we're a little bit closer to neutral but we still want to be fully invested in earning income where we can. liz: guess what, steven? you get to preside over the bulls having down a couple of cans of red bull, hitting another record on wall street. yes, all-time highs for the did you stones industrials and s&p 500. the nasdaq at highs of the year. here is the the the closing bell. [closing bell rings] melissa: we'll hear from intel, american express and ebay how they fared. i'm melissa francis. charles: i'm david asman. business hour on "after the bell" hour, we want to tell you what we have for you this hour. looking ahead to day three of the republican convention kicking off in a matter of hours with big-name speakers including former bitter rival, ted cruz.

is he, ted cruz ready to get fully behind trump? we'll bring you what he said today. protests growing outside of convention center. we're there live. a group threatening to burn an american flag is gathering in cleveland's public square while other groups are trying to stop them. live reports and some big names joining us live from cleveland with their take on all of this, and a lot more. melissa? melissa: first to the markets. where both dow and s&p 500 ending at record highs, the seventh in a row for the dow. led by tech giants, microsoft, cisco and ibm. phil flynn, price futures group, watching all the action in oil from the cme. lori rothman on the floor of the new york stock exchange. lori, talk to me about these big moves in tech? reporter: it's remarkable, right, melissa? you guys said it, a seventh consecutive session where the dow closed at record high. tech drove the positive momentum. this time yesterday we were surprised at that microsoft earnings report, not only

beating the street but showing significant success with its transition into cloud computing. so microsoft really leading tech names higher. of course you have intel which was up 1 1/2%, ahead of its highly anticipated earnings report which i know you guys will cover at this hour as well. let's look at some year-to-date numbers. so impressive. look at s&p, up over 6% year-to-date. nasdaq, best levels of 2016, up about 1.7%. and it's such a busy news cycle right now. one deal perhaps lost in the shuffle here, two brewers will merge getting doj and antitrust approval. world's top two brewers, anheuser-busch and sabmiller got antitrust approval. this is one billion dollar value deal. shares higher on that. back to you. charles: lori, thank you very much. wild day for oil traders as the plies plummeted in morning but made a dramatic comeback. phil, what happened? >> basically saw u.s. oil

inventory report came out. we saw crude oil inventories fell ninth week in a row. that cut year-over-year surplus by over half since the beginning of the year. we're seeing that market start to get a little bit more in balance that brought that market back. we saw a big build in gasoline supplies. that kept a lid on the market as well as the dollar today. we saw u.s. oil production, it actually rose for the second week in a row. most of that increase was in alaska, not in the shale patch. in the shale patch production is still falling. that also lent some support. let's look at gold today, dave. gold got smashed today, on that rising dollar. the dollar index, highest level we've seen since march. part of that was that jon hilsenrath story about the fed, talking about maybe raising interest rates in september. i don't know why the market pleads the fed anymore but they do. that got the dollar soaring, put big pressure on gold because gold traders do not like when

the fed is going to raise rates. that took some of that momentum t was a wild day for oil. interestingly enough, the august eggs per race on oil, dipped below 44. we start in september from this point forward, it is front month. that is over 45. almost like we picked up a dollar a barrel by rolling over into the next contract. charles: for gold, dollar up, gold down. phil, thank you very much. melissa: another record on wall street but despite market highs, doubt among investors. fund managers are holding 5.8% of their portfolios in cash. that is the highest level in nearly 15 years. this is according to bank of america merrill lynch survey. let's bring in today's panel. jonathan hoenig of capitalist pig hedge fund, gary kaltbaum, ka pardon me, both fox news contributors. gary, let me start with you, the market is at records, 15-year high in cash? >> well, here's the deal. you had a major breakout in the

dow and s&p after 18 months of sitting around, that's number one. number two, add in central banks upping the ante, number three, over 11% cash in mutual fund and pension funds. that is the ammo. money managers as the market breaks out and move higher, they have people breathing down their neck, you have too much cash, you have to deploy it, making markets go higher and higher. talk about earnings, earnings are not very good at all. companies have down sales and down earnings but stocks going up. the reason why? lots of cash. melissa: we'll pause for a second. intel out with second quarter results. ashley webster has numbers from the newsroom. what do you have there? >> melissa, earnings per share coming in at 53 -- 59 cents. the estimate was 53 cents. revenue coming in where expected, right around 13.53 billion. the estimate, 13.54. you can call that pretty much hitting estimates but beating on

earnings. this is a company in transition. intel back in april announcing it was going to cut its workforce by some 11%. 12,000 people as it transitions from the declining pc market and chips it provides to that into the cloud. we hear this from so many tech companies. intel says that reorganization, that restructuring if you like, they say solidly on track. they call it the internet of things. and that is basically anything with an on and off switch that can be perhaps used as in the tech world and connected to the internet. that is where intel's future is, whether it's home thermostat can be altered from outside of the home to jet engines, to you name it, to cars. intel sees its products, its chips being a part of that future and it's making that transition and they say they are on their way but as i mentioned part of that transition they will be shedding jobs between now and mid of next year, some 12,000 positions will be eliminated. they announced that last april

but they do say that effort is on track. melissa: ashley, thank you so much. we'll pause with that we have more breaking news. david. charles: they are burning that flag in cleveland in the public square, right in the center. you see police in the middle of the, not quite a melee but you see a mace can out now. there is more pushing an shoving than we've seen for quite some time. emotions are very high. there you see, actually a police officer, on the ground. he is in a white shirt. you can see him. he is either fallen or was pushed to ground. we now have a blackout on those pictures. again what had happened, was that, a group had threatened they were going to burn an american flag. this i believe is video of earlier. just moments ago. yes, and of course a lot of people in the crowd on the opposite crowd wanted to stop it. apparently there was push came to shove. melissa: literally. charles: a police officer fell to the ground. as soon as we get that up again, we will bring that to you.

we did see a mace can in one of the police officer's hand. so at least he was trying -- there you see a protester who brought a flag out of what appeared to be a tin can, melissa, set it aflame, as a result of that action, the pushing and shoving began. somebody grabbed his shirt. somebody actually -- melissa: is that connell mcshane we hear there? connell? okay. charles: all right. we see mace being sprayed around there as well. this is, just moments ago, about three minutes ago, you will see the man in white, who is police officer, fall to the ground as a result of pushing and shoving that took place there. i don't think there was an intentional effort to get a police officer but that is what happened. melissa: okay. let's go back to intel. while we're keeping eye on that situation in cleveland. earnings just out. jonathan, intel right now, trading down, pretty dramatically, down better than

3% at last look, after we saw a beat, as it was on earnings. revenue was a very slight miss. investors not liking it after hours. they had -- they're sort of like pc sales are on the decline. obviously very bad for intel but they feel like they're hitting the bottom perhaps of that cycle. what do you think? >> i think they're not only hitting the bottom but i do think they're crafting the future. ashley webster just a moment ago said how intel, in effect reinventing itself, transforming from this commodity-based chip company to included company which amazon dominates. there is plenty of room for competition. melissa you said the stock is down. only down 2 1/2%. not such a big move especially for a stock that had a great run this year and still trades half of its 1999 -- i don't own intel but i would buy it on this dip. melissa: we'll pause with you guys. stand by for one second. go back to the other story, david. charles: our own connell mcshane is right in the middle of it.

i think with we're looking at is moments ago, if not -- no this is live now. now we see the horses in. the police are on horseback which is the first time we have seen that. so far they have been doing much more means of using bicycles to separate the two crowds. melissa: let's talk with connell. charles: connell mcshane is right in the middle. connell? >> yeah, you know, david, this is the first time we've seen this this is the most intense situation we've seen so far at the republican convention. the horses as you saw, police are moving us back to the sidewalk. now the geography where we are is really, really important here. we are steps away, literally feet away from the entrance to the quicken loans arena, where every night and every day and even now the delegates to the convention are going in just to the right. lori, show where the entrance is. right there, that is the entrance where you go through secret service scanning and make your way into the the arena.

literally, 10, 12 feet from there. these anarchists for lack after better term, came into this area and lit an american flag on fire. it was a few feet from where lori and i were and things got hairy for quite some time. somebody on the ground making arrest that would be one of the first arrests. only seen a handful of arrests with these protests at convention. now the chief of police is here in person. you may see him. yeah, we do. one of the guys looking towards us in the white shirt. he has been -- been very, very involved in this. protest scene. in fact i spoke to him, i would say five minutes before those guys got there. and when he came down, i said to him, i said to the chief, i said, this is planned. we're going to have people in here burning the american flag. i said chief, what are you going to do about that? are you going to make some arrests? here is what he told me. he says, if somebody burns anything, any item, in city of cleveland, they're in violation

of the law. not just about the flag. open burning is a violation of city law. so i said, that being said, do you plan to make arrests? he said, not if we can avoid it, no. however, if someone does something quote, unquote, this was his term, egregious, we'll move in quickly and deal with it. clearly egregious was done and police have now moved in. we can't confirm any arrests. we just know that at least one man is down, he has been handcuffed. police on horseback moving in are setting up, excuse me, a perimeter and just as we saw in the public square, which is few blocks from here yesterday, that's what they do. they set the perimeter up as quickly as possible. previous protests they have been able to do that. using bicycles but this intoot horses had to move in. it looks like relative sense of calm is slowly being restored. but, you know, i can't emphasize enough. not number of protesters.

it's where they're protesting and what they're doing. a planned burning of the american flag as an expression of first amendment rights done right outside of the entrance to the republican national convention, within feet of where delegates were trying to make their way in. where staffers try to make their way in. members of the u.s. senate were trying to make their way in. now the flag has been burned, i think i said that right at the beginning, when you guys came to me, and it was done feet from us. as it went up in flames the guy who was doing it, snapped with his left hand back and flag came flying towards us on fire. that is when things started getting a little bit hairy. people started shoving, and police and his force moved in. they appeared to set up the perimeter. you can probably see, make out lori's monitor. some people that now being held with hands behind their back. some are on their knees. this is not a group, to be clear, that you know, for a political cause, like anti-donald trump or anything like.

this is anti-everything. this is anarchist group, if you read what they put out, so out there, you name it they're against it. melissa: what you were describing, can i ask you there, does it feel like things are under control now? does it feel like law enforcement has control of that area? reporter: yes, it does. that happened while you were watching it live. i have got to say, this police force, cleveland local with help of outside police force, from indiana, that shot, if you're taking this shot, that is indiana state trooper. they're helping out with local cleveland police force. we've seen highway patrolman from california helping out t does feel safe and more secure, for a time, two or three minutes, felt anything but. woman with multicolored hair and being moved out and taken. there is a van on the outskirts, david and melissa, where we are, half a block.

from listening to police scanner traffic before we came down here, they asked as they described it an arrest van be brought in. so it was ready if they needed to make arrests. they wanted to avoid making arrests. i don't think they're going to be able to do that because you had, it was a big crowd of reporters and on lookers and even convention attendees on hand, burning of the american flag. it was dangerous for a while. charles: we see a couple of people in handcuffs. those are definitely arrests there. there were at least two arrests. the woman with the different-colored hair and this guy with his back exposed to us. that is considering the crowds, how big, always difficult to tell with the camera focused on one group, how big the whole demonstration is. can you estimate how many people are there, connell? reporter: it is not big, david. it is not big at all. it's a small crowd of demonstrators. i would say couple dozen people part of this group. they are wearing black t-shirts and match group whatever it is they're trying to support.

as i said they're against everything. and they started to burn the flag -- charles: connell? >> all those people on the other side are other on lookers, media, or people trying to make their way into the convention. charles: i see. reporter: where lori is showing you now on camera where arrests are being made. just past that, top of the screen, that is coming up fourth street, which leads directly down into an area you can't drive, it is closed. if you were walking, say, david, you were attendee or delegate to the convention you would walk straight towards where lori's camera shot is, today, as a matter of fact, 15, 20 minutes ago. would you be able to walk straight into the path we're showing you. that is the quicken loans arena and where the secret service lets you in. a lot of people may be waiting to get inside. a lot are curiosity seekers. a lot of people protesting are small. maybe a dozen people. charles: i counted four individuals at least who have handcuffs on. would i assume you could call those arrests. we'll have to wait and see if

they're charged with anything. melissa: they are taken into custody. charles: it is an arrest. the question whether they are charged. connell mcshane, great stuff, connell. nobody else had it. thank you very much for that update. stay with us. if connell has anymore action to report on. we'll report it to you. those protests outside of day three of the republican convention, kicking off with big-name speakers including former trump rivals marco rubio and ted cruz. we have a full host of reporters and analysts on the scene, including steve hayes, joe trippi, fred barnes, katie pavlich, all here to give us their take on the convention so far and what we can expect tonight. melissa: pastor paula white, donald trump spirit all advisor playing a big role behind the scenes. she will joins us as well. charles: did you see this? donald trump making another grand entrance. nobody does entrances -- melissa: did a couple laps. charles: officially landing in cleveland. of course he was there a couple days ago. this is the official landing. his first public event with

running mate mike pence coming up.

charles: american press and ebay reporting first quarter results. let's go to lore. reporter: key things with american express the company saying in 2016 this year their earnings and revenue come in the high-end of previously stated forecasts. increasing quarterly dividend to 32 cents a share. repurchasing more than $3 billion of owe own stock.

axp, up 74%. that is tremendous. move on to ebay. great report, up 6%. tech knocking it out of the park. basically talking about operating margins were way improved. doing a lot of stock repurchases. enhancing shareholder value. stubhub, ebay, bought stuff hub. business is buying concert tickets and events tickets. revenue up 40% to $225 million. so that is good stuff. here is another stat. ebay crossedded 1 billionth live listing mark in the quarter. all good things for you from here. david: a lot of stock buybacks though. funny way of dealing with numbers there. by the way we're going to have a lot more reporting from cleveland, our own connell mcshane is right in the middle of the action. he was only one bringing that action to you in the first 15 minutes of this hour. we'll go back to connell in a moment.ght.

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melissa: protests growing outside of the rnc. connell mcshane standing by in the thick of all of this with the scene, at the taken with the latest. connell, what's going on now? reporter: well the police are moving us back and away from quicken loans arena, telling us shifting that way to try to move us down prospect here, corner of fourth and prospect in downtown cleveland where moments ago, you watched it live, there were a group of anarchists protesters started burning the american flag, just feet from where delegates and others enter the quicken loans arena to go into the republican national convention. as ha happened, police moved in quickly. they were on horseback and got as aggressive as they needed to be. they got the situation under control. they're trying to continue to

get the situation under control. the latest manuever to push us back down prospect which is exactly what we're doing. behind me, maybe the yellow signs can be made out, those are two is left of the protest group. last time i was on with you guys, david and melissa, i said there were dozen, few more protesters. there are handful left, five, six, seven, tough to make out, that haven't been arrested. others are detained. we don't know in terms of formal arrests and charges. we'll get that from chief williams. he has been active and forthcoming. we'll talk to him after this. the police, you can see the bicycles. this speaks to policing of this convention and way it has been done last few days. bicycles have been a big part of it. speaking to some local police officials bicycles can be used like a shield would be when police use riot gear. they're reluctant to use riot gear. the chief was talking to me a few minutes ago before the burning of american flag

started, they want to be cooperative with the community and allow them to express first amendment rights. i have an surprised how use you'll if the bicycles have been. they set up perimeters, hold wheel to wheel. they hold the bicycle while another one holds other. they almost use it like shield, like traditional riot gear. we're moving back here to the perimeter being created. as you toss back to you nice, i show you the other side, lori, over the right shoulder. that is where the protests are going. that is what is left of them. they're having signs, moving the other way, we have to get to the side. horses are coming after us, lori. we better move over here. melissa: good thinking. reporter: they're being moved out of the area, a far more calm scene in downtown cleveland outside quicken loans arena than ten minutes ago. we'll see where the people go. we'll keep eye on them. melissa: the horsemen really doing a good job, keeping things under control.

listen to what they say, connell. stay safe. i can see them moving you. connell, thank you. david. david: let's bring in democratic campaign consultant joe trippi. he is fox news contributor. he is at the rnc right now in cleveland. joe, i got to say, nothing plays into the hands of republican theme, sort of law and order theme they have established, at least established first night on the convention when you see a flag burning on the street and arrests. then we just got news today michael brown's mother is going to appear at the dnc, bringing up the whole image of ferguson once again? i just think that to a certain extent donald trump is wing the law law and order argument, right now, wouldn't you say? >> well he is going to make that argument. of course the demonstrations and burning the flag does help him, particularly with his supporters and even with some undecideds out there. i don't think it is helpful, but hey, it's, it's democracy and

way things work at these conventions. david: it is to a certain extent. yeah, it is to a certain extent. if demonstrators break the laws it goes beyond order and apparently couple did. there were arrests there. the idea of bringing michael brown's mother in to speak to resurrect the whole idea of ferguson and "black lives matter" and of course a lot of the misstatements that have been made by the "black lives matter" piece, people, about michael brown, hands up in the air which never happened, et cetera, is that a wise move on the part of the dny? dnc? >> look i think the case -- look, one of the things going on here, you can believe both things. david: well you can't. hold on a second you can't believe michael brown raised his hands because a thorough federal report dismissed that charge and other charges that are still used by michael brown's parents and other people? >> right. but you can believe that black lives mat "black lives matter"

and "blue lives matter." they're not mutually exclusive. i will not get into any particular case. we'll see what happens in till definitely with michael brown's mother but i think that is why you have these conventions. each campaign makes the case, each party makes the case. we go to vote in november. and you're right, arrests don't help to make your case when people are arrested. david: does remind us of the situation back in 1968. of course nowhere near, hasn't gotten that violent as it did in '68. >> right. david: but there is a danger that it might. >> no, i don't see that. i agree with you it's, you know there is echoes of '68 but nowhere near the kind of violence throughout the country. david: not yet. >> and through a lot of cities. i don't think it will happen. certainly all of us hope not. david: let us hope not. that was awfulul situation.

but it led to the election of richard nixon. how much, how much, power do you think donald trump will, political power will he get out of focusing on law and order though in this election? >> i don't think anywhere near what nixon got out of it in 1968. we're a far different country than 1968 not just in terms of race relations but also just in terms of the diversity of the nation and in a lot of ways, i do think we've come a long, long way. we got a long way to go but pretty far in terms of race relations and, we have -- david: the question is whether we've, the question is whether we have fallen back in the past six years. there is a lot of evidence to point that out. joe trippi, we really thank you for joining us at this moment. thanks a lot. >> good to be with you, dave. melissa: fireworks outside of the convention and there may be some inside as well. night three of the republican convention.

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david: they were at it again trying to burn another flag. connell mcshane standing by in the thick of things.

this is moments ago. connell, explain what happened. reporter: we're about a city block from the quicken loans arena, the group of protesters left after being pushed away by the police, we could see them together, could tell something else was going on. there was another flag on the ground, small flame was seen, this time fire and police officials moved in quickly. lori has it surrounded. i'm a few steps behind her and not seeing into the scrub as clearly as you guys are. there are a few points that can be made here that are important. number one, the first amendment rights of these protesters, agree or disagree with what they are doing are what they are and people might be watching saying, well, they're burning of the american flag as horrible, here, lori, as much as you may think that is horrible thing to do, protected under the first amendment. a guy with a megaphone saying that over and over. here is the key point n the city of cleveland, i was told this personally by chief of police, calvin williams, half an hour

ago, burning in public of any object is illegal. it is not about the flag. it is about the burning. so when you burn an object in public you are in violation of local cleveland city law, according to the local chief of police here. what he had hoped to do was get through that, even with the violation of the law allow it to happen if there wasn't anything violent or dangerous or as he put it egregious. they couldn't do that. there were too many people in too small of an area. as soon as flag was lit on fire, pushing and shoving started. it got rougher. we were pushed back off the sidewalk and authorities moved in. the state troopers are there. they're in the mix. before they stayed to the outside. i don't even know if those are cleveland guys. some guys with the darker uniforms certainly on horseback are. the other police officers are coming in from all over the country, jurisdictions from all over. those are georgia state police? okay, georgia state police are anyone middle of this. cleveland city police for most part are on horseback.

the chanting continues. they want a revolution. want to oh throw the government. this is anarchist type speech, speech protected under first amendment. action, burning an object, in this case the burning american flag. they didn't want them doing this time. david: connell mcshane. good reporting. great reporting, thank you very much. melissa. melissa: bring in the panel. fred barnes, "weekly standard" executive editor, katie pavlich, fox news contributor. they're both in cleveland. katy, let me start with you. what do you think of the protest going on outside? >> this is police chief, sheriff's departments and national guard have been preparing for for weeks. walking around there is very secure perimeter. there is a lot of police activity. there have been 10 arrests so far with the protests we've seen this afternoon and police in riot gear are rushing to the scene to make sure delegates get into the convention tonight. of course mike pence is speaking

along with a number of other very high-profile speakers. melissa: fred, does it feel like normal convention, normal he protests going on outside or does it reflect the mood in the country in your opinion where we've seen this heightened agitation? >> you know, at a normal convention you would have a lot more protesters actually. here, they have, the police, there are police from south carolina and all over the country have come to help the cleveland police. it is, strategy usually used in war, that is to meet the folks you don't like with overwhelming force. melissa: yeah. >> there are three or four times as many police as there are protest years that is interesting perspective. katie, let me move inside of the arena what you're looking for tonight. there are a lot of questions, a lot of unknowns. let's start with ted cruz what do you think he is going to say? that is a wildcard. >> nobody is sure what ted cruz will have to say. let's not forget ted cruz had cozy history with donald trump

before things got nasty between the two of them right before he dropped out. i think tonight he will avoid much like paul ryan did discussing donald trump. we have the report from "national review" saying he will not endorse donald trump to night. endorse him in the future. but ted cruz is very clear, moving forward, even though he is not the nominee he wants to have a hand in the conservative movement, moving forward, and he has, he already has people on the ground putting that message to the people, letting them know he is not going away. so he will probably be projecting his vision for the future. not just republican party but the movement as a whole. melissa: so, fred, what does that achieve? if he comes out and gives a speech but sort of arms distance from trump, what does that achieve? >> it achieves that he alienates trump. trump people, including trump himself are intensely interested what cruz does. trump talked to cruz yesterday.

paul manifort has been asking for, speech text and so on. i think cruz, cruz said today to his delegates he wished he never dropped out of the race, for heaven's sakes. and, it sounds like he is going to give a speech, that would be as if he were the nominee. i think that is a mistake. melissa: very interesting. that is a big risk to put him out there like that. in some ways it is generous, giving him the stage even though he is not showing any interest in endorsing trump who already has the nomination. anyway, we have got to go. we'll watch tonight. thanks for taking time out to come to our cameras. we appreciate it. thanks to both of you. david: great discussion. the bitterness just won't stop, you know? donald trump's spirit all advisor, she is not bitter, she is playing a big role in the 2016 presidential election. we'll talk to pastor paula white. this is the woman who is credited to leading donald trump on his journey to faith. that is coming next. >> that you would inspire us to

do what's right. that would you empower us to be brave. that you would give us faith that believes things can and things will change. help us, oh god.

>> this is a nation where every coin in our pickket and every bill in our wallet says in god we trust. so are we willing to elect someone as president who has as their role model somebody who acknowledges lucifer? think about that. david: ben carson enraging critics bringing up his her role model, saul alinsky, who. let's ask a woman who acts as spirit all advisor to donald trump, pastor paul are

white senior pastor of new destiny christian center. thanks for coming in. what do you think of ben carson said? did he go over a line? >> it is so good to be with you. can you tell me again. i did not hear what you had to say? david: that's quite all right. we repeated the part of ben carson's speech where he mentioned the fact we say in god we trust so much of what we do here when in fact hillary clinton's expressed or at least one of her mentors expressed admiration for lou sypher of the was that statement by ben carson a little over the spirit all line? >> i was not there for dr. ben carson. i do believe, to say in god we trust is absolutely correct statement. i want there to hear the full statement what ben carson said nor the context. i do know doctor carson's

character. i know he is a wonderful man. i know he is a godly man. and i don't know exact context that he said it in. so to answer direct, was that over the line? david: let's focus on donald trump. set focus of this week and his religious role models if you will. >> he is. david: first of all, how did you two meet? >> 14 years ago i received a phone call from him where he was watching christian television and called me up, repeated sermons back to me. said you're fantastic. are you ever in new york? i said i am. i'm doing a bible study for the yankees. a friendship began to develop. one thing led to another became very close relationship with both mr. trump and his family. david: now he has made certain changes in his opinions on things that, very much concern evangelicals like abortion, for example. he is now, he is now pro-life, from his previous position. do you know how that change came about? were you a part of it? >> well i can tell you this,

mr. trump has given a wonderful op-ed being pro-life, he talked very openly about changes in his life, about personal experiences. i have heard him share those personal experiences and i can tell, 100% he is pro-life. i can share with you the areas just like he did, of the things so important to us and his stance on those issues. so, again, mr. trump has made himself very clear on where he is positioned with pro-life and to us -- the important issues to some of us, not just in the evangelical community. david: pastor, the final question has to deal with you and your husband. your house is one of the musicians for journey, that great rock band. he actually, as i understand it, helped to write, don't stop believing, the song for hillary clinton. he is planning on writing something for donald trump? >> he wrote don't stop believing

with steve perry and based out of his father and own story, struggled with music. part of that struggle for 10 years, he was going to give up. his father said, no, son, don't stop believing. so he doodles it down in a journal. he goes, get as phone call after interview, gets on with the babies. they're opening up for journey and one thing leads to another. it is permission for people to dream again, to believe again. so i say to all people, keep on believing. don't stop believing. david: maybe donald trump will use the same theme song. we'll wait and see. paula white. appreciate you coming on. >> you too. melissa: protests escalating outside of the republican national convention. we'll bring you live update from cleveland. that's coming next. my business was built with passion... but i keep it growing by making every dollar count.

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melissa: multiple american flags burned by protesters. we live in the middle of this pressure cooker that cleveland police are trying to keep from bursting. what does it look like now? >> they are doing so effectively. this is what it looks like to police and the situation in a situation like this. about 20 minutes ago or so this scene that you're looking at now that looks very calm the crowd and how they moved out was anything but. we were right in the middle of it. just feet away from where delegates and other attendees go in me start to burn those flags. the police moved back. and now they are doing

establishing a perimeter. the man here is calvin williams. i don't thing we want to walk up with him. can you tell us very quickly what you are doing here. >> our guys are going to their normal patrols. fourth street right up here sort of the street sign. up to the left that will be handing over. that is the main area looks like new orleans bars and restaurants outside. amount is where people often move in directly into the rnc. what they're doing now they are establishing the original perimeter so for a moment they need to get everybody out. they did so effectively.

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melissa: donald trump have a pretty big offer for john kasich. the campaign offered to make him the most powerful vice president in history. here are this pacific's if he accepted he would be in charge of domestic and foreign policy if that's what what trump would be in charge of. but you can imagine the

skepticism and let him take that. i will be in charge of making the show great. risk and reward starts right now. >> for my father impossible is just the starting point. donald trump. >> what he say that we unify this party what you say that we unify this party at the crucial moment when unity is everything. let's take the fight to our opponents with better ideas. let's stay there. >> every bill in our pocket says in god we trust. so are we willing to elect someone as president who has