him $100 million for two more movies? >> yes. and, again, i'm available. [laughter] stuart: throwing it out there. >> bond, my name's bond. stuart: excellent stuff. we're done with "varney & company," but neil cavuto's right there. neil: my story had to be the bunker dude. i'm telling you. [laughter] be that doesn't increase the paranoia the world over -- [laughter] daniel craig, he could afford a few. great job, stuart, thank you very much. all right, we are focusing not only on what's going on with egyptair, what the heck happened to it, but the mixed signals we are getting out of greece, out of france, out of egypt. egypt says wreckage has been found, the greeks come around and say, well, that's what the egyptians are saying, and then the french, they're not saying anything. yesterday they were hot to trotta call it a terrorist incident. now they're dialing that back. if you are confused, you are not alone. and here's the problem, you have

multiple countries with presumed jurisdiction in how this is all handled. not only the recovery of that wreckage, but getting to the bottom of what made it wreckage. connell mcshane now with the very latest. >> reporter: well, it would appear, neil, the egyptians are taking the lead, but you can never be too sure because there are a lot of countries involved. what we know so far or what we're being told, yes, wreckage found. two seats, we were told earlier, from the plane were spotted in the mediterranean, and within the last hour egyptian authorities have confirmed that human remains, they say, have also been found. but there's still a lot that is not be known about all this, how this plane just vanished from the sky, how it did that or even why it did that. no confirmation by any means that this is a terrorist attack. there's no credible claim of responsibility that we know of. now, we look at a map of this search area, you get an idea of why so many countries are involved. the french, the plane took off from france, the greeks, it

appears to have gone down near greek islands. the egyptians who appear to have taken the lead, all of them dealing and trying to put together the information that we have, and also what we don't have. remember, the search is still on for the flight data recorders which would include the most important information. if history is any be guide, in terms of -- any guide, in terms of these situations in the past. we're left to look at what people think may have happened. we were told yesterday about the plane losing altitude, losing it very, very quickly, swerving, 90 degrees left, then this 360-degree turn right, a plunge of 15,000 and another plunge of 10,000 feet. but why? why did that happen? i mean, it could be according to some experts just the aircraft, pieces of the aircraft falling off and being picked up by radar as they were falling from the sky, we just don't know. we don't know if that tells us anything. 66 people were onboard and, again, we are being told that wreckage has been found and,

within the last hour, human remains also. there we are. neil: connell, thank you very much. connell will be updating us as the next two hours ensue here. when you're looking at images from across the world like this, to you less mind these long lines when you go to board a flight? probably not. a lot of folks are still not liking the idea of waiting up to three hours before they get on that flight. so so they convene sort of a powwow in chicago, ways to avoid that. i don't know if anything came out of that, but jeff flock with the very latest from chicago. jeff. >> reporter: well, number one, an apology, neil. peter neffenger, tsa administrator -- by the way, he did not have anything new with regard to egyptair. he did say everything is in place that he feels needs to guard against a terrorist act in this country, but nothing new, nothing has been changed as a result of what they have learned so far about egyptair. as to lines, however, they're

caught in between a bit of a rock and a hard place. something happens over there and you say, well, jeez, we gotta be careful. he did apologize for what happened here in chicago a week ago at midway airport. remember that with the line that went, i don't know how many football fields, it was crazy. maybe the longest line for security we've ever seen. he said they're sending more screeners here, they're going to administer screeners, more k-9 teams. and the mayor and senator dick durbin from illinois convened this panel, basically, to call peter neffenger on the carpet. here's what neffenger told reporters of after it was over. >> with respect to security, that is the most important job of tsa. and events over the past eight months have reinforced and reminded us that individuals and groups do remain intent on attacking the aviation system. our officers understand that, and they work very hard to protect you. >> reporter: rahm emanuel, the mayor of chicago, saying the

problems that we're having now are knowable, were knowable and were avoidable. pulling no punches. here's what he had to say after the meeting. >> security is paramount. we are reminded of that daily. but what tsa is supposed to do is protect the flying public from, obviously, threats of terrorism. but because of the way the system is now run, it's become a safety and security issue at our airports. so it's turned itself upside down. >> reporter: there is currently a threat for chicago to privatize security here at o'hare as some other airports have done. atlanta's got a request in as well, but mayor emanuel saying today it takes two years to get a private security firm up to speed. so for now we're stuck with the tsa, and there could be lines this summer. neil: all right, jeff, thank you very much. we have a former trial attorney for the faa, mark, what do you think of this idea?

privatize the darn thing. it does take a while to do that, but what do you think of that option? >> well, i think in many respects, neil, we're talking about going back to the future. if you recall prior to 9/11, airport security was the responsibility or passenger security was the responsibility of the airlines at each airport, and they together hired a single security company. and this was true throughout the united states. there were multiple security companies at different airports. once 9/11 occurred, the tsa was created. so now we're, in a sense, coming full cycle. and because of the problems we're experiencing, the talk is back to the privatization. we've got privatization at about 20 airports throughout the united states currently. but i think the problem is fundamentally much more than the long lines. i think the tsa has become a behemoth bureaucratic organization, and i think there really has to be some fundamental changes in it be it's going to continue in the

role of providing security for us. neil: you know what i notice, mark, is that there's no consistency to the tsa. in some cities and locales topnotch, in others, you know, less than reliable. rules that we thought applied nationally about taking certain things out of your bag don't apply on all sites at all times. so i think it's gotten to -- so big, so unwieldily that even keeping to a basic set of guidelines has been lost. i don't know whether more officers are the answer, leaving aside the privatization option, but just better officers. what do you think? >> i think that's part of it, neil. i think you're exactly right. and i'm not sure that consistency from airport to airport is necessarily the answer only because one size does not fit all. the airports have different configurations, they have different numbers of passengers, they have different rush hours depending upon which airport it is.

but i do think there have got to be fundamental rules and standards put in brace. if we -- put in place. if we look at the faa in terms of oversight in the aviation industry in terms of safety, one, we have the safest airline system in the world in the united states. but the faa doesn't fly on every airplane, it doesn't fly the airplanes. what it does is it has fundamental rules in place that it views as minimum standards, and then it expects the airlines to implement those rules and, in fact, in almost all instances the airlines go beyond those rules. and they've got inspectors out there who inspect to make sure that the airlines are doing their job. neil: yeah. >> the result is the safest system in the world. the question that i would ask is why don't we do the same thing in the context of airport security? neil: not a bad idea. almost too logical. but i do want to pick your brain a little bit on the inconsistent reports we get on disasters. thatthat shouldn't strike us as surprising, but just as egyptair

is saying debris has been sighted on the eastern mediterranean, we have planes flying overhead, the pentagon saying some navy p-3s over the region, and they can see nothing even resembling -- i'm not meaning to fault the egyptians over that matter, support what our guys are saying. but we're not getting consistent info. and i'm wondering if that is complicating matters when we can't even agree on a sight, debris, because that's after the fact, right? >> well, that's absolutely true. and i think you're raising the egyptair tragedy, and it's a really good example. one, just as a footnote, i can't help but observe that we're seeing a carbon copy of malaysia 370. neil: right. >> multiple countries involved, and it appears there's sort of some tension about

jurisdictional limits. we have reports of turns and inexplicable flight paths. we have sights of debris, and i could be talking about malaysia 370. there's a lot of politics involved. i think our history, the u.s. history involving egypt and egyptair 990 where our ntsing b concluded that it was suicide and the egyptian authorities completely rejected that -- neil: oh, i remember that. yeah. >> i think that what we are seeing here is geopoliticsen on an international level -- politics on an international level. and while everybody seems to be moving towards the terrorism, explosion explanation of some sort whether originated on the airplane or elsewhere, we really have absolutely no evidence. so, you know, it's speculation once again as it was in the early stages of malaysia 370. and i hesitate to say it again,

neil, but in the context of egyptair, it's back to the future once again when we look at malaysia 370. neil: especially, as you say, with so many countries involved. thank you very much, mark. good catching up with you again. >> thank you, neil. neil: in the meantime, we want to update you on this zika thing. nearly 300 pregnant women in the united states now known to have the zika virus. now, the president wants to convene a special powwow on this and about travel-related warnings, etc. the president's also indicating that all these zika-related cases appear to be travel-related whether the women directly or their husbands or boyfriends coming home. it's getting dicey. after this. show me top new artist.

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manchester, new hampshire. and it looked like they darted him -- or her -- and he's slowing down a little bit, or she is. but maybe she's faking it, you know? maybe she's just saying, go ahead, you think i'm -- anyway, i don't know where the bear came from, maybe a nearby zoo or something, but the bear's on the loose, and you're thinking what i'm thinking, what effect is this having on stocks, well, not much. they're still up about 100 points. and maybe, the bear notwithstanding, because bidding wars are alive and well. did you hear this latest one? the tribune publishing chairman, michael faro, was supposedly entertaining an offer from gannett. they upped the ante to buy the parent of the los angeles times and, obviously, "the chicago tribune." he comes back and says, no, no, no, we're not entertaining efforts from gannett, we want to

buy gannett. so it's confusing, which is why the bear left the compound, because the bear's just saying, are you kidding me? we'll update you on the bear. i think the bear's going to be fine. but they take their time, and that's rule one if you're going after a bear. make sure the bear is fully out before you try to retrieve. all right. donald trump is having a field day with these latest developments whether you're talking terror, the economy, issues that are signature issues for him, but this tweet this morning kind of encapsulated it. crooked hillary, quoting from mr. trump's tweet, looks presidential? i don't think so. four more years of obama, and our country will never come back. isis laughs. and, by the way, he's got some wind at his polling back here that show him leading on signature issues like terror, like the economy. charlie gasparino, you're watching this and saying -- >> i love, i love the bear

picture, by the way. [laughter] neil: isn't that amazing? i thought it, first of all, was you in a bear outfit. no, it's not. >> ono, i'm a cross-dresser like a bear. neil: sure. [laughter] maybe run to your report. >> listen, donald is clearly -- listen, here's how you know he's catching fire, here's how i know to some extent right now is my 11-year-old nephew said let's make america great again the other day. [laughter] why that is, i don't know, his parents aren't big trump supporters. he's resonating. i would say he's benefiting largely because hillary clinton is so distracted with bernie sanders. she's actually being attacked by two people right now, and that's the problem that she has. donald is able to get a boost because bernie's attacking her, and he's attacking her, and it's a lot of negative press right now as far as hillary clinton goes. now, the real question is after, you know, the democratic convention that's when, in august or july, right? neil: july, yeah.

>> that's a long time to be getting hammered by two sides. so this is where this race which looked at least initially like she could win and maybe win easy is, you know, you could see him really making gains, because she's being attacked by both quarters. remember, a lot of that is what hurt mitt romney. i remember, yes, the obama pac ads that attacked mitt romney as a robber-baron and, you know, there was one ad that he took health insurance away from somebody, and they died. basically, called him a murderer even though that wasn't the case, you know, that was, that was preceded by newt gingrich attacking him along the same lines. so remember, these sort of things stick, they hurt long run. it starts, you start developing an impression. and this is something that i think she has to like, tomorrow, try to get bernie sanders out of the race or make him the vice president or do something because she is going to be mortally wounded by this every

day attack. it hasn't hurt her too much on the fundraising side just yet. i mean, a lot of fundraisers are still flocking to her, particularly on wall street. donald, you know, the jury's still out whether he can get some big money. and that's going to help her in the long run, because she can bombard him with attack ads, and he really can't answer that. but in the meantime, you know, there's this lull where he's taking advantage of it. as we know, as we said yesterday, neil -- and you've pointed out a lot -- he understands how to sort of manipulate the news cycle better than anybody else we've seen in presidential politics. neil: absolutely. >> that's what he's doing right now. by the way, one point on gannett and tribune, isn't that kind of like midget wrestling these days? gannett, tribune. they're both worth like, what? neil: yeah, but it says something about print not being dead. maybe you leverage off the brands. >> yeah, but i would say this, listen, as a print guy, i hope you're right. neil: right.

>> but i would think private equity would be in here faster if they could spin this thing out and do something. this is, this seems like the last sort of, this is the death shivers of this industry, i think. really -- neil: no, it's a clever strategy to come back at gannett and say, well, we might buy you. >> how are they going to buy it? neil: who knows? >> who's going to finance 'em, you know? neil: i just threw the story out. i have no idea. i'm worried about the bear, i don't know about you. [laughter] >> i am the bear! neil: you are the bear. all right, if only we could dart you. [laughter] thank you. i'm kidding. >> i love you. neil: charlie gasparino, thank you very much, my friend. i think the bear is okay. you were worried about the bear. the bear is okay. but we were getting a tweet from donald trump on the bear -- no, i'm kidding. [laughter] it takes nanoseconds for that guy. as you know, hillary clinton is claiming victory. the nomination is hers, and it is close in hand. but could she seal the deal by

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neil: all right. they have tranquilized this bear in man chest or, new hampshire, i want you to be aware of that, but weaver finding out more. hours ago manchester police were warning residents of a sighting of a large bear spotted in the area. now manchester itself is a fairly urban area, but there are woods outside, so the bear could have come from there or from a nearby zoo, but they're not missing any bears at the zoo, i'm told, to again we're going to suppose he didn't take a cab to get there. get a load of this, the bear was recently seen in the area of mass road and varney street. [laughter] varney street. i mean, if he's looking or more some cheap entertainment for the

grandkids, just go to the zoo, varney. [laughter] but it looks like the bear will be okay. i hope it's okay. and they're handling its very, very well, cautiously. but that's a good word to the wise be all of a sudden a bear shows up in your neighborhood, be careful. which is what the authorities are saying. [laughter] and these markets, by the way, not showing any bearish signs. see how i tied the two together? basic cable, it's what i do. if people were worried that that was going to be a signature sort of a tipoff to stocks selling off, so far that's not happened, dave. i'm wondering what this market is telling you, the bear notwithstanding, about deal cans which apparently are still alive and well in this whole tribune and gannett thing. what do you make of the market right now, the fears that the federal reserve is poised to hike rates next month? what do you think? >> i think it's meandering, i think it has no particular direction, and i think there is clearly a high level of uncertainty on the political

side, but i think what the market's telling us today, for instance, is that political uncertainty isn't enough to scare it yet or that it's not focused enough on what it might be or that it simply thinks that hillary clinton is still the two-thirds likely winner and, therefore, there'll be enough status quo in there that they don't have to worry about it. that's my best guess. neil: you know, if you think about it, if the argument is the fed could be poised to hike interest rates because it sees the economy picking up steam, you would think that would be greeted favorably. but we've gotten used to rates so long for so long even with the last december rate hike, we don't let go easily, do we? >> e don't. and i -- we don't. and i think it's a bit of a statement of just how important the interest rate environment has been in pumping these values. it's a big part of the underlying value bill because there's no alternative for return, right? i mean, dollars are chasing equity returns because there's no such thing as an interest rate return right now.

so when you start to shake that foundation a little bit of easy, easy, easy money, then suddenly everyone says, wait a second, this is a whole different uniare verse than we've -- universe than we've been existing in, so what now? neil: you know, i think it was one district president, maybe the san francisco president -- i could have it wrong -- said not only one rate hike, maybe a couple of others to follow. now, that would be weird during an election year. not unprecedented, but it would be weird. would the fed dairiesing doing that? -- dare risk doing that? >> my guess is it's not like we're going to, you know, we've lined up four of them and we're going to go one, two, three, four. it's probably, you know, hey, if we do one and we don't get, and the earth doesn't quake, we'll try two. that's probably the game plan, if i had to guess. neil: any worries you have in the near term about the pace of deals, if those who make them hold off and wait to see how the

dust settles? >> no. look, i think, you know, there are certainly times in my business and market-watching career that deals have driven the market and that you truly felt, you know, this stock level or this level valuation is because everybody's literally waiting for the next deal, the next shoe to drop, and you knew there were tons of combinations to be had. i mean, you're watching the gannett/tribune thing, and it's an oddball because it's a big need media deal, but i don't get the sense this market is a deal-driven market. neil: dave, thanks for your indulgence with the bear story. you were right on top of it, my friend. the bear has been captured, i can safely say that. local authorities say there was very little resistance, which i'm happy to hear. they don't know where the bear will go after this or where the bear will call home. but seeing as among the cross streets were varney street, we

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the zika virus. they were probably a broad or their husbands or boyfriends came back from traveling abroad. he is calling for a vaccine and improved diagnostic test for zeke up. we need to get a bill to do the job of fighting zika over the next several weeks. if we do not do that, blame it on the republicans. i mean, whatever. in the meantime, whatever is going on for the search with this egypt airplane, we get reports out that say that they have discovered what would appear to be wreckage of the plane. some surveillance over that region. no, there is no such thing there. we have no idea. what we do know is we are a week away from the unofficial start of the summer travel season.

the tsa is bracing for a very long lines. if it keeps us safe, what is the harm of waiting three hours in a line. there are alternatives to that. though former northwest airlines ceo. you know, when these kinds of things happen, a long -- a lot of finger-pointing. blaming the airlines and their baggage fees. that is what has prompted this. i do know that very few are addressing the problems along the lines themselves. >> the last thing in the world you want to do is have a government telling the airlines how to run their business. i think you have the airlines figuring it out. this is a government problem. not an airline problem.

they are carrying the passengers. here is what i think, neil. the average worker is pretty even effective. i find them to be courteous and efficient. now i am in the hotel business. we predict the number of guests that we will have. we predict how many chickens we will have. neil: being go. you just hit on it. there is no peak pricing. no peak staffing. a time of the day where there is no one and then all of a sudden you realize there are more agents then you can count. there are a lot of empty aisles. i do not think that they assign their people. by and large solid. at the times they are necessary.

>> i noticed that, too. you will see people standing around. other times, they are screwing around. there is not enough. there are not enough lines for their luggage. you can solve that with good management. i think that that is what is lacking more than anything else. neil: you are right. they seem to know. retail stores do it. airlines do it. prioritizing this whole thing. privately ran enterprise at a given airport. i am not quite sure what the answer is. >> i do not think that prioritizing is the right answer. you do a pretty good job. they just have to do a better job of training their managers.

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neil: i do not know if you plan to be in the pittsburgh area today. uber. i do not even know how many are there. this thing is really happening. a lot of people swear by this. these are as technologically advanced as you can get. big rigs. i do not know. i get a little nervous. we write ron. the cofounder. former google product. good guy. you like this. big rigs can have them. works out just fine. explain how it is. self driving, just on a bigger level.

>> thank you for having me, neil. they came together to make our highways safer. making the highways safer in making trucks safer. the way we do that is offer a self driving hit. we can equip .any truck on the road. basically allowing it to elevate the truck driver. drive much safer in the very long stretches. >> leaving aside teamsters truckers. i always wondered with this type of technology. you have to keep up on the latest road changes. construction. they change on an hourly basis. do these vehicles do that? >> absolutely. they are mapping the highway

system. 225,000 miles of those. going throughout the u.s. thousands of trucks going on the daily back and forth back and forth. you can pick changes in the roads much faster. the technology should be able to cope with anything on the road. we know and can pull safety aside. neil: what is there no driver? it is a matters of communities accepting it. endorsing it. something could always go wrong. space odyssey. it went nuts. right? >> for the foreseeable future, we see a truck reiber in that cab driving the truck.

it is all about making those guys job easier and safer. over 600,000. neil: a lot of these guys are on the road constantly. they get tired. could they sleep on the truck? >> driving 70% on the roads. we want our stuff to arrive today or yesterday. those guys are being asked to overload, under sleep. only nine hours a day. 247 from the same area. neil: they say you are trying to push them out of a job. you say what? >> it is about making them safe. about making the truck driver, having to stay 200 days away from their family.

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neil: a very busy week for donald trump. overcome the doubters. supreme court takes off. meeting with some tough economists. one hour spent with henry kissinger. the likely republican nominee said to address the nra in just a few moments. peter barnes with the latest. winning over some doubters. >> that is right. gun owners in the nra. trump has shifted his views on gun control over the years. he hopes to go to this conference in louisville. the second amendment. he once supported the ban on assault weapons. rivers that earlier this year in a debate. wanting to and gun free zones.

setting up a very large contest. he has vowed to take on th he was trump last week. >> protecting our second amendment. so important. so, so important. as far as hillary is concerned, she wants to abolish the second amendment. i really believe she wants to abolish the second amendment. >> we are hearing that he may get started at 130 or so. a little bit early. let's take a look. both smith & wesson and stern ruger are trading down. outdoor started trading last year as a public company. it is down after hitting a new high. neil: for those companies, barack obama has been just fine.

just the threat of using up on gun sales. increasing gun sales and their business. >> that is right. just on that is negative order to try increase background checks and other measures to try to institute more control as he wraps up his administration. neil: to your point, that is some that they want to hear. peter, thank you very much. have a good weekend. a lot of republicans still are not too keen on donald trump. there is this other libertarian ticket. along with johnson and the former governor of massachusetts. i want to get a sense what she makes about. i want to hear what he had to say to describe how this ticket is different.

maybe they have been looking around and it is right beneath their noses. >> a little bit more comparable having to, two-term governor's that low for the economic conservatives and cutbacks a lot. government in blue states and both social liberals. we have about half of what the republicans have. half of what democrats have. social tolerance and freedom and moderation. >> we will be the adults in the political realm. what do you think of that? >> i think that the american people are tired of them telling them who the adults will be. as far as a third-party run, there are all sorts of rumors flying that there may be groups of people looking for additional people to run. we still do not know what is going to happen on the

democratic side. right now, the two presumptive nominees are hillary and donald trump. so far, there has not been a viable third rd candidate that is big enough to compete with hillary and donald trump. neil: the argument is that sometimes they could be defective if they deny anyone as a third-party. 270 electoral votes that they would be. oddly enough, that ticket has a chance. what do you think of that? i think that it is a hail mary pass. >> the people that are elected, the congressmen that are elected, will do what the majority of the people within their congressional district wanted or their state wanted. to think that the house representatives is going to save us, all we have to do is look at the past six years.

neil: another thing about this third-party is that it takes equally away from democrats and republicans. i never buy that kind of talk. i always think that it hits one party more than the other. ross perot in 1992. help pass that. i think that george wallace's president. it hurt hubert humphrey. i could be wrong. it is really equal. what do you think? >> i would imagine that democrats may say the same thing in 2000. a third-party can make a difference. it was decided by a million votes in six states. that is really what it boiled down to. it could make a difference. right now, i am not hearing a

lot of people saying that they are really lining up and clamoring to get behind gary johnson. i have not heard any other names that have emerged that will be able to compete with, trump and hillary clinton. we will see what happens. one thing is that it is anything but predictable. it is hard to tell what will happen between now and november. it will be between hillary and donald trump. >> we shall see. thank you for taking the time. how did we go from zika not being a director at a couple weeks ago and now reports that close to 300 women, pregnant women, are carrying the zika virus. how did that happen? not how they became pregnant. [laughter] you know what i mean. [laughter] after this.

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neil: all right. i want to take you to louisville, kentucky. this is were the nra is having its big pow-wow. donald trump speaking to the group. by and large they like donald trump. some members concerned he gave inconsistent on guns, reining them in, background checks, that sort of thing. trump expected to nail that all down to clarify he is big supporter of the second amendment and that he will continue to support bun rights. that is largely what they're expecting to hear. he is expected to speak in the next half hour or so. meanwhile want to update you on the search for egypt air flight that crashed more than 24 hours ago. they really don't know. there is confusion about wreckage. we're hearing confusion from the egyptians of wreckage being found. we had surveillance planes from the united states supposedly

where wreckage was discovered. we haven't seen any indication of it. the greeks are nearby, this is near a lot of greek islands, including crete, what have you, they are saying if egyptians are saying wreckage has been found, wreckage has been found. french are not saying anything. they're dialing back talk of terrorism. no less than president hollande was hinting at yesterday. they're not even commenting on wreckage or no wreckage. bottom line nobody knows what happened to this thing. all we know 66 people are dead. we'll keep you updated on all that but inconsistent response from a lot of countrs that have a role in this, it is making it a little bit dicey getting accurate information. we have former state department official. christian, i understand the confusion that comes with this because a lot of countries are involved and egypt, case of history of egyptair, a lot

accidents and a lot of problems. who should i believe? >> egyptians have mixed record. we're familiar with more recent terrorism of a plane departing from egypt. in 1999, a egyptair flying from jfk crashed ultimately on its way to egypt. it was thought the pilot or copilot caused that intentionally, sort of a personal jihad. the egyptians tried to cover that up, or certainly down play toward mechanical failure. our own ntsb said it was not a mechanical failure. it is disconcerting all countries we're allied not in remote part of indian ocean where malaysian airplane thought to crashed but in a tremendous amount of commerce and military focus and we can't even find wreckage. don't even have the most basic information what happened. that is all a little troubling. neil: how does it work in these situations, christian, where so

many countries have a role? if it occurs in greece, greeks are involved. over egyptian airspace, egyptians are involved. paris, over france, i understand that. u.s. involved in american role but you can have a lot of chefs in the kitchen, right? >> you can and there less of an american role here. thankfully no americans were on the manifest at the last report and also it is aircraft manufactured in europe by airbus, not by us. neil: true. >> nonetheless the skills we have doing this and fact we have such a strong military relationship and because this is in international waters it tend to falls not to police forces but more to military capabilities. also europe, a lot of nato is known to skimp on some of the less exotic but important military capabilities, airlift and like reconnaissance, things of that nature that would be

useful in this case. often people welcome a u.s. role. it is unclear. egypt will not be we coming of anything if it is terrorism. people are speculating, including donald trump, it terrorism. they're not welcoming of that they're hoping it is something else. neil: christian, have a good weekend. >> thanks, neil. neil: a lot of leisure and airline related stocks were getting hammered yet. knee-jerk reaction, even though predictable reaction easing up a little bit today. a lot of issues are mixed. some are coming back. market coming back thanks to triple digit advance today. we're just barely in positive territory on the week. i say that is important because we had three down weeks in a row and a fourth down week would not be created favorably. for technicianses read into that a sign, people are fetting tired of all that. growing concern that the federal

reserve will raise interest rates. that is both a fear and welcome development a fear, because you get used to rates near zero and welcome development if it is happening because the economy is picking up steam. jeff saut is market person extraordinaire. it is interesting looking at this, jeff, what would you make of a market down for a fourth straight week or a market this week that was looking at the one-year anniversary of the record in the dow and as yet to hit a record this year. worrisome? >> not to me. i think what you've been going through for the past 18 months has been a consolidation. the market is basically range-bound between roughly 1800 and 2130. it is consolidation after better than 200% rally since the march '09 lows. our model which targeted the february 11th low this year, we pushed a lot of chips out on the table and when the s&p 500

didn't follow its brethren, s&p total return index to new all-time highs four or five weeks ago, it had a polarity flip, suggesting a downside move into late last week or early this week. on timing basis we think markets are bottoming here. the model suggests the bottom should come around 1990, 2000. we corrected in terms of time but haven't corrected enough in terms of price. neil: still aways to go you're saying on at least the downside? >> maybe but i do not expect a big down move here. i thinkdown to 1990 or 2,000 is all you would see on the downside. neil: i had one analyst, probably not as articulate as you, few are, who said this is just going to be a scatter market, neil. by that say, bounce in and out of a like a 200-point range, referring to the dow. that's why you will not see any record this year. that is why you're waiting almost over a year since the last record.

what do you make of that? >> i again think it is consolidation. we actually think you saw the low print on gross domestics product with the up half a percent. we think earnings are going to improve in the back half of this year and economy will get stronger. i do not expect the federal reserve to raise rates before the presidential election. i think the -- neil: really? you don't think this talk of a rate hike next month is right? >> i think it is the same noise you heard coming into this year where most of the talking heads were saying you would get four rate ratchet this is year. if you play the tapes on fox business here at the beginning of the year i was one of the few people said i would be shocked if you got more than two rate rises this year. neil: your argument it is dicey to do in election year but the other the evidence isn't compelling enough to do it, right? >> yeah. the economy is recovering but it's recovering at the slowest

rate, i mean i went back to 1872 when the dow started and i can't find any period in history where you have had four years of average 2% gdp growth that has not been accompanied by a recession. so the recovery has been very muted. i think that suggests the fed is not going to raise rates until after the election. neil: jeff saut, thank you very much. good catching up with you. >> my pleasure, neil. neil: all right, just think about it now. you've got what appears to be or could be a terrorist incident that brought down an egyptair flight. now you've got these additional zika cases, almost 300 women who are pregnant women, who contracted that virus. you got a lot of squared people and a -- scared people and a lot of them are saying you know what? i will not travel. how about that? we have a nurse extraordinaire, trying to calm nutcases like me down. i'm hearing this erin, great adventure doesn't seem like a

bad option to me right now. what do you say to people? >> unfortunately virus,s like this mosquitoes, they don't follow political boundaries. we're seeing them creep up as weather warms up. we're seeing them inch towards florida and u.s.-mexico border. unfortunately even americans ar. what we really need to do now is get a plan in place. we need to get the house and senate to agree how much funding to allocate towards prevention and control of the virus here at home because it is growing, it is coming, and as the weather gets warmer, as we near summer we'll see some outbreaks of this. we need to keep them small and keep them localized and have a plan for responding. neil: it is likely, i heard scattered reports of this, erin, you probably know better, in fact you would know better, the vast majority of these women contracted virus from husbands or boyfriends returning with the

virus themselves from abroad, presumably latin america. what is the danger to them, to their babies? can you update me on that? >> yes, certainly. so the major risk with zika ising for pregnant women is because it causes congenital birth defect we call microcephaly. it is essentially underdevelopment of the brain. they are born with a very small head and typically can't lead to normal lives and often results in death and significant bert defects. the disease does not cause significant symptoms in when, non-pregnant women. in fact many people don't even know they have it. we're looking to protect pregnant women here. that is our main focus. neil: for those babies, how, what is the likelihood that just the mother having this virus means that that child's life is, is compromised or in danger? >> right.

we aren't sure yet exactly what percentage of mothers who get the zika virus will give birth to a baby with one of these birth defects. what we're seeing about 29%. about a third of these mothers. neil: wow. >> it is much higher than we originally thought. we're seeing not only does the virus affect unborn infants in the first trimester of pregnancy but can begin anytime in the pregnancy t can lead to birth defects and can lead to miscarriage. the virus is more dangerous than we originally thought when we saw it break out in brazil. we're learning more and more as it continues to develop. unfortunately the statistics we're seeing are much more serious than originally thought. neil: wow. scary stuff but looked nothing like this last week at this time. neil: erin tolbert, emergency room nurse practitioner. >> thank you very much. neil: we're taking you out to louisville, we're awaiting donald trump addressing a large

nra gathering. nra like donald trump, don't be confused about that some are concerned about his concerns on background checks or they want to hear it all clarified. they are big fans of his. they will spell it out and try to shore up that base. in fact he had a busy week doing so, trying to win over conservatives with his list of potential supreme court candidates, trying to win over economic doubters by starting to assemble a economic team, likes of which include larry kudlow and steve moore, others to follow. having better than one hour session with henry kissinger at henry kissinger's apartment. he is dotting the is. he is crossing the ts. why is it so many he other gop voters are still saying anyone but him? after this.

neil: sometimes i think president obama is obsessed with donald trump. he constantly mentions him. so the whole zika thing comes up with the president talking about how we need more funding, among some of the other remarks he makeses in this quick oval office address, we can't build a wall to keep out zika. really? i don't know. that sounded like we obsess a bit much. meantime, this issue with donald trump does keep coming up, whether it is the president who seems obsessed about the guy and the fact ironically he is leading in national polls now when the president all but dismisses him as a laughable candidate. whatever your personal views about him that has changed apparently and the fact, even those who are bucking donald trump within their own party,

now seem to be rallying around. word mitt romney given up his quest to find a third party alternative. there are apparently no takers. so, now we got a former chris christie fund-raiser. dave, it looks like, i don't know, anyone but but trump movement has stopped moving. what do you think? >> well i think that's accurate and thanks for having me back on. if someone told you three weeks ago we would no longer be talking about a contested convention and it would seem as if all the national political leaders here in congress but across the country were united around donald trump that would have seem like something that could not have happened in such a short. >> you're right. >> you contrast that with what is going on in the democratic party where there are concerns about events and violence and there are concerns about what their convention is going to look like and it is frankly remarkable what a difference two, three weeks --

neil: i was among those. only thing i can say in my favor, as i cling to any good press i get, i was looking at contested convention at very beginning when we had 70 candidates in the race just on mathematical basis. that isn't the case right now. democrats could be in the heap of family squabbles. if you don't mind indulging me, president talking about the zika virus threat and 300 pregnant women are carrying the virus and going on what seemed to be a tangent saying we can't build a wall to cope out zika. i'm saying regardless what you think about donald trump is that a venue to take a cheap political shot? >> well, i would suggest it is not but i think what you're seeing and what you're finding particularly amongst democrats is all of sudden this frustration that donald trump is in a far superior position, not

only party unification perspective three weeks ago but horse race numbers. the poll your own station did had him three. more importantly looking at trustworthy numbers, nine-point advantage who is more trustworthy over former secretary clinton. you have a whole host of numbers put donald trump in much better position politically at a point where no one anticipated it. and not only is that, i think frustrating for a lot of democrats, including the president but also serving to be a tremendous galvanizing force and expediting the unification of the party. i think -- neil: i don't want to -- we have commercial coming. i don't want to cut you off. as former christie guy and i know trump was helping to raise money to get christie's presidential campaign debts out of the way, could you envision a ticket with those two?

>> well, you know, i guess anything is no longer possible, particularly in this political cycle but governor christie, who i have tremendous amount of respect for i think is really one of the talented and effective leaders in this country at this point and i think he would be a wonderful addition to whatever, you know, mr. trump would like him, if that would be a vice-presidential nomination, but i think he is well-positioned to play a helpful role. neil: his weak numbers in new jersey, record low approval ratings, certainly would be dicey to try to carry new jersey but, you think that governor -- >> no absolutely not. remember, remember, the democrat-republican split in the state of new jersey pretty much bears out to what those poll numbers are. so -- neil: he won new jersey twice. they were not what they were. >> right but this is more who is at the top of the ticket. you're starting to see a natural cleave where the natural split

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neil: well, happens every year, so it is not surprising happening this year. college kids graduating now with record debt, on average about $28,000, a little bit north of that. so you can understand concerted push on part of some of them, someone help us with these

college debts. there are candidates like bernie sanders and hillary clinton who said, we'll take over some of them. or all of them. so that is the debate. donald trump of course has said it is not the government's job to pay for your education, but it is the government's job to make sure those who are providing it aren't gouging you. somewhere in the middle might be the answer. who knows. existing home sales out surged unexpectedly, 1.7% in the month of april. furthermore backlog of homes a little more than four months that is pretty low. shows shrinking supply which could help the industry down the road or could it? let's ask housing expert tom booker. what do you make of that, tom? something you've been worried about is the fact actual homeownership has been declining, so what wins out? >> so, neil, thanks a bunch for having me on. i got to tell you, the housing numbers are a bit after so what. it is beginning after spring.

numbers should be up. housing starts should be great but the real challenge there are too many borrowers being left out of the equation. most of the homes, most of the mortgages are given to people with fico scores over 700. about 80% and those who don't meet that threshold can't participate. neil: isn't that a good thing, not to be callous? but to avoid the problems we had last time where people who weren't prepared to take on financial obligation of a mortgage were getting a mortgage and also not able to keep that mortgage? >> well, the problem we had last time, and i won't go into the myriad of circumstances that drove that, the problem we had last time was driven more by fraud than a set of actions related to expectations that weren't being managed in borrowers. the people we're talking about now are people who have been lived through the crisis, been out there eight or nine years renting, looking future where rent increases are going up five

to 7% a year and really don't have a way to participate. would i make argument, there is a way to get good loans under 700 fico score. neil: i'm sure that is right. would always defer to you on these matters. do you think it is psychological, tom? by that i talk to a lot of young people today who say i don't want a house or condo or townhouse. i saw what happened to my parents. i saw what happened to friends and families were who were thrown out of theirs or went into bankruptcy. no, thank you. what do you make of that? >> neil that is sentiment i can understand for a generation which my daughter was one of them. a lot what they're concerned about is exactly that. in addition they're concerned about mobility. they're concerned about a house being illiquid. there are real concerns but i would also add, that as they age, as they begin to form their lives, as they begin to have children, as they begin to need

to have a base to work from, there's really desire to try and find a way to own a home and one of the challenges as they pay off school debt as you laid out. neil: right. >> or as they begin to get their lives started. how do i find an entry point? i would make the argument if we don't getaway for them to enter, this is problem that could hit homeowners who are homeowners today now, because 20 years there won't be anybody to buy them. neil: you do want to sell your home. >> that is exactly right. neil: i hear you. have a great weekend. all right? >> thank you, neil. neil: very good read, tom booker. it is down to clinton versus sanders. sanders isn't giving up. hillary clinton says it is hers, why don't you recognize that? so this civil war, for lack of a better term is real, or is it? the democrat who says, you know, everyone just has to take a chill pill after this. ♪ in new york state, we believe tomorrow starts today.

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neil: some of you might be offended by name redskins, turns out nine out of 10 native americans are not remotely offended that the washington redskins are called the washington redskins. they're okay to with it, not to be remotely bothered about it and most have no opinion on the team name. the redskins have not changed the name. great pressure on them by likes

of harry reid and others to do so and they haven't. looks like now they won't. armed with this type of data, it is unlikely they ever will. want to keep you abreast of that. meantime, democrats are facing a civil war or at least a nasty convention and i have mark hand began, democratic strategist. i think i can settle this. i know you're worried about free advice on basic cable. i will help you. hillary clinton should put bernie sanders on her ticket. free advice. >> bingo. win all crossover voters and independents, get a socialist on ticket. i don't think that -- neil: which one is the socialist. you lost me there? no you don't buy that, we've seen crazier things, right? we're both way too young to remember 1960, when jfk hooked up with lbj. the idea was they didn't necessarily love each other but at least it helped jfk secure

texas and doubtful and leery southerners. ronald reagan hooking up with george burke, sr. who said -- george bush, sr., who said his economic plan was voodoo economics. there have been stranger things happened right. >> there is specific electoral strategy when that happens. like you said, jfk was trying to shore up the southern democrats when he enlisted lbj. i don't know what the up shot is for the clinton camp. there is ton of enthusiasm, no question, around bernie's candidacy but i don't think -- that those voters will peel off to vote for example, donald trump. neil: might not vote at all. if you want to keep them passionate. say what you will of bernie sanders, you know, trailing her mightily in the popular vote and in delegates, but, but, engendering a great deal of passion. you don't want to risk passion going somewhere else, right? >> one thing will have to happen if that is even conceivable,

bernie sanders will have to bow out gracefully when he realizes there is no path to victory. i think it is crystal clear to any objective observer watching right now. he is in a awkward spot right now, he ends up parroting, mimicking some of donald trump's talking points, criticizing hillary clinton reinforcing the trump campaign message and doing damage to hillary clinton. if he is going to reach out -- neil: waiting for her to be indicted, right? and he is last guy standing. however unlikely that might be. >> you heard what he said about hillary's e-mails. nobody cares about hillary's emails i don't think he is a realistic possibility. neil: i think it is in the back of their mind but i could be wrong. let me ask you about the mood of democrats going into convention. they want be to be unified. these things can change. conventions can get strange bedfellows and hugging each other by the time they leave. what if it is tense.

she wins fair and square with dedicated delegates, leaving superdelegates out of it. he is still smarting he is still angry and his supporters are still angry. what weren't down in nevada a microcosm how a lot of those folks feel. and they're angry. what does she do to alleviate that? >> no question. she has real responsibility to reach out to the supporters and build bridges to the supporters. that is tricky. we were supposed to be the guys with smooth, urnfied convention with everybody sort of lining up behind the front-runner and other guys, republicans were supposed to have this contested, ugly kind of convention. so it is, i have a lot of friends working in philadelphia, working for the convention. they have got enough challenges as it is with different logistics and celebrities coming in, delegates coming from all over the country. to have bernie sanders, to have this older, elder statesman basically shouting down the woman who is about to become the nominee, and have the national press corps training their cameras on her is challenge they don't necessarily need right

now. neil: mark, you're a calm, reasoned guy. i think what happens, both sides smart at what they feel is impoliteness or singers of the -- zingers of the other. hillary clinton folks think he bad-mouthed them. talking to jane sanders, week before last, his wife, they clearly feel that camp has bad-mouthed and hurt them. so i think they have to let bygones be bygones. i'm not sure, short of putting him on the ticket they will ever do that. >> look, it is politics. it's a tough business. people will insult each other but we don't want to be the side taking to that childish strategy of building yourself up by putting others down. neil: i love that strategy. what is wrong with that strategy. >> good for the playground. not good for dignified, if you still think politics is dignified. neil: you have to get over that notion, young man. >> listen i think hillary clinton has a clear path to victory. i think bernie sanders is a noble guy. he has been fighting for things bigger than himself. i think if he realizes --

neil: the only passion in your party. >> he is the only passion -- no, i don't think that is true. i think hillary's commune style is quite different. i think she is a little more reserved but i think she feels deeply about these issues as he does. neil: i don't doubt that. but when people talk about who they are happy to walk over broken glass for, her name is not coming up. >> the thing bernie needs to decide what does he want his legacy to be. neil: vice president of the united states. vice president of the united states. >> he brought his issues in spotlight that is productive and positive. at same time, neil young said better to burn out than fade away. that, woulds for rock stars. doesn't work for politicians necessarily. if he goes out in a blaze of glory. neil: neil young, really? neil young? >> you must be a neil young fan? neil: i remember lawrence welk.

and a one and a two. you see where i'm going. vice-presidential spot. >> i will pass it along to the strategist i know working for the clinton campaign. free advice from neil cavuto. neil: see how far that gets you. mark, thank you. awful traffic to get here. we very much appreciate that. mark hannah democratic strategist extraordinaire. stocks at a high today, even if that holds for the week gains that will be forth week we're down. latest on wreckage from that egypt air flight. in fact we're getting conflicting statements we're getting whether they even found wreckage. the egyptians say they have. virtually no one else is confirming that. that's a problem ♪ ♪ (charge music) you wouldn't hire an organist without hearing them first. charge! so why would you invest without checking brokercheck? check your broker with brokercheck.

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neil: moments away from donald trump addressing nra gathering in louisville kentucky. they love him there. they want clarification many solve many his positions gone back and forth not necessarily gun ownership but background checks. many nra members want clarification. safe to say they would vastly prefer he to hillary clinton with whom they have had run-s in the past. donald trump addressing them a week he is triesing to ease critics concerns trying to work on foreign policy with meeting with henry kissinger and economic policy with steve moore and larry kudlow. providing 11 names, 11 prospects would each be boffo picks for replacements for antonin scalia. jed babin joining us right now on what is happening have a world away.

we're getting conflicting stories, jeb. some say there is wreckage been found. that is what egyptians are saying. no one else is confirming that. that is part of a bigger problem. how can we believe from what the egyptians are saying? >> we can feel that the where we tracked it themselves. we have satellite photos of an oil slick. i heard that before. we will search in that particular area. we should have pretty good idea and they should have have a good idea where the plane went down. we don't know what caused it. seems like was terrorist act of some sort whether bomb or intentional crashing by the crew. anything is possible at this point. we flat don't know and we'll have to see how well they i expect the ntsb will be over there, probably fbi too to help with that investigation. neil: when you have a lot of chefs in the kitchen is would

have a role. nations would look at in this, greeks do, proximity to this, went down near the aisle land of crete. the french, of course it left out of paris, of course the egyptians, it could get confusing. >> it probably will. you describe ad typical nato or eu kind of function. they sit and talk and debate and disagree and a lot of times nothing gets done. will somebody get in charge. i suspect the egyptian. it is their aircraft and mostly their citizens. they need to be in charge and help them to perform whatever kind of investigations we can. the question whether they can even recover the so-called black boxes which by the way are actually orange. the issue if we get those, voice recorder and data record their will tell us what happened. what happened with the ship's systems. tell us what happened with the crew we can find out from there.

neil: it may be a while getting that. jeff, thank you. >> thank you. neil: we talked about donald trump preparing to speak to nra in louisville. one thing that comes up with donald trump. people say he will start a trade war, it will be end of world. donald trump doubles down, if your version of trade war to end the trade nonsense we have now. was that a childish response, a accurate response? or is that mr. trump's way of saying you don't like it, deal with it, after this. v ♪

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that is fairly consistent base of his. he has that, or some members who just want to get the is, dotted and ts crossed on positions on background checks. he normally white house an audience like this. this is his chance to nail it with them and he is trying to nail it with groups leery of him, trying to stop the anybody but trump movement. john layfield. how is he doing in that regard? >> i think he is doing a very good job coalescing his base around support. sometimes you need a common enemy to have people rally to you. i think that is what donald trump been good at rally against system or china with the tariffs of a for rip government. neil: says a lot things that rattle market guys. by two to one margin, all the business trade association types prefer hillary clinton which raised some eyebrows but their argument was not so much they loved her but they didn't know what to make of him.

how does he nail that traditionally republican base down. >> that is the what is unknown. mr. trump's weakest position is on trade. 45% tariff or some type of number on foreign trade from china, his ideas behind it were the fact that they're stealing intellectual property. the fact they're a currency manipulator. the fact they are losing manufacturing jobs has more to do with automation and efficiency. we tried tariffs before. 2009, we tried a 35% tariff. we drove purchases to other countries, indonesia, taiwan, mexico. that simply does not work. that is his weakest position. neil: his counter argument is not exactly playing by mark keys of queens berry rules. we have this half trillion dollars gap with chinese and host of could other countries we're presumably playing fair and we're getting gouged. that is his answer.

what do you make of that? >> he is a little off the number. half a trillion dollars total trade deficit. 366 billion when you talk about just china but idea is much more important than the actual number is. we're currency ma tip regulators as well with printing money and artificially low interest rates. neil: very good point. >> when you talk about something like foxconn produces i phones, they're talking about building 12 centers in india. like you saw with the chinese tariff in 2009, if we go after china, we'll have to go after all the other countries because these processes will just move to other countries. it is not really a fair system. the trade deficit not way to sigh imbalance between governments. neil: john layfield, very good catching up with you, my friend. >> thank you. neil: if you're getting tired what is going on here in our country and on earth, look to the heavens, look to the stars, look to mars. apparently it had oceans. it had tsunamis and three billion years ago it could have had life.

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neil: finally time for our what in the world segment. it is so new that even the rest of my staff as no idea about it. well, apparently they do. things that go way beyond this planet. including indications of mars. it had sued nominees. it had everything you need it for life. here is a problem. it was 3 billion years ago. what happened to all of that? dagen mcdowell and connell mcshane. connell: i want to thank you for having me on. i was reporting on another topic and they told me that they would not have time for that.

tsunamis on mars. i am there. i know all about it. what else could be out there. time flies when you are having fun. >> exactly. now, we are discovering these thousand plus other planets that are out there that could support life. >> does a really humble you, neil? almost thanking me for not having to be in the studio today. i want to point that out. neil: is that necessary? >> it is profound. some experts have not seen an ocean on mars because there has not been any shoreline. these images, this isn't scientific reports that we are studying.

evidence that a giant comet or a space rock plunged into this ocean and sent these giant older's up out. neil: these are the water bridges that we are looking at right now. connell: i am coming to this discussion late is why i asked. neil: dagen and i have it covered, connell. what do we make of this now? we are trying to get to mars again. it is too late. dagen: could sustain life in the future, i don't know. i feel like you need to get out more. you are so fixated on this. neil: it is about life. connell: i am thinking that dagen and i may not have been the right looking for this. [laughter]

neil: the people that have the knowledge base to handle this and appreciate the enormity of this -- dagen: i am the biggest nerd on the planet. neil: this brings us to donald trump. trish regan covering all of that and much, much more. trish: it could happen any minute. donald trump said to speak to the national rifle association any minute from now. he did one support an assault weapons ban, but has changed that position. what will he say today? donald trump said to speak at the nra's annual meeting in kentucky at any minute. we will bring it to you live. we await donald trump's appearance. this has a new fox poll says voters preferred trump to hillary clinton when it comes to the eight economy. the nations biggest issue right now is the economy. after eight years after