>> more likely than not. important may for ted cruz and it could probably come down to california. charles: love all the input and per tease. we love you at home watching us. here is lou dobbs. lou: good evening. i'm lou dobbs. republican national committee or its delegate and convention rules. he accused the party conspiring to prevent him from clinching the nomination. >> we had people out there and they weren't heard. today when it was announced that -- the numbers were announced they put something out on twitter saying we stopped trump. that was put out by the party in colorado. lou: his comments elicited a

response from reince priebus. quote, nomination process known for a year and beyond. it's the responsibility of the candidate to understand it. complaints now? give us all a break. randy evans, and charles spieth. trump apparently so confident about his chances in the new york primary he's campaigning in pittsburgh. he's set to hold a rally in pittsburgh within the hour. we'll be bringing you the trump event live when he take the stage. i'll be talking about the presidential race with former reagan white house political director ed rollins and michael goodwin. and we'll be telling you about two russian jets that buzzed one of our navy destroyers in the baltic sea.

those jets came within 30 feet of our ships which is known as on the deck. former cam bass tore to the united nations, john bolton will be joining us in the broadcast. the always intriguing race for the white house.rump accused thy of rigging the system against him. but priebus and trump opponent ted cruz say that's not the case and trump is getting outmanured on the ground. joining us now charles spies. charlie worked with jeb bush's right to rise pac. and worked for mitt romney's

presidential campaign and former law counsel for the republican national committee, and randall evans, a former senior adviser for the newt gingrich presidential campaign in 2012. randy, good to have you with us. you kicked up quite a dust form when you suggested 1,100 that reasonably might put trump within reach of the nomination. you would think the entire backlash came from a convention of attorneys want to go nitpick he element of the sentence you uttered. >> i agree. i just tried to handicap the race as best we could. in georgia we call that spitting distance which i suggested should donald trump get to 1,100 delegates. i thought between 1150 it would be easy to get to the 1,237.

there is such a bandwagon effect that happens when you get that close to the nomination that everybody want to be on the winning team, so i suggested that if it got to 1,1. >1,o -- got to 1,100 he's probably there. lou: do you agree? >> i think randy's comments created a question that if you are close to the finish line that's enough. if he were running the boston marathon would say the 24-mile mark you declare a winner. you have to have 1,237 delegates and coming close doesn't count. lou: don't you think people are being disingenuous when they take his remarks in that fashion? there is a period of six weeks between the california primary

and the wrap-up primaries from june to july. you know there will be dealings, bargaining, pull and push and shoving and eye poking going on with the delegates to get where those candidates want to be. >> absolutely. that point is fair. but the problem is the context of the trump forces saying that merely being ahead is enough to be declared the winner. that's not how the rules work. the rules are clear that you have to have a majority of the delegates. lou: randy, do you guys realize how this play the straight into the narrative for donald trump? the big bad rnc, the republican party, the party of the chamber of commerce, the business round table, the money class is squeezing the life out of the body politic in colorado. a million republicans had no

direct participation in those delegates selected. i mean, this is -- >> no, you are dead on. i think charlie illustrated the establishment's point. which is no matter how close you are or how much of a ma joist. no matter how much history is reflected the opposite, we are going to deny that to you. the fact of the matter is in every convention when it got close, when it got to the end. barack obama was head into the convention, he didn't have all he needed. but by the type he got there will be was enough. when ronald reagan won in 1980. when gerald ford won in 1976. it's called the bandwagon effect. people want to be on the winner's bandwagon. i think that's why donald trump

need to get as close to 1,237 as he can. the part of the interview that rarely gets played where i said if neither candidate breaks 1,000 it will be a free-for-all. well, the rules will be no rules because the convention won't have enough coalescing around 1,237 people to adopt rules. we know what the ends of the spectrum are. lou: charlie, you are carrying that mantel of the establishment republican lead. butted the question becomes at what point is there the intelligence and the wisdom in the leadership of the republican party to say if it is indeed donald trump at 1,100 votes, that this business of eating

your young, which is what these he athletes and donor class have been funding for months. and going after trump. but it's just a strange spectacle, and i just wonder if there is a sense among the party elite that this is an assistantn extant threat to the party itself. i want to ask you about the future of the party which requires speculation and some conjuring. >> we are talking about colorado where the rules were laid out a year ago, and the fact that the trump folks weren't either smart enough to learn the rules. lou: last august they made significant changes. but your point is, everybody knew what the rules were. >> this was about delegates, and

people at the state conventions. actual registered republicans voting in colorado. there was no party elite stealing everything. > lou: there weren't a million republicans voting on anything. >> it was a caucus. lou: you want to ask me what i think of iowa and all these caucuses and archaic systems? we understand why you do it. >> you are literally saying the american people equate these archaic rules like colorado with what they see going on in washington. every time they turn around in washu washington nothing gets done because of some archaic rule, and the bottom line is

that which is reflective of what the people want seems to never matter. what matters is we have this particular procedural role, that's the hurdle and that's what donald trump cities trying to take on, and he's using it well to shift the message away from the things he does. >> if donald trump and his team are smart enough to figure out the rules of a colorado election, how are they going to defeat isis or vladimir putin? >> the same way you build an $8 million building. lou: if the republican party is willing to dis10 franchise one million republicans in coloradoe when you temperature control the white house and the house and the senate? i am going have to leave it here. i appreciate you coming in to

talk about this. there is some awful aggravated folks. we call them voters and citizens. and the idea that folks with a couple billion dollars in their hip park the are going to make the rules without consequence, i think those days are done. charlie spies, and randy evans, thank you so much. donald trump in a battle with the rnc and it's else today lating. >> the rnc, the republican national committee, they should be asmaimed of themselves for allowing this kinds of crap to happen. lou: whatever happened to one person, one vote? if one daredevil jumps off a bridge do all his friends follow? you bet. this just got interesting.

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lou: a new poll out of new york shows trump leading with 50%, kasich, 27%. and third, senator cruz, 19%

support. former reagan white house, ed rollins, great to have you here. this is a donnybrook as you just heard, talking with randy evans and charlie spies. this is a battle between the front return and the rnc and some of its biggest contributors. what happens next. how do they make it right? >> somebody wins. trump will gain momentum. he will have a big victory. if he goes above 50% he will pick up a giant set of delegates here. maryland he will win. pennsylvania is coming up. he has a lead there. cruz is still going to chip away

in these delegate battles, and trump is getting better staffers. he had a weak staff to begin with. he will go in close, he may not have the majority, but he will be close. and if he's close he's got an opportunity before the june 7 primaries to wrap these things up. lou: is this the donor class, the wealthy in this country deploying the republican establishment with its tools to provide crumbs to its great unwashed members and voters? >> i think it's more a case federalism in that the states make their own rules are. the rnc ultimately has to approve them. but the rules are different in every state. new york is weird in its phone way. lou: we have big personalities.

we have big stakes. that isn't good enough anymore to say that's the way it is. you have got a million folks in colorado dis10 fran choose is because of the way it's played. who is going to put up with that. >> we have come a long way since the 60s when the primary system developed the wait is now. but trump should have known this coming in. i think when you go back to iowa, he did not have a ground game in iowa. he still doesn't have a ground game and it's hurting him still. lou: what surprises me is trump learns in iowa that a ground game is essential. and doesn't have one today. >> i think he was badly served by the people he hired. the campaign manager was acting

as a security guard is now being pushed aside. lou: the question is where were the security guards. at the end of the day, this is elementary. the rules have not changed. but i don't particularly like them, i don't like the way it works, i don't like the whole primary process. but it's bent same system since the mid-70s. the public is now getting to see it up close. lou: voters haven't paid attention -- >> why should they? at the end of 76 really. the reality is there is a bunch of new people in the game watching this thing and they are getting educated on a daily basis. i'm sitting in an amtrak station in a washington, d.c., they are arguing about delegates. it was just this thing has turned the public on and off. lou: hallelujah.

from the very onset, trump has had an effect. he has turned this primary process into the public arena. it is rough and tumble, it's scalding hot, it's a place -- not a place for sissies. by the way, that goes to him. >> most people haven't voted, they have not paid attention and held their officials' feet to the fire. lou: the monied establishment, the left, it's a system of professors with radically left-wing view, they want this

country to remain stagnant. >> so does john boehner. >> the establishment has ben spent an enormous amount of money in the last 8 weeks, $30 million to $40 million against trump. he's going to have to spend his own money or raise money if he gets to be the nominee. it will be a billion dollar battle and it won't be covered by fox and cnn alone. and she is way ahead on organization. lou: he does seem a bit prudent right now. you look at the organization. any one of these campaigns and trump's. he's showing you how to do it on a light tab. but i want to go back to paul ryan. this guy has been having these

soient-era video d these soviet-era videos created of himself. every camera age is his chin and blethering nonsense and hugging truth and virtue. now he says he's not going to run. >> are you able to recover in the next week or two? >> i was struck with the confusion he created with all of that. lou: he was running for president. >> then why did he stop. lou: somebody told him to. somebody tells him what to do. >> but he does not look like a steady ship in this storm. >> i don't want you to have delusions about the speaker. denny hastert was put in jail. john boehner won't ever be heard from again outside of ohio

unless you go to a testimonial in ohio. it's not a job you want for your career in office. lou: i feel like throwing a benefit for everybody who has been speaker of the house. i'll always refer to you -- but raw ambition wetter in the speaker's office or the majority leader's office, it's an ugly thing to watch. we have to run. we'll be back. whatever he says. appreciate it. ed rollins, michael goodwin. be sure to vote in our poll tonight. is the rnc engineering the biggest voter disenfranchisement in american history? cast your vote on twitter at lou dobbs.

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transparent and open presidencies ever. with nine months remaining in office mr. obama is now weighing a proposal to eliminate the lowest tier of classified government information, the so-called confidential level. the director of national intelligence of james clapper has been -- begun asking intelligence agency leaders for their feedback on the president's sudden interest in simplifying the system and promoting transparency. and why the new found interesting removing confidential as a tier of classification. this is the same president who has set records for his failure and refusal to turn over files when requested by the public for censoring materials or denying access in more than three courts of all freedom of information cases and he doesn't give congress much that they ask for either. his justice department has prosecuted a record number of people in classified leaks

cases. it is far more likely mr. obama with just 281 days left in the white house is trying his best to help his former secretary of state hillary clinton in the midst of her e-mail scandal. more than 2100 e-mails marked classified were found on her private e-mail server including 22 e-mails deems top secret. obama raised eyebrows in his interview on "fox news sunday when he tried to downplay all of those classified e-mails. >> there is classified and there is classified. there is stuff that is really top-secret, top-secret and there is stuff that is being presented to the president or the secretary of state that you might not want on the transom or going out over the wire but it's basically stuff that you can get lou: so basically the president

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campaign manager corey lewandowski will not be prosecuted after a run-in with reporter michelle field last month was working at the time for breitbart. the prosecutor's decision in west palm beach not to press charges will be announced according to "politico" tomorrow afternoon. sources with knowledge of the situation say fields may pursue a defamation case against lewandowski but criminal charges will not be brought there in west palm beach. our next guest has endorsed donald trump and he joins us tonight from washington d.c.. congressman louis barletta a member of the homeland security committee. it is great to have a width is pretty want to get your reaction first of all of the decision of the democratic prosecutor by the way in west palm beach county in florida saying that said, there will be no charges.

>> i think he was clear once the video came out that people have an actual, got to see it first-hand, that it wasn't as she had first reported and it raised some questions as to what really happened. lou: you know what's interesting to me, the number of people who stopped things they are based on the political, what would it be their political goals so many people, i think the prosecutors made exactly the right decision. >> this whole thing reminds me of a videogame or something something keeps popping up every other second here and it's almost like this is all part of this sidetrack this campaign and do everything we can to get the train off the track which hasn't worked with the american people. lou: your candidate has been doing a pretty good job over the course of these past 10 months. he finds more opportunities and says sometimes you would think

this thing is scripted whether he is talking illegal immigration or the u.s. trade deficit. 2015 turns out to have been a record year for the u.s. trade deficit and the man has a gift for anticipating news developments and history itself. >> after you peel back how he brings an issue out, the beautiful part of it is that we begin to debate the issue itself and that's what the american people want. they don't want a scripted candidate that is told what to say, what words to use and how to say it. donald trump says that from his heart and his head and he comes out and we put political correctness aside so we can begin to tackle these tough issues. i think that is what his popularity is about. lou: political correctness if he performs the other service for united states of america kicking the dickens out of political correctness and opening up free expression again in this country

will be a lasting and critically important contribution in my judgment. >> somebody told me today that when donald trump gets elected we will be a will to say merry christmas again without offending somebody. lou: there will be somebody offended or they will be the good new size in this country. it used to be we did worry much about it and we were tough enough to handle a little bit of hurt feelings from time to time. i want to ask you how is he going to do in your home state of pennsylvania and your judgment about his prospects to become the party's nominee? >> you will do great. in fact a record number of democrats have been switching to republican for donald trump in my district alone. it doesn't matter where i go people have told me they haven't voted in 10 years said they are coming out for donald trump, labor folks, democrats and republicans are getting behind trump. he's going to do fantastic in pennsylvania and the energy behind the campaign is something

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lou: president obama today looking to get the up parents at least of the dash the president proclaiming the islamic state is on the offensive, excuse me the defensive following a meeting with his national security advisers at the cia. the president very publicly with his national security team at the cia. this is the third time in recent months he has traveled over there to meet with his national security council visiting the pentagon in december the state department of orion now the cia. joining us former u.s. ambassador to the united nations american enterprise institute senior fellow john bolton and "fox news" contributor. before we turn to the weighty affairs of state and foreign policy, corey lewandowski, donald trump's campaign manager no charges, charges dropped. >> i think this is significant and removes a cloud on the horizon.

it could have been a row problem that lasted two weeks and weeks for trump and so now i think with that gone they focus on the results of the new york primary on tuesday and the other primaries after that so it's unquestionably good news for the trump campaign. lou: others had dropped that narrative in the last couple of weeks. you just weren't hearing it and apparently there was some sign that this is not going to be going ahead. i want to complement the demo that a prosecutor in palm beach county because he did the right things and i know it must have been tough, the pressures he was under. >> i think we have seen with the interviews that have been done with the families of the candidates melania trump, the wife, the daughter ivanka defending their father on this question of his attitude towards women. the two best defenders i think of the record so far and by hiding cruz on the side of the cruz him pain.

i think we are beginning to move into a different phase. lou: what phase are we moving into with vladimir putin in russia? to this jet fighters buzzing right on the deck. can we see that? it's a remarkable video. these two jet fighters, russian fighters buzzing one of our guided missile destroyers in the baltic sea. >> i'm sure president obama will be tempted to apologize for our destroyers getting the way of his airplanes but this is part of a pattern. seeing this right across-the-board russian plane shadowing nato forces near norway and the baltic. i think putin is clearly testing the president. he has watched our reaction. lou: haven't they flunked every test imaginable at this point? putin had as well. >> putin has faced internal

difficulties because of the collapse of the international oil prices and we reduced his ability. lou: the sanctions that president obama will toll as we change the trajectory of history itself. >> with that allow putin to do was put the blame on europe and the united states for the economic setback so i think putin can read the calendar just as well as we can. doesn't know who will win in november but he knows he's got his man obama in the white house until then he asked impressed and see how far he can go. lou: i think it's fair true mind he also has his woman in the chancellery in germany angela merkel who is being very docile and france while holland -- francois hollande and david cameron. none of them are standing up for the stiff spines to outright aggression on the part of putin whether it be crimea or whether it be on the eastern border. >> none of them will without

american leadership. that's the way the alliance works. you can like it or not like it and the sense that we may say the europeans should take more care of themselves but the fact is it's american leadership that is the glue and they have seen the leadership in washington. they're not going to stand out there alone. lou: president xi see snow leadership to reckon with in the island in the jet fighters surface to air defense misletat. >> these steps to militarize the islands that they are building in the south china sea sea all part of the chinese strategy. they don't see any american push back there either. lou: what should we do? >> let's have a far more vigorous freedom of the navigation operation we have to deny the chinese. lou: light them up? we are going to clear the island or we are going to light it up. >> i think we have to have a systematically to put more

pressure on them to get that result. the next eight months -- 8010 months they could face if they don't complete. lou: as they say in texas that horses already left the barn. >> thank you lou. lou: ambassador john bolton good to have you with us. as fearless climber in germany taking all of us a little closer to god with this stunt. the daredevil, there he is risking his life scaling the tallest church in the world with nothing but his camera. intense video showing his 528 foot climb up the ancient steeple balancing on gargoyles for support. the daring climber, well certainly not for the faint of heart. you don't really know if he had anyone's blessing before taking off on this adventure but extraordinary as you concede in a video. up next trumps kids go to bat

for dad saying he has a kinder and gentler side. >> it was the typical let's play catch in the backyard sort of father-son relationship but we always went on job sites with him. we would be in his office. a 6-year-old while these negotiating deals with presidents of major companies so we always made himself available. lou: the family. our preview of the trump general election strategy. we will take it up with pastor robert jeffers here next. stay with us. at's why there's b. it comes in oral rinse, spray or gel, so there's moisturizing relief for everyone. biotene, for people who suffer from a dry mouth. it's how you stay connected. with centurylink as your trusted technology partner, you get an industry leading broadband network and cloud and hosting services. centurylink. your link to what's next.

lou: we have breaking news we want to tend to. a rally and lauren center pittsburgh. as you see one of the protesters grabbed a police officer and pull them back from a yank tim and we are going to keep you posted on what's going on there. as you see police quickly stepping in and these protesters when they put their hands on the cop they are out of their minds. it's absurd. we will let you know what's going on there and if order has been restored there in pittsburgh where donald trump is inside about to give his rally speech. joining us here in new york is dr. robert jeffers a pastor at first baptist church in dallas,

one of the most influential evangelical churches in the country. he's also a "fox news" contributor. great happy with us with us. i want to get your reaction to what we are witnessing there. that's obvious and attempt to simply stop trump. >> absolutely. everybody has a right to protest. nobody has the right to disrupt and keep somebody from exercising their free-speech rights for which his mr. trump and i'm glad the police are intervening. this shows a complete disrespect read our culture has police. we are honoring the entire dallas police department and if that's a blue sunday we are calling it to try to instill respect for the police in our community. i think it's the missing ingredient right now. lou: it is and police are asked every day to risk their lives and their safety and the way in which they're being treated by some people in this country is

disgusting. i want to turn to donald trump if he has a lot of good news. he has polls that are 50%. he's doing well in pittsburgh and we heard congressman louis barletta saying he's going to win pennsylvania. he looks strong in new york and throughout the northeast. what do you see happening here with the man's poll numbers skyrocketing, even his campaign manager charges dropped against him. unspoil some people's narrative. >> cory is a good friend of mine. i have seen cory and these scrubs after a debate or a rally. he has never behaved in a properly. it was a baseless charge. something trump is facing some good news right now. i like mr. trump. i'm very supportive of him and i consider him a friend. i think right now as he goes through this rebirth and a sense

for a couple of rough weeks things are looking good for him. what i'm hoping is that he will intensely concentrate on pointing out history. you no. lou: he is the only outsider left in this race on either side. lou: it's amazing, is it not? he's going up against the establishment. some would call in the traitor to his class. he's a multimillionaire taking on multibillionaires for the middle class small-business people. he has also done something i think is very smart and toning it down a bit as helpful but to have that beautiful family melania come his wife in all of the children. i mean these are family values living and breathing before the cameras and he has got a lot to be proud of. >> and is not a photo op. that's the way it is. you know him and i know him so much. i've been in several situations where it seen them personally relate to his family and relate to melania and his children. after the miami debate he had the mall around.

it cameras were off to the side wanted to interview him. he went around to make sure everybody had a right, express how grateful he was for each one that's a donald trump people need to see. lou: we have about 30 seconds. christian voters, how do you think he's going to do from your? >> he's going to continue to do well because christian voters and evangelicals are not unlike all americans. they're united in their desire to change the status quo which ronald reagan said his latin for -- evangelicals know we are in a mess and many of them believe donald trump is the one that can lead us out of that mess. lou: you know i had forgotten that quote. it's a wonderful one and now that you have analyzed it in my memory and going to use it a lot. i will give you partial credit. pastor robert jeffers great to have you here. our on line poll 93% of you said donald trump would be a shoo-in in november if only the gop

establishment spent half as much time supporting him as they do fighting him. that's it for us tonight. we thank you for being with us. karl rove general jack keane among our guest tomorrow evening. we hope you will be with us. thanks for joining us tonight. good night from new york. kennedy: we made it to wednesday. thank you for your well wishes. accusations fly like cats in the circus jungle from candidates in both parties. they're claiming the system is rigged, man with contested conventions unfair delegates and shady rules all put in place to crown whomever the establishment deems the most worthy. let's start with king donald the contentious love-hate relationship between he and reince priebus is too turbulent for the most salacious and dramatic telenovella riding