own head, choking, you know, having a meltdown. >> am i breathing right? >> we had a lessen on that earlier. just breathe. good to see everybody. kevin kelly and dagen mcdonald. and "varney & company," over to charles payne in for stuart. >> we've got a lot of stories for you and donald trump calls it a corrupt system as ted cruz grabs gobs of colorado delegates and your opinion, is it fair or just the rules? same thing on the democratic side, maybe worse. bernie sanders going after hillary's super delegates, he can't win without them. his new line is maybe hillary's judgment isn't as high as it should be. that's a good line for him. and a cia chief says absolutely

no to waterboarding now and under any future president. ralph peters is here. and the boston globe front page a future with donald trump. not very flattering. probably sell your 401(k)'s with this one. "varney & company" is about to beg begin. >> the heart break of the week, jordan spieth's historic meltdown at the masters. here it is again. he shot a quadruple bogey. if you play golf, you've probably been there, not with with this much on the line. he gave up five to the eventually champion. the largest blown lead in the masters in years. and danny willet is your

champion. stuart varney is probably torn on this one. spieth had to put the green jacket on the new champion. >> he fell asleep after the first nine. four birdies in a row. when he leaked oil, he checked it in the water and then into the bunker, but to his credit he hung in there came back and made birdies and pulling for him at the end. if he got the birdie on 16 and right place, right time, willet was amazing. >> a good story line and we forget sometimes that spieth is it only 22. ashley: 22. >> thank you. and in the meantime, the stock market, take a look at dow futures, we're looking open a little higher. one of the things we look at is oil. for now moving side ways,

remember, 40 is an important number. we're up 1%, for a long time the market has been in lock step with oil. oil is huge and could be breakout. unfortunately means gas is going up. stuck at 2.04, it's gone up a lot. we're way below 2%, 10 year yield. if it's above 2%, people feel better about the global economy and perhaps our economy. want to get back to politics. donald trump criticizing the rnc and its system. roll tape. >> they weren't given a vote. this was given by politicians, it's a crooked deal and i see it, honestly, i see it with brny, too. that's not the way that democracy is suppose today work. what kind of a system is this, i'm an outsider and i came into the system and winning the votes by millions of votes, but the system is rigged, it's crooked. when you look even at bernie, i'm not a fan of bernie, but every time i turn on your show,

bernie wins, bernie wins, bernie wins, yet, bernie is not winning. >> and miss america 2008 is with us, donald trump says it's not the way a democracy should work, it's not fair. what do you think? >> i just wonder the experience he has in politics to be able to say that this is not fair and not the way politics is supposed to work. he's new to this as he just said. it strikes me odd, too, he's lauded as someone who is able to surround himself with the most intelligence people and they weren't able to tell him this. having to get the most delegates to win has been around 150 years. and people were able to vote in the primaries, the earlier 20th century. ashley: bottom line, he's being outhustled. >> exactly. ashley: he doesn't like it. ted cruz has been out there with a good ground game, quietly and what they need to do.

>> the new guy he brought in, the accused the cruz campaign of gestapo tactics. what i have read about in colorado, the wrong delegate numbers and misspellings, too little, too late. it's art of the deal political style and it's good he's bringing in career guys who now how to deal with this, the big question for some, is it too little, too late. in south carolina he's losing a lot of delegates as we speak. >> and in louisiana. yeah, it could be too little, too late. he is a winning the popular vote, but not winning when it comes to the political game. >> interesting to see, if this narrative that he's continuing to talk about, it just feeds that anger among the people that love him, and so, as we go to possibly contested conv conventi convention, they stir that. >> and we say metaphorically,

pitchforks and torches. and a democracy, there's a distinction with the delegates. art laffer, donald trump getting outhustled, complaining a lot about the system behind. he's won a plurality of the vote, but there's a part of the game that's been around for a long time, too. >> yeah, it is what it is. the system is there. my mom was an alternative delegate in 1952 for bob taft. this has been way the game has been played for a long time and frankly, it's not easy. it's the training ground tore candidates and those candidates who can make it through this process are going to be really highly found to take on hillary or bernie. and that's mattwhat matters. i'm delighted the frontrunners, cruz and trump, they both have great tax plans.

i wish they get together and really make sure that a third person doesn't come in. it would be if that happens-- >> because of the sort of civil war that we're seeing long time friends and allies in the republican party and now put downs and smearing with each other is so ugly to watch, amazing. >> it's always been that way. >> i think it's worse this time, art. >> it's pretty bad i have to admit. >> i'm seeing people fighting the conservative cause for decades called all kinds of names and it's ridiculous. but i want to point to a new fox news poll that shows donald trump with a very, very strong lead in two big northeastern states, pennsylvania, and kasich second and ted cruz. and new york, donald trump 54%, critical to kay search 22, and cr cruz. >> donald trump would be 50% plus 1. he'll get the at large delegates and three delegates for every congressional

district with 50% or more, that's a critical number for him. >> it would be ironic if he gets 50% and 100% of the delegates and some say that's unfair. in the same poll donald trump winning-- not bad for a by who is supposedly doing badly with women. >> a lot of women aren't going to vote on how they speak or-- a lot of women vote on national security, the economy and not leslie trying to-- and sometimes they just don't watch all the news that's been out about what he said. obviously you talk to average people and-- >> the plus 17% of all women in new york state, art laffer still with us, everyone saw this boston globe parody, they published it in the sunday paper and it's phenomenal. under a donald trump presidency.

and the one that grabs our attention particularly when it comes to you, market safe as trade war looms. here is what happens with the market, in a two-week period, the market dropped 40% according to this article. back down to the lows of 2009 listen, i'm not a big trade war fan, do you think that the damage would be that bad if we indeed went into one? >> i don't understand the boston globe, obviously these guys aren't rocket surgeons, let me tell you, you look at massachusetts, not the greatest economy in the world either. i mean, what donald trump is proposing, 90% of what he's proposing is kennedy economics, right out of massachusetts, tax rate reductions, pro growth agenda, you know, when he looks at trade, trade barriers are bad for the economy and if we were to block all trade, let's say smoot hawley, but i don't think that donald trump or ted cruz is going to do something silly like that. what he does, like all the

politicians do, they threaten tore trade and better deals for the u.s. we've been doing that forever. i don't know what candidate, bernie, hillary or any of the republicans who really understand trade. i mean, trade is not about jobs, it's not about that, it's about the diversity and being able to enhance your income by getting choice. it's all specialization. >> economics 101, trade is a voluntary thing done between two parties. >> exactly. >> if we don't want to trade with china, fine, and all countries have tariffs, but china is not going to bend, they're not going to fall on the inauguration day of donald trump. so's got to live up to his sabre rattling to a degree. would that cause the market to pause? >> i don't think so. he's a free trader, and we'll have to wait and see, but i don't see any of the candidates, charles, honestly, none of them talk about gains from trade, win, win, compared, none of them talk about that,

they talk about trade in terms of jobs. let me give you an example if we had a cure or alzheimer's and japan discovered a cure for cancer. and they would know the buy our cure for alzheimer's, should we not buy their treatment for cancer. >> hold it right there. we have media buzz harold kirtz and weigh in on the boston globe parody. and in the meantime, check this out, talking elon musk, he does it, finally sticks the landing. i think that was the sixth attempt to land and nonetheless, that is different than the rival, and huge. john kerry laying a wreath at hiroshima, the site where the united states dropped a nuclear bomb to help end world war ii.

he says that kerry -- ralph peters is next.

>> strong words on waterboarding from cia director john brennan. he says the cia won't do it again even if ordered by a future president. he was specifically talking about donald trump. take a listen to this. >> absolutely, i would not, i would not agree to having any cia officer carrying out waterboarding. >> joining us is colonel ralph peters. >> it's grand standing. a former cia professional john brennan has thrown in his lot with the democratic party and the obama administration. he's kowtowed to obama all along so this is aimed specifically at the republicans and the message is, republicans want to torture, vote for good guys, vote for the democrats and sad to say, brennan has refused to say islamist terror.

he went along with fort hood being workplace violence and everything after that so it's sad to see a former cia professional turn into a political hack. that's it. charles: all right. well, that's one for you, john kerry visiting hiroshima, the memorial. you're not happy about this, why? >> well, for multiple reasons. one, although the state department whispers that, oh, it's not an apology. just the visual going there for the u.s. secretary of state amounts to apology. why is that wrong? well, it's wrong because, first of all, he's doing it on the 74th anniversary of the baton death march. now, for younger viewers, let me run that by you. after months of heroic resistance in the philippines, our forces and our philippine allies were forced to surrender to the japanese on the baton peninsula. about 75,000 weakened americans and filipinos were forced to march in the heat and no food

and water, if they fell behind they were bayonetted or clubbed, and if they were lucky they shot. and others rode on horseback decapitating americans and filipino soldiers to practice their samurai skills. and that doesn't fit the obama and kerry narrative. that was small potatoes that the japanese committed in china and elsewhere, millions of chinese dead and don't forget the other prison camps. the crucial point, obama and kerry pushed the narrative that america is always guilty. let me tell you about the atomic bombs, not nuclear weapons, the nuclear twices game later. dropping those on hiroshima and nagasaki saved millions of japanese leaves as well as hundreds of thousandsen v of american and allies lives. millions were slated for the invasion of the home islands in

japan. hundreds of thousands were on ships at nearby islands waiting to go ashore. it would have been a blood bath and every one of those soldiers and marines on those ships and islands were relieved when the bomb went down. is it a human tragedy for those individuals? >> yes. but even beyond hiroshima and nagasaki, the nuclear umbrella kept the peace, longest for the back to and including the roman empire, that's it. charles: before i let you go then, should there have been any american representative there to say, hey, this is part of war, we won the war, but we also feel your pain for the extraordinary expense to which the atomic bomb, you know, the amount of death, instant deaths and collateral damage. >> if you need to send a token, don't send the secretary of state. don't do it on the anniversary

of the baton death march, but again, this is always just more of america's always bad, america's always bad, and i am sick of it. charles: well, you know, the obama administration tried to atone for the evils that america's done for a long time and that's been a central narrative of social justice with them. colonel peters, thank you very much, see you soon. >> thank you. charles: another win for bernie sanders in wyoming and once again, the delegate count didn't quite go his way. that's next. the heirloom tomato.

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polls, but, the guy is on a roll. >> he won his eighth state, eighth state in a row with wyoming and goes to show how much momentum and the movement really that he has, but pennsylvania and new york, i mean, those are hillary, she has institutional support, the support of minorities, the support of women, and so, i mean, those are going to go her way no matter what. ashley: it's interesting that bernie sanders is going after the minority base of hillary clinton by bringing up her husband's legislation with regards to the justice system and tough on crime. charles: it strikes a nerve. ashley: i think he's winning some points. charles: a whole lot of point the. elijah cummings, and spike lee made a video. >> and bill clinton, black lives matters protests, that doesn't look good for hillary there.

what he says about the stuff she's voted for, that resonates with a lot of people. back in october, that was the deadline for people to apply to be registered as democrats, right? even though he's resonating, is it too little, too late. >> and he's taking a different tact with the super delegates. you think the g.o.p. side is unfair, the super delegate thing to me is outrageous. >> it is. charles: bernie says he's trying to woo them. he's not saying how unfair the system is, but, hey, i'll try to woo them, so they're the establishment and hillary clinton is the establishment. how much luck will he have there not a lot. >> all the democrats are going out for the democratic nominee. >> a little bit of green, dow 18k watch has been for a couple weeks, but we've been moving side ways.

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there's a sign that says clap, clap, even if the market is down. you've got to pump them up. after three weeks of let's call it a floppy market. february 11th we almost crashed, we did not crash, we rebounded and now the market is consolidating, but looking for help. that's it now official. the opening bell is ringing in new york and nasdaq and the first tick up. and the question is what's the catalyst to bring this rally again. let's bring in ashley webster, jack, and first, oil and stocks, they were moving in lock step, but on friday, oil was up huge and the market actually lost a lot of steam. is that correlation off for now? we call it the webster ratio around here. >> dan? >> oh, it shouldn't have been a ratio at all because if you have to look at oil, you have to look at the demand side and demand has been pretty much.

supply is what dictated the price of oil and that hasn't really changed that much. so the market has gotten back to normalcy, which is a good inning. we shouldn't be using oil as an indicator of what the stock market is going to be doing in and of itself. it has to be part of the big picture. over the past weeks it wasn't. charles: can you extrapolate. the oil and economy are doing better and then a better stock market? >> i won't go that far. last yooer they were talking china's demand was down and in fact, it was record. our demand is picking up. part of that has to do with the fact that oil prices and gas prices are inexpensive right now so people aren't as reluctant to drive as they were in the past. will that filter into the economy? somewhere down the line it will. it hasn't shown up yet. >> the nucew correlation, one o

my theories, jack, because the central banks have gone to negative rates, if that wasn't enough to move their currency lower, maybe the signal was that all central banks were out of it, they could not do anything else, they could never come back to the rescue and then, of course, yellen meeting with obama today. the central banks are a central focus. they're a central focus, but the relationship is breaking down as a result of the central bank action. >> why? >> in our cover story in barren's, bill gross is arguing with rates so low so long in the u.s. you're no longer getting the stimulus effect. there's no one out there looking to do a piece of business holding out for a quarter point lower in interest rates, but you're getting a skew-- >> all right, guys, let's talk about a couple of everyday names you've known that have done extremely well, coke and mcdonald's at all-time highs and don't want to forget tech,

apple, amazon, microsoft, gaining some traction and specific look at netflix, they're going to be raising prices and it could be huge, e-mack, for the company liz: they're talking 17 million could be affected nearly 40% of users. what happened, netflix changed pricing in 2014 had saying to the older, you know, the present customers you can continue to pay at 7.99 a month, rising it to 9.99, 120 a year about, versus around $98. charles: i read over the weekend, 80% of netflix users don't know this is coming liz: that's right, ubs is saying, people love netflix so much, maybe 4% quit it. charles: that's pricing power. in the meantime, disney, they've had issues, but not when it comes to the movies. they've got great reviews for the captain america movie? >> yeah, captain america civil war, disney made an unusual

move, said to the critics, we'll show it early and post your critiques and people say this is a great movie and there's a caveat here, the critics said the same of superman versus batman and that did not get so great reviews. charles: although the numbers, the money, the bottom line for disney, doesn't matter how much anymore, but we hear all of this great stuff and see the numbers pouring in on the movie side. the stock, the needle doesn't move, is it because of espn? >> i think part of it is espn. a lot of 24 tent pole disney movies between now and the end. decades. >> that includes disney, pixar, lucas films. >> time warner, talk to them, they're ramping up super hero movies. could we run into super hero overload, and the super saturation. >> and six movies for the year by the end of the decade. charles: i thought it was cool. any that there's a come cameo.

and nicole, how are the shares doing. nicole: they're looking at the shares, they're squashed, down about 7%, it's abouten such a loser the last year, down more than 50% and one of the reasons, they said, the pricing basically the revenue per rental vehicle dropped 3% in the first quarter and saying that that will continue to have pressure on them and they're taken down, hertz by the way down 7% and taking down avis budget with this news as well, which is cars. their ticker symbol. the industry getting hit by the news. charles: the new economy is hurting them and uber, i think, is hurting them as well. thanks, nicole. apple, barron's said this could be $150 stock, giving up 46 cents. what's up with barron's, used to be 2 $3. >> this is heavy lifting, charles, come on. we examine a couple of cases made on wall street about how

smooth the earnings of apple has become and rising portion of services, and just, i think that investors have got it totally wrong viewing. this is a gadget seller. if you compare this to the s&p 500, keep in mind, apple reports straight up gap earnings, everybody reports the earnings filled with excuses. on that basis, the s&p is 20 times earnings. i'll pay 11 1/2 times to get the growth-- >> that's the argument for a long time. the bearish part has been an anchor for this stock for a long time. >> absolutely. people are worried about slowing iphone sales and i think they've got to watch the rise in services. >> all right, guys, what's this, by the way, the next camera, i want to ask you, it's got two cameras in the back. is that a game changer? >> no, no more game changer. the last game changer was the big screen. there are no more game changer. people who use the phones don't care, they have a lifetime of family photos on the clouds somewhere, they want the new

gadget and move on with their lives. charles: a lot riding on that iphone 7. the barron's bounce is helping toll brothers, jack, look at that, almost 2% move. what's the deal? why toll and not the other home builders? >> they make homes for rich people. i don't know if you've heard that. >> i wouldn't know. >> rich people versus poor people. so, you know, skewing how we've had a separation of wealth. high end people are doing very well and toll, the stock has been hurt because they've been building in new york city and people are worried about it, the new york city market is going to fall apart and we can't sustain the higher prices. come on, please? they're going to go okay, and the stock is cheap here. charles: full closure my subscribers own the stock. >> there's a scary, scary number, ashley, what do you make of that. ashley: how much?

>> 63 grand. ashley: i'm amazed it's that much. there's a study that shows americans don't have any savings at all and get by on social security and no pensions, no other things put aside. it's a freightening number because what are they going to do in their retirement? >> people are afraid to put money to work. it's been the most unloved rally in history. they're selling mutual funds, you can't put it under the pillow. >> to your young viewers, don't think about how much you should be saving, max out your 401(k) and figure out how to work after. eat rice and beans if you have to, max out liz: the rice and beans menu, okay. charles: take a look at wynn. steve, wynn making a lot of people-- unfortunate comments about poor people. . ashley: he told a group of investors and said basically nobody likes being around poor people. poor people don't like being around poor people, but went on to say rich people only like to be around rich people.

this is a guy totally out of touch. charles: and the guy that poked the hole in the picasso, right? >> and the insurance company. what he's trying to say in an incredibly awkward way, look, we have three new properties brought out and we cater to all levels and made these statements liz: it doesn't look good for the brand the guy with the name on it saying something like that especially when that company makes a lot of money pulling in middle class people and making them poor via gambling. >> selling vegas casinos, and not like he's selling ford fiesta liz: you're okay with that comment? >> i'm not okay with it, but-- >> the big profits come from the high rollers in macao. i'll tell you that steve wynn inherited a small bingo parlor and built it into an empire. one of my here unfortunate

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>> checking on the big board here. shares of coca-cola hitting a lifetime high, the second in a row. now this, billionaire david tepper has moved from new jersey to florida and the state

losing 140 million dollar hole in the garden state liz: i tell you something, the high taxes there. when you have state officials so worried it that they mention that david tepper, not by name, that he's leaving, it shows you how dangerous this budget situation is in new jersey. between 2005 to 2014, something like 2 million people left taking billions with them. charles: taking out job skills and taking out opportunity. ashley: the inheritance tax and income tax rate, i mean, get a clue. >> the worry you line up the pros and cons moving to florida, you find out there is no cons, the sunshine and-- >> i want to go to you on this, a lot of us are tethered to the big cities like new york and new jersey. this is amazing and this is a state that's put itself in this predicament. >> illinois is the same way, i think we have the biggest mass

migration out of the state and rather to address the issue whether people are leaving, whether it be new jersey, illinois or any state, they raise taxes and don't find out, what can we do to keep our talent here, it's going to create a major problem down the line. that's nothing to say, what's going on in the country. here you see all of these tax inversions going on because the tax code is so screwed up. let' get this thing simplified. bring the money back to the states, bring money back to the united states and let's go from there. charles: you could actually argue this is human inversion liz: the corporate tax-- >> people are moving away because it doesn't make sense. david tepper is not using $140 million worth of services in new jersey. >> that's right. and thank god they don't have the job market that we do in new york or there'd be no reason left. for now it's just-- >> let's leave it there, thanks a lot. let' go back to politics now, president obama appeared on fox news sunday and asked about

hillary's e-mail scandal. he guaranteed the public that no political influence has been used in the pending investigation. roll tape. >> can you guarantee to the american people, can you direct the justice department to say hillary clinton will be treated as the evidence goes, she will not be in any way protected? >> i can guarantee that. i guarantee there's no political influence in any investigation conducted by the justice department or the fbi, not just in this case, but in any case. charles: president obama also saying that this is difference between e-mails labeled classified. roll that tape. >> there's classified and then there's classified. there's stuff that is really top secret, top secret and then there's stuff that is being presented to the president or the secretary of state that you might not want on the trance--

tr transom or over the wire and-- >> all raise because andrew napolitano is here. there's classified and classified. >> i was surprised he was snarky saying there's classified and then there's classified. he took an oath to uphold the law and that the secretary of state is to know what is secret, top secret and classified by looking at it not on the basis of a stamped word that might be on it. charles: and an answer in the sense that hey, some of that stuff isn't no big deal. i guesses the inference, a national security risk, it happens to be classified in a certain way. >> it doesn't matter if it presents a national security risk, the crime for what she's investigated is the failure to safeguard state secrets. however, last week, the justice department extradited a romanian secret service agent who was serving seven years or hacking in a romanian jail and one of the people he hacked is

a guy named syd blumenthal. sid blumenthal is mrs. clinton's contact, and they probably want to know did you see any of his stuff. >> and the president when he said hillary was careless may have hurt her rather than help her. what is careless? negligence. how can you prove espionage, negligence. it's the rare federal crime for which negligence is a basis, you can be-- >> he's saying she would never intentionally and that's the head tip to james comey and loretta lynch, isn't it sort of giving them cover to not prosecute here and it opens them, makes them vulnerable to attacks that if they do not move ahead in that investigation. >> i don't think so because as i just said, you don't have to show intent. however, there are two e-mails in which she says to her

subordinates, remove the top secret marking, cut and paste, and send it to me on your own fax machine so that i can read it. that shows an intent to disobey. charles: either way i think president obama's more not on the legal side, but for the general election, trying to provide some cover for her that the average person-- i want to ask you quickly about the boston globe cover, deportation toss begin, it's a pretty hard parody, satire if you will of donald trump. can he do anything about this? >> he would like to. this is the exact type of satire that he hates and he would like to make the basis for liability for a lawsuit, for damages. it's protective, satire is as old and deep as the country itself. nothing compared to thomas jefferson and abraham lincoln. charles: one says new libel law targets absolute scum in the press.

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>> we've got a developing story for you, a man was arrested sunday in the death of former new orleans saints star will smith. smith helped to lead the team to victory in the super bowl. ashley you've got more details. ashley: it's sad the suspect in this case alleged drew a handgun and shot smith several times after hayes himself rear-ended will smith's car who was then pushed into another car. hayes' attorney after he was, i think said first appearance in court, my client is pleading not guilty. he felt that will smith was going for a gun and he shot smith several times and shot his wife. charles: ap he was found slumped over a steering wheel. >> he was rear-ended and the

person was aggressively going, which is sad. charles: we'll see if there are any announcements by black lives matter to protest this or not. a quick check of the market now, up 117 points and there is a he a good start to the market, it's been sloppy for the last three weeks. we want to shift gears. a dartmouth college sorority canceled its kentucky derby theme party after they said it was offensive and invoked the plantation era south. come in, todd starnes. >> sweet lord, almighty, charles. you need to drink a couple of mint juleps before and after. >> we should take offense. >> this is ivy lead lunacy, the party according to black lives

matter protesters is symbolic of the pre-war south, the southern war and as mississippi calls it the war of northern aggression, that's beside the point here. the interesting fact is, that the kentucky derby didn't start until ten years after the civil war. so it has nothing to do with the civil war, but nevertheless, they say it's racist, it's offensive and decided to pull the plug. charles: i found it interesting of the first 15 winners, black jockeys were 13 of the first 15 winners and they were treated pretty good, some of them became stars in europe and lived better than the average american black or white at the time. >> charles, truth is irrelevant to perpetually offended young people. it's interesting, cotton was a big part of the pre-wore south and i'm not sure if they're going to be running around naked and t-shirts there. and it's like saying colonel sanders is racist with the

herbs and spices. charles: there's a part of america's past that they feel like they should reject, i mean, obviously, they've gone way too far and it's off the chain, but i'm trying to figure out how it got to this point. >> there's this idea of privilege, an idea of rewriting american history. we've seep parts of this where they've accused our founding fathers much being terrorists and now of course wanting to eradicate all vestiges of the past, i believe, all the way back to george washington, even, it's pretty outrageous. charles: tom starnes, great piece. talk to you soon. speaking of pieces, not as great, the boston globe printed a fake front page with a future president trump. not too flattering. and hockey player mike richter, what he's doing to fight childhood cancer. the second hour of "varney &

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>> i'm charles payne in for stuart varney. another big day for politics, donald trump is under attack from all sides and ted cruz gets all the delegates in colorado and donald trump says it wasn't an election. he is calling the electoral system corrupt. get ready for a big fight in cleveland. and the boston globe publishing an all-out attack with mock headlines with a future president donald trump. moments from now, hour two. >> all right, let's get right to that boston globe story. with us now the editor behind that fake front page from the boston globe ideas section, kate kathleen, welcome to the

show. you've got a lot of feedback, i guess that's part of what you wanted to achieve. >> we wanted a conversation and we're pleased by that. charles: conversation, more like screaming on all sides. perhaps, do you feel as a journalist you might have crossed that divide of journalistic integrity despite the fact we know it's a parody, even people in your industry think you guys went way too far with this. >> absolutely not. for generations american newspapers have had editorial pages and news operations which have been completely separate. the same goes for at the boston globe. every day our editorial page comments on news of the day and politics, and this is just a unique way of doing that. you're right, this is a political satire, but it's also a political commentary and what we're saying is we want the g.o.p. to stop, pause, and consider whether or not this is the direction it wants to head in. charles: you know, so you're

predicting 40% decline in the stock market, soldiers refusing to take orders from the president of the united states, riots throughout the united states, those are just some. things that you guys are predicting to the public will happen immediately under president donald trump? >> you know, everything that's on that page is based in fact. we took-- >> the market going down 40% is a fact. soldiers refuse to go take orders from the president of the united states is a fact? >> because you talk to policy analysts and we talked to a wide spectrum of people about what they saw the natural consequences of some of donald trump's statements are and frankly the candidate himself has not filled in the details for us so we decided to do it ourselves. charles: so you made certain assumption toss lead to your facts? >> of course, remember, this is an active political satire, and we obviously took a little poetic license and tried to have a little bit of fun with it, but in reality, this is

also a really deeply troubling vision for america. and we want anyone who is going into the voting booth and selecting donald trump to know what they're getting with that vote. charles: there's one article probably echoed here, the new libel law targets absolute scum in the press. i don't think that any of donald trump's followers and casual observers of this system will disagree with that now. and i don't think that you've created friends with this. again, people who are mostly neutral are feeling that you guys probably overstepped the boundaries here. >> you know, this really wasn't about making friends, this was about creating a conversation, having a dialog, really taking donald trump at his word and we are still reporting this out like we do all of our editorials and the reality is that we found a deeply disturbing, dark america under a trump presidency. charles: when you guys sat around the table discussing

this, was there anyone who says we should have something on there now, that's not hypothetical, but that talks about the realities of wages being stagnant, that employment, you know, is not a-- a lot of part-time jobs, that the american people have feel they've lost control of this country, shouldn't there have been something to add a little balance between a hypothetical under the worst case scenario that you guys envisioned and really what a lot of people see as an america has lost its way. >> every topic you mentioned the editorial page weighed in time and time again. we've written several editorials before and endorsed john kasich and all the issues you're talking about are deeply important to us, things we comment on regularly, but in reality we really wanted to get people's attention and have them really talking about what the future might hold if donald trump is in the white house. charles: kathleen kingsbury,

you certainly got everyone's attention. charles: thank you for coming in. >> thank you for having me. charles: i want to bring a donald trump supporter pastor jeffers. you had a chance to listen to this, what's your take, the boston globe and its fake front page? >> this reminds me, charles, of something i would have done when i was editor of my junior high newspaper, the with west wind: i want you to envision, just a moment, what the reaction would have been if fox news.com had posted a similar satire on a president hillary clinton with a headline, president clinton sentenced to ten years in prison for e-mail scandal. i guarantee you there would have been a howl and a cry from the left. charles, ultimately this is meaningless, in spite of the

globe's relentless attacks on donald trump. trump won the massachusetts primary, and what this is is a cry from relevance from an increasingly irrelevant new hampshi hampshire-- newspaper. >> and they say that they're creating a nation within nations. what do you make of that, the notion that they're carving out their own countries, if you wil

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equities fall along in suit. and president obama blasted for the plan for isis, saying that carpet bombing is not productive. the first female infantry soldier sworn in. she could be one of the first on the front line. we have her story on varney. more after this.

>> all right, we've got a monday morning rally, 17, 728. to the middle east where the air force is deploying those good old b-52 long range bombers. ashley, they're going after isis in iraq and syria. ashley: the first time we've used these since the gulf war. 25 years.

and what they can do, they can loiter around the battlefield for nearly 12 hours, they have, as they say in the business, long legs. they can get out there and they will replace the b-1's for now and their intent clear. the air force leaders have been calling for the b-52's for quite some time and they'll set up a base in qatar and deployed from there, destined for isis. charles: i love b-52's. i was in the air force and i love b-52's, they're good for carpet bombing. president obama took a shot at ted cruz while answering about terrorism. >> when i hear some candidates saying that we should carpet bomb innocent civilians, that's not a productive approach to defeating terrorism. when i hear people say we should ban all muslims from entering the country, that's not a good approach to defeating terrorism. our approach has to be smart.

charles: joinings now, eric rudol rudolphson, obviously he's calling ted cruz out there. >> that's right, the president has only mentioned donald trump, but in the last month or so he started name checking cruz as well which i guess he sees the writing on the wall that cruz and trump have a shot at republican nomination, he's got to name check them both. on the policy side, and saying that they're looking at russia, something akin to carpet bombing in alepaleppo. is this something that has to be articulated better by someone like a ted cruz, there's no way to beat these gu guys. >> cruz has to be careful, he doesn't meanest mea

mean escalating, you can drop bombs on them and destroy the communications and infrastructure with minimum civilian casualties. this is war, if we're going to pick and choose who we're going to shoot or not, it's going to be a slow process as isis continues to gain momentum. charles: i think last week isis stopped letting christians leave raqqa, showing they would be used as human shields. and we can't kill the command and control centers, we can't kill them. and quickly over the weekend credit credited-- ted cruz did well over the weekend. and the g.o.p., we did it, #nevertrump. is that blatantly showing that the establishment will do anything to stop donald trump from getting this nomination? >> well, i think there are a lot of republicans, i mean, the exit polls out of wisconsin showed that a third of republicans would never vote

for trump. so it's definitely a-- >> when the party itself is tweeting that kind of stuff out. >> i think that the party needs to stay neutral. i don't know who is in charge of their twitter account, but to trump's complaints about the colorado process and louisiana process and what not, these have been the rules for 156 years and colorado rules for this year were stated about eight months ago, it's not like he didn't know going into the process how the delegates it would be selected yet theirs were giving the wrong names to vote for. >> and what do you say to the individual who is out there, i don't know about the nuances and knitty gritty of this stuff, but i've always believed that america was a democracy, i went up to vote and my vote counted. what they're learning is perhaps that's not true, their vote does not count, it's about insiders picking who is the ultimate nominee? >> you know, it's never been true, we're a representative democracy, the congress or founding fathers made sure we

had an electoral college no direct vote for president. the parties pick their nominees. charles: you're agreeing that people go out and the vote doesn't count. for the most part, the average person is wasting their vote because it doesn't count. >> on the first vote in their state. but after that the delegates are on their own, that's why trump needs an overwhelming show of support in the primaries and he's not getting it. that's on trump not the voters. >> i have seen pennsylvania and a large percentage of delegates know exactly what they're voting for. eric ericsson, thank you. >> you're welcome. >> a fbi hacker could be posing as your boss attempting to steal your information. we'll tell you how that works. you're late for work.

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>> new this morning, the fbi is issuing a warning about a new e-mail scam targeting businesses. jo ling kent is here with the details. jo? >> this is a big amount of loss for businesses over the past three years. 2.3 billion have been lost in ceo fraud phishing scams. what you should no about it, basically someone impersonnates the ceo, but unlike normal phishing scams, they're trying to get your password or your tax forms. these hackers are learning the behavior of the company and the ceo and trying to impersonate that and to have really direct targeted e-mails, not mass e-mails and it results in a huge amount of loss. it's about 270%. charles: how do they know the person to target if it's not necessarily mass e-mail. how do they know to go after ashley and say, hey, you know, rupert murdoch, ashley, here, i want your home number, can you resend it? [laughter]

>> and your social security number. [laughter] and date of birth and-- >> that's not a shady ask. they're able to figure out who is inside the company and instead of that mass e-mail that's bcc'd you've got that e-mail. charles: you take notice. >> if you look close to the e-mail a lot of times it's similar, in all 50 states, 79 countries and the way to prevent it is to have companies have more two step verification, but even then the hackers are able to get around it and impersonate, it's very simple. charles: and some say that the 13 character long password with a number and a cap and-- >> opening up to e-mail-- >> i don't think i'm right to be -- thanks a lot, jo. >> 2.3 billion and companies like mattel hit with it. charles: thanks a lot, appreciate it.

iran tells the u.s. no way they're going to stop their missile program. in fact, it's not up for negotiations. we've got more on that coming up. plus, the first female infantry recruit sworn in in the military, could be one of the first women to fight on the front lines. don't forget my show, making money with charles payne, 6 p.m. eastern. a new york congressman is going to give us his take on the big primary in new york state. more varney after this.

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>> checking on the big board. a nice strong start. more on that coming up. joining us right now is steve moore. steve, first to you.

there is no and insight. do you agree with that? it is looking pretty bleak out there. i do not see a lot of leadership anywhere in the world. the kinds of things that drive people higher. i do agree with that. i think that this is a real crisis time for the economy. we are about the only country, of the major industrial economy that is growing at all. >> 0.1% growth. have these western nations, in particular, just gone so far that they cannot turn them around without some sort of major hiccup. are they afraid that their populations will not accept that?

europe just cannot get out of this crisis that has been going on. they do these welfare rights. i think that it is really important. look at the times where the global economy has really grown. it was u.s. and economic leadership that led the rest of the world out of crisis. >> not even open to negotiations. are they right and what can we do about it? >> over and over again, they have shown that they are willing to just barely live up to the letter of the law when it comes to this deal. they are unwilling to abide by it in spirit.

violations over and over again. >> a better deal than we did. they got a better deal. >> this is especially worries some. considered one of the more moderate people in the iranian administration. use relatively moderate language up until this point. >> u.s. navy officer. charge with espionage. china, taiwan. what do you make of this? i know espionage never goes away. the mac it does. a member of our armed forces. naturalized later in life.

it is especially worrisome that we have this person with a lot of interface. a lot of interface with people that are vetting him. why did he then turned towards the member of the united states? >> this is crucial. cia or john brennan saying he would not waterboard and again even if he was ordered to do so by another president. turning down her direct inc. and order to the president. >> obviously, that is not a good day. he has been especially burned on this thing. congress has been arguing about whether or not waterboarding constitutes torture or not. i would also point people here to the really important point. we should not be taking options off the table.

what worries me is the administration to over and over again explained what they are not going to do before they really have the option to take action or not. the no troops on the ground. that is a worrisome pattern to me. >> tammy barnett. she is the first female. what do you make of that? a lot of resistance. there is the part of not just the women's unit, but they are capable. >> i could not agree more. congratulations to her. she is exactly the kind of woman i think that we want. sort of setting up other women to emulate. she is qualified. she has the training. she has the experience. really all we can do is stand

back and cheer her on at this point. i am very much in favor of this. the mac giving a glimpse into what they say will be a donald trump presidency. steve, here they have a chart showing the dow off. a trade warped. a long trade war. what do you think that the outcome will be? >> most newspapers, they put it on the editorial page not on the front page. i do think that there is a real danger of a trade warped. i will say this, it is a little hypocritical. this is just the boston globe. one thing that i like about trump is that the media hates them so much.

you want to talk about what would cause a global recession. what about hillary clinton raising the capital gains tax to 50%? what about the trillions of dollars of new spending? the liberals never want to talk about those types of things. >> we do not have to be hypothetical. we can look at these cities and states. there is one really alarming report out. i have to talk to you about this. $63,000 in their retirement savings. obviously, that is not a lot. how do we get there? how do we fix it or should mark this is why americans are so financially stressed out right now geared they are living paycheck to paycheck. look at the amount of money that

people have in their savings accounts. it is really small. it is a real dangerous sign for the economy. the other thing i feel very strongly about, why don't we start allowing young people to put their payroll tax money. they own themselves. the social security system is the biggest ripoff to millennial's. >> i love the idea. >> i would just say that is is borderline millennial. how do you expect young people to save thousands of dollars by the time they retire. >> borderline millennial. >> we have the sector report. nicole petallides.

>> watching really closely. the date is quickly approaching. what we are seeing, 40 names have now pop up. the latest is rich in the daily mail. in the meantime, yahoo! stock up 1.6%. time, verizon, blackstone. we will see what happens here. melissa meyer. how is yahoo! doing? today, a winner. up 1.6. >> what kind of premium could they get now. appreciate it. donald trump criticizing. stealing delegates from him. he is ready for a fight. more on that after the break.

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>> check out the shares of coca-cola. near the highs. the second one in a row. amazing. the home state of new york. john kasich has been all over the empire state. joining us in upstate new york. more and more people. >> something like 4000 people at that rally. private catholic prep school.

doing a town hall meeting here in the gym. as you can see, standing in front of the trophy case. he will continue with the strategies. enough delegates. the nine donald trump the nomination. he would win later ballots. picking off some delegates in upstate new york. because of the way that the primary here is structured. it is congressional district. take a look at the latest poll. trump statewide. 54%. ted cruz at 15. getting all the delegates.

anything less, it is kind of proportional. >> hangs a lot. peter barnes, appreciate it. >> denying him delegates. a former new york republican governor. world tape. >> i have been a delegate to four conventions. no. it is rigged. however, it is the way it has been. this is about the republican party picking a candidate. >> interesting to hear the admission. it has always beenrigged. these are the rules. >> don't you feel we should have

so much faith in our party? is it the power of the people or the power of the delegates? it shows in the way the system has been set up. for these presidential candidates, it is being able to win both. colorado is such an odd situation, charles. these individuals have to go through a series of caucuses. did you go to the state convention. i had a dear friend of mine who worked in politics for years. lived in colorado. i spoke with him briefly. he said that he could not go to any of them. he had a sick daughter. guess what, it is rigged by these party leaders. they have to keep it small, keep it tight. that is how they decided to move on in colorado.

neil: it has been this way for a long time. if you are running for president, you know what the game is. i want the republican party nomination. you are essentially saying i will play by the rules. >> here is the deal. it is a two-part campaign that they are running. it is about winning the primaries. winning the caucuses. the second part is the delegates. being able to make sure that you can secure the delegates. many who are state leaders who really want to take control of who the nominee will be. that is where trump has had a very difficult time winning over these grassroots ties that have been loyal to the party. it is a big challenge. he will have to make that transition of saying i have two windows delegates.

on the other side, cruz is incredibly organized. in colorado, for instance, he was there a year ago. that is where cruz has been a very smart political strategist when it comes to this process. >> i read a survey of about 110 of the 160 delegates in pennsylvania. half of them have hardy made up their mind. that is scary stuff. >> that is incredibly scary stuff. we have to look at the modern day. these states will continue to push forward. the party leaders are the one in charge. maybe duke closed primaries as opposed to open primaries. more people are included in the process. have their voices heard of who they want as their nominee. as their candidate for the

party. ashley: i think this could lead to to gop parties. maybe even three. >> i hope not. hillary, well, she has not jeopardized national security with her e-mails. take a listen. >> i continue to believe that she has not jeopardized america's national security. what i i've also said, and she has acknowledged, there is a carelessness in terms of managing e-mails that she has and she recognizes. >> the former secretary of state did not intentionally put america in any kind of jeopardy. using that for e-mails. preventing it from going public.

not prosecuting. not filing a criminal indictment . >> not an excuse. >> do not intentionally put america in any kind of jeopardy. taking a huge shot at donald trump. what the news would look like. not very flattering stuff. katrina pierson and howard kurtz on the latest trump take down by the mainstream media. ♪ understands the life behind it. those who have served our nation. have earned the very best service in return.

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>> it is what it is. my mom was an alternative delegate. this has been the way that the game has been played for a long time. frankly, it is not easy. >> it has been around for 150-60 years. people were only allowed to start voting in that century.

a deeply troubling vision for america. we want anyone who is going into the voting booth to know what they are getting with that vote. >> those were just a few of the highlights. here are some of the other stories we're following in case you missed it. >> their night teen foot boat capsized in a remote part of the pacific. they spent three days stranded on the island. flying by waving their life jackets. they were returned safely home. fourth time is the charm for spacex. finally landed their falcon nine rocket. this coal plant demolished. we want to bring that to you. it is amazing video. a huge implosion.

duke energy has plans to demolish two more coal plants in 2016. jordan spieth at the masters. quadruple bogey. the expected start of the show. sending so many humorous tweet. i will be a will to say, i shared it back. enjoying some booze. hearing what is said about jordan spieth. the front page. donald trump. all of that. muchmore. three minutes away. ♪

steve the third hour of varney. leading with the markets. paying off the gates strong. keeping a close eye on that. the price of oil up above 40. still, above the $20. rightnow 4804. what is happening right now? >> we are in earnings season. ugly earnings season. some of this is going to be singular. we know that the banking there would not be so great. translating it calm. one hundred dirty-40 points. >> the good news are these blue

chips. >> consumers putting some extra spending money into consumer related good. another high for coca-cola. there are others doing very well. tyson foods. domino's pizza. they believe that the u.s. consumer has the extra money to spend. >> great american companies. they are pretty good investments. high fructose corn syrup. [laughter] sailmaker josh fox. take a listen to this. >> what can i as an individual do to stop the biggest most powerful industry on the face of the earth. everything that i love and everything that i know.

>> as an individual, not very much. fracking, at the visit him and democracy is a team sport. we will stop the biggest industry on the face of the earth. we will do it in spite of everyone saying it is impossible. ashley: that man is no stranger to "varney & company." he got into a pretty good with stuart varney last year. remember this? >> you are absolutely wrong. >> i do believe that you are lying right now. >> the interview is over. >> i am not lying. >> in your own neighborhood. >> we know that fracking is a huge issue.

stopping thousands of americans. go with him. >> go ahead. >> a big group work. there is no direct correlation between fracking and the contamination of drinking water. >> a five marks study. that is significant. >> here is the land. here is the water table. going so far beneath it. the energy independence. no money gone to terrorists. how could these guys denies six-figure income jobs? >> the reason stuart got angry is he is falsely accused. you are bright.

your formation could be why there is seepage of methane into water supplies. a mixed picture right there. it is not lack in white. ashley: to politics. how the world would look under donald trump as president. here is what the editor kathleen kingsbury had to say me in the last half-hour. >> to lead to your fax. >> this is an act of political satire. try to have a little bit of fun with it. in reality, this is also a very deeply troubling vision for america. we want anyone who is going into the voting booth and selecting donald trump to know what they are getting with that vote.

>> they took the political i sense. >> it is their bright, i guess to do this. it seems like we have gone too far. >> yes, it is the opinion section of the boston globe. this just goes way too far, in my view. perhaps not completely sober, shall we say. it gave donald trump the perfect opportunity to denounce the boston globe. >> i agree with you 1000% there. you know, when i asked about the idea of maybe even trying to have a counter there, something to offset all of this, we have done that in the past.

i feel like it is some kind of warning. it is going to happen no matter what. >> intent to get attention. donald trump is a bad candidate and will be a terrible president. there is something about this that brings to mind the daily news of new york. i could go through the whole list. there is something about trumps candidacy that has a mainstream media unhinged. screaming and shout that this guy's a threat to western civilized nation. he robbed massachusetts. 49%. >> that is true. desperation by the mainstream media. lack of significance in swaying voters. donald trump was 70 million twitter followers.

this is not just an anti-trump movement. a last ditch effort to keep the relevance as their importance there. >> that is a good point. the washington post editorial board. a 100 minute. for the "new york times." taking these seriously. i think that that is a good thing. it is not just a cry for attention. this is the cool thing to do and are in media circles. we will make up a whole phrase. and then this war. that was happen. ashley: are right. take you very much. now let's bring in katrina. first, let me ask you about the boston globe covers. donald kohn's reaction to all of this. >> it was interesting.

he obviously was not happy about it. not only display the lack of integrity in journalism today, but more media buys. will we see the parody paper of hillary clinton's policy? no. then they would have to tell america that the headline would read. they are not going to do the exact same thing for hillary clinton. there is something more than just wanting to go after donald trump. he has been able to bypass the media. they will not be able to protect her. >> they will try. no matter what. the has to be one part. absolute scum. do you like that one a little

bit? >> when you are making things up. there is a problem with that. we have seen that throughout the course of this election cycle. i will also say, this is the example. not just the campaign. it is to negate american exceptionalism. >> a more serious topic. winning delegates in virginia. some people wondering why he is complaining right now, katrina

did. >> this is more about exposing the process. mr. trump was aware of the rules. there is an election. this is where the delegates are stolen. some of our delegates names were left off the ballot. when the party is in charge. a lot of these delegates will be elected officials. 3800 people and only a handful of people are selected. you have to pay $2000, if you are selected, to begin with.

>> you guys are lacking in that area. playing catch-up, to a degree. >> prior to the anti-trump movement. once we realized it was in and they would try to pull some dirty tricks, mr. trump old then someone to oversee this process. >> it looks like this will be a long battle. good luck. appreciate it. ashley: poor people at a company event. all right. tough comments. >> you called when resorts in the whole casino as the rationale, the louis foot tall and of the industry. senior projects underway.

basically saying we can cater to all tiers of customers. no one likes to be around poor people. rich people only like to be around rich people. >> i tell you something. you go through the casinos in vegas, and a a lot of middle-class and lower income people there. you do not want to alienate people like that. maybe he needs to be more scripted. >> i am actively involved in the stock. i buy and sell it a lot. those big boys that he is talking about, that makes a difference. i love a story, though. both sides of this. i think he was clumsy with it. both sides coming up. a teacher in newtown, connecticut am arrested after bringing his licensed concealed gone on poverty.

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>> a lot of consumer names breaking out the highs. tyson foods. phillip morris all among them. strong words on waterboarding. the seat i will not do it again. even if ordered by a future president. listen to what ralph peters had to say on this matter earlier. >> john brennan has thrown in his lot with the democratic party. all along. this is aimed specifically at the republicans. flow for the good guys. vote for the democrats. >> reacting to the cia director saying his comments are ridiculous.

there is an unknown cause and effect. does not know if waterboarding is effect it. the jury is out on that. disobeying the commander-in-chief. that is coming into the debate as well. >> endorsing kasich. he said the same thing when donald trump made this. trump backed off a little bit the day after this. ultimately, he wants to make it a part of our game plan. >> he does. waterboarding is incredibly effective. ashley: i think that it is, too. police in connecticut arrested a newtown teacher. it is illegal to carry a gun on school property. bill, you are a very strong supporter of the second amendment. you were very vocal about this.

>> yes, exactly. a lot of parents feel that the legislator in connecticut, i was one of those parents, i went to hartford to testify. ashley: how does that happen, then? people using common sense saying one of two people with gun experience. a licensed handgun. they could have mitigated this damage. >> exactly. ashley: what is wrong with the legislature that they did not hear that? >> they latched onto the tragedy of sandy hook and they use that to advance their anti-gun agenda. some rhinos gave them cover. ashley: it is hard to believe that this continues to happen. if someone had a handgun they are, a good guy or gal was some form of training, they could have helped save lives.

i do not see why that argument does not sway that way. >> i do not know why either. that is part of the reason why i carry myself. a middle school where this teacher was picked up, just a day before, there was a local referenda were all the townspeople came to vote. i part i jeep across the street. when then, voted, came out. next day this incident happened. ashley: what has been the remedy? what will they do for security? you don't want the teachers to carry guns, fine. what have they counter proposed? >> a school resource officer. basically a newtown police officer that patrols and hangs out at the school. those officers are armed. legally allowed to do so. there are some retired police

officers that are part of the team. whether they are armed or not is not exactly clear. >> a couple of licensed people here. it would be nice to have them as a backup. >> it is kind of a brick wall. >> this issue spurs you on. now you are running for office. >> i am. a very conservative candidate. >> banks a lot. appreciate it. >> thank you. we have mike richter. he is no stranger to being under pressure. we have to ask him about jordan speaks meltdown. black lives matter. we will post a question. should he be sorry?

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racing for a lot of cuts in the credit lines. a big percentage now. pulling out of two states because of the cost of obamacare. i am hearing more and more with these large healthcare insurance companies doing very well and then all of a sudden, they are not. >> this year they expect to lose $500 million. obamacare. their loss of profits. their loss of steam. exiting arcus -- arkansas and georgia. they are getting out because they cannot make enough money. that is exactly what is going on. >> u.s. taxpayers feeling the profits. that is the glory.

>> this was a backstop the federal government. that is not happening now. think about united healthcare. the biggest health insurer. they cannot make money in this market place. i spoke with dan analyst today. i expect them to accept more states in the future if they cannot get that kind of hikes and increases that they need to cover theircosts. these companies cannot make money on their exchanges. >> they are giving obama too much credit. >> it looks more and more like that. i truly believe that you are right. look at all the problems we have had with obamacare. it was written for a plea. now we're seeing the results. ashley: thanks a lot.

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charles: let's take a look at oil. make you stronger today and want to bring in jeff flock. bouncing back here. it is interesting because iran now is pumping not a record over 4.5 million barrels, or export. why is oil going up? >> you had a couple other factors from russian oil minister said today they thought russian production would be flat the next year. it is expected to increase but now looks like it's going to be flat. iran or iraq in advance of the delhi meeting this weekend which is expected to set the limits on production. there's continued up to mr. mom. one oil trader today said he thought a potential bull market in oil, and he thinks the bottom

authority in because of the decline in u.s. production we are already in a place where we will see nothing but higher prices going forward. charles: real quick, how much of that, opec drilling and production and pulling back a little bit good >> the value is priced in. a freeze is priced in. i don't know if any reduction in output is priced in. the iran question is still big. they continue to ramp up production. when the last to pull back to you at the big question. charles: jeff flock on the thank you very much. appreciate it. bernie sanders zeroing in on hillary clinton national interest money. he says some and is clearly lacking in terms of her judgment. roll tape. >> a candidate who receives an enormous amount of money for the special-interest come a candidate who voted for the war,

voted for every disastrous trade policy which of course does millions of jobs. maybe her judgment is not quite as high as it should be. charles: joining us now, things seem to be getting heated up on the democratic side. >> yeah, that was a hot interview. sanders is definitely going about my negative than he ever said he would. he said from the beginning he would run a largely positive campaign ended for a long time. the last couple of weeks has changed a little bit. you see the progression where he started but he ran basically as an advocate to make some points come introduce issues into an election comic and a little bit insane, realized he didn't have a policy platform and in the last week he did a sitdown interview at the blade news editorial board that asked them to really dig into these issues he been talking about. outside influence, wall street reform, money and politics. it showed he actually didn't

really have to death on the issue that he should have peers to know is going negative on hillary. >> you may not have the depth in your opinion, but aren't these issues that resonate with the left side of the democratic party? these are things they are upset about. he has one -- what is the comment eight out of nine or something like that the last few primaries he is killing it. >> the issues outside money and politics resonate with all americans. not just democrats. he's really honed in on something on the right as well with the unexpected rise of trump. he puts these ideas out there, but then you need something to back them up if you are going to be a serious candidate for president. he's been in the senate for a long time. he's been in congress for a long time. you have to wonder if we are really going to implement, how are you going to do it if you're going to be leading? that's what it's come down to.

he has successfully inserted issues into the campaign and highlighted them in a way. >> there is a distinction between where he stands and where hillary stands the special-interest money. there's a distinction where they both stand with respect to going to war. there's a distinction where they stand on trade policy. i don't know if he has articulated position is such a site with a track records to prove it. she's wrong. i'm right. she's got a fight this, doesn't she? >> it is still very difficult to see him winning the democratic nomination. we have to be realistic where she's going to be them or the heart of the country is going to be up against in the republican candidate which is likely trump or crews who actually also doesn't differ much on policy. there are differences between the two but they are not huge and not compared to the republican field. >> do you think you'll go to the e-mails, sent my last card, he's

kind of avoided it. >> yeah, i don't think i would be good for him. it would be real desperation as he did. charles: his complements him. he may need that to get them over the hump. more politics. last week though clinton responded to blacklist matter protesters at a campaign rally. roll tape. >> i don't know how you would characterize the gang leaders who got her 10-year-old kids hopped up on crack and send them out into the street to murder other african-american children. maybe you thought they were good citizens. she didn't. she didn't. you are defending people who killed the lights you see matter. tell the truth. charles: a day later bill clinton tried to block those comments back a little bit. roll the tape. the

>> so i think yesterday in philadelphia -- animals want to apologize for her, but i want to use it as an example of the danger threatening our country. i rather vigorsly fendy fe a iealidinal i s taing storf thway e watalkgast an. 've t to stodied in this country. >> i've got to tell you when bill clinton went off at that protest, and i was standing and cheering. i thought it was okay i thought he was 100% right. drug dealers and upset they are taken away and sent to jail. >> well, yeah. he probably went home to hla going to be bernie sanders. i get with the liberals are trying to do. change the subject. they want us to talk about black lives matter. criminal justice reform.

at the end of the day, the reason we have escalated prison is because of liberal policies. they bankrupt the black family. if you are raised in a single head of household is a gun than you are 60% more likely to end up incarcerated. the numbers are disproportion for those that are black, that are in the criminal justice system. when you think about it, and they say it's because of drugs and we need to look at drug policies. when you look at the 40% number come me take out the drug offenders and it drops by only half a percent. charles: here's the thing. can the democratic party have an honest discussion with like constituent about what is wrong? i agree some of the minor offenses are ridiculous and some of the sentencings are ridiculous for someone caught carrying a joint or something like that. the other side is the complete right down.

can democrats have an honest discussion about this about being afraid of losing their vote? >> well, if they had an honest discussion they will lose the black vote. all democrats good. there's no question. took shelter siding with data that show the connection, low education and family. it's democrat policies that believe in moral relativism you don't need to think about the marriage to abortion policies. democrats are ones who assailed the black community. in addition to that when the family's broken the family is broken down, the only place society gets thousands in the classroom and democrats standing in the way of school choice. charles: thank you very much. appreciate it. new york attorney general announced that $5 billion agreement with goldman sachs. another agreement. liz: this is the mortgage settlement. this is cleaning up the 2008 financial crisis.

goldman sachs securitized as saying essentially we agree the quality of the securities really bad. here's the issue. where's the money going to go? some of that went to her stables in new york state and things that have nothing to do with consumer relief. we are talking hundreds of billions of dollars. total. it's crazy. charles: up next, former nhl goalie mike richter, one of the most successful of all time. his take on jordan spieth's masters melt down. right after the break. ♪

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charles: now to sports and everybody's seen this, reconnect, watching it after the masters for almost three years, jordan spieth had a major meltdown. quadruple bogey. he languished a five shot lead and avenged a loss for now former new york rangers mike richter. you won the game in the stanley cup finals if you understand the pressure he was under a mike any of the audience. can you explain it to us? >> is pressure you put on yourself. all great athletes do it. you have to accept that as part of your job and you go through it. all great athletes go through this troubling times. we were going to win and we didn't win. we didn't deliver that you have to come back. he's an amazing player. to put himself in position shows a lot of consistency. charles: when something goes bad

, cascading domino effect. >> were just talking about that. one bad shot can lead to further bad shots. don't forget how young he is. that's what makes great players great. you are going to have those bad shots. he did that through the tournament. that one was a little bit late to have a really big meltdown. kind of a cascading effect. anybody who's played that sport in particular can relate. >> is the mental aspect more so than any other sport. he led for two years. he said all kinds of records. you think he'll get better for this? we've seen meltdowns like this from golfers in the past that i forgot their names now. >> very good point. you don't get through life come you don't play the game of golf without having a mild sound purchase get your backside handed to you sometime. we didn't make the playoffs in

93. who won the stanley cup and 94. you will go through adversity. >> 23 are sold, everyone has to tip your hat. >> yet a great interview and is a gracious guy. charles: want to talk about your charity and the events for your involvement. >> this is an easy one. i was asked to represent the great challenge and really what you are doing is not a single day like a marathon, but this is across the month of june. registrations are now. whether you're on a bike outsider and a spinning class inside, the miles you produce to get sponsored. hopefully you have some rich uncles. you don't even have to sweat. you actually can do that. there's a free app. the point is use the social media to have the competition and the pride of doing a great game. all the money goes to the

children's cancer research fund which is a big deal. last or $1.7 million raised, this you're trying to do 2.2. 1.4 million miles cumulatively. hope to double that this year. something that was a little less cool. hillary clinton trying to get through the turnstile. with the media too tough on her? >> either very good perspective on this because i lived in new york on and off basically my whole adult life. i don't know if there's a worst turnstile. on my killer i get that in the grain every time. wages have been. looking at it and keep doing it. new yorkers are pretty patient. they really enjoyed that when they're running to work. in a way it was a perfect new york moment. charles: before i let you go, feels like it doesn't resonate the way it did.

the golden ages forces over were just sort of a reset? these guys make so much money and a lot of people still not in touch. >> it is difficult because it almost seems like a different class all of a sudden. i am a fan. i look at it, but i also see the guys in the locker room. i know this guys and their great human beings for the most part. in the end, the players play for the same reason the fans watch it. they love the game and you can play this game unless you have some sort of work ethic. charles: cia chief john brennan says he won't water board terrorists even if these ordered by the president. we'll find out what judge andrew napolitano had to say about that. you both have a

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to do it. i think what john brennan is talking about is either it's in effect that it doesn't work which would contradict other things he said in the past about it. or we have signed treaties that prohibit this behavior and even if the president authorizes it, even if the president immunizes the people who do it, they can still be prosecuted in other countries for having done it. he may very well be thinking one or two steps ahead. charles: that's the scenario president trump comes in and says they don't care about these treaties. the only way to make america great again is to ignore them or trash them. >> under the constitution, treaties are the supreme law of the land. treaties are up there with the constitution and the hierarchy of laws that have to be obeyed. where does waterboarding take place? in other countries. signatories to this treaty virtually all civilized countries there's the tories to

the convention could easily arrest and prosecute americans for doing it in their countries. that's probably what he was talking about. charles: the headline we talked about, "the boston globe" wanted their article -- one of the article said soldiers refused to kill spaces family. is that along the same line? >> first of all, this is absolutely -- >> donald trump has said he would go after the families. >> killing -- the intentional killing of noncombatants no matter their blood are familiar relationships to combatants is a war crime which would expose the soldiers to prosecutions in the countries in which it took place. donald trump would get a different cia directo the esti is ether no dictoroulday no.

it is unlawful to obey an unlawful order. >> donald trump another topic saying they are corrupt, crooked and basically your vote doesn't count. >> i heard one of trump's vote with the outcome of the elections in colorado. there was no election in colorado. an election is what happens in november when the government runs it. charles: you said caucus and primary sent the election. >> correct. the private procedures and mac did by a private organization of the republican party. it is elected by the rank-and-file. they can make it a rule they want. it doesn't have to be a primary. certainly not an election.

>> izvestia pitney a lot of people find out. donald trump said we live in a republic. the republican party like the democratic party write their own rules and if you want to participate you can. >> in 1860, lincoln was fourth at the convention and manipulated his way into being the leading candidate. >> what about the suggestion that everybody's vote counts. >> yes. everybody's vote counts. and the november election, not in his primaries which are inside the private organization or the democratic party and republican party. that's the supreme court. >> a lot of people are angry about that. don't forget tonight my show, making money. tune in at 6:00 p.m. eastern time. talking about money politics and a lot more "varney" next.

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there we were up 150 points. here's the deal. we had a big rebound from the middle of february. looking for direction. you always get it from the man come in neil cavuto, it is yours. >> all this is happening is another big bank and wall street just doesn't -- whatever. it's bizarre. thanks, my friend. the latest. goldman sachs will have to cough up another $5 billion. look at that.because the attorney general would come down harder on the financial terms and in case you're counting, north of $110 billion. some of the biggest pains to fork over since this sort of post-meltdown. not one themselves. let's get things cracking right now with blake burman. >> $5.06 billion is the price tag for goldman sachs. the justice department annoci