with the latest on the orlando terror attack. stuar stuart:. >> orlando to command we have shots fire, on requested you stay back, don't enter the scene. >> gunfire, gunfire! >> all personnel, you're not in a position of cover. >> and took the bandana off and tied it up, and the bull hole in his back. >> after the second shot, there was a pause and it started shooting, shooting. >> rapid fire and he changed and another ammunition and then changed another ammunition. >> monday morning, less than 48 hours since an islamic terrorist killed 49 at a gay nightclub in orlando. with just five months to a presidential election, this outrage, this attack on america does have and should have great impact on our politics.

what will our leaders do about this? already the lines are being drawn. the president, president obama, hillary clinton and bernie sanders, to them it is a law enforcement issue. within hours they were calling for gun control. much was made of the type of weapon the terrorist used and the fact that he had bought it legally days before the attack. gun violence, they said, and hate. donald trump had a very different response. he had already called for a temporary ban on foreign muslims coming to america and quickly linked the outrage to islamic terror. he sharply criticized the president and hillary clinton for refusing to do the same. to him, it is terror, take action, forceful action. both europe and america are forced to confront the same problem. the presence of a large immigrant population, some of whom hold values directly opposed to western society and they're killing us in our own country. on this monday, june 13th we

surely want the president and cabinet to recognize the threat and tell us who and what is behind it. no double talk, please. no bending over backwards to be sensitive. tell us clearly how you plan to kill the scourge of islamic terror. here is what donald trump side precisely on fox and friends this morning, what we need to do to fight terror, roll tape. >> we have generals that feel we can win this thing so fast and so strong, but we have to be furious. for a short period of time and we're not doing it. so ridiculous. stuart: joining us now is genera four-star generally. general. i want to repeat what he said, we have generals who say we can win this thing we have to be furious. what say you. >> the reality is this, isis has established a sanctuary in

syria from which all of their operations are conducted and motivate followers to kill, sadly the attack in orlando. they've been in the sanctuary since 2012. we have not taken that out. the major lesson after 9/11 was simply this, we have permitted the sanctuary in afghanistan for years even after they bombed our embassies in africa. the result was in fact 9/11. this sanctuary should have been gone a long time ago. we have capability to do it the arabs stood up and said they're willing to do it. the president of the united states refused to do it and even he's passing the responsibility of destroying isis to the next president. that's how irresponsible we are here. stuart: do you think that the american public would get

behind a serious and significant military attack on isis? >> yes, absolutely. if we make the case, they already understand that isis is killing americans and also killing europeans, and we're throwing out a lot of false issues. it's not about the guns or the means that isis uses. if they couldn't get an ak-47 they would find another weapon, a bomb or whatever to do their killing for them. france has the most restrictive gun laws in europe and isis had no problem getting weapons there to kill french citizens. that is a false issue. the issue is, isis itself, their ideology and their determination to commit jihad in the middle east, but around the world and it must be stopped. >> if you took serious military action against isis in its own strong hold there would be significant, as you say, collateral damage, civilians would be killed in large numbers.

are we prepared for that? >> civilians would not be killed in large numbers. it would take a ground force to destroy isis. we cannot destroy them by air, we can only use an air campaign to support that. and when a ground force is there, they're not going to kill innocent civilians. they are going to safeguard the civilians. yes, some would be killed, i'm not suggesting that that would not happen, but that would not be the intent. that would only be the byproduct much combat operations. if we were part of an arab coalition, we would certainly have tremendous influence on their behavior on the battlefield. >> now, you're a military guy, do you have any thoughts on what we should do inside america's borders? >> well, i rely on the federal bureau of investigation. i mean, clearly, intelligence is the crucial denominator here. we have people living in our

communities who are radicalizing themselves, motivated or possibly directed by isis. when that behavior starts to change, people must notice it and must report on it. and we have to encourage that, good intelligence is absolutely the crucial denominator here. it can get out of control. look it in brussels, belgium, there were 800 sympathizers, the police estimated, who would not report or identify known, known radical islamists who were living in their community. we never want something like that to happen in america. so we need vigilance here and we also need an educated public. we need to talk to them frankly, stuart, about what this is. it is radical islam. we have to explain the ideology to them. we have to make sure that people understand what this movement is all about and we're not doing that. >> general jack keane, thank you for joining us today, we appreciate it. >> good talking to you, stuart.

stuart: we are going to step away from the terrorist news for just a moment. we have this, microsoft is buying linkedin, they're going to pay $26.2 billion. linkedin stock is soaring on that news as you might expect because the purchase price is $196 per share. and microsoft is paying all cash. that leaves twitter. what happens to them? is anybody interested in twitter? that stock is up about 6% premarket. lots of developments following what is a huge deal, microsoft buying linkedin for $26 billion. we'll obviously have more on this, including how twitter starts off the day and linkedin at 9:30 when the market ohpens. get back to the terror story, that's what it is, it's an islamic terror story. ashley: we do know as we delve

into the background of omar mateen. two separate incidents the in 2013, co-workers raised a red flag, saying this guy had ties to terrorism. they interviewed and couldn't find a credible link. in 2014 connections to a bomber tubar. he was on a terrorist watch list, stuart, at the time, but because those investigations were dropped, he was removed. we know he bought these guns, ar-15 assault weapon and the .9 millimeter handgun in the last week, last 12 days, he did it legally, he had no criminal record. he worked as a security guard for a security company and one of his co-workers constantly told the people who ran that company, this guy is dangerous. he is unhinged. i do not want to work with him anymore.

he says they did nothing, he quit. he said this individual, omar mateen bombarded him with texts and phone calls harassing him. so certainly the background of this guy pointed to someone very unstable and also linked to marcus robinson. marcus robinson was the man who turned to islam after being a fbi informant, was sent to jail and is believed to have radicalized 36 prisoners while he was in jail. he's since got out of jail, but runs a website that uses-- let me just finish, of which we know that mateen was a part of that website. to me, it's remarkable how all of these flags still did know the result in anything other than questioning twice. stuart: it's political correctness. we must be sensitive to muslims, therefore, we cannot pursue muslims and cleared of

terror. >> despite the fact declaring war on us. also in the apartment complex where he lived, he never talked to them or the neighbors apparently. >> we're going to stop being so sensitive, don't we? >> we do. we're pretending and we heard that from the president and from hillary clinton yesterday, we are pretending this isn't happening. to blame this on guns is like blaming benghazi on a youtube video. it keeps americans from being able to address the reality of what is occurring here and let me just say, as a gay woman, to hear the argument that this is a hate crime is obscene in that they're now trying to separate out americans who happen to be gay, victims of the terror attack, from the heroes at fort hood, from the victims there at san bernardino, from every other terror victim around the world, the fact is, this is an attack on americans that their attempts to disconnect the dots

even through yesterday and that we do stand together whether you be gay or straight, black or white, latino. this if exhibits all americans and that attack yesterday confirms that and remarkable, the president, the commander-in-chief is still effectively covering, in a certain way, for the people who are doing that. stuart: tammy bruce, stay there. we want more from you this hour. come in jeff dewitt, trump guy. the left is all over donald trump this morning, for example, they say that mr. trump's temporary ban on muslims coming into the country would not have stopped this guy, therefore, trump is wrong. they' they're-- >> depends how far you go back. you know, from what we know right now, i don't want to be wrong in saying this, it looks like his father had previously pledged allegiance to afghani

taliban, depends how far you go back. the bottom line, you have to do something. the politicians in this country, way to get reelected, do nothing, say nothing, and it's a terrible event. we can't just say it's terrible and go back to life as normal. the only way to do it is to address the problem at its root and quite frankly, donald trump is the only person offering a solution to do that. maybe you don't agree with the solution. come up with a better one. don't just attack the person offering a solution and i heard hillary clinton about 40 minutes ago do an interview this morning and her solution was, well, we need to do more to get people on a list so that local law enforcement can watch them. then she blames the republican congress and then she said we shouldn't let politics divide us. what does that do? what solution is that offering? again, if you don't degree with donald trump one thing, you have to respect he's a man of action and not words and wants to do something. >> earlier this morning, donald

trump on fox news said, they can't believe obama is acting this way, not mentioning islamic terror. there's something going on. do you have any more information about what he might have meant by that? >> well, again, president obama still has never said the words radical islamic terrorism. we are being attacked by radical islam in this country and bringing more, you know, people in to carry out those attacks isn't going to solve the problem and hillary clinton's plan of bring more people in and try to integrate ourselves with that culture, i don't see how that's going to stop these attacks from happening. donald trump wants to enforce our border and understand who is coming to this country and make sure that the people we bring into this country, that we put in our neighborhoods, next to our families, our children, we understand they're not going to carry out these sort of attacks, that they want to become americans and live a peaceful life and work for the

betterment of our society. quite frankly-- >> mr. trump i believe around 3:30 eastern time it make a major speech on terror. you run his campaign in arizona, do you have any inkling what he might say? >> i have not. but if you go to donald j trump.com, and read the statement, that shows what he believes. ignore what the media says donald trump is saying, go to his website directly and read his words. that right there will show you that he is a man of action and he does have actual policy ideas. there's no silver bullet. nothing will fix it with one stroke, but we have to move in not being politically correct and searching for more than one answer. stuart: thank you. >> thank you, stuart. stuart: look at this, please, from the huffington post on the

orlando shooting. first, a statement from hillary clinton, full quote, long quote, the lbgt community, please know that you have millions of allies across our country. i am one of them. we will keep fighting for your life to leave freely, openly and without fear. hate has absolute no place in america. and donald trump, quote in or put in the huffington post. 50 people dead and donald trump writes appreciates the congrats on radical terrorism. they left out the rest of trump's tweet where he says he wants-- >> what you don't see is important, we have to expect this is the case, even as it's unfolding, we don't know the total number of dead. many people are critically injured, but this is what they're willing to do when really, this is a crime.

this is terrorism that transcends partisanship, transcends race and everything, we've got to have leadership and yet, they're still worried, for some reason the left is worried if we talk about terrorism that they'll be in trouble somehow. i also have noted a big tweet over the weekend for me went viral. if the fbi and homeland security interviewed this man and knew about him and let him go when he was no problem. how are we supposed to know that in syrian migrants. and all of the questions have to be asked, about the obama's approach and attitude. and working on the immigration transportation that was involved with the government, if it's a u.s. subsidiary of the british company, and largest in the world and that there's links there with him as well. that's a company that he works for. stuart: that's news, that's fascinating.

>> we must address this. ashley: others questioned by the fbi who have questionable connections and having been let go. stuart: the 101st isis sympathizer person was interviewed. 101 of them so far. the first thing investors look for after a terror attack is some kind of market reaction. okay, there's very little direct response. now, stocks are going to be down today, probably not because of the terror attack, although there may be some anxiety in the background after what happened in orlando. one thing we will be looking at closely is gun stocks after call for the gun control. generally they go up, we'll see in 13 minutes. i just want to say that the reacts are reacting both in asia and europe is down big because of this case, it's believed it gives more validity to those in the u.k. who want to get out.

stuart: because of the migrant link. ashley: there is a link. orlando suggests that maybe the brits will be more likely to get out. ashley: fear of terrorism. stuart: that hurts the market liz: and the voter polls are moving toward great britain leaving the euro zone. stuart: linkedin is going to be way up at the opening bell. 26.2 billion for it and all crash. moth has the cash, it's going to happen. microsoft will be down two bucks, roughly 3% when that market opens up again. that's in 12 minutes' time. do we take a break at this point? no, we do not. zuhdi jasser is with us, come on in, please. we always think of you as a moderate muslim, an american guy, you served 11 years in the american navy. now this. does islam have a basic problem with gays?

it looks like islam does. straighten it out, if you can. >> well, certainly the leadership and most of the interpretations that dominate our fate community are homophobic and in the 12th century. and comes to women minority, too. with iran, they threw them off the cliff. it's amazing how hypocritical president obama is and we called him that when he went to a mosque. there was a mosque that had this, and you would hold christians for. at a mosque that was homopho homophobic, and no one wants to

make the connection in the administration, academia, and otherwise, that isis has against gays, against jews, against women. stuart: there's an obvious question, why should america bring in more people who do not share our values and some of those people are actively killing us. why should we bring all muslims into the country? >> we should stop all i am great lakes, they could lie against their faith, again, when it sort of becomes a process for a policy that doesn't have a solution yet. the solution is to create clearances and a vetting process against islamism and jihadism. once you do that, our biggest threat is actually the muslims that are internal, in homeland security, in the military, et cetera. and the global mochl and jihad,

until we can do that, we ar take lated in our reform, two pages and if they signed it, include recognition of central identity as equality. if muslims sign that they can be part of the solution and vetted for clearances. if they don't then they are part of the problem and should not have security clearances or allowed entry into our hallowed country. mari maria:. stuart: thank you for being with us. we're joined by an eyewitness to the terror in orlando. i want to come to the-- not interested in the politics, you were there, and saw it, and walking by outside. take us through it, what did you see? >> actually in my friend's apartment, i was asleep when the gunfire erupted what actually woke me up.

his apartment was 100 meters catty corner from the club pulse. there were the injured fleeing away from the club and scattered everywhere and the first responders began to arrive and take the people out of there. stuart: you saw people coming out of the club running for their lives, i guess, bloody, injured, wounded, you is a that out of your window? >> yes, all of this, people, you've seen the video where they're applying tourniquets from ripped up shirts and bandanas, helping to road the wounded into the medical seniors adfrjts you woke up in the middle of the night and you heard the gunshots and saw this massive presence. what did you say? >> at first i thought it was an

altercation in the club. hours later when it ended, the numbers so huge now, first 20, 30, now 50. it was shocking to find out what i had been a witness to. stuart: you look a little shocked, nick, you're a witness to something and you look shaken up. >> yeah, you know, it's only been 24 hours, but it feels mo like 72 right now. it's hard to come to grip if i could have been involved in it. that's not the case, but being right there. stuart: appreciate you being here today. for you and for all. thank you. >> thank you. stuart: you wanted to get another point in from zuhdi jasser and talking about gays and! >> especially with that young man, the clubs and life style.

when you're in a club like that, you're free to have a good time, you're relaxed, you're with your friends and this is something that's important, we see in orlando and response, when it comes to blood donations the nature how they've responded. when it comes to the gay community and this is how we're all the same and at us, it's a target to minority and people who don't conform and that comes down to the gay community, to women, and especially when you're dealing with a frame work that you make sure that people stay on target, and that's why they come after us. stuart: less than 48 hours from the attack, my feelings this morning are anger. >> it is anger. stuart: i'm mad as hell about this. >> you're responding to the-- >> to the attacks. >> that's the key, that america's been attacked.

some people want us to look at that as, again, a gay hate crime. this is about america being attacked and we're in this together. stuart: in a moment we'll take you to the new york stock exchange where a moment of silence will be observed. we'll observe the moment of silence beginning now. [moment of silence]

>> that was one minute of silence on the new york stock exchange in recognition of the horror attack in orlando on saturday night. here is how the market is going to open. we will be down. this is not necessarily a direct response to what happened in orlando. it's an indirect response here, which we will explain shortly. we'll be down about 70, 75 points at the opening bell. the price of gold is up this morning, again, probably no direct link to the attack in orlando, but it is up 12 bucks at 1288 per ounce.

the business news is from moth and linkedin. it will be up $50, why? because microsoft is buying it all cash 26.2 billion. up goes linkedin. microsoft is down about $2. look at the 10-year treasury yield, this is a key prompt of interest rates, an indicator of global economy, america's economy and the flight to safety. look at that, liz liz: that's a record. we haven't seen action in the gold like this for a long time. wall street telling the idea that the u.k. may leave the euro zone. that's why there's a flight to safety and also the action of 10-year. before that market opens. two and a half minutes, i want to draw your attention to this, front page of the daily news.

n.r.a. the headline of the daily news, i'm interpreting that to say, it's the gun lobbies fault, the n.r.a.'s fault. that to me is outrageous. >> you know who the n.r.a. is, it's the american people. america is the problem, america is the great satan it's our fault and this is how you cover it at the new york post. stuart: that's what you should have. >> this is the news, that's the distraction, but also condemnation of the american people themselves. a number of people killed last night inevitably were combn owners. there was heroic. one young man was shot three times. another was a nurse stopping his bleeding. americans are remarkable people and we were attacked because of nature of who we are.

and has done-- >> well said. the market opens in 90 seconds. a brief point we need earlier. why they're opening down. there is no direct link to orlando with you, but an indirect link. and you too, lez. america makes the brits more likely-- >>. ashley: starting in europe and asia, a gives a push for leaving, and this is what we'll be facing liz: there are a number of market indicators saying that u.k. may leave the euro zone bye-- >> it's bounded way down. >> pound down, gold up. ensure the corporate debt. >> so we're saying with the hike hood of the brits leaving europe, that puts nervousness

into american detractors. >> increase the volatility. oil is getting a jump down which doesn't help. >> the 10-year. >> and wrap it up together and look what you've got the opening of the stock market on a monday morning following a terror attack and incorrectly, to cover that terror' attack, we're down. 17,800, it's monday morning after the orlando attack and we have opened down, but it is not a huge selloff. there's a big deal going on and that is linkedin to be acquired by microsoft. 26.2 billion dollars. it's all cash, that's the big deal in the background today. and we have microsoft down and-- >> microsoft not under a lot of

pressure here, you would think that would go down further because of the all cash deal. you can afford it and watch twitter mopping and yelp as well. the thought on wall street, they're wondering when twitter will be acquired. >> keith fitz-gerald is with us, joining us to cover the marketing open this monday morning. >> steve, to you first, i'm saying that the market is down a little bit, indirectly, because of the orlando event and you say what? steve cortez? >> you know, stuart, i agree with you, by the way, it may seem in a way crass or disrespectful we're talking about money when american families are mourning loss of loved ones, but as americans, what do we do in the wake of tragedy? we go to work. the markets are trading and i think you're exactly right it's an indirect effect, the orlando shooting because i think it will give more credence to the leave camp in britain which has

seen some decent momentum lately. trend in that vote is going toward exit, toward leaving the eu. one of the primary drivers of the folks in favor of leaving, they're fearful that trance and germany are full of unvetted islamists who want to do harm to westerners. i think it's a fear and gains credence. >> steve cortez, you're a trump guy, get back to you in a moment. keith fitz, the market is only down 45 points at this point. >> well, you know, i can't believe i'm going to say this, stuart, but unfortunately, terrorism has become a global problem we're going to learn to live with. what that means is that the dea death, as callus as this is, the death of 50 or 100 people is not a big deal when you think of thousands affected by a chemical and nuclear attack. and one person valuable to me, i'm mad as you know what, and the market is off here.

>> and what we want for officials, from the candidates for the presidency is a plan, what are you going to do to stop this and kill it. that's what we want, right, keith? >> that's the thing, stuart. we confuse having a plan with actually doing something about it in this country. if you look at the political response lately, normally i don't do politics, but if you want at the political response, what the market needs is confidence and neither candidate has gone out and said we're going to do x, y, z. one candidate, trump says i want to take action, which is closer to the mark. the american people need the confidence to say, hey, we're okay in this country and if they want to live the way-- >> we've got someone tammy bruce, join the conversation. not financial, you're political, but go. >> look, this is so beyond this notion of how open we are. we've proven that from the beginning of the establishment of this country. we know, we're--

we've taken the most immigrants than every other country combined. we know who we are, we've established that since september 11th 2001, we've embraced muslims and shown ourselves time and time again, we now have got to have the courage to say america first, for once, so that we remain here to be the shining city on the hill for everyone who wants to come. we've got to be able to have the confident to say, we matter. stuart: back to the markets. >> no disagreement there. >> okay. stuart: we're four minutes into the open, into the trading session on a monday morning, and look, we're down 30 points. that's it. 30 points, we were expecting a loss of maybe 80 or 90, not thus far, four minutes in, we're down just 4 points. how about the price of oil. where is it this morning? it's down, but it's at 48 a barrel. not much movement this morning. the s&p 500 approaching all-time record highs and still up there.

down only 4 points on a 2091 index. under amour, the steph curry shoe, it's been skewered on social media. stocks in the news this morning, outside of politics and terror, early reviews of the steph curry shoe, not great. not that big a deal for under amour, down 14 cents period. apple developers, they've got a conference today, a smarter siri is expected, not helping the stock at 98. amazon preparing to launch a streaming music service, no impact on the stock. steve cortez, back to the linkedin purchase by microsoft and outcome for twitter. twitter, it's 5% higher. what do you make of that, steve? >> yeah, you know, twitter, it's interesting, a tool that i love to use. both as provider of information and as a participant in a

consumer of information on twitter, but it's a stock that can't seem to find its bearings. does the purchase of linked in raise for a potential take over of twitter? i think it does. among that microsoft making this acquisition would be, it's become a bond-- microsoft trades now in the late 1990's. it's really more of a grandmother bond stock in my view rather than a growth. [laughter] >> oh. grandma-- >> you're a newcomer to the show. i'm a grandfather nine times over and i've owned microsoft for years and years and years and i've been milking the capital gains and the dividend yields, and right. [laughter] let's ask-- go around the block here, apple has $230 billion in cash.

way more than microsoft or anybody else. the question, if microsoft is spending 26 billion, what's apple going to spend? >> but the more natural fit for twitter would be a google purchase, why? because google has a deal with twitter to stream-- hang on, sorry about that. >> i think it's a perfect fit. apple's got all the cash and what's it going to do. stock that has essentially ground to a halt because of lack of innovation and-- >> and i need a pony, i need a pony. stuart: keith. >> stuart, it's steve. regarding apple, because i think there's an interesting political angle, too, apple, a lot of companies that are keeping hoards of cash overseas because of the tax of the-- >> hang on, apple's cash hoard 90% overseas and they would maybe have to have cash to do a deal like that. stuart: what are you saying? >> i'm saying--

>> this will they get a change of administration and they get a lower corporate tax rate? >> that's one of the reasons my candidate, president trump is going to release an investment flow in this country like never before. cutting the corporate tax rate, 15%, would encourage them to come home and invest in america and encourage growth. stuart: steve, we don't have many market watchers and investors who come out and say trump is my guy. trump will unleash a load of investment and you're hispanic descent, i believe, are you not? >> i sure am. i certainly am. son of an immigrant. by the way, so is donald trump the son of an immigrant and married to an immigrant. so the idea that he's racist or anti-immigrant is-- as a hispanic, look, border control is important even to hispanics. people like my father who came here and did it legally, and did it the correct way.

also, the hispanics growth is incredibly important. people of color, african-americans or latinos have done terribly in this recovery because they don't own a lot of stocks generally, and so there has not been much recovery for them since the financial crisis. they're worried about issue and not monolith. and important for hispanics and this hispanic is growth. we need to start growing again. >> the g-word. stuart: can we have growth in this economy? solve a lot of problems. goes a long way. and one particular group of stocks, we promised to look at. those are gun stocks. they usually do-- look at that. >> you predicted it. stuart: well, look, the first thing that the president and hillary clinton did after the outrage in orlando was to call for gun control. when any leading politician calls for gun control, those people think i better get my gun now, the gun stocks go up. >> awol in the statement was

the term islamic terrorism. these don't come up in a vacuum. pew polls shows the overwhelming majority of muslims with sharia law, oppression of women and gays. stuart: we've got sturm ruger up. and vista, ammunition, they're up. they took hits last week and week before. >> analysts believed they peaked because the number of background checks by the fbi has been falling month after month, now we're turning it around. stuart: what do hillary clinton and the president have to say when they see this market action with direct response to statements about gun control? >> i don't believe that they care about gun control. i think this is a distraction, it's the thing that they can talk about so they don't have to talk about the war that we're in. this is because as a result, you notice that nothing really does change, and it actually feeds into their ability to

continue to talk about that. stuart: it's a defense stiive m. >> and donald trump is talking offense. >> defense and misdirection, it's islamic terrorism and attacking gay people. >> some think that it's a gun problem, they're using you and-- >> the free exchange of weapons and-- >> did not know that. we didn't have that on coverage this morning. the side bar issue, related to facebook. facebook activated its first safety check in the u.s. after the orlando shootings. nicole, bring us up-to-date on this, no impact on the stock. nicole: the stock is down 1.8%. the important part of the story is the very first time in the united states that they used this safety check. it allows people to find their loved ones and the person who may be in jeopardy can just click safe, unsafe.

inside the affected area, or outside. it's been used in paris, belgium, pakistan. and they use it for natural disasters, crises, in this case, a terrorism act. the largest u.s. massacre ever and so, in there, that's what they did, they initiated this and quick safe or unsafe and they continue to look for loved ones. stuart: facebook down $2. i want to thank tammy, steve cortez, and keith fitz-gerald, an important day and opening to the market this morning. ladies and gentlemen, thank you, one and all. we're 12 1/2 minutes into the session, all we've got is a 45 point decline as of right now. despite the news back drop. despite it all. down 40 points. that's it. congressman peter king is with us. republican from new york. congressman, thank you very much indeed for being with us today. >> you're welcome.

stuart: the fbi interviewed the shooter at least twice that we know of and he was given, he was given a get out of jail free card essentially, said to be okay. he was then able to go out and purchase the guns that he used in the attack days before the actual attack. did the fbi drop the ball because of intense politically correct pressure upon them? >> overall the fbi does an excellent job. what happened in this case and what happened in boston though is obviously, there were guilty people that the fbi did not spot. now, i don't necessarily blame the fbi for not picking it up in their investigation. i think what the fbi should have done, i don't know if they did it here, but they did in boston, giving the information to the local police. that's what you have local police for. the fbi needs to do their own investigation and turn it over, give it to the local police, and let them monitor.

they're the ones who have the people on the ground and detectives, undercovers and sources and they can continue to monitor this to see if there's any change in the person's behavior. the fbi doesn't have a comair son, they don't have cops on the ground. they can handle very big cases, this is what you need the street cops for and-- >> what -- it seems that we're all acting in a cloud of political correctness and so sensitive to everybody, we don't want to offend anybody. surely, that's got to change, hasn't it? i mean, we've got to do something about this. >> yeah, well, the attitude to a large extent comes from the president who is apologetic and we have to reach out to the muslim community. 99% of muslims are good americans, but the reality, the threat is coming from the muslim community. when you're looking for the ku klux klan, you don't go to the african-american community. if you're looking for muslim

terrorists you have to concentrate on muslim communities. and that involves intense police work and units like the nypd on when the fbi does a sting operation they get criticized for going too far. this requires an all-out effort by the fbi and local police. the local police has to get information and support from the fbi. i know it was not given in the case of the boston marathon bombing. stuart: congressman, my reaction this morning is one of anger. i'm mad as hell. i'm a newly minted american citizen and i have every intention of voting and i'm mad as hell what's going ton in 0 your country. how about you? >> you should be. the president tries to give the impression that the war is going to be over, he's saying what he's not going to do, not going on the ground. troops out. and apologizing we keep hearing

we can't offend anyone. we have to go allout. the arab nations don't stand with us because the president didn't enforce the red line in syria and see how apologetic he is. it's a twilight for civilization. we need to the to be apologizing from the united states. stuart: this is the front page of the daily news out of new york city, thanks, n.r.a. in other words, blame guns. that's it. that's the problem. blame guns. can i have your reaction to this front page daily news? >> yeah, i'm one of those republicans to believes we should have more gun, background checks and et cetera, that's like less than 1% of the terror problem. you could have every-- first of all, it wouldn't have affected this case at all and secondly, you can take, have all the gun legislation you want, all it would do is maybe slightly, slightly slow down isis.

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>> all right, we're learning more about the orlando shooter, there he is. ashley. ashley: there are reports now that omar mateen made two trips to saudi arabia, in 2011 and 2012. what that means, we don't know, but it's a fact apparently. stuart: maybe at some point we

can see 20-odd pages that were contained in the 9/11 report about saudi arabia. ashley: saudi arabia, qatar and-- >> he reportedly had links to a suicide bomber as well. stuart: several acquaintances of the shooter said he made statements about gays and co-workers. and everybody was afraid to appear racist. judge napolitano, you've got interesting background information about the shooter and his employer and the cia. >> his player is a contractor for 100 governments around the world, including the united states government, including the cia. we don't know exactly yet what he did for the employer, but he employer provided security and contractors, a word that can mean a lot of things in the intelligence community, to the

cia and other american intelligence communities. he may have been a janitor there, how could he have been employed by an employer, doing work for the cia, with the background that he had, with the prejudices that he had against gays, with the attitude that he had about radical islam and about isis, how could they have not noticed it. he qualified for the highest level of weaponry that one can qualify for in the state of florida. he lawfully owned the same weapons into the secret service carries when they protect the president, mrs. clinton and donald trump. stuart: you are talking about a breakdown in security checks, background checks to individuals in his position. >> yes, yes, an extraordinary breakdown which is probably being investigated. the fbi has many teams out there, i assure you one of the teams is investigating this. stuart: and big issue of privacy, that government

agencies cannot investigate people and have due cause. >> what poses curiosity in my mind, who, what, where, when, why, when the fbi interrogated him twice. did it give them suspicious, the lowest level to commence investigation? did it give them probable cause, a higher level which permits surveillance? what did it tell about him? >> i understand that some people came forward to say that this man, this shooter was in fact making statements to his co-workers about 9/11 being a wonderful thing, that kind of thing. but then they took that to the police and the fbi. the fbi used that as the reason to investigate this man, but because they could not come up and narrow it down and say, yes, he definitely said that and xyz, he was given a clean hill of belt.

he's got his weapon. >> i'm not critical of the fbi, they know a lot more, but what they learn from and about him when they had these interviews, and did other governmental agencies know about him? did the nsa know about him. >> can i just give-- >> did he show up-- >> i'm sorry to interrupt, please forgive me, the company he worked for g 4 f, did partner with homed secured to provide security to federal building, that's the level of access the company had. >> this raises the question of muslims working in security work in america, just like the issue was raised at the airport and muslims working secure position. ashley: the french, yes. stuart: this is a whole ball of wax, judge. pandora's box. >> this is a tremendous pandora's box. did he show up on any of the nsa surveillance or does the nsa receive so much information

that they didn't know it until too late. >> what is your position on muslims having security clearances-- >> i don't care about a person's background, but care about their patriotism to the united states. stuart: that is what's valid. this terrorism is coming from muslims, not coming from episcopalians. >> 99% of muslims are not terrorists, but the government's job is to find the 1% that are. listen, the government has so much on its plate. i am not critical of the fbi. i'm curious about what the fbi knew, but i'm really, really curious about the company that elizabeth just mentioned liz: it's worked with u.s. nuclear services as well. ashley: does it provide services to entities wholly owned by the cia. stuart: would you as a libertarian have a problem with increasing surveillance of any and all muslims with any security clearance whatsoever,

you do it on the basis of their religion, you have a problem? >> the constitution wouldn't permit that, but the constitution would encourage the government to use whatever evidence it had about people like this. am i back at 11:00? >> maybe. [laughter]. thank you very much, judge, you'll be back at 11. check the marketplace, down a mere 20 points all you've got after the orlando event. and terror in orlando, it's here in our borders. two hours to go. it's more than a network. it's how you stay connected. with centurylink as your trusted technology partner,

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driven to almost 10:00 on the east coast. 7:00 a.m. in california. people joining us from the west coast the west coast but the west coast. let's fill you in on what is happening. 49 people murdered by terrorist

in a gay nightclub in orlando. an attack on america inspired, not necessarily planned by isis. outrage and there's only five months ago before america votes for a new president. this outrage will have an impact on the election. on the left you have the president and hillary clinton talking about gun control, treating this terror incident as a law-enforcement event. on the right, you're donald trump saying we've got to kill them all. the terrorist has already called for a called for every bond and foreign muslims coming to america. he blasted the president and hillary clinton for not naming of radical islam. chocolate is a major terrorist beach a little more than four hours from now. in a moment to spokesperson katrina pearson will join us. the latest on the suspect. his famous omar mateen. he was interviewed by the fbi. ashley: was interviewed by the fbi originally we were told

twice. but now the cia saying the fbi interviewed him three times but could never find or connect the dots to continue the investigation. michael hayden who used to run the cia says lo, there was little surveillance could have done to stop such attacks by changing the nature of a free society. no doubt this guy from people came in contact on a regular basis was violent. he was racist. he was a big egg and according to a former coworker, dangerous. so dangerous that his coworker reported it to the company saying i cannot work with this guy anymore. you need to do something about it. they refused and he ended up quitting, the coworker. now he's been interviewed saying i feel very guilty because i feel like i should have more authorities looking to the sky. stuart: he was islamist he showed it. his father was posting online saying he wanted to be president

of afghanistan. liz: they are afghan immigrants here. here is the father sued geek mateen. he posts videos of himself as if these president of the security forces in the country of afghanistan denounced in pakistan as well. he's not running for president according to local authorities there. he's also the saying his son did carry out the attack during the holy month of ramadan. this has nothing to do with religion even though the father has said god himself will punish those involved in homosexuality. the omar mateen saw two men kissing and that is suicide enough. ashley: this wasn't about religion. he was recently in ama, saw two men kissing in the open. he was absolutely serious about it. that led to the anger and hatred. ashley: we've got the front

cover of "the new york post" this morning giving, barrett is,, isis versus the united states against this. this is your daily news front page which says thanks nra. this cover says it's all about guns. the post says it's all about terror. liz: "the new york post" story says what the daily news and the president and hillary clinton is doing is a consciousness direction away from the source of the evil and the problem here they are saying essentially it's like diagnosing terror without noting which body part is affected by cancer. islamic terrorism has not happened in a vacuum. the beliefs appeal to violence, bigotry, misogyny and. the oppression of the ideology is what is at stake here and what needs to be focused on. ashley: the shooter tried to buy military grade body armor in recent weeks but the store refuse to sell it to them.

stuart: that's an interesting detail. that is the backdrop to the stock market action this monday morning. let's say that action. not much of a response. no direct response to the orlando horror and terror attack. down in her 16 points down in a 16-point some of that essay. the price of gold moving higher. seven dollars higher. you can't say that is a direct response to the outrage. look at gun stocks. striven router up about four, five, 6%. gun stocks generally are way up this morning. smith & wesson 5.5% higher. any talk of gun control, a coke on stocks. linked in, a huge winner of $61 a share, up by 47%. why would that be? microsoft is buying it for $26 billion. microsoft has the cash. it is buying microsoft down to box. two other big web names can be

made bond because of the linkedin news. twitter is up 8%. whom i buy them a shimmer gel, same story. a significant gain. 39 census holidays, looking to see who might buy them. ashley: there's been nothing from the middle east. a statement in saudi arabia condemning the attack on innocent people. by the way, homosexuality is illegal in saudi arabia. they went to saudi arabia in 2011 and 2012, looking at the possibility was there to attend. stuart: homosexuality is punishable in saudi arabia. we should you prefer the 10 year treasury yield almost than 1.62, 1.63%. that is extremely low. that might not be helping the market this morning. back to terror. donald trump talk today about proposal for a temporary ban on muslim immigration. roll the tape.

>> you have thousands of shooters like this at the same mentality out there in this country and we bring thousands and thousands back into this country. talking about people from syria where we have no idea who they are. no idea and a great church in harris. train to donald trump will give a major policy speech. he will make the speech in new hampshire. join us now a spokesperson katrina pearson. i have to ask you if you can tell us anything about the content that mr. trump will give this afternoon. >> i can give you the overall premise, stuart. the policy between hillary clinton has failed miserably. he really wants to draw the contrast of what they trump foreign policy would look like under his administration as opposed to the barack obama

hillary clinton foreign policy had failed, a continuation of the status quo is unacceptable. we cannot continue to say the same thing over and over again expecting a different result. i really highlight the comments that hillary clinton and has made the last few years talking about we have to work with our allies in the middle east. the rhetoric coming out particularly for mr. trump, but somehow it typo of the islamic extremists considering 9/11 occurred prior to donald trump entries in the political field. we were following up on visas. everything have a clinton says will solve the problem is that contributed to the initial attack on this country and it's time we tell the truth to the american people that hillary clinton is no friend to stop in radical islam extremism in the united states. stuart: will use the teleprompter? that sounds at a strange question.

i understand that's off the wall. judge napolitano is lacking on camera here. seriously, if he uses a teleprompter, he knows what he is going to say. he will not be making what some would call wild and outrageous comments. can you tell me? is it a prompter speech? >> it will be a prepared speech. he will not be doing this is a press conference. he does both at press conferences where he speaks off the cuff and he'll also give a prepared speech. stuart: can you tell me anything about his tone? >> in light of recent events, mr. trump did cancel the rally for it today. he wants to focus on the importance of solving this problem and not treated a lot of this in terms. radical islamic extremism is to be rooted out. when it did not add to those coming into this country. we have people in this country who do terrible things, but thing is you don't need to add to the army and that's what can

contribute to wanting to help the immigration so we can find out what's going on. the fbi had this guy under investigation a number of times and still failed to find it. what about the mass surveillance system that is supposed to stop these attacks and has failed, too. his family go to the american people enough for a different solution to the problem. stuart: does mr. trump believe in any form of extra gun control at this point? >> no, not at all. you'll hear this and the democrats and hillary clinton on the left. there's never any solution. the only way to eradicate any type of crime is to get rid of humanity and you can't do that. disarming law-abiding citizens, making them unable to protect themselves is not the answer. stuart: thank you very much indeed, katrina. we appreciate you being with us and will be watching the speech this afternoon. judge napolitano is still with

us. you may have heard them laughing out right. >> before you asked me, i would like to follow to your message and katrina. no one in the club had a gun. the club was a no go zone. the only person that had a gun was the killer. could you imagine if a half-dozen people, just a half-dozen people had been armed. he had to reload his weapon and so many times. it's impossible to shoot the weapon while reloading it. he could easily have been disabled, disarmed or taken out completely during the reloading process if anybody had been armed. this is a very pro-gun state. the owners of the club, the owner of the private property prohibited the guns, not the government. stuart: do you think america is ready for not the availability, but the presence of guns in a variety of situations like, for example, in a nightclub where

people are drinking? i'm not so sure i really want firearms around when people are loaded follows -- >> that the events couldn't possibly have been worse than they were. all it would've taken is one person batty. stuart: is america ready for guns all over the place? >> as courageous as the police were coming to use every means available to them. they weren't able to stop this until after 49 have been slaughtered. stuart: i want to get back to the fbi. we were in the middle of an argument, a discussion about privacy. you don't like the government did you don't like the government making inquiries. >> i'll tell you something that would make you happy. he's dead. he is no privacy rights now that he's dead. it's very easy for the fbi to

get assurance that erd has said they are going through. we may have this issue of the passcode, that they are going through -- i have my iphone as i say it. they are going through all his electronic devices. the first goal is to find if there's confederates out there. stuart: i want to know are you or your not in favor of investigating every muslim in a security position in america? that's what i want. i'm not prepared to have -- if we don't do this and somebody slips through the cracks because of our intense desire not to investigate muslims and somebody gets in and kills a plane load of people are a club load of people, who takes responsibility? >> we should investigate everybody in a security position like that. there are going to be some unwanted answers here. his employer and employees 600,000 people, almost all of

whom are armed to what did they do before they gave this guy is gone? >> that's a very good question. did they go far enough? >> apparently not. stuart: thank you for reviewing the argument. >> this is the most of the last all of television. last night train to serious stuff. jeff flock is outside the nightclub where this quarter was the fact day. just, you got new details on the shooter. go. >> has come up from intelligence officials to fox news, apparently the u.s. attorney earlier today said they've been making progress with a lack traumatic evidence. apparently someone visited saudi arabia in march of 2011 and a year later in march of 2012. this is a sad comment intelligence department officials to fox news they were

not able to confirm how i've learned that his itinerary was, who he saw, what he saw and were even specific way. to saudi arabia on two occasions in 2011 and 2012. those are both before he had been investigated by the fbi because coworkers had said he said suspicious things about his connection to terrorism. goes back to 2011. stuart: thank you indeed. joining us now is america together foundation president is frequent and on this program. does islam have a problem with homosexuality? "varney & company" stuart, thanks for asking that question. islam does not pass. christianity does not pass. they may god the villain of his own creation. it is wrong for them to propagate this kind of christians and muslims. god is not his own creation.

they need the education. there are a few muslims. there are few christians who believe the -- stuart: i have to point out that i don't know of any christians who are killing gay and nightclubs around the place else. >> not now. but they have years ago. stuart: there is no moral equivalency here. islam has a severe problem with homosexuality. it is punishable by death in saudi arabia where this young man with twice in 2011 and 2012. you've got to come out with this. you've got to look within islam and they have we got a problem with homosexuality? if we do, we've got to change. are you going to say that? >> absolutely. islam does not have a problem with homosexuality. the man who claimed to be guardians of islam. we have to educate them and

dismantled to make them know that we have to accept the algae bt community as our friends, neighbors and fellow americans. the nonsense they are different is wrong and we have to educate. i have supported the gay community since 1984. stuart: i believe there is a mom and orlando who a couple ago said that you should kill gays out of compassion for them. what are you going to do about that and others succumbed to this country and preach that kind of thing in the future? >> i'm going to prepare a video to get them for islam. i decided to limit his his own creation, the air making it out. when each of educate them about islam. they claim to have degrees in islam, but they don't know islam. islam is about passion, mercy

and not creating villains out of each other. it is about building cohesive societies. these imams don't understand muslims. they need to learn and are willing to educate them. they need to blurt islam is a beautiful face and they are making a mess out of bed and many to be held accountable for teaching around preaching. stuart: thank you for joining us. get out there and say what you got to say publicly. joining us on the phone from outside the nightclub in orlando, florida is fox news brien kill need. the predominant emotion that we are picking up on this program is one of anger. what is it like down there? "varney & company" absolutely. people want to find out the facts first. somebody in the club identified at this moment and readers of very informative press conferences morning about 7:30 a.m., which we found out this is how desperate this was. they had used a hellcat, and

assault vehicle to bust the robot after they blew up the wall and it would never go through. this is like a military operation. you expect this to take place in kandahar. not orlando. stuart: you interview donald trump this morning on fox and friends come on fox news literally less than three hours ago. they got the main points. let me tell you. reporter: he wants to double down even though this guy is an american citizen. he believes the president is sending the absolute wrong message because we are not aiming isis. we are talking about guns. he has doubled, tripled down. i asked these are major terror speech today around noon but hillary clinton and corruption. and that ties at the clinton foundation. he has switched. i asked him specifically who is the person consulting you. he spent 30 years in business, 40 years in business.

you can't possibly be a terror expert. he's going to be specific and it will be interesting because he has been somebody stepping out front. hillary clinton came on this morning and i'm looking at her comment on "good morning america" talking about guns and assault weapons. you think that's a problem? stuart: it is islamic terror. this is war. that will be my personal opinion. i've got to run coming thank you for joining us as always. brien kilmeade right there in orlando. president obama has called the shooting and not of terror and an active hate. he has not said a word radical islam. cia director ambassador james morrissey is with us now. is that a shortcoming on the part of our president, he will not name it. have you see it? >> it's a big shortcoming. you can't write successfully over something you won't

accurately describe. it would be as if we tried to fight world war ii without pain nazi. it is just ridiculous and is gone back the point of being ridiculous that the president will not accurately describe those who believe they are were with us, even though we appear to be rather relaxed and they sometimes the big only at war with them. he will not be able to rally the country. he will not be able to put the resources of the government, will come of the security agencies together with the civilian people supporting the government and to figure out who is the next bomber. none of that or automatic weapons user. he is not going to be able to do that as long as the process and not naming the threat, not naming the problem.

stuart: mr. ambassador, the fbi spoke to mateen it three times. we understood that three worked for a security country which did business with the cia. how did he slip through all of this? is there a man our problem here? there's so many suspects that we can't get a hold of them all? >> there is a large foreign comp name that hires a lot of the people at subcontract them who work in airport security and working security at this sort of us here. some of them are going to be terrorists if we hire large numbers of people, particularly from the middle east, where documentation is not put together in a sound way, where you can buy a very good-looking american passport for $100, it said. and that is the reality of what they are trying to deal with. it is not euros job to try to

comment in a a way, stop crying. they are an investigative agency. a crime has been committed. if they can stop a crime from occurring, yes they will, but they are not principally organized to book tour is the future of stopping someone from doing something even before he's committed a crime or taken action. stuart: it seems that we are being constantly held back by political correctness, that we are so sensitive to everybody, especially muslims that we can go gung ho and say knock it off. to be blunt, we are held at ireland political correctnecorrectne ss. you agree with that? >> absolutely. stuart: what we do about it? >> we've got to realize we are at war and go into action the way we did in world war ii. we've got to get the best of america i'm dealing with something like the dark web and

figure out how to get out in front the way some of these consulting companies do and advising about business and purchases of goods and so forth, advertising. we have got to get at least that good in terms of dealing with those who may be on the verge of committing crimes, crimes of the sort that we saw in her window. we have got to pull america's together in a public-private partnership to take on the islam if, the muslim part of islam's terrorist movement. that is not all muslims of. but it is done. stuart: james, i know you don't want to be political, but i have to ask. who is going to do that? who is going to really stop this? trump or hillary?

>> criminals screw jacks and joe lieberman democrat, so i may not be the best person to ask about this. stuart: who is going to do this for us? >> whichever one we end up electing has to do it or we will have an absolute disaster as a nation. as long as we focus on thinking this is just about whether people can have guns are not or islam is universally a religion of peace, we will lose. we have to accurately describe the problem. we have to take it on and the president has to pull all this together. if you won't be this president and i don't think it will be, it's got to be the next one. stuart: former cia or, thank you for joining us. by the way, the market is almost dead flat. any negative friendlier lando attack and the impact on the british leaving europe, that is just about gone from the market at this moment and we are down eight points. that is it.

who would've thought on a monday after this dreadful terror attack, who would've thought this market. you've got mr. marco rubio. ashley: talking to a conservative radio host, asked about the atlanta shooting and he said it has given me pause to think about what my next move is. in other words, he may consider running for the senate. he announced he wasn't going to run again, but he says that the blue face and the foreign-policy challenges given the things both candidates have outlined. i'm going to go away with my family and think it through, the raised the possibility to get take another term. stuart: we may, repeat, he's thinking about it. now we've got breaking news. this is the supreme court about puerto rico. liz: puerto rico wanted to say we need to restructure the debt of $20 billion they are. federal law in the united states

as states can allow towns to file for bankruptcy. supreme court says to puerto rico you cannot do that under federal bankruptcy law. puerto rico may need a bailout from congress. that's where they stand. stuart: nowadays. and nowadays. and in a trivia window police department. a kevlar helmet worn by a police officer during a shootout with the terrorists. the officer was hit in the head. a bullet pierced the helmet. this helmet saved his life. that is kevlar. the term loan will no longer an accurate description of terrorists today in america. more on that in a moment. >> intelligence is the crucial denominator here. we have people living in our communities who are radicalizing themselves are not motivated or is cases directed by isis. when that behavior starts to change, people must notice that they must report on it.

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stuart: let's bring you today in the latest from orlando. ashley: 48. the 49 victims have been identified. the suit the person of the government itself and authorities say he's not that big a market to them. 49 -- 48 of which are identified as a big effort is what and who was the shooter. who did he have contact with, omar mateen. they are going through his electronics now. they've taken computers, laptops. very important to see if there's any links if anyone in this country or overseas. we know he went to saudi arabia twice in 2011 and 2012. saudi arabia's spokesperson says he believes they went to visit for what is called the next

level down from the harsh. you can go any time. it is required of all able-bodied males to do that once in their lifetime. the big question is where the city visited velocity top two when he was there. >> the predominant feeling has been anger. >> anger, outrage. it's not a tragedy. it's an out race. it's despicable and wrong. hillary clinton addressed the orlando terror attack on the today show this morning had watched this. >> we need to get these weapons of war is not the streets. it expired and we need to reinstate it in san bernardino to aurora, colorado to sandy hook and now to orlando. we have seen the devastation that these military style weapons cause.

stuart: that is what the left is saying it is a gun issue. she said other things as well. tread the shootings doubled trumpet self obsessed with name-calling. she says not what we said. we have two feet jihadist and she says, but not going to demonize the demagogue and call out an entire religion because that falls in to isis fans did the gun lobby she goes on to say scares the heck out of elected officials and we need to make this a voting issue. gun control. stuart: she criticized trumpet this suggestion for a brand on muslims than that falls into crisis here. all right. let see what else we've got here. i want to bring in former cia operations officer mike aker. earlier on this program today we had a retired four-star general jack keating who was on the show. as that is very military answer to this? yes there is.

we have the military power to go over there come and knock them out and kill them big time. do you agree with that? should we do that? >> sure. we need to do that. we've been making some headway over there and syria and iraq. that has been happening. not as fast as some of us would like. the sad reality is the more sick as we have on the ground covers. and iraq in terms of taking back territory, reducing revenue strands of taking out leadership, the more likely we will see a similar event such as a shooting in berlin. stuart: why would that be? success over there against isis? why would that lead to more events? >> we know from dealing with ale minded alevin. once you take away the sword of comfort of some territory, dan taymor.

they adapt. they adjust. the party been seeing now. the attacks in paris, the attacks in brussels, orlando, san bernardino. these are the things that happen because they get more aggressive in encouraging all arisen in 10 people and encourage them more aggressively to take action wherever they happen to be. we definitely take them out of the ground. there's no question about that. they've been moving resources to good and elsewhere. we have to understand. we have to be pragmatic. the more we do that, we have to prepare ourselves for the likelihood that they will be more aggressive in trying to attack us in the west. stuart: i don't think the shooter shooter in our vendor with a lone wolf. it seems to be connections to networks of some sort which he deeply in inspired it. they been in saudi arabia twice. i object to the expression loan

wolf because i don't think it is accurate. >> well, it's a that this mindset that it is some individual who one day just snapped and decided he's going to do this. it's a term that's been around for decades and decades. i don't disagree with you. the terminology create the improper perception of what the problem is. it is a strong likelihood this person wasn't directed by some supporters, didn't receive resources. it is more like it that he was injured but we inspired. but it is still the same problem. whether we talk about isis, al qaeda and the records to encourage these attacks. the problem is islamic extremism as we now, as the white house is reluctant to talk about because they're afraid of paging religion with a broad rush. we are not talking about the entire religion. it's a very important segment that they believe they are following the true paths. all these people care that come

out and say this has nothing to do with our religion. you go to syria and iraq and talks to isis and they believe they are following the true religion. we have to do with that problem. stuart: mike baker, thanks for joining us. president obama called the shooter in an act of terror in the neck to pay. he never used the word radical islam. watch this. >> -- apparently armed with a handgun and powerful assault rifle. this massacre is therefore a further reminder of how easy it is for someone to get their hands on a weapon that lets them shoot people in a school or a house of worship or a movie theater or in a nightclub. and we have to decide if that kind of country we want to be. stuart: sirius xm patriot host, david webb. it seems to me that the president and hillary clinton are trying to make this an issue

of law enforcement. you bring in the police force and the lawyers. i don't think you agree with that. >> no, as a matter of fact, you talk about outrage and anger. this is an evil act. i am going to simplify this year for the president and hillary clinton to make this about the gun, not the person using it. the s.w.a.t team used the gun to stop this killer. the fact is the gun is an instrument to matter what you want to call it. they are disingenuous. they are willfully or and or both buy into this and continue their march against the second amendment and against the rights of people to protect themselves. we shouldn't get lost in their argument. we've got to start getting lost in the broad argument. radical islam. the prior conversation. they ascribe to an ideology. the general is also right.

they will commit more acts. they are already here if they ascribe to the ideology whether they are born here or not. stuart: which means surveillance inside the united states. at the moment we cannot do. >> we can do it. we choose not to do it. stuart: we abandon it. >> we went after the mob by going into the restaurant in little italy in brooklyn in other areas. these radicals are coming out of mosques. we have a imam at riker's island two was guilty of breaching outright depression. over the years statements on video, you can google do things that look at. look at our response. our response is what this president and hillary clinton want. this is why they are dangerous for the country. they want to hide their heads in the sand. stuart: our legal system will not allow what you want.

there are muslim preachers. >> another problem occurs in certain areas originates potentially, surveillance is legal. proclaiming is a tool to look for a certain type of person or persons that may commit these acts. this is called investigation. the ball was struck here. the ball was dropped because politically they are afraid to identify a muslim man making statements, nidal hasan with the army. they ignored the obvious threat. this was bull, maybe not preventable. this man was obvious. stuart: he was reported to the authorities. >> he was interviewed at all of these are the investigative process. but where does the job? where does it end? stuart: it drops because in this case, i would imagine that the employer was very worried about

taking action against someone who had use hate speech because they are muslim. we are so sensitive about this. stuart: here we have an employer, the largest government are essentially private armies that work for different services, cia and otherwise. someone that is licensed, that is obviously not able to only get a gun legally and use the process, but commit the acts. as a person committing the act, not the weapon or instrument. god, machete, ibd, whatever. these are the instruments used. stuart: i think you agree with all of us. >> it's not just anger. but we've got to stop getting to the wrong argument. as many times as obama -- as many times as they can lie about the issue rather than a family

issue. we will be listening to your radio show. banks. check the price of the stock market. where are we? we've are down 40, 50 points. now we are absurd team for the price of oil on the down side. not much. two cents lower at 49. it has come back. the ten-year treasury yields, which you look at that? 1.63%. a lot of us never thought we would be that day coming. that is historically low. linkedin, huge winter. microsoft is by that company for $26.2 billion in microsoft as the money. current stocks from the green arrows big-time green arrows big time. sturmer rukh of a percent. smith & wesson is 7%. in ammunition company is up 2%. liz: these stocks have been on

the move after hillary clinton both called for measures on sunday after the biggest mass shooting in the united states. rtc, democrat of pennsylvania calling for a new gun control bill make you that no fire arms. the people who are convicted of a misdemeanor hate crime. they would not be allowed to go. at the top of the coming hour, fox news analyst brit hume. question, does the terror attack helped donald trump? lieutenant colonel ralph peters says amanda was president obama's american tragedy. he will tell us why. card from capital one. with it, i earn unlimited 2% cash back on all of my purchasing. and that unlimited 2% cash back from spark means thousands of dollars each year going back into my business...

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>> remember, "varney & company" starts at 9 a.m. eastern and here is what you missed last hour. >> his employer is a contractor for 100 governments around the world, including the united states government, including the cia. now, we don't know exactly yet what he did for the employer, but the employer provided security and contractors, a word that can mean a lot of things in the intelligence community, to the cia and other american intelligence communities. listen, he may have been a janitor there, but how could he have been employed by an employer doing work for the cia with the background that he

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>> now this, we have breaking news on the american sniper, jesse ventura defamation case. back up just a second here, jesse eventuala won money from the american sniper's widow. now what. ashley: he won 1.8 million. there was a passage in the book that claimed that he got into a fight with the american sniper, chris kyle. and nasty things about navy seals. and jesse ventura said it never happened. a court vacated that award liz: so she doesn't need to pay it. stuart: there are a couple of people cheering on that. i thought i'd tell you that, background there, all right. shall we move on? all smiles on that one. okay, now, donald trump yesterday blasted president obama for his refusal to blame the massacre on radical islam. instead, the president chose

phrases like an act of terror, an act of hate. look who is here. fox news strategic analyst ralph peters. and do you think-- i think you've called this president obama's american tragedy, president obama's american tragedy explain, please. >> it is his tragedy because his neglect, his failure to do the essential things that had to be done led us directly to this tragic massacre of americans in orlando. and obama is -- i'm fascinated by him because he's a rare human being who doesn't seem to learn anything ever. his beliefs formed when he was a teenager, hard left belief seem iron clad and dogmatic. i don't know about you when i was 18 my hair was longer and politics left as they are now, but we grow in life. and a president who after

almost eight years in hour still can't say the words, islamic terror or radical islam and why it matters, here is why it matters. how can you declare war on an enemy you can't name. we need to have war against radical groups. his unable to face the enemy we have before us. in orlando, there are things they cannot do that in war time they can do. going after radical mosque, we know where they are, a guest of yours said that. we need criminal laws, logging onto or contributing to radical websites. >> we've got news from john kerry. u.s. secretary of state john kerry saying the worst thing we can do is point fingers at one religion or another.

>> answers that, ralph, secretary of state john kerry said the worst thing we can do is point fingers at one religion or another. >> i guess we should be worried about blood thursdayty unitarians or rampaging catholics, or jews going into kindergarten and yelling this is for-- >> not all muslims are terrorists, but virtually all terrorists are muslims today. there is a tremendous crisis, a convulsive terrorists among islam. in the meantime, we must defend ourselves and that means taking on radical jihadi groups and when you have a president who wasn't name them, you have the wrong man in the wrong place at the wrong time. stuart: ralph peters telling it how he sees it. thank you for joining us, ralph. appreciate you being here. >> thank you. stuart: coming up in the 11:00 hour, one of donald trump's policy advisors is going to join us, the issue, of course,

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they're the ones who have the people on the ground, they have the detectives, the undercovers, the sources and they can continue to monitor this, to see if there's change in the person's behavior. the fbi doesn't have to compare, they don't have cops on the ground. they can handle very big cases, but this is what you need the street cops for and-- >> what do -- it seems that we're all acting in a cloud of political correctness and so sensitive to everybody, don't want to offend anybody. surely that's got to change, hasn't it? we've got to do something about this. >> well, yeah, it does have to change and that attitude comes from the top, comes from the president, who is so apologetic and constantly talking how we have to reach out to the muslim community. listen, i say 99% of all muslims are good americans, but the reality is the threat coming from the muslim community. stuart: thank you, again, sir. we appreciate you being with us. thank you. coming up in the 11 a.m. area,

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. stuart: precisely 11:00 eastern time, and we have an update. news from orlando. hillary clinton just tweeting saying hate isn't the answer. but what else did she say? >> can't declare war on a entire religion also says she is for restrictions on assault weapons. donald trump saying we have to look at the ideology and community that can lead to these. stuart: what about the so gun control are the issues and don't go after muslims exclusively. now, secretary of state john kerry has also been talking -- ashley: he has. speaking the orlando mass killing says the worst thing we can do says the secretary of state is point fingers at one religion or another. . stuart: all right. both of them saying that within

minutes of each other. liz: correct. yeah,. stuart: somewhat similar statements on both sides there. liz: yeah. stuart: joining me now ferris, donald trump's foreign adviser. this afternoon trump will give a major speech on terror. have you any broad outlines as to what he may say? >> we don't have the actual substance or what we have, we cannot of course reveal. but what we know he will project are several things. number one, just mentioned it. the ideology. this is an issue about identifying the ideology and there's a big divide. a big value between the obama clinton camp and mr. trump. vision of why these things are happening, what are we missing? we need to designate and defy the ideology. number two, there needs to be a strategic serious fight against isis. the machine that is in syria and in iraq to defeat it so that it's not inspiring

individuals. stuart: is that a physical fight? a military fight? us carrying it militarily to them. >> number one on the ideological level, no. but, yes, the fight in syria and iraq will have to be a combined fight. we have to put some assets and our allies on the ground urging us will have to put some assets. but we need leadership. without leadership, not going to get to the end of isis at all. stuart: is he going to stand in direct contrast to hillary clinton and president obama? will he name -- not name names, but will he clearly identify it as islamic terror and use those words? >> he has already since last year. and foreign policy speech, he couldn't have been more clear than identifying it in what he calls islamic radical terrorism or movement, you name it. but then he's going to do something else.

basically he's going to start naming those movements or start talking about this ideology. so it's going to be really night and day between his position and the clinton position. stuart: katrina pearson, his spokesperson was on the program about an hour ago. she said it would be a teleprompter speech. i realize that that's a really strange question, but it goes to the heart of how mr. trump will present himself. she said, yes, he will be on prompter. therefore i'm suggesting he will be a little reigned in. not shooting from the hip and not using some of the language which has been criticized before. what say you? >> but he's making that decision. nobody is reigning it on him. he chooses the experts, he chooses the talking points. the last resort in designing those speeches although many are helping there's no doubt about it any candidate would do that. it is him, his ideas at the end of the day.

so the fact that this is a read speech means this is a very serious message sent to the other side and the international community. stuart: he has clearly taken the initiative here. first out of the gate so to speak with a statement right after the outrage was revealed. and he's continued it all through this day. he was on fox earlier. i think he has ceased the initiative here. >> he is seizing the initiative and something else we need to lack at. he is acting strategically presidential. it takes some time to figure out what the talking parts are, also waits on the input for all the orlando massacre. this is not a simple thing. this is the second 9/11, and he is very responsible and wants to make sure that the american public gets from him -- what this public is not getting from the obama, clinton camp. stuart: are there any surprises you expect? >> i don't think that there are surprises, but the

opponents will be surprised by e way he is going to be acting and saying. now they're going to be dealing dealing with something else. trump who is strategic and who has a connection of the feelings with the majority of the american public. that's going to be a surprise to their talking points, which in america and around world are trying to paint him as very light,responsible, and the public realize thats. stuart: okay. thank you very much for being with us. >> thank you for having me. stuart: look who's here. sandra smith, cohost of outnumbered. a very successful program with us this morning also ashley webster and elizabeth macdonald. to you first. there it is, ladies and gentlemen, look at this. this is the front cover of the daily news. thanks, nra. in other words, it's all about gun control. they're the ones to blame here. >> it's really disgusting.

and, in fact, i just made a point to go through that article for a third time on my phone so that i could use the electronic feature of searching for the word terror or isis. not one mention of it in that article. it is all about the gun doing the killing of these 49 victims down in florida. not about the person. stuart: listen to this. donald trump just coming in with a very late tweet. and i'm quoting here. i have been hitting obama and crooked hillary hard on not using the term radical islamic terror. hillary just broke said she would now use. liz: yeah, what happens is hillary clinton said, you know, not what name we use to call him, i've clearly said, though, whether you call it radical jihadism or radical islamism, i'm happy to say either. stuart: so it sounds like mr. trump pushed hillary clinton into that position where she had to say what had to be said. >> okay. well, will the

president now follow suit? we still have not heard the president those words and his immediate reaction to this yesterday in the afternoon, we all listen to the statement, these words were not used. stuart: thus far the argument is from the left, that's from hillary clinton and president obama. it's a gun control issue, it's a hate issue. donald trump is saying it is a terror issue. it is aislamic terror. and requires -- not just a military, but also a very forceful approach to combat. >> stuart, early on in this attack, the attacker pledged his allegiance to isis in the early goings of this massacre. how can you avoid that? how can hillary clinton continue on? so donald trump is going to be making a speech later today, hillary clinton is going to be speaking in the noon hour. it's going to be very interesting in the wake of this attack how their messages are going to evolve. liz: at least ten countries in the world where gay people can

be executed for being born the way they are. >> saudi arabia is one of them. ashley: yes. liz: people who choose t to pick up a gun and slaughter, they make that choice. stuart: hillary clinton where it changes just a little as she understands the feelings within america and donald trump's getting right out front and leading the debate. i think she's beginning to catch. >> which, by the way, the new york post really -- sorry not the new york post, huffington post really took a portion of donald trump's tweets to make a post saying he was giving himself congratulations on being right on the radical islam terrorism. that tweet did, by the way, saying i don't want can graduates, i want toughness. stuart: that's what huffington post quoted. obstacle only a small fraction of the trump statement. >> uh-huh. right. stuart: let's bring in brit

hugh, fox senior analyst. welcome to the program. terror front and center in this election. it may seem like a crash question but i'll ask it anyway. does this help donald trump? >> in the near term, i think it does, stuart, because he has been arguing for a much more muscular approach as you all have been talking about to deal with isis. he believes isis should be crushed, utterly defeated. the implication of course is that we would apply whatever military force necessary. something president obama by extension hillary clinton had been reluctant to do and remains reluctant to do that. and as you suggest, stuart, it will be interesting to see if hillary clinton begins to evolve away from that position more in the direction of the tougher approach. stuart: but at the moment donald trump leads, he's taken the initiative, outfront on the story. you agree with that? >> and not just because of what he said. it's also mostly because of what's happened. it is pretty hard to argue on this day that the, you know,

obama clinton poach to dealing with isis has succeeded when isis-inspired gunman has committed this hideous massacre, worst terror enact united states since 9/11. that is i markup failure not success. stuart: and also extraordinary that the president refuses to use the words islamic terror. he will not use those words even though all the evidence points towards this shooter in orlando being inspired by isis directly. >> he continues to believe that isis is not islamic. he has a view of the -- islam as a religion principally as peace and so forth. but as was pointed out on your show, there are ten regions in the world where homosexuals are killed this in the eyes o of sharia law those so this is

not something that islam frowning upon, quite the contrary. so in this particular case, it seems absurd for the president to deal with the fact that islam and its tenants are at the core of this. stuart: you said before that the economy would decide this election. do you think that this terror attack changes that? >> well, it certainly changes the focus of the election for the moment. now, we tend to have short memories in this country and so on. but it certainly for now, every other issue is put aside. this is the issue of the day and will continue for some time. how long? it's hard to say. stuart: it seems like donald trump in his speech this afternoon will be reigned in. of course a very important topic terror. but we know -- we're told he is going to use a teleprompter. and it will be scripted. in other words, no shooting from the hip. i think -- it sounds to me he's trying very hard to look presidential, in control, and bring the republican party with him.

>> well, i think he has -- he's certainly been attempting to do that and what has taken him off course at times are these extemporaneous comments that he makes about the judge that blocked his path to any other comments for about a week while people talked nothing other than than that. and that reverberates to this day and his set back to the party to recruit behind him. stuart: thank you very much indeed, sir. we appreciate you being here. >> thank you, stuart,. stuart: i'm going to bring up the markets. there's not a great deal of action in stocks and bonds. somewhat in bonds but not stocks today. this as the terror attack in orlando. there was some feeling that the terror attack in florida would influence the british decision on whether or not they leave europe. some feeling that maybe they would be more likely to leave.

that was a negative for european stock markets and negative for american markets. that seems to have gone away because we're now up two points on the dow industrials. the big point is this one. microsoft will pay $2.2 billion for this. linked in. what do you think of this? >> well, it's a huge deal. and good news when you get a deal of this size announced for the market. you know what else is up? twitter. because there's speculation as we do see this slump in the technology sector that there's going to be more consolidation. so people are looking where else they should be buying now. twitter is up as a result of that. but overall the reaction i've seen from analysts in this deal, thumbs. ccs inside analyst said linked in was a valuable asset that would be deeply integrated with number of microsoft products. stuart: it's a good fit. and they could afford it. >> it makes microsoft a little cooler too. there's a cool factor. stuart: it's really great to

be the guy who owns some cool stuff like microsoft. >> ten years stuart varney had to be, like, microsoft, come on, do something. stuart: seven years actually. wait a second. wait a second. apple has over $230 billion in cash. ashley: yes. liz: right. stuart: they can buy anything they want. ashley: sitting overseas. stuart: most of it sitting overseas. liz: yes 90%. stuart: sandra smith, would you speculate? >> i was waiting for the question, stuart. but, listen, this has been a story for a long time these technology firms sitting on loads of cash, your microsoft one of them. so aren't you happy to see them finally putting some of that cash to work? . stuart: delighted, sandra. i am actually. now, wait a second. the one group of stocks which is acting directly in relation are the gun stocks. look at them go. liz: look at that. up double digits. gun stocks have been hitting record highs this year under president barack obama.

we also have senator bob casey out of democrat pennsylvania. so he wants -- he's backing a new gun control law. basically say no firearms should be sold to people convicted of misdemeanor hate crimes. so it's -- stuart: up goes the gone stucks. liz: hate crime. not a terror attack. stuart: any time you have a politician saying we have control going a bit more. up go gun stocks. look at that. 7.5%. >> by the way, these stocks are up, like, 1,000 and 2,000% under president obama. stuart: that is correct. who would have thought. that would have been a smart investment, wouldn't it? didn't see that one. all right. let's get back to the terror attack in orlando. joining us now is ambassador john bolton, american enterprise institute scholar. the shooter visited saudi arabia twice. what's the significance of that? >> well, i think that's a potential piece of evidence that he was radicalized there. i think the pattern emerges,

we'll see further that have this whole concept of loan wolf terrorism or self radicalizing like it's spontaneous combustion just doesn't work. there are levels of communication, direction, and control, but isis and other terror groups have taken advantage of internet communication to recruit and organize people in ways that make old time spy networks look kind of stodgy by comparison. so this idea that this is one incident that's peculiar on its own, this is another strange incident yet that's another strange incident, this is all related, and all due to the ideology of -- stuart: we are at war with radical islam. they're at war with us, they're at war with europe, they're at war with everybody and war it is. >> yes. i think the key leaders in the middle east, the arab monarchs understand this. king of jordan have described this concept as a civil war

within islam and the muslim king of the muslim country and the city of the holy leaders, think if ends it that way, isn't it okay for us to understand that way? . stuart: fair point. earlier on this program journal jack keane a retired four star journal came flat out and said there is an option here. it is to go after them, isis, in their strong hold and knock them out. we can do it, and we should do it. you're a diplomat. what do you say? >> i think jack is exactly right. and, in fact, what obama himself said is his goal is to degrade and ultimately destroy isis. the problem is the word ultimately. it is not cost free to slow roll this campaign against isis because as it continues to exist, the possibility to radicalize others, to set them in motion, to lay the ground work for future terrorist attacks continues so that there is a human cost the only one united states in europe we

see from the attacks in orlando, san bernardino, paris, brussels, on and on and on that isis is laying the ground work while it continues to exist. so if you remove the word and ultimately say immediately, then we would be on track. stuart: when are we going to say enough already? i mean how many attacks have devastated western cities, western societies? >> my theory is in america certainly that the public is way ahead of its leaders in washington. stuart: yes. >> they understand the principle function of government as adam smith said as to protect us from violence from external sources. and the politicians in this election season, i'm sorry to turn to politics on a tragic day but that's the reality. the politics who understand that will prevail in november stuart: thank you. sir, doug is here. now, doug is the former adviser to president bill clinton. doug, come on in, please, do you expect hillary clinton to migrate a little bit towards

the position of donald trump? at any m migration at all? or is she going to stick with all gun control it's hate and it's wrong. >> well, i don't think she said it's all gun control, it's hate, and it's wrong. she made it clear that we have to defeat isis, that it was an act of terror and while i might personally believe that she could have been stronger and more immediate as john bolton suggested, i thought her statement was appropriate under the circumstances. stuart: but, however, i think mr. ambassador bolton is correct in saying that the american public is out front of the politicians in this, and you say? >> i think you're right and there's also something else. that the politicians to notics e together and work together because we're all americans. and isis is not going to target us based on ideology or

party affiliation. and really we are weaker when we fight about it than when we work together. stuart: but we don't have the right answers, do we? i mean if we're all trying to come together -- >> i didn't say that. i said kill them. stuart: i'm not putting words into your mouth. if we all want to come together and be nice as americans, that, doug, is not working. the prevailing emotion in america today is anger. >> right. stuart: anger at what are has happening consistently in western society and they don't want just some vague idea, well, we've got to combat isis. they want a plan. what are you going to do? that's what they want. >> i fully accept that. stuart: and hillary's not there. >> well, if you will let me address your question. stuart: well,. >> i'll give you a thought. first i think hillary is more hawkish than president obama. i think her statement was a good first step in a challenge that is going to require

thought and care and time to succeed. yes, we need to move quickly. but this is not a rhetorical war. it's going to be a war on the ground as general keene himself suggested. stuart: so you think hillary will come to that position? >> i think she will, yes. stuart: why didn't she say it? >> i can't speak to what she said, but this is less about rhetoric than action. stuart: i just wish she would say something. her primary statement is gun control control. we've got to do something about the loopholes. that's basically what she said. >> you know, she mentioned gun control by having statements, stuart. she talked about terror and how it was absolutely unacceptable. stuart: and islamic terror. >> again, you're playing rhetorical games with the questions. i say it's about action to solve a problem.

i think it's to minimize the threat and weaken ourselves. stuart: believe me, i am not playing games, and i am not playing politics. i'm looking athe what's going on, and i am saying that there's a problem here. because our leadership is not addressing what's going on. >> and i'm saying we do better addressing that problem, which i see as you do by working on specific plans together as a united states of america rather than two political parties engaging in rhetorical games without a plan. stuart: well, i do look forward to what donald trump has to say this afternoon. >> i think we all do. stuart: see you soon. >> yeah. stuart: the terrorists who killed 49 in orlando, the fbi questioned him multiple times. numerous red flags. here's adequate. how much freedom are you willing to sacrifice for security? >> everybody in this building when you see somebody we all

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of the risks of being so lax about firearm. john bolton, he just said that. >> well, he acts as if we have the power in our access-to-control the powerful firearms. do you think people are going to be scrupulous about gun control laws? and even if we were successful in this country, the world is a wash with ak-47s. that's the weapon of choice around the world. manufactured in russia. they can be smuggled across our border just as easily as illegal immigrants. stuart: now, he is shifting the argument back towards gun control. >> how long is he going to do that? because he can't ignore facts and we know right now he's meeting with the security team. fbi director james comey is with him right now. he is being briefed on everything they know up to this moment. surely that's not -- he won't be able to fall back on this rhetoric and surely he's going to have to start to face the facts in all of this and that this man pledged his

allegiance to isis as he initiated the attack in that nightclub. ashley: yeah, he says the killer was influenced by extremists. that's from gloam influenced by extremists. liz: even though the father saying god will punish homosectionals basically born the way they are and the twitter sphere is lighting up, stuart, because there's numerous muslim who are saying we applaud what happened in orlando. and that is a disgrace. >> clearly there's goodbye a question, stuart, of whether or not this man was inspired by isis or if he was directed by isis. liz: people are very angry about -- stuart: the president cannot forever walk away from the radical islamic connection here. >> but he is and there's a reason for it that ties in the gun control argument and that is the president think so this is not ideologically motivated. he thinks it can be solved through the law enforcement paradigm. that's a series of isolated

attacks and therefore gun control is central to it. and this does affect the philosophical divide between the parties whether it's war or. stuart: what did she hold on, everybody, listen to this. the president has just said. i think he's just said there's no clear evidence that the attack was directed by extremists. directed. ashley: said he was influenced by extremists but no clear evidence as directed. stuart: as shake peer would say, that's walking on a hair. >> it does not matter. he was part of this larger effort, this larger ideological threat and that's what we have to go after. you keep splicing this into smaller and smaller pieces, it guarantees we will never -- stuart: and the president is endlessly trying to get away from the radical islamic connection. liz: i tell you. the gay community has supported president obama. and i'm already seeing a negative reaction toward

president obama on this very subject. because they understand that it's islamic terrorism that is at the root of this evil act in orlando. stuart: all right. i've got this just coming in. this is about a half hour old. from instead of marco rubio. contemplating running for reelection to the senate from florida. because of the orlando terror attack. roll tape. >> obviously i haven't thought about it from a political perspective but it most certainly impacted my thinking in general. >> now that i ask, will you at least consider it again? >> well, obviously i have a couple of things in play. it's not part of our plan as a family. i have a friend of mine running for the u.s. senate. so i want to be fair in i haven't thought about it in context. i don't want to link the two things right now because i don't want politics to interviewed in all of this. >> i understand there are people who know this issue, you are one of them. >> yeah. well. as i said, my family and i

will be praying about all of this. and we'll see what i need to do next with my life with regards to how i can best serve. stuart: all right. the music was on the radio program, by the way. >> he was being pushed here for an answer, he was being pushed into a corner. he didn't say no but every interview i've seen with him so far, he has directed himself away from being political and the timing would be very bad to announce he's running. however, interesting to hear him say that. stuart: absolutely. >> i think senator rubio has to be very careful about not permanent damaging his credibility. i've spoken a number of people to in florida who he gave assurances to after the 2014 election that he would run for reelection in the senate not for the presidency. he did run for the presidency and at that time he said unequivocally i will not run for the senate again. now, you can change your mind only so many times in politics. i think senator rubio has a bright future in front of him. he should not cloud it. stuart: i'm going to report this.

"the new york times" is saying this. the police described three encounters with the orlando gunman over several hours calling him cool and calm during the attack. ashley: yeah,. stuart: that has just reported by the new york times. seen inside that club during the attack. >> in the press conference this morning which we carried live on the fox business network. brian kilmeade is there live on the ground, and he asked the -- one of the police sheriffs i think was speaking at the moment. the police chief that was speaking, and he said they were on the phone actively trying to keep the shooter calm, and they did confirm that he stayed calm throughout their conversations. that was the whole goal. stuart: all right. i want to go straight to orlando now. fox news peter ducey is there. peter, you have an update on the victims, please. >> here at the orlando regional medical center, stuart, there are still 29 victims. five of whom are described as last updated a few minutes ago as being in grave condition.

we're told that since this is the only level one trauma center in central florida, they didn't have to transfer anybody out of here and that they are used to receiving very sick people but not to this extent. there are six surgeries scheduled for today. there's going to be throughout the night. we have seen some folks visiting. friends of theirs who are inside the hospital right now, mostly with gunshot wounds into their abdomen, including some who were in the club late on saturday, early on sunday. people seem very upset here. not just at the hospital but also at the hampton inn, which is a few blocks away. that's where the families are -- when they're not here at the hospital, and we were in the lobby a few minutes ago, very grim scene. stuart: okay. peter ducey right there in orlando. now, in about 30 seconds, we're going to hear directly from president obama. he has been holding a cabinet

meeting. he's making some comments as he comes out of that cabinet meeting. they will not be lengthy, but we they're about to start. here we go watch this now. >> are we all set? i just had the opportunity to get the latest briefing from fbi director comey as well as deputy attorney general lynch about the tragedy that took place in orlando. they're going to be doing more extensive briefing around noon. a little bit after noon over at fbi headquarters. so i will allow them to go into all the details, but i thought it was important for you to hear directly from me. first of all, our hearts go out to the families of those who have been killed. our prayers to those who have been wounded. this is a devastating effect

on all americans. it is one that is particularly painful for the people of orlando. but i think we all recognize that this could have happened anywhere in this country. and we feel enormous solidarity and grief on the families that have been affected. the fact that it took place at a club frequented by the lgbt community, i think it's also relevant. we're still looking at all the motivations of the killer. but it's a reminder that regardless of race, religion, faith, or sexual orientation, we're all americans. and we need to be looking after each other. and protecting each other at all times in the face of this

terrible act. with respect to the killer, there's been a lot of reporting that has been done. it's important to emphasize that we're still at the preliminary stages of the investigation and there's a lot more that we have to learn. the one thing that we can say is that this is being treated as a terrorist investigation. it appears that the shooter was inspired by various extremist information that was disseminated over the internet. those are currently being searched, exploited so that we will have a better sense of the pathway that the killer took in making the decision to launch this attack. as director comey and i will indicate at this stage, we see no clear evidence that he was

directed externally. it does appear that at the last minute, he announced allegiance to isil. but there's no evidence so far that he was, in fact, directed also no direct evidence that he was part of a larger plot. in that sense it appears to be similar to what we saw in san bernardino, but we don't yet know. and this is part of what is going to be important in terms of the investigation. as far as we can tell right now, certainly an example of the kind of homegrown extremism that all of us had been so concerned about for a very long time. it also appears that he was able to obtain these weapons legally because he did not have a criminal record that in some ways would prohibit him from purchasing these

weapons. it appears that one of those weapons he was able to just carry out of the store. an assault rifle, a handgun which had a lot of clips in it. he was apparently required to wait for three days under florida law. but it does indicate the degree of which it was not difficult for him to obtain these kinds of weapons. director comey will discuss the fact that there had been some investigation of him in the past. but as director comey i think will indicate, the fbi followed the procedure. at the end of the day, this is something that we are going to have to grapple with.

making sure that even as we go after isil and other extremist organizations overseas, even as we hit their leadership, even as we go after the infrastructure, even after we take key personnel off the field, even as we disrupt external plots, one of the biggest challenges we are going to have is the kind of propaganda and preversions of islam that you see generated on the internet and the capacity for that to seep into the minds of troubled individuals or weak individuals and seeing them motivated then to take action against people here in the united states and around the world that are tragic. so countering this extremist ideology is increasingly going

to be just as important as making sure that do are disrupting more extensive -- we are also going to have to make sure that we think about the risks we are willing to take by the -- that are so lacks in how we make very powerful firearms available to people in this country. and this is something i've talked about for a very long time. you know, my concern is that we start getting into a debate as has happened in the past, which is an either or debate. and the suggest is either we think about something as terrorism and we ignore the problems with easy access to firearms. or it's all about firearms, and we ignore the role, the very real role that

organizations like isil had with extremist views in this country. it's not an either or, it's an and. we have to go after the terrorist organizations and hit them hard. but it is not easy for somebody who decides they want on to harm people in this country to be able to obtain weapons. and, you know, my hope is that over the next days and weeks that we are being sober about how reproach this problem on let the facts get determined by our investigators but also have questions on what is a very challenging problem. not just here in this country but around the world. again, my final point is just to

extend our deepest sympathies to those families who were affected and send our prayers to those who are surviving. and are in hospitals right now, those family members hoping that they get better very soon. but in the meantime you can anticipate some time around noon that director comey and deputy attorney general gates will be providing you with a briefing. i think we don't yet know the motivations. but here's what we do know. is organizations like isil or organizations like al-qaeda or those who have preverted islam

and created these radical analystic vicious organizations, one of the groups they target are gays and lesbians because they believe they do not abide by their attitudes towards sexuality. now, we also know these organizations take captive women and enslave them and rape them. so they're clearly there are connections between the attitudes of an organization like this and their attitudes toward tolerance and a belief that all people are treated equally regardless of sexual orientation. that is something threatening to them. women being in power is threatening to them. so, yes, i'm sure we will find

that there are connections regardless of the motivations of this killer. there are connections in this vicious bankrupt ideology and general attitudes towards gays and lesbians. and, unfortunately, that is something that the lgbt community is subject to not just by isil but by a lot of groups that speak around the world. >> what are you tau -- >> april, i think you know what i think about it. the fact that we make it this

challenging for law enforcement, for example, even to get -- to get alerted that somebody who they are watching has purchased a gun. and if they do get alerted, something that's hard for them to stop them from getting a gun is crazy. it's a problem. and we have to -- i think do some soul search. but, again, the danger of this being a -- the usual political debate and the nra and the gun control folks say that, though, obama doesn't want to talk about terrorism and if you talk about terrorism, then people say why aren't you

looking at issues of gun control? the point is that if we have self radicalized individuals in this country, then they are going to be very difficult oftentimes to find ahead of time. and how easy it is for them to obtain weapons is in some cases going to make a difference as to whether they're able to carry out an attack like this or not. and we make it very easy for individuals who are troubled or want to engage in violent acts to get very powerful weapons very quickly. and that's a problem. that's a problem regardless of the motivations. it's a problem for a young man who can walk into a church in south carolina and murder nine

people who offered to pray with them. it is a problem, you know, when an angry young man on a college campus decides to shoot people because he feels disrespected. it's certainly a problem when we have organizations like isil or al-qaeda who are actively trying to promote violence and are doing so very effectively over the internet. because we know that at some point out of 300 million people, there are going to be some individuals who find for whatever reason that that kind of horrible propaganda enticing. and if that happens and that person can get a weapon, that's a problem. all right? >> thank you. >> thank you, guys,. stuart: okay. there you have it.

that's -- it's wrapping up. there you have it. that's the president of the united states speaking directly about the incident which took 49 lives in orlando early sunday morning. around the table, i want to go. what's your impression of those remarks, ambassador bolton? >> why is the president strange so hard to avoid radical terrorism? i think it's because he has disdain for the american people. i think he thinks they're so primitive that if he talks about radical islam, they'll get revved up and do something foolish. he says we have to do soul-searching, wrong. it's not the people. stuart: people magazine citing law enforcement sources that the shooter and his wife, which is a second wife, cased disney in april of this year. two of them checked out disney and also the pulse nightclub where the attack actually took place. judge napolitano.

the second wife. culpability here? >> of course this is a conspiracy. if this report is accurate, she was involved which leads who else was involved? . stuart: ashley i- i thought his demeanor was poor, he's not making a strong leader statement and then go on about how weak gun laws disturb individuals. missing the point. liz: at the end of the day we are going to have to grapple with this. this is why -- stuart: at the end of the day? liz: really why not now? why not immediately isn't. stuart: why not a year ago? liz: too lawyerly, this is why the teacher faculty is failing and donald trump is connectin c. stuart: michael is with us, former nypd special investigator. michael, i'm told you are watching this and fired up about it. make your point. >> you can't believe how fired up i am, stuart. let me tell you something. the first thing is how many more people have to die before we realize we're under

attack? if i was member of congress tomorrow, i would take a bill and put it on the president's desk declaring war on isis and radical islam and see what the president does with it. he'll probably throw it in the garbage pail. this man is in a front and an embarrassment for me to call him my president. i mean to stand there and say that he wasn't -- the shooter wasn't directed by isis overseas that's like saying a soldier fighting in a platoon in a battlefield leaves his group to take out a enemy machine gun nest. what are we going to do with him? make him a hero and give him a medal. stuart: so you know about surveillance. what surveillance of the muslim community in america do we have now? what surveillance of the muslim community do you want? >> the problem -- what i want, i want the same surveillance we had when i was in the organized crime control bureau in new york, and we used to surveil italian clubs and

restaurants and other meeting places. and sometimes even a place of worship if there was something radical going on. i mean i was working against the black liberation army back in the '70s. and i have to tell you, stuart. there's nothing wrong with surveilling a mosque or getting a court order for it and doing it properly. but if this guy was in new york yesterday walking down the street hiding his gun under the coat, there is no rule out there that they could have stopped him because they took out stop and frisk. the truth is nonpartisan. you can't spin the truth. stuart: michael. >> this question has to become bilingual. stuart: i do hear you. i've got judge napolitano with me listening to your comments about surveillance. speak, judge. >> well, he's talking about getting search warrants in order to surveil. that's consistent with the constitution. in order to get the search warrant, you have to have probable cause. now, we don't know what time fbi learned in their that is

right three interviews. they did not learn enough to justify the type of search warrant that michael would like to have had. the nsa listens to what he need says. and if the nsa had shared what they have learned, unless there's so much they don't have time to listen. with the fbi, this might not have happened. stuart: do you believe in sting operations where fbi agents tempt someone or ask questions of someone and maybe lead them a little? do you approve of that? >> well, the supreme court has ruled that sting operations are lawful as long as the fbi does not plant -- or the government does not plant the seed of illegal activity in the mind of the person who eventually is the defendant. in fact, then almost all of them in the modern era, they do plant that seed. stuart: okay. let me wrap this up. we just heard from president obama moments ago speaking there from the white house. we've had several tweets from hillary clinton and statement

from hillary clinton. an appearance on the today show earlier. we're going to get -- we already have a lot of tweets from donald trump, and he will have a major speech on terror this afternoon. so all the -- our leader, the president, and the two leading candidates have and will weigh in on this issue. howard kurtz is with me. the host of media buzz on the fox news channel. howard, it's my impression -- you can say this is political or not. but it's my impression there is two distinct different approaches being taken here. the left, that would be president obama and hillary clinton viewing this as primarily a gun control issue. and a hate issue. donald trump looks at it as a security war terror issue. and i think that's the way it's being portrayed in the mainstream media. you disagree? >> yes. and we've been through this so many times before where candidates and commentators retreat to the ideological corners. i notice it he white house the president just said it

shouldn't be either or. but clearly his emphasis, hillary clinton's emphasis has been on tight background checks and gun control and, boy, really iniveness cover the l.a. news has thanks, nra. stuart: howard for the benefit of our viewers who have not seen it yet, this is the front page of the daily news. thanks, nra. as you said, howard, in other words, it's purely and simply a gun issue and that's it. >> at least as that type log renders it. now, in this case of donald trump who has gotten some donald trump for saying i told you so on twitter, he of course reemphasissing something that was very popular in primaries that of course putting a temporary ban on muslims. but in this particular case, that would have not prevented omar manteen because he was an american citizen and living in florida. stuart: do you look down on this in some way that it's politicized? >> i look down at insensitivity and demagoguery but this is the biggest mass

killing on u.s. soil since 9/11. of course it should be front and center in the campaign. of course the media should be all over th over it. of course there should be a big debate on what to do on both fronts. so i don't look down on it at all. i think politicizing leaders ceases the moment. as long as they're not engaging in outright demagoguery or personal attacks, this is the debate the country needs to have. stuart: we are told this afternoon donald trump will make a speech on terror and his spokesperson katrina pearson said it won't be reigned in but it will be on teleprompter. istic it the media will be watching this very, very carefully. >> absolutely, look, this is a crisis where everyone would imagine what would it be like if donald trump were president? so the tone he strikes is as important as particulars of the speech that we'll see in new hampshire. stuart: michael, would you stay there for a second, howard. michael solomon, still with

us. former nypd guy. specialist in surveillance. you know what you're talking about in that area. do you think we'll get any change in the surveillance regime so to speak? in the next six months. >> if we bring back the patriot act originally in congress. stuart: we're not going to. >> that's unfortunate. i know. something the judge said. before you have probable cause, you have to start with reasonable suspicion. reasonable suspicion is when the fbi questioned this guy two years ago. they should have surveilled him even further and then they can get an order or whatever they need. and then the other thing you mentioned sting operations. it's not entrapment if you coerce something to do something they would ordinarily do. if you converse them to do something they wouldn't ordinarily do, that's entrapment.

so it's a fine line there. and as far as the daily news and guns, if we closed every gun shop and gun show in america tomorrow and every gun range, these guys would still get guns. and if they didn't have guns, they would do go something else. he could have walked in there with a gallon of gasoline and burn the place down. there's chemicals that you can find under your kitchen sink to kill hundreds of people in minutes. stuart: judge is still with us. i want to ask you, judge, what would you do now within the constitution, what would you do on surveillance to improve our view of what's going on in the muslim community? >> well, what michael suggested is perfectly consistent with the law. if you have what's called articulatable suspicion, a stated purpose for questioning the behavior of a person, you can use that as an instrument with which to commence an investigation of that person and often find out more, which is enough for probable cause. so on a scale of one to 100, articulatable suspicion is about 25 and probable cause is about 50.

the probable cause is necessary for a surveillance. but suspicion is a slow threshold efficient to allow more investigative tools to be applied to the person. stuart: howard kurtz, i know you're still with us. are you there, sir? >> i am here. stuart: i want you to judge me. i've expressed anger this morning. my prevailing emotion less than 48 hours after this disgraceful, horrific outrage in orlando. i've expressed outrage. now, this show has my name on it. and it is an opinion show. have i gone too far? >> no. i think it's perfectly fine for you to express anger and outrage because the country is angry as well as numb after so many of these attacks, and i don't think we have to white wash or sanitize how we feel about this. i know president obama always tries to maintain a cool demeanor and was criticized by some members of your panel by this. we have seen this movie before, after paris and so forth. the final point on the media coverage. "the new york times" leads off by saying that donald trump

sought to capitalize on this tragedy by talking about a muslim man and so forth. in the same story, it talks about hillary clinton's response after some initial restraint talking about gun control. that is also seeking to capitalize. so i think that the media have to be fair here as we air this debate not to could you say one side or the other of demagoguery if both candidates are putting for there their proposals to try to prevent or minimize future tragedies of this kind. stuart: howard courteous, they very much indeed for joining us. appreciate it, sir. michael solomon, same thing. thank you for being with us. ambassador john bolton, thank you very much indeed. i'm going to give the last word to judge napolitano. i don't know why. [laughter] >> well, the president' the the president's leadership is tepid and lacking and if mrs. clinton think so she's going to link onto that bootstrap. that was the most uninspiring statement he has ever made. stuart: i think he gave a lawyer's response as opposed to a leader.

but that's my opinion. liz: we need a leader now. >> from one lawyer to leader, fully agreed. stuart: thank you very much, one and all. we do appreciate you all being with us. charles payne. it's a very important day. glad you're in today. take it away. >> thank you very much, stanley. in just minutes we will get an update from fbi director james comey. this as we're hearing chilling new details on the gunman that was behind the worst mass shooting in u.s. history. omar manteen was is inspired by extremist information on the internet. connell mcshane has the details. connell: well, you know, charles, they're looking at a number of different thing surrounding this guy but would you be would be electronics and we've been told this since yesterday when the investigation was really at its early stages looking at cell phone communication, laptop communication, also the hardware on