lou: we are covering breaking news. president obama reacting to the attacks in nice, in which he condemned what appears to be a horrific terrorist attack in france. president obama said he direct his national security team to stay in touch with french official and has offered any assistance they may require to bring those responsible to justice. joining me is the president of the american forum.

the number dead confirmed is 73. we expect the number to go higher on the advice of lower media quoting police sources. we also know more than 100 people have been injured in this attack in which a tractor-trailer drove across the promenade in the coastal tourist city -- one of the greatest attractions of france, southern france, and just mowed down dozens upon dozens of people. that's the truck driving into the crowd on the promenade. no barriers to impede its travel into the promenade. no thought that anything like this would happen, and of course it is precisely the soft target that radical islamists, the islamic state seek, and they

tonight struck. the questions, the conflicts con found themselves, the tragedy. the heinous barbarism of radical islam, the emotions that are set here in motion are just so powerful and we have been living with it for 15 years. your thoughts as we see france struck by presume bit islamic state. -- presumably by the islamic state. >> as a muslim i hope and pray we in the muslim community begin to channel our anger as french and americans, to channel that into a responsibility to act. because as this demonstrates, you can't follow weapons.

they can use anything, vehicles to cause mayhem and destruction. they want to distrupt free societies. the symbolism of this happening on bastille day, the day of the french revolution, the day that symbolizes their freedom is beyond words. i hope we begin to top emphasizing this for one week after the attack and begin to connect the dots. we have a major security problem where we are countering violent extremism and we don't know what that is. the ideologies that create these monsters, the viruses they share in common, it's one virus. jihadism, anti-westernism. the french went into mosques and

raided three of them that had arms inside them and they still weren't able to prevent this. there are too many points on the data scale that we are ignoring to this point. lou: the points degree ignored include the reality are there are people who mean to destroy, in this instance, france, and all of europe. there is a massive inflow from northern africa and the middle east into southern europe and now germany, france. and the nation states, the european union itself doesn't exhibit any will whatsoever to defend itself by vetting the people coming into their country, by insisting upon assimilation rather than creating ghettos and dystopa.

what are they to do? and what are we to do? >> we are as a free society and nations to embrace the reality that our enemies know what we are and that's why they attack us. our enemies know what they are, too. they are the theocrats who want. we are fighting ideologies that are refusing to assimilate. community that refuse to embrace freedom and reject theocratic islam, but embrace a liberal islam that is reformed and modernized. the free-thinking muslims at the head of the speafer this are

marginalized. all we are doing is focusing on the end point of terror instead of the precursors of the call drontcursors -- of thecauldrons. you can't fix the problem of terrorism in europe until you fix the problem of assad and isis in iraq and syria where these ideas are being brewed. lou: when you promise to degrade and destroy it, degrade and destroy it. >> the precursors are the ideas. if you can't name the ideas, you can't diagnose it or treat it. all you are doing is waiting for postmortems. until we do premortems, i testified to the senate, senator cruz had a hearing with willful

blindness. we are willfully blind of these radical ideas and this whack a mole process has to stop. lou: another instance of radical islamist terror. joining us now on the form. former u.s. ambassador to the united nations, senior fellow john bolton, also a fox news contributor. we are also joined by bill gavin. when he was in paris there were signs of a significant presence of authority on the streets, law enforcement on the streets. but this was not wasly not anticipated. intelligence here -- we are asking intelligence agencies to

do all but the impossible. to identify the motives, the intentions, and the plans and the acts of radical islamist terrorists in a free society. and we are not having immense success at that. are we? >> no, we are not having immense success in various areas, lou. what surprises me here is we talk about holidays, national holidays, the bastille. what happened here tonight is like somebody driving that truck across the mall in washington, d.c. during the fireworks at the 4th of july. where are the barricades? what kinds of security did they have here and who is responsible for the security? you can't just take a straightback truck like this and drive it amongst all those pedestrians. think about them they are shoulder to shoulder.

they have no place to go but under the wheels of this barbarian who drove this truck. it seems to me you can equate it as catherine herridge said right back to isis. lou: there seems to be no other explanation. i think it may be a sign that we are -- we are beginning to learn that this is not a courtroom, it's not a court of law. this is about understanding that our enemies are sophisticated at least in the ways of the street, and know how to best do us harm for the least cost in their lives. the least expense in their efforts. grabbing a vehicle, driving into a group of celebrants of bastille day. and we then talk about flying f-16s and sending cruise missiles off against targets. spending millions of dollars

where they spend an evening creating terror. ambassador bolton, we are learning more, we are learning that there is very little doubt that this was an attack, intentional. there was nothing by the that wasn't planned. what are your thoughts tonight about where it lead france, europe and the united states. >> i think now this should be clear to governments all over europe and the united states that this series of attacks now in just a relatively few weeks. you can go back to "charlie hebdo" in paris or a year ago. but you think of the pace as ramadan came to a conclusion in bangladesh and istanbul and the earlier attacks at brussels airport, and now nice, not to mention san bernardino, orlando and our long list.

it would be nice to have a national leader say that we have to treat this for what it is, and we should have a up it of nato heads of state and figure out what our strategy is going to be. this isn't going to be done by law enforcement. somebody needs to take the lead or we'll see this repeated. it is the death toll that ought to cause people to say, i'm willing to relook at my view of the world in light of reality. lou: it' interesting the statement from president obama from the white house. he said we'll provide any help to the french to bring those responsible for these attacks to justice. i don't want to equitable legalistically about the terminology. but justice isn't what's required here. it's a military response to an enemy of civilized people, is it not? >> when you are in a war paradigm justice consists of

defeating the enemy and eradicating their capability. it doesn't mean reading them their miranda right and giving them a criminal justice system trial. i don't think the president can across many what's happening here. once it begins to break through, the consequences in terms of what the responses should be is clear. it goes back to how you deal with isis, in syria and iraq and elsewhere in libya, somali and yemen. even if we were to prevail tomorrow in syria and iraq, isis would continue to do this. there is a real need to get serious here. whether the president understands that or not, we'll have to see. lou: there is a short ramp in which that kind of -- well, evolution in thinking can take place, given the time he has left in office.

i want to go if you will just a moment. deirdre bolton is here with new information on the number of people killed. the number of people wound in this horrific attack in nice. and we'll go to bil -- to bill gavin. deirdre: when we were counting the death toll we were at 73. it has moved up to 75. 15 are in very critical condition and may not survive. and 50 other injured people. but you were talking about that report that multiple guns and grenades were found in the truck. some local police are saying thank god the police shot that driver. this is one of the most popular sea front in europe. it's estimated 40,000 people

were in that general area, that promenade des anglais. so it could have been a much higher death toll had he not been shot. lou: it's already horror are you figure. we are following the breaking news out of nice. the paris prosecutor's office. this is a formality that seems almost farcical, but opened a terrorist investigation after this attack by a semi tractor in nice will be france. dr. walid phares joining us next. ♪ 4 by 4 those who jump start the weekend. the ones who want to see it all...

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lou: donald trump issued two statement in speaking to gretta van susteren. he's taking a very tough position on how to deal with the islamic state, talking early were our colleague bill o'reilly just moments ago. bill: would you go to congress and ask for a declaration of war? >> i would. i would. this is war. if you look at it. this is war coming from all different parts. frankly it's war and we are dealing with people without uniforms. lou: joining us now, one my

guests says the change in u.s. policy is a must. walid phares is also a foreign policy advisor to donald trump. a today include racial of war in fact unilaterally and by executive action, if you will, president obama declared war. he said he would degrade and destroy the islamic state more than two years ago. he has done oh so little. >> well, on october, 2001 president bush declared war. the nine commission told americans we are at war and we need strategies and the doctrine. in 2009, president obama changed all of that. look at the doctrine. the united states national security doctrine from 2009 on removed any indication we are at

war with an ideology. reduesed it to the organization. there is nothing about jihadism. this is what mr. trump will be changing. a didn't direction. lou: that change would be the friend' would say is overdue. -- the french would say is overdue. president hollande declared war against the islamic state but has not carried through on that declaration. when we go back to november of last year after the paris attacks, nothing happened. so little happens. this president leading nato, leading our european allies. in what direction? it seems to be at an utter stalemate. and only the feeblist of actions

taken. >> most of our allies are at war. it will be france, belgium, great britain. other countries, russia. western civilization as a core. the problem in washington we don't want to recognize that. we don't recognize we are dealing with the ideology. if you look at statements made in france and britain. even in the arab world they call it jihadism, they understand. we are the leaders of the world and we are looking in a different direction. lou: dr. walid phares. thank you. we appreciate it as always. sources are telling fox news that the islamic state accounts online are celebrating and telling followers to use the nice trash tags.

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lou: breaking news. two sources say islamic online accounts are celebrating the nice attacks, telling followers to use nice hash tags. it gives you a sense of the level of interest online and in social media. joining us tonight the founder

of the american islamic alliance zuhdi jasser. let's start, steve, with you. we are watching just a coin was of attacks against -- we are watching a continuation of attacks against the west. there does not seem to be a governmental response. until it's a few missiles launched in the direction of raqqa. but nothing sustained or effective. >> donald trump tweeted, "when are we going to learn in?" blood has been spilled on the streets. the battlefield is here, it's time we spill their blood. until the president of the united states comes to grip with the fact that this is an enemy, we are going to see more blood spilled here.

lou: we are watching this administration move more people out of gitmo. they are turning up on the battlefield carrying out acts of terrorism, many of them. what are we to do with this kind of irrational response to what is a clear and present danger? >> first a military response. first and foremost. take out their command and control centers. take out the oil fields, take out the supply lines. let them pay the price. the president of the united states has cut funding to every police department in this country as a result of the ferguson effect. we don't want the arm police, it looks too military. as a result of what happened in dallas, as a result of what happened all over the world, we have to give our police officers at the local level the equipment they need to fight this war. lou: zud we are getting video in

the immediate aftermath of the truck hitting the promenade and injuring dozens upon dozens of people, killing at last count, deirdre bolton said 75 confirmed dead. here are the people lying on the ground, injured, some of them dead and dying. the truck driver was shot, the police, we are told four police officers fired into the tractor cab of the semi-tractor trailer. stopped the tractor. and then as soon as he got on the ground, they were able to kill him. this is the truck that hit all of those people, carrying out a zigzag pattern in an obvious

effort to hurt and to kill as many people as possible. zuhdi, on the issue of as steve just said. donald trump talking about when will we learn our lesson? why is it so difficult to learn the lesson that people are trying to kill us and mean to do so until they are stopped? >> i think it's because of laziness. i think it's because they look upon the president on down looks upon it as to hard to take on what is happening within the house of islam. and by ignoring it, they are ignoring a quarter of the world's population i will til as a reform-minded muslim is going through the same process that the west went through that created america and created france when they fought back against theocracy.

unless muslims start to say we are at war with terrorism which is a tactic, but with political islam and islamism of the call drons ocall -- and the cauldronf saudi arabia. they don't want to do that. they think it many too much of a mess and just call it terrorism and continue to feed the beast killing our citizens on our streets and across the world. i agree with the military approach my colleague just talked about. but you can't kill all the jihadists. this long war will have to be fought by muslims, and until the west gets in this battle we'll continue to lose. lou: coming up next, terror strikes nice, france. 75 people killed. national security expert dr. sebastian gorka joins us next. ♪

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lou: there has been no convincing identification tore claim of responsibility for the terrorist attacks in nice. but a former senior intelligence official tells us back? 2010 the al qaeda magazine "inspire" called on followers to use trucks as kill magazines to kill civilians, and the islamic state using many of the same techniques. joining us, dr. sebastian gorka, the chair of military theory at at marine corps university. huniversity. sebastian great to have you with us. no claim of responsibility. it seems superfluous to even

consider the claim. >> the al qaeda english language magazine "infire" several years sea go -- "inspire" had a fines picture of a f-150 pickup truck. the article was explicit. you don't need access to automatic weapons. you can kill the infidel with your truck. this shouldn't have surprised anybody. you can ban all the ar rifles in the worlds or the today laugh thaclashand they willstill come. we have had jihadi attacks all the across the continent.

the rock concert with the american band at the bataclan theater. we had brussels and in mayor cap san bernardino with the christmas parties and orlando. they changed their tactics it's no longer the big spectacular. they said in their publications, they said just look for high concentrations of unarmed civilians. and it's work for them unfortunately. lou: soft targets. as we have seen at the close of ramadan. their attacks increase in frequency and intensity. and that seems to be what we are to expect in the days and weeks ahead. because europe is ham strong in so many ways by a conflict and in some ways a paralyzed political structure, the european iewn joint self.

and the individual nation states that are not in any financial condition to spend large amounts of money to pursue the very enemy that means to destroy them. >> you are absolutely right. this is a crisis point for our allies in europe. they have been walking down this road for 30 years of ever increasing federalization. this project europe fantasy of the bureaucrats in brussels. and you have these political elites who say let's open our borders. germany, we'll take over 1 million refugees? what's happening? we know in the brings attacks -- in the brussels attack, at least one of them was on a false syrian passport and he had won refugee status in the european union. what more do you need? this is national suicide. the policies that they are

following, the multi-culturallism and the lack of border controls is leading to these kinds of attacks because the terrorists will exploit this type of political situation, lou. lou: the obama administration which is trying to diminish the perception of the threat. and its statements to the american people tried to be as quite as possible in its response to these terrorist attacks. the division between the elites and the people, is a matter after global revolution, particularly in europe. and i think it's safe to say in the united states, because people now feel extraordinarily vulnerable and governments seem incompetent and unwilling, unable to protect lives. >> you are absolutely right.

there is a giant disjuncture between the political he athletes in the west and the people who are really afraid. what mapped after san bernardino. what happened after orlando. they said oh these dangerous guns. there is far too much access to guns. what is president obama going to recommend tomorrow? should we ban trucks to make us safer? this is insane. this is the reality. we have the elite that believe this isn't about ideology it's not about religion. it's about disenfranchised unemployed people. then we have the reality. none of these people are born in refugee camps. they are individuals doing this for the glory of allah. but the trieds ar d but the droe

are not going to use the word jihad. and when the shooter in orlando calms in and uses that word, they say we are not going to play that. lou: more video coming in from nice, and getting no easier to watch. deirdre: absolutely not. this is clearly a soft target. we'll show some of it. if you have small children in the room, this is the time to ask them to leave. if you are at all sensitive, it's a good time to not keep your eyes on the screen. 77 people now confirmed dead. so you have the death toll rising. 15 still in a critical state. at least 50 additional citizens

murdered, or rather injured. and we were talking about this, the fact -- sebastian gorka mentioning it. this was a place for families to be, people of all ages. one of the most heartbreaking photos is a body sheet with what we presume is a little girl with a doll next her on the street. this is one of the most popular sea fronts in france. around 40,000 people were around the area. the truck was full of grenades and multiple guns. absolutely tragic. for all 77 people who are dead, it doesn't make a difference to their families, but the numbers could have been higher. lou: up next, ierps on edge tonight following the attacks by

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we are seeing the latest in a wave of islamist terror attacks in europe, especially in countries up as belgium and france, the heart of europe. we have to acknowledge that. we are engaged in a global war against islamist terrorists. the islamists will hit us anywhere they possibly can. in nice it was a massacre carried out by people of immense evil and brutality. we have to be prepared to project the kind of leadership and resolve that's necessary to crush and defeat the islamist terror threat. at the moment we don't have that kind of resolve here in the united states and the white house. we don't have much of that resolved in europe either. and isis and its islamist affiliates take advantage of that situation.

lou: i was encouraged greatly when following the paris attacks when the president of france francois hollande declared war. there seems to be a sense of fear about our leaders, but not much in the way of sustained intelligent response that's effective and leads to anything like victory, and the public is left vulnerable and exposed to death. >> that's right. what you have from francois hollande. some of the right messaging but not necessarily backed up by real action. what you are seeing from european leaders in recent months and years has been basically inertia, inaction,

political correctness has dominated european policy towards the islamist threat. europe's leaders have been spectacularly weak in the face of monstrous evil. you have a president in the united states, president obama who has the same sort of european-style mindset with regard to what we are facing. i think that's leaders in europe, the current occupant of the white house is in a state of denial with regard to the global nature of the threat. the ideological nature of the threat. we are facing a monstrous ideology that spread its tentacles across europe, and europe is facing the consequences of many, many decades of extremely weak-kneed policies and open borders policy within europe that has been

dissous in terms of security. lou: it seem the elites particularly of europe appear, one certainly hope hazard it's not the case. but they decided a certain number are acceptable numbers of collateral damage in what is a war marked by indifference and ebbing interests. it is a cruel sense of government to accept people in who you know mean your citizens harm and have no response and little regard for the consequence. is that too harsh? >> i think europe is living with the legacy today of many, many decades of extreme, you know, weak immigration policies. it's also living with the consequences i think of unwillingness to across knowledge the scale of the

islamist threat within europe. and, you know, you have across europe, especially in france and belgium, cities that have become hornets nests of extremist islamists. this is an extremely dangerous scenario. lou: lyle gardner. thanks for being with us. catherine herridge in washington working her sources. she has more for us now. on the tactic. the deadly tactic used tonight. the truck that was used to plow through a crowd. killing dozens and injuring dozens. what more can you tell us? >> we are waiting to see if the terrorist group takes immediate responsibility for what's happened in nice. we reported this evening these isis-linked social media accounts are calling on their followers to celebrate the

attack in nice and use the #atnice. thatinaneditionof"inspire" magazi thatinaneditionof"inspire"magazi netheywereencouragingtheir follow thatinaneditionof"inspire"magazw erstousetrucks. theyraisedtheimplementationofthi soperationshouldbesubjecttothe sec theyraisedtheimplementationofthc urityrequirements. theideaistouseapickuptruckasamow ingmachine. nottomowgrass,buttomowdownthe ene nottomowgrass,buttomowdowntheene nottomowgrass,buttomowdowntheene mies. . >> these fit the description and

the tactic was amplified. using a semi instead of a pickup truck. thanks so much as always. lou: we'll have new video of the aftermath. you both have a

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lou: this video coming in, we want to show that to you. this is immediately after the truck has driven into people. police have fired on the vehicle. fired on the driver, killed the driver. there are reports -- eyewitness reports saying there was an accomplice who fled the scene. those are unconfirmed.

in point of fact it's very difficult to say what did or did not happen in the bedlam madness of a tragic moment. joining us, former navy seal carl higbie. former army helicopter pilot and veteran amber smith. amber, your thoughts as we look at the response to a terrorist act that had been con tell plated certainly by the people in france. >> look, you have to destroy the enemy as it stands today. right now we have isis that's held territory in iraq and syria for years, providing them a safe haven to plan, organize and execute these attacks. until we get serious and have some leadership, who is going to get rid of this politically correct practice when it comes

to terrorism around the globe, we won't be able to get rid of this threat. lou: you are saying you would like to see the united states, nato, attack raqqa, anywhere the islamic state has a has -- hasd becomes a target. >> isis is tweeting out a number of messages. we need to find those people tweeting that out. if they are in america you take them into custody. if they are in syria or iraqa you drop bombs and kill them. deirdre: 77 dead. the number of critically injured moving around quite a bit. but at least 20 and overall the number of injured at least 50. we'll say that.

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