a good listener and always a gentleman. everything is possible. the media has piled on. it's taken on a life of its own. i love him. stuart: he has responded to these polls with women as an unfavorable view of donald trump. he had his wife on the campaign trail yesterday. i saw him there in interviews. he was sitting rather quietly, letting her talk. he almost looked meek with his wife. it's not at all possible? >> that's a little bit of the site i know of him. i thought he did done it last night with melania. that will eventually catch on as people appear to users that olbermann aired his professional
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business career is proof of that because he's helped so many women climb up the business ladder. i know all the candidates personally, stuart. i can tell you that donald is far is very much a leader and respect law and a gentleman to women. stuart: he cannot with this plan to make mexico build a wall today is going to withhold the money that migrants sent back to mexico and say hey, mexico, you pay for that wall or you don't get this money. what do you say to that? >> well, haven't read the plan, but whatever it takes, let's do it. i'm on that army. we need a law. we need a built-in mini to build now. it should've been done along time ago. everybody is tired of the same old from politicians going back. donald is a breath of fresh air
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and is going to turn our country around. i have all the faith in him. the people of wisconsin will. stuart: what people believe but he said he's going to do? i'm sorry i'm out of time. it's always fun to talk to you. we will talk again soon. >> thank you so much promise to her. stuart: still in politics. there is a rule created in 2012 by the republican national committee. it is the 40 bu roll. i've heard interpretations of this rule to suggest that it would allow someone completely from the outside of the republican primaries winning the delegates to just come in and take the nomination. liz: here is what the role says. gop can only be nominated if they won the majority of delegate and eight or more states. stuart: joining us now is randy evans from the origins the cover
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republican national committee, wrote an debate committee. we are looking at this 40 bu rule. that is what drives everybody crazy. people think you guys in your back rooms are just going to take the nomination away from people with delicate cinnabon states and give it to some rank outsider. that's what people believe. do on a set them straight? >> actually, let me correct one thing because every network on the front sunday. you don't have to win the delegates. you have to demonstrate support of the majority of the delegates. that is where the wiggle room gets brought in. it means literally anybody, whether you win or didn't, if you can get a majority of a state to demonstrate support by an affidavit or oath, you can have your name put in nomination. more likely than not, that's not going to happen because most of the delegates are bound on the first ballot. the real question will be what
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if nobody went on the first ballot. can somebody with these unbound delegates can take days to put their name in nomination? stuart: do understand why people are getting worried about that. >> absolutely. stuart: you put the cat amongst the pigeons. >> you've really kind of opened up the door. i saw last night the rnc posted a video rnc posted a video and said there's two options. we will either have a pres convention. an open convention means anybody can run, anybody can be elected. they still have to get 1237. that creates a whole day or in it's an opportunity for other candidates to get in the mix. stuart: it is extremely unlikely that 40b will be invoked. >> i can't tell you because there is already a rules amendments to change the number
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from eight to 52320. there is also a rule that says after the first ballot you immediately go to the second ballot, which would then not allow their names to be put in nomination. there's many power to say no, no. the original names get the number of delegates. literally, we have no real good idea what to expect when we get to cleveland in july. stuart: server, you are not the hottest is the fact others seem. i wish you the very best of luck. >> i appreciate you having me clarify that. liz: how can they win support. stuart: go ahead, randy. >> she asked exactly the right question, which is how you demonstrate supported you can do it later by an oath. you can do it by affidavit. you can do it by pledge. you have to do is demonstrate support.
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you are the first person, stuart, to have zeroed in on the difference between having to win eight stay and actually just cobbling together unbound delegates to be able to get her name in nomination, which opens it up for everyone. stuart: randy evans, good luck. >> thanks for having me. stuart: i've got another surprise. ernie sander is gaining on clinton in new york. we have a hillary supporter up next. [beekeeper] from bees to business expenses,
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>> 2.5 million more people have voted for hillary didn't hurt me so far. even if she doesn't do so well in wisconsin, a against obama she lost by 17-point. even if she loses in wisconsin by a few points, she is still way ahead. stuart: momentum. if bernie wins wisconsin, he might win by four, five, six points. >> insurmountable lead. >> talk about momentum. there's always the investigation hanging over her, which could seriously disrupt the convention. >> the next few primaries on the registered democrats can vote and historically that means she wins by double digits. she is well ahead pennsylvania, california, new jersey, new york. even when she ran against obama
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in 2008, when she had a surgeon she won a lot of the states, shall in texas, pennsylvania. she couldn't catch a to obama. bernie could not catch up to hillary. stuart: a delegate count. >> hillary as well ahead. stuart: you are probably right. i can see how hillary is a likely nominee. they stay home. >> they will not want the republican to win the presidency. stuart: all of the voters straight across the aisle. how about the brooklyn debate booked for april 14th. >> she will do very well. senator of new york for eight years. been in new york since he was born. stuart: you will not admit the slightest element of doubt. this is not to fascinate. >> now, 2016.
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stuart: hillary is not taking it for granted. she is working really hard, but i think she's going to do great. she is well ahead. supporters will line up behind hillary at the end of the day. they don't want a republican to be a lack it. stuart: one of the most optimistic points of view. >> what happens. down the line democrats. look how well she's doing. stuart: hollies that man, always a pleasure. >> wisconsin is a very friendly state. minorities like new york had >> progressive state. stuart: we will agree to differ. thank you so much. marco rubio could win in florida, his home state. according to some reports, he's already thinking of running in 2020. >> what did you take? there are two billion people
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stuart: just one of the pupil and a half of the people in the hot seat at the republican party chair of the rnc, reince priebus. i run peter barnes sat down with him. with the headline. >> is trying to manage turmoil and his party, stuart. because it is the day of the wisconsin primary, we figured it
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was a good reason to me reince priebus from wisconsin. when reince priebus was in the last, he never expected the earthquake his party has become into the next gop convention in cleveland in july. >> if anyone tries to make the case that they knew they would be talking about a contested convention in april. they would be lying to you. i didn't expect it. >> punching it out with two other strong-willed competitors. the reince priebus has had to ca eight months of debate, prager is to throw punches thrown. a top deputy says the 40 for your wisconsinite who started in politics as a high school campaign volunteer is the right leader for the times by a cold midwestern temperament and a
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knowledge of party and convention rules. >> he was a former general counsel. he's been through a convention before. he's been tested on the state level and national level. he's balanced a lot of disparate interest. reporter: now on his third two-year term, reince priebus is the ultimate gop insider and a party dominated by frustrated members clamoring for outsiders. it is probably the toughest job in politics right now. >> i think it is a tough job. after six years of being chairman and getting used to in many cases not being loved by a lot of people. reporter: he also says he's ignoring his twitter feed and he's having fun with his front row seat and taken it all a day at a time. stuart: if i was him i would avoid twitter feed their time.
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thank you very much indeed. we'll have born later. marco rubio interested in running for presidency in 2020. in the meantime, he's still the job offers. charlie has this story. >> this is a change. guys come out of public office and go where the money is. jeb bush did it. hillary clinton with all the speeches. one place he does not -- i can't say guaranteed he won't do it. supporters of paul singer are hedge fund guys. when placing a stigma is too big, too much is wall street. all the way act the financial
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collapse caused the great recession. economic malaise we have right now. the question is where it is where does the one work. two things he's telling people. he wants to be president. he may run in 2020. about to be president miami dolphins. he's a huge football fan. the job is taken as well. this is an interesting thing. 44 years old. smart guy, interesting guy, if he wants to go in 2020, he will be hired for political expertise. his time to lehman brothers and barclays. he needs to make money because he has a lot of debt. stuart: he needs to make money. many politicians often have a lot of money in the bank. >> jeb bush comes from a rich family. he basically went out in a money
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for lehman brothers and barclays. he does need to make money. the choices are limited. >> he does have the car dealership. maybe he can sell used cars. i'm only kidding. he's a smart guy. he has a law degree. stuart: he does want to run again in 2020. >> ynez fostered is the kiss of death. stuart: i think is right on that. i can't believe it but i think he's right. incredible, isn't it? listen to this. the prime minister -- he just resigned. i'd be that later. this is all about the panama papers. of flights to get you here. a few weeks ago, you didn't even know where here was.
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also due at the pan amonte occurs. the leaking of all these people around the world who have accounts in tax havens. the prime minister of iceland and his wife have such an account. train for conflict of. a shell company at the panamanian law firm that invested in three banks essentially getting built up money from iceland. he didn't disclose that in his dealings as prime minister. stuart: no american names have surfaced so far but there's an investigation into what? liz: possible violations of dealing with but as to companies. so far in the papers and involves syria, iran and north korea potentially. stuart: tax havens could have funneled money to get to the bad guys. >> they are promising more names than a month and that could include. stuart: 11.5 million documents already. more to come?
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adam, lives, thank you indeed. our time is up. that meal, it is yours. neil: thank you. he could be the first of many to go. 11.5 million documents on the panama papers. with 72 present or former heads of state or their close buddies and friends, including those in and around vladimir putin with $2 billion in that country about. we are also looking at the fallout from this decision on the corporate inversions. effectively using the president of the united states work in a treasury department to all but make them illegal. many say they can't do that. they are reacting to all of this. looking very dicey with close to 16%. to reincorporate ireland but the tax rate much lower if that goes southbound. pfizer moves up as the choir
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