waiting for this thing to get to 18,008. ashley: it cost us money? is that what you are saying? >> i was hoping wickets at way to charles payne, my good friend and colleague who's waiting to take away. i was hoping i could give you 18,000 by the import team shy. charles: i will take it from here. by the way, boating and 60 today, looking or some momentum. welcome to "cavuto: coast-to-coast." i am charles payne in for a neil cavuto. momentum with house speaker paul ryan unveiling the plan to rein in government ways. despite disagreements with donald trump coming is the better choice for the economy. >> do i believe hillary clinton is the answer to solving his problems? i do not. we have more common ground on policy issues of the day and more likelihood of getting policies enacted with him than

we do with her. charles: of mark's toronto, emily sassaman. taking aim at hillary clinton obviously. this wasn't also an exact ringing endorsement of donald trump either. what do you make of this? i think it's pretty odd to begin with but it feels like paul ryan is on a parallel track to donald trump. is unveiling his own plan. he's unveiling the future of the gop. as an adult trump's party anyway? >> it is donald trump's party and paul ryan needs to get in line with his endorsement. he got on board the train, babysitting back in the caboose because it's not a full endorsement. charles, on substance, this is that the gop should be doing. he should develop some proposals that trump should consider when he takes office and they are conservative proposals did they save billions of dollars in waste and cut back on regulation.

$10 million in food assistance programs will be saved. this is the constructive role that i think you should play, but they should be recommendations to the front runner to the presumptive nominee for when he becomes the president because the gop in the house will be following his lead and his agenda. charles: charlie, it is interesting we are looking at photos -- film from earlier in the clergy, you saw a black woman, a member of the clergy dare. there was another subliminal message to paul ryan was trying to convey us well. >> most definitely. i've actually pleased by what i saw. for once, the speaker of the house is something on or didn't do. they are reaching out to portions of the american electorate that don't traditionally vote republican. this is something you and i talked about frequently that the poor in this country have been harmed the most by the obama administration.

if there's a progrowth message centered around opportunity, one that tries to make a safety net a latter and not ama, that is something the republican party can succeed not politically and also in a policy realm. i'm happy to see speaker ryan address these problems. you should talk more about school choice. that is someing trump would take up wholeheartedly. if you look at hillary clinton, she's going to struggle with the black vote compared to a barack obama did in 2012 and 2008. this could help politically in november. charles: emily come to you to contrast her hillary is with respect to bernie sanders here he's not only pulling her to the left that getting the group of voters to charlie's going to probably won't make a difference. they have to be energized, the very first place. one of voters, hispanics, blacks. i'm not so sure she'll be able to do it. >> she is doing well with hispanic and black voters. when asked if they within the and support her, especially considering trump is now solidified as a candidate come even while there was a hot democratic or america would not

have 80% of millennial thirst and they would support her in again. the platforms are not that far apart. a difference in degree and time. what ryan was trying to do yesterday was attempting what your guests are eloquently saying the republican party is trying to do for a long time is appealed to voters. it does not work because the plans are still cutting working people here are some good conversation but it's not doing it. trump himself over the last week on a conversation about whether and hispanic origin judge on muslim origin judge could hear a trump case. that is saying exactly what the conversation is. [inaudible conversations] charles: we are talking about two different things. on the policy side, the notion of the country where people come from all over the world and they have one unified script to make it in this country. pull yourself up by the

bootstraps. this is completely opposite of what bernie sanders is saying. somehow if you are born here or find your way here one way or the other, this country owes you some team. those are the two dynamics. >> bernie sanders in hillary clinton's support the great society. has been 50 years since the war poverty began and we are still at the same 15% of poverty that we had 50 years ago because big government aleutians only create larger, bigger, fatter government. these proposals which i think trump can probably get behind her pose to streamline programs for the or, for food assistance, eliminate regulations for universities. these proposals are very sensitive and this business about republicans can't possibly do anything about poverty suggest democrats have a monopoly on poverty programs. democrats are the ones who created poverty programs in big government.

charles: here is the interesting part is this great war and poverty began with a walking tour of appalachia, where you at hillary clinton go into the same space 50 years later same she wants to get rid of the few remaining jobs. obama same policies in cuba, why can't we apply the same logic to their so-called war on poverty? >> i will disagree about this whole idea that republicans hate poor people. who's running our inner cities? chicago, philadelphia. you can't remember the last time they had a majority city council. they have spent trillions of dollars with no net impact improving for american spies. we create a ladder of opportunity for those people that do not have that well-off. choice and competition instead

of giving out free stuff and hoping it's going to get better. i am rather encourage that paul ryan has put this forth. i do think it's trump becomes president of the united states, this is something he can get behind. charles: how does hillary clinton clenched his nomination without an embarrassing fight at the convention and by the same token of peace, the extraordinary far left bernie s. >> she has clinched the nomination of the last night. there is six primaries including two in the country. very diverse states, large states and people should be turning out today. i think one of the things committee announced it last night but she's clinched the nomination will hurt the turnout numbers because people think ciardi got the nomination. i'm not sure i'm going to take the time to vote today in the primary, which is a perception problem. in terms of delegates in new jersey before the polls even closed in california.

>> that was the deception of the news media pushing her over the goal line. charles: one second because they have to finish this. that includes superdelegates which is an enormous backlash. she's got to find a way to win this without superdelegates. i don't know if she can get the numbers between new jersey and california. >> she gets on track to get a majority delegates. charles: you guys are all fantastic and you're all my favorite. we'll get you vaccine. "the associated press" is saying clinton has gained delegates needed for the nomination. he is still eyeing real big fight to win and is going to fight on. here to help us sell it all out. >> just as you said, hillary clinn has reached the threshold. this is official and this includes the superdelegates, exactly what you are talking about.

2383 with the superdelegates included bernie sanders 1569. i'm going to show you if we take it out and it will pop up in just a minute how close they are if you subtract the superdelegates. you can see there's a dierencebut not such a big difference. goingoeeinan ihrghheonntn actually unprecedented number. it is possible. some people are saying it is not possible for bernie sanders to make up the gap. in other words, he had changed over a few 40 to 50 superdelegates while bernie sanders would need to do a whole lot more. some quick hotspots in california. just wanted to show you some of

the regions we are looking at tonight. right here in silicon valley, focus on a lot of libertarians in there. we are not sure how they are going to go. they could take sanders. they could pay clinton. people could go to the polls in november. this is a wildcard area. if you look at l.a. and ventura, senator sanders spent a lot of time and ventura again. this is a libertarian stronghold. as you have been reporting quite rightly, the official number is hillary clinton. senator sanders saying he's going to keep fighting. see what happens. back to you. true to hillary clinton celebrating right now. how much trouble will should trouble will she trouble will should be an issue this is california because she will be in trouble if she doesn't win the state tonight. perhaps you can call it a tossup. one thing not in dispute is the amazing amount of momentum that bernie sanders has going in to

the day. >> he does have a ton of momentum. if i was hillary clinton campaign, i would be unhappy with every single newspaper. she needs to wrap this up here this week for her and her ideal is an historic first woman nominee party time. how is that narrative going to work? she is so weak that the close is a socialist has gotten since fdr's first bp is beating her in california, is also going to complicated for the president to come in and unify the party and later this week say everyone needs to get behind hillary clinton. we see bernie sanders historically. the man holds a grudge. he's got nothing to lose any fleeting revolution. if he can stick around, why won't he? >> they've been extremely belligerent. this guy is not even a democrat.

he occasionally caucused, but they've been an independent start a served the party. we are hearing pleas from the establishment, but ultimately he needs the delegates. they would wait and hope this argument. >> when in california to show how historically weak she is. another card in nasdaq is that the fbi really scares democrats. they should do this month in month earlier. superdelegate system is going to change at this convention for future people. these are the political elites. these are people who decide your party, not you. he could've gotten more press the news media and reporters rally that appeared most people don't know what a superdelegate is. the reason is he wanted to focus on the issues and tell it was to

today. charles: he took a lot of things. he knew stuff for a long time. he kept the clinton foundation staff and they're now starting to talk about it. seems reluctant to hammer it home. he might be open to some form of negotiation. the scuttlebutt is president obama will come in and less hillary clinton this week after winning tonight. could he have to comment and be the sort go-between to him or some sort of compromise between hillary and bernie, particularly if many wins today. >> obama will have a 45 minute phone conversation if he wins in california. the progressives really like a president. bernie sanders really doesn't have a lot of loyalty to anyone other than his ideas. he's not -- he would be wise to focus the democrats on attacking donald trump and not get behind hillary clinton and wyatt is the

rate system and represent the democrat. and her again it was the same superdelegates. thanks a lot. appreciate it. tune in now to tonight. trish regan begins at 9:00 p.m. eastern time. finally releasing conservatives three years ago. the list is a lot longer and bigger and deeper than we expected and it's a lot worse than we expect it.

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charles: a quick look at the dow jones industrial average. we did move across the magical eight teen k. line. it is big symbolic number. keeping an eye on oil, topping $50 a barrel today, teetering back and forth. this is huge, react to a notion despite the fact they want to. they cheered from iran and others camp pompous 11 month high for oil. irs finally releasing the names of groups to party groups three years ago. the list over 400 names, but so far no one been punished if there's no accountability for this. that's the details to adam. >> when the service and breaking news. the organization funding the

lawsuit with the irs would be citizens for self-governance has just made public the fact that with the irs gave them was more than a thousand ways. not a thousand target, but a thousand huge amount of list of people they are analyzing that are analyzing that and they called the list of 426. i was giving to the poor. they say it was fabricated in bogus. let's get into the numbers that are official from the irs and why the story keeps changing. the first full screen will show you clearly what appeared. the summary list from the irs said that it targeted 426 groups. when all this broke and became a headline three, four years ago, the treasury department to its own investigation and said it was only 290 targets. there's the first conflict. now it's 426. let's look at who got targeted.

if you believe the 426, during a timeout which are clearly conservative groups. they had the name t. as in tea party in their name. 33 have been named patriot in their name. 26 have the word liberty in their name, it had to work constitution. if those were the only conservative groups, they would be roughly 29% of the 426. but if you believe the original investigation by like 43% of the groups targeted. why you shouldn't believe a bit of that. firs lois lerner, head of the irs, she was admitted before congress that they targeted conservative groups. the doj and fbi, this is a quote, found no evidence that any irs official acted based on political discrimination or inappropriate motives that would support criminal prosecution.

we find out today at fox business breaking missed business breaking missed that the plane that they the list are actually 1000 that. the list they put out to the public is a smokescreen because the media to say nothing to see here because they targeted liberal and conservative groups. this is getting much worse for the irs. charles: i know,dam. two things, people like to affirm, that accountability someone should pay for this. >> a lot of people would agree. if you broke the lie should be held accountable. that bias everyone's rights. the stock market continues to climb. very hawkish at the same time.

charles: the much beleaguered pharmaceutical company down again, plunging after announcing its cutting its guidance and i lost track of how many times they've many times are done not. shareholders have been because the stock is down 75% this year alone. voters heading to the polls. the stock market is making a move back towards the all-time high start by janet yellen of all people. i thought it was interesting with janet yellen because she said we believe in our models. we believe our work is right and we believe the economy is coming around despite friday's jobs numbers.it seems like she is plt least a look at incoming data. is that why the market ticket positively? >> the market responded positively to the notion just backing away from inner to rate increase. the idea we will see the word or longer. the chairman is trying to walk that fine line recognizing the weakness in the current data while still maintaining optimism for further improvement down the line.

charles: so they hike rates in december without the data appears somewhat argue without the data. we get the worst start in the history of the stock market. she backed tracks big-time, but there's still so to this notion that it's time for rates to go up. >> that's right because they follow through with their decision to lift up in december. without the data it was against the backdrop of a fragile economy. negative business investment declining consumer spending, still fragile inflation. no justification for lift up whatsoever. the fed continues to talk up the idea that they will continue to remove accommodation. that very much based on their forecasts. they're consistently inaccurate forecast of improving conditions down the line. charles: what about the notion that the average person will say this hasn't helped us. you prevent $3 trillion, $4 trillion. for the most part if you want to count auto loans which are outrageous in the 68 month long and the highest payments out

there. the average person trying to open up the business and looking for access to buy the house hasn't helped them. why take on the risk anymore of having this much of a balance sheet? >> that's one of the arguments they're making. and a benefit we could have received in the economy after seven years of near zero interest rate policy authority been taken. at this point we are now risking further barriers and unintended consequences by maintaining buildable rates. even if the economy is not a more robust or strong or rapid pace, moderate is good enough to continue to raise rates. charles: where do you think we should be? you are one of my favorite economist. you've been calling it right for a long time. where should we be? what's a smart number to be for markets are the average person who was sentenced this risk even though they get the benefits. >> at this point when we talk about an economy eking out 2% gdp, still sluggish employment

well below the 2% target, we can talk about a moderate 1% grade on the target. charles: take it tepidly. >> exactly. part of the problem is this back-and-forth rhetoric of talking up and pulling back. the fed is doing themselves a large disservice underline what credibility they have left. >> on thin ice. if wall street's going to whine, let them whine. thanks a lot. appreciate it. illegals rushing to the border is california pushes to expand obamacare to illegal aliens. everybody wants a piece of the action. we will talk about it next.

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charles: central american refugees are flooding our borders just as california lawmakers expand obamacare for illegal immigrants. david asman here to help unpack this if you will. >> i have to say right up front i married a central american. i've got skin in the game so to speak here. she was lucky enough to be in love with me and i was lucky enough to be a military and her and so we got married and everything was legal and everything. the question here is there's so many illegal immigrants from central america come into the night days. most of them unaccompanied children. in an age group that would really need medical care in

large quantities than obamacare right up front that we are not going to treat illegal immigrants. this is not a program for legal immigrants. california is now asking for a waiver because of this flood of central american, particularly kids come a waiver to allow illegal immigrants under obamacare. that is illegal. they specifically said obamacare did we weren't going to pay for illegal immigrants. it is another obamacare life. wasn't going to cost any more money. keep the player new website. this is another one of those obamacare lies that has turned out to be untrue. charles: but it also focuses on the state of california, which we were talking on the break has become a disaster. seeing the violence there at donald trump rallies. it really is the ultimate -- election laws come a very poor it's completely collapsing. the entire state collapsing. >> and again, i m. all in favor

of illegal immigration. i married into an immigrant family. we want immigrants to come here to work, not immigrants who come here for welfare. that is what this policy does. it would start kids because more of the illegal immigrants or children. it would start from the get-go on becoming welfare recipients. we don't want to bring that in the minds of immigrants. we want them to come here for the american dream, which is to work hard for what you got. charles: in 2014, 178 kids were sent through the system. by march of this year it is 1500. that is just human county alone. you can argue also by advocating or advertising that they are trying to get this waiver. they are encouraging this huge influence of kids who become some sort of anchors now once they are here. do they get to bring the family then? >> there's no question.

you will see news reports and politicians talking about separation of families. it used to be pregnant women would come over illegally so they can have their kid and be kind anchored into their kid. now they are just sending the kids, which is brutally unfair to the children themselves on the part of the parent. so there is that to deal with. and makes one think if there was a wall for some effect it means to prevent that from happening, not only would it be good for us, but it would also be good for the kids because it would deprive parents have an opportunity. charles: we see people on top of the trains. we see patsy illegals have taken. imagine someone from a country beyond mexico's sending their kid on top of one of those trains are through their paths. >> it is nice. having said that, they're legitimate reasons reasons for people wanting to come. we want the people who come here

wanted to work. by the way, the welfare that california offers everybody is 10 times as much per person as is offered in this. texas has about the same number of immigrants coming in per square mile than california does. california has a much smaller border. the working immigrants as opposed to california because california offers more welfare and the word is out. word is out in the immigrant community. go to california. charles: david asman, thank you. by the president doesn't want to privatize the va. abc showed max. -- maybe he should. next. this just got interesting. so why pause to take a pill?

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charles: president obama same privatizing the va will only delay the progress. well, it he is saying that it's already made. let's face it, by the way he had veteran scored or extremely satisfied and the quality of care is extremely high. not everyone agrees with the florida republican congressman randy santos is the va is far from being fixed via thanks for joining us to it is infuriating to hear president obama make those are the statements in so many people died on waiting lists when the problems have gone on and on. too many accounts have gotten worse despite being highlighted over the last couple years. >> a waiting list now are worse than they were when the scandal first broke a couple years ago. the va secretary with the president gave a vote of confidence to dismiss these long waiting list and said he don't complain if you're on a waiting list for space mountain.

it's the overall experience. every veteran can get the care they need, of course that's important. what you've seen is no accountability in the va. we in congress have versus secretary to use the tools we provided to fire the bad senior executives. they fired very few people in so i think of a veteran is stuck on one of these waiting list they should be a bit ago to a private caregiver to get the care they need. they should not be forced to wade through the bureaucracy. charles: two things here. accountability because even though they brought in a private sector by, who by the way just as you are, europe filed with guilty one. i wouldn't say necessarily detached from the emotional aspects of what's going on, but certainly comments were really terrible, clumsy. do we start at the top? or is the bottom line the bureaucracy the matter who's at the top.

is that one of the issues also? >> new leadership is important. we've got to bring accountability to the bureaucracy. true to who is to go to wake everyone not to make them understand you just can't sleep walk through this job and you can't go through here with an indifferent attitude. >> it's got to be the average va person. charles: the lifelong person, no accountability, comes and goes as they want. semantic or not to make the job of got to get someone else in there to do a good job. the idea you could let veterans toil on the weighted less than somehow you're never held accountable, that lack of accountability if you had a new leader at the top, if the system is not moving it's difficult. we want to bring those changes. charles: accountability seem be a four letter word no matter who's in control. how can you get that through particularly under president obama, potentially president clinton.

>> we passed the bill in the house that said all uva people are going to be held accountable if you're not doing a good job in obama threatened to veto it. it's not gone through the senate yet. it's something people need to take the case to the american people about it. charles: what is the opposition to what you just said in terms of being able to list longer than me is the nearby private hospital. give me a card or voucher. he was opposed to that? how did they justified? >> they believe in a government run system and the va is one example of that. my view is that the american people and the government of the veterans is the care. it doesn't have to be through the va. charles: the operative word is we owe them this. tonight by easing tensions. bernie sanders supporters -- i'm sorry, soroka is then regret is that clinton winning are not, the delicate -- it doesn't matter.

they will go to the july convention. i've got to tell you something. so many people are saying what is the deal with bernie sanders and his core supporters. you guys really care about the democratic party? are you in is about ego, ideology? you are wrecking the whole thing. >> it's an interesting question. we definitely care about defeating donald trump. that remains to be bernie sanders. folks are still voting today that we have to acquire is have to acquire as many pledged delegates as we can honor this contest. after tonight is over, the last ignited the primary where we end up in bernie sanders should go make up his mind about the next step forward. >> hillary clinton actually talked about this this week, suggesting she made it fairly quickly. she endorsed barack obama in 2008 and she helped him get elected. are you suggesting bernie sanders is that open-minded

because all we hear is this guy will a convention. he that thou say this. i just never e-mails back in 2008 and i seem to recall that barack obama clinch the nomination sodas week as for ap calculation. hillary clinton didn't quite concede just then. there were a few days ago. frankly this race isn't over. tons of pledged delegates available in the race and while it's very difficult for bernie sanders to overcome the pledged delegate, it is still possible. at the end of the day, i am calm and in that weather the democrats nominated her to sanders or secretary clinton, democrats are going to be united to defeat the billionaire bigot this fall. charles: you've talked about this pledged delegates, but let's face it right now bernie sanders homered by find the superdelegates, which by the way he gives these guys throughout most of the election process.

he talked about how unfair it was. here he is hot it was feared here via tottenham tried to flip them. there's a certain amount of irony and hypocrisy to all of that. >> within. you've got to work in the system as it is. democracy in america for our position has long held the winner of the nomination to receive the greatest number of pledged delegates. we think superdelegates should be out of the process entirely. birdies got to play the game is in right now. he has a right to do it and we'll see. at the end of the day, this race is going to be over in a few weeks. charles: i want to squeeze a quick one in. he took a cheap shot at donald trump had a lot of political pundits think it's going to scoop up a picture of bernie sanders supporters. you disagree? >> i vehemently disagree. at the end of the day, supporters care about taking on income inequality and making

sure we don't get into more reckless wars. i think donald trump is the candidate to do either of those. charles: thank you very much. appreciate it. voters are heading to the polls in new jersey. joe piscopo was here. his take on donald trump's comments about the judge next. you pay your car insurance

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>> claiming a person can't do a job because of their race of the text but definition of a racist comment. i should be disavowed. it's unacceptable. charles: donald trump continued to face backlash over his comments about judge jarrell. new jersey found a piscopo -- why no one is coming to his defense. when newt gingrich on sunday said it was unacceptable it opened the floodgates for a lot

of republicans who i think would have saved this topic another sort of gave them a great night to tie upon. >> yeah. i will tell you what. when the media gets a lot of something, they asked on other question and then they asked him again until they get what they want. and they could run with it. that's exactly what this is. they take the narrative. they hijack it and they will run it. donald trump -- charles: that can make it easy for them. we know first of all this is my -- i think the matter who the republican nominee is, the question of race and racism always comes up every single time when it comes to republican. knowing that going into this come you don't make it easier to set this trap. >> that's right. hillary is calling him and not me. black lives matter same way people are bad. it is just donald will go by. if you know donald, it's hard to explain to the folks outside the

area. donald is a good guy. no racism in his body. this judge happens to be affiliated with the rows, which could be considered radical and maybe wouldn't be fair to donald trump. he's going to go through the channels of going after the judge in getting the judge disqualified to hear his case. charles: you know he's not going to file son formal request. some people saying why didn't you guys do this already. >> they could be in place. the press has got to let it go. also, look where we are. it's primary day. all across a lot of states. but to what hillary did. that's the story and it was brilliant. don't be a hillary hater. admired your adversary. she went with the superdelegates. could someone explain to me? it's like a superhero. your vote does not matter.

it is me, superdelegate. charles: it's the difference between clark kent and superman. one guy was the delegate -- a regular delegate. they don't feel that good about themselves. it has to be a superdelegate. charles: they've got delegate envy. the >> so now i go to jersey. i'm independent. i was a democrat for all those years that i saw the democrat turn into the socialist party. if you're a kind of outcome you've got to go for bernie. he is everything the democrats stand for. he's appeared democrat i believe. charles: the fact they are fighting each other for toilet paper in venezuela. >> wrister case, charles. i've got a good jersey. now i'm an independent. in the infinite wisdom of new jersey election, i've got to go and report and i will go away

now. i can't vote because i'm an independent. i have too declared now you do a reregister as a democrat and vote for bernie is an anti-hillary vote or do i go in for the first time in my life and become -- i can't even say it, republican. i won't be able to write republicans. i'm a lifelong democrat. i don't like being affiliated with anybody. the way it looks now register for the first time that the republican vote for donald trump and congressmen into my district. charles: you come from a democrat. i'm a registered independent, too. i feel your pain. i just don't vote in the primary. >> that's not right. if donald trump gets in. things will change. they have to change the ars: aomotdeege.

four years from now on the gop side the delegates will have the ability to ignore the will of the people. the establishment is that deeply embedded in this vein. charles: i think you are right -- charles: when you talk to him, say listen, i know you don't like him. i know you want to defend every aspect of your name in personality. but should he be laser like focus on games that are slamdunk? in a while is a slam dunk. why not be laser like focus on those things instead of being lured and then trapped by the media that we argue now wants to trap them. >> i have pocket square envy. charles: we've got to go. either way, this is really interesting. it just came in. the nfl twitter account was hacked. someone posted that commissioner roger udell died.

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charles: welcome back to cavuto coast to coast, i'm charles payne. paul ryan unveiling his plan today for a better gop. >> we wanted to start with poverty, because we think this sums up our case. we want to build a confident america where no one is stuck, where no one settles and where everyone can rise. that is why we are here today. charles: paul ryan trying to dispel the stigma, if you will, of republicans being anti-poor. former republican virginia governor george allen says this is exactly what the gop needs to do, stand for ideas and also provide solutions. governor allen, welcome to the show. >> great to be with you, charles. charles: it's great to see you. paul ryan today, you know, focusing on poverty, focusing on

other issues. to be quite frank with you, to a degree, i think that's welcomed. i'm a solutions-based kind of person, and you like the idea as well? >> i love it. i love it. you know, the republicans, i've been saying this for many years, it's important, obviously, to play to the nation's defense against bad ideas, it is also important to say what you're for with positive, constructive solutions and ideas that people can say, darn right, that makes sense. and so many of the ideas that paul ryan came up with today are things we did while i was governor. i love promoting the work ethic rather than rewarding idle behavior. we did that welfare reform two years before the federal government. the welfare rolls were cut, fathers are at least financially responsible for their children, the taxpayers have saved hundreds of millions of dollars, and best of all there's tens of thousands of people leading independent, self-reliant lives. i also think regulatory reform is important.lot of duplicationn

regulations, and we did that as well as governor, and i also like his idea of measurement and accountability. because what gets measured gets better rather than just measuring by how much money you're spending, how about the results? are people getting greater opportunities in their lives or safer communities or more jobs, whatever metric. there needs to be measurement. charles: i think ultimately, governor, that this elections season does come down to the notion that, hey, this is a country where historically people who have pulled themselves up by the boot straps have enjoyed enormous success, but the other side's saying that no longer exists or i heard president obama saying it never existed. the government has a role and must take care of you perhaps even cradle to grave. and it feels like to a large degree that other argument is winning. you see the success of a bernie sanders, and we see how hillary clinton is doing in the polls. why is that? why has this old school message of america and american success

faded? >> it's hard to say. that's one of the worries i share with you, charles, and that is you don't want to have a country that's dependent on others. you know, we declared our independence from the british monarchy, and the greatest thing about america is it is a land of opportunity for all based upon their own hard work and ingenuity and diligence. and the government has a role. you have to have tax policies that are competitive for investment and jobs, regulations need to be reasonable, you need to have productive energy policy and also a good education system. and education is primarily a responsibility of the states and localities. and then you want to have safe communities, and that's a shared state and federal responsibility. but it's up to the individual to seize the opportunities of a good education and then apply that skill and that talent to get a job. because i think for most people the best social program of all is a job. if somebody has a job, they're controlling --

charles: yeah. i think ronald reagan said that. before i let you go, i've got a few seconds left, who should be setting this gop agenda? it feels like paul ryan is running a parallel -- for lack of a better word -- campaign, if you will, setting a gop agenda when, in fact, if this is now donald trump's party, should he be running these things past donald trump? who gets to set this agenda? >> well, when i ran for governor, we set the agenda and worked with the legislature that was dominated by democrats to get it done because that's what the people of virginia voted for. ideally, you would have the executive, the presidential candidate and the legislative leaders all working together. in the event that that doesn't happen, paul ryan has taken on that responsibility. and paul ryan, kind of like newt gingrich, is somewhat motivated by ideas. and i think it's very beneficial for candidates running for congress and for the u.s. to say here's what we want to do.

i'd like to see them do some of it this year. charles: right. >> if not this year, next year, and then they can set the agenda. charles: governor allen, thanks a lot. go redskins. >> hell yeah, thanks, charles. charles: donald trump and hillary clinton focusing on each other instead of the top issue for voters, and that happens to be the economy. is it a mistake, especially for donald trump, to lose focus? to charlie gasparino on this. you know, charlie, a lot of people saying, golly, you had this awful jobs number, the week before that you had the inspector general's report on hillary clinton's private server. why let these low-hanging fruits, easy to take and walk into the white house? >> couldn't agree with you more. even his supporters are saying that. i don't know if they're saying that how much to his face. i can tell you that that bloomberg story yesterday detailing the outlines of some meetings seemed surreal where,

you know, governor jan brewer, you know, not exactly a shrinking violate when it came to -- violet when it came to immigration and cultural issues was questioning his sort of obsession with this judge who, by the way, there's no reason why you and i should ever know who judge curiel is, okay? judge curiel should not be a household name. he's a federal judge, yes, appointed by president obama. he's ruling on a fairly insignificant case involving the nation which is whether trump university is, you know, a scam or not. it's a class action suit brought by former students and people associated with it. that is not something that the nation needs to be transfixed on, yet we are. and, you know, listen, it looks like these two candidates given where they're going with their stuff, hillary clinton not denouncing those violent protesters that are trying to stifle free speech at donald trump's rallies, donald trump himself going after this judge endlessly when, you know, we have an economy that's

problematic, it's almost a race to the bottom. you almost want to vote libertarian -- [laughter] or something else. charles: but, charlie, here's the thing though, and i think on this call that donald trump had with his supporters last night, he sort of underscored this at least from what i've read and heard. he's gone against all convention. all conventional wisdom can, he went against it, and he won, and so he rewrote the record books. and maybe, maybe this path, maybe going after this judge is just another intuitive action on donald trump's part that maybe a week from now, a month from the now we'll say, golly, the guy was right. >> yeah, who knows? i could say just from my logical standpoint it makes no sense. and, you know, here's the other thing, charles, i mean, there are certain rights and wrongs. and, you know, maybe, you know, mccarthyism, maybe patting senator mccarthy on the back in the '50s had some short-term gain for certain

politicians and for certain commentators. i will say this, that i'm not a big fan of judge curiel, what i know of his politics, certainly not a big fan of president obama's politics. but when you start bringing up that he can't rule on the case because i believe he's mexican, that's crossing the line. and, you know, right-thinking people need to step in and say that's crossing the line, and, you know, let the political short term -- i think it's short term, but let the chips fall what they may. that is not, i think, a good thing for conservatives to be associating themselves with. charles: a lot of conservatives or at least a lot of republicans have started to distance themselves, although all still pledging their support to donald trump. >> absolutely. charles: charlie, thanks a lot. bernie sanders vowing to fight all the way to the convention. former congressman dennis kucinich says bernie has every right to be there. congressman kucinich, i

understand he's had these, he's had enormous success, he's, you know, participant of the last two -- part of the last two standing, but from a party that's looking at hillary clinton the prumptive, ultimately perhaps the nominee, starting to look weaker and weaker in the polls in part to these endless attacks from bernie sanders, what's his goal? is his goal all about his ego, or does he have a goal associated with the well being of the party? >> well, i don't think his goal is either to assuage his ego or to be particularly concerned about the, quote, well being of the party. look, does the party represent the average american, american working people? people who are concerned about health care and education. these are the issues that bernie sanders hasraised from the beginning. he got into the race in order to illustrate the inequities in our economy. so, you know, i mean -- and he wants to take that point all the way to the convention.

frankly, he's gained enough delegates to do that. charles: well, i mean, there is a difference -- he can have a spot on the convention. we know he will no matter what. but the threats of wrecking the convention, the threats of making this a hostile environment, those sort of things aren't necessarily coming across in a way that i think helps either him or hillary clinton. >> i'm not aware that bernie sanders himself has made any such threats. but i will tell you this, i am very concerned that associated press yesterday basically declared the winner by assuming that 23 superdelegates were going to go with hillary clinton. i mean, why not let the people in new jersey and california and the other states that are voting today make a decision about, you know, when somebody gets the requisite number of delegates? i don't like what i think is an inappropriate use of its journalistic influence for the associated press to, on the eve of this final primary season,

move forward with a declaring hillary clinton the winner. that's not right. charles: you know the irony there is i think earlier in this show, we had someone who thought that would hurt hillary in california where maybe potential voters say, well, she's got it locked in, i'll stay at the beach. >> no, not at all. charles: ultimately, where do you think the party is headed? it seems like you really like what bernie's doing here. it's obviously pushed the agenda to the left. is it possible if hillary does secure the nomination for her to stay where bernie has pushed it so far? >> i would say the whole left-right analysis for the democratic party went out the window -- charles: well, it's really left and far left, right? [laughter] >> oh, no, no, no. that's kind of a trope that mischaracterizes what's happening among democrats nationally. democrats want jobs. they want health care, they want education. i think a lot of republicans do too. and we have a party which is

split, and it's split on principles. this isn't a split over personality. and bernie sanders' candidacy has been spurred because people from all generations are concerned about the direction of a party which lost millions of jobs because of trade which got us into wars that we didn't need to get into. we need to recalibrate the center of the party, and i think that's what bernie sanders' candidacy is trying to do. and i'm not here as an advocate of either campaign. i'm saying that the democratic party has a day of reckoning at that convention, and it's not going to be just about bernie sanders, it's going to be about the future of the party itself. charles: yeah. i agree between him and elizabeth warren, i think you're right. i think that center has been nudged further left for lack of a better term. dennis kucinich, thank you very much. >> thank you. charles: make sure to tune in tonight to our primary coverage, trish regan leads it beginning at 9 p.m. eastern time. all the gang will be there. plus, the white house

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charles: the white house has penned a social media script for hollywood to spread its message on immigration. hollywood a-listers kerry washington and others joining a cause along with many other celebrities, a producer/screen writer doesn't think the white house should get celebrities involved in this at all. lionel, here's the thing, this sort of relationship between the white house and washington, particularly the president obama white house, has been just -- it's been a love fest, and almost anything he puts out as marching orders, they take and they run with it.

>> one long luau. yeah. well, it's an interesting insight, actual, into why this perfidy that is usually called the double standard. you know, shortly after 9/11 there was really an outpouring here in hollywood for a lot of people, typically liberal, had no contacts within the republican party who said, you know, we would really like to answer the national challenge. we want to participate in it, specifically people like robert zemeckis who said we don't want to do films patterned after we fight. and what -- myself and craig kavner invited carville and some people from the white house to come to hollywood, and we had this big meeting, and everyone was there. the head of the motion picture academy, efi, the television academy, and we wanted to talk

about what we could do to help. and rove insisted we will not discuss content. we do not wish to talk to you about what we think you should be putting in these filmses, we do not want to talk to you about policy. the moment a sitting government starts talking to the popular culture about a what you should be doing and saying, you are getting into dangerous orwellian territory. and, of course, he's right. that didn't stop aaron sorkin later claiming they were there to tell us what to do, to excoriate us all and later, actually, naming me in his thing about "30 rock" on the strip as evil bush -- charles: well, lionel -- >> now this comes along, and there's no problem with it because it's in the obama administration. charles: sure. >> therefore, it's good. what it is is that somebody can come to this town, and their

context makes them bad. it's never the content, charles, of what they do. content is irrelevant in hollywood. charles: well, i want to jump in here, and help me and the audience understand this thing. now, we know they're kindred spirits, that they have the same political ideology and leanings, but i've seen movie after movie flop that have been anti-petroleum, that have been anti-gop. i've seen these scripts, and i've seen them flop at the movie theaters, and still they get the green light all the time. and i think that's another part. you can't justify it from an economic point of view, and nevertheless, it supersedes the fact that ideology is driving the major decisions in hollywood. >> that's right. because the content of the anti-fossil fuel film is, though it's poison in the marketplace, it is inherently good by the standards of a hollywood ideology.

and that is everything here. it is your credential as a human being, that you were against the war or whatever these things are. there's no -- you don't distinguish in the hollywood between what is a good film and what is a bad film in terms of content. charles: right. >> it is the spirit that engenders it. people in -- charles: lionel, got to let you go there. really appreciate it, but you're absolutely right. it does not matter. in the meantime, donald trump looking to meet with some key congressional committee chairs, getting refocused back in d.c., next. ♪ ♪

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are proposing a gop overhaul of dodd-frank. market watcher michael block on the importance of this meeting. michael, the public hears dodd-frank all the time. i don't think a lot of people realize it's still not even complete, but it's had a major impact on our lives. >> it's not complete yet, and the problem is the people trying to enforce the regulations don't really understand the business. they never have, they never will, and they're trying to impose things. i think there's a bit of a backlash going on. it's not because suddenly people would like to see wall street make a lot of money. the backlash is there, but suddenly people within the government -- the same folks out there saying we're going to raise $10 trillion -- are realizing if they're going to raise that money, they need liquidity to trade their precious bonds. and they're realizing that with wall street being stepped on by volcker, by dodd-frank, maybe they need to let loose and let the liquidity come back, because it's not here. charles: is there a happy medium for someone like you? in other words, should the banks

separate operations, you know? should their risk be anywhere associated or influenced even the commercial side of business, those kind of things, would you look at something like that? >> look, i am the one who knocks, charles. [laughter] i'm the guy who, like, breaks -- the iconoclast who breaks through and says we need the little guys, that's what i do all day. charles: so, all you needed was was -- give 'em your web site. >> yeah, we'll do that. thank you. but the point is this, creative destruction, how do businesses evolve. evolution is being thwarted because we don't know what the next innovations to make life better is. let me take it a step further, what about everyone's 401(k)s and pensions? getting them the best prices for stocks, they can't because the natural liquidity providers, the big banks, aren't there. maybe congressman hensarling's on to something. the question is, will the public accept it and allow it?

charles: and yet earlier today elizabeth warren was out with scathing tweets about hensarling and the risk that the republicans want to put back into the system. >> oh, those cold-hearted republicans who were saying raise the capital buffer and loosen the laws. there'd be betterly quid -- better liquidity out there helping your constituents who are invested in the markets. people don't get that. there's a middle grounds here. if she doesn't want to meet in the middle ground, they she cand her breath until she turns blue. charles: i think when you talk main street, it feels like this is where it's having a major impact. >> you know, banks are extending loans, the question is what it is -- charles: but they're doing it very slowly, right? >> commercial industrial loans are growing. you know what's growing a lot though? credit card debt. today we're going to get the april consumer credit reading. that march reading scared the daylights out of me, charles, because you had that, and then what happened?

lower job growth. so let's do the math here. less job creationing, higher credit card balances. sooner or later this has to get paid off. charles: the fed would say that was the start of the virtuous cycle, that people are going out and spending money that they have or don't have. that was their goal in the first place. >> oh, great. what happened with that jobs number? why is consumer credit ballooning? is it good? i moved into my current house a little less than five years ago. the folks that lived there before, they have kids that are starting college. guess what they get in the mail every day? credit card applications going to their old address because the credit card companies are aggressively going after this. how is that going to end well? i'm not saying run to the hills, but eventually that ends badly. charles: i like that you brought that up. this is a number people don't look at, but that last one was the highest in a long time. i'll be watching with you. >> 3:00. charles: hey, speaking of those millennials that moved out, they're looking to make bank at

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charles: so you know those milt lineal, right? they don't really care about money to, having fun? 250,000 of them applied to goldman sachs for summer jobs this year. gop strategist giano caldwell, says the banking jobs, looking

pretty popular there amongst your crew. i don't get it. either yolo, fire of missing out. >> right. charles: i thought it was about having fun right now, don't worry about the money thing? they don't want to be like their parents and so fixated on cash? >> exactly. thanks for having me, charles. you and i both know about this, millenials tend to be idealistic until time to pay a bill. that sums it up. this is from the millennial perspective why they're doing this now. we know in the great recession 8.8 million jobs were lost. that was due in part to the financial industry. a lot of millenials saw it as executives not going to jail and not paying the price and an unstable market. since that was the case, folks being very idealistic chose not to apply for jobs now, where we see up tick, what, 250,000 people applying for jobs over at goldman sachs which is up 40%

uptick from 2008. charles: you know it is interesting too, on that note, even president obama really urged millenials, college students, hey, don't go to wall street. go to silicon valley. become a community organizer, but don't go down there. all of sudden looking at evil guys on wall street, when the heck, i need the cash. >> that is another reason why bernie sanders did so well because he demonized wall street, just like the president has done but i think the real difference here, people are seeing that they need to make money. entry level job at say, goldman sachs is about $80,000. that doesn't really compare to any other field because you're not making that kind of money. we know jobs that president obama added to the economy post recession have been low-wage jobs. if you want to be walmart greeter there is plenty of opportunity for you. if you want to make very good money, you have to go into industry like financial services industry and banks are looking to make those environments more applicable to millenials taste

and style, more comfortable. you can wear jeans, open wardrobe, that kind of thing. charles: even kanye concerts are expensive. i took my son to one couple years ago. when millenials find out who fico is they have to share the cash i let me also say this. there is a large segment of millenials before i let you go, are waiting for the right gig. they get to chill out at home, live in the basement, they're waiting for the right job to come around. is that mentality going to change, somehow you start with ideal job, maybe you get gold watch the first day of work than ste la? >> no. that is completely crazy. i will be honest, started working at six teen, really 14, social security administration, 25 hours a week and summers and winters. i continued to work. wasn't necessarily what i wanted to begin with, what i took from there, and now i'm here in charles payne on fox business. charles: hello. hello. that is what i'm talking about, baby. >> thanks, charles.

charles: to impact on small businesses, particularly with this year's election. we have a small business expert not holding back that democrats will flat-out kill small businesses. susan, look fantastic. >> thank you, charles, great to be here. charles: some say they have already kid them. prime example of president obama's regulations. lowest amount of entrepreneurship in this country but it could get worse? >> it could. we hear a lot about shrinking middle class, and democrats want to talk about middle class all the time what they will do. it is not about $15 an hour minimum wage or raising the overtime eligibility. it is about getting small businesses growing again. that is the way people elevate themselves into the middle class. your former guest said something about starting work, 14, 15 years old. i started my first business 15 years old abuse there was hope i wanted to build wealth to better myself. that hope is gone. charles: i was talking to michael block. we were talking about dodd-frank. when the democrats talk about the evil, these large, evil businesses and start to talk

about imposing regulations on them, fees on them, taxes on them, the big boys get around that. it is small businesses that can't. that is why people don't see why they should even start them anymore. >> you know what? it is plain and simple, they just don't get it. these regulations are absolutely ludicrous. they cost businesses trillions of dollars every year. costs 36% more for a small business to comply wit. just recently small business entrepreneurship council and national manufacturers association launched a website, rethink red tape.com. it matches real studies to real cases, this is what is happening, why small businesses are dying off. to your point, charles, that is why we have such a low number of entrepreneurial startups. charles: what is the how do we turn it around? what is number one thing to turn it around. let i know you don't want to see democrat in office but let's say we get a republican. what is the first thing donald

trump might do or say might spark the idea you can tinker in your garage and invent something and change the world? >> first thing that will have to happen, get government out of our businesses. that is the big thing. get rid of all nonsensical regulations that are really killing small businesses. we also got to have tax code reformation. certainly the tax code is complex. and it costs small businesses 206% more to comply with the complexity of the tax code than it does a large company. we have to make it resulting in that. not just corporate tax code but also personal tax code because most small businesses are pass-through entities. charles: what is interesting, the war on big business is actually made it bigger business bigger and deterred everyone. susan, thank you very much. really appreciate it. central americans flooding the border back to 2014 levels. a lot of people say because it is free obamacare. that is one of the new lures. we have the senate reaction next.

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charles: central americans, they are rushing into the u.s., illegally, at levels we haven't seen since 2014 there. is a push to extend health care to illegals in california. to republican congressman, senator, rather, mike rounds. how, senator, thanks for joining me. how do we get this under control, particularly with a state like california which seems to ignore the will of the federal government with sanctuary cities and some of the things that have gone on there for so long? now rolling out the red carpet, extending obamacare which explicitly was never intended

for illegals to illegals? >> first of all you follow the law. they may very well if they want to. they can pass a law in california but you simply can't add 390,000 people to the obamacare roles and make it legal. under federal law it is illegal and the president, there is no way that the president should allow it. although we know that based upon this administration's past activities sometimes they look at the law a little differently than most americans do. so what we'll have to do in the senate to make darn sure that it is very clear we can not be using federal funds for this type of approach for individuals who are illegally here in the united states. so 390,000 individuals, who would be eligible under this proposal, we don't think it is right thing to do and we'll have so stand up to make it very clear. charles: yet, when people talk about sanctuary cities for instance, harboring illegal immigrants who committed crimes, even felonies people wonder does

the federal government, particularly under democratic administration the ability or even the will to stop california from pushing this through? >> clearly we don't have the will because it would take majority of both the house and senate. the senate it would take 60 votes. we don't have 60 votes to get that done. if we did, if the president were to veto it, it would take-two thirds vote in the house and senate. that is one of the things it is critical we retake the presidency of the united states. not just for that purpose but someone who will be appointing the next supreme court justice. much rather have it be conservative appointee as opposed to a liberal appointee. charles: the word is obviously out about this potential new ruling or new law in california. there has been a massive influx of illegals coming up, particularly from central america, and it has been focused on kids. 2014, arizona, for instance, 178 kids. already through march, 1500. the number is exponentially higher. would a border wall be the answer to something like that? would it have to be, listen,

even if you get through, no matter what we're not going to take care of you if you are here illegally? >> more than just a wall. there are some places where you could put up barricades and so forth but reality you can't put a wall down the rio grande. what you have to have is adequate border security. you have to defend your borders, whatever it takes. more than just that. you have to revise the immigration system in the united states. you have to take care of being able to identify those individuals who legally can go to work and those that can't at the work place so that employer can look and check and have legitimate reasons to believe that he has got at good, federal system in place that tells him whether or not the individual applying should be able to go to work in the united states or not. it is a comprehensive reform package but you've got to have border reform. you have got to have border protection built into this or the rest doesn't work. charles: the will to enforce it all. senator mike rounds, thank you very much. appreciate your time. >> thank you. charles: donald trump traveling to texas next week for fund-raising blitz. we have one of those

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everyone, the party included. >> yes he is having joint fund-raisers between the rnc and the trump team and we are hosting fund-raisers in san antonio, houston and dallas. it is oil-rich state even though the price of oil and gas is down a little bit. charles: we're off those lows. >> governor abbott and rick perry endorsed trump. it should go well because considering in 2012 we raised over 25 million in texas. i do want to say one things to donors expressing hart burn over this week's comments about judge curiel. it is about donald trump's messaging i think is brilliant. take a step back and look at it, compare i had on one hand to ted cruz who was consistent with his messaging but didn't incite any passion. trump on other hand is provocative. throws a statement out there -- charles: you're okay with the comments? >> well, to a degree. charles: you're from texas. houston, i think houston's

population is vehemently anti, gone completely other way. dallas, this is something you think would play well in texas, particularly future, gop future of the party? >> well, we hope so. we need all, some of the hispanic voters we're going to lose in california, possibly arizona and texas with the independent voters coming in and i think today's story will tell the tale. i think he will do extremely well in the six states and with that, he will be able to carry that momentum into his fund-raising. we're hopeful we'll raise $4 million in texas. they raised $650,000 in one day in california. charles: hillary clinton talked about the former san antonio mayor perhaps being on her ticket and hopefully talking about winning texas. seems like a pipe-dream. seemed like less of a pipe-dream now though than four years ago. what is the deal with that? republican party in texas concerned about this at all? >> no. that's a hail mary on hillary

clinton's party. i think trump is possibly going to turn some red states blue. we're certainly looking into that. and, i truly believe he has the momentum going forward. he is shaking the very institutions which have made up the status quo in this country and that is giving people hope. apathetic voters are now getting out there and expressing enthusiasm and voting. charles: what do you make though, i mean, you were a ted cruz person. >> yes. charles: you made the switch. you're on the trump train now which you're turning into the money train but what do you make of the still reluctance or the lukewarm embrace of donald trump by establishment, for instance, paul ryan, who today had comments, comments he is observing this curiel thing a lot differently than you are. >> yes, i'm a little bit disappointed. i really feel strongly that we don't want to lose the supreme court and we need to get behind our nominee. i'm disappointed with mitt romney, he is not attending

the convention for example. i don't understand it. while you might not find the perfect candidate in donald trump, do we want another third term of obama policies? charles: right, yeah. supreme courts, you have to hit them on that, over and over again. supreme court, supreme court, supreme court. mica, thank you very much. love your earings. >> thank you. charles: coming up ahead, tropical storm colin wreaking havoc in florida, causing the governor of the state to issue a state of emergency. is this just the beginning of a wild winter weather-filled summer? we'll be right back. ♪ ♪

charles: governor scott declaring a state of emergency in parts of florida as storm colin has moved through the state and the big question now, is this a sign of things to come? to meteorologist joe bastardi. joe, we've kind of not had any sort of really terrible weather.

in fact we haven't had sort of kind of things that dread or armageddon predicted after hurricane katrina predicted years ago but this is not a good start. >> last time we had two storms this quick, back in 27. that is the year of sandy and what we're really concerned about the overall pattern similar to what we saw in the 1950s. we have a la mean yaw, opposite the el nino last year and that is a much more conducive sign for atlantic-based development but the water is very warm in close to the united states and what my big concern is, you get systems like joaquin, except they're in closer to the united states and they deepen very, very quickly, intensify within a day or two of landfall and we're concerned about that during the heart of the season, charles, which is august, september, october. these fast starts sometimes can be deceptive. in this particular year because of our forecast at weather bell, we those it would be in close

year, high impact year for the united states. it may be a precores sore to the main season but that's not till later. chances are you have a big lull next 30 to 45 days where not much goes on. charles: when you say inland, you talk about the volatile, violent nature of these but would they be short lived? in other words, are they quick hit or misses or see the kind of storms that wreak havoc across multiple states? >> well, that is an interesting question too because, what i don't think we're going to see is a long of these long track storms intense in the eastern atlantic. what we'll have to worry about as they get closer and closer to the united states that they intensify, and depends where they go a lot of times. you know, i keep looking back at the 1950s and similarities to the pattern now with the 1950s and i keep asking myself, how are we getting off so lightly give enthe ocean temperatures very similar? warm water is stacked in the

western atlantic ocean in the basin like that. so what you have to be concerned about -- charles: what you're saying we've been lucky to a large degree and our luck is bound to run out. >> there is no such thing as luck. the atmosphere does what the atmosphere deck states. we're saying overall this pattern is conducive to the idea that storms getting closer to the united states are intensifying as they come to the coast, not weakening like we've been fortunate enough to see over the past several years. charles: the jury is still out to some hurricanes, hurricanes, later on in the season? you're still not sure on that just right? >> no i believe we'll have big impact on the seats son in the united states, in heart of the season, september, october. i think it is warm summer, endless summer into september and october this year for much of the country. charles: joe, thank you very much, talk to you real soon. don't forget to watch my show tonight. we'll follow up on market coverage.

markets breaking out. meantime we have primary coverage tonight. trish regan leads that 9:00 p.m. eastern time. you can see right there an amazing panel. of course lou dobbs at 7:00 will start the ball rolling. meantime, speaking of trish regan, here she is. take it away for the next hour. trish: thank you, charles. thank you everyone. voting underway in six states, race in california, the big prize could not be tighter. ap reporting that hillary clinton reached the magic number of delegates needed to clinch the nomination, but bernie sanders? he isn't giving up. he is hoping for victory in the golden state that could throw hillary clinton's future as the democratic nominee into question. i am trish regan. welcome, everyone, to "the intelligence report." hillary clinton making history, the first woman ever to nab the nomination for president. but could that news hurt turnout today, potentially giving bernie the victory he so desperately needs?