thanks for joining us. good night from new york. keep it right here, the man himself, lou dobbs is next. fox business. lou: good evening. i'm lou dobbs. people in orlando, the nation, the world tonight mourning 49 people slaughtered in a radical islamist terror attack on a gay nightclub. the deadliest mass shooting in american history. authorities digging into the background of 29-year-old omar mateen. he was previously investigated by the f.b.i. for his remarks about support of mayor rifle. he was armed with an ar-15 semi-automatic nightclub and a

handgun when he approached the fuss nightclub at 2:00 in the morning. he engaged a police officer but he was able to enter the nightclub and gain entry. officers arrived and they were able to drive him into the bathroom where he held hostages. ' but at 5:15 officers bunched a hole in the wall. when mateen climbed out. he engaged in fire with the police, and was gunned down. f.b.i. director james comey said mateen had strong indications of terrorist sympathies and he called 911 during the attack and pledged loyalty to the islamic state. but at the white house president

obama called it another apparent example of what he termed quote homegrown extremism. among our guests. phil gavin and fox news terrorism expert dr. walid phares and the tearest attack resonating on the campaign trail where donald trump blasted president obama for his refusal to blame the massacre on radical islam. >> they have put political correctness above common sense. above your safety and above all else. i refuse to be politically correct. the media talks about home-grown terrorism. but islamic radicalism and that's a very, very important term, a term that the president refuses to use, and the networks that nurture it are imports from joaferl seas. whether you like the or whether

you don't like it. lou: mike pompeo will join us tonight. orlando gunman omar mateen was born in new york. he was raised in florida to afghan immigrants. mateen was known to the f.b.i. who investigated shim twice for terrorist ties. in may of 2013 the f.b.i. opened what turned out to be a 10-month long investigation. after mateen told his co-workers he had family ties to al qaeda. was a member of a shiia terrorist organization and hoped the feds would raid his home and assault his family so he could retaliate and back martyr. the f.b.i. did two in-person interviews in which mateen admitted making terrorist flames to flip out as he put it his co-workers because they teased him for being muslim.

the f.b.i. found this information if not plausible, at least acceptable. he went to the same mosque as the suicide booker in syria. at that time a witness told the f.b.i. mateen was watching videos of radical american cleric and war al-awlaki. bust fine need evidence of intent to commit a crime before they could act. former nypd officer and secret service agent. dan, your reaction to the -- to the carnage on one man's absolute insistence that he

would be a martyr and kill as many americans as possible. >> this is disturbing. these sole pro priors, i refuse to call them lone wolves. these sole proprietors soft target attacks. isis figured out a long time ago, roughly than spend a million dollars training a small cell of terrorists to fly 737s into buildings and leaving potential clues behind, but that they could do a social media video and inspire someone like this murderer. this is the new terrorist foot point for the path forward.

lou: the f.b.i., the local police, they seem to react as quickly as they knew how. and the tragic loss of life is just something this administration seems to suggest we should accept. i don't know of any american who is willing to call this the new normal and accept this as the way in which we are going to live. >> there is absolutely no way it can be or should be accepted in the way we are going to live in this country. we have a strong country that can do what is necessary to eliminate this scourge. to take them out in syria, and to also use the resources here in the homeland to get rid of them here, too. but we have somebody residing in the white house that refuses to identify the problem for what it is, radical islamic extremism. we have somebody in the white house who tried to tie the hands and gag the military from doing

the job they can do so well. he has absolutely tried to change the aspects of the f.b.i. or intelligence agencies. he's trying to create a united states in his own image and likeness. but unfortunately he created a presidency that looks more lining longfellow's wreck of the hesperius it's deplorable. lou: the white house insisted on a change reaching into various agencies includingment f.b.i. to purge what it considered to be politically incorrect language that could influence investigation and the ability of the f.b.i. to carry out its responsibilities. your thoughts, bill? >> that he did. he reached in and had training programs change. thanked verbiage changed because

he thought it quo would be offensive to muslims. it isn't offensive to citizens of this country who care for this country. it's offensive only to potus, and unfortunately it transfers all the way down to the rest of the agencies that have to be responsible to him. lou: as you look at what is happening, there seems to be a tremendous disconnect at the in terms of intelligence. this is one man-knows how many people the f.b.i. has to deal with and has to worry about, and to investigate. but then this man -- there are suggestions that the f.b.i. couldn't come to any other conclusion because of politically correct limits just as bill was talking about in it investigation. they couldn't go beyond to his two trips to saudi arabia.

your thoughts? >> well, they could. bill is right. i worked with the f.b.i. on joint terror task force cases. one large one that the department of homeland security used as a model for training. these f.b.i. agents know exactly what they are doing. there are very good and very talented. it's the pressure the top from the d.o.j. to run politically correct investigations that put the lives of americans in real danger in real-time. it's like asking a master carpenter to build a bookcase with no hammer when you ask the f.b.i. to do things under politically correct rules under surveillance because they don't want to offend people. lou: saying that we are at war with the islamic state, saying

if he's elected president there will be a pause in immigration from muslims from islamic jihadist regionals of the world until we know what we are doing and what they are doing. this idea of political correctness has left us extraordinarily vulnerable. he used the term, "this deadly ignorance can't go on." will, your thoughts as we wrap up. >> i wish i could do something more than shrug my shoulders and say he's wrong. but he's not wrong. i would love for him to package it differently to get more votes. but he's saying what everybody kind of believes in. it's going to be a tragic set of circumstances unless we make the course corrections. lou: it seem almost inconceivable that a president could risk the lives of americans, the national security

of the nation because of some sort of high-bound and unshared vision of what is politically correct and what is a responsibility and a duty of the commander-in-chief and the president of the united states. dan? >> yeah, you are right. but you have to understand. when you triage your priority, and barack obama's first priority is i fundamental transformation to the social structure of the united states. we have to stop asking why. when you figure out barack obama is motivated by a specific set of societal transformations altering the united states citizens' relationship with the government, all of this makes sense. what is his first position? gun control? do you realize the terrorists have to be laughing at us?

they ahe -- attacked us, and the president of the united states' first response is disfarm yourselves while he's sitting in a white house protected by secret service agents. it's absurd it's an outrange. lou: thank you both. we are coming right back. there is much more to cover, and we'll. stay with us. how does president obama respond to the orlando terrorist attack? he calls for more gun control. he won't even use the words "radical islamist." donald trump today delivered his most important foreign policy speech so far. he declared war against the islamic state. >> when i'm elected i will suspend immigration from areas of the world where there is a

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lou: donald trump called for a temporary ban on countries known for terrorism and he called for increased surveillance of mosques during an interview with "fox and friends" this morning. >> we have to be strong with our military security. we have to be strong in term of looking at the mosques. lou: dr. walid phares, a foreign policy adviser to donald trump. let's talk about the president's refusal to use the "radical islamist" term. he referred to it as home-grown extremism. word that mean nothing. and he uses it with great enthusiasm which suggests he wants to convey nothing.

your thoughts? >> well, he just tried to explain the perpetrator of the massacre yesterday was inspired by these extremist ideas. so what are these extremist idea? it look like there is a bridge miles long and nobody in his administration is able to explain. it's all we need to know. americans would like to know how to recognize a jihadist. you have to explain it, mr. president. lou: radical islamists. i have been using that term on this broadcast since early 2012 since we did a lot of on-air discussion about terms and terminology to define the tell ban and al qaeda. and those were the word that were utility then according to

the best mind covering and studying islam, arab scholars,at studies. why is it this president has such a resistance to the term. >> that's the question of the century. worldwide academically, these are the terms. i have news for you. last year i was in egypt. and i immediate with the grand imam. he's the equivalent of a pope of the sunnis. guess what he calls these terrorists. calls theme haddist salafist extremists. why is it the leader of america is not calling them with the same terms? lou: the reaction to those folks that you talk with overseas.

whether they be sunni, shiia, wherever they may be throughout the muslim world, to donald trump's speech today. >> there i this whole propaganda idea which is manufactured by the enemies or the opponents of mr. trump, the whole world has gone crazy that mr. trump is. and what many of these opinion makers in the gulf and egypt and north trick and elsewhere are saying we need a change in your policy. we need the united states policy to change so we can stop the iran deal as mr. trump said in his speech. that we stop the influence of the muslim brotherhood, that we crush isis. they are in favor of a change and that will only come with a trump administration. lou: dr. walid phares.

be sure to vote in our poll tonight. should any american be surprised we haven't defeated an enemy president obama will not even name and will not fight. cast your vote on twitter at lou dobbs. a reminder i say follow me on twitter. lings to everything found at lou zobs.com. -- at lou dobbs.com. this president said he would degrade and destroy the islamic state two years ago. hillary clinton finally saying the word "radical islam." >> hillary clintonmore for months repeatedly refused to even say the words "radical islam" until i challenged her yesterday and guess what, she'll probably say them. she sort of has said them. lou: the importance of naming

the enemy. part of what i'll talk about tonight in my commentary. much more straight ahead on whether or not donald trump deserves credit for the shift in the language of one hillary clinton.

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lou: a few thoughts on president obama's campaign of political correctness. president obama has been carrying psychological operations against the american people i believe since he began his campaign for the white house. he conducted psychological warfare against the truth and the trust of the american people, while he did so ever since he sat down in the oval office. president obama has throughout his administration tried often successfully to diminish our anger at the radical islamist

terrorists who have so grievously injured this nation. he changed the words he employed. he permitted his administration to employ words many of us never heard in conjunction with radical islamist terrorists. the administration asked the media to do the same thing. even his political opponents used the same words which limited the debate. president obama called omar mateen's deadly massacre of dozen of fellow citizens quote an act of terror and an act of hate. by including the implication of a hate crime, he denied the islamic state's ba state's statn

individual emotion unrelated to the variant of that emotion that motivated mateen. the president still couldn't call the bloodbath radical islamist terrorism despite the islamic state's claim of responsibility for the attack and the established relationship between mateen and radical islamist clerics, including perhaps his own father. this is the president trying to elevate the ambiguity between cause and effect. radical islam and the horrific orlando tragedy. this our president dampening blame. and the murdering bar murder --e murdererrous barbaric results. >> this is the homegrown extremism all of us have been concerned about for.

>> very long time. lou: he validated himself or tried to with words as best i can determine mean absolutely nothing. homegrown extremism? white house spokesman josh earnest says the president choose his words carefully. adding that he doesn't want to give the terrorist organization legitimacy which referring to them as radical islamists. what utter nonsense. you have to give donald trump considerable credit. trump in plain language condemned the obama administration and ignorance posing as enlightment. trump blamed the carnage squarely on the president's white house and his inability to name the enemy. trump forced hillary clinton today to shift her language and

use the words she has refused to even whisper for most of this past decade. >> to me radical jihaddism or radical islam are practically the same thing. but it mat wear we do, what we say. lou: i think she was about to say what difference does it make, but she caught herself just in time of. having the guts to name our enemy will be the least of the courage needed to destroy our enemy. donald trump is the only one who has shown that resolve. mr. obama insists bush's global war on terror be replaced hi his term, overseas contingency operation. remember that one? that was in the first year of barack obama's term in office.

i settled on the phrase radical islamist? 2002 after consulting middle east and islamic scholars over a two week period in our discussion on the air. here we are 14 years and two administrations later, and our government will not speak forthrightly. in fact we have seen after 14 years, to be no nearer victory than september 11, 2001. the cost of our war on radical islamist terror has been amiss. yesterday that cost tragically went higher. when will we demand of our military, not a long war which is far more rationalization than a strategy. but instead a military strategy

to ends the war that has been almost three times longer than world war ii. overseas contingency operation that's gone on for almost a decade and a half. our quotation of the evening on psychological warfare, the concept is hardly new. but the new technology makes ps sp y-ops all the more -- psy-ops all the more powerful in foalian said there are all but two powers in the world. the sword and the mind. in the long run the sword is always beaten by the mind. donald trump said america isn't afford any more weak leaders in the white house. and certainly not hillary clinton. >> she supports so much of ways

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lou: congressman mike pompeo will be talking in just a few moments. stocks fell, the dow lost 133 points to, the s & p14.the nasd. -- 46. suggesting some anxiety in the markets. certainly anxiety in asia and europe. they sold off on a concern about a slowing economy, radical islamist terrorism and the likelihood of the exit of the united kingdom. microsoft buying linked in paying $26 billion in cash. president obama used the terrorist attacks in orlando to

call on congress to impose stricter gun control measures >> how easy it is for them to obtain weapons is in some cases going to make a difference as to whether they are able to carry out attacks like this or not. and we make it very easy for individuals who are troubled or disturbed or want to engage in violent acts to get powerful weapons very quickly. lou: my next guest says there is no place in this country immune from the threat of radical islamist terrorism. joining me, congressman mike pompeo. no mention of the president -- he didn't choose to mention his promise to degrade and destroy the islamic state. he chose instead gun control. your thoughts?

>> well, lou. i think it's appalling if not unsurprising that he went down this path. the gun control issue with respect to what happened in orlando is a complete dodge. we have watched these attacks in places that had enormous gun control and we still see folks that are murdered. we ought to be talking about how it is we are going to find these islamist terrorists to insure the people. america are safe. lou: donald trump said it's well past time that we get smart, we get diligent and we get tough. there is nothing tough about a president or even that of a super power that promises to degrade and destroy the islamic state and two years later it is if anything stronger not weaker.

>> the threat in the homeland is greater than it's been in the 3 1/2 years i have been serving on the intelligence committee. it's going to take a concerted american effort. local law enforcement the intelligence community. the president who can do what it takes to keep america safe from the threat of radical islamic terrorism such as the tragedy that occurred in orlando. lou: the fact that this 29-year-old terrorist who is responsible for such ba barbariy traveled twice to saudi arabia and had contacts with the f.b.i. we are told there were restraints in place that

prevented the fine from doing more if there was more that could have been done. >> i don't know the full rundown. but those folks are out doing really good work. they have taken down really good plots. but we need to make sure they have all the tools they need to track these folks down. the resources they need to monitor them to keep them safe. we all know what he was inspired by. we know what drove his heart that day and we have to make sure and defeat it every place we can. >> i have heard over the course of the last 24 hours a number of people use the word what inspired him. i prefer the word at the lier highest level motivated. there is something about looking at the blood on the floors, that nightclub. those bodies, and to think

anybody -- i mean this is such barbarity. when is there going to be adequate revulsion in the house, in the senate, in the white house to do something which this super power is cape be of doing? 14 years of this? 15 years of this? and this super power cannot bring to heel these sick bare barbaric excuses for human beings. >> we have watched this white house for 7 1/years refuse to call it what it i. euphemisms to pretend this is not a hateful ideology driven by a desire to kill folks in the west. when we across knowledge that

and respond in a way that is serious to take it down. whether it's iraq, syria or kansas. otherwise, lou, we are doomed to see repeats of what we saw last sunday in orlando. it would be tragic for america and it's totally unnecessary. lou: congressman pompeo oh thanks for being here. appreciate it. donald trump is coming down hard on hillary clinton. >> she is in total denial and her continuing reluctance to ever name the enemy broadcasts weakness across the entire world. true weakness. lou: trump's chief policy lou: trump's chief policy advisor, sam slow advic

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lou: joining us trump campaign national policy advisor sam clovis. donald trump blasting barack obama and hillary clinton are there any democrats left standing after donald trump's speech on foreign policy? >> i think a lot of the democrats will have to take a

hard look at what they are doing and how they are identifying or not identifying this issue. you go to any 12-step program and the first thing you have to do is recognize you have a problem. if you can't recognize you have a problem, there is no chance of a cure. specifically president obama and secretary clinton. lou: i don't suppose there is any profit or reward for donald trump at this juncture to hold back. following this attack, the issues are clear, straightforward, and in my judgment beyond argument. the enemy you can define as radical islamic terrorists. >> i want to make a distinction here. radical islam is the philosophy, the ideology. terror is a technique or tactic. we just have to be careful when we go through this.

radical islam manifests itself in a lot of ways. my friend and colleague walid phares talks about the muslim brotherhood and that's one of the most nefarious organizations in the world and it's not identified by our state department as a terrorist organizations. lou: radical islamist terrorism, that's why i always use all three word. radical islamist terrorism. and radical islam is the enemy of this country and the ideology that it contains in my judgment at least. trump today saying he would give the authorities to shut down the travel of immigrant from countries and regions that are involved in jihad and attacks against this country. i have not heard at least, and this is still anecdotal. but i have not heard the reaction that came close to the

first time he broached the subject. it seems as though he is without question going to assert this as a principle part of his foreign policy. he means to give no quarter i infer from what he is saying about the islamic state. it's remarkable that this president knowing it's an election year, that hoik is even ganged, has come across so weak. talking about homegrown extremism, whatever that means. instead of radical islamist terror. >> mr. trump is on the right side of all this and has been since the start. if you remember back to the 8th of february in new hampshire. 72% of the people who went in to vote, democrat and republican sided with mr. trump on having a pause on people coming to this country from other countries. one of the things i think it we ought to give notice to, we have

to talk to our allies in europe and around the world to help us in this vetting process. this is in their interest to do this because we have a lot of people who transit, charles de gaulle or come through frankfurt or gatwick. and those have to be screened as well. lou: as we wrap up here, we are out of time, i want to give donald trump credit for two things that happened with hillary clinton. he was taking it seemed prospectively credit for her moving to use the terms radical islamist which she hadn't done for years. but also today she came out and admonished saudi arabia, qatar and kuwait governments donors to her foundation for not doing enough to keep their people from funding terrorism. a me remarkable day for mrs. clinton.

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lou: joining us now charlie hurt and mercedes schlapp. mercedes, let's start with you. hillary clinton has changed her language on radical jihadist terrorism. and admonishing saud saudi arabd question tar and kuwait for not cracking down on donors to radical jihadist terrorism. >> it was more for political convenience than anything else that moved from the primary to general election. when you look at her comments december 2015. she said she didn't use the word radical islam because it sounds

like we are declaring a war on religion. lou: what kind of moron would think that. and who would insult the american people that way and then run for president of the united states? >> this is what she does. she is so masterful at twisting the words when it's convenient for her. >> obviously what she is saying she is admitting she is committing a war on religion. she can run but she cannot hide from the record. she is running as an incumbent. she owns all of this, all of the mayhem that we have around the world right now. even in, you know, make it even worse is the fact she served as secretary of state for so long. so she was the author of so much of this. i think it will dog her all the way to november. lou: also dogging her will be

the third term model of her candidacy. president obama coming out today and talking about not radical islamist terrorism. he came up with something brand-new. brands spanking new. he called in his folksy way home-grown extremism. what does that mean? >> obama is running out of terminology. he's losing this war against isis. he goes from not want to go talk about radical is lamb to shifting gears and using this homegrown extremism. we are not dealing with what is the problem. when you look at this particular terrorist he was links to a radical imam. he took online courses on terrorism. clearly what we saw with the boston bombers and san bernardino. it's the same narrative with each of these terrorists. >> it's amazing that he also

brought up the thing about gun control it refeels not that we haven't known this for a good 7 1/2 years, how out of touch he is with people. most law-biding americans saw that this atrocity and thought, man, our government is not handling this issue. i'm going to get some more ammo, i'm going to protect my neighbors and my family. what does obama do? he goes after gun control. lou: 14 months of record gun sales and surging stock prices for the gun makers and he doesn't even take note of that. charlie hurd and her shea dees schlapp, thank you for being with us. thanks for being with us. ed rollins, please be with us.

thanks for joining us. good night from new york. [♪] kennedy: the first shots were fired yesterday morning at pulse night club in orlando. the story became a exercise. our two presidential hopefuls lunged at their talking points. trump were tweeted out what happened in orlando is only the beginning. i sculd and ask for the ban. must be tough. >> i believe weapons of war have no place on our street.