jason pride, glenmede investment strategy director. [closing bell rings] we have gain of 178 points after apple and buffett forced the dow higher to the week. there is the closing bell. david and melissa pick it up here for "after the bell." melissa: markets soaring today on optimism about apple, oil and the fed. major averages ending the day more than 1%. i'm melissa francis. >> i'm david asman. this is "after the bell." we've got you covered in the markets but first here is what else is happening at this hour. donald trump feuding with the "new york times" over allegations that he based inappropriately with women. leading accuser in the piece says the newspaper twisted her words. this while hillary clinton is focused on kentucky, adding tomorrow's voting. she is campaigning in hopkinsville, trying to stop momentum of bernie sanders. facebook ceo mark zuckerberg announce which conservative leaders he will meet with in an

attempt to refute accusations of libral bias. fox news radio host todd starnes is one of his posts was removed by facebook. why he was censored, that incredible material he found facebook still has on their site. melissa: dow off the highs for final moment of trading. apple big winner on the trade. adam shapiro on floor of new york stock exchange for more on what is driving stocks big day, adam. reporter: it was a big day. it wasn't just apple, it was also oil. goldman sachs says the oil glut has gone into deficit because of production problems in canada and nigeria. that helped oil close up. oil is trading higher after the close. that was good news for the energy sector. s&p 500 enjoyed that run look what happened with the dow. year to day the dow back above 1 1/2% growth. it is up today. intraday up a little bit over 1%. s&p 500 closing up today.

nasdaq was up today as well. apple, there is big news we talked about all day long, that berkshire hathaway buying a billion dollars, taking a stake in apple although wasn't warren buffett who made the call. two managers who get to manage what, $9 billion of the portfolio, they made the decision. didn't tell us which one. mr. buffett as well as berkshire hathaway into apple. finally look where apple closed today though. it was up 4% which is something that apple shareholders will enjoy. one last thing, apple tree, 1792, new york stock exchange will celebrate the 224th birthday under the buttonwood tree where the 24 men made agreement where we stand today. melissa: adam, thank you so much. david: donald trump is firing back. the presumptive gop nominee slamming "the new york times" on quote a lame hit piece on his relationship with women. fox business's blake burman in d.c. with the very latest on campaign trail.

hi, there, blake. reporter: david, good afternoon. donald trump is calling the latest front page cameo on "the times" dishonest. they ran an article focusing solely on trump's relationship with women. "the times" interviewed more than 50 women for that story which portrayed trump and bachelor and boss who engaged in quote, unwelcome romantic advances, quote, unsettling work place conduct. one of the lead figures in that story was trump's former model girlfriend, rowanne brewer lane, she appeared on "fox & friends." she felt "the times" twisted her story. listen here. >> they spun it to where it appeared negative. i did not have a negative experience with donald trump. i don't appreciate them making it look like that i was saying that it was a negative experience because it was not. reporter: trump fired right back on twitter ending a series of tweets by writing and i'm quoting here, with the coming

forward of the women central to the failing "new york times" hit piece on me, we have exposed article as a fraud. meantime, trump is about to face a media blitz elsewhere. priorities usa, a major super-pac backing hillary clinton, they will launch an advertising campaign attacking trump. $6 million worth of tv ads in four swing states will start airing on wednesday. david? david: blake burman, thank you, blake. melissa. melissa: joining me now with the trump campaign's response to the "new york times" report, katrina pierson, trump campaign national spokesperson. obviously you saw the main woman portrayed in the article. her picture was at the top. brought out as their lead piece of evidence come out disavow it today. at the same time, there is a lot of material in there that sort of paints the picture of donald trump as somebody who at very least very focused on women's appearances. how do you sort of how would you describe the rest of the

content? >> this is what i would say, melissa. the fact that you have this multibillion-dollar celebrity who had girlfriends over the years isn't breaking news. the fact that he is a marketing genius who ran a beauty pageant, it is shouldn't be uncommon for him to notice a woman's appearance, particularly in those contexts. that is not surprising either. yes, as you had mentioned the chief person "new york times" article pointed out came out and said look, i didn't have a bad experience at all. and they talked about some of the negative comments which for all we know could have been made up because mr. trump doesn't even remember some of these people. at same time there wasn't any lengthy story about these women who had positive experiences. there were just a couple sentences. all in all this was hit piece to continue left-wing media push paint donald trump as misogynist sexist. melissa: katrina you talk about continued push. i think a lot of reaction today from both sides, number one there was nothing new in this

article. it wasn't groundbreaking in any way, but at same time there is nothing new. this is kind of what we keep hering about him that reinforces idea he doesn't respect women that much. and whether or not that is true i hear you saying it is not true, it is still cemented in minds of a lot of voters out there. do you think it is important change that around with at least some women before the election? >> i think it will change around. "new york times" did as you favor doing just that there are a number of women who had very positive experiences with mr. trump and they just kind of hinted to that in the article. i think moving forward you will see more of that come out. but you're also seeing a lot of these attacks get completely annihilated and negated because they did try to have this slant. i mean if there was something truly there, if there trump was truly against woman you wouldn't have the main woman come out saying it wasn't true. that is with we'll see moving forward. melissa: from your point of view

would it be more effective to put some woman you're talking about for ward and here are women he has done things greatly for, or do you push that aside, that is the other side's agenda want to talk about. that move on instead to talk things like the economy and national security? which is more effective? >> we will do what we continued do to mr. trump's vix to make america great again at front of this campaign. those women are coming out on their own. the media chooses to ignore them which is no surprise. i think we'll see exactly what happened this summer which is what happened last summer. mr. trump will get out there on the campaign trail. he will be engaging with voters directly, bypassing mainstream media and people are going to realize this man is a man of the people. he does support pro-american values and pro-american policies and does respect women even when they mentioned he was one of the first to put women in ranking positions in the '80s.

that is supposed to mean nothing? i think that's huge. melissa: what is most important one thing for him to do between now and convention? >> between now and the convention is really solidify the party, bring everyone together. he is talking about releasing some names of people that he would consider being in the cabinet. even for supreme court. i think that's going to be important. going and having these individual meetings he has been having on the hill over the last couple months are going to be important. there are a lot of congressman and senators who would like his support moving into the election and so i think that will be the most important thing. melissa: katrina, thanks for coming on. appreciate it. >> great to be here. thank you. melissa: david? >> hillary clinton hitting the stump in kentucky to drum up voter support ahead of tomorrow's contest. after promising to put a lot of coal miners and companies out of business, coal country is not clinton country. can she mend the wounds to seal the bluegrass state 55 delegates?

jeff flock in hopkinsville, kentucky, with very latest. hi, jeff. reporter: one of the four stops. i don't want to speak to loudly to preempt the secretary of state. she in the midst of it. she is not taking the state for granted. last poll had her up here marginally. she had 12 different campaign stops last couple days. bernie sanders was here too. of course she had to address the issue, the coal issue. and also invoking the name of her husband, and his ability to put those coal miners back to work somehow. >> we do have to transition but we need to take coal country and coal miners and their families with us and not leave them behind. [applause] i think we know a little bit about how to create jobs. i think my husband did a heck of a job creating jobs back in the '90s. [cheering] reporter: that is the other headline i think from hillary clinton. that her husband would not be a part of her cabinet but he will be in charge, she says, making

economy work better. hillary clinton continues now to stop in lexington, kentucky, next and i think she is done. going down for some rest. hoping for the best. david: jeff flock with his best golf nouner's voice, very well-done i must say. thank you very much. melissa. melissa: supreme court sidestepping a decision on major challenge to the obamacare. the nation's highest court will not decide on a case involving the health care law contraceptive mandate, instead sending it back to the lower court to find a solution. the judges were considering whether religious affiliated institutions could be exempt from birth control in the health care plans. david: they're passing on that one. targeting business leaders here at home. new details from al qaeda's website sounding alarm. former army vice chief of staff jack keane weighing in on the that threat. melissa: major holes in the clinton foundation financial records.

this is according to research by charles ortell, who made a name for himself as financial whistle-blower. we'll see his findings coming up. david: third party candidate push will not give up. we'll look at possibility and probability of this happening. john kasich telling cnn he is not interested but there are others. >> they can try to hijack another party and get on the ballot but look, it is a suicide mission for our country.

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thanks for coming in, general. president obama as you know made a special trip to the pentagon back in december to announce the following. let me play the tape and get your reaction. >> so far isil has lost about 40% of the populated areas it once controlled in iraq. and it will lose more. david: so in december he said that we have recaptured 40%. now we hear that since then we've only recaptured 5%. was the president misspeaking or what? >> no. he was accurate. that watts time of the fall of ramadi. the reality is isis is continuing to do a number of things preventing further territory being taken, particularly around mosul. they're conducting counteroffense he sieve operations there. that led to the tragic death of our very seal 10 days ago. they're doing same thing around safe haven in syria. the other harsh real text david,

the iraqi army is nowhere ready to take back territory. most observers believe and insiders in the iraqi army themselves that that operation will not be ready until sometime next year. david: wow. >> look, this administration from 2014 when it said we're going to destroy isis passed up on options that would have given us a difficult answer by now. one, coalition arab force to go into syria and take the safe haven down rather quickly with u.s. participation. saudis offered that. the president said no. two, a much larger enabling force to help iraqi army, somewhere in the neighborhood of 10,000 plus, not the 10 incremental changes we have made in the last two years. that would have made a difference very early on. this will be at doorstep, 1600 pennsylvania avenue of a new president to decide how and when we will defeat isis.

david: general, i want to talk about something else but before we leave iraq, would we had this program had the president listened to generals and kept troops there longer than we wanted to? >> there would be no isis today if we did not pull out of iraq militarily in 2011 and also pull away from iraq politically which gave the iranians the influence. david: wow. >> isis's roots are in iraq. and they moved to syria to build an army but they grew up in iraq and they never would have been able to achieve any status if we had stayed. david: incredible. al qaeda's newest target terror groups online magazine, "inspire," asking militants to target american business leaders and entrepreneur in an effort to weaken the american economy the we've seen this before, back in september, "inspire" magazine, which is al qaeda's magazine had similar pictures of american

business leaders s this any different, this threat? >> no, i don't think so. any threat against any particular individual that is named the fbi will take that seriously, notify that individual and make sure that there's nothing moving in that direction in terms of threatening that individual but look it, we've got to be realistic about this. this is aspirational on the part of this al qaeda organization in yemen. they're not going to send their fighters here. they don't have the capacity to direct an operation with people inside of the united states to execute this. this is just motivating people at large who identify with them to do something tragic and harmful. david: right. >> you have to take it seriously but look it, realistically it is probably pretty slim. david: you know it seems to me that the only thing jihadis understand is strength. that is the only thing they appreciate and that they respect is strength and they haven't seen a lot of that coming from us recently. >> well they would be there regardless of u.s. policy but

the fact is u.s. policy, some of which i just enumerated, as weak as it has been in the middle east, turmoil was there without the u.s. policy but u.s. policy has enabled this organization to grow and to flourish because we stood back and actually let it happen that tragic. it expanded into nine affiliate countries and in and outside the middle east and inspired followers to kill their fellow citizens. that is the reality of it. david: general jack keane, sobering thought, thank you. >> good to talk to you, dad. melissa: athe british prime min. >> looks like we're not going to have a very good relationship. who knows. i hope to have a good relationship with him but sound like he is not willing to address the problem either. >> would you like david cameron to withdraw the particularly the comments that you're stupid and divisive and wrong with your -- >> number one i'm not stupid. i can tell you that right now.

melissa: trump adding that he doesn't see himself as divisive person. he is unifier, quote, unlike our president now. david: we have breaking news from the stock market. shares of ad due lent technologies --agegy lent technologies. agilent. raised guidance for fiscal year to come. melissa: facebook doing major damage control. conservatives set to meet with mark zuckerberg following allegations of news bias. next todd starnes reveals how his conservative page was blocked by the company. plus, unruly and unpredictable. is this a preview of the democratic national convention? [shouting]

melissa: freedom of speech coming into major question on social media. action is being taken. facebook ceo mark zuckerberg meeting this week with prominent

conservatives in the media to address allegations of censoring conservative posts on his social media website. todd starnes from fox news radio joins us now because, this happened to you? >> yes. melissa: sweet todd starnes! how could they possibly block you? let me tell the audience. you wrote, i'm wearing nra baseball cap, eating a chik-fil-a sandwich, reading paula dean cookbook and sipping a 20-ounce sweet tea sitting in my cracker barrel rocking chair, listen to jesus, it goes on. how do you know as a result of this you were blocked? >> oh, i'm the bad boy of facebook, melissa. 20-ounce sweet tea got me i think. melissa: yeah. >> sortly after i posted message, talking about all the craziness of politically correct crowd at the time. i got a message from facebook. it said this post violated their community standards and they actually provided an actual image of a screen shot of my

post and they said it was blocked from facebook. melissa: there it is. and they're, just so everybody knows, i don't understand how this violates their policy. >> yeah. melissa: they said, it is about respectful speech and hate speech. and it is community standards. and that they may remove certain kinds of sensitive comments or limit what the audience sees. they remove hate speech which they described as based on race, ethnicity, national origin, sexual orientation, sex gender, identity, disability. i looked at your list, sweet tea has a lost sugar? may bloomberg -- i don't know other than that -- >> could be. they take away posts that involve nudity or pornography. for the record everybody has to wear pants on my site. paula dean wasn't doing anything untoward with the butter. i think we're pretty much safe there. melissa: yeah. >> this goes to overall issue is facebook in fact cracking down on conservative conversation and i believe they are.

mark zuckerberg says that not the case but far too manies times i have received messages from fellow conservatives who say they have been attacked. >> for basis comparisons 9 thing you were talking about was tongue in cheek. >> oh, yeah. melissa: you mentioned chik-fil-a, obviously has had different issues. >> sure. melissa: gay marriage and this and that. but at at sim time, quickly on our staff "after the bell," looked around on facebook found current pages titled, f donald trump. f-sarah palin. go on with a bunch of expletives after that. tea party can kiss my, got to bleep that as well. these are the titles of page. >> sure. melissa: gets more colorful are there. those are up. there isn't one that says, f-hillary clinton for example. >> i think there is a trouble start here. when you look back at the pew study a couple months ago talking about millenials, facebook hires a lot of millenials on their staff. many support limitations on free speech. i'm not all that surprised

they're cracking down. it is facebook. they can do what they want to do. i'm very fortunate i'm still able to post on facebook. melissa: how do

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melissa: stocks ending the day, major averages biggest gain in a week. the dow finishing up 1%. 175 points while supply concerns driving oil, settling at 3% to its highest level since november. david? david: "new york times" featuring a major piece on donald trump's relationships with women. the article titled, "crossing the line," how donald trump based with women in private begins with a stinging anecdote from a model trump dated 25 years ago but this morning on "fox & friends" the same woman says she is not pleased with how "the times" told her story. >> they did take quotes from what i said and they put a negative connotation on it, they spun it to where it appeared negative. i did not have a negative experience with donald trump.

and i don't appreciate them making it look like that i was saying that it was a negative experience because it was not. david: judy miller is a fox news contributor, pulitzer prize vining investigative reporter formerly of course with the "new york times." she joins us with her take. judy, putting aside if possible, your feelings about trump, isn't this a black eye for the newspaper you used to work for? >> look, this is a problem for "the new york times." by the way, david, i have to say that the paper was very quick to stand by the story. they said that they had quoted ms. lane fairly accurately and at great length, that is true. but when you start a long investigation with a 26-year-old incident that happened or didn't happen, and the person about who you're writing says you got it all wrong and i never said that you have a problem. the two reporters were on the air. i know one of them very well. they were defending their story.

they were saying, let the readers decide. but the fact of the matter is, this kind of story had to be nailed down absolutely. and it gave trump, mr. trump an opportunity to just hammer not only "the new york times" but mainstream media. david: now, judy i used to work for competitor. i used to work for "the wall street journal." >> yes you did. david: we used to call up, everybody we quoted we would call up to go over their quotes before we published them. unless it was hostile witness and we had tape recording and so forth. but i got the impression that the "new york times" didn't do the same here? >> well, they said they talked to her several times but i'm not sure that they actually gave her -- it would be, it would not be standard procedure to show in advance what you're writing about her. look, you're dealing with donald trump and man with this reputation and pretending to do the definitive exploration of his past relationships with

women, you better get all of that straight. david: yes. >> it better be, so to speak, bulletproof. david: does this kill any kind of comment from the opposition from hillary clinton's camp that he's very bad with women? >> oh, no, i don't think so. just look at what he has done recently. we don't have to go back 26 years and talk to ms. lane. we can look at carly fiorina. david: remember how he attacks. remember how he already attacked the clintons when they charged him with being tough on women. he went back to bill clinton. he said the worst, and this article proves it by the way, even if you assume everything in it is true and accurate, still the worst comes nowhere near to the charges made against bill clinton. >> well, first of all, i don't think we know enough, even yet about mr. trump's relationship with women. but second of all, what is known about bill clinton is very well-known whereas all of this material about mr. trump is new.

david: but bill clinton was accused of rape. there is nothing that comes close to that in all of these accusations, some which were incorrect were in the "new york times." >> many of them were in the "new york times" but the fact of the matter is, he was impeached. there was a vote. nothing happened. he walked out and remains one of the most popular presidents in history. david: but he didn't win the battle on the campaign trail over these past couple months. when they went after trump on women, he came back look at bill. he won that battle. you know that is true. >> this is true but let's see how it plays out in the long run. look, david, come on, what donald trump has said about women is just so weird, whether it is megyn kelly, carly fiorina. david: but what bill clinton has done with women is the point. if they start firing in that direction it will come back in spade. >> david, he is not running for president. hillary clinton is running for president. as is donald trump. david: yeah. it didn't work the last time the

clintons tried that. they came out as a pair against him and it didn't work. we have to leave it at that we'll be talking about this again, i am sure, judy miller, thank you very much. >> lots of heart burn in the "new york times" david. melissa: -- finances could be more than accidental. after looking into the clinton global initiative records on more than one year, charles ortel, a financial whistle-blower and analyst found major discrepancies he says could be fraud. he joins me now. i just want to explain to our audience. you are somebody who looks into these very detailed financial records. it's a ton of work. it took you 15 months to do this. you were somebody correctly identified problems at ge around aig. this is not a political thing. numbers and finance is hard work. it is your business. looking inside of this i started to go through your reports. you have 40 reports you will be releasing. one thing that jumped out at me, but one of the biggest, bill clinton paid himself and

collected payments from something called laureate, $15.5 million. >> in a foundation, you're not actually allowed to mix for-profit work with non-profit work. you're not strictly allowed to do it. bill clinton from beginning taking payments from donors and speeches, hillary clinton taking payments and speeches for business activities not disclosed in the financial filings from the foundation the way they need to be. last week "the wall street journal" had a big piece about a $2 million investment was a private deal arranged through the global initiative. this is a far bigger thing. this is a multibillion-dollar deal that was in trouble, agreed to prop itself up by hiring bill clinton as chancellor for the for-profit system globally. melissa: sounds like trump university. >> it is way bigger. melissa: is it illegal and

fraud? that is you one of the major themes here, the idea they mixed for-profit business with their non-profit company and also government influence, what would you call that? is it fraud, is it illegal, can you go to jail, what is that? >> there are various aspects to the set of illegal activities. operating and solicitation frauds, those are easiest things to understand. when you have a charity and soliciting in states and foreign countries you absolutely have file truthful disclosures and can't slough it off on accountants and executives. trustees are responsibility to do that irs and you need tax audits. clinton foundation has never got compliant audit did. melissa: that is required everywhere. everyone gets financial audits. they're not doing that you say there were disclosures on one side how much people had given and disclosures from the foundation about what they had been given didn't match. what do you make of that? >> this is big stuff.

gets to the heart of the controversy, lois lerner controversy. irs has all of this information. they have extensive files. when you have a foundation and you make donations you have to list out in your filings who got the money. similarly, you have to list out in these filings for irs only, not for public, who gave you big donations. so anybody in irs, i did this myself, i'm one person. it has taken me 15 months. i took big donors, big governments, the big foundations looked in their fillings compared to what they gave to the clinton foundation to what the clinton downdation says they resieve in press disclosures and there are massive discrepancies. melissa: final thing, they only give, this is something i own always get stuck on, only use 10% of their budget toward charitable good works. rest of it, 33% to salaries and benefits. 47% to all other expenses which raises the question is this even a charity?

isn't that the essential question. >> that is absolutely essential question. you can't say, can't form a charity to go off to europe. you have to have a specific tax-exempt charitable purpose. there is no evidence that the clinton foundation was to prove anything other than a library and research facility in little rock. melissa: wow. amazing. i hope you come back. there is a lot of legs here for this one. david. david: if i had a non-profit like that i would have a hell of a profit. despite long odds there is push within the republican party for third party candidate alternative to donald trump. who is behind it and who they want out in front. strategy the same way to create a financial plan built to last from generation to generation. we'll listen. we'll talk. we'll plan. baird. and if you have afib - an irregular heartbeatls. that may put you at five times greater risk of stroke - they can pool together in the heart, forming a clot that can break free,

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melissa: efforts to recruit third party candidate r underway, but republican chairman reince priebus warn this could have a severe consequences for the country's future. >> this is suicide mission because you're throwing down not just eight years of white house

but potentially 100 years on the supreme court and wrecking this country for many generations. melissa: here to weigh in, adolfo franco, former john mccain advisor, hadley heath from the independent women's forum. adolfo, what do you think is reince being dramatic here or is it that serious? >> no, i think he is spot on. i think it's a double suicide mission though. it's a suicide mission for the republican party if there is another candidate. obviously there is already another candidate. libertarian candidate, former governor gary johnson on the ticket but you know speculation about it being individuals such as governor kasich or third party candidate, apart from the logistical and procedural and money, all the other tremendous obstacles which make it impossible, it would only take votes from the likely trump supporters or others that would be against hillary clinton. and of course in the past we've seen it with ross perot, seen it with other candidates such as

ralph nader with al gore, would tilt the election for sure to hillary clinton. melissa: hadley, sometimes i have a hard time believing these stories. talking about mitt romney going out and doing this. do you believe this is a serious attempt? >> it's believable to me that there are some powerful forces on the right side of politics who are so disaffected and so turned off by the two front-runners, clinton and trump today, they might be tempted of running third party candidate but i would say really the solution this lies with one person and that person is donald trump himself. he can be a unifier and he can be open-minded. he demonstrated to be flexible about the policy positions. there are conservatives and establishment republicans who have a lot to learn from the trump phenomenon. by the same token and trump supporters and donald trump should listen to the voters as well. melissa: call me cynical. i think this story very much benefits donald trump. >> it shows.

melissa: people within the establishment out there refusing to accept him. it allows the narrative to continue he is outside candidate which benefited him so much. doesn't this -- >> sure. melissa: people really doing that aren't they just helping him? >> they are helping him because it is perceived, i think probably correctly, we don't want to accept the the will of voters and will of the majority of republican party denying him presidency or in fact defacto the nomination but putting up another candidate that is conventional candidate. but the fact of the matter is, there is a lot of concern in the republican party among conservative. melissa: sure. >> there has been too much flexibility on these issues. he has been everything to everyone at different times in his life. even during the course of the campaign. so the trepidation is not that his inflexibility. it is fact we're not sure what the bottom line proposals and policies would be. melissa: yeah. >> that is why this continues to be discussed and fueled in terms of possible alternative.

melissa: hadley, every time these stories crop up mitt romney is always at the top of it. they said may 5th he was talking to "the weekly standard"'s bill kristol about his inches influence maybe doing something. do you think this is a lot driven by mitt romney or someone, kind of already lost, well he is not going to run again, might as well-put him out as the front person on this, if it's a suicide mission, i don't know, he doesn't have a lot of political future himself anyway? >> well there are several prominent republicans who would be classified in that so-called never trump camp. one of the problems facing the republican party right now they have been out party for almost eight years. when you are the out party, you don't have spokesperson who speaks for entire party. look at last presidential candidate for voice of the party in some respects. >> thanks to both of you. appreciate your time. it has been interesting one to watch, that's for sure. >> thanks. david: getting more interesting all the time. what is happening in vegas isn't

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david: protests breaking out at the democratic convention in nevada after 64 sanders supporters were denied opportunity to be heard about it delegate selection committee. anger over the party's delegate system could set the stage for messy convention in philadelphia. here to weigh in on the convention chaos, fred barnes, "weekly standard" editor and richard goodstein, democratic strategist. how will the democrats put out this fire? >> it's a bit of wishful thinking to something this is

what philadelphia will look like, david. the fact of the matter is, hillary has a huge delegate margin, pledged and superdelegates and you know what? the fact the winner of the huge majority gets to kind of pretty much dictate the platform and how things are going to go. david: okay. fred, let me get fred in here, because richard of course is a baby he doesn't remember 1968. you and i are old-timers. we do. >> thank you. david: the left in the democrat party was extremely frustrated because they lost with eugene mccarthy. robert kennedy was shot. they ended up with humphrey who was a moderate that led to craziness in chicago which is where their convention was in 1968, really riots. cot same thing happen this time? >> i don't think so. you don't have the vietnam war going on at the time. david: that's true. >> david what you're getting at is this -- david: by the way what we're looking at right now, forgive me, fred, we're looking at video of 1968.

that is chicago of 1968 for those that don't remember. >> i do remember. anyway, look the democratic fight has been more raucous, bitter than the republican battle for the presidential nomination. this nevada thing, here it is we're getting toward the end of that battle on democratic side and it is getting worse. and i don't think that the clinton people are sure of winning all the platform fights because you're going to have, i don't know whether you call them trojan horse delegates or not, there will be a lot of delegates who are on hillary's side who will actually like more left winger agenda than she may want. david: richard, you may be right, fighting may not go all the way to philadelphia but when will it turn around? fred is right, it is getting nastier, i'm wondering whether it will be soft and cuddly? >> that will happen just like hillary clinton figley and literally put her arm around barack obama after last primaries --

david: wow, that long? >> you know why? she is the last person to begrudge somebody going to the bit every end since she did the same thing. david: exactly same thing? she has much bigger lead now than obama ever had. sanders people really mean what they say, caring about climate change and labor rights, civil rights, there is no contest. david: we have to wrap. fred, do you think sanders supporters will vote for hillary, all of them. >> no, i don't think they will. i don't think there will be a hug after california primary on june 7th. david: okay. >> look, bernie's people are deadly serious. they still think there is outside chance they can win this at convention. they will fight on all the platforms and rules and everything else. david: we have to leave it at that. fred, richard thank you very much. >> sure. melissa: interview we've all been waiting months for, megyn kelly sitting down with donald trump. we have a sneak-peek that is coming up. david: oh, boy.

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deirdre: -- melissa: megyn kelly highly anticipated ensear view with donald trump airs tomorrow night. >> you said you didn't feel the moderators were nice. do you think it is journalists role to be nice to presidential candidates at a debate? >> fair. >> but you used word nice. >> okay. no, i don't think so. i mean i might have said they weren't nice that doesn't mean they have to be nice. i've known many -- >> you know it is not a cocktail party. >> no. in a certain way what you did might have been a favor because i felt so good having gotten through, i said if i get through this debate with those questions you can get through anything. david: that is just a piece of it, folks. you can catch the full interview on megyn kelly presents, new broadcast, fox broadcast network, 8:00 p.m. eastern tomorrow. i would have loved to be there at first meeting. melissa: she was on "outnumbered" along with her

husband doug and myself. we saw some of the clips. a lot of surprising and revealing things. other guests on the show as well. it is on big fox, as she says, channel 5, 8:00 p.m. david: a lot of hand-holding. melissa: that was unusual. that was odd. what are you going to do? david: we like it. melissa: that does it for us. "risk & reward" starts now. >> fearful voices calling for building walls and distancing people they label as others, instead of building walls we can help people build bridges. deirdre: facebook founder and ceo mark zuckerberg meeting with prominent conservative leaders on wednesday in california. one of the attendees is my guest. this is "risk & reward." gizmodo published allegations that facebook has an anti-conservative bias in its news feed. mark zuckerberg says that is untrue and is setting the meeting as an exercise in best practices. my next guest is the first campaign aide we know is going.