pollsters are not doing thing right and people are hiding. lou: thanks for joining us. please join us tomorrow. thanks for being with us. tonight from new york. kennedy: tonight purple state pandemonium. new polls suggest big key state could be teetering toward hillary clinton. is that the story? but trump may have a new trump card. the clinton foundation. kt mcfarland have are information on how bill and hillary allegedly worked the system. dpary johnson says this could push the libertarian party to the maintain. each day there is another layer added to the clinton foundation case. there is a new associated press report detailing the overlap

betwn the foundation and the state department as the press agency found over half the people from private interest that met with the secretary during or type as secretary of state had co-fate $157 million d had donated $157 million. donald trump is expressing what a lot of people are wondering. >> it is impossible to figure out where the clinton foundation ends and the state department begins. kennedy: that's what the amount p. tried to do. the line between them is messier than a jackson pollock painting. clinton sends out or hound to denounce trump. >> donald trump and is connected

to all kind of foreign companies. he's indebted or reliant or income on a number of entities and nobody is asking him to disclose or divest. kennedy: yeah, they are. and hillary has ties to goldman sachs. donald trump has a lot of deficits and detractors, but on saying at least she is not trump is a horrible justification. >> what does trump say about china. >> give me china. we lose to china. kennedy: in full desperation mode, bill and hillary are scrambling to shift perception. because if she is elected bill

promises to step away from the trough and stop fundraising. but if the foundation is so great and people-die without it -- >> there are going to be people that will die because of this. kennedy: why what bill ever want to stop doing such benevolent, charitable work. since his travel expenses are coughed, he could milk his final years of skirt chasing under the guise of charity. they are whirling in circles trying to fill the coffers and silos. the foundation will be meansless when she take the oath because she will have reached the zenith and marie antoinette will let them eat her corrupt cake.

let me cut you a piece. i'm kennedy. the associated press says more than half of the people outside the government who gave money to the clinton foundation met with hillary. what does my sterling panel think. dagen mcdowell, charles cook and rick unger. welcome, everybody. rick, i'll start with you. robbie look, the king just fire says it is unfair to look to her calendar and cherry pick certain people that she has been meeting with. it's constant deflection, justification and calling trump a demagogue.

why not take a little personal responsibility. >> you will hate this coming from me. but you are right. i listened to his explanation today, it was preposterous. we know what those meetings are as a matter of course with dignitaries as secretary of state. i looked at the calendar. over half of the meetings that she took from outsiders were arranged by the clinton foundation. my con wipe out the clinton foundation, they do good work. what they were doing to set up these meetings and what this interplay was is not acceptable and not the deal made with the obama administration, no chinese wall, not okay. kennedy: you are absolutely right. it takes people from your side, from your party to stand up if she is going to save face in all this. luckily she is running against donald trump.

but i guess the excuse that yes, she may have met with a few clinton foundation don'tors. but she d donors. that's like me saying i have driven by car 17,000 times. but i only hit 300 pedestrians. >> if you listen to hillary clinton talk about citizens united, she says even the appearance of impropriety can damage a democracy. it doesn't matter if it was one or five. about a year ago i said hillary clinton was the favorite. she would be the most likely candidate to win this year, that's when i thought the republicans would choose someone good. i overestimated how strong she is as a candidate. she is incredibly weak. she is inundated with scandal.

unfortunately the republicans aren't going to do much better than she is. if they thanked anyone decent she would be in trouble. >> when bill was cheating on her in the white house with an intern, she could play the victim. she could bring sympathy and it did work for her. but this a.p. investigation is not in a vacuum. this is one thing after another after another. whether it's the email server. she jokes by the. but then it's the foundation and the emails that came out because of judicial watch. we found out finally there was that first interaction, the that link between a clinton foundation and her. and getting in fronts her it wasn't just people at the foundation and the state department. i don't know where it ends.

but i don't know how much more the american people can take, someone who put herself and her husband above the service of this nation. >> i think it's fascinating. donald trump in his incredible fashion is finding. >> way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. he says the clinton foundation is a huge criminal enterprise. there are people out there who haven't made up their mind, and they are listening to this story and they are as upset always we are about the impropriety. but they don't believe it's a vast criminal end prize. kennedy: that maybe an overexaggeration, but she needs his missteps. that's not one of his big blunders. >> it's a pretty big one. >> i think there are a lot of people he's speaking to who feel they have brokement law in so many ways.

there is much to be revealed. >> they choose themselves and their own purse and their own power over the american people time and again. donald trump softening his hard line position on deporting 11 million illegal immigrants. >> there certainly can be a softening because we are not looking to hurt people. we have some great people in this country. we have some great, great people in this country. but we are going to follow the laws of this country. what people don't realize. we have very, very strong laws. kennedy: has trump pulled an about-face to endorse amnesty. maybe not, because he said this today. >> hillary clinton wants to have a totally open border where people can just pour in and take your jobs and lots of other things happen.

we'll enforce our laws and remove people who overstay their visas. dismantle the gangs and cartels and protect jobs and benefits for hard-working american citizens. the. kennedy: what is he saying. >> he's going to be a hard-ass and isolationist. we might tax the rich a little more, no, we are not going to tax the rich. wait has aloud his fans to do is pick the one you like. it's choose your own adventure. i don't think donald trump has strong views on immigration. he came down that escalator a year ago and he realized that was the part of his speech that got the most attention. he says if the crowd goes quiet he will mention the wall.

what i would say is when he is -- if he is in any position to do anything about immigration, i think he will pull his pun. s. he doesn't have the desire, he doesn't want to spends the political capital it would take. kennedy: he says we have strong immigration laws. i disagree with that. i think our laws need to be restructures in this country and neither party is ready to do that. the democrats would have tackled immigration instead of obamacare if anyone was serious about that. >> ther president bush had a cohesive plan on how to deal with illegal immigrants. president obama had record annual deportations. half the people being deported were criminals. it was in his second term he backed off that. >> everything you guys are

saying is accurate. i'm agreeing with charles. there is something in the water. trump finally figured out he's painted himself into a corner. here he is with his number one issue. he's finally listen to to people who say this is how it works. you have got to get closer to the center. kennedy: he has zero support from hispanics and blacks. people find the idea of deportations repugnant. it's a political and economic loser. kennedy: gary johnson says libertarians are about to have their big moment. i'll tell what you the give is counts on to make it into the debates.

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kennedy: libertarian candidate gary johnson says donald trump's lack of popularity will be a boost for the libertarians. he says this is the demise of the republican party.

similarly green party candidate jill stein is warning republicans defecting to the democratic party are pulling the party to the right. do they have a shot? the party panel is back. jill stein says the commission on presidential debate is illegitimate, and i think she is right. i think this is a questionable organization with very arbitrary criteria. >> i think it's sleazy they set up a couple debates against football games. i think that's intentional. but jill stein has no shot. jill stein doesn't even understand -- i wouldn't participate in an interview with her. to have a federal reserve board which gets on my nerves.

zero personal responsibility with of any her ideas. but gary johnson, is he still smoking something? kennedy: he's given up the reefer. you know where conservatives and libertarians meet. has he found the sweet spot? >> he's more interested in going after hillary's vote which is an interesting choice. kennedy: when the two are even produced into the race, she goes down. it was the moment for libertarians, but i don't think it republican party is dead. if you look at the commission which i don't think should exist. i think the networks can do it. they set up the criteria.

jill stein has a point. they set up the criteria so you have to reach a certain threshold within the poll, then they use a poll that doesn't include jill stein. that's not fair. kennedy: she is a woman running for president, last word. >> the lib tear yab party, there are other third parties that have more people than the libertarians. kennedy: like who? >> oddly enough the new whigs have more people. kennedy: who is their candidate? >> they have one but i haven't heard of them. kennedy: there are more hib

tearians than -- there are more libertarians on the ballot than before. kennedy: bush and clinton both thought ross perot was going to hurt the other. in the end he hurt george herbert walker bush. maybe sure you watch gary johnson and his running mate bill weld on a stossel special. a libertarian town hall right here on fbn. dr. ben carson calling for the elderly hillary clinton and donald trump to release their medical records, and he's not alone.

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kennedy: in 2012 mitt romney took on one battleground state, missouri. handing the margin. the real clear politic and of of national polls shows clinton is well ahead in all of the crucial battleground states and even republican missouri is shifting purple. should republicans brace for a landslide defeat? i believe they should. >> who are you? you are a person of real value

and i don't want to hear you talk like that. kennedy: i'm chiefing to your expertise. for a woman who is having a bad week, this is great news, isn't it? >> the nature of this race has not changed. it's been consistent since may when donald trump clinched the nomination. he has been behind. people who want donald trump to win like loo to look at unreliable polls that show the race close as even curbment. but the reality is he has been behind the whole time. the reason it's hooking worse in these state is there is more polling. they weren't polling before because the election is too far away. kennedy: let's hook at a couple traditional republican state.

north carolina and missouri, what surprises you most? >> north carolina i a state barack obama won in 2008. i'm somewhat surprised. missouri, people forget was very close in 2008 for john mccain. the math i would look at if i was trying to find the fault lines is that 2008 map. john mccain won missouri by less than a point. and i think missouri will be very competitive. we look at arizona. that's a possibility. utah because of evan mcmullin and hard line mormon fans against trump. georgia, conceivably south carolina but probably not. kennedy: how much of this shift in the map and the grim electoral picture for donald trump. how much of this is anover reliance on twitter and under

reliance on infrastructure or is it just natural demographic shifting? >> i think it's that donald trump has not closed a deal. in the parlance of his real estate business, he has not closed the deal with american voters. the very fact that hillary clinton is as disliked as she is and continue to the outperform him is testament to the fact people don't know what to make of him, and many of those who do don't like him. early voting starts next month. we are getting close. he's got to find a way to reset this race so people take another look. kennedy: he wrote the art of the deal. it's been an impressive sealing of the deal. let me ask you this. this takes some psychic forecasting. could anything change this? could there be another troll

from wikileaks that changes the election in his fave? >> we are in a scary phase where stolen emails could be news. that means fake emails could be news. if you are hillary clinton you are worried about the stuff you said and the stuff you didn't say that people in russia can plop on to people's front pages in the united states. so there is a ton stuff that can happen to her. and there are external events and donald rumsfeld read to as unknown unknowns. what if there is an attack against the united states. what if there is a financial crisis. what if aliens visit. if you are trump you have got to try new things. he has remade his immigration policy. but at the same time you have got to just stay in the race enough so if the conditions change you are still a plausible

alternative. kennedy: bernie sanders is still waiting for the indictment. chris stirewalt thank you so much. always a pleasure. coming up, would you recognize mike pence if you met him on the street? apparently not everyone does. is it possible for these nimble climbers to scale a ladder to the moon. of course, not. that would be absurd. "topical storm" is next. ♪ [announcer] is it a force of nature? or a sales event?

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kennedy: when you are at 30,000 feet and you see a gremlin on the wing, turn to me. this is the "topical storm." topic number one. vice presidential candidate mike pence visited norristown,

pennsylvania where a local barber gave him a haircut. the barber didn't recognize him any more. >> what your name? >> mike pence. i'm the governor of the state of indiana, and running for vice president of the united states. vice president? >> yes, sir. i'm running with donald trump. i'm his running mate. kennedy: he was fine when you said vice president. now, sure, maybe mike pence is generic looking and he looks like walking stock footage of an accountant or the dad you take out of the picture grape you have just bought. but that is no excuse for being unable to recognize a vice presidential candidate. he's a seasoned statesman. i remember the impression he

made at the white house gala when he came to the aid of barbara bush. topic number two. if you're knowledge of scotland, next time you are in edinburgh, it's home to sir nils who has been knighted by the norwegian king. that's nils there reviewing our troops. this week he was promoted to brigadier. that means he outrains actual colonels in the norwegian armies, including colonel sanders.

the scots sometimes used animals to fight the english. >> i am william wallace. >> what has he done with his hair? >> i like talking chimps. topic number three. as summer slowly fades it takes with it the cool confections of ice cream bars and pop sick manies. watch this footage of frozen treats satisfyingly melt. yummy piles of goo and vanilla, and some sort of red thing with more vanilla in the middle. succulent frozen egg looking thing. the yoke is the last to go. it's really melty bits.

like those frozen chocolate turds. wait for it. the ice cube. these are my favorites because they look like jellyfish being eaten by sands. i bet this is a popular video in a waiting look in a nevada dispensary. i have never been there. i have been to nevada. i now have a craving for magic shell. topic 4. a couple of russian daredevils took a break from hacking american networks. they were just daredevilling. a little high drama. they set off on the adventure of a lifetime. what could have been a messy cleanup. climbing the world's tallest construction site in china.

this will one day become the highest building in the world when it's done in 2018. without ropes they moseyed up 2,000 feet with only their love and insanity keeping them from certain death. for them, it's latitudinal viagra. the couple cannot get turned on unless they know there is a high probability they will be killed. topic number five. don't just head it when you are going about your day, then all of a sudden a hook grabs you in your mouth and tries to pull you away? so does this guy. >> hold on, hold on!

kennedy: he ain't happy about it. a 10-foot long shark off the coast of san diego. the fly-fishing gang who caught him says they do not keep their freeze catches for wall mounts. when catch and release in the hopes of meeting again in the cool, fresh waters off san diego. >> oh, my gosh. the shark recognized us. if you have weird stories you want to see in the "topical storm," tweet me @kennedynation and use trash tag "topical storm." are you losing friends because of this crazy election? there is a chance facebook has something to do with it.

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kennedy: today on "morning joe" dr. ben carson comments on the ongoing debate over hillary clinton's health. by said hillary isn't the only candidate who should fork over the medical records. he called them both elderly. >> shop is running for president of the united states, particularly if they are elderly, and that would include both major candidates, should disclose their medical history. and i'm not talking about from a year ago or two years ago. i'm talking about currently. kennedy: clinton's campaign released a statement from her internist attesting to her health. and donald trump's doctor said

he would be the healthiest person ever elected to the presidency. is carson right? >> i don't generally like this tendency toward medicalizing elections toward this conjecture that you have seen. katrina pierson was diagnosing hillary clinton using webmd. kennedy: it would be nice. we had medical doctors who look over the medical records in detail and give us a fuller account. >> i do think that a general focus on age is fine as long as it's generally noting that older people are more likely to die than younger people. pretty obvious. but i think dr. carson needs to

be a little careful. when you are a doctor, things you say on medical subjects, he's sit frpght sidelines and he has a vested interest. kennedy: if doctors are fallible just as lawyers are, and they can be come pro mietsed. when they are in proximity to power -- we need some sort of independent medical examination of record or the patient. i think they should throw in a sight test. >> sight tests would be -- psych tests would be difficult because of how you interpret it. i don't have a problem with both of these people releasing their. i cannot look at her life and decide. >> that letter from her doctor was from last year. it wasn't a current -- i love

dr. carson. this is a moment of honesty. they both qualify for full social security benefits. so call them elderly. even though he's in trump's camp, he still threw both of them into the fire. >> even in this case there is not a single american who says i'm not going to vote for this candidate because he or she dies. you would be more likely to vote for them if they were. kennedy: but then you would be left with tim kaine or mike pence. americans have generated 4 billion posts liked and shared with users able to lock friends they disagree with. is facebook helping to polarize america?

i don't think we need facebook for that. here is a warning. if anybody who i'm friends with on facebook starts posting stuff about politics, i will tell you what i think of your kids photos. you know what? your kids aren't that cute. those little outfits you have been buying for them? not attractive. and your kids aren't cute. kennedy: can this election ruin marriages and friendships? >> if you are going to unfriend somebody because you disagree politically, get a life. kennedy: you on have conservative friends. kennedy: when anybody posted anything about politics -- >> i have friend who work in technology. the stuff people say about donald trump is so crazy.

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but no such law forbids donors from giving to an associated charity. let's ask kt mcfarland what this means. as this whole story unfolds and various news organizations connect the dots. the "new york times" to the a.p., we are seeing so much crossover between the clinton foundation and hillary clinton's time as secretary of state and it's pretty alarming. >> it's not just a co-understand den that it just happened that way, it was just an accident. or others who would excuse them. it's like the end justifies the means. i look at it. we have good results and regulations against foreign money going into american political campaigns because we don't want to influence american national security to go to the highest bidder. the clinton foundation said it's a problem, but it isn't our problem.

the second thing they said is if she becomes president we'll shut it down. we'll take the clinton family off. kennedy: fit' a charity, and you are doing such great work and as james carville said, people are going to die if they shut this foundation down, then why on earth would you shut it down just because she is president? >> maybe what they are saying is get your bid in now. if it was really an above-board thing they should take the children tons off of it and turn it over to the american red cross. because the confluence of money going in one hand and decisions and access and access going out the other is a dangerous precedent. kennedy: it's a limited amount of time before she is conceivably elected. it's a free-for-all.

it's a summer dance to get the million dollar donations in and the clintons know they bought fave and they will get access to the president of the united states. >> before secretary clinton became secretary of state, she was senator from new york. she left the white house as first lady and went to the senate and that's when they set up the foundation. before she became secretary of state they set this private server up. what was she going to hide? she knew it would cause problems down the road. i think it was a scam from the beginning to have a private email server so what was going on between the clinton foundation and the state department would never be seen by prying eyes. kennedy: the a.p., when they look at the private meetings the

secretary had the first two years, they looked at all of the private individual who came and met with her and they did cross remembering. people are say -- they did cross referencing. they are saying they have a den debta against her and it's politically convenient for them do it a few months before the election. but they put the request in three years ago for those calendars. they were shut down. they had to sue the state department in order to get access to it. >> at end of the day, i look at this and say where is the moral outrange? can we look at this and say it's okay? they were doing good deeds so we won't have any problem here. to me, we didn't pay ransom for those whose ands. i gave you all the emails, oh it wasn't a pay to play scheme. the and american says i see what

i see and it look like all those things are lies. kennedy: they know if they have that kind of money and they give it to the foundation, they would have had face time with secretary clinton. and most people no she is not fighting for us. rich people are smog their money over to her, foreign governments, and they are giving her the ultimate gift which is access to power. >> people who sat on the board of a russian company donated to the clinton foundation good when they went to get u.s. uranium into russian hands, she was the last to sign off on it. so that is security. kennedy: lord knows what happened. >> it's get to be with you. thank you. kennedy: coming up. gold medalist simone biels may

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kennedy: for as much of the bad rap rio got before the olympics, the games have done wonders for future athletes. with an astonishing 121 medals carted home for the u.s.a. it was a handful of jocks that did the most to inspire america's athletes. simone biems was too young to compete in london. simone has totally reshaped the sport. and there have been and will continue to be an explosion in gymnastics. some gyms are reporting record-break attendance.

biles is the kind of athlete whov can have a profound effect. my girls are gymnasts, and they sat transfixed and bleary eyed beaming at biles. and i have to say my heart gushed when i was walking with my 7-year-old death daughter th- 7-year-old daughter and she looked up and said am i too young to do track? a lot has been said about making america great again this election. and there noise greater example of dominance and determination than the display from our olympic athletes. simone biles, katie ledecky, the state of our athletic union is great. tomorrow i'll have john stossel.

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