tv Lou Dobbs Tonight FOX Business April 22, 2016 11:00pm-12:01am EDT
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thank you for joining us. good night. [cheers and applause] put states into play the past two elections have been democratic states. charles: we'll pick up on monday. >> good evening, everybody, i'm tom sullivan sitting in for lou dobbs tonight. donald trump is promising to moderate his brash approach and act more presidential. >> he's talk business and talking politics, it's a different persona. he's talking about the kinds of things, he's projecting an image that's for that purpose. the party is evolving -- >> brand new polls out show his
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campaign is working just fine the way it is. get this, indiana and california will be key to trump's path but to that magic number of 1237, and according to the fox poll just out this last hour, trump tops cruz by 8 points in indiana. 41-33. and in california, trump beats cruz by 27 points. 49-22. john kasich at 20. on the democratic side, hillary clinton feeling more confident about her chances during a campaign stop in pennsylvania today, she spent more time attacking trump's tone than bernie sanders. >> we've got to change the culture so that it is no longer acceptable for people to say what they say about others. you can disagree with somebody, that's fair game. but to launch personal attacks. to try to intimidate and
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degrade somebody else is off-limits. and we have to be strong about that. >> i'll take all that up with "weekly standard"'s fred barnes and town hall's guy benson as well. tonight, critics blasting the obama administration over reports it will pay iran nearly $9 million for its nuclear material. this news coming just days after the administration could not say whether iran was spending some of its $3 billion of newly unfrozen assets on terrorism. they don't know. former pentagon official k.t. mcfarland will weigh in on that coming up. top story, donald trump pledging to act more presidential. listen to this. >> at some point, i'm going to be so presidential that you people will be so bored, and i'll come back as a presidential person, and instead of 10,000 people, i'll have 150 people, and they'll
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say, boy, he really looks presidential. >> well, part of that shift to more presidential campaign involves giving more policy speeches, and donald trump will deliver a foreign policy address wednesday to the national press club in washington. but ted cruz argues that trump is shifting positions to attract the republican establishment. >> he doesn't believe anything he's saying, he's just trying to fool gullible voters and not going to do any of it. he's not going to build a wall. he's not going to deport anyone. he is telling us he is lying to us. >> cruz's attacks haven't been working. five northeastern states vote on tuesday and the "real clear politics poll"ing averages show that donald trump has a substantial lead in each of those. on the democratic side, bernie sanders admitting it will be hard for him to secure the democratic nomination after his big loss in new york. >> not realistic.
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it's a hard path, i admit that. given the fact we've won some 17 states, it is a possibility. >> but hillary clinton, far from a teflon candidate, an associated press review finding that at least 60, 60 companies have paid the former secretary of state to speak also lobbied the federal government or sought lucrative contracts. that's something that obviously could create a conflict of interest if clinton makes it to the white house. clinton is refusing to release the transcripts of her paid speeches until other candidates do the same. president obama is in london. he's urging great britain to stay in the european union, but the brits have not been receptive to his pro european union stance, criticizing intrusion on british affairs. fox news chief white house correspondent kevin corke is traveling with the president, has this report. >> the u.s. and the u.k. stand together, we make our countries
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more secure, make our people more prosperous and make the world safer and better. >> reporter: it was supposed to be a fairly straightforward message meant to encourage the u.k. to remain in the 28-nation european union, and elevate the position of his good friend british prime minister david cameron. one remark may have unwittingly if not profoundly set back the cause. >> in negotiating with the big bloc of the european union to get a deal done, and the u.k. is back in the cue. >> reporter: back in the cue if the u.k. exits the european union, that sounded like a warning. >> astonishing intervention by president obama in the internal affairs of the british people. >> i don't have a special power over the president of the united states. barack feels strongly and our decision is as a sovereign
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people, the choice we made about europe. >> reporter: in an outspoken proponent of leaving the eu mocked the president, writing in the sun -- the rue over the exit overshadowed the trip to collaborate with the cooperation and the refugee migration crisis, something the president sees as a threat to the u.s. >> we consider it a major national security issue that you have uncontrolled migration into europe. >> reporter: the two discussed the fight against isis and russia's support for the renegade assad regime in syria where a fragile cease-fire has started to crumble. >> i've always been skeptical about mr. putin's actions and motives inside syria. he is the preeminent backer of a murderous regime. >> reporter: still wasn't all business for the president.
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earlier in the day, he and the first lady lunched at windsor castle with queen elizabeth ii for her 90th birthday. they later spent time with william and kate and prince harry at kensington palace. not pictured but certainly there was another royal. talking about two-year-old prince george. the son of william and kate. the would-be future king obviously making appearance, and frankly, if you saw the pictures on the internet, people love this little kid, and why not? and for the record, sister charlotte slept through the entire exchange. though george was up past his bedtime, it was certainly worth it. tom made mention of queen elizabeth ii, he called her an astonishing person and said she's a jewel not only to the u.k. but the entire world. and lastly want to pass along this nugget speaking of royalty, the president mentioned music royalty, talking about prince, the late music icon.
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the president said he began his day by listening to an lp of the late singer. tom? >> kevin corke with the president in london. the state department today confirming the obama administration will buy 32 tons of nuclear material from iran. the move angering critics still reeling after iran received billions in sanctions relief thanks to president obama's nuke deal. fox news correspondent doug mckel way has our report. >> reporter: 8.6 million dollars for nuclear material. that's what the u.s. is paying iran to reduce the amount of heavy water it possesses during the first few years under and 90 tons in later years. the obama administration sees this as a win-win deal because first the u.s. produces no heavy water itself. it buys it on the international market. in addition, heavy water has a lot of uses such as in the manufacturer of fiber-optics
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and semiconductors and nuclear weapons, that's what has critics so incensed. house speaker paul ryan fired off angry response to the buy -- . >> the administration is trying to say iran is living up to obligations under the nuclear deal by producing only so much heavy water, but shouldn't have heavy water, shouldn't be enriching uranium. it kept the entire infrastructure in place and is allowing troon protect capability to make nuclear fuel that it will be able to use for weapons. >> reporter: when asked about the heavy water, a state department spokeswoman deflected the answer and abruptly ended the briefing. >> what kind of dollars are used to purchase the heavy water from iran? >> this was facilitated through the energy department so i'm
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going to refrain. thanks, guys. >> reporter: iranian foreign minister in new york today putting pressure on secretary of state john kerry that sanctioning is not happening fast enough because world bankers are unsure what assets should be kept frozen. they are prohibited transactions with iran that are now legal. >> thank you. we're coming right back, with much more, stay with us. donald trump closer than ever to clinching the gop presidential nomination. now top advisers say he's implementing a new strategy. >> looking to work with the rnc and other leaders of the state party to begin to put together the framework for a united republican effort in the fall. >> will trump's new image guarantee him the republican nomination? we'll take it up with fox news contributor guy benson and the washington free beacon's elizabeth harrington. and this daredevil takes
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first of all, she would beat him so badly, he'd lose so many states, there's no chance. look at what happened to him just this week. he lost to kasich! cruz came in third! i will win new york against hillary clinton. i think i'm going to win new york. and i'll win michigan, and i'll win pennsylvania. [ cheers ] >> and, of course, delaware, but we know that, right? [ cheers ] >> and i'll win florida! >> in time, delaware is one of the five key states holding their primary next tuesday. joining me townhall.com political editor and fox news contributor guy benson, and staff writer for "the washington free beacon" elizabeth harrington. let's start with the "fox news poll"s that are out. now the california, for heaven's sake, guy, start with
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you, i'm an old californian, i find that to be pretty amazing, what do you think? >> really good poll numbers for donald trump coming out from fox news. both in california, 27-point lead for donald trump, lapping the field, and crucially in indiana, a dearth of public polling, up 8 on ted cruz in that state. and the reason why the indiana poll is particularly important tonight is that we saw this week a big win in new york as expected for donald trump. we're expecting donald trump to again sweep and do very well next tuesday in the northeastern blue states. ted cruz really needs to stop the bleeding and win indiana, it's a state where he should be on some level on paper well situated. if he's down 8 points to donald trump in indiana, there is real trouble in the cruz campaign. tom: elizabeth, i thought the way to guy's point about the fact there has been a dearth of polling in indiana, but it was kind of widely talked about the
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fact that that was one that ted cruz was expecting to win. >> sure. i think lots of peoplesumed indiana, the demographics are similar to other states that cruz has won, and lots of people were hoping in the so-called never trump camp that cruz would have a victory there, and that would prove, be able to prevent trump from getting the magic 1237 number. what polls are showing, that doesn't look to be the case right now. trump has a comfortable 8-point lead there, and let's face it, if he wins indiana, this race is pretty much over. he may not necessarily get all the way to 1237, but he'll be close enough and all those unbound delegates that will be left for the picking for trump to sell on a deal, he's likely to get some of those and push them over the top. tom: guy, do you feel good about the accuracy because of the fact that if you're talking
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about the next five states on tuesday, then throw in indiana, then throw in california. only six weeks away from the end of this primary process. >> right. tom: momentum may be something that would be very hard for ted cruz to overcome? >> yeah, and there's been an argument this is not really a momentum race because ted cruz won that crushing victory in wisconsin and racked up delegates in a number of states like colorado and north dakota and elsewhere earlier this month, and then donald trump waltzed into new york and cleaned up. i think if you see the cascade of week after week after week, tuesday, after tuesday, after tuesday, wins for trump, especially if he breaks cruz's back in indiana, that could be all she wrote, particularly if the numbers out of california are accurate. or close to accurate. we've heard a lot about cruz's ground game being much stronger than trump's in california. i'm confident that's true. ground game can only compensate
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so much. if you're down 25 points, you're not going to win the lion's share or substantial number of delegates there. and trump could at these numbers get on 1237 before cleveland. tom: elizabeth, quickly, is this the time we're starting to hear buzz about the candidates, both ted cruz and donald trump starting to talk about vice presidential running mates, members of cabinet. is that a technique that will help them in their campaigns? >> i mean, i think it will be a little absurd if cruz or kasich announce their running mate before the convention, when both of them have mathematically been eliminated to get in on the first ballot. it could be a tactic to try to shore up delegates for the second ballot, if it comes to a contested convention, but i mean, it would really just be to take attention away from trump at that point. tom: so too soon. thank you, guy benson, elizabeth harrington. thank you. >> you bet.
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tom: breaking news, the tech expert who set up hillary clinton's personal eshg mail server is still refusing to talk to congress. brian pagliano's attorney told the chairman of two senate committees that pagliano, quote, respectfully declines invitation to testify about the work. pagliano was recently granted immunity by the fbi in exchange for his cooperation in the clinton server investigation. be sure to vote in tonight's poll -- follow through on -- links to everything about our good buddy lou is right at loudobbs.com. even if you don't have a fear of heights, this stunt is sure to make your heart stop,
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make it a little queasy without ropes or harnesses this daredevil tumbled, back flipped, hung on the edge of an incredibly tall skyscraper in dubai. let's hope he doesn't spend all his afternoons like that. that is amazing. donald trump's campaign manager says his candidate is evolving for the better. . tom: the "weekly standard"'s fred barnes will weigh in coming up next. poor mouth breather. allergies? stuffy nose? can't sleep?
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outlined the road ahead to the convention. >> we think it's critical for the republican party to come together before july. if we are fighting in july, if the convention is fractured in july, our chances of winning will be dramatically impacted. we're the only one that can be nominated in the first ballot and voters in the republican party aren't indicating where they want to be. you've got 66% of republicans saying that the leader in total votes and delegates should be the nominee. that's already finished. we know who's going to finish first in both of the categories. now is the time to start the healing in the leadership of the party, and mr. trump wants to reach out to republican groups to bring together all of the elements of the campaign structures so we can merge the presidential campaign with the committee campaigns. >> and those efforts are going to intensify in the days ahead?
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>> absolutely. >> all right. tom: joining me now executive editor for the weekly standard and fox news contributor fred barnes. and fred, nice to see you. what do you think of paul manafort's comments that this is all put to bed, and if they're arguing in july, it's bad news for november. >> the last part he's right, if they're arguing in july, and arguing to some extent in july anyway, if it's toned down, that will be fine. my question about paul manafort and he's a very experienced political professional is how much influence he has with donald trump? this is not like karl rove advising president george w. bush. they've been together for years and years, and bush trusts karl rove, but i think trump just gotten to know paul manafort, so there's a real question how much influence manafort's going to have and whether he's going to be able to create, as he says, trump as a different guy.
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tom: yeah, well, that's the other question. can zebra change its stripes? that's one to watch. >> it's going to be one to watch, but there are a number of ways we can tell whether he's changing or not. one is if he's stopped insulting people. it does him no good now. he's thrashing ted cruz. he doesn't need to go after cruz or kasich. and if he stopped pounding the republican national committee, i guess he has, says they're running a corrupt primary system with these conventions, and then there's the best test of all, and that is his unfavorable number. the problem with trump is by two to one voters look at him unfavorably. that number needs to come down. tom: will republicans come together? will there be a kumbaya
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regardless how this turns out? >> not really. many people i know claim they'll never vote for trump. trump may win some of the people back. you can't wait around for the people to come to him. he's got to go get them. and most are conservatives. he has to appeal to conservatives and maybe it will start with national security speech this coming week. tom: see how good of a salesman he is. go to the democratic side. the question is for bernie sanders, is in trouble, and bernie sanders seems like he's more than a candidate. he's almost like he's got this group of people that are passionate about this movement. where will they go? what will they do if he's not the nominee? will they go for another outsider like a donald trump? >> i don't really think so. i think the democratic party is going to be unified. they'll fall in behind hillary, and i think the hillary people would find in behind bernie sanders as well. when you see the debates between sanders and clinton,
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they're not that far apart, and so it's a lot easier for the democrats to unite than it's going to be for the republicans. tom: all right, i look at standard folks, it's almost like a religion. let's look at california and indiana, the polls are out in the last hour, and in california donald trump is ahead by miles. are you surprised? look at that 49-22. >> yes, i am a little surprised. i knew trump would be ahead, but there were earlier polls that showed much closer than that in california, so california, it's the last day for primaries, and look, when you're ahead by nearly 30 points, that's a gap that will be very difficult for cruz to overcome. tom: you know, but fred for a long time, most of my adult life i lived in california. their vote has never counted. there's got to be a lot of
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excitement and stirrup of the republicans in california, they haven't had a chance to make a difference in a long time? >> the last time i remember is 1984 on the democratic side. that's a long time ago. if trump wins in california, i think he'll be able to put together enough of the unpledged delegates that he can gather up after that and win on the first ballot. tom: well, it's going to be like a month before the convention. so california is going to be an important one. >> indeed. tom: fred barnes, always good to see you, thank you for coming on. >> you're welcome. tom: we're coming right back with much more, stay with us. president obama traveling abroad trying to build up support to step up the fight against the islamic state. >> this has always been hard and keep being hard. tom: we know it's hard work, mr. president, but what are you doing about it, or do we have to wait for the next commander in chief? take it up with fox news
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the speech we're told will cover trade, economic and national security and here's trump hitting those issues in indiana where he has an 8-point lead over ted cruz in the new "fox news poll." >> you look at what putin is doing in russia with nukes, luke at what putin is doing in russia with military. it's modernized. they're building all over, wherever they feel they need, they put. we don't do, that we're getting smaller, smaller, weaker, weaker. we have to build up our military. we have to make it strong. tom: joining me former pentagon official and fox news national security analyst k.t. mcfarland. are the russians investing and we're shrinking? >> absolutely. they're not only building but pushing us around in the middle east, pushing us around in eastern europe. they're doing provocative
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military engagements within a football field, not even a whole football field, like a first down, 30 feet from an american fleet. tom: flying over the ships. it's a message to the baltic states more than it is about us. do you agree? >> i think what putin is aiming to do, he's thinking i've got a weak indecisive lame-duck president. i'm going to grab what i have now because i don't know what i'm going to have. tom: are you expecting him to be more aggressive? >> absolutely. i think he's going to pull something this summer in the baltics. ukraine was a dry run, he can do stuff, send in russian forces. he doesn't let them be called russian forces, paints on the side of the tanks. they take the insignias off, those aren't my guys, maybe they are on vacation. tom: the green army men. >> little green men, a hybrid war. ukraine is not a nato member
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but the other countries, the baltics, astonia, latvia, lithuania, they are nato members, if putin gets away with doing to them what he did with ukraine. tom: if they give up nukes, we would defend them? >> we looked the other way in the bush administration and the obama administration, but a nato treaty is different than a handshake deal we had with ukraine. tom: well, donald trump is questioning the cost of nato. >> he's absolutely right. i've said the same thing for years, that nato treaty as well as our treaties with japan and other countries were put in place right after world war ii. those countries were on their knees economically, we wanted them to be stable countries, we did the lion's share of the contribution. we never renegotiated the deal. tom: i'm with you on that. there's a lot of squealing about it, i'm going how about how much we're paying for that.
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>> 75% of it and it's a defensive treaty to protect them. you don't get rid of the treaty but redefine it and certainly renegotiate it. tom: yes, wednesday, big speech? important speech? >> hugely important. he sent the signal, giving the speech under the sponsorship of the old nixon center. this is the nixon center. this is kissinger, this is reagan. this is a break with the neocons that are interventionists. i think trump is in the kissinger lane, have a strong defense, nobody picks a fight with you, you don't want to go first, you don't want to use the force to invade countries. tom: peace through strength. >> peace through strength. i worked for president reagan and i wrote the speeches, when reagan said peace through strength, it meant something, when he said strength, it didn't mean military strength, it meant military, economic, political, diplomatic, intelligence strength, all of
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the things together. that's what i want to see donald trump say. tom: so john kerry and to some extent president obama have been saying you won't believe what the foreign leaders are talking to me about, what's going on in the u.s.? i know they're politicians, are they? >> who the europeans and others? >> yes. >> they're not worried, they're curious. what always happens in world politics is it happens first in america and then happens in other parts of the world. they've got to be looking at this saying we've got somebody coming in throwing out the establishment. that's the campaign theme, what happens us to? we might be next. tom: well, yes. >> might be. tom: that's the $64 question. first we have to have an election. >> we have an election, it's the anti-incumbent, anti-establishment, why? whether it's in europe or the united states, the establishment isn't doing it for you anymore. tom: both here and there. k.t. mcfarland.
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thank you very much. be sure to vote in tonight's poll -- check this out, a breathtaking view off the coast of california. a sightseeing ship captured video of hundreds of dolphins stampeding as they raced away from killer whales. whale watchers were treated to the rare sight of synchronized swimming for survival. i don't blame them. go dolphins. up next, donald trump, he goes moderate on social issues. >> we have to take care of everybody. i love north carolina. they have a law, it's a law that unfortunately is causing them some problemis and fully understand if they want to go through. they are losing business and having a lot of people come out against. tom: well, it will affect his support among evangelicals? pastor robert jeffress takes that up next. ♪
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"today" show. >> people go to use the bathroom that they feel is appropriate. joining me how donald trump's comments will attract support from evangelicals? no better person to ask than pastor robert jeffress, he's also a fox news contributor. pastor, good to see you. will this hurt him with evangelicals? this is a pretty powerful ad? >> i don't think it's going hurt tom. and here's the reason why, his comments about abortion. look, donald trump is pro-life,
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he gave three exceptions, rape, incest and endangerment of the mother's life, and while the exceptions are not in the republican platform, they are embraced by many pro-life people, and by the way, ronald reagan and billy graham embraced those three exceptions. you can hardly accuse trump of being liberal on abortion. when it comes to the bathroom issue, look, tom, i don't want some man wandering into the bathroom where my wife and two daughters are because he's confused about his gender. that's lunacy, but it's a lunacy that should be regulated by cities and states, not the federal government. most conservatives don't want their president to be the national bathroom monitor. so i think trump's position is really the conservative position, less federal government. let's let the local authorities handle that. tom: it seems to me that this bathroom issue has just landed from outer space as if transgenders haven't been
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living on this planet for the last thousand years, it's not been an issue until a presidential election campaign, it seems like look over here at the bathroom issue, don't look at the debt and syria and everything else we have that are facing our nation. looks like a wedge issue. >> well, i agree with that. but i do think it's symptomatic of a deeper problem in society, that is a lack of belief and absolute truth. look, just imagine, tom, i go to the social security office and say i want my benefits. they look at my birth certificate and say well, you're only 60 years old. well, i feel like i'm 66 and you can't discriminate me because of my feelings. that is absolute idiocy. our age is fixed and our gender is fixed. it's not a matter of psychology. it's a matter of physiology. so there is a bigger cultural are going on here. tom: there is, and it seems as if, again, it is destined to be
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a wedge issue for this campaign. but when it comes to the evangelicals, and i go back to the christian right was really instrumental in getting george bush elected in 2000. does the christian right still have the same punch? some of the primaries in more evangelical states that were supposed to go to cruz went to trump. >> well, first of all, donald trump has great appeal to a large group of evangelicals. i think he benefitted from the fact that when the bible belt contests were going on, the nontrump evangelicals were splintered among a variety of candidates which helped trump and hurt cruz. there's no doubt that evangelicals are looking for somebody with leadership. and, you know, tom, i often use this illustration. in 1980, the country was falling apart at the seams. americans had a choice between two candidates. one was a born-again baptist sunday schoolteacher faithfully married to one woman, jimmy
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carter. the other choice was a twice-married hollywood actor who as governor of california signed the most liberal abortion bill in california history and his wife practiced astrology. his name was ronald reagan. guess who the evangelicals voted for? ronald reagan, not because he was the most religious but had the quality people felt was important at that time, and that was leadership. that explains the trump phenomenon. nobody voting for trump think he is the best candidate to lead bible studies in the ovals on. they're voting for trump because they believe he's the best candidate to lead our movement. tom: pastor robert jeffress, thank you. >> thanks, tom. tom: you bet. on wall street, stocks ending mixed after earnings misses from microsoft and google, parent of alphabet. the dow was up, down, finished up 21 point.
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the s&p up a fraction. nasdaq down 40, and the volume on the big board, 3.7 billion shares changing hands today. and for the week, the dow, s&p, both of them up half a percent. the nasdaq ended down two-thirds of a percent. listen to lou three times a day on the salem radio network. donald trump gives insight into what his presidential cabinet would look like. >> i can tell that you dr. ben carson is a terrific guy. he endorsed me and chris christie endorsed me and these are two tremendous people. i'd like to have them. frankly marco, i'd love to have involved. tom: about that, radio talk show host larry o'connor and mark simone take that up next. ♪ i don't want to live with the uncertainties of hep c. or wonder whether i should seek treatment.
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terry mcauliffe is a lifelong 200,000 felons. you served your time. you are off probation. so welcome to the voting rolls. terry mcauliffe isn't even trying to be transparent. >> whether it's a mort gain or legislation, nothing is transparent. it says a lot for hillary clinton and you clinton supporters should be proud, convicted felons like her. >> hillary clinton will lock up the felon vote in a big way. she can empathize with these
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people because she is look over her shoulder in an f.b.i. investigation. audiotapes show her bragging about how she got a child rapist off in arkansas. she has the rapist and murder vote. we need a republican to go in to virginia to get the vote of those who feel disenfranchised. their vote will be van cold out after terry mcauliffe signs this piece of paper. tom: it's the northern virginia part which is mostly democratic, is it not? >> prince william county could decide not just how virginia go, but it could decide the presidential elect.
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tom: new york is the liberal bastion of the country. >> anybody can use any restroom now, convicted vote. tom: in new york, somebody walk into your restroom, nobody noticed. in north carolina, they notice. go to the path room in penn staying, it's not a pretty sight. what about theley that donald trump was talking about, he was talking about christy and maybe rubio and carson. >> in those relationship mall debates i used to look up there and say that's a hell of a cabinet. christie, carson, you have got a great cabinet up there. >> what's the fir thing that will happen when marco rubio says something and the president
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says listen, little marco. >> he would fight with city hall but then he would hire the lawyer who was against him. tom: or he could be like the "apprentice" and fire everyone. he's got a couple of the "apprentice" people who have cop out and said i don't like the guy. it will be an amazing turn around. if he's able to rankle these -- rangle these republicans it will be the greatest effort of any politician in modern history. tom: are you hearing a kumbaya moment if trump is the nominee?
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>> guarantee, no. tom: 53% oftrump does not need the gop establishment to defeat hillary clinton in november. that's it for us. good night. >> announcer: this show has never been solely about investments. we have talked about anything that have affected people and their money. from fox business headquarters in new york city, the new "wall street week." >> welcome to wall street week. i'm anthony scaramucci.
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