and for seven days in a row, the market has not reacted to what's going on around the world. for seven days in a row, come 12:00 noon i've pitched my colleague charles payne and said no big sell off today. and i'm doing exactly the same thing. no big sell off, charles. it's yours. charles: i'll take it from here. thanks a lot, stuart, varney antitrump delegates. well, let's say they're about to get real quiet because in just hours donald trump will officially become the republican nominee. this is "cavuto: coast to coast" i'm your host today charles payne filling in for for neil cavuto. on a day devoted to the economy and making america work again. the stock market of course a record levels but at the same time millions of people are out of work. real estate titan and trump in new york on how republicans will make that pitch tonight. carl, thanks for joining the show. >> hi, charlie. thank you very much for inviting me. charles: i watched last night. it was riveting coverage from

end to end, but i felt it was mostly aimed at the believers already. the conference already, and i'm wondering if taint's platform of the economy will be designed in a way of getting independence, blew collar democrats, even regular democrats saying, hey, that's a platform i can live with. >> well, i was totally in rampant with melania. i think melania did a wonderful job, and i don't think she was necessarily talking to the crowd in the arena. i think she was talking to everybody in america. charles: i'm talking about some of the other speakers, carl. i'm talking about some of the other guys who spoke. but be that as it may, tonight the economic message, will it say go to the undecided voter that makes them understand, hey, this is where i should go right now? with the donald trump gop platform? >> there's only one person that's going to create jobs and that's donald trump. he's laid out his plan, he's laid out his plan on trade, which is obviously a major part of creating jobs.

and he's going to do great job at it, and i think everybody was -- that talked about that yesterday okay. is going to -- donald trump's going to hold to his pledge because as melania said, donald trump keeps his word. and he doesn't give it up. charles: no, he does not. go ahead, carl. >> he will create those jobs. i'm sorry. go ahead. charles: you know, i'm looking at a poll, for instance, and it shows we're unemployed right now favor hillary 44 to 54, those making less than 45,000 43 to 57. donald trump has favor to those making more than $50,000 a year. we know we're separated on so many different levels whether it's race, political situation, even economically. so, again, the unifying message lower taxes, you know, fair trade deals, those kinds of things, that's what we're going to hammer home tonight. >> that's exactly what i think he's going to hammer home tonight. absolutely.

those are his -- those are the big questions out there for the general public and america. they're tired to listening to all the promises that the phony promises that come out of the progressives. we witnessed that with obama. they want to go around and tout a 5% unemployment rate which everyone knows is totally fabricated. it's not even reasonable to say that because so many of our friends and relatives are out of jobs in america. i'm an employer, i have 550 employees. and i certainly know their plate. and right now they're sitting with stagnated wages unable to really see growth in our economy that would give them some opportunity to live the american dream. and that's what donald trump's going to give us. neil: carl, right now the stock market near record highs, the last jobs report came in significantly above estimates. if hillary clinton has that sort of momentum going into november, can she say, hey, you know what? this is a farce, the economy's doing a lot better than

republicans would have you believe? savings account has been, you know, charles, before i can even consider what hillary clinton might be able to do, i have to get over a woman who doesn't have the trust of the american people. a woman who has schemed and lied throughout her -- and played games throughout her public service, and i am certainty that the american people are going to look at that first. okay? and they're going to look at her performance in office the lack of performance because she really can't tout any history of accomplishing anything, especially with reference to our economy. but also generally. she's just not the person for america. and i think we -- i think we began to see that last night and i mean just listening to rudy giuliani, to sheriff clark, i think most americans could grab onto what they heard last night. neil: well, you know, ultimately once you have a safe nation, you can start building prosperity on top of

that. so i understand the format, and i look forward to tonight. carl, thanks a lot. i really appreciate you taking out the time. >> thank you, charles. neil: all right. see you soon. hey, donald trump's nomination process will begin in just hours but republicans looking to rewrite the rules causing a huge ruckus on the floor. you know, the question is is there a different motivate at play? take a listen. one of the guys who's trying to force a rule change. >> fighting the establishment to get grass roots rules and, again, consolidate power, take power away from the grassroots, and they break their own rules. we went to this four years ago. donald trump wasn't here four years ago. the rnc and went to crush their own rules to crush the grassroots, and they did it again today. we're not about unbinding. our effort was a sincere effort to rewrite the rules and transparency and accountability, get rid of lawyers on the rnc, fix some

of the problems donald trump himself identified in the nomination like these rigged behind closed doors state selection committees that pick delegates that are here in cleveland today. he's absolutely right about that. charles: so maybe it's not about this election, but maybe the next election cruz backers hoping that the texas senator uses this convention to position himself as the 2020 front-runner the same way ronald reagan was able to use that 1976 convention to catapult himself to the presidency in 1980. political gurus carrie and carl. first to you, carl, is it much at this late stage of the game at stopping donald trump or positioning ted cruz? >> i think you're right. it's about the future rather than past. unlike 1976 when the reagan forces mounted a battle called rule 16c, they tried to force forward at the 1976 convention

to name his running mate before they balloted for the presidential nominee, hoping that he would make a mistake. he previously chosen nelson rockefeller to be his vice president when he succeeded richard nixon in the oval office. so they were hoping he would make the same mistake. these rules have to do with 2020 by in large and the most important was to penalize states that had open primaries close states. that is primaries that only republicans could vote in. and they were unlikely to win this award because, for example, texas a very conservative state, we don't have partisan registration in texas. you're a part member based on what primary you vote in, and you get to choose. so texas would have been penalized in states that had closed primaries would have been rewarded. that's why i don't think he saw this as a pure ted cruz effort. but so much asan effort to build resentment among cruz supporters so they would stick together, share together, have

a shared memory that they could keep them together towards 2010. charles: but, carl, even donald somehow they think donald trump won't win in november. in other words, he would be running for reelection, and gopwouldn't set yourself up president. >> well, it has happened before on both party sides. most recently on the democratic side in 1980 in a serious fashion with ted kennedy challenged jimmy carter. but you're right they're probably betting on trump losing. but the whole motivation i think was how do we keep our people together? maybe we win some of these things. highly unlikely. when you have a conservative delegation like texas, the second largest in the country, they would be penalize by this, you're unlikely to get a lot of people saying, oh, yeah, we're going to penalize ourselves. california, biggest delegation of the convention, theirs is an open primary state, they too would be penalized. you're unlikely to be able to get the votes for this on the floor. so this is more about what do

we to create resentment toward 2020? keep ourselves together. you've seen this time and time again where in one convention a group of people have united around some kind of cause in order to keep themselves together for the future. charles: yeah, but larry, it looks like in this particular case they're united against one particular person and that's donald trump. and i've got to tell you. an election that seems razor thin with the margin -- with the polls, and where so many people are still undecided, these guys are coming across as bratty, whiney, and schoolkids. so why are they sabotaging their own party to this degree? >> well, first of all, some of them just based on principle are strongly opposed to donald trump. they will never be for donald trump. they're not going to vote for donald trump. i don't know who they're going to vote for, but it ain't going to be donald trump. and then you also mix into that some intense ambitions on the part of some people who very much want to run for president in 2020.

whether it's ted cruz or marco rubio or tom cotton or just go right down the list. so naturally they're driven by those ambitions. not electing donald trump in noveer. charles: i get that, larry, but by the same token if you're a registered republican, someone in a hierarchy, and you want to represent the party, even if you were never trump, wouldn't it be smart to stay home and not show up? i mean this sort of rabble-rousing if you will, it doesn't look good in the mainstream media and bold on the other side. >> well, it's certainly going to hurt some of them in the future if they run with trump supporters. the ones i know seem to have very long memories. you know? the republican symbol is an elephant and their cases i would say it's a very big elephant. they have a big brain, they seem to remember things well. charles: well, donald trump in november, just the imagery of it? >> yes. well, the imagery of

it could be damaging for trump all the way to november. on the other hand it's also true that these basic fundamentals drive presidential elections. and it's amazing what a candidate can overcome if he has the wind at his back and the wind is blowing at an appropriate speed. charles: all right. guys, thank you, both, very, very much. i've got breaking news i've got to share with the audience right now. the justice deportment reportedly said to sue to block anthem sigma and humma deals. all the big deals that were going to put together -- four of the largest health care providers are going to be all blocked up. this decision of course coming by next week. we're going to keep you updated on this because those will be yet another series of take over acquisitions that the obama administration have blocked, which a lot of people are questioning because in many cases, you know, staples, for instance, getting together with office depot, two struggling companies that need to hang on by a thread until

they can figure out a way to stay alive in the internet era. you wonder why they continue to block all of these deals. meanwhile netflix getting slammed today, this after the streaming site saw a sharp decline in subscribers. deirdre bolton here on the big drop. 13%. >> 13%, charles, they're not adding as much users as they would like to domestically or internationally. that's the headline, that's the second quarter. but what's worse and really why you're seeing the stock drop the most in two years is because essentially saying and it's going to be like that in the next quarter as well. so this is a clear deployment. a lot of trouble with national users english some places in the world you have people who speak and understand english than others. so, for example, in poland and turkey where you can say all right. english level is okay. they are not just snapping up these netflix hits. and netflix is saying we're going to work on it. we're going to do more

dubbing, we're going to make an attempt. also china is killing them; right? because china has blocked all disney content and china has also blocked anything that netflix does in association with apple. so that's a pretty big gross market to miss out on. and also netflix is saying even domestically here in the u.s. they're getting more cancellations than they thought they would. a part of the statement was it's not because of hulu and it's not because of amazon, but i also think if i were running a business, may i alsoly wouldn't give a shout out to my competitors, so we don't know if that's true or not. charles: the reed hasting guy runs a business in a unique way. what about the pricing? it felt to me they've had a series of price increases. they did a price increase, looked around and got away with it. and now it has caught up to them. even though it may look like a little, i think that may have hurt them. >> and honestly, charles, the math is still out.

i don't know what bundle you have, but i think a lot of consumers are beginning to add up. okay. if i have netflix, if i'm paying for hbo's product, and i still have a cable subscription, and then sometimes they add it all together and they think you know what? maybe i'll just keep cable, there's enough things to watch. there is a kind of penny pinching mentality that i think a lot of consumers to your point once it gets higher and, listen, netflix is responsible. they send you e-mails. we want to continue to send you these great quality and a lot of people are saying what? my cable bill is this, i'm paying for these two or three other things, maybe amazon, i don't need to pay for all of this and let me see how i do without netflix. charles: although netflix has had growing pains before in the past. but today not a day for them. >> unless you want to buy super cheap. today is your day. charles: i have an iffy trigger finger. coming up general russell and myself we discuss baton rouge assault on cops.

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. >> ladies and gentlemen, i would like to make something very clear. blue lives matter in america. [cheers and applause] charles: very powerful moment from sheriff david clark last night. of course the police ambush in baton rouge, the backdrop of the conversation of race all

that taking part, and i want you to take a look at this. the baton rouge killer, gavin long tweeting this on july 10th quote, yes, the government is a hate group to hate black people. he attributes this quote to my next guest activist jay morrison. jay, welcome to the show. >> thank you for having me. charles: jay, how do you feel of your tweet being associated with someone who gunned down all of those police officers? >> well, definitely confusing -- a confusing point at that point. didn't even realize, you know, and i probably did say it. i can't remember when i said it, that particular quote. but, you know, there's plenty of tweets that he tweeted, plenty of information out there online. it is what it is. charles: well, when you say it is what it is, do you feel -- not accountability for their deaths. but when you start saying that the government is a hate group, and they hate black people, do you honestly believe the u.s. government, this current u.s. government hates black people? >> well, the current u.s.

government system is of the same system, the same structure that it has always been, and it's -- we can call it miss like. we can call it but regardless there's a difference in how they treat black people or africans in america. charles: can you give me a couple of examples? >> sure. and i'm glad you asked that. i'm going to slam dunk it. your audience is probably going crazy right now. this guy says the government hates black people. i want to everyone look up the war on drugs, massive incarceration, the fbi director james comey himself and the new york head of police also said the origin of policing came from slave catching. we also look up black codes and tactics, the bombing in oklahoma, all done by the u.s. government toward afternoon an people in america. charles: so you would say arresting people and keeping law and order is antiblack?

or by saying that, are you saying that black people inherently are the ones committing the crimes? >> no. what i'm saying is that having a system, a structure in place; right? from the post of freedom or enslavement of black people in where a system was created called the leasing system by our government in where the same year that slaves were free, they created a law. that made it illegal for blacks to be homeless and locked blacks up. charles: jay, here's the thing. i hear what you're talking about with respect to america's history. >> right. charles: but -- >> the same tactics are happening today. charles: i see homeless people all over the place, but i still don't see where you're justifying your current anger toward america or the american government. i can see you being upset about what may have happened in the past. but you cannot say -- >> nothing has changed. charles: of course it has changed. the fact that you're in this studio right now talking the way you are is the best proof in the world that it has changed. >> the fact that the 13th

amendment still says slavery was abolished except you commit a crime says this things are still the same. and when you have inmates working a prison, a majority of whom who are afternoonan afternoon africans in america. charles: why are the majority of people in prison african dissent? >> because the majority of people were never repaired after the government red lined them, after the government gave them no restitution for the holocaust of the people. so if you don't repair people and you put them in ghettos and educated poor. charles: you know, what's interesting when we've had this conversation, you know, sometimes i drive home on the west side highway. it's a little cluttered, so i'll take the slough route and drive through some of my old neighborhoods that i lived in harlem, and i see them now and they're becoming. they're the same neighborhoods, same neighborhoods, but less graffiti, what makes a ghetto, ghetto? not the buildings and the

neighborhood; right? so it's the way they treat the buildings. who can you blame that other than the person in the mirror? >> there are two accountabilities. the because of the trauma and the suffer, but if you take someone who was kidnapped; right? or a woman or man who was molested and molested for several years. and then they're pushed out of the house that they're molested in and then they go on the streets and they're. charles: that's a stretch. >> was there or was there not. if there's never trauma for this treatment; right? i'm talking about the human rights. charles: we're talking about the individual. not the history. i've got to tell you something -- >> they come together. they come together. if there wasn't a need for repair of people, then the japanese americans wouldn't have been repaired or had restitution after their two internment camps in america. or the jewish. charles: are you saying all it would take in your mind then is some sort of restitution check -- >> no. i didn't say check. charles: you're saying some

restitution. >> repair. repair aid. restoration. charles: let me tell you something. there are black people right now who were never slaves. no white people in america at this point who were slaves. >> that's correct. charles: the overwhelming majority. >> are there residual effects for that? charles: not for the average person. >> how is it black people get into the ghettos? if the government does not red line black people. red lines on the map, google it if you don't know, king. the government put black people into ghettos through red lining. that created it. charles: jay, jay, ultimately we are at a point right now. >> did the government did not create quid pro quo? a government program that broke up civil rights assassinated our people. charles: jay holding up, we're coming up to what they call a hard break. >> that's fine. charles: we'll finish this discussion and i'll try to have a word in too. we'll have more right after this

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charles: we are talking the filler of the police officers in baton rouge. he did reach out to you because he felt you were like-minded on this stuff, not as far as murdering anyone but the idea that black people are victims in this country and we have a black president and a lot of black people who have been in position for eight years. you think barack obama hates black people? >> i don't think all governors hate black people.

you can put good people in a bad system where the company cultures screwed up and it will play out in the market. the market is african people in america proven by j elliott, you can if the roomful of european americans would you trade places with treatment of african-americans and one would say yes and they would say sure so ask your white friends at home would you trade places with black people in america, we all know it is unfair. charles: i will say a lot of people will turn around and say the worst part about the treatment of black people is how black people treat people in america. we are laying out the factual issues and rank them in terms of the most critical in terms of making black lives miserable in

america. i would put the way black people treat black people for accountability. i call black women queens to elevate, i have been doing it for a year. the king or queen you are referring to, we degrade ourselves, the point -- charles: how do we do that? black people -- >> perpetrator take acceptance, you want the victim to take acceptance but when does the gunmen who created it debited charles: not the government. i am talking about young brothers who kill each other. >> you are talking about -- i am okay with self accountability. how to fix that is through the prepare curriculum. we are repairing ourselves, unifying ourselves. i have a solution for us. self pride, understanding -- before we are americans we are african first, african-american. when we realize we are one people, the source of african culture and tribes and countries that were brought here and

captured here and left this crap to deal with ourselves then we will unite and fix our own problems but don't forget the perpetrator who caused this misery. charles: we are americans first and foremost. i am an american. i am of african descent and proud of that but more proud of being an american. >> your grandparents were americans? charles: there will be people sworn in tomorrow. >> colonize americans. charles: they get to be part of the great american dream. >> the majority of their people are in misery. i get it. you are doing well. 10% of us do well but we are not the rest of us. left in the ghettos and poverty and low education, to deal with this. don't forget your people. charles: by saying -- >> misery for your people. charles: the misery i have seen in my own life most of it against black people are at the

hands of other -- the stabbings i have seen. >> who put them in that condition? who broke it down that way? charles: that is what i have seen. who dehumanized them that way? where did they get that conditioning? charles: it is not going to wash. before i let you go you condemn what happened in baton rouge? the killing of those police officers? of those police officers? >> i condemn killing of all human beings. no human being should have their life be taken. absolutely. charles: got to leave it there. hopefully we will have this conversation in the near future and get to the root of the problem. in a bit, trump bakker, pastor mark burns will have reaction on this and a lot more. we will be right back. you loved brad. and then you totaled him. you two had been through everything together.

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charles: we are getting feedback from my interview with activist jay morrison but there is another healthy debate on gun control. take a listen. >> i understand you have a position on guns and gun lobbyists treat you well. charles: nothing to do with the gun lobby paying anyone but the fact that you refuse to blame the person pulling the trigger and that is an insult to

everyone. you have done a great service for this country, you are blaming the law instead of the person who is backdrop of being elevated crime, war on police, one side saying it is about guns and the other saying it is about the individual. give us your take and how it will be resolved. >> first of all i started my 55 year experience walking the black beat in washington dc, never brought the race card out.

and it was never brought out these days and here we are, even the president setting a bad tempo and we have a war on cops and recently 50-year-old white guy shot a couple times, my deputy, before he received the ticket, after that, hispanic semi automatic weapon in substation where the deputy was going and. when i say war on cops it is not just zeroing in on ethnic background but it is all over there. i said that and look what we have, talking about race and everything else which is important to talk about. i have my opinions on this. i don't like to badmouth the president. he set the tempo in cambridge, a white cop arrested a black

professor, stuck his nose in a local law enforcement issue and this continues on and on. the president sets the tempo in this bureaucratic government and the people. i have to talk about the president also and let's see what happens in the future when donald trump becomes the president after throwing that in. charles: you are referring to the time president obama said the cops acted stupidly and that didn't work out too well. the president, the progressive left-wing ideology that seems to grow and grow and this ideology is the people themselves are not responsible for their own actions. i just issued an activist, jay morrison just moments ago,

listen to a piece of our conversation. all it would take is restitution from the government? some sort of restitution? >> restoration. charles: nobody in america were slaves, no white people in america wherever slave owners. >> are there not residual effects of that? charles: not to the average person. >> how did black people get to the ghettos? charles: he reflects a lot of anger within the black community and it creates a backdrop, easy to play the victim card and this is why leadership is so important. i pray president obama will take a different tactic once he got in the white house. he didn't. we are fighting fight we didn't fight 20, 30, 40 years ago so

how do we come out of this, get levelheaded people who have experience on both sides and understand both sides, donald trump or something else will happen where we have a united epiphany. >> 1950 korean war era. i love the veterans, i love the people, how they support our veterans and military. i wish they would support the cops the same way, cops are heroes, frontline fighters and let the people backup our cops and you will see a change in this country, i guarantee you. as far as the racial component, 20 police departments the department of justice is trying to take over including mine and they always stick their nose and right away when you see video

camera fired at police chief, everybody gets involved, the department of justice over something, a video camera. very tough for cops to do the job. charles: we need to unite around the police, thank you very much, appreciate it. breaking news, crane falling at the tappan zee bridge, they are building a new bridge, you can see right there is in serious trouble. we will have an update on that and more right after this.

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weird two have been injured giving big speeches tonight. let's go to charlie gasparino on his busy afternoon. you are in touch with these trump insiders. what are you hearing about the way this is gone so far? >> it has been largely good except for the controversy whether it is plagiarized from michelle obama's. milania trump did not wear the perfect dress last night. charles: that was not cool. she is not a professional speaker. >> you are misunderstanding what i am saying. i am telling you there are only so many ways to say my dad is a

great guy. this was not a speech you could crip from somebody the way i heard it. that is my take. i have been doing this stuff a long time. plagiarism is a specific thing to be throwing that around. it was a speech, she said her husband is a nice guy, only three or four ways to say that but that is one issue. the other issue that is interesting, the trump campaign has been going off on john kasich for a long time. what stoked the entire controversy, trump advisers, people like paul manafort thought a last meeting with john kasich on sunday with the governor himself to make -- mend some fences and create unity with the sitting governor of the state where they are having their convention and john kasich rebuffed him.

people inside the trump campaign said that is why you heard paul manafort oil over and go after john kasich, saying he is a sore loser, he was rebuffed at the last minute and they feel burned. they tried -- charles: the unity convention, we saw the delegation get up and leave and skirmishes on the floor yesterday. john kasich not being there. i understand why donald trump is upset but how does he square that with the unifying party? >> that is a great point. there are ways of handling these things. i don't think manafort had to bring out on tv 1000 times that he hates john kasich or john kasich is a sore loser. that is the problem.

i thought milania trump's speech was good. it wasn't the gettysburg address. there are so many way to say my husband is a great guy. she was poised and that matters most. the thing about the trump campaign, do they have the infrastructure to handle this? if the speech was from michelle obama, why didn't the campaign know that and put a stop to that? why didn't they know the start of israel flap we had -- on the website. they have an infrastructure problem. before these questions are being asked, you don't have to fight every fight, this is another one they should have ignored because it would have gone away. we got to go. >> it is the infrastructure, they don't have the infrastructure. charles: tonight i want to let the audience know for the gop it is about making america more again. we are all over it starting at 6:00 pm. we have more for you after this.

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charles: george hw bush, george w. bush, senator john mccain, mitt romney skipping the convention, bob dole the arm and a former gop nominee at the convention. he was nominated in 1996, the last two generations skipping out on donald trump and the gop. what does it mean for future generations? charlie kirk is the only speaker at the convention. you spent a lot of time trying to convince the hardest people out there, millennials the virtue of being republicans. can you convince republicans about the virtues of being a republican? >> what does republican even mean anymore? i look at the younger generation and we lost an opportunity at

the convention, previous presidents coalesce around donald trump. we have a binary choice between hillary clinton and donald trump and whether they agree on every issue, the supreme court in the balance, the regulatory burden being put on small businesses in the country and basic freedoms at stake. the former president wanted a seat at the table, and influencing them. this notion the republican party should be looking backwards. i would like to see senator rubio and young superstars represented at the convention and did not show up. charles: we talked about transparency, grassroots and other things, wedded to a philosophy, to be committed to a

political party. maybe republicans may have to form two parties because the party has changed not long ago. >> i hope not. donald trump took over the republican national convention. at the republican debate, and donald trump would be the nominee, this is a different unconventional convention. we believe in freedom and less government and constitutional liberty, democrats believe in none of that and want to grow government and take freedoms and liberties away, and what does the republican party stand for? if donald trump doesn't win there will be a lot of soul-searching to continue. charles: this is a make or break it year, at the crossroads, a lot of people looking for answers not just here, thanks for everything you do. a crane collapsing on the tappan

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...and everything autosyncs. those sales prove my sustainable designs are better for the environment and my bottom line. that's how i own it. >> for those of you who didn't think this, in hours donald trump will be the republican nominee and right now the republican party is fine and turning, rather, its attention to the economy. that's what the pinch is going to be to win the white house. this is coast to coast, i'm in for neil. and the nominee, day and night, focusing on the economy and getting america to work again. and a party once gung-ho will trade deal will warm up to donald trump's backlash. and senator john barrasso, senator, thanks for joining us. >> great to be with you. charles: great to be with you as well.

i'm looking how the platform has evolved or changed and i'm wondering how some of the senators who have been around for a while, whether something like trade or even yesterday, bringing back glass-steagall, how does that -- how does that work? is the party just been sort of educated by donald trump on some of the things they were doing wrong before with respect to the economy? >> well, the focus of this whole platform, which is a conservative platform, is jobs, it's the economy, and it's national security and you know, part of national security is not just the border, it's energy and economic security. when you talk about the economy and eliminating the tepid economy we've had under barack obama, it focuses on getting rid of a lot of the regulations we've been dealing with and certainly energy production is a big part of it. energy, we have an arsenal of energy. we need to use it as an economic power, as well as in terms of international

activity, as a military power. you can get a lot more done with a barrel of oil than you can with a barrel of a gun. so, the platform is focused on red, white and blue american energy and exporting liquefied natural gas is a big part of that as well. so, this whole platform is focused on getting people back to work. that's what the american people are concerned about. we know for a country, economically, we cannot afford another four years like the last eight years and hillary clinton, you look at that democrat platform, that hillary clinton would be another four years of barack obama. charles: another four years of war on business, war on success, war on coal, war on fossil fuels. i know i've watched it and i've lived through it and we've all lived through it. the low hanging fruit is energy exports. we expert a lot of gasoline and now get more of the liquid natural gas around the world and evened crude oil. it would be amazing.

how would you articulate this and donald trump reiterate this on thursday, for people who are unemployed, with respect to people who are making less than 50,000, these are people who tell pollsters, they're not sure about the republicans and kind of trust hillary more on the economy. >> and, of course, interestingly enough, hillary wants to repeal the right to work law in america. she wants to have more bureaucrats in charge and this focus that the democrats have on income redistribution versus economic growth, it's almost irrational. the success of america has been economic growth and ways to do that. for those people you made mention of, their best opportunity is, i believe, if you look at the republican platform and focus on jobs and focus on the economy, focus on getting america back to, would. people have been struggle and sacrificing and struggling under the obama economy and hillary's economy which is

basically a war on energy, a war on american workers, a war on jobs. it's more on redistribution than it is on growing the economy. charles: senator barrasso, you guys have gotten off to a great start. i look forward to tonight and appreciate your time right now. >> thanks, charles, always great to be with you. charles: thanks a lot. governor chris christie, right, ben carson, speaker paul ryan, a pretty good lineup for tonight, but the media focus right now, still on this speech from last night. >> work hard for what you want in life. >> you work hard for what you want in life. >> your word is your bond and you do what you say. >> your board is your bond, that you do what you say you're going to do. >> the only limit to your achievement is the strength of your dreams. >> the only limit to the height of your achievement is the reach of your dreams. charles: now, one of tonight's headliners at the rnc is coming out and defending melania trump.

>> i thought the speech was exceptional. i know that allows the media trying to make a big deal out of the similarities with melania and michelle obama in the past. because the speeches were so big and wanted to distract you. we should be celebrating the fact that a democrat and republican have similar values and resonate with america. charles: and the critics are overdoing this thing. ashley, what do you make of it? it's amazing that, you know, you had a great first day with some amazing emotional heart felt speeches, including melania's, this is the headline that everyone woke up to today. >> it certainly is, and i think it's not good news for the trump campaign. they've been trying to show a unifying message here at the convention and trying to pull in the never-trumpers such as myself and at this point with something like that happening, it just consistently shows that the trump campaign is not ready for prime time.

and in some case like this, you know, coming out and melania saying herself that she wrote the speech and then all of a sudden finding out two paragraphs why pretty much lifted from michelle obama's speech. carelessness on behalf of the campaign and whoever it was should be fired for it and even trump supporters acknowledged that. so, it will be interesting to see what trump does in the coming days, but a lot of trump supporters said it was a great speech and she did a great job and at the same time. charles: it was a great speech. >> at the same time half of it seems to be kind of coming from michelle obama. so, i don't think it's a good look for the campaign right now as they're trying to show this unified message and ready to go up against hillary clinton. charles: to your point, apparently reince priebus would fire the speech writer for melania's remark and again, it shows they're not all on the same page. i don't think he should have been in commented with it and they had the same unifying message instead of

contradictions, but here is the thing, you know, you hear a lot of people saying, there are only so many things you can say about your husband and we know that these speeches are always going to sound similar. they'll debate whether it was lifted word for word for plagiarism, i think the mistake might have been just the sort of-- the trump campaign understanding that the mainstream media does not like them and helping them fan the flames of this because every time they get into a tussle with the mainstream media, it breathes life in this kind of stuff. so we don't-- the rest of the people who didn't watch last night didn't see the elegance and poise and the heart feltness of melania toward her husband. they didn't hear latrelle, you know, talk about the battles of our vets and seals and the benghazi mother going after hillary for lying to her and lying to the american public and all of that is swept away. >> she did say, melania trump did say herself this campaign

is about to take some unexpected turns and that a trump campaign is full of drama and excitement so i think they will continue to fan flames however they see fit because as long as they continue to let trump be trump, these are the types of mistakes we'll see from the trump campaign, you can't afford those when you're going up against hillary clinton. honestly at this point, america deserve better than this. both candidates seem to be unprepared and grave errors when it comes for judgment. charles: although you're standing in cleveland and in just a few hours. >> i am. charles: in a few hours, donald trump will be the official nominee because he did it his way. ashley, we've got to leave it there, thank you very much. >> thank you. charles: well, protesters are relatively quiet, and were the fears of protests overstated and overblown? to jeff flock.

are they saving their powder for thursday? so far they've been a dud. >> don't get ahead of ourselves. i come to you from a veritable political disneyland here. we've got members of congress, delegates, reporters, all trotting this path here, this is the path down to the convention. and, yes, protests have been relatively light. we had today the revolutionary communist party come out in front of the convention. a lot of trump supporters as well. no conflicts. i think the police have done a great job of kind of keeping them apart in some way, people free to put up their "i love capitalism" sign, revolutionary party. what can you say. two different protesters, interesting thoughts. one side the republicans are fighting themselves inside and you've got melania trump using michelle obama's speech and we're going to let the

republicans screw up their convention themselves don't need our help. and one said you don't want to get arrested on a tuesday when you've got a big protest for thursday. i would say stay tuned. charles: all right. jeff flock. again, as far as the speech of melania, the donald trump campaign saying these were her words and any sort of similarities were a coincidence. we'll leave that there and come back out to you later. donald trump's running mate, by the way, speaking in cleveland right now at a conservative lunch. we're monitoring that as well and a lot of people wanting to see mike pence out on the road. protests outside the rnc largely peaceful. mostly, but city councilman says that his constituents are worried. and after what we saw, zack, around the country, whether it was donald trump's west coast swing and the real ugly attacks not only on peaceful people trying to get inside the arena

to hear the candidate, but more recently, the ambushing and killing of police officers, i suspect you guys are on edge. how do you feel so far? how is it going? >> so far we're very confident, but we've got two more days to go. charles: we've heard about the great precautions and we've seen imagery and some of it looks like a military patrol. small boats in the water with machine gun turrets on them. it feels like sitting on heightened alert, we're looking now as images of the bicycle police officers as well. what are you concerned about? what's your major concern, is that even despite all of the security, that it won't be enough? >> well, i think our major concern is that the things that we are not prepared for. we've done a fantastic job of being prepared for those things that you see in all of these type big events, but the things that we don't know of, you know, that terrorist that has

some new innovative idea for what they may or may not do. the things that we are prepared for, we're ready for, what we do have to be concerned about those things that we may not be prepared for. charles: thank you very much. stay safe. we're watching, thank you very much. let's go to governor pence now, he's talking indiana's economy and donald trump talked about it when he introduced him to the world, let's listen in. >> trust me when i say this, when we come together as a party, and elect strong, conservative majorities in the house and the senate and elect this good man as the 45th president of the united states, i know in my heart of hearts, we will make america great again. [applause] >> at home and abroad. [applause] he's a builder. he's a fighter. he's a father and he's--

having time with this good man, i know that donald trump will be a great president of the united states of america because his heart is with the heart of the american people. [applaus [applause] >> i honestly believe, i honestly believe in the collective wisdom of the american people, the capacity of the people of our nation to know who we need, who the right person is at the right time for america. it happened in 1980, ronald reagan was chosen, that we had a man like our nominee this year, who although he had achieved great heights in his own career never lost touch with everyday americans. to be around our nominee, as i had the privilege to be not on the campaign trail, but out

among his associates, people that he's employed for years and among his family, i had a sense of this man, a sense of his heart. i have a sense that his hands-on style of leadership, and for all the world he reminds me of ronald reagan. ronald reagan achieved great things in his life and his career, a movie star, a celebrity, a governor of the great state of california, but he never lost the common touch, did he? one of our most cherished speeches of ronald reagan was his farewell address in the oval office, in fact, he talked about being in a motorcade and i can report to you today here at the acu, i came over on my first trip in a motorcade today. [laughte [laughter] >> i actually got out of the car in the alley and i saw all

of these cars and i turned to the security official and i said, are they all with us? welcome to our world, dear. i'll never forget those words and i'll paraphrase them if you forgive me. in the oval office when ronald reagan talked about speeding by and seeing-- >> fox business alert, netflix taking a huge hit dropping subscriber growth, down 20% this year and the government set to block two health care mergers. we have a market watcher who is very worried. and jay morrison, reaction on that coming up on that as well. >> the misery i've seen in my own life, most of the-- the murders. >> what others. >> the stabbing. >> who put them in the condition. >> the harm i've seen. >> who put them in-- [hip hop beat]

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of the rio olympic games. >> lock her up. >> that's right. >> yeah, that's right, lock her up! i'm going to tell you what, it's unbelievable, unbelievab unbelievable. >> the republican delegation, not satisfied with hillary clinton just getting a pass over her e-mail saga. congressman mark meadows has been pushing for more answers. congressman, will the delegates ultimately get their way and maybe see charges against hillary clinton one day? >> well, i certainly hope so, it's not just the delegates, it's the american people who know that one story was told to congress, one story was told to them, and there needs to be a day of reckoning. so as we see this, it's time that hillary clinton comes

clean, we know that indeed she gave false testimony to congress based on what she told the fbi. and so, it's just a matter of making sure we look into it in full detail, which we plan to do. charles: although, it's unrealistic to expect hillary clinton falling on her sword and just laying it all out there for the american public anytime soon. maybe if she wins and somewhere there's a big fat book signing, but you know, i understand where you're coming from. and here is the thing, i think she's paying a heavy price politically, the polls have gone against her and typically on the topic, where independents and democrats feel she got away with murder. >> and as they should, not only should the polls reflect it, but i think american people, they know that if someone's going to tell them a falsehood when it benefits them, what about other times? you know, when there's issues of national security or other policy issues, and what we see from hillary is that she's

willing to say almost anything to get elected and certainly when we look at this e-mail scandal, we now know enough of the truth to know there were falsehoods that were shared. charles: where do we go from here and how does the message resonate? last night was about law and order. i thought the entire platform was great. my only probably misgiving were, i don't know that the party is selling it enough to nonbelievers. in other words, those folks who are apolitical and don't pay a lot of attention to the political process or don't necessarily already believe. so, tonight's the economy. can we see more, a bigger, broader explanation how everyone from the unemployed to the disappearing middle class benefits from a republican in the white house? >> the second shift workers, working in the factories, many of whom have to worry whether there's a job tomorrow or not,

will hear not only a donald trump message, but a conservative message that will talk about job security and how we can again make america great, but not only just make it great, but make it a prosperous nation where we don't have to worry about unemployment lines and food stamps. what i do believe is, and you talk about resonating, really, when it comes down to what hillary clinton has done, all she's done is had a number of frequent flyer miles when it comes to foreign policy. we're seeing that lived out before our eyes in terms of national security and so that's a sad day for americans. >> that's a sad day almost every day of the news cycle and a lot of it has been damning for the former secretary of state. representative meadows, we're going to be watching tonight. >> thank you very much. good to be with you. charles: the fallout from my interview with activist jay morrison. trump supporter is here and he's next. ♪

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>> more fallout from the deadly police attacks in baton rouge. killer gavin long tweet, the government is a hate group and hate black people and he attributes a quote to jay morrison who told me earlier in the show, it was not his tweet, but we did discuss race relations. >> what makes a ghetto a ghetto not the buildings or neighborhood. >> right. charles: the way the people treat the buildings and neighborhood as a ghetto. who can you blame that on other than the person in the mirror. >> there's self-accountability for black americans, because of the trauma they suffered. charles: did the government-- >> government red line, google if you don't know. the government put the people into the ghetto due to red lining. charles: with me pastor burns, i'm not sure if you saw the entire interview i had with activist morrison, but it was

relatively lively and i think his frustrations and his anger represent a large chunk of young black people in america. what do you say to them about the circumstances and how to fix it? >> well, you know, absolutely. there's a massive frustration amongst black americans in this country. i can agree that there's been a certain level of social injustices that have taken place within the african-american community, but i also understand that there's a way to fix it and i believe following the example of dr. martin luther king and mahatma gandhi, bringing peaceful demonstration, bringing awareness. dr. king did something so magnificent when he was able to make the civil rights issue not just a black issue, but an american issue, which allowed blacks and whites, young and

old, to all come together and march and to bring-- it wasn't just black people in the civil rights movement that was arrested, it was whites that was arrested. and we understand that there were two whites that was even killed because of their stance for-- that launched a fbi investigation so i believe right now there's so much anger and resentment and bitterness within the african-american community that we really got to first get past our anger towards the government. the government is not our enemy, okay? the united states of america is not the enemy, that's absolutely the wrong approach for us to even begin. that would solve nothing, it only keeps us more divided. abraham lincoln and the word of god says a house divided cannot stand. so it's so important right now, more than ever, that, yes, there are some social injustices that we have to address as americans not black america, not white america, not

hispanic america, but as americans here in this country. charles: well, pastor byrnes, you've been a donald trump supporter from the very beginning. what is it about donald trump that resonates so much within side of you and you believe he is the answer for all americans, no matter what color, persuasion, whatever, that he's the one who will actually take us the next step forward? >> well, you know, donald trump is standing on principles and platforms that is suggesting issues that are dealing not with one particular race, but with the human race. so, the democrats have done a really good job of keeping us divided and keeping us boxed in and focused on issues that are just pertaining to our communities or our people, listen, my people is god's people. my people is everyone. donald trump is standing on two maine principle that resonates with my heart. number one poverty knows no

color, poverty does not care whether you're black, white, whether you're hispanic, whether you're young, old, gay, straight. poverty does not care where you come from. poverty will come at you like a swift wind and can destroy your marriage, your family, your home, everything about it. number two, isis, terror, does not care what color you are. isis does not care whether you're black, whether you're white. they don't care at all. they want to destroy our way of life here in the western world. so, donald trump says i am going to deal with issues not pandering after one race, but the human race, security and jobs so we can come together and be united and so we can all prosper. we're so focused on the attitude that describe us, but in reality it separates us. so now i'm the black pastor that supports donald trump. i am the african-american pastor that supports donald trump.

i should be just an american, a black man or a man just supporting a candidate, not the white donald trump, but just a man that is standing for principles that i believe in. charles: or you could be the pastor with the great tie that supports donald trump. [laughter] the red, white and blue of america, that's what it's about. charles: it is. >> the red, white and blue of america. charles: it is, and pastor burns, i love having you on. i feel like i went to church today. i won't skip sunday, but i feel like if i do, i've got an excuse, thank you very much. see you again soon. tonight, the focus on the convention is the economy and fox business will be all over it. while the other business networks run reruns, i guess, we're going to be at the rnc, talking to business leaders who know how to run and fix this economy. a preview after this.

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>> we have no jobs, our poverty is growing, our debt is growing, income's going down. and our president has no clue what to do. >> that woman that, that single woman that's raising a family on one income, her electric rates are going out of sight. >> there's been a tsunami, a tsunami of new regulations brought on by this administration. look at the death by a thousand cuts. charles: big business leaders

talking at the rnc tonight. and republicans will make their pitch to give businesses a boost. a small business owner, on what we should expect to hear. i want to point out. you're the chairman of the latino coalition and headed into the convention, your coalition backed 100% donald trump for president and i think parts of that rationale was he is focused on an economy that will lift everybody. >> and we are know the endorsing anyone, we participate in the republican and democratic convention because it's critical to communicate what both candidates are saying to our community. charles: hector, what is it you want to hear from both sides with respect to the hispanic

community and why is that message different, economically, why wouldn't the same tide lift all boats, so to speak? >> i don't disagree with you, charles and we talked about this before. the fastest growing segment of the small business in the united states is hispanic business. those are 4 million companies that generate almost $700 billion in revenues every year and as you've said many times before, this environment that we're all suffering through, the regulation, the taxation, the high health care costs, that is not stimulating the kind of growth and jobs we need in our economy so we'd like both candidates to get more specific and hopefully tonight we are going to start hearing that. doesn't is about the economy and about creating opportunity. donald trump's been a successful businessman. i hope he'll share or the speakers will share some of their insight and strategy how we're going to get this economy moving again. charles: hector, look forward to talking to you again after you hear the convention. >> thank you, charles. charles: i want to go to sound bites from our competitors, talking to business leaders

from the convention floor. take a listen. >> you know, you could whittle to that though? that's whittling kind of music, well, there's none, obviously. fox business, we were live last night while the other business networks were running reruns of something. guess what? we're going to be back tonight and every night, fox business on top of an election that has everything to do with the economy and your money. cleveland looking forward to this convention, but they're getting protesters along with it. and blake burman with the ruckus, blake. >> rye, we're on east fourth street, you take a walk with me it looks like fifth avenue in midtown manhattan. the businesses tell me they're doing well. everybody has a different story how much better they're doing, one thing about this area that

we're in right now, that affected them as far as protesters go, is that this is outside of the safe zone. so anybody can come through here who does not have a credential. you don't need it. one owner, really, this clothing store right here told us a while ago, so far the protesters haven't affected them just yet. >> from our observations the last couple of days, people are just going about their business. protests are having to happen like they're happening and you can't really get away from it, it's just how everyone reacts to it, and we here in cleveland have been doing a great job. >> busy here, charles. somebody told me their restaurant is up 25%. i had another restaurant owner tell me that his place is up about three times as much, everybody's got their own story, but also everybody keeping an eye on security as well. charles: thanks a lot, blake. looks fun out there. have a good time and stay safe. >> will do. charles: all right.

next, netflix, a site blaming us for the drop? i'll explain next.

>> good afternoon on the new york stock exchange, i'm lori rothman with fox business. stocks are little changed, the dow was on track to snap a winning streak. it's got fifth consecutives--

five, rather, records for the high. and disappointing earnings from netflix let the wind out of the sails today. we had new earnings before the bell. here is look how they're performing. johnson & johnson is up nearly 2%. more on the losses in obamacare. then you've got goldman sachs, the second quarter revenue down 12 1/2% as the investment banking revenue declined. and johnson & johnson raising full year forecast. it's touching a record high for you. let's get you back now to cavuto, coast to coast. ♪

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the world. and i'll start with you, jonathan, you're the capitalist pig, if you will. not that you can explain completely, but what do you make of this? >> well, this is anti-trust, eric-- excuse me, charles and it's completely not only anti-capitalist, it's destructive. look back even to microsoft. microsoft stock has never been as high as it was back in the late 1990's before the government began its anti-trust charade against them. and essentially, charles. it makes every business owner guilty before the fact. where the government can come in and decide whatever price i'm going to charge and whatever company they merge with, government has to sign off on that. it comes from the perverse notion that somehow government can create competition and it's destructive for those of us trying to invest and think long-term. charles: do you think it's something perhaps with obamacare, some sort of intimidation factor that goes along with this. dagen: that's one of the

reasons, charles, these large health insurers are trying to combine with each other. we should point out cigna and anthem's merger with cigna and aetna's deal to combine. if they challenge the mergers, they'll fight it in court is my prediction. a lot of them, they want to combine, they were promised the world, were they not, in terms of the business they were going to get from obamacare. well, if they're offering insurance through the individual market, through these exchanges, the people that they have gotten as customers are very sick and they're very costly, and that has been-- they've got pre-existing conditions and that's put a hurt on their businesses and one of the reasons that they're looking to combine. i want to point out, the obama administration went after the allergan-pfizer deal, charles. they were doing it because our tax rates in this country are so high and they specifically changed the tax rules to shut that merger down because the

obama administration didn't like the way that it looked. so they were doing it to avoid the high taxes here, well, then lower the taxes. again, i think that businesses have a target on their back, whether it's in the insurance business or any business. charles: you know, jonathan, to that point, the deal i was trying to think of was baker hughes and halliburton deal. i understand that the theory of monopolies and anti-monopoly. they weren't stopping, they weren't going to be the biggest company in the world. these companies play on a world stage and i don't know why we would penalize them with trying to compete with their foreign competitors which have the upper hand? >> and for being successful, charles. that's exactly what anti-trust law is, it punishes companies and shareholders for being successful. only government can create a monopoly or obamacare or taxing medallions and the services in

the country we consider to be monopolized. you talked about netflix a moment ago. this is essentially an unregulated part of the company look how much competition between hulu and netflix and others, and government is the problem. charles: we've got to leave it there. >> charles quickly, i just want to say, president obama has laid out the road to a possible public option for obamacare, that's the road to single payer, if you think that government controls health insurance now, you just wait if the democrats stay in office. charles: if you think health care is expensive now, wait until we get singer payer. >> right. charles: thanks a lot. single payer. and donald trump will become the republican nominee when everyone dismissed it. it was this show that was all over it and we're still on it next.

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>> i think we're all americans first and foremost, yes, i am an american and of african descent and more proud of being american. >> your parents were americans, or free americans-- >> colonized free africans. charles: there are going to be people sworn in tomorrow and they get to be a part of this great american dream. donald trump said, i am going to deal with issues that are not pandering after one race, but the human race, security, and jobs. so that we can come together and be united so we all can prosper. charles: right. >> and it fetches me even now how we're so focussed on the adjective that describes us, but reality separates us. charles: concerns over racial

divide after the murder of police officers has become a huge issue all of a sudden overnight. and eboni, i'm sure you had a chance to see both of those things, i'm not sure what the poll is, but it's plunges the lowest in decades. one side says everyone is against them and no hope and the other side is saying, hey, you know what? everyone has an opportunity and have to start by taking advantage of it. >> charles, i want to say thank you to you, to this show and network because it's not a easy conversation to have. a lot of high voltage, thank you for facilitating this. i make this of it though, we need more use of the word "and" and less of the word "or". i think i'm seeing a narrative with your earlier guest, jay morrison, you two were not that far apart on the issue of responsibility. he has a different vantage

point, he's concerned with historical as spent and you made the argument, maybe less concerned with that and more on today. >> and i live in harlem and i see the gentrification. and, but the uptown uptown, there's trash on the streets and why is that the case. for some people they still don't understand the buy-in of the fact you should be respecting part of your community because it took a long time and history is important for some people, charles, it took a long time to due dehumanize a people and take time to empower them. charles: who does empower them? does the person in the mirror empower themselves? or empowered by someone else? . jay kept talking about the

government stepping up and making amends, beyond economic amends, i'm not sure how you do that. because i lived in harlem when it was the worst place in america to live. i was shocked when i moved there because i could not believe, you know, that someone would pee in the elevatorment i could not believe someone would throw their trash out their window. i could not believe that stuff. so, i understand past circumstances, but when does the responsibility, the baton of responsibility end up in the hands of the person themselves. >> you make a good point. it's not a bright line in the sand. these elements have to work together. for instance, for me, i can speak to how i was empowered. my mother, my mother was an instrumental part of letting me know there were certain things in society and media messages and things even in my classroom at that said i couldn't achieve academically because of certain things, she countered that. so that was important for me, some people it's community and some people it's internal to tells them i can do it.

and to the government thing, more than a check. other ways government can be helpful. the smithsonian is opening up the largest african-american museum, and it's important not just to the black community, but we are americans and you pointed that out, that's accurate and we have to feel a part and america has to embrace at that, too. charles: and i just kind of hope we stop living in the past. we should honor the past, but stop living in it and i hope at some point we start to look to the future. >> i think that's true and i think we can do both, thank you, charles. charles: thank you very much. stocks are a tad negative. we've been in a stretch of record after record after record. where do we go from here? are investors smart getting in this market even at this stage? we'll have more after this. with this grade of protection... it's a fortress.

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