tv Cavuto Coast to Coast FOX Business June 2, 2016 12:00pm-2:01pm EDT
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civil wars will affect europe and, in turn, the u.s. stuart: dramatically so. morgan ortegas, thanks for the information on saudi arabia. >> you saved the best for last, right? stuart: absolutely. [laughter] we're flat out of time so, connell mcshane, the time is now yours. connell: good to see you. an all-out blitz to get donald trump from the democrats is what we're covering on cavuto coast to coast. over the next couple of hours, we'll be talking about, certainly, hillary clinton. she is, today, ability to make this big -- about to make this big foreign policy speech out in san diego. everybody's been saying it's expected to be, basically, a trump takedown attempt. the clinton foreign policy speech. but it comes just a day after president obama knocked trump's economic plans in a speech of his own. so they're hitting from all sides here against donald trump, and they're hitting him -- trump -- on the same issues that really led to his rise if you look at the polling. so will this blitz, as we're calling it, knock him down?
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we have melissa francis and ron christie lined up to talk about it. think anything sticks here that they're going after trump on? it's not just hillary clinton anymore. the president's getting involved. >> good afternoon, connell. no, i don't think so. i think donald trump's candidacy, if there's one thing we've seen, it's everything his opponents have thrown at him, nothing seems to stick. connell: right. >> and the thing i find ironic is she's going after him about his credibility when, as you know, he's not afraid to pull his own punches, she better be on the lookout for him to return the fire. connell: well, joe, you're the democratic strategist, and i think ron is right that a lot of these attacks have been stock. now, it's different, it's a general election campaign, but is hillary clinton ready for the, quote-unquote, counterpuncher as mr. trump calls himself. >> >> sure, absolutely. he's tried a couple of things, now i think he's regurgitating the lying tagline that he used for ted. apparently, anyone who talks
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about donald trump is a liar -- connell: well, she has issues with the honest and trustworthy stuff as we know. the polls all show that. >> there may be that there, and we could talk about that some more, but the truth is this is all calculated. none of this stuff is going to stick to him. it doesn't need to stick to him today, in june. what's going to be great is when donald trump gets to the point where he starts spouting off, and we'll remind voters in october before they make their decisions what this guy stands for. connell: i thought it was interesting, melissa, was the president getting directly involved in all this? trump's like, all right, i guess i can go after you too. add another one to his list. that'll be next, trump versus obama. >> without question. he loves targets. but i think this election really is about two sides who think the oh side's foreign oil -- the other side's foreign policy is completely dangerous. the clinton team as well as obama's think donald trump's
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approach would be incredibly dangerous because it's the opposite of their own. at the same time, people that support donald trump think the clinton/obama approach is very dangerous. look at libya. that brought in isis. you look at what's going on in the middle east, look at the deterioration of syria. you look at the way the president has stepped back from the world stage especially in paris and france and europe in the wake of these terrorist attacks. so the donald trump side also thinks the clinton/obama side is incredibly dangerous. connell: it does make you think, joe and ron, melissa's right. dangerous is kind of the word of the day. i think we'll hear it over and over from what we're told in this speech this afternoon, but the other side thinking same thing. undecided voters exist many this election too, but you wonder how somebody could be deciding between the two when one says one's crazy and the other one thinks the other's crazy. >> melissa's points are very
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strong here. donald trump is going to say this is going to be the third term of the obama administration. secretary of state clinton, on her watch, the world's gotten a lot more dangerous, it's gotten a lot more unstable. is that what you want? you're absolutely right, we're going to hear dangerous, risky. both campaigns are going to use the same terminology to try to paint their opposition in a bad light. but the question remains what do independents think? connell: right. what do you say, joe? >> well, i actually think all these points are very valid, and i agree with a lot of this where we're talking about, you know, what does the world look like eight years ago versus today. but the thing is this, i actually don't think foreign policy's going to be a big driver in this election. it's going to come down to domestic leadership and trust. and every candidate fights over this trust issue. and all we're doing here is muddying the water on the foreign policy front. we sort of discredit donald trump on that side, they want to go after us, and it becomes a domestic fight -- connell: trust, though -- >> i don't think -- [inaudible conversations]
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connell: go ahead, melissa. trust is an issue for hillary clinton. >> i don't think it has anything to do with trust because nobody trusts any politician -- >> but you're going to have to pick one eventually. >> the american public thinks every politician is a liar. they do care about their pocketbook -- connell: so it'll come back to the economy. >> absolutely. and who do you trust to guide the economy. again, it's the same kind of thing. the people who support trump think the clinton/obama team has done a terrible job, and the people who trust president obama and support hillary clinton think donald trump, you know, is going to bankrupt the nation the way he bankrupted his casinos. connell: the president really went after trump yesterday. we're going to talk about that in a second and also bring blake burman in on this. a quick piece of breaking news, the death of prince. we have just learned from law enforcement officials through the associated press about the death of prince, turns out tests are now showing it was an opiate overdose. so it was an overdose that killed prince. it is being confirmed by law
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enforcement officials who have talked to the associated press about that. it just crossed on the associated press wire there a few minutes ago. now, i made a reference to president obama. he did make a point yesterday in that speech be of defending some of his big government policies, but he also took a shot at, took a shot at fox. watch this. >> their basic story is america's working class, america's middle class, families like yours have been victimized by a big, bloated federal government run by a bunch of left-wing elitists like me. that's the story that's been told. and i haven't, you know, turned on fox news or listened to conservative talk radio yet today, but i turned them on enough over these past seven and a half years to know i'm not exaggerating in terms of their story. connell: i doubt he turned on fox news now either, blake burman, because the president is getting set to speak out in
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colorado at the air force academy. that said, we have add blake to look into some of the president's economic policies and comments. what have you found? >> reporter: hey there, connell. we took a look at the numbers, and there are certainly two different sides to this economic coin. on the one hand, the president and his administration, they can certainly -- and they do -- tout 14.6 million new jobs created during the obama years including 74 straight months of private sector job growth and a sharply-falling unemployment rate to a 3%. it's been -- 5%. it's been dropping ever since he got into office. however, a deeper dive shows the current struggle for millions all across the country. for example, when the president took office in 2009, the median family income was a little more than $57,000 as you see there and seven-plus years later it is roughly the same. so you factor in inflation, and that is moving in the wrong direction. taking a look at the labor force participation rate, it's the lowest it has been in decades
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and has been on a steady decline during the obama presidency. many economists contend that has been a big part in the decreasing unemployment rate that is now down to 5%. the president also claimed that he wasn't a, quote, big-spending democrat. this was part of his argument yesterday. now, critics would argue comparing spending to the last year of the bush administration when the government was addressing the 2007 financial crisis is an artificially-high comparison. however, spending hasn't been brought down at all to pre-crisis levels since, and when you look at federal outlays this year, they're expected to hit about $4 trillion. that is roughly a trillion more than president obama's first year in office. so, yes, the administration puts forward one side of the story talking about job growth month after month, the unemployment rate falling, but you look into it, and you can certainly make an argument on the oh side. connell: and you've given us that other side. thank you, blake. the other thing we would add to this, the president yesterday pushing more taxes on the rich to expand social security,
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insolvent by the year 2035. so as we go back to our famous panel here, melissa, joe and ron who are still with us, i'll go to you, melissa, on this first. expand social security? i thought we were supposed to get this in line. >> not only that, it's his own federal reserve that says this has been the worst recovery in history on record. i mean, that's quantitative. that's data. that's not an opinion. they're looking at the actual recovery in the terms of growth of the economy, and this has been the slowest, the worst, the most abysmal ever. that's the federal reserve, not fox news. connell: don't you think it's fair, joe -- [laughter] >> no. connell: why not? >> compared to what? >> why is that funny? compared to every other recovery in history. >> whoa, whoa, prior to to the great recession -- >> [inaudible] >> prior to the great recession we hadn't seen anything like that since the great depression. so i don't know where this condition -- >> right. and this is worse than that.
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this was worse -- ask the federal reserve. check your math. >> we're losing jobs. >> go get some data. stop talking, do some actual work. look at the data from the federal reserve. it makes me so mad when people get out here and try to push these points because you're just not bothering -- >> would you let me talk for five seconds? connell: go ahead now, joe. >> in 2008 your house was probably underwater, you were at threat of losing your job, and your 401(k) had been decimated. >> and it's amazing the economy bounced back from that. >> now you can find a job, unemployment is -- >> part-time at mcdonald's. >> we have rising incomes -- >> e don't have rising incomes. they just -- >> the stock market is doing better than it was. >> did you watch any of the graphics -- >> are you going to let me talk? connell: well, the stock market -- >> you don't have math -- >> thank you. >> up employment is down. >> blake burman -- [inaudible conversations] connell: the point, joe, i want to get ron involved in this too.
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ron, you can make a point, and we'll go back to joe on it. [laughter] i think the point melissa's making is the pace. >> but the pace is relative. connell: you should come back, in some people's estimates you should come back just as fast if not faster because you fallen so -- >> i just look at gdp growth. it's very straightforward. connell: ron, what's your thought on this? i don't know if you're going to break a tie or not. [laughter] >> i'm going to try. i don't know why joe's laughing -- >> it's not funny. >> 95 million people who are out of work right now who want a job. unemployment might be at 5%, but we know that's a joke. you're talking about part-time jobs, not full-time employment. this economy is bad. melissa's exactly right. you need to do the facts, joe. the fact of the matter is it's not fox news, it's not me, it's the federal reserve who says this is the weakest recovery we've seen on record. real americans are really struggling and obama to go out and take a victory lap for 5% and saying how great things are really shows how out of touch
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this administration is -- connell: to be fair, joe, it's okay, right? if you want to say we've come back, yes, better than it was, because it was awful. that's a different argument than to say it's the best and things are back on track. if that was the argument, you might give it to him. there are some fair points here as you were chuckling through it. >> no, no, i'm laughing at some of these statistics because when we talk about work force participation rates, the problem is four years ago when the economy was in recovery, and let's go back eight years, people couldn't retire. now the baby boomer generation is at retirement age. they couldn't retire then. the reason why work force participation is dropping is because one of the largest generations in this country is safely retiring now. and when they do that, they -- >> that's a small fraction of what we're talking about here. >> they're the largest, next to millennials, they're the largest work force in this country. >> there are more people that would like to retire but can't because they don't have any savings -- >> because it was decimated in '8. >> they would like to retire, but they can't.
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connell: if the recovery was stronger -- >> then they could retire. >> the recovery strength is relative to what we've seen in the past. >> it's less than. no recovery -- [inaudible conversations] >> we're not creating another bubble because every time we had recoveries that were fast, we created bubbles, and then they popped. look at the housing bubble -- >> a lot of people think there's a bubble in equities right now. connell: a lot of people think there are bubbles in part of housing again. >> there you go. connell: we'll wrap it up on that point. you do not want to grow too quickly in joe's point that you create bubbles. >> absolutely. a lot of people think we've created bubbles in equities to try and get the economy back on track. connell: no, that's true, and that kind of shoots down the point about the stock market being at 17, almost 18,000. thanks to all three of you, melissa, ron and joe. >> thank you. connell: live coverage, by the way, when all of this is going to be voted on. the california presidential primary and all the other
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primaries going on this coming tuesday evening. cavuto coast to coast starts at 9 p.m. eastern time. trish regan will be taking you through it, the coverage overall begins at 7 p.m. eastern. now, speaking of stocks and where they're going today, dropping a little bit. some news on oil about producers not moving much. at least not yet. what it means for you, especially when it comes to prices at the pump. we'll check in with phil flynn and jeff flock in just a moment. ♪ ♪
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dynamic duo of the commodities world. there they are. a lot going on today, right, gentlemen? >> because he's the brains of the operation, i'm just talking here. but you got a headline out of to opec meet, right? >> yeah. i mean, the headline was no action, but that's not the real headline. the real story is that they're going to monitor the market and maybe agree to meet again, and that's a lot closer to a deal than anybody thought going into this opec meeting. everybody said this was going to be a snoozer. turned out not to be. they almost had a deal done at this meeting, and they're probably talking about a deal -- >> so we were down 80 cents after the news came out, weren't doing anything, we now recovered and we're now positive. >> we have, you know, for a couple of reasons. number one, people believe maybe they can get a deal done in the future. we also saw the oil inventories today, and we saw u.s. oil production fall yet again. i think we've fallen 18 weeks in a row on u.s. oil output, and that's a sign that u.s. production -- >> we were talking to the president of ford yesterday, joe
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henricks, who said, yes, oil and gas exploration contracts have cut into their -- >> it is. the first thing people want to buy when prices are up, a new red truck. i talk to them all the time. but i'll tell you this, when we hear about what's happening in the energy industry, there's more contraction, more pain. we're saying rig counts continue to fall, investments continue to fall -- >> gas prices. >> gas prices are going up. but it's not all bad news. some of it is because of strong demand. we're having record demand here in the united states. people are feeling better about the economy, and they usually reflect that by driving more. >> so the economy's not as bad as some people make it out to be. a lot of times we hear guys on our air saying, oh, the economy's not recovering fast enough. it's actually, demand finish. >> if you look at it based on gasoline demand, we've got a roaring economy. some areas are doing better, but we're still not back to where we were. >> okay. there you go. told you, he's the brains. connell:@the dynamic duo. you're the set-up guy,
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play-by-play and -- >> yeah. i'm martin and he's lewis. [laughter] connell: something like that. the price is up a little, and gas prices, according to phil, are going up from here. now, hillary clinton has been hauling in the cash. we looked at some numbers that came in last month, but what are donors saying about her e-mail troubles? charlie gasparino is on it. and he's coming up after a quick break. ♪ ♪
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connell: all right. let's talk money and politics. that's what we do. now, if donors are worried about the clinton e-mail scandal, they kind of are a funny way of showing it -- of have a funny way of showing it. the clinton campaign brought in $40 plus million last month, and it already had that much on hand as well. we also have reports that bryan pagliano, the i.t. staffer that set up the home server for the e-mails, he's pleading the fifth. charlie gasparino's here, he knows everything about all this.
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i don't know if the e-mail scandal hurts her on fundraising or not. she has a lot of money. she's going to be all right when it comes to money. >> she's going to raise a billion to $1.5 billion. donald will be lucky if he gets $700 million, i would say, although i think he'll raise -- >> connell: yeah, but he gets all the free stuff and -- >> he makes up some of the difference with that, but still it's hard to make up free stuff when you get bombarded, okay? and it's a two-person race. you know, i would say this about hillary, i mean, she's in trouble when rubber meets the road on this e-mail thing. if any of this sort of background noise actually leads to an indictment or an fbi -- connell: well, of course an indictment -- >> or an fbi report or comey saying i recommend an indictment, it's up to you, that's where it gets really problematic for her, and that's where donald -- given the fact that he knows how to use the media so well -- can easily, through twitter and through his,
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through the way he knows how to manipulate stuff, he can probably generate, you know, hundreds of millions of dollars in free ads. but he needs that opening. and conversely, i think the democratic donors don't get nervous about her until something real happens on thing. now, i have reported time and time again that i know for a fact, because i've spoken to people close -- my law enforcement sources are telling me that the staffers at the fbi think she did something wrong. they think there is sort of evidence here. i mean, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out. connell: so they think or they want the director to move forward. >> they would like a charge of some type. connell: doesn't mean they're going to get it. >> doesn't mean throw her in jail forever, but if you look at similar cases, you know, the petraeus case -- connell: right. >> -- the kind of -- connell: that's the one everybody uses. >> it's a template. there are some differences, by the way. he was basically sharing with somebody else, do you understand what i'm saying? he was giving this person who
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wrote his book who was -- connell: yeah, mistress. >> paula broadwell, he was giving her some of this information. i don't know if they're really established that she was, you know, willy-nilly handing out stuff, but they were -- what they did establish is she was receiving stuff and maybe generating e-mails, you know, to her, to her staff from this private e-mail that was not secure. connell: now, there trump's point of view in terms of raising money, our inboxes light up with an e-mail -- >> i got one of them too. money from me. connell: yeah, right. hey, gasparino. it looks like -- >> hey, give me $35. connell: trying to raise money from trump. >> $35. connell: bernie sanders is 27, by the way. >> why doesn't he go up to 35? connell: i don't know. trump could have written this. it's not from trump's team, it's from the republican party, but they talk about we're going to start winning so much, you're going to get used to winning. >> and it's going to make your head spin.
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crom connell right! [laughter] so that, to your point, is why they are asking you, whoever, to contribute $35 and become a founding member. i don't know where they came up -- 27 is bernie sanders' number. >> he is actively raising must be. there was something where for p ten grand you can get your picture taken with him. by the way, i got my -- connell: i know, you tweeted out. >> for zero. you know what i said to get that picture? connell: what? >> i said i thought melania was beautiful. i did say that. not -- cm connell did he put his arm around you? every time charlie's -- >> that wasn't a few years ago. that was the fox business debate in mil connell: every time you're aa tacked on twitter, which you must spend half your day responding to them. >> not half. about a quarter. connell: i've seen it a million times. >> i think right now in terms of hillary if you want to know when this stuff will start hurting, it's when we see more -- some official action. her supporters or, and i talk to them all the time in new york, they think it's background noise right now.
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connell: they do. they all say nothing's going to come of it, i know. thanks, charlie, good to see you. a good focus segment, as usual. >> hey, $35. connell: so weird. [laughter] >> you know, donald trump is normal. i'm weird. what is this? connell: stay focused. trump's attack on the media, guess who's getting involved mow? dan rather. >> why? connell: just wait a second. st the tease. we're going to talk about it after the break. >> now i have to watch the show. connell: that's right. that's coming up. then we have this story on at&t ahead. if you have at&t if your house like this guy apparently does, you may have to pay for your wi-fi extra depending on how much you use. >> outrageous. connell: yeah. don't go away. ♪ ♪ my experience with usaa is awesome. homeowners insurance life insurance automobile insurance i spent 20 years active duty
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connell: so you know the nba finals actually tip off tonight. you know how we like to make every story a money story here on the fox business network. curry, the league mvp a couple years in a row, lebron has been in the past and he's still, by the way, lebron, king of the bank. read all these numbers fast and get back to us. now, the bottom number, from what i'm told, is the most important. here's the point. lebron james makes twice as much money as steph curry does. the top number will tell you
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that, but look at that bottom number. points -- money per the point they score, look at the right side of your screen, ten grand a point for lebron. you add it up, curry's only at 4200 a point. so i guess golden state's getting a bargain with steph curry, the best player in the league right now, and that's what they're paying him. it's also a nike versus under armour story. anyway, donald trump battling with the press. it may just be heating up. the other day it was as hot as we thought it was going to get, but now getting involved is dan rather x he's taken to facebook. he has a facebook account, and he logged into it, and he said: i felt a shudder down my spine yesterday watching donald trump's fuselage against the press. ooh. and it's a moment -- it is not a moment to be trifled with. get it straight. it wasn't his fist tirade, it won't be his last. but are the attacks justified? and is mr. rather on to something? chris bedford joins us from "the
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daily caller." by the way, chris, as dan rather's going off on donald trump on facebook, a lot of other people are upset with hillary clinton, and it's not because she's going hard at the press, it's because she's not going at them at all. she hasn't had a news conference in something like 180 days, 181 days as our graphic shows to be exact. i don't know who wins, who loses on this. you battle versus the press or don't talk to them at all? >> yeah, it's interesting. i see these fights between the press -- which i'm part of -- and donald trump's people happen all the time, and the press side says donald trump's guys are a bunch of thugs, and the trump side says you guys are a bunch of self-importantty v.a.s, and i want to say both of you are correct. connell: that's right! [laughter] >> you're all villains here, and the american public doesn't have sympathy for any of you. but dan rather has got demonstrable cases of bias against bush, but he's also risked his life to report the news from the afghan/soviet invasion.
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connell: very true. >> he hits the nail on the hate when he says we have a confrontational relationship with politicians, we're going to fight each other, and reporters need good bosses who stand by them and defend them while they fight and try to get the truth. and he's totally right. connell: i thought the other day the questions being asked by the reporters were fair. if you want to know where the money was -- at the time -- that's a fair question. but trump it seemed to me at least by the way he handled it with the regular person sitting at home, he kind of won there. he attacked the press and showed he was giving money to the veterans. hillary clinton doesn't play it at all, just doesn't want to have a news conference. >> yeah. no one's really worried at all about hillary clinton thing. you don't see dan rather taking complaints. we really lived this out at "the daily caller" when we dared to ask president obama a question when he was bypassing congress. now the reporters viciously attacked neil for breaking with
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decorum, but no one even noticed that obama didn't take a question from the press for the next two months. this happened in june 2012. if you read stories from july 2012 about obama taking questions, they're all about neil and how horrible he was, and no one even cared. connell: yeah. not about the fact that there weren't any questions. >> not at all. connell: 181 days is a long time. of course, there's stuff many people would like to ask her about. chris bedford from "the daily caller." the jobs report is going to be your big economic story tomorrow, right? 8:30 ian time. and we're getting some clues from the private sector on what we might expect with this 173,000 private sector jobs in the month of may -- by the way, weaker than expected. the market watcher, or michael block, is with us. and the other watcher in all this would be the fed, i guess. what about tomorrow? what do we expect the headline to be after we get the number? >> yeah. it's 173 on the adp today, right in line really. now, the question is, is that must have?
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the whispers are centered around that number. i'm not hearing outlying numbers here. connell: kind of ho-hum. exactly right. we were having a political discussion earlier which i'll translate into an economic question or comment or let you talk about it, this recovery -- to the president's point yesterday he's sayiing oh, it's much better than when i started. that was basically his point. some numbers, yeah, that's true, and then melissa francis was makeing the point this has been a weak recovery on a relative basis. >> you also have to ask yourself how is quality of life. let's look at the jobs, first of all. is 160 good enough? does that number need to be 200 to justify the assumption that the data needs to be very good to justify higher rates on june 15th or in july by the federal reserve? now, i'm going to make the argument that 160 number is slowing down from this close to 200 trend we had earlier. but you could make the argument any which way. it's like -- connell: but your argument is we're not at a place where we
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should be thinking about raising interest rates. >> i think we're late in a very distorted business cycle here, connell. that's where i come out on this. here's my issue, we're talking about the data, you know, this is blasphemy, the fed is not data-dependent. that's a ruse. that's bunk. connell: what are they dependent on? >> asset roll tilt, and that's a global game here. they'll be watching the numbers tomorrow, flip a coin. go ahead, we're stuck in a range here. we're going to be trading to the top of the range, bottom of the range. get above, i want to sell 'em. the important thing to watch and not enough people are talking about is what's going on early next week in china, the joint economic dialogue where treasury officials and other senior officials from the u.s. are going to be meeting with their chinese counterparts. now, there's a lot of pressure and talk in china that they're going to be pressuring the fed, what are you going to do?
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it affects their currency, they say it affects their economy. it's certainly going to affect their markets which is what i think the fed cares about. connell: okay. we'll watch china next week. thank you, michael, you make our life easier. [laughter] as you guys know, i've been filling in for neil the last couple days. neil's producer is ralph who he talks about sometimes, and ralph says there's going to be a lot of puns in the show today. he'd been writing a lot of them, so he's put one together here, and we can try it out. he musk be kidding. [laughter] anybody? no? it didn't work, ralph. elon musk, you get it? elon musk, he musk be kidding. [laughter] i told him it was a bad idea. anyway, he's in the news for a couple things. one of them is he wants us to go to mars. he's going to send ralph there in a self-driving car. we put it all together next.
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♪ >> i'm nicole petallides with your fox business brief. the dow right now down 17,772, and the s&p 500 down 3.5 at this moment. and we're keeping a keen eye on oil as well, the opec ministers met in vienna and, basically, as oil has run up close to $50, crossed for the first time in 2016, they didn't feel the pressure to affect supply and demand but agreeing to meet again in the future. oil got a little spook in the morning, it has regained momentum to the upside. and the energy stock, still see down arrows, transocean, diamond offshore, an a that daughter coe also a laggard but, again, off the lows of the day. and then there's apple. goldman sachs, which kept a buy rating on the company but did say they expect lower prices as the company expands into
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connell: back on ca -- cavuto coast to coast, and president obama speaking live in colorado springs, his final commencement address as the commander in chief at the air force academy. we were wondering whether he'd make any references to the current political campaign, and he hasn't directly referred to donald trump, but we did pick out quote that just came from the president moments ago.
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he said we can't give in to isolationism. he called it a false comfort, and he said it makes usless secure as americans. the president going on to say we have to keep leading to the build justice we want in the world. so, obviously, donald trump has been referred to, his policies at least, by many as a, quote-unquote, isolationists. he might argue he's not exactly that, but the president bringing that up out in colorado springs at the air force academy. now, let's get to elon musk and this bold prediction we told you about. watch this. >> the basic game plan, we're going to send a mission to mars with every mars opportunity from 2018 onwards. should be able to launch people probably many 2024 with arrival in 2025. connell: good to go. sign to up, mars by the year people on mars. so that's actually pretty soon when you think about it. the other thing musk said was that apple will make a car by 2020.
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the two not necessarily related. deirdre bolton hosts "risk and reward" even evening at 5 p.m -- >> from earth. connell: what'd you think of ralph's tease, musk be kidding? >> you know what, connell, you went with it -- connell: well, i'm pilling in, so i felt bad. >> i'm here all week. connell: that's right. [laughter] tip your waitresses. i just felt bad. but the self-driving car, funny, apple, not google, i guess. >> it's funny that the' owe of he's -- ceo of tesla, elon musk -- musk be kidding me -- is talking about apple saying, you know what? i think apple is going to have an electron in, self-driving car by 2020, and even though i make the exact same products, i'm not worried at all a because the marketplace is big enough for a lot of -- connell: thinks they got started a little late. >> he did. he said that they could have gotten started earlier. bmw, by the way, also competing
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in the electric car space and saying, you know what? not too many people have bought this, i think about 25,000. and if you compare that to tesla, they have orders for something like 400,000. so bmw saying we are going to work on autonomous cars. connell: musk be kidding. >> elon musk apparently saying he actually wants to die on mars. connell: be born on earth and die on mars. >> yeah. you've got to die somewhere, and mars is a good place -- connell: i've always said i wouldn't want to personally go, but i do have a list -- >> you would volunteer so generously? connell: aisle not going to -- i'm not going to make it public -- >> but they're advertised. connell: yeah. i think people could guess. at&t, we talked about this earlier. we all have wi-fi in our house, right? >> right. connell: and we get it from either cable company, phone company, and at&t's in that business through uverse. what are they doing with this? >> they're saying in your home,
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they've never really enforced. they talk about data usage caps, but they don't really enforce it. just to be clear, it's probably about 4% of the u.s. population that actually exceeds what they consider a normal limit -- connell: what's normal? >> well, like a few movies, a but videos, they sort of have -- connell: so they usually let you away with it. >> they usually do let you get away with it, but the point is the rule is on the record. so they're saying, well, we're going to probably start enforcing that and charging you every time you bypass that limit. interestingly enough, if you look at the statements from competitors, time warner has said we believe in unlimited use always. comcast does actually have caps, and they enforce them -- connell: oh, they do charge you? >> they do. and verizon says there's no cap but you really can't get the coverage that you want. so that's up to you to decide. connell: i got it. >> in a sense, the people who
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are annoyed about this say, okay, we get it when the companies talk about limiting use, but with the big, fat cables that are going into your house, some consumer advocates are concerned saying it's egregious that you're going to start bothering us about usage because there's a big, fat pipe going into our house, so you really shouldn't care. connell: thanks, deirdre. >> take me off the mars list. connell: you're not on it. [laughter] there's plenty of other people we'd send before you. >> oh, good. i just want to be the least worst behaved. [laughter] connell: there's concerns at the federal reserve about interest rates, we think, and over an interest rate hike. no. there's actually concerns about a hack at the federal reserve. this is a completely different story than we're used to, and we'll have the details after a quick break. years ago, i was starring in a one-woman show
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♪ connell: back on cavuto coast to coast, and as much as i'd like to talk to peter barnes about whether he wants to go to mars or not, we have a better topic here. the central reserve the target of cyber attacks, more than 50 of them between 2011 if 2015. at the federal reserve. you would think that's a big threat. how big of a threat is it and is it a threat to, peter, the stability of our financial system? sounds like a lot. >> reporter: well, we're still going through all this, connell, and this was a reuters report, we should say, and it learned all this through a freedom of information request, and these records show suspected hackers or spies in some of these incidents. and in many cases, they involved malware, malicious software. the recent cyber theft of $81 million from the central bank of bangladesh has heightened concerns about the i.t. security at central banks around the world and the international football system. the fed's computers contain an
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enormous amount of sensitive information ranging from internal data as well as private information on the global financial system and the fed's monetary policy setting process. now, according to a person familiar with the attacks, the fed materials provided to reuters represent incidents that required security staff intervention. they were not breaches, according to this person, in which a fed computer had been taken over and/or sensitive data accessed. in a statement, a fed spokesperson said, quote: as with other government agencies, the federal reserve is a target for cyber attacks. however, our security program and processes for detecting and countering attacks are robust and our critical operations have never been affected. connell? connell: all right, peter, thanks. another story you might find unnerving reveals the chinese government is buying up luxury hotels to spy on us. chief intelligence correspondent for fox news is catherine herridge, and she joins us now.
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what are the details, catherine? >> reporter: the new research details a massive campaign by the chinese government or chinese-controlled firms to buy up luxury hotels around the world, and the researcher says the venues are now high risk for cyber espionage because of the chinese government's long standing practice to use hotels to steal intellectual property. >> the chinese are responsible for 95% of the economic espionage that we see in americans' firms. so rather than describe the hotel as certainly compromised, we're calling it a high security risk. and any executive worth their salt would know that they should steer clear of a location that's been bought by the chinese government. >> reporter: the research group has done work in the past on china's theft of american business secrets and briefed the findings to members of the administration's nearby security team -- national security team. while they don't offer definitive evidence, they point out the control of a hotel's
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communications network offers easy access to data on wi-fi systems, guest room internet service as well as phone calls. and the risk is not a hypothetical. the u.s. government broke with decades of tradition last fall and abandoned the waffle do have astoria -- waldorf-astoria after it became under chinese ownership. eavesdropping was one of the primary goals. asked a about the decision then, the white house spokesman offered a vague explanation. >> there are a range of considerations that influence where the president will stay when he is not at the white house. those considerations include everything fromavailable space to cost and to security. >> reporter: when the potential spying issue first came up, a rep for hilton worldwide -- which manages the waldorf -- said they were confident no security issues would come out of that sale. connell: catherine herridge there in the d.c. bureau. coming up as we continue for
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another hour, hillary clinton's been ramping up her attacks against donald trump on foreign policy, but will it backfire as it has for some others? that's next. ♪ ♪ innovative sonicare technology with up to 27% more brush movements versus oral b. get healthier gums in 2 weeks guaranteed. innovation and you. philips sonicare. save when you buy the most loved rechargeable toothbrush brand in america.
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connell: hillary clinton has been on the attack and we expect to continue to be on the attack today. the question is will all of this backfire on donald trump. welcome, everybody filling in for niel cavuto. she's making a speech out of san diego next hour as she's trying out a new line of attack. >> this is just more evidence that donald trump himself is a fraud. [cheers and applause] >> he is trying to scam america the way he scammed all those people at trump u. connell: so that argument, which you just heard from secretary clinton, that was an event in
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new jersey, does that sound familiar? maybe it should have if you were watching the primaries. >> donald trump is a conartist. >> this man is a liar. he doesn't know the difference between truth and lie. connell: those people that have done have not faired very well. of course, that was a primary, this will be a general election. carl joins us now. he is being attacked directly by mrs. clinton. what do you think? will this line of attack work from clinton? >> well, first of all, there are going to be several lines of attack. she made one on trump u calling him a fraud. my suspicion today that on speech on foreign policy she's giving out hints that she's going to call him reckless on the issue of nuclear arms.
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we don't know where this is going to plan out. i will make three quick points. one is trump cannot be content to say that it didn't work in the primary it's not going to work in the general election. 6% voted thus far in the republican primary, just under 3% of the total electorate has supported donald trump. that means 97% of the electorate didn't vote in the republican primary or didn't vote for donald trump. that's a big chunk of people and a small impact would be problematic. second of all, calling somebody names is one thing, but the question is how much information will -- will secretary clinton or the media add to various charges. like trump u is going to be a little bit of a problem we are reading in the newspapers. what is it that people already think that they know that they might be concerned about donald trump on?
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you saw it in the quinnipiac poll. they think donald trump is better at handling isis than hillary clinton is. but by i think a 12-point margin, 50 to 33, they believe she's better at handling nuclear weapons or nuclear arsenal. connell: reckless, maybe she'll use today. but the point she says he's dangerous. he's already ahead of that. with all of the crocked hillary clinton, of course, crocked hillary policy experience, she has made so many mistakes, monstrous, exclamation point. if you're trump, 140 characters or less, you look at libya, i
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guess. seems like he's going to go back to libya to use against her. >> what's interesting is if you make the broad charge, our foreign policy, our international relations are in bad shape. they will blame obama more than they would blame her. you know she lied to us about benghazi. she turned down the request of our embassador for security. you know, it was on her watch that they turned down his request for the people that could have kept him alive. and she lied to the participants of -- parents of those that fell, but simply saying, we made a lot of mistakes, they basically say, we are going to give her the benefit of the doubt. we will braim -- blame obama for that. have a lot of information to back up. libya, benghazi, failure to provide security.
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all of these things are really good elements. connell: it does play what we have seen in other polling in terms of being honest and trust worthy. this is just specific to foreign policy. points to be scored here? >> absolutely. the emails is another thing that gets to the heart of did she put the security at risk to connect the nation's most secret discussions about international affairs, which is why i was concerned when the ieg report came out. a perfect moment that trump said, she lied to you when she said she turned it all over, nothing classified passed through the server and on and on and he just said it's a bad report for her. very bad, she has a lot to account for. people want him to make the
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specific argument. it's arming your supporters with information that they could use in their daily lives to say this is the reason i'm for him and why against her. connell: thanks, we appreciate your insight. thanks for joining us today. >> thanks for having me. connell: it looking to stoke the fear on foreign leaders about donald trump. maybe it's dangerous, whatever it is. the point will be the same. former director of the cia, thank you, sir. >> good to be with you. connell: don't trust this guy, he's dangerous, does that work, you think in going after trump? >> i think the jury is still out. he does seem to make decisions fast and that can be a bad thing in the middle of a crisis. on the other hand, i don't think he's shown any responsibility with respect to nuclear weapons. he has said that he might not object if japan and south korea went nuclear, but these are seasoned democracies, we didn't
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object when france went a few years ago. that's the biggest problem sitting before us. it's going nuclear that has already happened by north korea and the possibility under this, i think, terrible agreement that got signed with iran of iran going nuclear before too long. north korea and iran are two countries you don't wanting to nuclear. connell: of course, trump made comments about talking to north korean dictator, kim jong un. i know president obama said things in the past. it's an interesting -- if she will be able to score points. hey, are you going to trust this guy? he's dangerous. >> she might try that. one of the most successful presidents eisenhower made campaign that i will go to korea and he did after he was elected and first reinforced our forces
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there and he worked out a truce over some years, several years. it's not a crime to talk to somebody that you are really hostile to and can't get into. connell: probably strength in trump in some ways because he's a negotiator, this is what i have done my whole life in business and i can take that and translate to political negotiations? >> if he could figure out some way to fold consultations with china into this because the chinese are the great lever over north korea. if they don't want them to do nothing, they won't do it. connell: rhetoric is more aggressive towards china. >> he needs to shape that whole situation with respect to asia in such a way that he gets china on his side to constrain north korea and not believe anything the north koreans say. connell: hour and 20 minutes, about that, it starts in san
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diego. do you think there are areas where she can score and be effective and should she be going to a different direction as opposed to painting donald trump as a crazy person and not having the finger next to nuclear button? is there another area that she should be going after donald trump, experience or something else? >> these are going to be the two candidates unless last-minute switch on the democratic side. i think from both of them, calmness and facts would be much appreciated by a lot of us sitting out here. connell: calmness? >> calmness. [laughter] connell: good luck with that one. >> i realize it's a crazy idea. it strikes me that people are ready for measured, here is what she did wrong, here is what he did wrong without calling names. connell: we are not going to hold our breath.
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i can't even imagine what the presidential debates specially with mr. trump involved. thanks for coming in. a third-party discussion, the battle is brewing on this program, as a matter of fact. >> that will not succeed and only help hillary clinton. i would not want on my conscious as a conservative leader in the country that i did anything that made it more likely we would have four more years just like the last eight. >> i love the fact that the third party won't succeed and he's referring to us. just tell people what they can't do and watch what they will do end up doing. i love it. connell: you will meet the one that says third party will be more imagine
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connell: cavuto coast to coast and donald trump twitter updates continues. today does end in why, he's now commenting on the trump university litigation and says on twitter after the litigation is deposed of and the case won, i've instructed my execs to open trump u. trump u is coming back. maybe he has thoughts on that. donald trump is tweeting like crazy ahead of hillary clinton speech. he's on the crocked hillary stuff. let's go back to markets for a moment. we had the decision against raising raising the output ceiling. 49.26 right now, 25 cents rise
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per barrel. in crude oil, we didn't have drop in inventories today as well. we will keep an eye throughout the session on oil price. venezuela is a country they talk a lot about price. the president nicolás maduro now backing bernie sanders saying bernie sanders our revolutionary friend ought to win in the united states if the elections were free, bernie sanders would be the president of the united states. terry jeffrey on that and we always talk -- we don't always but people say, hey, donald trump is buddies with putin so i guess bernie sanders is buddy with a socialist in venezuela. >> i think people have to take a look at what's happening in venezuela in this century. you had a government that started nationalizing industry
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and making a welfare state, at the same time socializing the economy and taking away the individual liberty of the people, attacking freedom of the press and freedom of assembly. i would argue that goes together everywhere. everywhere where you have socialization of the economy, increases government power over individuals, you have tax on individual liberty, even here in the united states, government is taking over aspects of our life like health care. connell: what do you think is leading us as americans on a relatively large percentage basis to support that kind of thing? more government involvement, socialist, leftist policies as being put forward by bernie sanders. the guy is popular. what do you think is leading to it? >> there's a couple of things. just like venezuela it happened gradually there. the united states has been socializing with new deal with fdr and no one has been able to push back each advance in the
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social welfare state of the united states. in each advance makes the people more dependent on the government. as people become willing to be dependent on government, they surrender their freedom. connell: there's actually a check on it, i feel, for example, the democratic went too far to the left in the past there was dlc that came along as -- that led to the rise of bill clinton and two terms there which a lot would see centrist approach there. >> he understood where the swing vote was in american politics. connell: right. >> he tried to make himself a little more reasonable and conservative on things. >> now it's more on the fringes.
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>> but also think of the same dissatisfaction. we were coming out of a recession in 1992. many people particularly working class america supported ronald reagan. i think there are similarities. no where have we ever ruled back the increase of welfare state and government control of the economy in the united states. we have been moving slowly and gradually on the other direction. connell: right. >> financially it is not sustainable. we see that in venezuela. the socialism is not sustainable. either economically or morally. connell: thank you, terry. hope we never get that far. let's go to fox business and remind you that primaries are coming up tuesday and others as
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well. coverage at 7:00 p.m. eastern time cavuto coast to coast at 9:00 p.m. eastern time wednesday night. uber is next. you know uber. i'm sure many of you used it. some people want to get rid of it, this and that. but it's bringing money, big-time money tokyo-style ramen noodles. freshly made in the japanese tradition, each batch is small. special. unique... every bowl blurring the line between food...and art. when you cook with incredible ingredients... you make incredible meals.
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for you from coast to coast today. mortgage rates rising 3.6%. deadly constant floods continue to devastate communities across the state of texas. the governor greg abbott declaring state of disaster in 31 counties. part of southeast texas could see up to another 7-inches of rain. median income levels for chief
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executives going down. none of the top-paid ceos last year made list this year. seems like there's always something in uber in terms of roadblock. one thing they are not having any trouble doing is raising money. 3 and a half billion dollars for uber. charlie back with us from the news room. uber is the darling of this community, right? >> yeah, you read some of the literature, the best analyst on wall street involving tech, she is now at the venture capital firm, came out with a report i believe yesterday as she believes the iphone craze, that
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we are reaching a limit in terms of profitability and how much business can come out of it and when you start to get to the top of the bubble and she's basically saying we have a bubble with anything concerning this, you do get a few straggles at the end. like saudi arabia, i'm sure that's a sovereign well fund that put the money many there. it's hard to say whether this is a great thing for uber or this represents the top of the market. clearly when this company goes public, there's going to be a lot of people interesting in buying the stock. a lot of people are interesting in buying facebook, facebook has done very well. they got some decent management in there. that's a very strong, well-run company. connell: monetize the fact that we like to babble on twitter. >> yes. i just got done with a big battle, by the way.
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connell: i sad babble. you said battle. >> wonderful things people say about me. connell: let me look that up. so right before the last break i was bringing how trump was tweeting about trump university, among other things, by the way, did you see that? >> yeah. connell: maybe trump university can make a comeback. everybody wants it to come back. this is the tweet. after litigation is disposed of and case won, i've instructed executives to open up trump u, so much interest in it. [laughter] >> well, i will just say this, that's like almost laughable. he has to win the case. the case is not going very well with him either on the state level, private litigants. so he has to win first. you know, if you were going to bet right now based on where those cases are going including the one judge which he claims is
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bias because he's mexican, the guy is mexican decent, american citizen, someone should tell donald that are a lot of mexican decent that are american citizens. if you look at where the cases are going, it looks like the case is going to lose. can he reopen the trump university. by the way, it's not called trump university anymore because it's not a real university, so new york state would not allow to incorporate as a university. connell: it's called something else? >> i think it's called the trump entrepreneurial initiative. connell: not trump u. >> it sounds so catchy. this will engender more, you know, trolling tweets against me, this comment, the likelihood of him winning is very low. by the way, that doesn't make me all the racist home --
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homophobic stuff thrown at me. connell: you got attacked on twitter and now -- >> it's not just me. it's every reporter that goes out there and reports fairly the other side of the story, you get bombarded by racist -- connell: we know that. >> i've written nasty stuff about president obama, not nasty but tough stuff and hillary clinton. they're not like -- chris christie, you name it. it's not fit for daytime viewing. connell: let's leave it then. we have to move to other stuff. go back to that. i can't believe you have time to appear on television. >> and break all the stories. connell: exactly, charley breaks it.
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he's a busy man. worst recovery since world war ii? where have you heard that? it's what mitch mcconnell told us yesterday. we will debate it right after this it's the little things in life that make me smile. spending the day with my niece. i don't use super poligrip for hold, because my dentures fit well. before those little pieces would get in between my dentures and my gum and it was uncomfortable. even well fitting dentures let in food particles. just a few dabs of super poligrip free
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ed administration put their foot on the break. we need to take it off the brake and get on the accelerator to get country moving. connell: trump is the nominee for president. you endorsed him. the policies he put forward in the campaign are types of policies you're talking about? >> some of them. i don't agree on anything. i know this for sure, it won't be four more years like the last eight. hillary clinton will be third term for barack obama. connell: senate majority leader mitch mcconnell was with us here yesterday. dagen mcdowell with us and capri cafaro are with us. worst economy, dagen, since world war ii, donald trump is sort of going to fix it but not really. what do you make of senator mcconnell? >> senator mcconnell is accurate saying that. we had 10 years, that does include a few years under the last bush administration but 10 years of this economy growing at less than 3%, as far back as you
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can go in terms of data. you have to go back to at least 1930, there has never been a period that long where we had such subpar growth. despite all efforts from the obama administration, they have crushed businesses in this country, a lot through regulations coming out of the white house. more regulations economically significant, that cost $100 million a year or more for businesses than the eight years, this is in seven years under the obama administration. eight years under bush. eight years under clinton. so that is what businesses are upset about. connell: would you counter that, capri in any way? as president tried to make his case, anything is better than what i started. those are the numbers? >> there is a little bit of data to support president obama's claim. we went from a 10% unemployment rate to october of 2009, which was part of the first year of president obama's presidency, to a 5% unemployment rate today. we've seen 14.1 million jobs
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that have been private sector jobs created under president obama, more than the 13.5 million jobs created under president reagan. connell: that is argument. i will run on a third obama term if i'm hillary clinton? >> i'm certainly not saying that either. connell: oh. >> there needs to be some balance here. we need to recognize regulatory reform is important. no president, democrat or republican can take full credit or blame for successes or failure of the economy. what they can do create an environment where businesses can grow. there are certain things, for example the clean coal rules, in areas like mine in ohio, might not necessarily be advantageous for the economy. so i think that you know, secretary clinton and donald trump both need to come up with their own plans and not ride coattails of either obama presidency or some other stale economic platform. connell: keith, you numbers, as well as anybody does. if you're secretary clinton, you will make the argument, i think
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she thinks, judging on president going above 50% in approval ratings and things, i think she he net positive for her campaign. should she run that way. can she make that argument hey, it is better off when he started in? >> i think this is sad state of affairs. that is probably argument she is going to make. that is sad state of affairs if that's what you pot. elections were based on promise hope, and now it is least likely interfere with handsouts and what it is in it for me. whether the it is large prolonged recovery or not, for mitch mcconnell, harry reid, for both sides hey they did it, when in fact what needs to happen, long-term people, 20 and 30 years in senate and congress voted us where we need to be that is accountability factor being avoided. >> connell, i find it really kind of hill letter just that the president was criticizing fox news channel. connell: i saw that.
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>> if you listen to fox news. connell: and talk radio. >> we're runaway spending. connell: i know. >> guess what? in the same speech he talked about expanding social security and having the rich pay for it. >> president george w. bush had one of the largest expansions of entitlements in recent history, medicare modernization act of 2003. >> oh, yeah. >> medicare part-d was one of the largest expansion of entitlements. democrats and republicans in that regard are to blame. >> that get as double thumbs down for me because again it was medicare drug benefit. i know that seniors love it but we didn't pay for it. connell: that is issue. we don't pay for any of this stuff. that is what you're talking about, keith. >> there you go. connell: that is what keith is talking about. as i said to james woolsey earlier, when he said, you know, we should have the debate where people will lay out issues and we're all boeing to be measured about it. >> that is why we need a balanced budget amendment people. that is why we need balanced budget amendment.
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>> you're getting to heart of the matter. this is not a democratic issue or republican issue. those are sideshows. this is issue about america and americans. what we need to do have our leaders stand up, you know what we failed? we did not do this. we let the american public now. regardless who comes into the white house we'll work together, this is what we'll do, a, b and c, and here is how it is going to works. in today's day and age, that is the problem. >> connell, you know what i think? keith and capri, this is your third party ticket. again they're like right and left and all in the middle. come on, man. connell: could be you and i. >> why not? >> because i hate you connell. connell: what about all the posters that we had made, we had to throw out? we could bring it back. >> i listened, i listened to that mitch mcconnell interview more than twice yesterday, so -- connell: very nice. >> it was most excellent. connell: that, thank you, just the way i wrote it for you.
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thank you, dagen, keith and capri. it will all be fine when we're on mars in year 2025. >> there you go. connell: by the way, dagen is at list. breaking news, law enforcement source has now confirmed to fox, this is newark airport, new jersey, law enforcement source has confirmed, flight that originated, the, it was, issue with pay phone inside after terminal. trying to determine a caller that was credible. but they're taking threat seriously. a threat came in from a pay-phone inside of the terminal. that has been confirmed by law enforcement official to fox at newark airport. more after this.
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>> from the floor of new york stock exchange, lori rothman with fox business believe. michael kors, apparel and up 4%. over two days kors up 11% reporting some of the strongest sales, best report in a year in terms of sales for kors. also announcing strategy selling, fewer accessories in north america. preserve the brand and change inventory. luxury retailer not enjoying move, turning south. kate spade down 5% today. another retailer in the news, walmart announcing six or nine months away from using drones in the warehouses to check inventory.
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but, so businesses are getting skewered a bit, you see? that's our second one. elon musk one was almost better than that. holy cow. now while, some of these chains that make chicken and the like are looking at not only chicken and regulations of business, which ties back in all seriousness last segment. talking about rules and regulations on business. boston market ceo going through that introduction, from denver, colorado, where we wish him happy national rotisserie chicken day. if you indulge us in the conversation. just having it about businesses where they are, whether small businesses or chains, what have you, regulatory environment, is it something you think about and something that, you know, really hurting your business as much as some others was suggesting earlier in our show? >> we focus on customer. and customer experience and providing great food in our restaurants. we look at regulations. as long as they're rational, we're okay with them. it is when sometimes regulations
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are irrational, that is when we start to worry. connell: is there anything now that stands out or has government gotten too involved in the day-to-day life after business person like you? >> well you know, looking at the sodium requirement in new york city. connell: right. >> where they're required only chains with fifth teen restaurants and more, to post sodium, why not all restaurant? 50% of the meals consumed in small restaurants and not in restaurants like boston market. what is good for us is good for everyone else. the customer needs to know what they're eating in every restaurant they go to. connell: that seems reasonable, if you're going to do it, make everybody do it as opposed to certain type of restaurants. we're looking at some other restaurant stocks. many of those are fast-food chains. from your segment, where do you stand on the whole $15 an hour minimum wage debate we're having in the country? >> well, you know, minimum wage
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is going up. we're all for it. we actually pay more than minimum wage at boston market. connell: right. >> about $1.18 more than minimum wage as blended state rate. so, again as long as it is rational, as long as there is a plan. connell: 15 is kind of high i would think, right, in some states. >> 15 in 2022 in new york, sorry, 2022 in california, 2011 in new york. we want to make sure whatever comes through is rational and makes sense. connell: okay. again, it is national rotisserie chicken day. now we know. george, thank you. he is the boston market ceo by the way. we have, remember police academy movies? the old police academy movies, made a million of them. this scene from police academy 5. >> what is happening, dork? [laughter]
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miss a spot with the sunscreen. so, dave cohen joins us, cofounder of a company called sunscreen, you're welcome everybody for the "police academy scene you saw before. it is your device, instead of using sunscreen to write something on someone, how does it work where we missed a spot? >> sure. sunscreener, when you look through it, allows to see sunscreen on your skin. it literally shows you the areas of the uv spectrum sunscreen blocks, when you look through it, sunscreen appears dark and unprotected skin appears light. it is clear the areas you missed, after you have been out a while, the areas wear away because of sun, water, sweat, toweling off, you can find areas and recoat. connell: ah-ha. going into some kind of a mud bath there. so that the is idea. even if you do it, with the kids like many of us do, and i would
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always get yelled at my kids were little, when i was in charge of the sun block, inevitably one would come home with the worst sunburn on of their lives. fine on the right arm and completely forget the left arm and my wife would catch it beforehand. technology has to be kind of interesting i guess. tell us, like a black light. how does it work? >> so, i know, this version of the device is the literally based on a camera-based approach. there is a very special sensor that can detect uv light. there is a custom lens we put together. a regular lens like a smartphone camera. that doesn't work for uv. there is again a custom filter that cuts out all of the light except the areas where the sunscreen absorbs. so you are only looking at where sunscreen is absorbing. why it looks dark on your skin. it looks a little odd when it is dark. that shows you are protected.
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you can tell difference between a light coat and heavy coat which is most important. connell: you carry it around like on a key chain. it is very small? you can take it to the beach or wherever? >> exactly. designed it to be really rugged. the thing lives at bottom of your beach bag. it will have to go into environments that are wet and sandy. connell: how much, by the way? the. >> current list price is $109. selling for a discount on kickstarter for 74. connell: all right. listen, one of these pieces of technology we can actually use. it has family like me, pays half attention when you're supposed to be putting sun block on the kids. appreciate it, dave. >> thank you. connell: sunscreenr. cofounder dave cohen. guy next says third party could leave both parties burned. ah-ha. ralph strikes again. next on
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connell: so, the third party debate, should there be a third party candidate. it should be heating. as a matter of fact it was heating up right on this very program. watch. >> hillary clinton will be the democratic nominee. donald trump is going to be the republican nominee. you may fantasize about somebody else. you may have supported somebody else in the primary but there is the choice. >> we wouldn't do this if there weren't opportunity to actually win the white house but to win the white house we have to be in the presidential debate. connell: so you need 15%? >> we need to be at 15%. the fact we're included in polls is really very significant. connell: you saw senator mcconnell saying no chance, if somebody runs as third party. steve lonegan joins us. you saw gary johnson talking about getting to 15%. do you think there is a chance, whether it is gary johnson, i don't know about this guy david french being mentioned nobody heard of until couple days ago, do you think there will be impact from third party candidate in this case? >> connell, i can't predict who gary johnson is taking his votes on, when they get done passing
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the bong at libertarian convention maybe they figure that out. connell: wow. he could be taking from both sides. >> he could be taking from both sides. connell, first step you need to winning campaign, i need many of them, to get your troops marching, get up on the stallion leading them to victory. donald trump is failing to unify the republican party. this is really symptomatic of. the fact leader in the conservative movement like business kristol seeking someone to advance conservative principles not a good sign for what donald trump is doing for the republican party. connell: he has brought some of the leadership together. argue it takes time. it was crazy primary. you were a cruz guy, right? >> i was very much a cruz guy. i wake up every morning looking for reason hoping to support donald trump. i haven't even that reason yet. neither has bill kristol. neither has a lot of other people. we're going into convention republican party in july, one of two things. we'll see a unified party
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committed to winning and to advancing republican conservative principles -- connell: would you consider this guy, say it was french or somebody else? if it was, if it was mitt romney, you know which is not going to be but if it was mitt romney or somebody very well-known, are you type of voter who is thinking serious third party candidate would be someone you consider? >> i'm a conservative before i republican. i do not want to see divided party. i want to see a unified party but right now only donald i'm voting for in the upcoming election is donald duck. i'm not casting my vote for donald trump. he hasn't earned my vote. i'm only one voter. connell: donald duck is running again? i thought term limits kicked in there that he couldn't run again. you're sitting out? you're not getting involved? >> first of all i don't want to be told by mitch mcconnell we have to accept his candidate. mitch mcconnell let us all down when he got republican control of senate and failed to live up to the tea party movement and conservatives.
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he will not tell me or a lot of conservatives we have to vote for trump. connell: what will you do. >> i work very hard through the courageous conservative pac to push donald trump to be conservative leader. he has time to do that. connell: we have only 30 seconds, give me issue or two we like? what are you trying to push him on the most he is not, doesn't seem to be bending on? >> he seems to think we have imperial presidency that can levy tax, punitive taxes on his chosen enemies like carrier. that is not the role of the presidency. president doesn't control the purse strings. he has to remember conservatives believe limiting power of government, not expanding it. fundamental conservative principles of william f. buckley. why a guy like david french comes out of "national review" can help push issues, any other disney characterrers? that is it, steve. thanks for being on. >> thanks for having, me, connell. connell: thanks for joining us here in new york. fox business, by the way have live coverage of california and primary there on tuesday evening.
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all other primaries, new jersey on down. coverage begins at 7:00 p.m. eastern time on fox business network. "cavuto: coast to coast" coverage at 9:00 p.m. eastern time. this is what we call synergy. luck would have it, trish regan leads coverage on the evening and leads coverage next hour. hey, trish. trish: connell, thank you so much. breaking this hour, hillary clinton expected to attack donald trump in national security speech in california just a short time from now as she desperately turns her attention to the golden state. she and bernie sanders remain locked in a dead-heat, prominent democrat warns that hillary clinton may not get the nomination after all. i am trish regan. welcome, everyone to "the intelligence report." new poll out today shows how tight the race for california really is. clinton leading sanders by two points, a virtual tie there. clinton, seemingly
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