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s agenda. well be he's still got one. that's it for us. before we go, two books we would like to recommend. "we the people." >> when mexico sends its people, they are not sending their best. they are bringing drugs and crime. they are rapists. >> donald trump has been rewriting the rule book on politics. and moved to the front of the pack doing it. >> they some would be carried out on a stretcher. >> and people punched back against him as well. could he be the future president? >> i hope he can save my job. i have a hard time imagining that the establishment would actually have the balls to do that.
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>> the country is going to start winning, winning winning. reporter: or would he be a dead end for the republican party. th "donald trump the disruchtor." here is bret baier. bret: a celebrity/mogul who never held office has seized the election cycle. he has done it by taking no prisoners. by saying something no politician has ever said, and in do so he changed the face of american politics and somehowit connected with the public in a way few politicians ever have. we joined his campaign in early march at a time that might have been called "peak trump." he was riding high going from victory to victory. spirits were high, the schedule
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nonstop. though as with any suchs operation, there was a question looming in the background, is his campaign moving ever upwardai or hates topped out? no one can answer that then. but we ran into some surprising incidents along the way. here is john roberts. reporter: march 11, st. louis missouri. donald trump is on stage. >> we are going to start winning again. we are going to win with the military. we are going to win with our veterans. we are going to take care of them. >> he's in his elements delivering what is his version of a stump speech. >> we are going to win with healthcare, were we are going to make mayor today great again, i thank you all.
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>> and he does seem to love them. and they love him back.after reporter: after the speech thefe lovefest continues. his fans surrounding him, then clamoring for an autograph. trump has been eight for months, but this is something he never seems to tire of. meeting his fans face to face appears to even enliven him. here is someone who understands them, talks like them, thinks like them. they don't care that he's not decidedly one of them. it's the trump paradox.p and it's this attraction to his core supporters that has been his biggest strength. his next stop is chicago. to get him there is one of the
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most luxurious jetliners in the world. a 747 nicknamed trump force one. he said switching to air force one would be a step down. the plane can hold up to 43 passengers in oversized first class seats with gold plated seat belts and the trump family crest. there is a bedroom with private shower. syst >> here is a picture of you and your father. roof of the building in 1973. if your father had been told when that picture was taken one day his son would be frontrunner running for president of the united states.he what would he say? >> he would be very proud. that's the first time i had my
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picture on a magazine cover. he wouldn't have believed it actually. it's been an interesting process. i learned so much.t reporter: what have you alreadied about yourself? >> you have to learn how to than pressure.re my life has been a pressure cooker. but political pressure is apo little bit different. it's coming aught very quickly very personal,. reporter: trump cut our interview short when ben carson popped up on that flat screen tv. a former rival, he's now supporting trump. >> why donald trump?p? >> because we have political operatives trying to the results. >> it was a triumphant warning for trump, though there were
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already warning signs. cory lynn do youcorey lewandowski had manhandled a female reporter. as the plane descended into chicago for that evening'sep rally, everything seemed onn track.an no one could know what was in store. it would be the darkest moments the campaign had seen. bret: when we come back we'll show you the outrageous journey of candidate trump from long-shot to frontrunner. and we'll show you exclusive foot and of a near riot on one of trump's campaign stops.
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bret: when donald trump said he was running for president, the pundits had a good laugh. but when they stopped chuckling, guess who was on on top? >> my far it, donald j. trump bret require was an entrance that may have seemed more appropriate for a vegas act than a politician. but last june in trump power tower, donald trump had something to say to america. >> ladies and gentlemen i'mm officially running for president of the united states. and we are going to make our country great again. reporter: the 69-year-old billionaire real estate mogul had never held office. but now he was going for all the marbles.
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one second of his speech got all the attention. >> when mexico send it people. they are not sending their best. they are bringing drugs, they are bringing crime, they are rapists and some i assume are good people. bret: this is not how candidate normally spoke. pundits announced his campaign dead on arrival. >> how should republicans handle donald trump? >> ignore him. he's not going to win the nomination. >> when he said mexico was sending their worst drug dealers and rape its and some may be okay, and i turned to somebody on the step and said we are in trouble. bret: senator graham didn't like what trump was saying but could sense where it was going. >> i knew he would exploit the immigration issue which would
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mean we are going down the wrong road with it comes to figuring this problem as a party. >> i will build a great, great wall on our southern border and i will have mexico pay for that wall, mark my word. bret: the line become fodder for countless punch lines. what about the economy? build a giant wall. bret: yet his tough talk struck a chord and his concerns seemed validated when on july 1 in the sanctuary city of san francisco. 32-year-old kate steinle was shot dead by an illegal immigrant and repeat felon who had been deported five times. by mid july trump shot to the top of a crowded republican field.
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his free-wheeling style got the lion's share of media attention. for instance, no one make fun of a war hero except donald trump talking about john mccain. >> he's not a war hero. he's a war hero base was captured. i like people who weren't captured. i like to tell you that. bret were once again the pundits counted the him out. >> he won't be a viable candidate. you can't say the kind of things you can without crashing and burning. bret: instead his polling improved. what would make other candidates radio active only seemed to make tim stronger. there was the comment he made in "rolling stone" magazine about carly fiorina. he said quote look at that face. would anyone vote for that? he even mocked a reporter's disability. >> you ought to see this guy. i don't know what i said.
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i don't remember. i don't remember. maybe that's what i said. bret: but trump's position atop the polls remains firm. >> they say i have the most loyal people. i could stand in front of fifth avenue and shoot somebody and i wouldn't lose any voters. it's incredible. bret: he was still taking political stances many considered extreme. he said he support sad data basese and surveillance for muslims in the u.s. >> yes, we have to look at mosques and see what'sas happening. >> the first amendment protects religious liberty. bret: but the news seemed to go his way. >> we are getting word from the fire department in the city of san bernardino that some people
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having been shot in a mass shooting. bret: on december 2 there was a terrorist attack by a muslim couple in san bernardino california that killed 14 and injured 22. by year's end trump had a21 21-point lead in the polls. but 2016 would truly test his candidacy. so far it had been all talk. but now it was the voter's turn to have their say. after a misstep in iowa where he lost to ted cruz ... >> we finished second. i'm honored and i want to congratulate ted. bret: trump recovered, taking three states in a row, new hampshire, south carolina and nevada.st >> if you listen to the pundits we weren't expected to win too much. then we are winning winning, out of winning. bret: on super tuesday he took 7
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out of 11 states. now trump was the unquestioned frontrunner. the dwindling field turned their sights on him. but were they too late? he seemed to be the only candidate with a clear path to victory. the campaign would go on perhaps to the bitter end. but one thing had changed. no one would mock trump's chances again. donald trump didn't express himself like other politicians. but what mattered most was he seemed to be expressing the feelings of a lot of other americans. but we'll talk to some of them next.
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bret: it's safe to say donald trump came as a surprise to the political and media class, partly because he seized upon issues that mattered deeply to many americans but weren't part of the conversation among the establishment. one such issue, trade. from the start of his campaign donald trump's economic populism made him a favorites among white, working class voters. then once again it seemed that he anticipated the news cycled when this cell phone video went viral last february. >> the best way to say competitive and protect business long term toys move production from our facility in indianapolis to monterey * mexico.
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bret: it shooked moment when 1,400 workers at carrierianapolis to air-conditioned were told their jobs were moving to mexico. mark reynolds who worked at carrier for 24 years was there when management made the announcement. i want to be clear. this is strictly a business decision.ome people [boos] >> some people were hollering and raising cane. you heard one guy say f you. bret: dave has worked at carrier for 30 years. >> my friend came in and she was crying. it devastated her. >> i was just basically numb. i didn't know what the hell to
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think. brett * just days later during the cbs news gop debate donald trump was the only candidate to speak about the mass layoff. >> these 1,400 people were laid off. it was a sat sad situation. i'm going to get consensus from congress and we'll tax you when those air-conditioners come. stay where you are or build in the united states. bret: that talk conflict with decades of thinking by the republican establishment. >> i thought hell yeah it's time for someone to say something. bret: though mark is a democrat and a union worker, this time he's supporting trump. >> it needs to get changed. nothing gets done that benefits the american people. it benefits somebody else. >> this election is important to
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everybody. not just me, but to everybody. we have got to start doing something. >> if we let everybody go to mexico we won't have any jobs for our grand children. >> they got fed up with th government letting things like this happen. >> i appreciate any candidatee who will do more to keep jobs in america. >> >> i hope he can save my job and everybody else's job who's in the same situation. bret: another example fills niagara ceramics in buffalo, new york that closed in 2013. >> it was impossible to compete with the foreign market. asia in particular. reporter: joe bronco was the vice president. >> it was difficult to manufacture a product in the u.s.a. and dollars per piece
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more than you could bite or land it at a port on either coa bret: today the old warehousewa feels almost haunted, not by ghosts, but by memories of when the factory employed more than 400 skilled workers. >> it was so unexpected. they told us we were going to have a two-week shutdown. at the end of the two weeks weon got a phone call saying do not return. >> we held on as long as we could some day operational and we couldn't hold on. it was one of the saddest points in my life to be honest with you. we had hundreds of families suddenly without work. reporter: bronco was down, but not out. he's opened a new ceramics facility in rochester, new york called north star.
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much smaller but growing. he hired back some of his original employees. bret: bronco may be management but he agree with the employees we saw earlier. >> donald trump made it very clear that we made some bad trade deals and they arere affecting businesses like me today. we are definitely not working on a level playing field. bret: he believes trump has the no-how to make the economy expand. >> the fact that trump is a businessman is playing a huge factor in my support of him. he understands to be where i am in a much larger scale. bret: at what point did you decide to support trump? >> i started out as a jeb bush an supporter.
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when all the dust settled andgh jeb bush's campaign never caught fire, i looked at who was stillco standing than was donald trump. chris collins was personally involved in securing funding that kept niagara ceramics afloat for years. we were thinking as an entrepreneurial smaller companyy we could compete with the chinese. by the was unrelenting. >> that first-hand experience ist one reason he became the first sitting member of congress to endorse trim and is now one of his official emissaries to capitol hill. >> people get behind a winner which is mr. trump. bret: do you think he will bring new voters in? >> he will bring in the working blue collar vote. many of those living in mymy district in western new york. bret: you are saying he speaks t the language of the blue collar
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middle class workers. >> he speaks to getting the jobs back that were stolen by china and mexico. devastated new york state, much of what we call the rust belt. and a lot of folks say when is enough enough? that's the language donald trump is speaking. bret: with his views on trade donald trump blasted wide open a phone line in republican andde american politics. it may not be surprising that the frustrations and even anger of the working man have played such a large role in this election cycle.n but how is it this celebrity billionaire of all candidates came to be the one who tapped into those if you areful currents? that's next.
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bret: no matter what the outcome, historians will some day write about donald trump's rise to president. there was a whole lifetime's worth leading up to it. martha: donald trump was born june 14, 1946 in queens, new york. his father was a building contractor. young donald grew up around construction workers and he had a rebellious streak. >> his parent sent him off to a military school to get more discipline. >> a lot of type a in the trump family. reporter: eric trump is donald's 32-year-old son. >> my father said it's the best
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thing that ever happened to him. martha: i also spoke to theer: i 38-year-old donald jr. >> it was a great way to get him on the right track and focus and i think i see that discipline today in the way he carries his business dealing. in 1971 he was given full control of the company which he renamed the trump organize. but trump wasn't your average real estate developer. he had a taste for the spotlight and became a celebrity regularly seen on the town with a beautiful woman on his arm. in 1977 he married ivana, a fashion model from checks rock d from checks mod. he published "the art of the deal."
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he became a national figure. you never knew where he would show up next. >> excuse me, where is the lobby in. >> down the hall and to the left. martha: become then a gop activist saw political promise in the billionaire. >> that's why i started a draft trump campaign. martha: in 1987 in new hampshire, donald trump made his first campaign speech. speaking without notes, he hit on some of the same economic idea that made him the frontrunner today.f reporter: the mess and in 1987 didn't change, just the players. then it was japan and saudi arabia and today it's china and mexico. people who work for a living are the ones feeling it. so trump appeals to us.
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martha: after the speech they left the restaurant and moved trump to a nearby press conference. >> i had 0 get him to a side door. as we moved along he kept stopping shaking hand with the wait staff, the firemen, it was the common man that attracted donald trump that he reached out to. and i think that's what's happening today. he's still reaping out to us, not to the guys in the suits. martha: he didn't run back then, but the seed had been planted. >> the tag will be the mosting. spectacular building built inn this country. martha: his businesses had ups and down, and so did his love life in the 1990s. he and ivana had a very public
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divorce in 191. he then married actress marla maples in 1983. and divorced her in '99. in 2004 his profile rose as never before when he became the star of nbc's hit show "the apprentice." >> you are fired! martha: and he married his present wife in 2005. but trump never stopped thinking about politic. as he entered his 60s, if he was serious about a run, he could no longer play the waiting game. ask the president and ceo of thehe polling company to do some research to see where he would stand in the 2012 race. >> what was missing from the field for many republican voters in 2011 was somebody who was not a typical politician.
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somebody who would be an outsider to the system in washington, but also somebody who was not completely unfamiliar to them. reporter: his role on the "apprentice" made him appealing to many voters. >> it was an anti-political leadership role and they tuned in every tweak see what he would say. martha: 2012 wasn't his year. instead he endorsed mitt romney. another businessman who sold himself as someone who could get things done. but when romney lost. it was now or never for trump. he started connecting with media outlets and gave speeches at cpac. >> i'm not doing this for fun. i'm doing it because we have to take our country back. martha: there were two people
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who knew he was serious. for a while people didn't take your dad's presidential aspirations seriously. >> i could see he was getting frustrated. martha: when he spent time at cpac and getting himself deeper into the circles of conservatism and the republican party, did hehe get the sense he could outsmart the way the operation works? >> i don't think it's about outsmarting the operation. he just by passed that and went directly to the people. martha: one of the people he met at that time was newt gingrich. >> he asked good questions aboutw what does it take physically. how much does it cost, how do you balance yourself.r i said how much will it cost from virginia to south carolina.
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and i said $70 million. he said the cost of a yacht. i think this will be more interesting than a yacht. martha: the rest of the candidates may not have been ready for him, but the public was. >> it's a movement. people feel like they have that voice again.ey reporter: when we last saw donald trump on the campaign trail he was on his way to a rally flying thousands of feet above the ground, by the wasn't until he landed that he hit real turbulence.
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bret: chicago is known as the windy city, so maybe it shouldn't be a big surprise that this is where donald trump's' campaign ran into a real cyclone. once again, john roberts. john: when we left donald trump on the campaign trail he just land in chicago for another big rally. little did he know, he was heading into a buzz saw. the quality in candidate trump that inspires such enthusiasm among his supporters also stirred hostility in equal measure. especially in chicago activist bill ayers. >> trump is dangerous and
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anti-american and he has to be opposed. john: in chicago trump protesters were so well organized and so determined to disrupt, trump did something unique for him. he canceled the event. >> tonight's rally will be postponed until another day. thank you very much. [booing] bret: it's not like protests were anything new at a trump rally.
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>> get her out.t out. out. out. l i would like to punch him in the face.. i promise you i will pay for the legal fees. you know what they used to do to guys like that? they would be carried out on aa stretcher. john: but the chicago protesters declared victory and bill ayers promised it was just the beginning. what happened that night in chicago followed the controversy involving campaign manager coreyge lewandowski earlier in the week and opened the campaign up to charges that there was an element much violence inherent in donald trump's campaign. reporter: people are concerned somebody might get seriously injured before this is all over.
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>> you have a campaign that affirmatively encourages violence. you create an environment that only encourages this sort of nasty discourse. and it lasted through the weekend. trump's response ... >> hillary was saying donald trump has to stop the rhetoric.s he has to stop it. and my people are great it's these people that are thepeople problem. bret: chicago was a crazy time for the strum candidates i. but he would soon finds out there was more trouble ahead. e*trade is all about seizing opportunity. so i'm going to take this opportunity to go off script. so if i wanna go
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bret: it's been said april is the cruellest month. it seemed that way for donald trump. as march turned into april the trump campaign was still front page news. but heading into the april 5 wisconsin primary, he seemed less and less in control of the message. march 23 trump retweeted a photo of his wife melania next to aole less complimentary photo of ted cruz's wife heidi. march 29, campaign manager corey lewandowski was charged with misdemeanor battery for anor incident where he grabbed a female reporter. >> when you look at the tapem what did lewandowski do?
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bret: in a march 30 town hall meeting trump said women who have abortions should be punished if the procedure was band. >> there has to be some punishment for the woman. brett * they all had the capacity to hurt trump, in particular with female voters. >> i called women you don't like fat pigs, dogs, slobs, and disgusting animals. >> i'm not a fan of megyn kelly, i don't like her. bret: john rob earth asked trump about a potential gender gap among voters. >> i think i'll do great with women. john: people are wondering about your feud with megyn kelly. and you sent out 119 tweets about her and said she was
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crazy. john: why do you keep going down this road?wh >> because she is very nasty to me and doesn't treat me fairly.an i could sit back and take it orr i could let people know. i don't want to talk about.megyn >> mr. trump is facing a different kind of head wind. people are starting to wonder if this guy whose entire narrative is built on winning can actually win in the fall. bret: one test of that proposition came in wisconsin where trump lost by double digits. this time no televised appearance for trump. instead his campaign issued a statement saying lyin' ted cruz was being used by party bosses
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attempting to steal the nomination from mr. trump. was this a turning point in his campaign in to someone like behindy graham trump supporters needed a reality check. >> this idea mr. trump is going to bring in democratic voters to override his collapse among this hispanics and young women is ridiculous.. it will cost us the senate and put the house in jeopardy. almost anybody else wins the election. h bret: but before anything else trump has to win the nomination. and it is looking more and more likely that there will and contested convention. trump supporters fear the republican establishment will conspire to deny him the nomination.sh >> i have a hard time imagining
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the tab establishment would have the balls to do that. but the fact we are talking about it is an indication of how con tell to youous they are of regular -- how contemptuous they are of regular folks. bret: if he does become the nominee. people advise he will have to pivot. not be the man he has been so far. >> the habits that got him here t aren't the habits that will get him in the presidency. he will have to double the base attracting people who are currently suspicious of him. he won't attract them if he continues the twitter slugging it out. >> re-emerging in his home state. trump canceled a california trip in order to keep campaigning in new york where he now needed to win. meanwhile based on my conversation with new york representative chris collins.
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even his supporters might haveav to maintain a certain distance while waiting for a different sort of trump to emerge. bret: you are against mass deportation, you are against banning muslims from entering the country it sounds like even though you are endorsing mr. trump, you are distancing yourself from him in some aspects. >> we can agree at a top level. i don't think i'm that far away from mr. trump. bret: is it realistic to build a wall along the southern borderer? >> there are parts of it we have to do. whether it's a physical wall or rhetorical wall. it starts with immigration reform and make sure the folks who need the workers like the dairy farmers, they have a method with visas to fill those jobs.hat bret: that's different sounding than we are going to build a
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wall and mexico is going to pay for it. bret: the ban on muslims? >> we need to keep america safe.no if we don't know who's coming across the borders, then they cam can't come in but i wouldn't ban muslims from being muslims. bret: you think the nuance will come when he's president? >> i do. it's not practical to deport 12 million people and take them a across the border. once mr. trim is president we can sit down and talk about these things and clarify them. bret: is it fair to say people who support donald trump see in him what they want to see in him? >> they see in him a leader who speaks directly. now let's get the experts together on move. bret: love him or hate him trump has always been his own man. right now there are a lot of considerations pulling him in different directions.
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the question at present is which direction he will choose. is it the one that lead him to the white house or merely back a to a billionaire's life of luxury. it's not easy to talk about donald trump. for one thing, he's such a polarizing figure, that no matter what you say, you are likely to be called some unpleasant names. but there are a few thing we can say about him. he's a true political phenomenon. unlike anything we have seen. a businessman who was able to all but take over a party with his establishment and open war against him. second, that he's filled a niche and he's attracted a loyal following that believes hisve country has seriously gone off the rails. third, that while he is popular with his base, polls show him consistently to be the candidate with the highest negatives. what we don't know is whether
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